Fox News Guest: Muslims Practice ‘Johnny- Come- Lately’ Religion And Pray To ‘Someone Who Wants To Kill You’
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Fox News Guest: Muslims Practice ‘Johnny- Come- Lately’ Religion And Pray To ‘Someone Who Wants To Kill You’
Today on Fox News’s Your World with Neil Cavuto, private investigator Bo Dietl argued that Arabs and Muslims should be subjected to racial profiling because Islam is a “Johnny-come-lately” religion and Muslims “pray to someone who wants to kill you.” Watch it:
[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2006/08/Dietl.320.240.flv]
Transcript:
And Neil, the bottom line is, this is a Johnny-come-lately religion. Christians and Jews have been around for 1600 years, 1500 years before. When they’re having a religion talking about killing people, I think we should reevaluate people who pray to someone who wants to kill you.
We do know one thing for sure – Dietl is a “Johnny-come-never” to religious tolerance.
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How do you spell racist bastard again?
August 14th, 2006 at 5:39 pmThis guy speaks for a lot of people.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:40 pmWelcome to redneck America.
Oh please, Bo Dietl is absolutely certifiable and too inept to handle a two-house paper route. The guy’s as unintelligible as the Budweiser ferret.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:40 pmJews, have been around for about what like 3,000 years, Christians, 2,000, and Islam around 1300 years. The Dianetics, now that is a johnny-come-lately religion.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:42 pmIn the past, The Daily Show has used Bo Dietl as their go-to guy when they wanted some insane ramblings about the war on terra. He’s no George Felix Allen, Jr. when it comes to racial tolerance.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:42 pmMore racism. More and more and more racism.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:42 pmHe sucks!
August 14th, 2006 at 5:42 pmThis guy is a clown. As such, this thread thould not be taken seriously.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:45 pmCome on, y’all. You’ve seen this guy before. This is THE guy Fox goes to ON PURPOSE to get some over-the-top, ridiculously racist bullshit statements. He’s PAID to say this red-meat shit. This is all he does every time he comes on….
August 14th, 2006 at 5:45 pmOh please, Bo Dietl is absolutely certifiable and too inept to handle a two-house paper route. The guy’s as unintelligible as the Budweiser ferret.
Comment by Badmoodman — August 14, 2006 @ 5:40 pm
Makes him a perfect Faux News guest and expert in the field of religion. Faux News continues to build upon it’s arsenal of credentialed experts…
August 14th, 2006 at 5:46 pmConservatives == Clowns
This is what they have been reduced to? Weird. No wonder America as I knew it no longer exists.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:47 pmA complete and total idiot. ANYONE that believes a word this guy says is equally idiotic.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:49 pm“I think we should reevaluate people who pray to someone who wants to kill you.”
That’s right! It’s horrible when people take religion too far! Thank goodness that never happens within any other religions!
August 14th, 2006 at 5:49 pmAnyone who has heard Bo Dietl even just a few times on Imus knows he has nothing but scar tissue for brains.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:52 pmIt’s more like: Jews over 5,000 years, Christians for over 2000 years and Muslims for over 1600 years. These bigots can never get their facts straight.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:53 pmThe Torah and the Bible both say that the Jewish and Christian gods want to kill all non-believers of their respective religions as well. But as usual for these self-proclaimed prophets, they don’t read their own books. Typical hypocritical newspeak…
August 14th, 2006 at 5:56 pmBo should spend more time investigating his privates. They seem to be missing.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:56 pmIf your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.
Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB
August 14th, 2006 at 5:58 pmDarn those Muslims. I mean it’s not like Christians ever killed in the name of THEIR god before. Wacky people.
August 14th, 2006 at 5:59 pmJeez thanks for NUTHIN, Bo Dietl and Fox News — care to say anything else to embolden the terrorists?
August 14th, 2006 at 6:00 pmjust another example of quality FOX broadcasting.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:01 pmBut unbelievable, that can be translated in so many ways!
August 14th, 2006 at 6:01 pmIt’s not literal. You know, like KILL them with kindness! STONE them with roses? Right? I bet that’s the next line. Just like liberals to take things out of context!
The difference between a dangerous cult and an established religion is about 100 years. See: Mormons, Christian Science, Seventh-Day Adventists, the Witnesses, Falun Gong etc.
…not to mention Hebrews, Christians, Mohammedans, Shiia, Buddhists, Shinto, Lutherans, etc.
This guys misses the point. There are 1.2 BILLION Muslims. Even if 1% of 1% of 1% of them is totally berserker nuts–that’s still 1200 people. How many folks are heading up Al Qaeda, Islamic Jihad, Jamaa Islamiya, etc anyway?
August 14th, 2006 at 6:03 pmthis jackass knows nothing about islam, and what’s worse, he doesn’t care.
that’s the whole problem with this administration: they know nothing about the middle east, but somehow they believe they can reshape it like clay.
meanwhile the rest of us get to painfully watch as they discover the middle east is not clay — it’s friggin’ c4.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:05 pmJust like liberals to take things out of context!
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 6:01 pm
Hey, haven’t seen you in a while. Everything good on your end?
I’m sure this is out of context as well. I’m sure it’s mean that you’re supposed to slaughter these children with kitten whiskers…. oh wait, that’s tickle…
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants.
—Isaiah 14:21 NAB
Much, much more of killer gods at:
http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm
August 14th, 2006 at 6:05 pmYou Have to Kill
Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:06 pm—Jeremiah 48:10 NAB
Bo Dietl is working on keeping his place on the Bernard Kerik list of GOP “security expert” shitheads.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:06 pmplayground politics.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:06 pmHow do you spell racist bastard again?
Comment by kindness — August 14, 2006 @ 5:39 pm
i think you got it right…
as does snookered...
August 14th, 2006 at 6:07 pma lot of people went “hell yah” when they heard that…
I guess that makes the one true religon what? The Egytians, worshiping the sun? Afterall that is at least 6000 years old which would make christianity a johnnie-come-lately religon.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:08 pmWhen they’re having a religion talking about killing people, I think we should reevaluate people who pray to someone who wants to kill you.
The Christian Bible talks about killing people. Encourages it, in fact.
Didn’t we see Emperor Bush praying to a Christian god??
So let me guess. The comment at the top applies to King George of America. Right? I’m sure this is what the commentator was thinking. Yes. Yes. Yes.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:09 pmThat’s right, it’s mistranslated. You see, in the original Hebrew, the characters for “slaughter” and “tickle” were quite similar, strangely enough. And in the second passage, that should be “puppy” not “sword”
August 14th, 2006 at 6:10 pmAnd I am well, thank you. You?
