Bush’s approval rating remains stuck “where it was a month ago,” according to a new CBS News poll. 28 percent of Americans view the war in Iraq as the country’s “most important problem.”
Bush will tell Rove and Cheney to attack Iran soon to try to boost his ratings, so be prepared it might happen later this month or September > after October it’s too late!
A new AP-IPSOS poll that has President Bush’s approval rating at its lowest ever: 33%. Moreover, an astounding 19% of those polled who voted for Bush in 2004 indicated they would be voting for a Democratic Congressional candidate in 2006.
Another surprise came in the level of support that the President has from the South. Bush’s approval ratings from this region “dropped from 43 percent last month to 34 percent as the GOP advantage with Southern women disappeared.”
Interesting. I wonder what KKKarl’s October Surprise will be this year?
The most important problem is that Bushco has made the Constitution irrelevant. We must restore the Constitution as the law of the land. Every other issue is a far second. And our leader, Harry Reid, doesn’t seem concerned. Will we have to start a grassroots effort in get rid of Reid as we did to Lieberman?
Bush gives God a bad name.
Bush gives America a bad name.
Scotland Yard wouldn’t brief the White House on recent
terrorsit plans because they couldn’t trust them to keep
their mouths shut. They’ve already started taking credit
for Scotland Yard’s superb detective work.
Joe Loserman is calling nearly 6 of 10 Americans ‘Al Queda
supporters’ because they don’t agree with Big Dick Cheney.
Ken Mehlman will not support the Republican candidate in Joe’s
home State becasue they need Joe kissing Bush’s ass.
Only about 10 weeks until the mid-term elections, America.
Wake up now, smell the fear & warmongering for what it is.
These greedy pigs need to go back in the barnyard where they belong.
Neocons, the wrath of truth is about to hit you between the eyes.
You stand warned.
You may try to rig these elections, too, but we are on to you. You will
not get away with it, even with an October surprise.
Let’s all take back the America we grew up in & chalk up these bastards
as a tough lesson learned. When people use religion as a cause to boost
personal greed & control they are no longer Americans. Worshiping the false
God of Profit will be their downfall.
Vote America, but use a mail-in ballot; that way Deibold won’t determine our
next majority in Congress.
#1
It’s very simple. 30% believe Bush can do no wrong. 30% believe that he does nothing right. The other 40% of us have to use our BRIANS to decide. It’s not difficult to know which percent most of you live in.
Nothing at all with improve the Bush ratings. As it is the pollsters are polling in republicrates areas and can still only get in the mid 30’s.
You can count on a terror plot about every 10 days until the mid-terms. Look at the cell phone arrests. The guys were merely speculating and spending money in an effort to make money, but now they are terrists. You will never hear of an indictment or a trial, there is nothing there in the there that is the pukes domain.
It is FEAR DAY on CNN. Wouldn’t it be nice if the Bush boys could tell us how well we are protected, instead of telling us how much we have to fear?
My God. 64% of this nation are Al Qaeda sympathizers who support the Taliban and are planning a Khmer Rouge style bloodbath and purging of all who disagree with them.
Listen traitors, support George W. Bush, God and Christ demand that much from you in this “long war”.
“Sixty-four percent said a terror attack on the U.S. is likely in the next few months, up 11 points from earlier this year.”
Obviously, this “fighting them over there” strategy is engendering a lot of public confidence and making us safer. But I forget, who is t we’re fighting over there again?
…….america is to blame….blah blah blah….america is to blame….blah blah blah…..Bush is the devil…..blah blah….Rove will eat you babies if you give him the chance……blah blah blah….WE planned 9/11…blah blah blah….All the hurricanes and other natural occuring weather patterns have been caused within the past six years…blah blah blah…..Religion=Satan….blah blah blah…..terrorism is not as big of a problem as most people think…blah blah blah….Cheney’s daughter is gay because he abused her….blah blah blah…..Gore won!!! Blah blah blah…..Kerry was defeated by a bunch of religious fanatics….blah blah blah……Cindy Sheehan should never be questioned….blah blah blah…..the main-stream media is in Bushs back pocket….blah blah blah….Saddam was running a tidy little country…..blah blah blah….Israel has over-reached……blah blah blah……the failure of american schools is all Bushs fault…..blah blah blah…….health care? Bushs fault…blah blah blah….social security? Bushs fault…..blah blah blah……sunburn on the beach?Bushs fault…blah blah blah…..speeding ticket?Bushs fault…….blah blah blah….constipation?Bushs fault….blah blah….blah….
I think I may have forgotten something….Did I say blah blah blah?
Mike is showing us the anger and frustration of the “conservatives” who are trying to support Bush’s failed policies. Clearly, like Bush, he has nothing to offer voters in support of the GOP positions so in his anger and frustration he tries to foist the failed Bush policies he has so blindly supported off on the Dixie Chicks and Cindy Sheehan. Pretty sad song you’re singing there Mike. One victory Mike could celebrate is that Karl Rove isn’t indicted, yet.
It’s very simple. 30% believe Bush can do no wrong. 30% believe that he does nothing right. The other 40% of us have to use our BRIANS to decide. It’s not difficult to know which percent most of you live in.
