Substantiated military recruiting violations
By on Aug 14th, 2006 at 7:09 pm
Substantiated military recruiting violations
“went up by more than 50 percent last year, going from 4,400 cases to 6,600 in 2005,” according to a new GAO report.
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Sen. George Allen (R-East Jesus) calls some guy a Surrender Macaca and we get recruiting violations? SNAP OUT OF IT TP!
August 14th, 2006 at 7:19 pmAllegations of recruiting violations—in today’s up and up military? Well, don’t you believe a word of it. We’re talking here THE U.S. MILITARY! Run by that true blue Donald Rumsfeld, our Secretary of Defense. Do you think that Rumsfeld is so incompetent that he couldn’t inspire young men in droves to join up? That these same young men are avoiding recruitment because we, The Righteous, are fighting a holy war against terrorism? That don’t make no sense. To state that premise you’ll have believe that there’s something wrong with Rumsfeld and President Bush. No way, man. Don’t you see that George W. Bush was chosen by God to start this war in the Middle East in order to get back at those who hit us on 9/11? Those Middle Easterners gotta grovel before us, because our president is better than theirs, our God is better than theirs or else they wouldn’t be suffering like hell at our hand. So you see it’s that simple: those allegations of recruiting violations are lies. If they were true than Bush and Rumsfeld are the liars, the fakers. Now you see my point.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:54 pmBush ‘helped Israeli attack on Lebanon’
Dan Glaister in Los Angeles
Monday August 14, 2006
The Guardian
The US government was closely involved in planning the Israeli campaign in Lebanon, even before Hizbullah seized two Israeli soldiers in a cross border raids in July. American and Israeli officials met in the spring, discussing plans on how to tackle Hizbullah, according to a report published yesterday.
The veteran investigative journalist Seymour Hersh writes in the current issue of the New Yorker magazine that Israeli government officials travelled to the US in May to share plans for attacking Hizbullah.
Quoting a US government consultant, Hersh said: “Earlier this summer … several Israeli officials visited Washington, separately, ‘to get a green light for the bombing operation and to find out how much the United States would bear’.”
The Israeli action, current and former government officials told Hersh, chimed with the Bush administration’s desire to reduce the threat of possible Hizbullah retaliation against Israel should the US launch a military strike against Iran.
“A successful Israeli Air Force bombing campaign … could ease Israel’s security concerns and also serve as a prelude to a potential American pre-emptive attack to destroy Iran’s nuclear installations,” sources told Hersh.
Yesterday Mr Hersh told CNN: “July was a pretext for a major offensive that had been in the works for a long time. Israel’s attack was going to be a model for the attack they really want to do. They really want to go after Iran.”
An unnamed Pentagon consultant told Hersh: “It was our intention to have Hizbullah diminished and now we have someone else doing it.”
Officials from the state department and the Pentagon denied the report. A spokesman for the National Security Council told Hersh that “The Israeli government gave no official in Washington any reason to believe that Israel was planning to attack.”
August 14th, 2006 at 8:03 pmWhy Is Clyde STILL Banished??????
I wrote TP on Saturday! As of today, 4 computers and NOTHING!
He never insults anyone, yet he is banned?
Sorry to have to call you out on the carpet, TP, but I was nice and you didn’t do anything.
Please let TP know to fix their error. Use the contact button.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:17 pmThanks,
NORMA RAE
trueblue,
You mean Clyde the Ripper? WTF? Why would he be banned? That is very odd.
TP,
Why’d you ban Clyde? He’s pretty mellow.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:37 pmtrueblue – check the agreement below – seems there is something about links to selling sites – maybe if clyde posted without the link to his site?
just a thought…
oh, how rude – hello clyde! ;-)
August 14th, 2006 at 8:42 pmExactly!
That’s why I had to do the shout out.
I contacted TP Sat., after he emailed me. I was nice and all, but they did nothing.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:42 pmHe wrote me today saying nothing has happened.
So I had to do what I did.
Please email TP, everyone!
Thanks, Spudge.
(BTW: Nice to see you! :)
Hi, Katy,
August 14th, 2006 at 8:44 pmHe’s not selling anything, that’s the link to his bash Bush stuff!