Even earlier than the Egyptians, the Celts were worshipping nature, including the sun around 8,000 to 10,000 years ago.
And before the Celts, there was Animism, the oldest known religion of all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animism
August 14th, 2006 at 6:12 pm22 – HEY! leave me outta that. I’m not killin’ anyone….
August 14th, 2006 at 6:12 pmHow do you spell racist bastard again?
Comment by kindness — August 14, 2006 @ 5:39
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This is whats wrong with America ,Kindness your right!
I am astounded by this Faux News that passes itself off at Journalism.
Everyone lets call Faux news as Demand and Apology.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:13 pmAnd in the second passage, that should be “puppy†not “swordâ€
Ah, I see. You’re very wise :)
So, could you explain the contradiction at the beginning of the Bible where there are two different creation stories?
And I am well, thank you. You?
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 6:10 pm
Glad to hear that. I’m excellent. Thanks. Started a new job at a new school that I love. I’m teaching future architects the importance of caring for the environment and its inhabitants. They are great kids.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:16 pmThe Holy Church of Me hasn’t been around too long, but I wrote down on a cocktail napkin that it’s the one true faith, ergo….
August 14th, 2006 at 6:17 pmThe Flying Spaghetti Monster is the one true god.
http://www.venganza.org/
August 14th, 2006 at 6:18 pmUnbelievable, the world truly needs more Mike Bradys. I’m glad things are going well.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:19 pm“And Neil, the bottom line is, this is a Johnny-come-lately religion.”
I am sure Mormons would be delighted to know that theirs is also a “Johny-come-lately” religion.
And if a religion deserves respect because of its “seniority”, Hinduism is even older.
Christians and Jews have been around for 1600 years, 1500 years before.
Judaism maybe. Christianity, no way: Muhammad was spreading Islam in the early 7th century.
But facts matter little when you are one hateful bigot.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:19 pmHokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.
-Han Solo
Hmm He said it first, I wonder if that means something?
August 14th, 2006 at 6:20 pmMore Christiano-Facist propaganda.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:20 pmHis noodly goodness! Now Pastafarianism truly is a great religion.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:20 pmIsraeli war to distract people from Iraq = miserable failure. “Red Alert” to prop up Loserman = miserable failure. Watch out. Chimp Boy and his swinish cabal will pull another 9/11.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:22 pm25 —-Thanks for the link Unbelievable.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:23 pmUnbelievable, the world truly needs more Mike Bradys. I’m glad things are going well.
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 6:19 pm
They didn’t even know who he is! I tried to make a joke about him being my favorite architect and they said “who”? I feel so old :)
Anyway, back on topic… We all know how much I like to point out the hypocrisy in organized religion :)
August 14th, 2006 at 6:24 pmThey should show some of Bo’s interviews from The Daily Show–the one where he was supposed to act like he was describing Santa Claus to kids without using the F word was hysterical. I doubt if anyone would be listening to Bo anymore…okay, maybe O’Lielly.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:25 pmAnyway, back on topic… We all know how much I like to point out the hypocrisy in organized religion
And yet you praise the Flying Spaghetti Monster?! Talk about hypocrisy.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:27 pmThanks for the link Unbelievable.
Comment by Wayne — August 14, 2006 @ 6:23 pm
You’re welcome. I can go to pasta heaven now, I converted a heathen… :)
August 14th, 2006 at 6:27 pmThere are beer volcanos in Pasta Heaven
August 14th, 2006 at 6:29 pmAnd yet you praise the Flying Spaghetti Monster?! Talk about hypocrisy.
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 6:27 pm
It’s not hypocrisy when you are defending the one true god… FSM. Everyone else is a total hypocrite. Not the Pastafarians, though. Our noodly Lord is on our side in the fight against the infidels.
FSM bless America!
August 14th, 2006 at 6:30 pmAnd the christian god doesn’t want to kill you too? Tell that to all non-christians, heathens, adulterers, anyone who swore at their parents, anyone who had during their period… (All are condemed to death in Deuteronomy and Leviticus)
Oh, and christians weren’t around for 1500 years before Islam either. Get your facts straight. Christians have probably been around for maybe 500 years longer. Not 1500.
But, if you really read history, christianity itself is a johnny-come-late religion. Tons of Pagan religions including the sun worshipers (that christianity all leeched off by the way) existed before it.
Celts were worshipping nature, including the sun around 8,000 to 10,000 years ago.
Hmm, can we convince this to the christians who for some reason believe the earth is only 6000 years old?
But really, he flooded the earth, purposefully hardened the heart of the pharoah to kill all 1st born in egypt, killed someone for ‘withdrawing’, killed lot’s wife for turning around, destoryed Saddam and Gemora, led about 10 different genocides (which killed 100,000+), killed thousands of isralites just after presenting the 10 commandments…
Could I go on? nah, I’ll stop here.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:31 pmApparently you can read the hate mail (from Christians of course)… and leave a comment:
http://fsm.typepad.com/hatemail/
August 14th, 2006 at 6:31 pmThat’s such a brilliant site.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:31 pmWho said that Islam calls for killing people! I mean the word Islam is even derived from “Salam” the arabic word for “peace” which happens to be one of the 99 names that muslims refer to Allah with.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:32 pmJake, we’ve already established those are all typos!
August 14th, 2006 at 6:33 pmI LOVE the fact that prog-wacks have found a religion they CAN and WILL defend. Who woulda thunk???? In the last thirty years, it is easy to find extremist Islamo-wacks committing acts of terrorism…it’s a bit tougher for the other major religions to come close. Maybe in 1300 years the Islamo-wacks will evolve from barbarity to civility….One can hope….
August 14th, 2006 at 6:35 pmHey, Aphrodite, I almost didn’t recognize your post without the asterisks! Hope you are well.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:38 pmSeriously, this guy is an ignorant moron, don’t give him any play. Make this idiot just go away
August 14th, 2006 at 6:39 pmIslam is a johnny-come-lately religion? Does this guy have a functioning brain?
August 14th, 2006 at 6:40 pmOr does he just reflexively rattle off at the mouth?
Bigotry knows no bounds; particularly noticeable on Fox.
Bo Dietl is a thug that likes to go on air and threaten people with smear attacks.
