Rove reaches out to Lieberman: ‘The boss wants to help.’
By on Aug 9th, 2006 at 12:59 pm
Rove reaches out to Lieberman: ‘The boss wants to help.’
ABC’s George Stephanopoulos reports, “According to a close Lieberman adviser, the President’s political guru, Karl Rove, has reached out to the Lieberman camp with a message straight from the Oval Office: ‘The boss wants to help. Whatever we can do, we will do.’”
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No suprise, if Lieberman can pull part of the vote as an independant, the republicans could win the seat in conneticut.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:05 pmno use crying over old disgusting stinky rotten milk
August 9th, 2006 at 1:06 pmIf this is confirmed, this would mean they are dumping their own candidate and adopting Lieberman. It would help Lamont by showing Lieberman won’t be running as an Independent but Republican. Tying him to the President is what got Lieberman defeated in the first place. Lieberman, if he stays in the race, may have to accept their offer because he would have difficulty raising money.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:06 pmWhat is Old Bushies and Rove up to? Why do they want to help an Independence?
August 9th, 2006 at 1:07 pmSo what’s new? Lieberman being helped by members of his party.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:07 pmNot at all surprised.
At least now the Republicans don’t have to hide why they were behind Holy Joe so much.
http://www.theworstpresidentever.org
August 9th, 2006 at 1:09 pmKrazny
August 9th, 2006 at 1:10 pmI don’t know about that – if Bush actively supports Lieberman, how “independent” does Lieberman look? Wouldn’t it just make it more like two Republicans vs one Democrat in the race? Wouldn’t Lieberman siphon off many Republican votes also? And might this energize the Democrats in CT to increase their support for Lamont?
The boss wants to help divide the opposition vote and get us another Senate seat.
What a kind-hearted, honest, straightforward, helpful person!
August 9th, 2006 at 1:11 pmwhat wicked webs they weave.
could it be any more obvious that Joe no longer represents the people, much less the party that has supported him.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:11 pmPossibly, I know for many democrats, a boon from Rove, would be the final straw. How could you vote for someone who Rove supports. however it doesn’t have to be that much to turn lamont into a loser. say 10-15% of the vote might be enough.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:11 pmBetcha the Lieberman web site was taken down by Rove & Co. so they would cast blame on Lamont.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:13 pmhow’s about a state full of Diebold’s Joe?
August 9th, 2006 at 1:13 pmI thought Rove already was helping him. The “hacked” website bit smacked of a stunt Rove pulled back in Texas when he bugged his own office and blamed it on an opponent.
How many ‘Democrats’ are going to stick by Lieberman when he’s getting help from the White House?
August 9th, 2006 at 1:14 pmThe boss wants to help. Whatever we can do, we will do.’ .cue Italian mob music….
With words like that coming from Rove and Bush, it can’t mean good things to the democratic process.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:14 pmDo we need any further proof that Loserman was bad for the party?
August 9th, 2006 at 1:18 pm#8
August 9th, 2006 at 1:18 pmKranzy,
The article goes on to say that the 3rd candidate, the repub, could drop out with a week to go and throw his support to Lieberman. Could work bu tit would be good fuel for Lamont to use.
I think this is classic “Roverian” tactic of trying to turn a weakness into a strength. Maybe setting the stage for saying the Republicans are the true “big tent” party and portraying the Democrats as the “lock step” party.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:19 pmThat move has already dropped Lieber-weenies ratings by a few points.
Let’s see, Joe has been endorsed by Republican Mike Bloomberg, Karl Rove and most of the “FOX All Stars”.
Lamont has been supported by Democrat establishment.
You decide.
Joe is sinking in a swamp and he’ll never get out.
So long Joe. Can’t say I’ll miss ya.
-GSD
August 9th, 2006 at 1:22 pmLieberman is a GOP agent and Karl Rove has just confirmed it!
August 9th, 2006 at 1:22 pmJoe should have gotten his message loud and clear–How many times does the guy need to have his nuts kicked before he gets the message?
Rove only wants to rub salt in poor, sad Joe’s wounds.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:26 pmOk, so the love child story is right after all.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:29 pmthat ought to be the nail in the coffin of this turncoat
August 9th, 2006 at 1:31 pmAt least, they are not hiding it.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:31 pmTell Joe Lieberman: Respect the Voters
Please sign this petition to ask Joe Lieberman to respect the results of today’s election. Joe needs to listen to the voters and bow out of the race. It’s time for every Democrat to get behind Ned Lamont
http://www.nedlamont.com/page/s/respect
Comment by madashell — August 9, 2006 @ 12:07 pm
August 9th, 2006 at 1:31 pmironic, Lieberman is a victim of ‘the divider’ and a polarized America.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:32 pmIt’s like Bush just gave Joe the tongue-kiss of death.
Do we need any further proof that Loserman was bad for the party?
Totally agree, but do we have to call him “Loserman?” It’s sure apt…especially now, but its a GOP spread term from 2000….howzabout Feeberman? Joe Lie?
August 9th, 2006 at 1:35 pmSay what you will, I don’t like rove much, but he rarely makes mistakes. Something is afoot here.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:40 pm#2 – “… if Lieberman can pull part of the vote as an independant, the republicans could win the seat in conneticut.” Comment by Krazny
*****Don’t you worry, Kraz – the blue State of CT might just vary its shade a bit – to violet….With only a third of the state self-professed Dems – and only 50 % of them turning out – how representative was Lamont’s “victory”? I hate to break it to you, but Lieberman will win in November garnering the votes of rational Dems (there are SOME!), moderate to conservatives Independents and even some cross over Repubs. I only hope Ned can “savor the moment” – it’s not likely to repeat…..