He has it on her website, and it’s seperate.
they harass underage kids to put their lives in danger… I would not put anything past military recruiters…
August 14th, 2006 at 8:46 pmOver the weekend, I read where a military recruiter signed up an autistic young man. These bastards are the lowest parasites on earth. They should be stalking the kids of the neocons who got us into this quagmire. Why are not their kids fighting if their fathers believe that the Iraq war is such a noble cause? You would think that their kids would be beating down the doors of the recruiters in a mad dash to sign up, to be the first to fight.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:01 pmOh well I seen iv’ve seen bs, but this is bs. If you belive any of this your really …………
August 14th, 2006 at 9:06 pm#13 – Fascinated by the stupidity
Here’s the link, stupid.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1681664/posts
August 14th, 2006 at 9:29 pmtrueblue,
Have you or Clyde gotten a response from TP? This made me remember that a few days ago I read that Sharon Cox was having problems, too.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:33 pmIf you belive any of this your really …………
My really what?
August 14th, 2006 at 9:34 pm#15 If anybody has been banned it would be me. I don’t know if I have been deleted because I don’t read back very far. Clyde and Sharon didn’t seem to be incredible flamethrowers to me.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:37 pmHey Zooey, I’m bitch-slapping the moron again tonite. It’s popcorn time! Remember, extra butter on mine, and hold the salt(use it to rub into moron’s wounds).-heh, heh.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:38 pmI have never seen Clyde pimp his site. He has a link to it if you click on his name but he doesn’t mention it in his posts. By the way, it is worth checking out. I am not Clyde :) Just an admirer.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:39 pmI’m bitch-slapping the moron again tonite. It’s popcorn time! Remember, extra butter on mine, and hold the salt(use it to rub into moron’s wounds).-heh, heh.
Comment by Ho Chi Minh
Which thread? I enjoy a good bitch-slapping, especially when it’s not me. I’ll bring the defibrillator!
August 14th, 2006 at 9:44 pmi never meant to suggest that clyde was pimping his site… just that TP may have a problem with that link… just an idea…
keep pestering them, clyde… judd will be fair…
August 14th, 2006 at 9:45 pm#17 – Why would you be banned or deleted? I get deleted because of my potty mouth and disgusting descriptive humor.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:47 pmZooey, check the multiple threads today. It’s on most of them beginning after 1700 hours.(5pm).
August 14th, 2006 at 9:55 pmHi Zooey, everyone else
No, as of right now he’s still banned!
Please write TP. Just use the contact icon @ the top of the thread.
He’s heart-broken.
Thank, everyone!
August 14th, 2006 at 9:59 pm“Viva la Ripper!!”
It’s on most of them beginning after 1700 hours.(5pm).
Comment by Ho Chi Minh
Dude,
My dad was a Marine, my last boss was a retired Marine Colonel, and the judge I work for now was a Marine — I know 1700 hours! :)
I’ll check it out.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:02 pmZooey, no offense about the time thing, many people DON’T know., Sorry about that.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:07 pmtrueblue,
Email sent. I mentioned Clyde, Sharon and James Risser. I also informed them that Santo is trashing the ThinkFast thread. They’re all over Clyde and James, but Santo can go nuts on a thread, and they don’t even notice.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:08 pmZooey, no offense about the time thing, many people DON’T know., Sorry about that.
Comment by Ho Chi Minh
No offense taken, sorry. See the little smiley face?
Since I was kicking the slats out of my crib I’ve heard things like, “We’re hitting the road at O-dark-thirty, so hit the rack! Double time!”
Memories….
August 14th, 2006 at 10:11 pmZooey,
You Rock!!
Thanks. I just had to go Norma Rae because I can’t stand injustice.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:11 pmI’d make a pretty bad lawyer, wouldn’t I? ;)
(meaning I’d be saying “No Deal!” to everyone!)
(meaning I’d be saying “No Deal!†to everyone!)
Comment by trueblue
You’re toughening up nicely, my dear. *sniff* So proud…
August 14th, 2006 at 10:13 pmYou are a riot, Zooey!
August 14th, 2006 at 10:17 pmI really just hate injustice.
Trools run amok here, and poor Clyde emailed me, apologizing profusely, and 3 days later – nothing???
What is this?- the Lamont / Lieberman race???? It should have been handled Sat morning when I wrote them!
Zooey, as the last response from the moron was over 3 hrs ago on the thread about chickenhawk Kristol(1917), I will bid you good night and good luck. Stay tuned. also as I said earlier to another, live long and prosper.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:23 pmThis is from the article: Substantiated cases rose to almost 630 cases from 400
That’s a big drop from 6,000 allegations.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:24 pmlive long and prosper.
Comment by Ho Chi Minh
I am honored. Goodnight, Ho Chi Minh.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:26 pmOh, silly me. I thought 14 y/o girls were involved.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:27 pmIsn’t it funny…
Hear that???
Where are the trolls for support of the mission and the IDIOT (uh, I mean Bush)?