This is what he said he’d do to Andrea Mackris, because she sued pervert Bill O”Rielly:
“There’s no case of sexual harassment there and now what we’re going to do as investigators now is take her credibility and show the court, if it ever goes there, her credibility falling apart. This is going to be a message to people. When you file these frivolous lawsuits and you think you’re going to get people that are well known give you money for garbage like this, we’re going to investigate you. We’re going to uncover things that we’ve already—about your life so you’re wide open right now. So beware, people.â€
August 14th, 2006 at 6:41 pmUnbelievable, again, the translation from the original Hebrew is just way off here.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:41 pmit’s called the 1st amendment.
but self-proclaimed deity fascist whore’s don’t know what that is.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:41 pm57
Ma, for some of the most barbaric acts commited by religious nuts, all you have to do is read the history of the inquisition. Better yet, read the bible itself
Christianity has as much or more blood on its hands as any other religion
Wait, you actually never read the articles in this thread, so it’s doubtfull you could actually read a history book. Sorry to ask so much
August 14th, 2006 at 6:42 pmWilco,
Care to educate me?
August 14th, 2006 at 6:43 pmmighty aphrodite
I suggest you switch your T.V. off and experience muslims lifestyle first hand, then whatever you come out of this experience will be accepted from you. Educate yourself before casting judgements.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:43 pmThe following are the characteristics of the “sun of God”:
The sun “dies” for three days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops in its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be “born of a Virgin.”
The sun is the “Light of the World.”
The sun “cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him.”
The sun rising in the morning is the “Savior of mankind.”
The sun wears a corona, “crown of thorns” or halo.71
The sun “walks on water.”
The sun’s “followers,” “helpers” or “disciples” are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the “Most High”; thus, “he” begins “his Father’s work” at “age” 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30°; hence, the “Sun of God” begins his ministry at “age” 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or “crucified,” which represents its passing through the equinoxes, the vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected
http://www.truthbeknown.com/origins5.htm
August 14th, 2006 at 6:44 pmMuslims pray to Mohammed, a prophet, who BTW died quite a long time ago.
Deutromony has as much smite and kill your religious enemy as the Quran does, the evangelicals need alot of Jews to die so they can be saved. Over at Freeper.com we find people praying to Jesus, and God, for the death of liberals, jews, muslims and anybody who doesn’t their belief.
I have seen many a post from the Jewish religion as well Prayng for the death of their religious enemies. I have seen atheists ask for the death of non atheists…..it never ends…
We have today these same words from prophets passed that have cause much death and destruction . Yet we are apparently still trapped by these words, by our beliefs, that one mans belief is more righteous than anothers man’s belief system.
One belief is not more right than another belief because all beliefs are equally unproven.
I believe the sky is Purple, You may believe it is blue.
Should I pray to my God to kill all those that say the sky is blue?
Should the purps form a group of like minded purps to defeat the blues?
And wouldn’t then the blues also form a group to counter my group?
And the battle, of iignorance, would begin again.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:45 pmwhere do you live because me and my freinds are going to come and kick you ass you f*cking idiot. and the next time you call my god a faggot i will jam another oar up your ass and you will have three oars up your ass and your boyfriends dick and i will super glue those oars before i put them in your ass. you are a dog f*cker, and a spaghetti monster f*cker and a devil f*cker and a boyfrien f*cker.
Correctly translated: You are a child of God.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:45 pmWere Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, barbaric?
August 14th, 2006 at 6:47 pmHow many did they kill in G_ds name?
Trinary Suka
I will have to correct you. Mohammad is the prophet, he is human so muslims don’t pray to him —-> They pray to GOD who sent Mohammad.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:49 pmI couldn’t read all the comments, but does the math strike you as funny? you, in the front row
August 14th, 2006 at 6:49 pmyep, that was about when the bible was written. But is that what he is trying to say?
#47 Jane,
Thanks for that reminder about the Daily Show appearance – NOW i recall where I saw that idiot before. What a jackass.
And everyone with the references to killing, slaying, and general smiting told in the Bible, thanks for all the great reminders. Christians and Jews who think they are the selected among God’s children need to be picked up by their short hairs.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:50 pmThey think do unto others, and love thy neighbor apply only to those like themselves.
Islam does call for killing people. for example in the Hadith it commands followers of Allah to murder apostates. There are also numerous passage in the Koran itself that unambigiously order violence in the name of Islam.
The same types of monsterous things are in the Bible, but thankfully aren’t followed literally by quite as many people. I wish Liberals weren’t so timid about criticizing Islam. It is irrational like all religions and has led to the oppression of people for centuries.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:51 pm#72 – …I will have to correct you. Mohammad is the prophet, he is human so muslims don’t pray to him —-> They pray to GOD who sent Mohammad.
Additionally, Muslims revere Jesus (yes, they do, surprise, surprise, surprise), Isiah(sp?), and Abraham. There are many shared prophets between them.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:52 pmKierkegaard also liked Abraham. And he was a moron.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:54 pmI find your lack of faith disturbing.
Darth Vader
August 14th, 2006 at 6:54 pmCorrectly translated: You are a child of God.
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 6:45 pm
Man, that Hebrew translation into English is a bitch! Good thing we have you here to translate…
August 14th, 2006 at 6:55 pmYeah, but isn’t this the dude they make fun of on The Daily Show. The one who can’t stop using the f-word even when they ask him to try and stop?
How did this guy become a Fox expert?
August 14th, 2006 at 6:56 pmHow many did they kill in G_ds name?
Comment by PJ — August 14, 2006 @ 6:47 pm
Less than Hitler, self-professed Christian, alone.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:57 pm#75 Matt bors
The passages you talk of, call for killing only if they were taken out of context. You don’t just take the verse that calls for killing without referring to the one before or after to understand the meaning.
August 14th, 2006 at 6:57 pmThey think do unto others, and love thy neighbor apply only to those like themselves.
Comment by Marie — August 14, 2006 @ 6:50 pm
Well said!
August 14th, 2006 at 6:58 pmGood thing we have you here to translate…
Indeed! What would this site do without me?
August 14th, 2006 at 6:58 pmTranscript:
And Neil, the bottom line is, this is a Johnny-come-lately religion. Christians and Jews have been around for 1600 years, 1500 years before. When they’re having a religion talking about killing people, I think we should reevaluate people who pray to someone who wants to kill you.
We do know one thing for sure – Dietl is a “Johnny-come-never†to religious tolerance.
And to religiouos knowledge. Islam came six centuries after Christianity, if that.
Cheers,
August 14th, 2006 at 6:59 pmin G_ds name?
