Bush Officials Admit Playing Little Role In Foiling British Terror Plot
Bush Officials Admit Playing Little Role In Foiling British Terror Plot
Conservatives have “seized on the arrests of terrorism suspects in Britain yesterday to bolster a White House campaign to turn national security issues to their advantage.”
But as White House officials have admitted — and news reports have verified — the Bush administration apparently had little to do with foiling the potential “second September 11.”
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff:
Well, we think the British succeeded in disrupting the plot. And there’s no question the focal point of the operational activity was in Britain. … Now we really took a lot of our cue from them because they had the boots on ground. They had the firsthand knowledge. [8/10/06]
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales:
Today’s announcement is a true testament to the hundreds of hours of patient work by British authorities. [Gonzales, 8/10/06]
Congressional Quarterly:
[Conservative lawmakers] largely praised the administration’s response, although it appeared British authorities had thwarted the plot with minimal involvement by the United States. [8/10/06]
CNN’s Suzanne Malveaux:
[W]e have learned that President Bush first learned about this developing terrorist plot on Sunday. That is when he had a video conference call with Prime Minister Blair. [8/10/06]
The actual White House record is nothing to brag about. The former 9/11 Commission gave the administration “dismal” grades on homeland security in its latest report card, including an “F” for failures to improve aviation security. Commissioner James Thompson, the former governor of Illinois, “warned in particular of the failure to protect against terrorists smuggling a bomb onboard a plane.”
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Nice save this helps the lap dog Tony Blair save face. He did it all by himself without the help of the great King George. Blair and Bush have lied so much it doesn’t matter anymore. As for the US not involved well if Bush knew anything he wouldn’t care anyway he’s on vacation with Connie. Remember 9/11 and Katrina Bush looked the other way until the public out cry. I guess Tony Snow forgot to tell us Bush was still reading the book My Pet Goat it’s been a while now.
August 11th, 2006 at 12:55 pm…including an “F†for failures to improve aviation security. Commissioner James Thompson, the former governor of Illinois, “warned in particular of the failure to protect against terrorists smuggling a bomb onboard a plane.â€
But the good news is that Homeland Security and FEMA are now well stocked with water and personal grooming products to meet the needs of victims of the next natural disaster.
August 11th, 2006 at 12:57 pmyou don’t actually believe that shooter and the boob would want to stop something like this do you?
this is just what they want, desperately
this is just like what they arranged the first time.
remember, they knew all about this “investigation” and used it for political purposes to smear Lamont and everyone else, days before it actually happened. what does that tell us?
August 11th, 2006 at 12:58 pmChertoff is an Ass, and it shows.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:00 pmcongratulations to competent British intelligence! Maybe we could outsource some of our terrorist intelligence operations to them?
August 11th, 2006 at 1:05 pm‘Blue light special’ on sport drink bottles and burkas at the local Hajimart.
Allah bless Islamerica!
August 11th, 2006 at 1:08 pmWe might want to take some terror fighting lessons from the UK. Our approach seems overreactive and misguided.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:09 pmWith this week’s revelations regarding the UK terrorist plot to blow up airliners en route the United States, the Conservative Threat Level (CTL) has been raised to Red/Severe (Return to Middle Ages Likely).
August 11th, 2006 at 1:10 pm#6, No – while the British foil a plot to blow up American airplanes, George Bush goes on vacation. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT! The “progressives” would give Bush credit if he ever did anything right.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:10 pmWow. Think Emperor Bush could learn something from the Brits?
Afterall, it took a little police work and didn’t require the invasion of a whole country to achieve certain goals.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:14 pmBush should not get any credit for this.
Why did he wait until thursday to spring this on? The only ones that are hateful is the Nut Wing Republicans.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:14 pm#10
The “progressives†would give Bush credit if he ever did anything right.
You just maxed out the the Bullsh*t Detector.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:14 pmbut if any “article†here actually credited the administration for ANYTHING positive with regards to keeping terrorists at bay, etc., I most likely would fall down and hit my head.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 11, 2006 @ 1:07 pm
Please TP find an article crediting the administration for keeping the terrorists at bay.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:16 pmSo I don’t know where [Osama bin Laden] is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. …And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.
White House, Mar. 13, 2002
The President and his war are complete frauds.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:16 pmStupid lemming neocons, without your complicity, the charade couldn’t continue.
Thats what i thought. Wheres all the media about this? The administration hasnt helped airport security since , ever. hasnt helped port security either. all talk all politics
August 11th, 2006 at 1:17 pmDissatisfied Progs resent sharing credit with anyone outside their ideological boundaries.
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 11, 2006 @ 1:07 pm
I guess that would make Michael Chertoff a “dissatisfied prog” who resents “sharing credit with anyone outside their ideological boundaries”
Do you ever read before you post your blather?
August 11th, 2006 at 1:17 pmBush stayed on vacation for Katrina, Bush allowed 9-11 to happen because he’s incompetant, Bush still hasn’t prosecuted Al Queda for bombing NY 5 years ago, oh but’s let’s give him credit for flying back off vacation to sign a Terry schiavo bill? Give me a break!
August 11th, 2006 at 1:19 pmIf George Bush pulled out a .357 and personally put down an armed barbarian ready to commit mayhem and murder, the situation would end up being reported as a murder suicide of the VP and himself.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:20 pmI do believe MA’s blathering comments are just that blathering and idiotic. I think this anti-humanitarian fool is just biding her time waiting to be raptured.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:21 pmMA – you see what happens when the Administration uses guns, ask Cheney’s lawyer friend. Or was he an “armed barbarian ready to commit mayhem and murder” in the new fascist BS. Do you really want to encourage Chimpy to pick up a loaded gun?
August 11th, 2006 at 1:22 pm[...] The administration has admitted that they had absolutely nothing to do with the British capturing those supposed “liquid terrorists.” I guess that’s why they actually got caught. (ba-dum-ching!) [...]
August 11th, 2006 at 1:24 pmIf George Bush pulled out a .357 and personally put down an armed barbarian ready to commit mayhem and murder, the situation would end up being reported as a murder suicide of the VP and himself.
Comment by Just plain mad — August 11, 2006 @ 1:20 pm
Bravo! Laugh of the day!
August 11th, 2006 at 1:25 pmLol the truth comes out that PM Tony Blair revealed this supposed plot to help out his male lover President George W. Bush > will they now admit they did a three way with Jeff Gannon?
August 11th, 2006 at 1:26 pmHe was more interested in listening to the child’s story about the goat rather than worry about what was happening to the towers. So, we had three times the time necessary to accomplish the events. Bin Laden, CNN, Friday, October 29, 2004
“I thought it was going to help,†Bush said in a post-election interview with Sammon about bin Laden’s videotape. “I thought it would help remind people that if bin Laden doesn’t want Bush to be the President, something must be right with Bush.â€
Our President clearly uses Bin Laden as a political tool/ally.
He couldn’t care less about ending terrorism, as his actions and words so clearly illustrate.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:27 pm#18 bones Don’t forget yesterday Bush came to my state of Wisconsin for a private fund raiser for John Gard which is running for REp Mark Green. Mark Green is running for Governor. Green will never win because we don’t need another corrupt Republican that ruined our state.