Or will they come with their tired talking BS that we are hurting the moral of the troops???
I hear crickets…Tapping foot…
Hmmm…Interesting how the tough are COWARDS when it comes to stepping up to the plate!!!
I guess monkey see, monkey do! Hey BUSH want a banana?
August 14th, 2006 at 10:29 pmOT-sorry
August 14th, 2006 at 10:30 pmK. Olberman ran a full time line comparing Bush&Co troubles with terror “threats”
Very interesting. The rerun in the midwest is at 11pm
Or will they come with their tired talking BS that we are hurting the moral of the troops???
I won’t say that. But, out of 6,000 allegations, only 600 were substantiated.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:34 pmVery interesting. The rerun in the midwest is at 11pm
Comment by Marie
I never get home in time for Keith anymore. Well, stupid Michael Musto, but that doesn’t count! I’m looking forward to the time line story. Thanks for the heads up, Marie. Repeat at 9 p.m. on Pacific Time!
August 14th, 2006 at 10:34 pm#5,6,7
August 14th, 2006 at 10:35 pmClyde the ripper is banned? CtR has his own web site, but it is mostly Bush-bashing stuff – does that violate the terms?
Sharon is banned?
They have been posting here a long time – there must be something wrong – or a mistake.
Very frequently, I am unable to post (http error messages) and I have to sign off and sign on a couple of times – trying to get past the TP spam filter – very frustrating. Could they be having similar problems?
If the trolls were having that much trouble, maybe they’d go away.
600 were substantiated.
Comment by Mr. Big
It’s still a lot of f*ck ups, Mr Big. Not ok.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:35 pmCould they be having similar problems?
If the trolls were having that much trouble, maybe they’d go away.
Comment by Marie
Sharon might be having a problem like that, so I’m not sure she’s banned. I just mentioned her in my email, in case she was.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:37 pmIt’s still a lot of f*ck ups, Mr Big. Not ok.
A lot relative to what? The problem should be addressed. But let’s not blow this out of proportion. There were not 6,000 substiated cases. Only 600. Anybody can make an allegation.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:40 pmHello, Zoo. Now you are hijacking two threads, woman!
August 14th, 2006 at 10:40 pmOk, let me in, please.
Marie:
I find that any post I submit that has three ‘w’s in a row gets flagged by the spam filter.
Makes it rather difficult to post links to substantiate one’s arguments, wouldn’t you say?
August 14th, 2006 at 10:42 pmI never get home in time for Keith anymore.
You’re not missing anything. ;)
Only about 300k or so people watch the show.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:42 pmIf Clyde believes he is certainly banned and not a victim of technology, perhaps he can write to them via Email, at the center for american progress.org.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:42 pmAnybody can make an allegation.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 14, 2006 @ 10:40 pm
Imagine yourself in a 10% legal problem. Its still a problem.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:43 pmI think we are being visited by a male troll who seems to be afflicted with an “inferiority complex” if you know what I mean.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:43 pm#45 TM
August 14th, 2006 at 10:46 pmI try not to post links directly because of that – I will refer to the source and people can look it up. Although sometimes, I will post a link as a test.
Frankly, however, I can find no rhyme nor reason, no pattern, nor cue that causes the little http bugger to prevent posts.
Its still a problem.
Any recruiting violation is a problem. It’s just not as big a problem as that headline made it out to be. Out of 6,000 allegations, only 600 were substantiated.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:46 pmThanks for taking on Clyde’s plight!
He is the sweetest man, and there is no reason for this.
He just wrote me to tell me he has severed the connection between his name and the web site. All he wants is to post again.
Please, who(m?)ever reads this,
Write TP and tell them to fix this!
Thank you!
August 14th, 2006 at 10:47 pmNorma Rae aka…
I think we are being visited by a male troll who seems to be afflicted with an “inferiority complex†if you know what I mean.
lol, not really. I just like the show Sex and the City and I liked the name.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:47 pmAny recruiting violation is a problem.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 14, 2006 @ 10:46 pm
Then we agree. Kids lives are being gambled, you know? Kids without future.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:48 pmOnly 600. Anybody can make an allegation.
Comment by Mr. Big
See my link @ #14. It’s one too many. 600 is 600 too many. Why are you defending these screw ups? Recruiters are trained in doing their jobs. They know what they’re doing when they do it right, and when they do it wrong. I’m done.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:48 pmHello, Zoo. Now you are hijacking two threads, woman!
Ok, let me in, please.
Comment by Juan C
Juan! I did not hijack either of these threads! You’re teasing me! I’m supposed to tease you!