Comment by PJ — August 14, 2006 @ 6:47 pm
what? is that an obscene word to you? curious…
August 14th, 2006 at 6:59 pm#67 – Observer suggests, “Observe muslim lifestyle” first hand – or first neck??? I know some very nice assimilated Muslims – the women are quite liberated and very bright – - every assimilated Muslim man I know is very smart and a HUGE chauvinist. (Mr. Aphrodite said its a cultural thing.) To their credit, they ARE appalled and embarrassed, but one guy said at a soccer BBQ, “The TSA should thoroughly search EVERYOE who looks like me – until the Swedish grandmas take up bomb-making….
August 14th, 2006 at 6:59 pmAnd to religiouos knowledge. Islam came six centuries after Christianity, if that.
Which is why I devote my life to Odin, His one-eyed philandering goodness.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:00 pmOr maybe Zeus. He gets all the chicks.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:02 pmMaybe today’s religion is tomorrows mythology?
August 14th, 2006 at 7:02 pmBo Dietl: Security Expert Extraordinaire…
I was reading through this post at Think Progress when I thought the picture and name looked vaguely familiar:As it turns out, Mr. Dietl appeared on The Daily Show last summer. You may remember him:Bo Dietl, a security expert, says……
August 14th, 2006 at 7:02 pmI love it when MA writes, it’s hard to find people willing to make complete asses of themselves for everyone’s amusement but she does it everytime. Luckily she gets paid what her opinions are worth, nothing.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:02 pmkaty you are so vicious.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:02 pmkaty is suppose to be cute.
I wish Liberals weren’t so timid about criticizing Islam. It is irrational like all religions and has led to the oppression of people for centuries.
Comment by Matt bors — August 14, 2006 @ 6:51 pm
I lump them all together in the Christo-Islamo-Judeo monotheism tree sprung out of violent Middle Easterm origins. All equally rabid and hypocritical. So – it’s rather ironic how much we hate the Middle East in this country, huh?
I’m with you, I think organized religion in general is dangerous. They teach people to believe instead of think. I think those who are the least dangerous are theones who choose to ignore the judgmental and hateful stuff and instead just take the Jesus or Mohammed said be nice aspects of it.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:03 pmIndeed! What would this site do without me?
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 6:58 pm
Implode? Though I think some people are taking you literally. Might be a good time to tell everyone that we are using satire… You do remember how we met? :)
August 14th, 2006 at 7:06 pmSo – it’s rather ironic how much we hate the Middle East in this country
Says who? I think it would make a great 51st state!
August 14th, 2006 at 7:07 pm#67 – Observer suggests, “Observe muslim lifestyle†first hand – or first neck??? I know some very nice assimilated Muslims – the women are quite liberated and very bright – - every assimilated Muslim man I know is very smart and a HUGE chauvinist. (Mr. Aphrodite said its a cultural thing.) To their credit, they ARE appalled and embarrassed, but one guy said at a soccer BBQ, “The TSA should thoroughly search EVERYOE who looks like me – until the Swedish grandmas take up bomb-making….
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 14, 2006 @ 6:59 pm
August 14th, 2006 at 7:08 pmYou are such a total fraud–you have no friends and no Muslim said that to you. As always you are a piece of $hit. Say hi to Mr. Afro for me. You could not lie your way out of—–what ever.
Maybe today’s religion is tomorrows mythology?
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 7:02 pm
Guaranteed. Just ask the Greeks. Or the Romans.
Here’s a god picker for you… http://www.godchecker.com/
August 14th, 2006 at 7:08 pm#90
August 14th, 2006 at 7:09 pmNo doubt in my mind.
I heard that ol’ Bo is soon going to be replacing Michael Chertoff as head of homeland security.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:10 pmHitler was not a christian.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:10 pmProgressives/agnostics are unique in that they do not need any god to tell them to kill.
They do it all by themselves. Christians are not the only ones who kill.
I may be wrong, but wasn’t The Islamic religion around befor Christianity? But i guess in Bo’s narrow minded life….
August 14th, 2006 at 7:10 pm#82 Observer
Can you show me how to interpret these passages peacefully?
Excerpt K 5:033
Set 21, Count 54
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned
Excerpt K 8:012
August 14th, 2006 at 7:10 pmSet 28, Count 62
…make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
103
No Islam came after Christianity.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:11 pm#65 – “Ma, for some of the most barbaric acts commited by religious nuts, all you have to do is read the history of the inquisition. Better yet, read the bible itself
Christianity has as much or more blood on its hands as any other religion…”
Comment by Wayne
*******Wayne – I wrote, “In the last thirty years, it is easy to find extremist Islamo-wacks committing acts of terrorism…” I guess you are unaware that the Bible is OLDER than thirty years – what else could explain your idiotic statement ?? Yes, Wayne, even many contemporary 8th grade graduates KNOW about the bloody wars in the name of religion. But I bet a fact that will disturb YOU and many fellow prog-wacks: Communism killed more people than any other ideology….
August 14th, 2006 at 7:11 pmP. S. The “Useful Idioits” club sends you a big WELCOME!!
Says who? I think it would make a great 51st state!
Comment by Tundra — August 14, 2006 @ 7:07 pm
No, that’s Canada. Mexico is 52nd. The Middle East, as a united arab state, can be 53rd. :)
Welcome back. How was your golf tournament?
August 14th, 2006 at 7:12 pmSays who? I think it would make a great 51st state!
Comment by Tundra
That would be the ticket, then they would be free from the governement spying on them, jailing them without due process, trying to persecute them for different opinions or religion or sexual orientation…….
oh wait….
August 14th, 2006 at 7:12 pmlet’s see, america tried that in WW2 with the japanese – yeah, there’s the tax dollars still working.
and the nazis tried that approach in WW2 also, we all know how that ended.
so, to take a self-proclaimed deity at value words – let’s try a failed policy approach once more….
what is the famous quote regarding the definition of insanity?
August 14th, 2006 at 7:12 pmThe “Useful Idioits†club sends you a big WELCOME!!
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 14, 2006 @ 7:11 pm
And you are the Club’s official greeter?
August 14th, 2006 at 7:12 pmThe punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned
See there is a peaceful way out!!
August 14th, 2006 at 7:13 pmUnbelievable? What’s satire?
August 14th, 2006 at 7:13 pmwhat iteration of the bible?
August 14th, 2006 at 7:13 pmIf we make Canada 51 then we won’t have anyone to blame, hmmmmm let’s just make it a territory then.
The Golf tournament is going well, it’s still a couple weeks away. Still have a few things to do but overall I think it is coming well for a first try at it.
How have you been?
August 14th, 2006 at 7:15 pmCommunism killed more people than any other ideology….
mighty aphid
No, religion has murdered more people than Communism ever did.
“P. S. The “Useful Idioits†club sends you a big WELCOME!!”