Governor Doyle is doing a fine job.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:28 pm#24- Lol the truth comes out that PM Tony Blair revealed this supposed plot to help out his male lover President George W. Bush > will they now admit they did a three way with Jeff Gannon?
If the “liberal” press ever had a backbone or the guts to do it, you know it would be plastered all over the front page of every newspaper in the land!
August 11th, 2006 at 1:28 pmCNN’s Suzanne Malveaux:
[W]e have learned that President Bush first learned about this developing terrorist plot on Sunday. That is when he had a video conference call with Prime Minister Blair. [8/10/06]
Hmmm…Sunday August 6th? Wow, the anniversary of the PDB he ignored 5 years ago. Ironic.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:29 pmI applaud Bush and his administration for all they are trying to do to win this war of civilizations.
His courage and leadership are remarkable. Islamic fundamentalism is the real threat.
Progressives/conspiracy types need to get they head out from between their legs.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:31 pmBuckarooBanzai,
You posted it before I could.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:32 pm#29 – PJ buddy, when even 60% of US citizens and ALL the countries in the rest of the world disagree with you, it’s time to rethink your opinion.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:33 pmMy worry is that this alleged terrorist plot will FAIL to boost Dubya’s approval ratings, so the Bush Regime might be forced to do plan B, which would be another contrived terror attack on US?!
August 11th, 2006 at 1:33 pmStop beating around the Bush (pun intended).
Your statement should read:
I applaud Bush and his administration for all they are trying to do to win this war of religions.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:34 pm**[Conservative lawmakers] largely praised the administration’s response, although it appeared British authorities had thwarted the plot with minimal involvement by the United States.**
Makes as much sense as :
In other news, Conservative lawmakers largely praised the administration for Noah successfully building the Ark and for Jesus walking on water =P
August 11th, 2006 at 1:34 pmPJ if remove your head from your ass perhaps you can see things clearer.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:35 pmBuckarooBanzai,
You posted it before I could.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — August 11, 2006 @ 1:32 pm
Luckily the British were in charge this time. Otherwise it would have been ignored, so Dubya could spend some quality time clearing brush and riding his bike.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:35 pm#32, what are you talking about – this was BushCos “plan B, which would be another contrived terror attack on US?!”.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:35 pmI’m feeling the love now!!!
August 11th, 2006 at 1:37 pmif any “article†here actually credited the administration for ANYTHING positive with regards to keeping terrorists at bay, etc., I most likely would fall down and hit my head
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 11, 2006 @ 1:07 pm
Shit… somebody quick… credit the administration for something positive!
We might be able to knock the cretin out long enough to have a serious conversation about world affairs.
Wouldn’t that be nice toodle? Wouldn’t that be nice if you were knocked out and we could have big boy and girl conversations? Yeah that would be nice wouldn’t it!
August 11th, 2006 at 1:38 pmsomebody quick… credit the administration for something positive!
Comment by G.W.SuperChrist
Sorry I tried to think of something positive about Bushco, and my brain locked up on the illogic of it.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:41 pmBush evidently doess a really good job sleeping with African American women…does that count?
August 11th, 2006 at 1:41 pmbones > nope because they claim they stopped the attack > plan B would be to allow it to happen, or for them to blow up planes by our own Black Op teams!
August 11th, 2006 at 1:42 pmIn a masochistic kind of way? It fit in with your leaders.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:43 pmactually, I think MA should find a reputable article stating that bush has done SOMETHING positive.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:44 pmEine wirklich super Seite!
August 11th, 2006 at 1:45 pmMA, Bush rides a bike like no President ever has (I understand that he even puts playing cards in the spokes to make it sound tough) and he’s set the record, that he was aiming for when taking office, for most vacation days ever taken by a President. Mission accomplished.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:46 pmOK, so there’s two things we give Georgie positive accolades for, I’m waiting for the thump and then the silence.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:48 pmI consider the rest of this month and all of September to be too dangerous to travel on airliners to anywhere > I do not want to die as a shill to help prop up the Bush Regime! Americans should refuse to travel for the next 2 months > that would scare the crap out of the airline CEOs and they would scream at Bush for ruining their industry! On the other hand more people would drive their cars for travel, which would use more gasoline, so the Oil Cartel CEOs would make even more profits > we the people lose regardless!
August 11th, 2006 at 1:48 pmI heard that a lot of Bush Derangement Syndrome is going around here.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:49 pmThere is no known cure for BDS.
If only Al Gore would have won Tennessee his home state things would be so different.
OT,
Richardson asks Leiberman to step aside. Good, lets get more of this.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:52 pmIs BDS similar to CDS? (Clinton derangement Syndrome)
August 11th, 2006 at 1:53 pmGeorge W Bush.
Keeping America safe from Toothpaste and Pimple Cream.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:53 pmhttp://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1225453,00.html
August 11th, 2006 at 1:54 pm#32
LOL! No that’s funny!
August 11th, 2006 at 1:56 pm#37
Jay thinks 9/11 was planned by the Bush administration.
August 11th, 2006 at 1:58 pmWORFEUS > If you see an Arabic guy with a suitcase full of toothpaste at the airport then run for your life > lol > trying to be funny, but Bush makes me upchuck!
August 11th, 2006 at 1:58 pmWhat’s this? Did the Bush Admin say that a law enforcement approach is effective? I thought we were supposed to send Stryker brigades into the neighborhoods where the terrorists live. Didn’t they pillory John Kerry for advocating a law enforcement approach? Didn’t they say a military response is the only effective course of action? What’s with the mexed missages Mr President?
August 11th, 2006 at 1:59 pm[W]e have learned that President Bush first learned about this developing terrorist plot on Sunday. That is when he had a video conference call with Prime Minister Blair.
BubbleHead: Hmmm, lets get my pal Tony to order the searches and arrests on the day the media is going explode with the news that Lieberman was kicked to the curb by the voters of Conneticutt.
Yeah, yeah, thats it. I may be soft on terra but I can make this work in my favor.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:00 pmI think everyone who voted for Bush should be given a plane ticket to Iraq so they can see first hand what they voted for.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:00 pm#55 yeah, sorry trying to be funny. Didn’t want to start up any flashbacks for him or anything.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:00 pmTracy we all know you are a Bush lover, so get on over to the Crawford Texas ranch with your knee-pads > lol.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:00 pm#57, well I guess the difference is the only oil in the suburbs of London is in petrol stations, so law enforcement is ok.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:02 pmThe funniest part is that Bill O’Rielly has stated that the reason this plot was foiled was because they used the FISA court WITH WARRANTS. So, the arguement of FISA is too slow in blown out the window. FISA worked and it helped stop the latest terrorist plot. Ha ha.
Warrantless wiretapping is illegal and doesn’t help stop terrorist plots any better than doing it the legal way.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:02 pmAnd their is this one:
BushCo had nothing to do with this.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:03 pmThe White House devise plots they don’t break them up.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:04 pmThat shoudl be “the illegal way”
August 11th, 2006 at 2:05 pmLooky here:
Crooks and Liars
August 11th, 2006 at 2:07 pm[...] discover the plot to blow up airplanes with liquid explosives, step right up and take a bow…uh..not you George [...]
August 11th, 2006 at 2:08 pmNote: If you are an Avon lady who travels with a suitcase full of cosmetic products and shampoos, then be warned you will probably be arrested as a terrorist, or gunned down like the Brazilian guy in London > this is an important message from Chertoff the Homeland fool > lol.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:08 pm#51
August 11th, 2006 at 2:10 pmYes it is!