August 14th, 2006 at 10:51 pmIt’s one too many. 600 is 600 too many. Why are you defending these screw ups?
I agree that it’s one too many. Any violation is a problem and needs to be addressed. But the headline of this article made the problem sound much worse than it really was. I believe in being fair, especially to our men and women in the armed forces.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:52 pmZooey,
August 14th, 2006 at 10:53 pmYah, right….
and I corrupted Juan first! :)
(I read that thread where you said it was mostly me…!)
Hey, hey. If I am being corrupted I wanna be aware of that, ok?
August 14th, 2006 at 10:55 pmHi, Zoo and true. Nice talking to you. Just sent E-mail to TP about Clyde.
I did not hijack either of these threads! You’re teasing me! I’m supposed to tease you!
Comment by Zooey — August 14, 2006 @ 10:51 pm
You got this gift. Embrace it. :)
August 14th, 2006 at 10:57 pmMrB
August 14th, 2006 at 10:57 pmViolations in recruiting should not be excused in your cavalier manner. Young and vulnerable people are being deceived; it is immoral and illegal, regardless that it has always been practiced; it is practiced to an unprecedented extent today.
With enlistment numbers down and more warm bodies needed, it is surely tempting recruiters to entice more people with less than truthful promises.
When lives are at stake, this is nothing to take lightly.
Bush&Co continue to reduce the number of recruits needed each month so as to make their recruitment levels look less pitiable.
They have also reduced their standards as well as raised the enlistment age. Soon, they will be adding Depends to the uniforms.
Thank you, Juan! I appreciate it.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:57 pm(pssst: it”s Zooey who’s corrupting you…!)
Hey, hey. If I am being corrupted I wanna be aware of that, ok?
Comment by Juan C
Like you didn’t know…
August 14th, 2006 at 10:58 pmNorma Rae aka…
Comment by trueblue — August 14, 2006 @ 10:47 pm
Whos Norma Rae?
August 14th, 2006 at 10:58 pmThank you, Juan! I appreciate it.
(pssst: itâ€s Zooey who’s corrupting you…!)
Comment by trueblue
Oh hell no, that’s the second time I’ve been thrown under the bus today! Remember my excellent memory? I will get revenge…
August 14th, 2006 at 10:59 pmTrue,
Please, absolutely E-mail TP. If that is their problem I have no problem. The link will be gone. In a separate comment you may tell the world and all our friends there that my eyes are sweating. I know it is just from the Arizona heat. We love you all! Thanks for all your support and being the great people you are. We shall overcome! We shall be proud to be Americans, again.
Clyde the Ripper
August 14th, 2006 at 11:00 pmhe just emailed me this. Is he not a sweetie or what?
Email TP! Bring Clyde back!
Violations in recruiting should not be excused in your cavalier manner.
I was not excusing the violations. I was merely pointing out that out of 6,000 allegations, only 600 were substiated. 90% of the allegations had no merit.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:01 pmI believe in being fair, especially to our men and women in the armed forces.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 14, 2006 @ 10:52 pm
How especially? We need to be fair with everybody.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:01 pmClyde’s a sweetheart. Hi Clyde!
August 14th, 2006 at 11:01 pmI was merely pointing out that out of 6,000 allegations, only 600 were substiated. 90% of the allegations had no merit.
Comment by Mr. Big
What’s wrong with saying that up front?
August 14th, 2006 at 11:02 pmZooey, I did. I said it in every post.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:04 pmLike you didn’t know…
Comment by Zooey — August 14, 2006 @ 10:58 pm
Again, if Im going to hell or going down, Im going with a smile. So…
August 14th, 2006 at 11:04 pmHey, true. Clyde can see us but he can post?
August 14th, 2006 at 11:05 pmcant post?
August 14th, 2006 at 11:05 pmWe need to be fair with everybody.
I agree. I just wish some of the people in this thread thought the same way. They seem to be saying an allegation should be treated as fact in every case. 90% of the allegations had no merit.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:06 pmHi Juan,
(It’s still Zooey…)
Google Norma Rae.
She fought for the rights of her co-workers by trying to start a union.
They (the corporation) said she couldn’t talk about union to anyone, so she stood up on the lunchroom table with a big sign reading: UNION. She didn’t like injustice, just like I dislike injustice.
TP better start listening…..
So, how are you?
August 14th, 2006 at 11:07 pm(notice I’m ignoring their chat room policy.)
No, Juan,
August 14th, 2006 at 11:08 pmHe can’t even GET to TP!
They block him!
She fought for the rights of her co-workers by trying to start a union.