No thanks, I don’t want to join the Republican Party
August 14th, 2006 at 7:16 pmCommunism killed more people than any other ideology….
P. S. The “Useful Idioits†club sends you a big WELCOME!!
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 14, 2006 @ 7:11 pm
Really? post the link to that from a verifiable source. We are talking about the history of the world. Post it fat , bald ,sweaty one.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:16 pmHitler was not a christian.
Oh yes he was…
“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exposed.”
—Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922, published in My New Order
Progressives/agnostics are unique in that they do not need any god to tell them to kill. They do it all by themselves.
15% of Americans are non-religious. Yet less than 1% of people in prisons and jails are non-religious. That makes the religious folks more criminal.
Christians are not the only ones who kill.
Comment by PJ — August 14, 2006 @ 7:10 pm
Just the most. Not a good thing to be number one at killing…
August 14th, 2006 at 7:17 pmLess than Hitler, self-professed Christian, alone.
Comment by unbelievable
I am glad someone is keeping score. What is the kill score for the Christians vs. atheists/agnostics? Anyone know?
August 14th, 2006 at 7:18 pmThaank goodness our friends and allies did not desert us during our civil war”.-comment by Mighty Aphrodite-August 3, 2006 @ 3:22 pm
August 14th, 2006 at 7:20 pm
#70:…and you will have three oars up your ass… – - Yep, you’ll be three shits to the wind.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:21 pmActually, I think the Romans are still in play. Christianity is, after all, the official state religion of the Holy Roman Empire.
Comment by Bluedog49 — August 14, 2006 @ 7:11 pm
The Romans were first pagans. They took the pagan gods of the Latins and merged them withthe gods of the Greeks. (I took a semester Lit. course on Greek and Roman mythology in college). Their gods were mostly symbolic. They were more infatuated as a culture with the man anatomy.
Actually, the Holy Roman Empire wasn’t in Rome. Constantine moved the Roman Empire to Istanbul, where after the Empire crumbled, he changed the religion to Christianity. The Holy Roman Empire was actually seated in Eastern European cities – including Prague. It was an attempt to reconsitute the Roman Empire by the Vatican.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:24 pmHitler was not a christian.
Progressives/agnostics are unique in that they do not need any god to tell them to kill.
They do it all by themselves. Christians are not the only ones who kill.
Comment by PJ — August 14, 2006 @ 7:10 pm
pj, He claimed he was one just like Bushco. So who are your top ten in killing people, since it seems you are keeping score? That stuff kinda turn you on?
August 14th, 2006 at 7:24 pmThank you for your post, unbelievable.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:24 pmNot a good thing to be number one at killing
Yeah, it’s even worse to be number 2. Everyone makes fun of you. You parents say “why can’t you be more like #1?”
August 14th, 2006 at 7:24 pmIt’s horrible.
What’s satire?
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 7:13 pm
Proceed at your own risk then. And don’t say I didn’t warn you. :)
August 14th, 2006 at 7:26 pmYeah, it’s even worse to be number 2. Everyone makes fun of you. You parents say “why can’t you be more like #1?â€
It’s horrible.
You never get the good sponsors and get left with the gods who don’t have enough revenue to help you along.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:28 pmHow have you been?
Comment by Tundra — August 14, 2006 @ 7:15 pm
Squeegie told me abnout the tournament. I think that validates the fact that it is possible to be a conservative and a good guy :). Though I’m convinced that you are an anomaly. You’ve been missed around here.
I’m great. Loving the new job. Lots of hard work getting a new school and new program going, but it’s worth it.
Welcome back!
August 14th, 2006 at 7:29 pmComment by unbelievable — August 14, 2006 @ 7:24 pm
Great post unB, but, wasted on the brain dead. They really seem to get more deranged each day. I always like your stuff–I don’t have the time to wack-em back that often.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:29 pmunbelievable
Living in a garage does not make me a car.
Using religious words does not make anyone a christian.
You live in a fantasy world.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:30 pm#104
are you sure you got the references right? Because I don’t seem to be able to get to the verses you refer to.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:30 pmP. S. The “Useful Idioits†club sends you a big WELCOME!!
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 14, 2006 @ 7:11 pm
I see a group of retards have elected a new leader! Congrats Mighty you have finally found your place. Now is that the first or second Monday each month you meet?
August 14th, 2006 at 7:33 pmWhy has this thread been taken over by a bunch of fools? In case you haven’t noticed, the whole point of this Rupert Murdoch approved slanderous statement about Islam is to set up yet another war. Get it?
August 14th, 2006 at 7:34 pmA little basic religious history since it seems that there is a need for some factual accuracy in these posts, particularly given the unbelievable ignorance of Dietl’s comment.
The Torah, written by several authors over a number of centuries, was codified around 640 BCE during the buildout of the kingdom of Judea though the first complete collection of books that were codified into the Torah found so far was dated at 1000 BCE.
The first known writing regarding Christianity came from Paul and date 30 CE, but the religion itself was not codified (the Bible with the Gospels) until much later, between 170 CE and 210 CE and later following the Councils of Alexandria and Nicea.
The Islamic calendar starts in 622CE with the Hijra exodus following several years of development from the visions and the writing of the Koran. Following the death of the Prophet in 632 CE the religion split into the Sunni and Shia sects.
There is so much more to the stories but for now, these basic facts should suffice.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:35 pmTrue, all loyal Communists were atheists, but they were atheists because of their Communism — not Communists because of their atheism. In fact, Communism dictated that Soviet citizens (subjects) become atheists, which went much further than the role Christianity then played in America, when our currency did not say, “In God We Trust” and our Pledge of Allegiance did not say, “under God.” This situation is rapidly changing in America today, partly as a reaction to Communism: before, Christianity was simply a choice that America offered her citizens; since the Cold War, Christianity has been exploited to bolster an American sense of nationalism.
The role that atheism played in Communism was as that of State Dogma (I will fall short of saying State Religion). This is most easily seen in the pronouncements of the Soviet Cosmonauts. Yuri Gagarin, the first man in orbit (preceding John Glenn by a few weeks), announced from his capsule: “I don’t see any god up here” — as if that has anything even remotely to do with what the Christians claim; this is, rather, a show of nationalistic contempt toward the United States. Gherman Titov, the first man to spend any significant amount of time in orbit, is quoted as saying, “I am high in the sky, and still I do not see the face of god” — again showing contempt for the claims of Christianity, as a way to bolster Soviet nationalism against the United States.
http://www.positiveatheism.org/mail/eml9169.htm
August 14th, 2006 at 7:35 pmThus, if anybody killed for Communism, they killed for Communism or for the Soviet Union, they did not kill for atheism. In fact, many atheistic Anarchists were killed by the Communists. But during the Inquisition and during the Witch Hunts, people killed for Christ and for no other reason. They burned our forebears in direct obedience to the command in John 15:6: “If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” Atheism has no such commandment and needs the help of no State to make its case before humans.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:36 pmWhy has this thread been taken over by a bunch of fools?