Did you lose your tin foil hat?
Tracy we all know you are a Bush lover, so get on over to the Crawford Texas ranch with your knee-pads > lol.
i think it would be bending over.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:12 pmThe following is from John Conyer’s blog. It sums up everything nicely.
The British Intelligence service, MI-5, deserves heaps of praise for uncovering the plot to bomb airliners departing from London. What is very disturbing, however, is learning that the White House had planned to profit politically from this event well before the arrests were made public.
What kind of an indictment of the American media that we need to look to a French newspaper to report on the details of the White House plan. From the Agence France-Presse [by way of AmericaBlog:
Weighed down by the unpopular war in Iraq, Bush and his aides have tried to shift the national political debate from that conflict to the broader and more popular global war on terrorism ahead of November 7 congressional elections....
His remarks came a day after the White House orchestrated an exceptionally aggressive campaign to tar opposition Democrats as weak on terrorism, knowing what Democrats didn't: News of the plot could soon break.
We learn more of the White House's plans:
[A] senior White House official said that the British government had not launched its raid until well after Cheney held a highly unusual conference call with reporters to attack the Democrats as weak against terrorism….
And still more indications of the motive at play here:
“Weeks before September 11th, this is going to play big,” said another White House official, who also spoke on condition of not being named, adding that some Democratic candidates won’t “look as appealing” under the circumstances.
Why can’t the Republican party put the safety of American citizens first? Why do Republicans first think of political advantage when our nation is at risk? It’s time for leadership that will boldly fight terrorism and bolster our homeland security instead of promoting fear as a political prop.
[from: http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000525.htm ]
The Bush Cabal is trying to spin the arrests in the UK to it’s own advantage. The political “momentum” that the MonkeyPalace is trying to generate won’t last the month. By November, it’ll be dead (if he had any political momentum in the first place, that is).
August 11th, 2006 at 2:14 pmNah PJ,
I am so suave and good looking, that a tinfoil hat would mess up my hair.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:15 pmI should have bolded the following:
Why can’t the Republican party put the safety of American citizens first? Why do Republicans first think of political advantage when our nation is at risk? It’s time for leadership that will boldly fight terrorism and bolster our homeland security instead of promoting fear as a political prop.
I would love to hear WingNuts defend against this. Really I would. Their mojo is long gone.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:15 pmSomething positive about Bush… hmm….
August 11th, 2006 at 2:16 pmI know! George W. Bush is a good bad example.
The only people left supporting Bush are those like PJ and MA who simply cannot recalibrate reality based on incoming data. I think these people literally are head cases: they have an open circuit somewhere in their brain.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:18 pmAnother note: Sorry for the inconvenience of traveling on airlines, with dirty teeth, bad breath, greasy hair, body oder, no makeup, etc. > we at Homeland Security Department apologize for making all your lives even more hellish > lol.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:20 pmall should realize by now that less than 1/3 of the country, regardless of party, support bush and the republican policies currently. the only support the guy has currently are the die-hard, violent, and far right fringe wingnuts.
in the political spectrum, leaning too far right perpetuates fascism.
americans dispise fascist so much they fought a world war over the subject. hopefully americans can deal with the remaining bush loyalist as the traitors to the constitution that they are.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:24 pm#15 So I don’t know where [Osama bin Laden] is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. …And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.
White House, Mar. 13, 2002
I’m still waiting for those damn weapons of mass destruction to appear. Saddams trial is in recess and still we wait and wait and wait……..
August 11th, 2006 at 2:27 pmthinkprogress just posted a new headline off the mainpage.
i think it’s even a POSITIVE comment how the US reached a deal with France.
is that head hitting ground i hear?
August 11th, 2006 at 2:28 pm#72 (and 74) Good find. That’s the message – they’ve been sitting on this for days. Why didn’t they issue the ban on liquids when they first heard about this? Why did they wait 5 days to announce the ban? Because protecting the lives of American passangers is less important than scoring political points. Truly disgusting.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:31 pmWe should just all fly NUDE – I mean really!
August 11th, 2006 at 2:39 pmJCGoW
August 11th, 2006 at 2:39 pmI think it is impossible for repugs to view anything outside of a political framework friendly to their own point of view..
I’m still waiting for those damn weapons of mass destruction to appear.
didn’t you hear – some of our resident trolls said they found them.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:42 pmLOL, #82
August 11th, 2006 at 2:42 pmI have been saying that very thing for some time now believing that that is the direction in which we are headed.
Everyone will cue up behind a screen, put their clothing in a bag, don a paper hospital gown type of outfit before boarding. Body cavity searches will follow.
Post 82 > can you imagine all the ugly fat men in the nude, and women with sagging breasts > boy you have to hope the person in the next seat is a Playboy bunny centerfold > lol.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:44 pmMarie – I’ve flown a few times since since 9/11, and have learned to already have my jewelry in a bag, I wear sandals so I don’t hold up the line to take off my shoes, I try my best to look as unassuming as possible, and PRAY like hell they don’t pull me out of line to check my check-in baggage. I have still seen people taken out of the check-in counter line, so that the “officials” can rifle through their belongings.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:46 pmB-b-b-b-but the conservabots were crawling all over my Tee-Vee last night telling me the bust was made thanks to all that wire-tapping liberals have been whining about.
They wouldn’t lie to me … would they?
August 11th, 2006 at 2:47 pm.
When the airlines make you wear hospital gowns, with your butt exposed,and you bend over for a cavity search, then I will never fly on a plane ever again > I am glad I have been to Europe already and most of the Caribbean > will I can still go to the islands by boat anyways > lol.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:48 pmwhat I miss, is getting off a flight and having my loved ones right there to greet me as soon as I walk into the terminal from the plane. those days are OVER.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:50 pmand what is even more infuriating is the fact that they CHARGE you $30 to take your children to the gate (if they’re flying alone – like mine have),
August 11th, 2006 at 2:53 pm#85 – Everyone will cue up behind a screen, put their clothing in a bag, don a paper hospital gown type of outfit before boarding. Body cavity searches will follow.
Do not tell suave and good looking Krazny. He’ll get exited.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:54 pmNot really PJ, sadly the average body, is not that fantastic. Now if I was in in line with Hefner and crew then I would get excited.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:57 pmChertoff is in his place today because of his involvement in the Liberty event years ago. He is no more qualified to be Homeland Chief than I am.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:58 pmHS is a failure, an example of Bush&Co incompetence and ineptitude.
This plot was foiled through grunt work, police work, and diligence.
Bush’s method is bomb, kill, destroy everything in their path as they chase their tails, shred the Constitution, instill fear, divide the populace into elites and serfs, and otherwise enact big brother.
Airlines actually never liked dealing with luggage, so expect to fly with absolutely nothing, but your wallet soon > you will be forced to buy clothes and hygiene products at your destination, then throw them in the trash before your return flight > forget the whole damn thing I will only drive my car for vacations, but I suppose they will probably make us drive in the nude too > lol.
August 11th, 2006 at 2:58 pmSuper wealthy people will be given the only right to fly clothed, and with luggage, for much higher priced tickets, but regular Americans > no luggage, no clothes, no personal hygiene products, and no food too > just a can of sour soda is all we will get, plus more cramped seating as well!