Comment by trueblue — August 14, 2006 @ 11:07 pm
So, an activist. I like that. You are doing a terrific job.
So, how are you?
August 14th, 2006 at 11:11 pm(notice I’m ignoring their chat room policy.)
Comment by trueblue — August 14, 2006 @ 11:07 pm
Is that a rethoric question just to make your point against TP or really asking me? :)
Fine. I wrote you. Hope it wasnt very boring.
Fine. I wrote you. Hope it wasnt very boring.
Comment by Juan C
Sweet.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:13 pmThey block him!
Comment by trueblue — August 14, 2006 @ 11:08 pm
There goes the freedom of speech. I heard I wasnt allowed to speak about the 9/11 Inside JOb either. I wrote them about it. They never answered.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:13 pmShe fought for the rights of her co-workers by trying to start a union.
My problem with unions is that some force people to join them or to support them financially. I support Right to Work laws so it’s not mandatory to join a union.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:14 pmSo, how are you?
I was sincere about that, Juan.
I wouldn’t use a friend to make a point.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:14 pmI’m just not caring right now that I’m off topic, that’s all… :)
Sweet.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:14 pmComment by Yenta — August 14, 2006 @ 11:13 pm
Hey, post your e-mail address and I will do the same to you. :)
Fine. I wrote you. Hope it wasnt very boring.
Comment by Juan C
Sweet.
Comment by Yenta —
Don’t forget to change your name tomorrow morning! :)
August 14th, 2006 at 11:15 pmI heard I wasnt allowed to speak about the 9/11 Inside JOb either.
Really, you think 9/11 was an inside job? How so?
August 14th, 2006 at 11:16 pmHah, Yenta!
August 14th, 2006 at 11:17 pmGive Juan your email address so he can woo you, too!
;) ;) ;) ;)
Juan C
August 14th, 2006 at 11:17 pmYou are NOT going to take Mr. Big’s bait are you?
True Blue, getting yourself banned from this site is not the right way to go about bringing back your friend, in my opinion. If you are banned from this site, you are going to regret it. There is going to be a topic that you will want to talk about, but you won’t be able to. Just my two cents.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:18 pmI’m just not caring right now that I’m off topic, that’s all… :)
Comment by trueblue — August 14, 2006 @ 11:14 pm
I was kidding, you know. Language barrier and stuff. :)
Ok, I was going to post that you can use me to make any point. BUt Im guessing that would sound terribly bad, so I wont. Ha!
I support Right to Work laws so it’s not mandatory to join a union.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:19 pmComment by Mr. Big — August 14, 2006 @ 11:14 pm
Unions werent born that way. They were born as a response against totalitarian labor rules made by companies. Thanks to unions you have the right to work only 8 hours a day while kids are forbidded to work. (At least here in Mexico…in theory, of course)
I will keep my mouth shut on a military topic
August 14th, 2006 at 11:20 pmI will keep my mouth shut on a military topic
I will keep my mouth shut on a military topic
I will keep my mouth shut on a military topic
I will keep my mouth shut on a military topic
GRRRRRRRR Go Big!
You are NOT going to take Mr. Big’s bait are you?
Comment by Marie — August 14, 2006 @ 11:17 pm
I would love to but ok. I will only tell you this. Raise your hand who thinks that governments care about its own people.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:21 pmI don’t want to get banned, but I can’t simply let an old man who did nothing wrong remain banned.
The poem about the Holocast…. remember?
Who will speak for him?
Who will speak for me?
It’s about what is right. Never be afraid of what is right.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:22 pmwhile kids are forbidden, I meant.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:23 pm#89, I’ll review those sites.
I’ll be open and honest about 9/11. Everytime I see the World Trade Towers in an old movie or something, I get all misty eyed. EVERYTIME. Still.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:23 pmIt’s about what is right. Never be afraid of what is right.
Comment by trueblue — August 14, 2006 @ 11:22 pm
Indeed. You are inspiring, you know that?
August 14th, 2006 at 11:24 pmGive Juan your email address so he can woo you, too!
;) ;) ;) ;)
Comment by trueblue
No way! Nothing against you, Juan, of course. I posted my email address once before for, someone, and was really lucky no trolls wrote me. I won’t get that lucky again. I’ll let you know when it’s ok to give Juan my address, ok?
August 14th, 2006 at 11:26 pmThanks to unions you have the right to work only 8 hours a day while kids are forbidded to work.