My mother called me a fool once. Once!
August 14th, 2006 at 7:36 pmpj, He claimed he was one just like Bushco. So who are your top ten in killing people, since it seems you are keeping score? That stuff kinda turn you on?
Comment by Joefriday
Joe a little homework assigment for you and katy the Googlemeister.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:38 pmCheck places like Russia, China, Cambodia, Rwanda, Sudan etc. and where ever you want and post it.
#136
“The Islamic calendar starts in 622CE with the Hijra exodus following several years of development from the visions and the writing of the Koran.”
13 years to be exact were between the vision and the Hijra.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:38 pmThank you for your post, unbelievable.
Comment by Bluedog49 — August 14, 2006 @ 7:24 pm
No problem. I’m teaching Ancient Rome tomorrow… so I just read about it :). I’m slowly educating myself after a few years removed from the laziness of following someone else’s ideology. It’s taking a while… :)
August 14th, 2006 at 7:39 pmunbelievable
August 14th, 2006 at 7:41 pmYou are pretty good at making stuff up.
You are one heck of a bullsh*tter.
Is there anyone lower on the “commentator” list than Dietl? For crissake is a comedy foil for another irrelevent a**hole, Imus. Why waste your time? How many people watch Cavuto?
August 14th, 2006 at 7:42 pmGreat post unB, but, wasted on the brain dead. They really seem to get more deranged each day. I always like your stuff–I don’t have the time to wack-em back that often.
Comment by Joefriday — August 14, 2006 @ 7:29 pm
Thanks Joe. I guess I bother because I hope they will just STFU? Eventually?
This is my biggest issue with the fanatics. I make the time to stand up against religious oppression. Though you certain contribute your fair share of wacks :).
It’s amazing what blind anything will cause people to do. Sad that the rest of us have to live with the fall out of it.
Only 33% of the world’s population is Christian. Not a majority. Not even close…
August 14th, 2006 at 7:43 pmI think that validates the fact that it is possible to be a conservative and a good guy
I’m a Libertarian remember :)
Not that that earns me any points around here, but hey I get to have an opposing view on some things and still don’t care much for any of the politicians in office, so it gets to take the you neocon, bush lovin argument away.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:43 pmLiving in a garage does not make me a car.
What a ridiculous analogy that has nothing to do with the conversation or topic before us.
Using religious words does not make anyone a christian.
You guys allow anyone into the club who claims to be one of you. Not my rule.
You live in a fantasy world.
Comment by PJ — August 14, 2006 @ 7:30 pm
No dear, that would most definitely be you. I don’t believe in heaven or hell. But you do… hmmmm….
August 14th, 2006 at 7:46 pmunbelievable you a educated bullsh*tter. Cool!
August 14th, 2006 at 7:46 pmComment # # by Badmoodman – Sir: Your remark is an insult to the ferret .
August 14th, 2006 at 7:49 pmUnbelievable, you call PJ “dear”? I’m jealous. So I’m going to storm on out of here. No, of course it has nothing to do with finally getting off of work! Nothing at all!
August 14th, 2006 at 7:53 pmOh, and you’re all a bunch of blasphemers and Jesus hates you.
Joe a little homework assigment for you and katy the Googlemeister.
Check places like Russia, China, Cambodia, Rwanda, Sudan etc. and where ever you want and post it.
Comment by PJ — August 14, 2006 @ 7:38 pm
pj, your the one that said communism killed more people than any other form of “government” I guess. You stated what you said was a “fact” I replied for you to post a link to that “fact”, the burden is on you to support your post. You seem to miss the jest of it–would it make a difference if one form of religon or government killed 10,000,101 people and the other 10,000,103 and that makes the former better than the latter?? Do you have a coherent point you would like to make and debate?
August 14th, 2006 at 7:54 pmThe Daily Show uses this guy to get laughs, just by letting him talk.
Fox uses him as an analyst, as he says the same stuff.
Draw your own conclusions.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:55 pmYou aren’t going to believe this:
WASHINGTON – President Bush said Monday that Israel defeated Hezbollah’s guerrillas in the monthlong Mideast war and that the Islamic militants were to blame for the deaths of hundreds of Lebanese civilians.
This ass thinks Israel won, would somebody get the President his ritalin, he’s not paying attention. This ass supplied the bombs Israel used to kill innocent women and children and he thinks Hezbollah is responsible for lebanese deaths. I hate to let him know the rest of the world thinks he is responsible. This ass delayed the ceasefire a whole month to allow more innocent civilians to die and he still is able to rationalize the fact he is doing God’s work.
August 14th, 2006 at 7:57 pmBush ‘helped Israeli attack on Lebanon’
Dan Glaister in Los Angeles
Monday August 14, 2006
The Guardian
The US government was closely involved in planning the Israeli campaign in Lebanon, even before Hizbullah seized two Israeli soldiers in a cross border raids in July. American and Israeli officials met in the spring, discussing plans on how to tackle Hizbullah, according to a report published yesterday.
The veteran investigative journalist Seymour Hersh writes in the current issue of the New Yorker magazine that Israeli government officials travelled to the US in May to share plans for attacking Hizbullah.
Quoting a US government consultant, Hersh said: “Earlier this summer … several Israeli officials visited Washington, separately, ‘to get a green light for the bombing operation and to find out how much the United States would bear’.”
The Israeli action, current and former government officials told Hersh, chimed with the Bush administration’s desire to reduce the threat of possible Hizbullah retaliation against Israel should the US launch a military strike against Iran.
“A successful Israeli Air Force bombing campaign … could ease Israel’s security concerns and also serve as a prelude to a potential American pre-emptive attack to destroy Iran’s nuclear installations,” sources told Hersh.
Yesterday Mr Hersh told CNN: “July was a pretext for a major offensive that had been in the works for a long time. Israel’s attack was going to be a model for the attack they really want to do. They really want to go after Iran.”
An unnamed Pentagon consultant told Hersh: “It was our intention to have Hizbullah diminished and now we have someone else doing it.”
Officials from the state department and the Pentagon denied the report. A spokesman for the National Security Council told Hersh that “The Israeli government gave no official in Washington any reason to believe that Israel was planning to attack.”