August 9th, 2006 at 1:41 pmThat would be a great strategy for the Republicans, so I hope they funnel a lot of money against Lamont in that state. Might as well find out whether extreme left positioning works in a blue state, much less nationwide, in a general election.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:44 pmGood Lord. Most Republicans don’t even want to associate themselves with Bush.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:45 pmThe ironic thing about being anti-war, is that war will find you, no matter how far you choose to retreat, so the question is at what point you dig in and fight. The Bush administration has chosen to help middle eastern nations set up democracies and maintain their own security. The left sounds like they want to allow extremist regimes to take power in the middle east, so that they can bring the fight to us.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:48 pmIts sad to see Lieberman ( Elmer Fudd ) being so selfish as to put himself above the party and the people who voted by subverting the system and possibly giving the seat to the GOPigs due to a splitting of the vote.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:48 pmIs Lamont really that extreme left? I know the extreme right wants to make him out to be, but I suspect he is a bit more moderate then most realize. MA, if rove and Bush have told Liebermen, that he is their boy, most democrats will not vote for him. If they had stayed clear, or quietly supported lieberman, then he would have garnered more of the democratic vote.
As for you pie in the sky statements, I would suggest not putting the cart before the horse as the case mayb be, Novembe is still a long ways off.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:50 pmThe left sounds like they want to allow extremist regimes to take power in the middle east, so that they can bring the fight to us.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 9, 2006 @ 1:48 pm
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The Bush administration has chosen to help middle eastern nations set up democracies and maintain their own security.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Ohhhhh, my little “Ivy -League” Stanford alumni! (your quotes, not mine). Iraq is such a secure and democratic country, isn’t it?
August 9th, 2006 at 1:54 pmShould tis be true it validates what has been discussed time and again about Lieberman regarding his closeness to Bush. This independent challenge becomes about Lieberman now because he would not accept what the Democratic voters voiced. He has indeed lost touch with the local and his vanity and hunger for power has overshadowed his so challed ‘moral high ground and partisanship’. Is also says that Joe is a sore loser. Shame on you, Joe, you lost your class.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:54 pmRove’s plan?
August 9th, 2006 at 1:54 pmLieberman holds on to as many Dems as possible as an independent while the GOP smears Lamont.The (R) shlub does something to disqualify himself(ethics? I think he already has) at the last moment and Lieberman gets a good portion of the (R) vote and squeeks one out.
Umm Jason,
because you haven’t been paying attention. I will lay this out in simple terms
The Shiite majority in Iraq, is idealogically and ethnically in line with both the Shiite majorities in Iran, an Syria. Creation of a democrcy in Iraq, will most likely lead to a Syrian, Iran, Iraq power emergence.
They have mishandled the war completely, while ignoring the actual democracies, existing in the region, ie lebenon and Palistien sort of.
You continue to buy into the bullshit.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:55 pmI posted on piece on traitor Joe on the ThinkProgress thread for today > post 104! Joe is a Trojan-Horse Republican and is the top GOP agent in the Democrat party! His job is/was to undermine the Democrats on the Iraq war/occupation and to defend the Bush Regime!
August 9th, 2006 at 1:56 pmposted A piece on ThinkFast thread > lol > tired today.
August 9th, 2006 at 1:58 pmThe Rethugs won’t help Lieberman as an independent. This is the next move towards Lieberman making the change to the Gop party. Lieberman is beyond useless as an independent to them! The only thing left is for Rove to get himself a “convert”! Otherwise, Bye,Bye Joe! By the way, who cares where Lieberman ends up now! He’s useless to the Dems too!
August 9th, 2006 at 2:01 pmso the question is at what point you dig in and fight.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
…and thus, I assume you are enlisting to fight the good fight?
August 9th, 2006 at 2:02 pmspeaking of democracies in the middle east, ol’ wise “Ivy-leaque” one, did not the country of Lebanon have a democratic election, to which the majority voted for Hezbollah??? Just curious on that one
August 9th, 2006 at 2:05 pmsorry, back to the thread now. If the Rove intervention is true, then this should be great news for Lamont. Politicians are slowly, but surely moving away from Emperor Bush and co.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:07 pmASSHAT jhm, The ironic thing about being pro-war is the freedoms, rights and life it contunually takes away from your own people. Not to mention the additional economic burden that follows the lower and midle classes which ironically are the majority of the ones lossing freedom, rights and life. Drink some more of the juice and shut the f’k up!
August 9th, 2006 at 2:11 pm“The boss” == Satan?
August 9th, 2006 at 2:12 pmThe left sounds like they want to allow extremist regimes to take power in the middle east, so that they can bring the fight to us.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — August 9, 2006 @ 1:48 pm
What exactly has the “left” said that makes you state this?
Quotes and sources, please, with an explanation from you, for each quote you supply, as proof of support for extremist regimes.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:14 pmThanks Conn. You have played right into the Republicans hands. Keep up the good work!
August 9th, 2006 at 2:15 pm#48 – Don’t ask for what he aint got! ;-)
Sorry, I’ve been living in Texas a bit too long.
It’s the radical talking points used to describe anyone who’s not drinking the kool-aide. It’s all bluff and bluster with no substance.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:21 pmCall me crazy but wasn’t Joe the dems VP choice in 2000? Its amazing how the far left wing is willing to eat one of their own if he/she disagrees on an issue. What kind of nazi regime is Dean running anyway?