True. That’s great. But unfortunatly some states do not have Right to Work laws and it’s mandatory that you either join a union or pay dues to have a particular job. I’m personally against that. Especially since some of those dues go to political candidates that I would never support.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:26 pmJuan,
August 14th, 2006 at 11:26 pmNo. I’m simply passionate in what I believe, and an old man is being treated unfairly.
I can’t take that.
I get all misty eyed. EVERYTIME. Still.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 14, 2006 @ 11:23 pm
I do not celebrate what happened. BUt it has happened in a lot of places produced by US forces, and not a word about that. People is really emotional about this topic. The worst thing besides not knowing the truth is to know the truth.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:27 pmI get all misty eyed. EVERYTIME. Still.
Comment by Mr. Big
Me too. I cry like a baby every time I see it. And that’s really saying something, because I’m a hard old bitch.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:28 pmyenta’s a chicken, na-na-na-na-na-boo-boo!
;)
August 14th, 2006 at 11:28 pmDon’t worry, it’s safe…. for the moment! ;)
I’ll let you know when it’s ok to give Juan my address, ok?
Comment by Yenta — August 14, 2006 @ 11:26 pm
I know, I know. Just messing around.
I can’t take that.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:29 pmComment by trueblue — August 14, 2006 @ 11:26 pm
Well, allow me to be inspired by that. :) (Im not kidding)
Indeed. You are inspiring, you know that?
Comment by Juan C
Oy vey, it brings a tear to my eye…
August 14th, 2006 at 11:30 pmRaise your hand who thinks that governments care about its own people.
I think the US goverment does. Under Bush, Clinton, anybody. I think any president does what he (or she someday, Condie Rice?) thinks is best for the American people.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:31 pmYou have to be a Vet Big?
August 14th, 2006 at 11:33 pmyenta’s a chicken, na-na-na-na-na-boo-boo!
Comment by trueblue
Oh god, I need to email you a bunch of filthy language…
August 14th, 2006 at 11:33 pmHi j!
August 14th, 2006 at 11:34 pmwondering why think progress didn’t think my post #4 ‘thread-worthy’…ahh, the rancid smell of psuedo-progressive fear fills the room again…
August 14th, 2006 at 11:34 pmMr. Big,
And I thought I had rose-colored eyeglasses!
WOW!
August 14th, 2006 at 11:35 pmI don’t mean to be insulting, and I truly apologize if it sounds that way, but, one link I couldn’t provide you was a documentary on 9-11. It was an hour and 1/2 long, and IT made my cry about as much as the tragedy did that day. I was inconsolable for a while.
It wouldn’t link up, but maybe you can find it: it’s 911 Loose Change.
I think any president does what he (or she someday, Condie Rice?) thinks is best for the American people.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 14, 2006 @ 11:31 pm
You mean a president with 33 % support is doing the best for the people? Either you want to lie to yourself or dont know the meaning of a democracy.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:35 pmyenta’s a chicken, na-na-na-na-na-boo-boo!
Comment by trueblue
Oh god, I need to email you a bunch of filthy language…
Comment by Yenta — August 14, 2006 @ 11:33
OMG!
August 14th, 2006 at 11:37 pmI am laughing hysterically right now!
I got Zooey! I got you! I got you! I got you!
You mean a president with 33 % support is doing the best for the people?
He said
I think any president does what he (or she someday, Condie Rice?) thinks is best for the American people.
I can insert a star wars analogy here :)
August 14th, 2006 at 11:38 pmI got Zooey! I got you! I got you! I got you!
Comment by trueblue
That you did, true. That’s one for you, 1,000,000 for me. :)
August 14th, 2006 at 11:39 pmI even forgot who I was for a minute…
I can insert a star wars analogy here :)
Comment by Tundra
Please…
August 14th, 2006 at 11:40 pmThat’s probably the only victory I will have all year!
August 14th, 2006 at 11:40 pmI have to agree with Big on the fact I don’t think Bush is doing anything he feels is wrong. He is doing everything he thinks will help.
Without debating specifics, I think he honestly thinks he is doing what needs to be done.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:40 pmwill keep my mouth shut on a military topic
GRRRRRRRR Go Big!
haha, you the man, Tundra. Nice to see another conservative here!!
August 14th, 2006 at 11:42 pmWithout debating specifics, I think he honestly thinks he is doing what needs to be done.
Comment by Tundra
So would any sociopath…
August 14th, 2006 at 11:45 pmWithout debating specifics, I think he honestly thinks he is doing what needs to be done.