August 11th, 2006 at 3:14 pmthey’ve been sitting on this for days. Why didn’t they issue the ban on liquids when they first heard about this? Why did they wait 5 days to announce the ban? Because protecting the lives of American passangers is less important than scoring political points. Truly disgusting.
ToonGuy, I think the dudes plotting the attacks would have been tipped off if the ban occurred before the plot was foiled and thus enabling them to go into hiding.
I think the ban on carryon should have been done long ago and could have been done in a more logical and helpful manner than just out of the blue.
I just thought of something. If you can’t bring carry on lugguge then all the overhead compartments could come down. They could redesign the cabin and perhaps gain some space for us economy flyers. Oh wait, they’ll just cram another row of seats on top! LOL
August 11th, 2006 at 3:20 pmLets just impeach the Hater-Creator and fly wearing and drinking whatever we want.
August 11th, 2006 at 3:24 pmWe should just all fly NUDE – I mean really!
Comment by madashell
This is a great Idea!
But we will have to install butt gaket dispensers [As in restrooms] to keep from sitting in the previous passengers skidmarks =)
Way to expensive and messy…Maybe then we should make all passengers strip naked and wear ‘Depends’ so no one has to ever leave their assigned seats?
August 11th, 2006 at 3:28 pmI don’t see why anyone deserves any credit for this. Frankly, British officials knew four months ago that liquid explosives were a potential threat on commercial airlines and did nothing. Why was it okay to bring hair gel and toothpaste on four months ago, when they first had knowledge of this plot but suddenly, yesterday, hair gel and toothpaste are a horrifying threat? And why, if all these products and beverages are a threat, are officals asking passengers to dump everything into the same trash barrel? Mix that many chemicals together without safety precautions and you may end up with an explosion in the airport terminal/
August 11th, 2006 at 3:32 pmWe should just all fly NUDE – I mean really!
Comment by madashell — August 11, 2006 @ 2:39 pm
That is one very unsettling idea.
There people out there I only want to see under several layers of clothing…
Just sayin’
August 11th, 2006 at 3:34 pmThe Brits did an excellent job and deserve full recognition on this. They did a very good job.
August 11th, 2006 at 3:36 pmwow you mean those wiretaps and other surveillance really works?!
that is great… if only we could get that over hear… oh wait we do… the NYT told us so… but we shouldn’t be using it eventhough it is legal… cause after all the government is really wanting to know as much about you as your credit companies and phone solicitors already do. But it is perfectly ok to own our healthcare…
I wonder if you all have forgotten that the UK has some different rules they play by in getting the bad guys… like profiling, no true property rights, sneak and peak, no written constitution, parliament system etc… and ironically they are more liberal over there than you. All while dealing with the IRA… my hats off to the UK
i can’t wait till the trials… guitly to till proven innocent.
#49 If Al Gore had won, 9/11, katrina, a recession, still no KEOTO would have still happend,
August 11th, 2006 at 3:37 pm#49 If Al Gore had won, 9/11, katrina, a recession, still no KEOTO would have still happend,
Comment by Joneser
You didn’t mention the Iraq quagmire. That would not have happened. Also, the $300 billion we spent on Iraq would have gone into renewable energy research. Now imagine what could have come of that. Instead, we have Prudoe Bay and 2,600 dead soldiers.
Also, it’s arguable whether Gore would have taken a month vacation and ignored the massive intel chatter the summer before 9/11.
August 11th, 2006 at 3:51 pmIn short: good police work by Scotland Yard catches crooks, not wasting 1/2 trillion in Iraq.
August 11th, 2006 at 3:51 pm#19 — murder/suicide. I am deeply amused. Laugh of the day. Bravo!
August 11th, 2006 at 3:55 pmThe only credit Bush gets is for having a discussion with Blair over what Blair should do the night of Lamont’s victory in CT, and then deciding that it would serve Bush Perpetual War fear tactics by raising the rainbow terror alert code for the first time since Bush “won” the 2004 election.
It conveniently distracted the focus of the media everywhere to this lame “threat” in the UK and away from both Lamont’s victory, Lieberman’s defeat, and surprise, a new poll just came out this week with Bush at his lowest approval rating.
But that’s okay. Expect more of the same fearmongering from the Bush White House all the way up to the elections, as the failures in the administration try to scare some voters away from the polls and scare the core republican base back to the polls to help keep the republicans in power in Congress.
August 11th, 2006 at 3:58 pm#100 Ann
August 11th, 2006 at 3:58 pmYour comments are right on.
Actually, in the mid-90’s it was known that explosives could be made from these innocuous items. A similar plot was foiled in 1996.
And as for dumping items into containers at the terminals yesterday — talk about the potential for a hazardous concoction!
82…
sounds to me you are a victim of being part of an egalitarian group…
isn’t that utopia? We are all equally capable and motivated to blowing up planes, cafes, synagogues, community centers, schools, israel, buses, embasseys (sp), subways, office buildings, participating or ocndoning violent protests, waving anti bush banners, and burning amercian flags…
ooops scratch the last three…
another government beaurocracy at work! Lets add HHD Homeland Healthcare Department too!
August 11th, 2006 at 4:05 pm#102 – Dear Gay Cubbie – Perhaps you live in London or Madrid – but if you live in the US, merciful God, we have not been attacked again, yet… I don’t think it’s a lack of terror cells throwing in the towel – I think programs adopted to monitor calls from outside the country and check banking transactions (like politics, money is the mother’ milk of terrorism…) WHICH were BLASTED by PROGS here, there and everywhere – demonstrate the impotence of a “Progresseive Security Plan” – such an oxymoron!!
August 11th, 2006 at 4:13 pmanother government beaurocracy at work! Lets add HHD Homeland Healthcare Department too!
Comment by Joneser — August 11, 2006 @ 4:05
How about Operation No War Profiteer Left Behind? That’s a Bush program that’s going swimmingly -as in swimming in tax-payer boodle. Ain’t it a shame that republicans killed the concept of “fiscal conservatism” in six short years?
August 11th, 2006 at 4:18 pm105…
Gore was a product of Clinton… and if he was of any indication of defending national security, i don’t think it would happen. Besides I do beleive Gore failed out of seminary school? Am I to assume he was a dumbass?
Clinton ignored every sign available during his presidency and he even bombed a country that had a genocidal dictator, was no threat to it’s neighbors, had no WMD, and stated it was a “moral imperative” to stop him all with only a few nations backing and without the UN… then found out intelligence was faulty as to how many were killed… and we still have troops there. Interesting.
August 11th, 2006 at 4:18 pm“Thank goodness our friends and allies did not desert us during our civil war”.-comment by Mighty Aphrodite- August 3, 2006 @ 3:22 pm.