August 9th, 2006 at 2:22 pmSo Lieberman’s lines are “ugly partisanship,” “experience” and “seniority.” The funny thing about experience and seniority is that they develop naturally over time and the more Lieberman develops, the less a better senator might develop. Kind of like “staying the course” means not starting in on a better plan of action. And with regards to the partisan state of the hill, I really have to wonder — what’s Lieberman going to be changing about his behavior after 18 years to make the ugly partisanship better?
But what do you expect from somebody who outspends his opponent by 40%, loses his party’s nomination, but then vows to keep on going anyway?
So what’s the real goal of the status quo? “Vote for Lieberman: Otherwise he’ll move back to Connecticut.”
August 9th, 2006 at 2:27 pmRandy, shut up before you lose the taste of rove in your mouth
August 9th, 2006 at 2:27 pmthe funny part about Randy’s post, is he ignores how the republicans will eat their own without salt if they step away from the party message. Look what they did to Joe Wilson, who worked for the Reagan white house, when he didn’t support the Iraq war.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:29 pmRandy,
In 2000 we had no idea that the Bush administration was going to be following the PNAC doctrine and start world war III by invading countries that had nothing to do with an impending attack on US soil that could have been avoided had Bush read the August 6 2001 PDB. We also didn’t know that Joe Liberman would back this insane policy.
So, sometime you gotta throw out some rotten apples to save the barrel. Of course republicans won’t get rid of corruption in their party, so how can we expect for you to understand.
Enjoy Joe, he is one of you now.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:29 pm#29: What country do you live in where a 50% turnout for a PRIMARY deserves an “only?”
August 9th, 2006 at 2:29 pmRandy: Its amazing how the far left wing is willing to eat one of their own if he/she disagrees on an issue. – - Nope Randy, it’s much more like the far right wing engulfing and devouring the weakest in the herd. I never liked Joe as a VP choice and getting him out of the party is just Democratic Darwinism.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:30 pmWll someone tell the mainstream media that anti-war is NOT a fringe, lefty issue? Damn retards!
August 9th, 2006 at 2:30 pmA rejection of all things BUSH does not play into the Repukes hands. Shrub and company are lepers so let’s give them their own active volcanic island.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:30 pmFunny how Leiberman accused the “hacking” of his website as being “Rovian tactics”. To me that says a lot. Like Leiberman knows all about the unethical, dirty, tactics of his supporters, whom he is no longer only going on day trips with, he now spends the night with Rove and Bush, the relationship is getting serious. I guess Rovian tactics are only good when they work in your favor, huh Joe.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:32 pmThe Democrat’s have now created a situation where the votes that might have gone for one Democratic in November will now have a percentage taken by an Independent. Does Ralph Nader ring a bell?
August 9th, 2006 at 2:32 pmAs much as many people want to deny it, the War in Iraq has its historical parallel in the Viet Nam War. In both cases, the U.S. tried to militarily force its influence (”spread democracy” and “stop communism”) against a guerilla force. The military was asked to do something outside their domain, were not fully part of the advice process, were not given the needed equipment. The public was lied to about reasons and consequences. Until grassroots opposition took over and the politicians were forced by the political process to end the war. Chaos reigned when we left but resolution came.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:33 pmlieberman (R)-Stockholm) (voting record, bio) had his morals, humility, and shame surgically removed back in the fall of 2000
August 9th, 2006 at 2:33 pmTony Snowflake just said that “certain elements” in the Democratic party have shown the Democrats that if they are crossed, they will “get you.”
August 9th, 2006 at 2:37 pmSo people who express their opinion at the polls are “certain elements.”
People who oppose GWB’s policies are “insurgents” according to Newt.
Not only are the Democratic candidates and leadership subject to labelling, but the voters are also labelled.
No wonder Rove’s mother killed herself.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:39 pm.
Mr. Handlover,
Every time a regime is taken out in the Middle East, and democracy is replaced, they vote in some government we dont like, or another regime takes over. Maybe there is another way to address the issues, and I am not saying just let it be. Making oil less valuable would be a good place to start. The oil is what give these dirtbags any power.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:40 pmDoes anyone see a Darth Vadar parallel here?
August 9th, 2006 at 2:41 pmFunny how many trolls are supporting Lieberman hahaha
get over it Trolls. Leiberman was running as a democrat. His constituents in CT decided they did not want to send him back to the Senate as a democrat.
That is a good ol fashioned American election, the people spoke PERIOD.
Speaking against that is speaking against the American electorate system.
What is really bothering you about that election is that it is a big indicator that the tide is turning and it is turning away from the current administration.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:41 pmThat is scaring the hell out of the Republicans right now.
Get ready for the Repubs in power to start demonizing the democratic process, as it no longer works in thier favor. These guys are so full of themselves, it really will feel like a cou de ta (sic), when they are all voted out.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:43 pmWas run over by the bus due to his support for the war or because he is Jewish? My guess is the latter. I only hope that all democratic Jews understand this fact and realize that their party has been taken over by a bunch of anti-semites and never vote democratic again.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:43 pmWrong. This situation is being created by Joe Liberman, not the Democrats that want to get rid of his ass. He should drop out, bu the is a sore loser, so he won’t.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:44 pmRepugs here seem to think that Lamont is “extreme” left – show how little they know. He is a moderate Democrat who opposes the war.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:45 pmLieberman is a moderate Democrat who supports war and Bush&Co.
One won, one lost.
Nice play of the race card Randy, I guess your anti-semtism is showing.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:49 pmBush is going to give Lieberman a reach around?. How nice.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:49 pmHe sure was, and that’s exactly why I voted for Nader.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:49 pmWas run over by the bus due to his support for the war or because he is Jewish? My guess is the latter. I only hope that all democratic Jews understand this fact and realize that their party has been taken over by a bunch of anti-semites and never vote democratic again.