Comment by Tundra — August 14, 2006 @ 11:40 pm
With all due respect, now that we are friends :), thats the same as to say nothing. Its like an assassin or rapist saying: well, I thought that a cold, sharp knife on his back was what he needed.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:46 pmtrueblue:
Here’s a link to quite a few videos, Loose Change among them:
http://www.question911.com/links.php
August 14th, 2006 at 11:46 pmSo would any sociopath…
Comment by Zooey — August 14, 2006 @ 11:45 pm
Oh, you fast photography lover!
August 14th, 2006 at 11:47 pmMy 12-year-old son keeps getting recruitment notices from ALL BRANCHES OF THE MILITARY….and I keep ripping them up and throwing them away…I didn’t think I needed to op him out yet because he is only 12!!!!!!!
August 14th, 2006 at 11:47 pmAnd, changing the subject: How are you, true? :)
August 14th, 2006 at 11:47 pmI disagree – I think Bush is doing what he thinks is good for him and his friends. He and his party have been determined to eliminate the middle class and they are well on their way.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:48 pmThey are the party of the haves and the have mores – his own words.
They are the party of I got mine, go get your own. Forgetting that they got theirs through unearned birthright and it’s pretty damn hard for the average two paycheck, two children household to make all the bills every month.
They are the party of reward the wealthy with more breaks, while breaking the middle class and the poor.
Just today I read where they are cutting the aid to hospitals and nursing homes for the poor even more , placing greater burden on the states, who have less help from the feds, so they are creating a downward spiral.
Don’t kid yourselves, guys, Bush is not compassionate, he is not looking out for you; he is looking out for number one. He has never done otherwise.
126 is for mr big and tundra.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:49 pmWell, my fun is over.
MinBlue just had an “aura”. (It’s a simple seizure.) She has “complex-partial epilepsy, which means the “aura” can go hog wild into a full blown seizure (not grand mal’s).
She’s now in my bed, and I must comfort her.
Good-night, TP.
And long live Clyde the Ripper!
August 14th, 2006 at 11:49 pmTalk to you tomorrow…
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — August 14, 2006 @ 11:46 pm
August 14th, 2006 at 11:50 pmHey, Trip. Are you being banned also? It is hard to find you around these days.
Take care, true & miniblue.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:51 pmAnd long live Clyde the Ripper!
Talk to you tomorrow…
Comment by trueblue — August 14, 2006 @ 11:49 pm
Oh. Sorry to hear that. Please, be well both of you.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:53 pmBush is doing what he feels is best.
So was the Emperor in Star Wars. Sure you can call him evil, but noone sees the lives that were saved by his policies. The trade wars were stopped. the general Joe on the street lived a good life. The real people hurt were those like the smugglers, selling their spice to kids, the people who wanted more than their share etc. The Empire provided all that was required. The rebels blew up the second Death Star, think of all of the independant contractors on there. People making a fair wage just going to work, when Lando and his buddies killed them.
There Zoo!
I know most people on here think Bush is planning a take over. I think he is simply saying I have to do this to protect people. Some others in Government may have that mentality, I just don’t THINK (Opinion noted) Bush has it in him.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:54 pmI didn’t think I needed to op him out yet because he is only 12!!!!!!!
If he was 18 would you throw them out?
August 14th, 2006 at 11:55 pmI didn’t think I needed to op him out yet because he is only 12!!!!!!!
Comment by madashell
Just this, and then I’m off the computer.
madashell,
My son and I cured the recruiter problem and here’s how we did it: My son has loose ligaments, and his left shoulder can dislocate almost at will, so he’s not recruitment material, not that he wanted to be anyway. My son telling the recruiters about his shoulder did no good, just as pretending to be gay, syaing he was a bedwetter, etc.
So one day, the last recruiter called. I picked up the phone, and I asked him very nicely if being able to dislocate my son’s shoulder just by pulling on it would be enough to make him stop calling. He stammered and said, probably. I said, good, because I’m pulling it out. I pretended to put down the phone, gave Zoo Jr the high sign, and he started screaming like mad. I got back on the phone, and the recruiter was gone. Go figure…
August 14th, 2006 at 11:59 pmmy earlier hello didn’t make it through the think police’s barricades!
Comment by no not no no
That’s what I figured. I wrote to TP about Clyde, and bitched at them about banning you, too.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:01 amIs really TP blocking true gestures of acknowledgments such as a hello?
August 15th, 2006 at 12:02 amIs really TP blocking true gestures of acknowledgments such as a hello?
Comment by Juan C
I think it’s James himself. They don’t care what he writes, he’s just supposed to stay gone. Thank goodness he doesn’t!