Comment by mike
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The referred to 30% have used our brains to determine that Bush can do ALMOST nothing right.
Sorry Mike. The folks here aren;t tree hugging ligeral hippy pot heads. We are average citizens that are fed up. If you can;t see that, then you are a die hard republican. So, stop pretending that you are moderate. Because you aren’t. You are part of the Bushie club.
I think I may have forgotten something….Did I say blah blah blah?
Comment by mike
Did I also fail to mention that I cannot honestly attain an intellictual course to debate here, so I’ll rattle off some Right Wing/Limbaugh/Coulter rant that I heard (memorized) recently. Well, they don’t call us ditto-heads fo’ nuthin’
-mike
“Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past.”
Let me see if I understand this, in 1998, Clinton’s approval ratings were in the 60+% and dems still lost seats in both houses. How does the popularity of the president help congress?
#19
I am NOT a moderate! I am a conservative. But I am not a Bushie. I call it like I see it. I agree with not funding stem cell research with federal dollars, that should be left to the private sector. But I think appointing H. Myers to the Supreme Court was one of the dumbest things I have ever seen. I agree with going in and kicking Saddam out, but I think the spending is out of control. So for everything I don’t agree with there are a couple of things I do. The 30% that I am talking about are on both sides, Bush is the greatest or Bush is the worst. Niether of those are true. Are any of you right 100% of the time? Of course not, so can someone be wrong all the time? Obviously not. Some of his actions I can look at right now and say, we should not be doing that. However, many of the actions of his administration will have to be viewed through the prism of history. Plus there must be 2 mikes posting, I didn’t write #13, but I wish I had.
mike
The issue with BushCo is not whether or not they are correct or make bad decisions. It is about the fundamental philosophy (remember the correct Republican saying that “values and character matter”) that underlie the policies and procedures that come out of this administration. Hypocrisy, deceit, deception, secrecy, projecting blame, and manipulation are the Machiavellian tools they use to advance the PNAC agenda. Unfortunately, BushCo has not made any “mistakes” in advancing this agenda so they “stay the course”. Some of the other issues are smoke screens to them, but still very real to most progressives and reflect a different set of values (stewardship of the environment, separation of church and state, care for the poor and oppressed, etc). I have tried to think of something that I believe Bush and I agree on and that I can give him credit for. But honestly, because of the huge difference in values, I can not think of even one.
Bush’s approval rating on terrorism and homeland security is in the 50’s. And that is what the campaigns will be run on in 2006. Those are the major issues of the day, my liberal friends.
PLC
I have a serious question for you. This is not a shot at all, are you really a liberal Christian? My wife and I talked about this over the weekend. How can you be a Christian and a liberal? I don’t see how that can work. Understand, I am not judging you in any way. I am just curious.
agree with going in and kicking Saddam out
mike
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It sounds so innocuous:”kicking Saddam out”
The unvarnished reality:The administration chose to invade Iraq,using highly suspect justifications.In the process, tens of thousands of innocents were killed.
And,due to the Administration’s ignorance/arrogance,they failed to plan for the bloody aftermath.
Let’s see Christian…kill 200,000 Iraqis. Christian….give Israel weapons to bomb women and children and block the ceasefire for 30 days to kill them good. Christian…launder money through my PAC and then use the money to buy a house, car, filter the money to my wife and kids. Christian….the problem is the right has mixed up the definition of Christian with Criminal, it’s easy to do they both begin with “C”.
#28
You do have a point. In the prism off history, we have made alot of mistakes. But mistakes were made in every war. I think one of the biggest mistakes is calling this a war on terror. Terrorism is a “tactic”, we should be at war with radical Islam if we are going to say we are at war.
#29 yes I am in a study of Romans right now. But after reading your comment in #31 about the “supposed” words of Jesus, trying to talk to you aboout the New Testement would like clapping with one hand.
#32
Don’t be sorry, just be factual, where might I read this study? I bet those 70% of would also say there was a case to be made for Jimmy Carter being the worst. If they had be asked during the Lincoln years I bet they would have said he was the worst. We can disagree on what should be done, but down when it is history we will KNOW how far off we were.
bones,
None of those things you mentioned were done in the name of Christ. All the evil committed by these terrorists was done in the name of their god. That is the difference.
Can you not deal with the point that was made? Or are you like most others here who can only make up cute little names for those that they disagree with. Here is one for you madashell, what is a religious zealot? And what about #24 PLC, is he a religious zealot too? Or just me because I believe there is a right and wrong.
“. . . Do you approve or disapprove of the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq?”.
Approve Disapprove Unsure
34% 62% 4% 8/10-11/06
“What do you think is the most important problem facing this country today?”
War in Iraq 23%
Economy and jobs 11%… [goes down from there]
“Are you satisfied or dissatisfied with the way things are going in the United States at this time?”
Satisfied Dissatisfied Unsure
26% 67% 7% 8/10-11/06
“Do you approve or disapprove of the way Bush is handling the conflict in the Middle East between Israel and Hezbollah?”
Approve Disapprove Unsure
39 45 16 8/10-11/06
These are the facts, ReichWingNut-ChristianWackos. Read ‘um and weep.