Oh, another funny one. Because most Dems I know want Feingold to run for Pres.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:51 pmSo what does Tony Snowflake (love that!) have to say about Chaffee being challenged? They’re pretty quiet about that incumbent challenge, aren’t they….
August 9th, 2006 at 2:52 pmRandy wants to charge that JL lost because he is Jewish! He displays his ignorance of Connecticut history with his blatant attempt at a false charge of bigotry.
August 9th, 2006 at 2:52 pmIt just must be SO aggravating for the W trolls, lackeys and apologists to know they DON’T represent the political or social mainstream in this country
Gosh, I thought with Rove’s non-indictment over deliberately outing Valerie Plame in a hissy fit of political pique that he would soon right the rapidly sinking USS GOP, and leave all us libs quaking in our boots as the supposed “political genius” once again made us rue the day Rove wasn’t indicted
Well, the only quaking this lib is doing is from laughing at Rove’s complete inability to halt the slide into political wilderness and obscurity the GOP’s headed for starting in November
Dear God, PLEASE let Rove try and use the National Security blather again
When Rove claims the GOP is stronger on National Security, simply point out the following
W shut down the CIA unit last year devoted to catching/killing Usama bin Laden. Let the Dems campaign include a promise to reopen that unit should the Dems capture enough political power to do so, and let every Dem candidate challenge their GOP opponent to do the same, or at least justify why W’s shuttering of this particular CIA operation makes sense when trying to head off another al-Qaeda strike
Point out how, in the guise of battling the same religious extremism that hit the US on Sept 11, that religious fanatics are now in charge of Iraq, and that those same religious fanatics are deepening ties to their clerical brethren running the show in Iran
Start pressing the GOP to explain just how the US can attack and occupy Iran & Syria at the same time without reducing current troop levels in Iraq should the Administration decide to militarily join with Israel’s ever-expanding battle with Hezbollah
If he’s so convinced that “staying the course” in Iraq is the proper policy, have the Dems challenge Dear Leader W to give a speech in the Iraq parliament, after, of course, announcing to the whole world that W will be going to Baghdad-and by announce, I mean with a few days worth of buildup, not this “give the Iraqi PM a heads up of only 5 minutes” crap W did when he last dropped in for a visit
And any GOP candidate echoing Rove’s National Security BS strategy ought to answer the following questions publicly
Valerie Plame’s job was to track and disrupt the transfer of WsMD to rogue regimes, groups and individuals, with Iran the focus of her attempts at the time of her outing
In the course of her efforts, she used a CIA front operation called Brewster Jennings, which meant that she had various dealings with undercover operatives, and double agents in other govts, around the world
So…..
How did outing Plame make this country safer as a result?
How did outing Plame make it easier to recruit the best and the brightest to help keep WsMD out of the hands of rogue regimes, groups and individuals?
When Plame was outed, it was inevitable that her CIA front of Brewster Jennings would be disclosed as well, thereby exposing all those undercover operatives and double agents in other Govts
How did outing Plame, and then Brewster Jennings make it easier to recruit the foreign operatives and double agents needed to keep WsMD out of the hands of rogue regimes, groups and individuals?
How did the Administration’s DELIBERATE outing of Plame increase the trust level between the White House and the CIA’s intelligence analysts?
Expect the wailing and gnashing of GOP teeth to increase to a deafening level the closer we get to the November elections
August 9th, 2006 at 3:00 pmA similar challenge in Michigan between Knollenberg and Godchaux; also in RI for moderate Chaffee against Laffey.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:01 pmThis says far more about voter dissatisfaction with incumbents.
King cranky,
August 9th, 2006 at 3:02 pmThe Democratic leadership should hear from you!
beware of the wolves’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr8k8WHTzN0
August 9th, 2006 at 3:05 pmMr. Lieberman, either you’re with us, or you’re with the Republicans.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:06 pmisn’t it touching, the number of “concerned” GOP trolls who are so terribly worried about the fate of the Democratic party now that we have dumped the most obvious GOP operative from its ranks?
ROFL
You guys must be shitting little green golf balls.
ROFL
August 9th, 2006 at 3:13 pmIf your going to run with the wolves you can’t piss like a puppy! I like the disclosure at the bottom of that article: We haven’t been able to get independent confirmation of this just yet. Isn’t this typical of the drive-by-media? Shoot and answer questions later, if your caught.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:14 pm#84
Unlike the shot putts the Dems are deficating!
August 9th, 2006 at 3:20 pmThis Just In:
August 9th, 2006 at 3:22 pmRummy resigns, Leiberman appointed Secretary of Defence.
Sorry: Lieberman i before e as in ego.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:23 pmHey Joe, you like Iraq so much and back the President, maybe George can send you to clean the cells at Abu Gharib – you know to help out the war effort.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:23 pmLet’s see now. We have Hannity, Coulter, Rove, Bush, Snow, and at least a dozen right-wing pundits proclaiming their love for Lieberman and offering unsolicited advice on what the Dems need to do to be successful.
Ri-i-i-i-i-ight.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:25 pmOur mole is working out just fine. Split the votes….and let the GOP walk right in…..WooHoooo!
August 9th, 2006 at 3:26 pmSTRIP HIM …., BRAND HIM…., AND, TURN HIM OUT!
This AM, Senator Dodd said that Leiberman would NOT be stirpped of committee assingments, assuming “he would STILL be in the Democratic caccus.”
WTF!?