August 15th, 2006 at 12:05 am134. YOU BET I WOULD.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:22 amI think it’s James himself.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:24 amWhos James? Remember Zoo, I have an IQ of 80 while you can post a good conversation in 2 threads.
About the recruitments. One sincere question. Can the family or the kid just say no? And thats it?
August 15th, 2006 at 12:26 amAlso, as soon as my daughter turned 18 the calls kept coming. My nephew answered the phone one time and when they asked to talk to her, he asked what it was about. And then they asked again, and he said ABSOLUTELY NOT! Guess what – they stopped calling!
August 15th, 2006 at 12:27 amWhos James? Remember Zoo, I have an IQ of 80 while you can post a good conversation in 2 threads.
Comment by Juan C
80? Ha! James is James Risser, he’s been banned since he posted a bunch of stuff around the beginning of the Israel/Lebanon war. (Is it a war? I don’t know, it feels like a war to me.)
He’s been sneaking back in various disguises since then. I spot him and say, Hi j!
August 15th, 2006 at 12:30 amJuan, there is an opt out form the parents can fill out, and they will not be put on any recruitment list.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:30 amDidn’t I say I was going? I guess I better do it, then!
Goodnight all!
August 15th, 2006 at 12:34 amHe’s been sneaking back in various disguises since then. I spot him and say, Hi j!
Comment by Zooey — August 15, 2006 @ 12:30 am
Ahhh, Ohhh, so I have seen him from time to time as: no not none etc…is that him? Good. I liked a lot his posts. Hello, j.
Comment by madashell — August 15, 2006 @ 12:30 am
August 15th, 2006 at 12:35 amCant one just fill that one from the very beginning and save a lot of bilis? Or they keep pushing?
Bye, zoo. Be well.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:36 amOne sincere question. Can the family or the kid just say no? And thats it?
No, They can go in before 18 with permission, but once they are 18 they can make their own decission.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:37 amOk. Thanks guys. Im off. I should be in the fourth dream, but you know how it is. Take care all of you. Demand peace, always.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:41 amAnyone who joins the military now is foolish, or desperate because unable to find employment, but desperation can lead to being used as cannon fodder in Iraq for Bush!
August 15th, 2006 at 12:46 amThe draft is just a whisper away. Shhhh. Can you hear it?
August 15th, 2006 at 1:03 am300 soldiers made it home safe to American soil today after making it to the end of their tours of duty. Of course they never got past Alaska, before the Pentagon turned them right back around and sent them back to Iraq for another 120 day tour.
Lucky guys.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:02 amJudging by Hersh’s comments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5eBrfrWoTk
We are going to need a lot of troops, damn the methods! (And a lot of bodybags, I’d guess.)
August 15th, 2006 at 8:19 am“Anyone who joins the military now is foolish, or desperate because unable to find employment, but desperation can lead to being used as cannon fodder in Iraq for Bush!†Comment by Jay Randal
August 15th, 2006 at 1:04 pmExactly when are the LLL Mo0b@+5 going to stop believing their propaganda bullshit? All the services exceeded recruiting goals for the last PY. I know Jay think that everybody who joins up is “desperate or foolish†but I doubt jay has ever met someone wearing a uniform. I wonder how many dumb desperate foolish recruits it takes to fly an Apache helicopter, drive an Abrams tank, or repair a Jet engine. Apparently they found enough of them for the next year. How about this Jay: you go take the military entrance exam and see if you qualify for military service. If they are so desperate you probably qualify for immediate commissioning as a General with your in-depth military knowledge. After you are commissioned you can just lead a military coup. Those poor misguided, undereducated masses in uniform will undoubtedly follow you based on your superior intellect. Good luck and god speed.
I’s very odd that Mr Big would say that out of 6,000 complaints only 600 had merit!
Mert???
To whose definition does that apply?
Was BUSH’s war founded on merit? Or was that innuendo?
The mere fact that there was a complain, solidified the basis of the complaint. Therefore, the complain (not withstanding) has some plausible standard for implementation…
And (just so YOU know, Mr B) the ones that were seen as meritless, we (in fact) valid, but they were dismissed when the contracts were voided to avoid prosecution and an embarrassing trial about the failure to meet recruting goals again!!!
Meritless, depends on a point of view, which is what BUSH has been doing everytime he peeks at his approval rating!
I’m NOT at ZERO, so I guess that I am doing okay as Governor of the United States???
August 15th, 2006 at 2:33 pmKds Bbs Pics Childporn Underage Nudist
I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view
April 4th, 2008 at 1:24 pmCarpet Boy
What if i say that you where wrong and you need to do your research better, would you belief me?
April 6th, 2008 at 5:32 pm