August 14th, 2006 at 8:05 pmYes, I watched GWB in his Israeli victory speech today……..he is too angry. He knows he’s lying and both sides had to capitulate.
Damned Cheerleader.
The killer in this peace deal is that France turned out to be the hero!
No wonder he’s pissed.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:06 pmunbelievable You are pretty good at making stuff up. You are one heck of a bullsh*tter.
Comment by PJ — August 14, 2006 @ 7:41 pm
True. But only when it comes to abstractions of art in architectural context. In that case, I am the Queen. But – for everything else, I just post facts.
You should read some books and learn about the world. It’s how most people become educated. There’s hope for you yet PJ. Don’t be afraid. The grass really is greener on this side of the fence.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:06 pmthe whole point of this Rupert Murdoch approved slanderous statement about Islam is to set up yet another war. Get it?
Comment by purvis ames — August 14, 2006 @ 7:34 pm
got it…
how the powers that be actually think they can pull it off is amazing…
August 14th, 2006 at 8:08 pmthe cupboard is bare…
so it gets to take the you neocon, bush lovin argument away.
Comment by Tundra — August 14, 2006 @ 7:43 pm
I started to put moderate in front of conservative… but obviously didn’t. You know I don’t consider you a neocon by any stretch of any definition.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:10 pmI’m jealous. So I’m going to storm on out of here.
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 7:53 pm
Don’t be such a stranger…
By the way, I only call the kids at school who are doing something childish or foolish ‘dear’… feel better now knowing the translation? :)
August 14th, 2006 at 8:12 pmThis ass delayed the ceasefire a whole month to allow more innocent civilians to die and he still is able to rationalize the fact he is doing God’s work.
Comment by bones — August 14, 2006 @ 7:57 pm
The hypocrisy never ceases…
August 14th, 2006 at 8:15 pmUnbelievable:
I sort of fall under the b in Libertarian on the chart below.
http://is3.okcupid.com/graphics/politics/chart_political.gif
(If you trust those little questioner thingies)
August 14th, 2006 at 8:15 pmWhy Is Clyde STILL Banished??????
I wrote TP on Saturday! As of today, 4 computers and NOTHING!
He never insults anyone, yet he is banned?
Sorry to have to call you out on the carpet, TP, but I was nice and you didn’t do anything.
Please let TP know to fix their error. Use the contact button.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:17 pmThanks,
NORMA RAE
Could be the name Clyde?
Wasn’t there a rabid ape in a movie called Clyde who kept punching people out? Strictly name association I think.
“Right turn Clyde”
August 14th, 2006 at 8:19 pmBluePuP – The Thirty Year Rule I have OFFICIALLY installed is with regard to CONTEMPORARY TERRORISM. Of couerse, i explained THAT to you, but you’re not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, so….. You’re welcome to stray off track as often as your little heart desires…..
August 14th, 2006 at 8:20 pmCrazy people.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:28 pmIf the attacks on Lebanon were a model of the plan for attack on Iran, then the only conclusion you can make is: It’s going to be a disaster.
AND the chagrin is that terrorist recruits are UP UP UP!
Can’t these jerks to anyting to quell terrorism? All they have done is give the terrorist cause more legitimacy in the world.
Try a different approach.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:30 pm(If you trust those little questioner thingies)
Comment by Tundra — August 14, 2006 @ 8:15 pm
How do you know where you fall?
August 14th, 2006 at 8:30 pmBush hails ‘defeat’ of Hezbollah
United States President George W Bush is putting his own interpretation on the cease-fire in Lebanon, saying Hezbollah has suffered a defeat.
…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200608/s1714924.htm
President Calls Lebanon a Front in ‘Global War on Terrorism’
Posted GMT 8-14-2006 21:50:2
WASHINGTON (CNN) — President Bush declared Lebanon a front in the “global war on terrorism” Monday, equating the Israeli battle against Lebanon’s Hezbollah guerrillas to the U.S.-led wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
…
http://www.aina.org/news/20060814165002.htm
they are just all over the place with this…
August 14th, 2006 at 8:32 pmhow to win friends and influence people – is dale carnagie passe’ now?
Clyde was an ourang outan in 2 stellar cinematic achievements, Any Which Way You Can, and Any Which Way But Loose. His costar was some guy named Clint Eastwood.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:32 pmAnd welcome back me. You blasphemers, you.
Dixie Anemia – Every one of your “troll-control” talking points fits some or all of the prog-wacks…the differences between us include: we annoy you…YOU amuse us….See the difference???? Maybe one of the school marms can explain it to you…
August 14th, 2006 at 8:34 pmUnbelievable
Take the little test there
August 14th, 2006 at 8:34 pmhttp://www.okcupid.com/politics
And welcome back me. You blasphemers, you.
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 8:32 pm
Yes, we’re all going to Pasta Hell… which is much better than Christian Heaven where all you do forever and ever is praise god all day long. Bor-ring…
Okay, my turn to storm out. But I will be back…
August 14th, 2006 at 8:35 pmPeople,
I am talking about CLYDE THE RIPPER!!!!
He’s only been posting here forever!!!
Get off your damn butts and stop making fun.
CLYDE is being (unfairly) denied his 1st Admendment right.
It’s not funny.
TROLLS run amok, yet sweet CLYDE can’t post?
NOT FAIR!
NORMA RAE
August 14th, 2006 at 8:40 pmI welcome others to add to this list and post this list often!!
– dixie blood
Comment by dixie blood — August 14, 2006 @ 8:24 pm
Well done Number 1. That really needed to be done. Just keep posting it every day. They seem to be crawling out from under rocks every where you look these days. You know some of them at one time could enter a real debate but, as the bushco empire has gone down in flames all you get from them is…I am lost because it is nonsense,hate,bile, and worst of all MA-the big,fat,bald, sweaty one that can not make any sense at all any more (not that HE ever did).
August 14th, 2006 at 8:45 pm181
CLYDE is being (unfairly) denied his 1st Admendment right.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Since Congress (or the government) didn’t ban him from publicly speaking his mind I don’t think that is the case. The people who pay for this site have the right to allow whatever they want on it. Same as if you allow me into your house and I say something you don’t like you can have me removed. I could not demand protection under the constitution to reenter your house and say what I want.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:45 pmOh sorry forgot the link
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment01/
Wouldn’t want to get in trouble for not citing my source :)
August 14th, 2006 at 8:47 pm????? Yes four question marks and multiple !!!!!! demonstrate the utmost in true amusement.
Try using a little more imagination in your expressions. Your punctuation techniques are wearing thin. Also, a little less condescension and name calling would help as well.