I doubt things have changed much since this quote was recorded:
Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler, a 33-year veteran of the Marine Corps who was twice decorated with the Medal of Honor, blew the whistle on the fascist plot to oust FDR. He also confessed to having been a “high class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.â€
In his book War is a Racket, 1935, Butler opens with these lines:
“War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope…. [and] the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.
A racket is best described as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small ‘inside’ group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.
For a great many years, as a soldier, I had a suspicion that war was a racket; not until I retired to civil life did I fully realize it…. I must face it and speak out.”
In “Time of Peace,†Common Sense, Nov. 1935, Butler said:
“There isn’t a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its ‘finger men’ (to point out enemies), its ‘muscle men’ (to destroy enemies), its ‘brain men’ (to plan war preparations), and a “Big Boss†(super-nationalistic capitalism).
It may seem odd for a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to.
I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups.
I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras “right†for American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927, I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested….
I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket…. I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was operate his racket in three city districts. We Marines operated on three continents….
Keep your eye on the shells as the scam artist performs his tricks.
Watch – the war in Iraq is connected to 9/11!
Watch again – we will make you think that the logical next step is to invade Iran or otherwise provoke a war in Iran.
Poll numbers? The scam artists say they don’t pay heed to polls.
(They only live and die by them when you are looking at the wrong shell.)
At this moment the chimp-in-hief is making a fool of himself again before the press.
He cannot talk. He speaks in platitudes, oversimplified comments.
Why did you know that he believes that mothers want their children to be safe?
#40
Those are not FACTS, they are polls based on opinion. This is the problem, you don’t know the difference between fact and opinion. I won’t stoop to calling you any names. But since you are a caring, tolerant and loving liberal. I will say your handle is very offensive. Will you as super caring lefty do anything about that? No, you only care if you are offended. What will I do? I will say a prayer for you.
You want polls? 8/14/2006
Lieberman 48%
Lamont 41%
I thought 60% of the country was against the war. Why could Lamont only get 51% of DEMS to vote for him?
#30, this very poll that you guys are talking about has Bush’s approval rating on terrorism at 51%. This is the percentage that Republicans got in 2002, and 2004 in their races overall. This year the main issues of the 2006 campaigns will again be terrorim and homeland security.
Because that is the dirty little secret that liberals don’t want you to know about. Lamont won due to a grass roots effort from the blogosphere. He does not have widespread support from democrats. The voter turnout was still relatively low and Lamont only won by 10,000 votes. Logic would tell you that there will be far more voters in the November election, of which it appears with current polling numbers, the majority will be voting for Liberman. So Lamont wins round one and Liberman will win round two, when it actually counts. But, I’m sure we can already count on the left to blame the lost on voter fraud of some kind.
#49
please explain to me where the name of the book is misspelled.
#50
enlighten me, “supposed” says you don’t believe that Jesus really said the words. And faith is not pretending to know something. Look that one up while you look up how to spell Romans. (It is between Acts and I Corinthians)
mike,
Thanks for asking. I have a liberal political philosophy, a position about the secular world. Christianity is my spiritual belief system. These are separate worlds that should not be intertwined (Jefferson’s separation of church and state, Jesus’ “render unto God what is God’s). My main objection to the right wing conservatives is their claim to be pursuing a political agenda compatible with Christianity, when it is not at all. Jesus valued individuals, not corporations and money. Jesus commanded us to care for the outcasts, poor, and oppressed. Jesus told us to “turn the other cheek”, not pre-emptively attack anyone. The Old Testament told believers to write the 10 Commandments in their hearts and on the doors of their own homes, not put copies on public property. I strongly believe that religious beliefs are and should be very personal and there should be secular law based exclusively on any religious belief. Why have there been “blue laws”? Why do we deny homosexuals to marry? These are based on particular beliefs, shared my the majority at the time, which makes it appear acceptable. It’s not, in my opinion. Spirituality does not require the power of government, it has its own inherent power to transform the person. I am a social liberal who wants government out of the spiritual realm in order to protect everyone’s right to define spirituality and its practice for themselves. Does this help understand how one can be liberal and a Christian?
#58
OK, I’ll give you that one. I was trying to type too fast. In school, I majored in creative spelling instead of creative writting. I guess I should have thought that one out. PLC thank you for your answer, I would like to get back to you and ask a few more questions later if you don’t mind. I have to get to work now.
#56 and #57
Again, what you say leads me to believe that you do NOT believe. I think it is wrong for you to use examples from the Bible whe you don’t seem to believe what it says. If you give me some time I would like to address some of your comments too. Because if I sit in a dark room and pray and never talk about my faith, I am sinning “like, really bad.”
Jesus would not approve of bombing Iraq and killing thousands of innocent Iraqis, that shock and awe thing was blowing up innocent families crowded around dinner tables praying to the one God, you know the same one Chrstians believe in. Jesus would never condone torture, you know like tying an Iraqi general up in a sleeping bag, hanging the bag from the cieling, then using a baseball bat and beating him until dead. Jesus would never condone taking an Iraqi child and beating him in front of his parents to get “information”, and when that doesn’t work, raping the little boy in front of them. All these were acts commited by the “good” Christians fighting those horrible, savage Muslims.