STRIP HIM OF ALL COMMIITTE ASSIGNMENTS, BRAND HIM THE PARTY TRAITOR HE IS, AND, TURN HIM OUT TO PASTURE for the last two months of his tenure.
Thus, preventing him from inside RECON of the coming election srategies. He WILL turn (Re-pug-nant-can) , if he IS pushed, this guy REALLY doesn’t want to get off the government ‘tit.
FLUSH HIM OUT AND, FLUSH THE TURD NOW!
A VERY pissed of Vietnam Vet that is EXTREMELY tired of being called soft/weak on defense/national security by a bunch of f***ing ChickenHawks that never served.
Ken in NY (and, a CT res in 78-80)
August 9th, 2006 at 3:27 pm#94
WoooHoooo! The libs are “unhinged.”
August 9th, 2006 at 3:30 pmHEY BUTT CHEEKS – what the hell is your problem?
August 9th, 2006 at 3:32 pmBUTT CHEEKS – ANOTHER PAID SHILL FOR THE REPUKLICAN PARTY
August 9th, 2006 at 3:35 pmThe ONLY way Lamont will win the U.S. Senate seat for Conn. is if Lieberman doesn’t run as an independent.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:35 pmIf Karl Rove is getting involved, then you know darn well its going to get crooked and ugly!!!!
August 9th, 2006 at 3:37 pm#95
What? I can see my comments are going over like a “turd” in the punch bowl! Tracy #97 has just said a mouth full. Go Joe!!! Waaahooooo!
August 9th, 2006 at 3:44 pmThe response to Lamont’s win has really got under the Republican’s skin. Look at the emotional gut responses. They would have been much better off not reacting at all, but I think they see the handwriting on the wall now.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:44 pm#100
You got that right! We are loving this! Split the votes excellent!!
August 9th, 2006 at 3:48 pmThe State of Connecticut has Lieberman already registered as an Independent, as opposed to the Independent Party, and not a Democrat. Obviously there must be cross filing in Conn. So if even he had received the most votes he would not have won the Democratic place on the ballot. The filing date is the end of August and he has filed as an independent so he will be on the ballot. All of the projections and conjectures amount to nothing more than the jacking of jaws. There is only one fact: Lieberman lost in the primary. The primary purpose of the primary is to primarily separate the potential winners from the sure losers. So be it!
August 9th, 2006 at 3:51 pmTerror level will be raised to Blackwatch Plaid!
August 9th, 2006 at 3:53 pmThe filing date for the Republican ballot in November has passsed. Lieberman cannot run as a Republican.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:54 pmSo long Joe! (I’m waiving goodbye with one finger)
August 9th, 2006 at 3:55 pm#32 Jason M. Hendler
The ironic thing about being anti-war, is that war will find you, no matter how far you choose to retreat, so the question is at what point you dig in and fight. The Bush administration has chosen to help middle eastern nations set up democracies and maintain their own security. The left sounds like they want to allow extremist regimes to take power in the middle east, so that they can bring the fight to us.
You’re right. I don’t know why I didn’t see it before. If we don’t keep pouring money, equipment ,and American lives into the giant rathole in Iraq, the Sunnis and Shiites will pull up stakes and bring their civil war over here. Then we’ll all be stuck in the middle of their war. Better to just let our troops be stuck in the middle of it with no plan from the commander in chief, except ’stay the disastrous course.’
You should admit one of two things, Jason. Either your level of comprehension is so low that that drivel (”war will find you, no matter how far you choose to retreat”) really makes sense to you, or you know it’s crap and just think you can convince someone here that it makes sense.
For the benefit of anyone who thinks there’s logic in Jason’s homilies:
1. The issue is not as simple as being anti-war or pro-war. Until it became a civil war, it wasn’t a war at all. It was an invasion of a sovereign nation by the United States, in violation of our country’s own UN resolution. The plan to invade Iraq was hatched long before 9/11. All rationale given for the invasion turned out to be lies. At no time and in no way were our troops being sent to Iraq to defend our country.
2. When troops are thrown into a situation that is unwinnable, it is not defeat or retreat to get them out of harm’s way before much more damage to our national defense can be incurred. To leave them indefinitely in an unwinnable situation and allow our national defense to be weakened to a point that makes us vulnerable to military actions by other large nations is treasonous.
Jason, are you advocating treason?
August 9th, 2006 at 3:55 pmHow dare these trolls and Lieberman go against the mandate that Lamont received from the voters of Connecticut. I mean 52% is even bigger than 49% or even 51%. Lamont has got himself some political capital and he is going to use it.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:56 pm#79 – EXCELLENT post, KingCranky! I just wish it were more obvious to the voting public of all stripes, Dems, Reps and Indies.
You know, folks, for the past two weeks, I’ve been reading that even Connecticut’s voters like Joe. They voted not against him… but for Lamont. Because their views are closer to Nick’s than to Joe’s.
I read that in interview after interview… especially in USA Today.
I like Joe.
I don’t like his coziness with the Admin… I hate his view on Iraq… and I still have nightmares about that Judas Kiss he got from Bush at the end of SOTU ‘05… and I hate KKKarl’s offer to him earlier today.
But Joe has always reached out and worked with both Dems and Reps (and Indys too!)
He’s a moderate… like Chris Shays… John McCain… etc. etc. etc.
I think we should support Mr. Lieberman because he’s a moderate… and that’s exactly what we need in both parties right now!