August 11th, 2006 at 4:25 pm
112…
you are right… it is a shame the republicans are spending so much on government crap… if they raised my taxes i’d finally be forced to call them democrats…. but then again as an example..
i’d take $5000 dollar debt while making $50,000 a year than $5000 dollars and only making $25,000, there is a difference
August 11th, 2006 at 4:29 pmBushCo spies on us, taps our phones, goes through our banking records, monitors our internet usage, basically totally invades our privacy, anytime they want, without our knowledge, or consent. All in the name of “keeping us safe”, or so they tell us. And when the British foil a terrorist plot, every single American who is travelling by air, is presumed to be a terrorist, cleverly concealing explosives in a juice box, or can of hairspray. Is this BushCo’s way of letting us know that they have blown it again? Have some terrorists managed to elude the eagle eyes of, well, of everyone who was supposed to be watching? Oh, dear. Well I guess we will ALL know in the next few weeks, won’t we? Nah, they will just ‘classify’ anything that would prove that they boo-booed, … again. They could not SUCK anymore if they TRIED!
August 11th, 2006 at 4:30 pm114
if i am to use that analogy
then i guess columbine and the rest of the school shootings shows the ineptness of the democrats with the public school system?
August 11th, 2006 at 4:32 pm# 106
“In short: good police work by Scotland Yard catches crooks, not wasting 1/2 trillion in Iraq.”
Yes Let’s just sit and wait for the next attempt to blow your butt up.
August 11th, 2006 at 4:34 pmThe Islamofacists are not done yet. They’ll be back!
Man damn right PJ, I think you should load up with a few guns and cheerios, and head on over to the middle east and kill you some AAAAARRRAAABBBBBS.
woohoooo.
August 11th, 2006 at 4:38 pmThe Islamofacists are not done yet. They’ll be back!
Comment by PJ
So you admit that the Iraqi war has failed miserably as a pre-emptive fight against terrorrism on our soil! Very Good PJ. Now let’s bring our troops home!!!!!!
August 11th, 2006 at 4:39 pmOne more time. The progressives are not opposed to the wiretaps themselves – they are opposed to wiretaps WITHOUT warrants. Get a warrant, how hard is that?
August 11th, 2006 at 4:41 pmcyra… are you advocating profiling (gasp)
ANd british intelligence does the same things and in some cases worse…
August 11th, 2006 at 4:44 pmAnd if “BUSHCO” was so concerned with your records and used them against where is your lawsuit? could you please show me where? Nevermind the judges involved in many of the bills (during the clinton administration) see nothing unconstitutional…
120….
August 11th, 2006 at 4:45 pmwell i guess we know what KRAZNY thinks of our troops mentality?
well i guess we know what KRAZNY thinks of our troops mentality?
Comment by Joneser — August 11, 2006 @ 4:45 pm
NO that is what I think about your mentality.
Our troops are better trained. I do think that the longer US troops are stationed in a high stress, situation like Iraq, that the chances of individuals snapping, and doing something bad increases.
August 11th, 2006 at 4:47 pmHey Progs,
August 11th, 2006 at 4:48 pmIf you guys cannot win this 2008 Presidential election you might think about changing some things.
You really should have won in 2004.
(Hint) Do not use the stolen election bullsh*t anymore.
Grow some cajones too.
Our troops are sitting ducks in Iraq between the Holy Shites and the Sunnis.
August 11th, 2006 at 4:50 pmCome and join me Krazny in Iraq?
August 11th, 2006 at 4:53 pm#
Our troops are sitting ducks in Iraq between the Holy Shites and the Sunnis.
Comment by PJ — August 11, 2006 @ 4:50 pm
When did you figure that out PJ? between your bottle and your nap time?
Speaking of cajones, how is your enlistment going?
August 11th, 2006 at 4:54 pmKill Islamofacist not Arabs.
August 11th, 2006 at 4:55 pmShow me yours first.
August 11th, 2006 at 4:57 pmSounds a little Homoerotic to me there PJ, don’t know why you would want to see my cajones.
August 11th, 2006 at 5:02 pmCause your said you were so suave and good looking.
August 11th, 2006 at 5:07 pmIs it not time for your latte break?
so because I am suave and good looking, you want to see my balls. Perhaps you should talk to Dan Savage, or come out of the closet or something.
August 11th, 2006 at 5:09 pmThey will always be honoured for their sacrifice and what they volunteered to do… and no doubt iraq has been a tough issue… they are men and women not boys and girls and when they come home i hope there is a true discussion with them and their thoughts and that they aren’t forgotten about…. for every reporter who put those microphones in Sheehan’s face will put those same microphones in the face of those who served with him… the same microphones… with those who survived an IED while giving children candy… the same ones who found all the mass graves… the same ones who uncovered the documents leading to the oil for food scandel…. i am willing to bet the overwhelming majority believe in their mission and the fight against the true evils in this world.
August 11th, 2006 at 5:10 pmAll the chumps on the rupublican a.m. radio shows thursday could’nt give enough credit to the US intel , these people lie about stuff that’s easy fact check .
August 11th, 2006 at 5:11 pmLet’s pause a moment and review….
In 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by: (a) A salesman from Utah (b) An construction worker (c) A college student on Spring Break (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were killed at the Munich Olympics
by: (a) Your grandmother (b) A Midwest auto-parts dealer (c) A mom and her 6-year-old son visiting from Indiana (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by: (a) A bluegrass band (b) Dallas Cowboy fans (c) A tour group of 80-year-old women (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
During the 1980’s numerous Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon
by: (a) A family on their way to Disney World (b) Jesse Ventura
(c) A Boy Scout Troop (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by: (a) A pizza delivery boy (b) The UPS guy (c) Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked, and a 70-year-old disabled American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by: (a) A girls’ choir (b) A hardware store owner (c) A secretary (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy diver was murdered by: (a) A Marine officer with two weeks leave
(b) A plumber going to visit his mom (c) A Catholic nun (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by: (a) A college-bound freshman (b) A cardiac surgeon on his way to Houston (c) A waitress (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by: (a) A starving actress (b) A mom with a newborn (c) Twin six-year-old boys (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1995, a plot to blow up U.S.-bound international flights over the Pacific was attempted by (a) Hawaiian school kids (b) An decorated Vietnam Veteran (c) Twin sisters on their way to Paducah (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
(a) A local TV weatherman (b) A dad and his two sons on a ski trip (c) A widower going to visit his grandchildren (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2000, 17 sailors died in an attack on the USS Cole (DDG 67) in Yemen by: (a) A child in a stroller (b) A high school class on their way to visit Washington, DC (c) Newlyweds on their way to Miami (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked — two flown into the World Trade Centers, one into the Pentagon and one into the ground in rural Pennsylvania. They were hijacked by: (a) A retired police officer on a mission trip to Haiti (b) A firefighter going to Maryland for training (c) An paramedic on his way to vacation in Hawaii (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2002 the United States liberated Afghanistan from: (a) USAID relief workers (b) Jewish Pilgrims (c) Christian missionaries (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl and other Westerners were kidnapped and beheaded by: (a) The Peace Corp (b) Scottish clansmen (c) Cuban refugees (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2002, more than 330 hostages in Beslan and 130 hostages in Moscow were murdered in sieges by: (a) Russian exchange students
(b) The Red Guard (c) Church planters (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2003 the United States liberated Iraq from “The Butcher of Baghdad,” but most American military personnel were killed by:
(a) Iraqi school-girls (b) Street vegetable venders (c) Women without burkas (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2004, more than 200 Spanish civilians were murdered on trains by bombs in Madrid, detonated by: (a) Morning commuters (b) A three-year-old Chinese girl (c) Flamenco dancers (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2005 more than 50 UK citizens were killed by bombs on trains in London, detonated by: (a) Rail workers (b) Those unable to hail taxis (c) Wheelchair-bound grandmothers (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2005, there were hundreds of casualties, men, women and children, killed by bombs in Jerusalem, Riyadh and Amman. These innocent civilians were murdered by: (a) Construction workers (b) Farmers (c) Christian missionaries (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2005, the city of Paris, and other European cities experienced an extended period of riots and destruction. The unrest was led
by: (a) “Youth” (b) Soccer fans (c) Catholic nuns (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
Since the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom, more than 2,500 Americans have been murdered by terrorists. 35,000 Iraqi men, women and children have also been murdered by terrorists. Most of the combat and civilians casualties were the result of bombs detonated in civilian population centers by: (a) Fruit vendors in Baghdad (b) Disgruntled transit union workers (c) Iraqi schoolteachers (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2006, hundreds of Israeli civilians have been killed by rockets launched by: (a) the Salvation Army (b) remnants of the ‘Jackson Five’ (c) the cast of ‘Friends’ (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2006, a plot to blow up 10 U.S.-bound planes from the U.K. was attempted by (a) members of the royal family (b) Japanese tourists (c) groupies of the band ‘Cream’ (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
Since 2001, the FBI reports that there are major terrorist cells still in U.S. urban centers. Several of these cells have been uncovered and cell members arrested. In every case, the terrorists cell members were: (a) Southern Baptists Conventioneers (b) Lutheran Youth Groups (c) Presbyterian Elders
August 11th, 2006 at 5:13 pm(d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40
the logic of racism, simply amazing…
August 11th, 2006 at 5:17 pmThe neocon “Om” = “progressives/liberals won’t protect America”. They have hynotized themselves with this self-delusion and try to hypnotize everyone else with it. The lie about progressives/liberals statements that don’t match the “om” = wiretapping, getting OBL, monitoring bank records, etc.