Once the Lebanese cease fire takes hold, and reallocated US troops in Iraq calm down the situation in Baghdad, things will work out just fine for Republicans in the November elections. What was Bush’s approval rating while Busby lost in the CA-50 election, with numbers little different than John Kerry’s for that district, with Randy Cunningham going to jail?
Jason is it hard being as ridiculous as you are? I can’t tell what’s more pathetic, lying to us to bolster you own insecurity or lying to yourself because you’re afraid Daddy Bush won’t love you if you stood up like a man and called his bullcrap, bullcrap. Pathetic.
It is far harder to stand up to peers than to authority figures, especially for groupies like progrodites tend to be. Prog says, “Oh, Howie Dean, I’m over here, look over here, scream at me, scream at me….”
Bluedog49
I thought I had you back there in #63 when you tought Jesus had said something in the book of Daniel. That would tough since Daniel was written around 536 BC. Nice save though. But then at the end of your post you do the same thing that you accused me of doing back in #52 saying I “pretended to know something”. You assume that since I am a Cristian that I hate gays. If I am to be a true Christian, that is a follower of Christ, I am not supposed to hate anyone. This is a liberal ploy, “since you don’t agree with gay marriage, you hate gays.” That is quite a leap. I cannot say I have never hated anyone. But why hate a whole group of people when there are plenty of reasons to hate someone on an individual level? Just kidding! I believe God places people in our lives for a reason. Usually to teach us something. If someone does something to me that might cause me to hate them, I assume I am supposed to learn a lesson from the experience. So I try to figure out what the lesson is, then I forgive the person and move on. Sometimes that is easier said than done. Can I ask, what is your understanding of the Mattew 6:1-6 passage?
Bones
If you think that the Allah and the God of the Bible are the SAME, you are woefully misinformed. Ask any devout Muslim and they will tell you the same thing. Through the Son of God we can be saved by grace alone. Muslim’s live in fear of the Scales. The measure of what they did good and bad. The only surefire, 100% way that they can make it to heaven is to be a martyr and die in a Jihad. Does that sound like the same God to you? As far as the other goes, where did you get that story? And if that did happen the ones who did it should go to prison for the rest of their lives. But once again, why do you assume the ones that did it are “good Christians”? Because they are in the military? They don’t care if you are a Christian, athiest, pagan or anything else. And even if that did happen, I bet no one was screaming “Jesus is great!” while they were doing it. Like the terrorists who scream it while they kill thousands of American citizens.
PLC
Thank you for your answer. The difference between our ways of thinking is I don’t think you should separate your Religious beliefs and political beliefs. The most important thing about you is your concept of God. Everything you do flows from that. Even if you are an athiest. The fact that you do not believe in a God will govern your actions just as it will if you do believe. I agree with many of the things you said and I don’t think that we are that far apart. Does it not bother you when you read all these people posting here that Christians are non-thinkers or religion is what has caused all these problems? This may be a bit personal so don’t feel you have to answer but, how do you believe one becomes a Christian? Just so I can understand a little better where you are coming from. Or anyone else for that matter, what makes someone a Christian?
The mere fact that over a third of the country still approves of the job that the administration is doing (or not doing) continues to flabbergast me.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:30 amwhat can you say…he’s “staying the course”.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:30 amBush will tell Rove and Cheney to attack Iran soon to try to boost his ratings, so be prepared it might happen later this month or September > after October it’s too late!
August 14th, 2006 at 11:33 amThese fools are arrogant enough to believe “history” will prove them “right” in another hundred or two hundred years… :-(
August 14th, 2006 at 11:34 amHere’s another look at Emperor’s approval ratings and what he’s done to his own party.
[from: http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000526.htm ]
A new AP-IPSOS poll that has President Bush’s approval rating at its lowest ever: 33%. Moreover, an astounding 19% of those polled who voted for Bush in 2004 indicated they would be voting for a Democratic Congressional candidate in 2006.
Another surprise came in the level of support that the President has from the South. Bush’s approval ratings from this region “dropped from 43 percent last month to 34 percent as the GOP advantage with Southern women disappeared.”
Interesting. I wonder what KKKarl’s October Surprise will be this year?
August 14th, 2006 at 11:41 amThe most important problem is that Bushco has made the Constitution irrelevant. We must restore the Constitution as the law of the land. Every other issue is a far second. And our leader, Harry Reid, doesn’t seem concerned. Will we have to start a grassroots effort in get rid of Reid as we did to Lieberman?
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/viewpoints/articles/0813maceachern0813.html
August 14th, 2006 at 11:44 amBush gives God a bad name.
Bush gives America a bad name.
Scotland Yard wouldn’t brief the White House on recent
terrorsit plans because they couldn’t trust them to keep
their mouths shut. They’ve already started taking credit
for Scotland Yard’s superb detective work.
Joe Loserman is calling nearly 6 of 10 Americans ‘Al Queda
supporters’ because they don’t agree with Big Dick Cheney.
Ken Mehlman will not support the Republican candidate in Joe’s
home State becasue they need Joe kissing Bush’s ass.
Only about 10 weeks until the mid-term elections, America.
Wake up now, smell the fear & warmongering for what it is.