And those who regularly read this blog… know that I am not a Bush shill… not a troll… but I believe in fairness, equality for all and balance in the government.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:56 pmSo Lieberman still doesn’t get it huh? He was used, abused and screwed by the Bushies and he only got a peck on the cheek. Rove is just using (and has been using) this putz for the last 5+ years. Now Roves eyes are on the prize for the conneticut senate seat. If Lieberass splits the vote and the repugnants get the Conn seat who here really thinks Rove will ever talk to that loser Lieberman again?
August 9th, 2006 at 3:56 pmCall me crazy but wasn’t Joe the dems VP choice in 2000? Its amazing how the far left wing is willing to eat one of their own if he/she disagrees on an issue. What kind of nazi regime is Dean running anyway?
Comment by Randy — August 9, 2006 @ 2:22 pm
Ok. You are crazy.
As for Joe being the Dem’s VP choice in 2000, um, well, I think he was Gore’s choice. Funny thing that I didn’t have a choice in selecting him. If so, he wouldn’t have been mine.
As for one group being willing to “eat one of their own” if they disagree with an issue, there are plenty of examples of the right eating one of their own when they disagree with the dictator-in-chief and his policies.
August 9th, 2006 at 3:59 pmOh Yeah; I’m reminded of Katherine Harris by all this. I don’t think Rove talks to her anymore either (fact I don’t think any Repugnant does.)
August 9th, 2006 at 3:59 pmUnfortunately, the time to “reach out and work” with both parties has past. People are dying around the world everyday. Our civil liberties are almost gone. Bush is simply off is psychoville and dragging the US with him. To delay electing representitives that will clean house will place the USA in such a state that the US we have known will never be salvaged.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:00 pm#94 Cheeks
WoooHoooo! The libs are “unhinged.â€
“Unhinged” – That’s rightspeak for “Uh-h-h-h. I got nothin’.” Frequently used by Hannity, Malkin, and Coulter, because uh-h-h-h they got nothin’.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:01 pmKatherine Harris snack bars…I like it.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:01 pmWhat kind of nazi regime is Dean running anyway?
Comment by Randy — August 9, 2006 @ 2:22 pm
UMMMM….I think Randy needs to review his 20th century European conflicts a little more closely. Nazi’s were facist dictators controlled by a narcisistic maniac who thought he was god on earth and had the backing of of the corporate and banking clans of germany at the time.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:06 pmI don’t know but that sounds like…Oh yeah…The current administration in DC right now.
The Democrat’s have now created a situation where the votes that might have gone for one Democratic in November will now have a percentage taken by an Independent. Does Ralph Nader ring a bell?
Comment by Cheeks — August 9, 2006 @ 2:32 pm
Ralph Nader wasn’t one of two Democrats (leave off the apostrophe next time, will you?) who got beat in a primary election and then gave a big “F-you” to the citizens of Connecticut and vowed to run for the Senate anyway. Bad comparison.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:08 pm#110
Every time a former Bush administration official or retired general dares to speak out about blunders this administration has made, and I think we’re talking about dozens of individuals now, Rove cuts loose with an all out smear attack. All of a sudden, a lifelong Republican, who in many cases had also worked for the Reagan or Bush I administrations, gets attacked, called a liberal, a Clintonite, or a disgruntled former employee. Anything but acknowledge legitimate criticism.
Has there ever been another president who has had so many former employees step forward to criticize him for willful ignorance and negligence, or for anything else, as far as that goes?
August 9th, 2006 at 4:12 pmThe “Kiss” was cheap insurance to help insure a three way race which is sure to have much internecine fighting, on which TV especially cabel is going to report on continously to show disarray in the D’s ranks. The message will be: If they can’t agree upon anything themselves how the hell can they govern? The’re is going to be other similar distractions (plots, tricks etc.) comming down the pike, rest assured. I hope the D’s figure this out and can counter it effectively.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:13 pmThanks
CT may very well go republofascist, because Lieberman has shown exactly what he is – an opportunist interested in self promotion. If he really ever was a democrat, he would accept the will of the people of CT and at least step aside to allow Lamont to win the state. The people of Ct however have shown whoever they elect, they will fire if they are displeased. Maybe that would be a check on whoever represents them in the Senate.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:21 pmGod, the “boss” going to help Joey. Say it ain’t so Bruce. I can’t believe Springsteen will… Oh, the other boss. Sorry!
August 9th, 2006 at 4:24 pmJason Hendler,please show me on the map where these middle east nations are that Bush is helping to setup democracy in.Unless you’re living in some kind of paralell universe the only thing this moron has done is pushed these nations a hundred or more years into the past and inflamed the fires of terrorism even further.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:38 pmThe Bush administration has chosen to help middle eastern nations set up democracies and maintain their own security.
The result has been a disaster, with terrorists gaining political legitimacy, dictatorships digging in, and American forces hollowed out.
Bush has betrayed America. Everyone who supports him is a marked man.
We took out Lieberman last night. Today we celebrate. Tomorrow, we start working on the rest of the list.
Ditch Bush or be buried with him.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:38 pm.
Loserman only cares about himself, that’s pretty obvious.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:38 pmWill Joe end up being the GOP candidate or if he wins the race, under the independent banner vote with the Republicans to organize the Senate. Senate Dems are now backing Lamot and urging Jou to get out, will he use that fact and “lefttish extremism”, among the Dems as a reason to bolt. Today 60 5 of the American people oppose the Iraqu War, the highest number yet. THAT EXTREMIST LEFT IS GETTING LARGER AND LARGER !!
August 9th, 2006 at 4:38 pmI’m not surprised.
Those Neocons stick together.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:40 pmBush gives God a bad name.
August 9th, 2006 at 4:52 pmClinton may have had sex in the White House,
but he didn’t make her Secretary of State!