August 11th, 2006 at 5:20 pm#137
It appears you put alot of time and effort to “make a funny” What was your point regarding this thread again?
August 11th, 2006 at 5:21 pmYou’re humping the wrong leg their PJ, I have never doubted, that there are Islamic religious extremists, who will kill anyone who does gets in their way. My doubts concern how we have approached the war on terror. A strong unilateral force, to track, arrest, or kill cells, and supporters is necessary in our world if we wish to survive. However hamstringing the army, destroying moral, dumping trillions of dollars into Iraq, and alienating our allies has not made us one iota safer.
This is a war that needs to be fought by intelligence services, police, and other anti-crime units, and using mobile and effective military special ops units. The very nature of your enemy is international, and so should the effort to destroy them.
August 11th, 2006 at 5:24 pmAnd after Krazny called PJ on his homoerotic tendencies, PJ decides to deflect, distract and change the subject to (what else?) those big, bad, Muslims.
Me thinks PJ is secretly attracted to MiddleEastern men betwen the ages of 17 and 40, you know, the thrill of living dangerously and all…
August 11th, 2006 at 5:24 pm#136
We you applauding when we the US busted up the chicago and new york plots? Or was that “BUSHCO” lining his pockets again? Or violating the powers of the excutive branch? Or civil liberties…
August 11th, 2006 at 5:25 pmThe poodle dropped a bone in Dubya’s lap. He chewed on it a bit, licked at the marrow, showed it Dead Eye and Turd Blossom. They all decided to play it like the bone the ape man in “2001″ used to bash the brains out of his rivals.
manipulative low lifes
August 11th, 2006 at 5:27 pmpj you just went through alot of trouble telling us something we already knew , here is something you might not know , there was never an investigation into 9-11 , you guys talked about it alot , but no investigation , and don’t go and say the 9-11 comission did , they were a joke just like the Warren comisssion was .
August 11th, 2006 at 5:32 pmShould Robert Kennedy’s assassination really be counted as a terrorist attack? I was always under the impression the dude was totally wacko.
August 11th, 2006 at 5:35 pmyou are right… it is a shame the republicans are spending so much on government crap… if they raised my taxes i’d finally be forced to call them democrats…. but then again as an example..
. . . of weak-minded reasoning? Your post vividly demonstrates just how laughable “conservative” has become. Just ignore the national debt, it’s not you that will be paying it off, that’ll be the task of your grandkids (unless you’re fixed). Do you think they’ll be happy learning you had their cake – and ate it too? They’ll read about conservatism in their history books and wonder how anyone could have intellectually bought into a dogma so corrupt, so full of internal inconsistencies, and illogic; and that bankrupted the country while bankrolling millionaires – and stuck them with the bill.
i’d take $5000 dollar debt while making $50,000 a year than $5000 dollars and only making $25,000, there is a difference
Comment by Joneser — August 11, 2006 @ 4:29
Paid for by future generations. It’s called “eating the seed corn,” in the farm belt.
August 11th, 2006 at 5:39 pmYes, MA is back to flinging feces and chirping like an chimpanzee with psoriasis. The argument about wiretaps was that it was done outside of FISA which provided the ability for the idiot dauphine to tap til his little heart’s content, even without having to obtain a prior warrant, so long as one was sought after the fact.
Yes, the morally bankrupt party of the “rule of law” only follows that ala carte when it is convenient and politically expedient.
Now back to your monkey cage you piece of rotting filth.
August 11th, 2006 at 5:42 pm#102 – Dear Gay Cubbie – Perhaps you live in London or Madrid – but if you live in the US, merciful God, we have not been attacked again, yet…
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 11, 2006 @ 4:13 pm
Mighty, that “Cubbie” reference is too cute. Don’t you go making the Mister jealous now with your flirtatious ways. You animal! You ignore the big picture here which is UNDER THE BUSH REGIME, America was attacked. Bush ignored all the warnings. Bush allowed it to happen. I blame Bush for this quagmire we’ve been in since he stole the presidency in 2000, and then again in 2004. Be honest, if it were a Democrat in office and the exact same scenario happened, you’d be denouncing that Democratic President until the cows come home. Bush made the mess we’re in today, and rather than clean it up, he makes it messier.
August 11th, 2006 at 6:07 pmTHE PLOT IS BULLSHIT SO FAR – WHAT GUILTY OF CARRYING LUCAZADE DRINKS COME ON
Its a ploy to stop tony blair being recalled off his holidays , as 120 labour MPs alone want him to stop meddling with bush to stop a ceasefire in Lebanon——
THIS PLOT IS BULLSHIT BULLSHIT
August 11th, 2006 at 6:10 pmGay Bear,
Mighty is just worried that her hubby will toss her for you. I bet he is into the “manly” types.
August 11th, 2006 at 6:12 pmDid G. W. Dummy cancel his vacation immediately to lead the nation in this time of crisis?
August 11th, 2006 at 6:13 pm147…
i believe you replaced republican with conservative…. it’s ok you confused the two… if you notice there is a difference between a liberal/ progressive (or whatever the name will be come the 2008 election) and a democrat…
the thing is when a conservative doesn’t follow their principals, they get hurt with scandels public humiliation etc……. when a liberal doens’t follow their principals… they get a pass and they benefit… and to me… that his more hypocritical.
August 11th, 2006 at 6:17 pmMichael Moore, stock in boing and hallliburton….
Chomsky, copy rights all his material to sell, and owns property in a reserve, and trust funds to avoid inheritance tax…
Gloria Steinem preaches femnism and very anti marriage yet find a successful Alpha male and marries him.