These greedy pigs need to go back in the barnyard where they belong.
Neocons, the wrath of truth is about to hit you between the eyes.
You stand warned.
You may try to rig these elections, too, but we are on to you. You will
not get away with it, even with an October surprise.
Let’s all take back the America we grew up in & chalk up these bastards
as a tough lesson learned. When people use religion as a cause to boost
personal greed & control they are no longer Americans. Worshiping the false
God of Profit will be their downfall.
Vote America, but use a mail-in ballot; that way Deibold won’t determine our
August 14th, 2006 at 12:00 pmnext majority in Congress.
#1
August 14th, 2006 at 12:24 pmIt’s very simple. 30% believe Bush can do no wrong. 30% believe that he does nothing right. The other 40% of us have to use our BRIANS to decide. It’s not difficult to know which percent most of you live in.
Brains is correct spelling Mike!
August 14th, 2006 at 12:32 pmNothing at all with improve the Bush ratings. As it is the pollsters are polling in republicrates areas and can still only get in the mid 30’s.
You can count on a terror plot about every 10 days until the mid-terms. Look at the cell phone arrests. The guys were merely speculating and spending money in an effort to make money, but now they are terrists. You will never hear of an indictment or a trial, there is nothing there in the there that is the pukes domain.
It is FEAR DAY on CNN. Wouldn’t it be nice if the Bush boys could tell us how well we are protected, instead of telling us how much we have to fear?
August 14th, 2006 at 12:34 pmMy God. 64% of this nation are Al Qaeda sympathizers who support the Taliban and are planning a Khmer Rouge style bloodbath and purging of all who disagree with them.
Listen traitors, support George W. Bush, God and Christ demand that much from you in this “long war”.
-GSD
August 14th, 2006 at 12:37 pm“Sixty-four percent said a terror attack on the U.S. is likely in the next few months, up 11 points from earlier this year.”
Obviously, this “fighting them over there” strategy is engendering a lot of public confidence and making us safer. But I forget, who is t we’re fighting over there again?
August 14th, 2006 at 12:42 pm…….america is to blame….blah blah blah….america is to blame….blah blah blah…..Bush is the devil…..blah blah….Rove will eat you babies if you give him the chance……blah blah blah….WE planned 9/11…blah blah blah….All the hurricanes and other natural occuring weather patterns have been caused within the past six years…blah blah blah…..Religion=Satan….blah blah blah…..terrorism is not as big of a problem as most people think…blah blah blah….Cheney’s daughter is gay because he abused her….blah blah blah…..Gore won!!! Blah blah blah…..Kerry was defeated by a bunch of religious fanatics….blah blah blah……Cindy Sheehan should never be questioned….blah blah blah…..the main-stream media is in Bushs back pocket….blah blah blah….Saddam was running a tidy little country…..blah blah blah….Israel has over-reached……blah blah blah……the failure of american schools is all Bushs fault…..blah blah blah…….health care? Bushs fault…blah blah blah….social security? Bushs fault…..blah blah blah……sunburn on the beach?Bushs fault…blah blah blah…..speeding ticket?Bushs fault…….blah blah blah….constipation?Bushs fault….blah blah….blah….
I think I may have forgotten something….Did I say blah blah blah?
August 14th, 2006 at 12:42 pmA good 80% of the above post is absolutely correct. You still have some failings Mike.
August 14th, 2006 at 12:49 pm#13, Nice post, Mike.
August 14th, 2006 at 12:50 pmIf shit were brains you might have passed elementrary school.
YaDaYaDaYaDa.
#9
August 14th, 2006 at 12:56 pmOops, thanks Jay. That was pretty bad.
Mike is showing us the anger and frustration of the “conservatives” who are trying to support Bush’s failed policies. Clearly, like Bush, he has nothing to offer voters in support of the GOP positions so in his anger and frustration he tries to foist the failed Bush policies he has so blindly supported off on the Dixie Chicks and Cindy Sheehan. Pretty sad song you’re singing there Mike. One victory Mike could celebrate is that Karl Rove isn’t indicted, yet.
August 14th, 2006 at 12:57 pmIt’s very simple. 30% believe Bush can do no wrong. 30% believe that he does nothing right. The other 40% of us have to use our BRIANS to decide. It’s not difficult to know which percent most of you live in.
Comment by mike
August 14th, 2006 at 1:18 pm—————
The referred to 30% have used our brains to determine that Bush can do ALMOST nothing right.
Sorry Mike. The folks here aren;t tree hugging ligeral hippy pot heads. We are average citizens that are fed up. If you can;t see that, then you are a die hard republican. So, stop pretending that you are moderate. Because you aren’t. You are part of the Bushie club.
August 14th, 2006 at 1:28 pmI think I may have forgotten something….Did I say blah blah blah?
Comment by mike
Did I also fail to mention that I cannot honestly attain an intellictual course to debate here, so I’ll rattle off some Right Wing/Limbaugh/Coulter rant that I heard (memorized) recently. Well, they don’t call us ditto-heads fo’ nuthin’
August 14th, 2006 at 1:38 pm-mike
The 36% of the poplulation that “approves” of Bush were counted using Diebold polling machines.
August 14th, 2006 at 1:40 pm“Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past.”