Man,
August 9th, 2006 at 4:53 pmnothing shrivels the boys faster then the thought of Condi Rice nekkid
Hendler the Magnificent is nothing more than a supercilious, ignominious ass who is so impressed with himself that his ability to comprehend the issues is clouded by his galactic ego. The American people were totally behind the invasion of Afghanistan to seek out and destroy bin Laden and his band of cutthroats. These extremists, the Taliban, are back in business and still creating havoc with nary a mention unless bin Laden makes one of his appearances on TV. The people of Iraq are being duped into believing that a democracy can exist there, just as the people of the US were duped into a meaningless “war” started by profiteers. Bush had no idea or comprehension of the makeup of the Iraqi society-Shiite, Sunni or Kurd and the great divide among them. According to neocon thinking we must fight them over there or they will be over here. Once Bush is out of Office and America makes a serious attempt to secure our borders and ports as he has ignored, stop making deals with countries that have aided and abetted terrorists, deny amnesty because terrorists may enter and make Homeland security a viable, effective tool against terrorists infiltration instead of the joke it is and bring our troops back from Iraq to defend America, then we will have accomplished our goal of security. Bush has increased the threat of terrorism, but America can secure itself . I do not foresee at any time an invasion of the US by the Taliban, Sunni or Shiite or Hezbollah entity. This is just more nonsense from the right wing to keep their propaganda war ongoing. What will bring America to its knees is endless war squandering lives and treasure, while other nations sit back and reap the benefits of our decline. It has happened before in the annals of history.
August 9th, 2006 at 5:01 pmYa know cheeks i think you are trying to put the best face on this blow to the repugs but i can detect desperation in every one of your posts,and i find it quite disturbing,especially the wahoo thing,its a dead giveaway.
August 9th, 2006 at 5:07 pmHah! I wonder how the Republican in the race feels about that! That was such an incredibyl GAUCHE thing to do to him—I wouldn’t blame him if he quit the race altoegther. How humiliating…..
August 9th, 2006 at 5:30 pmThe Bush kiss did enough damage to Joe; now Bush wants to fisnish the job. From the Bush view, the good citizens of CT have nothing to say. So, you good people of CT, tell Bush and Rove to come, spend their money and then via your votes to go back to DC with cancelled checks and Ned Lamont.
August 9th, 2006 at 5:30 pmSo, Rove has offered to help Lie-berman to cheat. Look for myriad problems at the Connecticut polls Nov 7. That’s “whatever we can do to help” means based on the last 3 elections.
August 9th, 2006 at 5:53 pmDid anyone else hear Lie-berman say he would be running as an “independent democrat?” I was not aware of any such animal… especially on a ballot come November. I dobelieve the man should be forced to run as a Republican if he wants to keep trying to retain his office. He seems to fit the bill (or rather, bush).
August 9th, 2006 at 5:55 pmIt’s touching that Republicans are so worried about Democrats failing that they are sharing such thoughtful, intelligent insights with us. Worry not for whom the bell tolls, Republicans. It tolls for thee. Personally, I am smiling to be rid of a “representative” who doesn’t represent my political beliefs and laughing at the Republican reaction to an American primary election that had nothing to do with them at all. I seem to recall that the Republicans had already chosen a candidate in Conn. Surprise! The Democrats get to do the same. And we did.
Get a grip!
Highly Amused
August 9th, 2006 at 6:08 pmJason #32:
“The Bush administration has chosen to help middle eastern nations set up democracies and maintain their own security.”
Sweet Jesus, do you really believe that statement? Do you really think the people in power care a diddly about anything except power and money? They are looking out for their interests – not the interests of the greater humanity. Read, listen, think… for yourself.
August 9th, 2006 at 6:08 pmSEND YOUR LOCAL NEO-CON A PACKET OF “PURPLE KOOL-AID.
August 9th, 2006 at 6:13 pmFirst it was Zell Miller in 2004, now Joe Lieberman in 2006. Joe L has his nose soooooo far up Bush’s ass that he HAS to be Pinocchio. Isn’t that a brown ring I see around Joe’s mouth?
August 9th, 2006 at 6:18 pmJason MH:”If war will find you now matter how far you retreat”- Just how do you explain the gazillion draft deferements by the Bushco & their cheerleaders?
August 9th, 2006 at 6:23 pmShit like this is the very reason Lieberman had to go. Only now, everybody knows where they stand. Senate Democrats obviously had no love lost for this guy either, they’re dropping his Chancellor Palpatine ass faster than Obi Wan cut off Anakin’s legs.
August 9th, 2006 at 6:52 pmWhy doesn’t Lieberman just join the Republican Party. Then he’ll be in the party that shares his beliefs, he can run in November against Lamont in a legit race. Why pretend to be a Dem and take up all that air?
It’s a sly way to have the Republicans occupy more seats the Senate, if you ask me. He should just fess up and move across the aisle.
August 9th, 2006 at 7:03 pmOf course we should of expected this from the Busheviks, especially from Karl “Butterbutt” Rove…but what kind of help does Liberman need? Since he turned his back on the Dems (which he has long ago, he was just a Dem in name like Zell Miller), and for Bill Clinton to support Liberman calling him a ‘Good Democrat?’ Hell, Liberman was the FIRST Dem to publicly attack Bill during the Impeachment process (which in my opinion was a waste of time and tax-payers money), so ‘Bush’s favorite Democrat’ is looking for the Bush Crime Family to help him out…of course we should of expected this…
August 9th, 2006 at 7:39 pmmy guess, cheeks is a mere teenage twit. what’s with the wahoos?