Ralph Nader’s stock options that seem to appreciate in recipricol to the companies he tries to stop or bring down
WHAT THE BRITISH PUBLIC SAY ABOUT IT
Usman Shahid
How do we know that all these security alerts are not just to get public support for Israel and take the cameras of the Lebanon while the war crimes continue.
Gehen
Is seems a bit convenient that when both Bush and Blair are trying to convince us of how what is happening in Lebanon is justified, that they foil a so called terror attempt. I believe it all to be just a charade to justify what they are allowing to happen.
Tamara Zaky
What are Israel doing in Lebanon today? I find it more than a little convenient for the UK and the US that they should decide to take this action today.
We already know that the police and the Intelligence services are corrupt and incompetent, just look at Forest Gate. I hope that there aren’t quiet news items over the next few weeks saying that these 21 people arrested have been released one by one without charge. Thus fuelling even more hatred and maybe some actual terrorist action. This is a massive PR game and the media, including Sky are soaking it up.
More and More I get the feeling that most of the news is stage managed and not a true reflection of what is actually happening in the world.
Paul Goldsmith
Just heard your female Sky News presenter ask; What triggered the current terror alert?
Probably:
1. MPs revolting against PM before he’s completed his role in the US project to control the Middle East.
2. Israeli attack on Lebanon not going as well as planned.
3. Iraq imploding.
4. Afghanistan uncontrollable.
5. Cover for run up to inciting incident which will give US an excuse to attack Iran.
6. Media complicity in not investigating all of above.
Fortunately not all your viewers are as dozy as you obviously wish they were.
August 11th, 2006 at 6:19 pmAnon
Ronald Reagan didn’t wasn’t harmed too badly when he sold weapons to the Iranians.
August 11th, 2006 at 6:19 pmTHE PLOT IS BULLSHIT SO FAR – WHAT GUILTY OF CARRYING LUCAZADE DRINKS COME ON
Its a ploy to stop tony blair being recalled off his holidays , as 120 labour MPs alone want him to stop meddling with bush to stop a ceasefire in Lebanon——
THIS PLOT IS BULLSHIT BULLSHIT
Its a fabricated as the Americans agents getting some nut job to swear aligance to al queda and then telling him to bomb the sears tower it ALL STINK
August 11th, 2006 at 6:21 pmSo the Brits catch a break from a muslim neighbor, follow up and catch the plotters as they hatch their plot.
August 11th, 2006 at 6:29 pmIf it had been the US intel and admin, they would have let the plot happen, then bombed United, Continental and British Airways!
Little role???? How about NO ROLE. Just goes to show ya… we are less safe with a Republican controlled Congress and White House.
August 11th, 2006 at 6:35 pmEverybody I know in the UK has had enough of this story we all think its total rubbish…..spin
August 11th, 2006 at 6:35 pmI agree some with Krazny military might will not save this nation alone.
Bush knows this, but he is also fighting at home those who just want to see him fail. That’s where they put all their efforts and their hate for this president has blinded them to a real threat. I again will applaud this man and support him as president. He is not the enemy of our country.
Some progressives here sound like they are making fun of homosexuals? Hypocritical don’t you think?
August 11th, 2006 at 6:37 pmGay Bear,
Mighty is just worried that her hubby will toss her for you. I bet he is into the “manly†types.
Comment by Krazny — August 11, 2006 @ 6:12 pm
Ick.
August 11th, 2006 at 6:39 pm#158 – Coffins draped with flags
Again you maxed out the Bullsh*t Detector
August 11th, 2006 at 6:41 pmSadly PJ bush doesn’t know this. His entire plan to enter Iraq, and remove Saddam was done well outside of any need to fight terrorists. He has failed to secure our ports, or our borders over the objections of his own party. Bush has pushed nothing through on energy indepancance, instead holding hands with Saudi Princes. He has bogged down our military to the point that emerging threats, North Korea, and Iran cannot be dealt with.
I don’t hate him, he is just a fool. He has not protected or done what is in the best interest of the country. Turn off Rush for a bit, and clear your head, you might find you can think clearer.
No I wasn’t making fun of homosexuals, I was simply trying to help you come out of the closet, and be comfortable with your homosexuality. Acceptance, will set you free.
August 11th, 2006 at 6:44 pm#162 = Okay… I should have stated, Republicans are ALL BULLSHI**ERS. My apologies if I was not inclusive enough in my comments. And yes, we are less safe than before Bush&Co took control. Bush&Co continue to work very, very hard at trashing the Constitution. Then again, you don’t care about the Constitution, with the exception of the 2nd Amendment which gives all Americans the right to bear arms to form a militia.
“When the revolution comes… ” The Last Poets
August 11th, 2006 at 6:57 pmPJ – happy to know that you appreciate my posts.
August 11th, 2006 at 6:58 pmPJ,
You continue to ignore the fact that people can support the global war on terror and not support the “war” (still no declaration) in Iraq. People can support the troops and not the president.
Most people want Osama bin Laden dead. Sending 138,000 troops into Iraq is not how you capture him as proved by the terror plot foiled by the British.
August 11th, 2006 at 6:59 pmI again will applaud this man and support him as president. He is not the enemy of our country.
Comment by PJ — August 11, 2006 @
I love this statement, but you are full of bullshit. Man talk about blinders.
August 11th, 2006 at 6:59 pmBush put 138,000 troops in Iraq to capture 4 terrorists over a 3.5 year time frame, not to include the cost to the tax payers, loss of American lives, loss of Iraqi lives and injuries to both American troops and Iraqis. The UK uses “intelligence work” which requires a lot less that 100,000 people, along with some assistance from Pakistan and captures 24 terrorists that were ready to blow up planes. The UK knows how to read memos and how to follow through. Just think, if Bush had read the memo and followed through, 9/11 would be nothing more than a date on a calendar.
August 11th, 2006 at 7:07 pmAll comments by the Bush-loving trolls on this MB bear out the truth in John Dean’s book, “Conservatives Without Conscience.” These posters are classic authoritarian followers, ready at a moment’s notice to swallow any and all bullshit spewed by their Beloved Leader, Man or Monkey, and his puppetmaster, Darth Cheney.
Why don’t you all run for the safety and security of Right-Wing Corporate radio and leave the normal people in peace? Ah, I know why! You love the culture of death and corruption that the Bushites embrace.
You people make me want to vomit.
August 11th, 2006 at 9:25 pmSeveral nights ago (a day or two before the British raids rounding up possible terrorists) my roommate told me that he’d heard someone on Neal Boortz’s radio program state that August 22nd seemed to hold some significance for terrorist groups and that they would “light up the skies with fire.â€
At the time I filed this away as interesting (and thought the “fire†in the skies referred to possible rocket attacks), but it was only after the reports came in from Britain that I began to wonder if someone associated with the Bush administration was “leaking†classified information again.
The quote on Neal Boortz’s radio program sounded awfully like something our intelligence services had intercepted while monitoring some possible terrorist group. And the August 22nd date sounds like part of the terrorist timeline for the planned bombing of trans-Atlantic flights.
Now, I don’t know who this guest was on Boortz’s radio program (from either Monday or Tuesday earlier this week) and my roommate couldn’t remember his name, but I just wonder what this guest knew about this airplane bombing plot and from whom did he get his information?