Richard M. Nixon
August 14th, 2006 at 1:56 pmLet me see if I understand this, in 1998, Clinton’s approval ratings were in the 60+% and dems still lost seats in both houses. How does the popularity of the president help congress?
August 14th, 2006 at 1:58 pm#19
August 14th, 2006 at 2:05 pmI am NOT a moderate! I am a conservative. But I am not a Bushie. I call it like I see it. I agree with not funding stem cell research with federal dollars, that should be left to the private sector. But I think appointing H. Myers to the Supreme Court was one of the dumbest things I have ever seen. I agree with going in and kicking Saddam out, but I think the spending is out of control. So for everything I don’t agree with there are a couple of things I do. The 30% that I am talking about are on both sides, Bush is the greatest or Bush is the worst. Niether of those are true. Are any of you right 100% of the time? Of course not, so can someone be wrong all the time? Obviously not. Some of his actions I can look at right now and say, we should not be doing that. However, many of the actions of his administration will have to be viewed through the prism of history. Plus there must be 2 mikes posting, I didn’t write #13, but I wish I had.
mike
August 14th, 2006 at 2:26 pmThe issue with BushCo is not whether or not they are correct or make bad decisions. It is about the fundamental philosophy (remember the correct Republican saying that “values and character matter”) that underlie the policies and procedures that come out of this administration. Hypocrisy, deceit, deception, secrecy, projecting blame, and manipulation are the Machiavellian tools they use to advance the PNAC agenda. Unfortunately, BushCo has not made any “mistakes” in advancing this agenda so they “stay the course”. Some of the other issues are smoke screens to them, but still very real to most progressives and reflect a different set of values (stewardship of the environment, separation of church and state, care for the poor and oppressed, etc). I have tried to think of something that I believe Bush and I agree on and that I can give him credit for. But honestly, because of the huge difference in values, I can not think of even one.
Bush’s approval rating on terrorism and homeland security is in the 50’s. And that is what the campaigns will be run on in 2006. Those are the major issues of the day, my liberal friends.
August 14th, 2006 at 2:37 pmPLC
August 14th, 2006 at 2:44 pmI have a serious question for you. This is not a shot at all, are you really a liberal Christian? My wife and I talked about this over the weekend. How can you be a Christian and a liberal? I don’t see how that can work. Understand, I am not judging you in any way. I am just curious.
agree with going in and kicking Saddam out
mike
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It sounds so innocuous:”kicking Saddam out”
The unvarnished reality:The administration chose to invade Iraq,using highly suspect justifications.In the process, tens of thousands of innocents were killed.
And,due to the Administration’s ignorance/arrogance,they failed to plan for the bloody aftermath.
You agree with murderous incompetence,imo.
August 14th, 2006 at 2:51 pmLet’s see Christian…kill 200,000 Iraqis. Christian….give Israel weapons to bomb women and children and block the ceasefire for 30 days to kill them good. Christian…launder money through my PAC and then use the money to buy a house, car, filter the money to my wife and kids. Christian….the problem is the right has mixed up the definition of Christian with Criminal, it’s easy to do they both begin with “C”.
August 14th, 2006 at 3:02 pm#28
August 14th, 2006 at 3:14 pmYou do have a point. In the prism off history, we have made alot of mistakes. But mistakes were made in every war. I think one of the biggest mistakes is calling this a war on terror. Terrorism is a “tactic”, we should be at war with radical Islam if we are going to say we are at war.
#29 yes I am in a study of Romans right now. But after reading your comment in #31 about the “supposed” words of Jesus, trying to talk to you aboout the New Testement would like clapping with one hand.
#32
Don’t be sorry, just be factual, where might I read this study? I bet those 70% of would also say there was a case to be made for Jimmy Carter being the worst. If they had be asked during the Lincoln years I bet they would have said he was the worst. We can disagree on what should be done, but down when it is history we will KNOW how far off we were.
bones,
August 14th, 2006 at 3:21 pmNone of those things you mentioned were done in the name of Christ. All the evil committed by these terrorists was done in the name of their god. That is the difference.
people! There is no arguing with religious zealots – and again they aren’t republicans, they are republiCONS
August 14th, 2006 at 3:26 pmIn Bush’s case, that would be republiDUH
August 14th, 2006 at 3:27 pm#35, Mike actually I was talking about Bush, Rumsfeld, and Delay but it’s nice of you to note that they are terrorists.
August 14th, 2006 at 3:30 pmCan you not deal with the point that was made? Or are you like most others here who can only make up cute little names for those that they disagree with. Here is one for you madashell, what is a religious zealot? And what about #24 PLC, is he a religious zealot too? Or just me because I believe there is a right and wrong.
August 14th, 2006 at 3:45 pm[from: http://www.pollingreport.com/ ]
“. . . Do you approve or disapprove of the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq?”.
Approve Disapprove Unsure
34% 62% 4% 8/10-11/06
“What do you think is the most important problem facing this country today?”
War in Iraq 23%
Economy and jobs 11%… [goes down from there]
“Are you satisfied or dissatisfied with the way things are going in the United States at this time?”