August 9th, 2006 at 7:47 pmDid anyone else catch Ken Mehlman refuse to endores the republican candidate in CT when pushed more than once by Chris Mathews on Hardball???
August 9th, 2006 at 7:50 pm[...] Update: Perhaps you’ve heard about this: Rove reaches out to Lieberman: ‘The boss wants to help.’ ABC’s George Stephanopoulos reports, “According to a close Lieberman adviser, the President’s political guru, Karl Rove, has reached out to the Lieberman camp with a message straight from the Oval Office: ‘The boss wants to help. Whatever we can do, we will do.’†John at Americablog just posted this: [...]
August 9th, 2006 at 9:05 pmLoserman is so gone. Rove is just putting the last nail in the coffin. The White House is a sinking ship and Holy Joe is the rat who forgot to get off.
August 9th, 2006 at 10:11 pm128
I don’t think the fear is of an invasion by the Taliban, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, or whatever other terrorist entity. There is some fear of continued, isolated terrorist attacks–this seams well-founded, and I am still quite surprised that another terrorist attack hasn’t occurred on American soil. Perhaps becuase 9/11 in fact wasn’t a terrorist attack at all? And it is true that the neocons use the threat of terrorist attacks to justify their various fascistic policies.
But still, I think the concern is not invasion, but rather an oil embargo. The U.S. economy is utterly dependent on the flow of cheap foreign oil, and, since oil production is pretty clearly just about peaking worldwide, any disruption in supply, even a mild one, will have huge repercussions in the U.S. economy. That’s why we’re in Iraq, silly. To control the oil. We’ve been successful up to this point in controlling Middle East oil reserves by installing dictators oppressive to thier people but friendly to the U.S. That is starting to break down, as a result of US and Israeli aggression in the area. When it breaks down totally and radical Islamic movements begin controlling the flow of oil, we will see massive, possibly nuclear, attacks, to dislodge them, and install a permanent U.S. / Israeli presence to guard over the oil fields. When that begins to irk Russia and China, I shudder to think what’s going to happen.
August 9th, 2006 at 10:51 pmSounds like a guy that didn’t take his opponent seriously enough in the beginning. Also a guy who was more interested in his own interests than that of his constituents.
He thought he had it made and didn’t get the job done. The fault is his own. But he doesn’t want to accept it. Now he’s consorting with the enemy. And he expects voters to have respect for him in November? You can’t just “act like you’re for the people.” Eventually they’ll catch on, Joe.
August 10th, 2006 at 12:20 amIt looks like Rove wants to make old Lieber-Man the Elmer Fudd version of Zell Miller.
August 10th, 2006 at 1:15 amHorton
August 10th, 2006 at 1:18 amWrong. Oil is traded on an open market. Nobody knows where it comes from or where it goes. The Bushapoids want to control the source because other countries (China, Japan, India, etc.) are becoming a far larger market than the U.S. could ever be and threatening to steamroll us with their consumption.
Joe Lieberman is a very sly GOP agent, so expect him to try every trick imaginable to keep his Senate seat! GOP will even try to rig the election in November for him, so all Democrats must be prepared to take to the streets, like Mexicans are doing for Obrador, to make sure that Lamont does not get defrauded!
August 10th, 2006 at 3:08 amDid anyone else catch Ken Mehlman refuse to endores the republican candidate in CT when pushed more than once by Chris Mathews on Hardball???
Comment by Nigel — August 9, 2006 @ 7:50 pm
Yes! He said they were going to let the Republicans in CT handle things. Heard somewhere (may have been on Hardball) that the Republican candidate there currently has 3% of the vote.
August 10th, 2006 at 9:56 am[...] Dees “Leeberman” perzon, he loozes ze election and then he sayz, “No! I vill NOT Looze!” so he decides to fight his friendz who like him for eighteen yearz. Diz is … how you say… “Ze..Dieztiech!! Err… Ze Stoopid!” It est very sad and stoopid.” An then everybody leaves him and all of them…zey say; “Ah! You no like us! You go away now!” Everybody sayz dis except ze Diezt.. err.. Boosh. Ze Rove-Boosh, he callz de Leeberman and he zays: “Ze Boosh-Boss vill help you be mean to your faithful friendz of ze past eighteen yearz! We promise success! Joy and ze comfort! [...]
August 10th, 2006 at 11:04 amLeiberman received his kiss on the front-side from Bush soley because he had been so very good at kissing Bush’s back-side. This is what the voters decided has been precisely Leiberman’s problem; spending entirely too much time on his knees as a sycophant for the Republican party. The decision to remove him from office was not made by the “radical left wing of the Democratic party”, but by the citizens themselves who are more informed of the realities of our disastrous foreign policies than our congressmen who have chosen to insulate themselves in Washington in a world divorced from reality.
August 10th, 2006 at 11:15 amZell Miller needs to get out of the Democratic party also and run as an independent….or join the Republicans. Two jump ship….ahhh.
August 10th, 2006 at 12:13 pm[...] Karl Rove contacted Lieberman and said that the boss wanted to help him win. Read article [...]
August 11th, 2006 at 2:30 amYeah, I like it…. Joe Lieberman / Zell Miller as the GOP ticket in 2008!
Two self-righteous pompous jerks together in the party that suits them best!!!
August 11th, 2006 at 3:32 pmFor Truth,
For the record, the term is “coup d’etat” — an attack on the “state” (actually, the king). It came from pre-Revolutionary french when “l’etat c’est moi” was in fashion. That was a “Louis-ism” for “the state, it is I”.
It could also be a “Bush-ism”.
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