Because it looks to me like he revealed classified information about an ongoing terrorist investigation, maybe even precipitating the need for the British authorities to act before they were ready.
In other words, apparently this investigation had been going on for about eight months, with the British and Pakistani authorities keeping potential terrorists under surveillance, whlie trying to uncover even more potential terrorists. Apparently, the British and Pakistani counter-terrorism authorities kept the United States out of the loop until this past Sunday, after which the Bush administration started leaking, leaking, leaking.
This disclosure on Neal Boortz’s program, just days before the British raids, seems too much like something staged by the Republicans for political purposes…while once again actually endangering our efforts in the war on terror.
Outing Valerie Plame. Outing the Khan guy over in Pakistan. Downgrading the counter-terrorism office before 9/11. The pattern of criminal negligence on the part of the Republicans and the Bush administration is staggering.
We definitely need a change in direction in America. The Republicans have failed us time and again. Their politicized, incredibly inept policies have actually jeopardized all the children of our great nation. Republicans have placed their party above our Constitution, above our Bill of Rights, above our nation’s security, both domestic and foreign. It is time for a change…before it’s too late.
August 11th, 2006 at 10:16 pmI think what is needed at US airports is separate security checkins for Bush lovers and everybody else! At the Bush lover lines all their luggage would be ripped open, spilled on the ground, then most of it thrown into the trash! Then they would be forced to strip nude for full body cavity searches, then get herded onto the planes like cattle! At their destinations they would be pushed off the jets using cattle prods! GOP fools are scared of terrorists, so treat them like pathetic idiots!
August 12th, 2006 at 3:25 amAin’t it a shame that republicans killed the concept of “fiscal conservatism†in six short years?
Comment by Barfly — August 11, 2006 @ 4:18 pm
i believe you replaced republican with conservative…. it’s ok you confused the two… if you notice there is a difference between a liberal/ progressive (or whatever the name will be come the 2008 election) and a democrat…
I believe you don’t know what you’re talking about. There is no “fiscal republicanism” is there? There are also no differences between “republican values” and “conservative values” are there? The past few years have shown there are no moderate republicans, only conservatives who mouth moderate pieties, and then vote with the rest of the rubberstamps – so your point about the difference between liberals and democrats and the difference between republicans and conservatives is inapt.
August 12th, 2006 at 4:02 amTERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR
August 12th, 2006 at 5:58 amTHE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR! THE SKY IS FALLING! TERROR!
August 12th, 2006 at 9:15 amLeave it to the Republicans to capitalize on someone elses work!!! The Bush administration couldn’t uncover a stone let alone a terrorist plot. But they’re always willing to make political hay out of anything to make them look good-which they need all the help they can get!!!!!!!!
August 12th, 2006 at 9:49 amAphrodite and all of you other brainless righties– this article does nothing but tell the truth, which, of course, you can’t stand. The truth does the same thing to conservatives that sunlight does to maggots.
August 12th, 2006 at 10:42 amAm I missing something? Did our leaders know of this latest plot and the types of explosives to be used for at least a week before they took any action? Was the safety of millions of airline passengers was secondary to the completion of the investigation by the British? Now that the plotters have been arrested and the scheme broken up, the actions at the airports are critically needed? However, during the investigation these precautions were unwarranted?
Somehow I just don’t have a “warm and fuzzy” feeling about how safe it is to fly. Apparently it is much more important to get the bad guys before you protect the people.
WHAT ELSE DO THEY KNOW AND AREN’T REACTING TO?
August 12th, 2006 at 11:56 ambush has already failed.
he failed the nation on katrina.
he still fails the nation on katrina.
he failed the nation on 911.
August 12th, 2006 at 1:20 pmI read some of the crazy person blogs (Republican) and one was giving an example of how “in danger” we are with the cell phone story in Michigan, yet when I go a read about it, it’s all about this guy that had about 1000 prepaid cell phones in the back of his van that he was going to sell to make money. But then this ultra-frightened, paranoid police chief has them held on “terrorism charges” and the cross-eyed, likely Republican police chief was trying to explain his paraniod delusions: “terrorist use cell phones as detonators”, “terrorists use prepaid cell phones because you can’t track them”
Kind of explains that these Republicans have more paranoid fantasy in their minds than common sense. Just look at the Iraq war, a complete exercise in paranoia. We know who attacked us on 9/11, but let’s attack Iraq instead?
August 12th, 2006 at 11:55 pmIRAQ IS A DISTRACTION FROM THE WAR ON TERROR.
We need to bring our troops home and stop the insurgency, which is only rising because our troops are there. These insurgents are of every stripe, including Iraqis that feel betrayed.
We will be Peacemakers again, and open diplomatic relations with Syria — who reached out to help us after 911.
Some good arguments on how we can be strong democrats at LydiaCornell.com
August 13th, 2006 at 2:46 ambein president of america and a group of middle eastern terrorists at the same time is just like bein a double knot spy! — George W Bush, double knot spy
August 13th, 2006 at 12:21 pmMadashell~Jay Randal
August 14th, 2006 at 12:11 amNovember Predictions:
Another Al Qaeda Attack
Another Bin Laden Video
Another Rigged Election
Another Republican Sponsored Supreme Court Decision
August 14th, 2006 at 3:11 amThe Bush administration had little to do with this except that they pressured the British to expose this one day after the Lamont-Lieberman primary where Lamont won.
The Bush administration wanted to time the exposure and take credit for it although they had little to do with it to politically assasinate Ned Lamont and the Democratic party on national defense and national security.
I REMIND EVERYONE OF YOU THAT 9-11 attacks and the deaths of 2750 people happened UNDER BUSH’s AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY’s WATCH.
NOW Who appears weak on terror, national defense and national security? THE REPUBLICANS.
Tell this to the press and every swing voter and independent voter you see.
August 14th, 2006 at 3:47 am…….america is to blame….blah blah blah….america is to blame….blah blah blah…..Bush is the devil…..blah blah….Rove will eat you babies if you give him the chance……blah blah blah….WE planned 9/11…blah blah blah….All the hurricanes and other natural occuring weather patterns have been caused within the past six years…blah blah blah…..Religion=Satan….blah blah blah…..terrorism is not as big of a problem as most people think…blah blah blah….Cheney’s daughter is gay because he abused her….blah blah blah…..Gore won!!! Blah blah blah…..Kerry was defeated by a bunch of religious fanatics….blah blah blah……Cindy Sheehan should never be questioned….blah blah blah…..the main-stream media is in Bushs back pocket….blah blah blah….Saddam was running a tidy little country…..blah blah blah….Israel has over-reached……blah blah blah……the failure of american schools is all Bushs fault…..blah blah blah…….health care? Bushs fault…blah blah blah….social security? Bushs fault…..blah blah blah……sunburn on the beach?Bushs fault…blah blah blah…..speeding ticket?Bushs fault…….blah blah blah….constipation?Bushs fault….blah blah….blah….
I think I may have forgotten something….Did I say blah blah blah?
August 14th, 2006 at 12:44 pmYou said it all mike.
This place seems like a conspiracy/nutters/progressive moonbat central.
August 14th, 2006 at 2:28 pmIt’s pretty easy to separate them (nutters) from a few rational people in here.
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