Satisfied Dissatisfied Unsure
26% 67% 7% 8/10-11/06
“Do you approve or disapprove of the way Bush is handling the conflict in the Middle East between Israel and Hezbollah?”
Approve Disapprove Unsure
39 45 16 8/10-11/06
These are the facts, ReichWingNut-ChristianWackos. Read ‘um and weep.
August 14th, 2006 at 3:52 pm#34
Mistakes?Hardly.
I doubt things have changed much since this quote was recorded:
Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler, a 33-year veteran of the Marine Corps who was twice decorated with the Medal of Honor, blew the whistle on the fascist plot to oust FDR. He also confessed to having been a “high class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.â€
In his book War is a Racket, 1935, Butler opens with these lines:
“War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope…. [and] the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.
A racket is best described as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small ‘inside’ group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.
For a great many years, as a soldier, I had a suspicion that war was a racket; not until I retired to civil life did I fully realize it…. I must face it and speak out.”
In “Time of Peace,†Common Sense, Nov. 1935, Butler said:
“There isn’t a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its ‘finger men’ (to point out enemies), its ‘muscle men’ (to destroy enemies), its ‘brain men’ (to plan war preparations), and a “Big Boss†(super-nationalistic capitalism).
It may seem odd for a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to.
I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups.
I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras “right†for American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927, I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested….
I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket…. I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was operate his racket in three city districts. We Marines operated on three continents….
August 14th, 2006 at 3:54 pmKeep your eye on the shells as the scam artist performs his tricks.
August 14th, 2006 at 3:57 pmWatch – the war in Iraq is connected to 9/11!
Watch again – we will make you think that the logical next step is to invade Iran or otherwise provoke a war in Iran.
Poll numbers? The scam artists say they don’t pay heed to polls.
(They only live and die by them when you are looking at the wrong shell.)
At this moment the chimp-in-hief is making a fool of himself again before the press.
August 14th, 2006 at 3:59 pmHe cannot talk. He speaks in platitudes, oversimplified comments.
Why did you know that he believes that mothers want their children to be safe?
chimp-in-chief
August 14th, 2006 at 4:00 pm#40
August 14th, 2006 at 4:12 pmThose are not FACTS, they are polls based on opinion. This is the problem, you don’t know the difference between fact and opinion. I won’t stoop to calling you any names. But since you are a caring, tolerant and loving liberal. I will say your handle is very offensive. Will you as super caring lefty do anything about that? No, you only care if you are offended. What will I do? I will say a prayer for you.
You want polls? 8/14/2006
August 14th, 2006 at 4:15 pmLieberman 48%
Lamont 41%
I thought 60% of the country was against the war. Why could Lamont only get 51% of DEMS to vote for him?
#30, this very poll that you guys are talking about has Bush’s approval rating on terrorism at 51%. This is the percentage that Republicans got in 2002, and 2004 in their races overall. This year the main issues of the 2006 campaigns will again be terrorim and homeland security.
August 14th, 2006 at 4:22 pmMike, the pro-war, pro-Bush candidate got 48% of the vote in the CT Democrat primary. LOL.
August 14th, 2006 at 4:23 pm#47
Because that is the dirty little secret that liberals don’t want you to know about. Lamont won due to a grass roots effort from the blogosphere. He does not have widespread support from democrats. The voter turnout was still relatively low and Lamont only won by 10,000 votes. Logic would tell you that there will be far more voters in the November election, of which it appears with current polling numbers, the majority will be voting for Liberman. So Lamont wins round one and Liberman will win round two, when it actually counts. But, I’m sure we can already count on the left to blame the lost on voter fraud of some kind.
August 14th, 2006 at 4:34 pm#49
August 14th, 2006 at 4:47 pmplease explain to me where the name of the book is misspelled.
#50
enlighten me, “supposed” says you don’t believe that Jesus really said the words. And faith is not pretending to know something. Look that one up while you look up how to spell Romans. (It is between Acts and I Corinthians)
You know I would take the definition of FAITH (add blind to that) from an OXFORD PROFESSOR: The blind faithful are NONTHINKERS!
August 14th, 2006 at 4:51 pmmike,
August 14th, 2006 at 4:58 pmThanks for asking. I have a liberal political philosophy, a position about the secular world. Christianity is my spiritual belief system. These are separate worlds that should not be intertwined (Jefferson’s separation of church and state, Jesus’ “render unto God what is God’s). My main objection to the right wing conservatives is their claim to be pursuing a political agenda compatible with Christianity, when it is not at all. Jesus valued individuals, not corporations and money. Jesus commanded us to care for the outcasts, poor, and oppressed. Jesus told us to “turn the other cheek”, not pre-emptively attack anyone. The Old Testament told believers to write the 10 Commandments in their hearts and on the doors of their own homes, not put copies on public property. I strongly believe that religious beliefs are and should be very personal and there should be secular law based exclusively on any religious belief. Why have there been “blue laws”? Why do we deny homosexuals to marry? These are based on particular beliefs, shared my the majority at the time, which makes it appear acceptable. It’s not, in my opinion. Spirituality does not require the power of government, it has its own inherent power to transform the person. I am a social liberal who wants government out of the spiritual realm in order to protect everyone’s right to define spirituality and its practice for themselves. Does this help understand how one can be liberal and a Christian?
should be: there should be NO secular law based exclusively on any religious belief.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:00 pm#58
August 14th, 2006 at 5:27 pmOK, I’ll give you that one. I was trying to type too fast. In school, I majored in creative spelling instead of creative writting. I guess I should have thought that one out. PLC thank you for your answer, I would like to get back to you and ask a few more questions later if you don’t mind. I have to get to work now.
#56 and #57
Again, what you say leads me to believe that you do NOT believe. I think it is wrong for you to use examples from the Bible whe you don’t seem to believe what it says. If you give me some time I would like to address some of your comments too. Because if I sit in a dark room and pray and never talk about my faith, I am sinning “like, really bad.”
#51, I believe it was the CBS poll that had Bush at 55% approval on terrorism and homeland security.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:31 pmJesus would not approve of bombing Iraq and killing thousands of innocent Iraqis, that shock and awe thing was blowing up innocent families crowded around dinner tables praying to the one God, you know the same one Chrstians believe in. Jesus would never condone torture, you know like tying an Iraqi general up in a sleeping bag, hanging the bag from the cieling, then using a baseball bat and beating him until dead. Jesus would never condone taking an Iraqi child and beating him in front of his parents to get “information”, and when that doesn’t work, raping the little boy in front of them. All these were acts commited by the “good” Christians fighting those horrible, savage Muslims.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:36 pmJesus, would stand up to those people and make them stop. So Mike do you follow this Jesus, or do you deny like Peter in the night.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:57 pmAmen Bluedog, Amen!
August 14th, 2006 at 6:35 pmOnce the Lebanese cease fire takes hold, and reallocated US troops in Iraq calm down the situation in Baghdad, things will work out just fine for Republicans in the November elections. What was Bush’s approval rating while Busby lost in the CA-50 election, with numbers little different than John Kerry’s for that district, with Randy Cunningham going to jail?
Libs / progs got nothing.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:39 pmJason is it hard being as ridiculous as you are? I can’t tell what’s more pathetic, lying to us to bolster you own insecurity or lying to yourself because you’re afraid Daddy Bush won’t love you if you stood up like a man and called his bullcrap, bullcrap. Pathetic.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:49 pmBluedog-” Live long and prosper”.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:01 pm#69, bluedog,
It is far harder to stand up to peers than to authority figures, especially for groupies like progrodites tend to be. Prog says, “Oh, Howie Dean, I’m over here, look over here, scream at me, scream at me….”
August 14th, 2006 at 7:06 pm#71, Jason you’re one to talk. Lusting after George Bush because you want him to love you is sick man.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:24 pmHmm, and I thought it was hard for righties to “stand up”, period, without the help of Viagra…or war.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:07 pmBluedog49
August 15th, 2006 at 1:34 pmI thought I had you back there in #63 when you tought Jesus had said something in the book of Daniel. That would tough since Daniel was written around 536 BC. Nice save though. But then at the end of your post you do the same thing that you accused me of doing back in #52 saying I “pretended to know something”. You assume that since I am a Cristian that I hate gays. If I am to be a true Christian, that is a follower of Christ, I am not supposed to hate anyone. This is a liberal ploy, “since you don’t agree with gay marriage, you hate gays.” That is quite a leap. I cannot say I have never hated anyone. But why hate a whole group of people when there are plenty of reasons to hate someone on an individual level? Just kidding! I believe God places people in our lives for a reason. Usually to teach us something. If someone does something to me that might cause me to hate them, I assume I am supposed to learn a lesson from the experience. So I try to figure out what the lesson is, then I forgive the person and move on. Sometimes that is easier said than done. Can I ask, what is your understanding of the Mattew 6:1-6 passage?
Bones
August 15th, 2006 at 1:55 pmIf you think that the Allah and the God of the Bible are the SAME, you are woefully misinformed. Ask any devout Muslim and they will tell you the same thing. Through the Son of God we can be saved by grace alone. Muslim’s live in fear of the Scales. The measure of what they did good and bad. The only surefire, 100% way that they can make it to heaven is to be a martyr and die in a Jihad. Does that sound like the same God to you? As far as the other goes, where did you get that story? And if that did happen the ones who did it should go to prison for the rest of their lives. But once again, why do you assume the ones that did it are “good Christians”? Because they are in the military? They don’t care if you are a Christian, athiest, pagan or anything else. And even if that did happen, I bet no one was screaming “Jesus is great!” while they were doing it. Like the terrorists who scream it while they kill thousands of American citizens.
PLC
August 15th, 2006 at 2:13 pmThank you for your answer. The difference between our ways of thinking is I don’t think you should separate your Religious beliefs and political beliefs. The most important thing about you is your concept of God. Everything you do flows from that. Even if you are an athiest. The fact that you do not believe in a God will govern your actions just as it will if you do believe. I agree with many of the things you said and I don’t think that we are that far apart. Does it not bother you when you read all these people posting here that Christians are non-thinkers or religion is what has caused all these problems? This may be a bit personal so don’t feel you have to answer but, how do you believe one becomes a Christian? Just so I can understand a little better where you are coming from. Or anyone else for that matter, what makes someone a Christian?
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