Want to stop trolling? Use a little formative feedback for a change. This isn’t a cheerleading contest.
Participate in good faith. Your sniping so far is of no consequence.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:47 pmthe terrorist jihad is actually a war on motion… just be still, and we’ll all be fine(?)
http://blogdebogs.blogspot.com/2006/08/its-small-immobile-world-after-all.html
August 14th, 2006 at 8:47 pmIrrelevent? It’s a TEST, for God’s sake!
August 14th, 2006 at 8:48 pmLike the SAT or GMAT or E-Check!
August 14th, 2006 at 8:50 pmthe differences between us include: we annoy you…YOU amuse us….See the difference???? Maybe one of the school marms can explain it to you…
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 14, 2006 @ 8:34 pm
Wrong fat guy, YOU amuse us. In particular me. I like how you and Mr. MA pack a pinic basket and go down to the shore to enjoy your weekend. Not to mention all your friends and great social life(my god the parties when will they end?). You know turd you need a new made up life. Why not a Friar in some remote village? Oh, BTW some village in Texas is missing its’ idiot.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:56 pmWhy would I care about how I end up on a chart that I know to be wrong.
Not that it matters to me, You stated how wrong it was. I was trying to find out what you noticed about it that was wrong. Since I didn’t code it (And am not interested enough to play around with trying to reverse it if I could) I have no idea what value the questions have on placement. Most I have ever taken have Libertarians over above Republicans, but since it didn’t change my scoring, I didn’t care much.
Where did you end up if you feel it’s such a useful metric?
Ummm as I stated in my previous post #163
I sort of fall under the b in Libertarian on the chart below.
Not that I feel it’s that useful of a metric, sort of a neat little quiz (If it offends you that much pretend I never posted it)
August 14th, 2006 at 8:57 pmLike the SAT or GMAT or E-Check!
or that thing where you have to take a number and divide it by two then add the number of creatures moses took on the ark, then add the square root of a train leaving Dallas at 80 miles an hour multiplied by the number of legs on a showgirl.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:59 pmor that thing where you have to take a number and divide it by two then add the number of creatures moses took on the ark, then add the square root of a train leaving Dallas at 80 miles an hour multiplied by the number of legs on a showgirl.
I hate that test! I got pulled over two nights ago and the cop made me take it twice!
August 14th, 2006 at 9:03 pmUnbelievable, great quotes from Hitler.
PJ, that is weak. I had a girlfriend who used the excuse “Just because they say they are Christian doesn’t mean they are”. She wasn’t very bright either. Is Pat Robertson a Christian? Jerry Falwell? Is Ahmadinejad a Muslim? bin Ladin? Zarqawi? Sorry, bud, if they label themselves one or the other, that is exactly what they are. Would you like me to find scripture to defend Hitler? Not my favorite thing to do but I guarantee you that I can paint him as the most pious Christian you would ever meet.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:03 pmRacist? oh well, tell that to them when they kill you.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:09 pmShould we profile Christians ’cause Hindus and Buddhists have been around even longer?
August 14th, 2006 at 9:11 pmI hate that test! I got pulled over two nights ago and the cop made me take it twice!
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 9:03 pm
Me too, and the show girl had three legs but, they were very nice ones. The worst part was saying the alphabet backwards. regards tests..I don’t need a test to tell me our Country is in deep doo do with Bushco in charge. Maybe this Lamont thing will take hold but, give me a break 33 to 38% of everyone you meet support this moron and something like 60-65% beleive in the “Devil”–yuo know with pitch fork and interns and assistants (almost all Rethugs).
August 14th, 2006 at 9:12 pmHitler was an occultist ! With close ties, if not member of the Thule society.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:12 pmSo if I invent some religion now, I wont have the same rights than jews or catholics or else? What a load of crap. Does this guy know that afro-americans were and ARE racial-profiled every day?
August 14th, 2006 at 9:12 pmJPark, you’re dealing with two different definitions of “CHristian.” It seems your ex referred to a Christian as someone who follows the tenets of the religion, whereas you’re using that of one who believes in Jesus as Lord and Savior. Jesus would like hers but hate your definition, as it’s argued he came along to get rid of all those who followed the letter but not the spirit of Judaic teachings.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:14 pmWell its nice to see a south afracan weigh in on american polictics, and its really nice to see the hitler cult weighing in, but what, where, and when? Lets see it folks, what would you do different?
August 14th, 2006 at 9:16 pmthe show girl had three legs
That third one wasn’t a leg. And that show girl wasn’t.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:16 pmDammit Tundra, I disagree with most of your positions but you seem to be a likable guy. I ended up as a Socialist on the okcupid test and it is probably right. The funny thing is that there is no right wing category to match Socialist. It is like there is right wing, moderate and flaming bleeding heart. Don’t you think that is a little odd?
August 14th, 2006 at 9:18 pmThat third one wasn’t a leg. And that show girl wasn’t.
She sure kissed nice though!!!
August 14th, 2006 at 9:19 pmTundra, I never would have thought!
August 14th, 2006 at 9:21 pmOh well, lets look at the sout african government….. OH dammn…..
August 14th, 2006 at 9:23 pmIs it too late to say Bo Dietl has shit for brains?
August 14th, 2006 at 9:25 pmJPark,
Yeah I think Facist is the right wing one though. I have just never met anyone who said it didn’t classify them “about right”.
I am sure the thing needs to be tweaked and adjusted. I wouldn’t doubt that whoever wrote it uses the questions and answers at the end, with the amount of people taking it to shrink and grow catagories.
In general I do disagree with people here about 30% of the time (Don’t bother agreeing openly too often cause what’s the point?) In general I just like to have conversations and “see” how other people view things. I’m a people person hehe.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:26 pmSo did anyone see where the U.S. ranks 2nd-last (thanks Turkey!) in acceptance of Evolution? I’d put up a link but I don’t have one and I wouldn’t know how put it up here even if I did. But I’m sure someone on here can find it.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:26 pmI just thought it funny (sad) and someone pertinent here. It specifically cited political efforts to boost Creationism to motivate the conservative base.
Sorry to break your heart Tundra…
You are a
Social Liberal
(88% permissive)
and an…
Economic Liberal
(10% permissive)
You are best described as a:
Socialist
You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc
August 14th, 2006 at 9:27 pmAnd you, unbelievable? Where do you place? I have my suspicions.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:29 pmUnbelievable, great quotes from Hitler.
Comment by JPark — August 14, 2006 @ 9:03 pm
Thanks, here’s more:
http://atheism.about.com/library/quotes/bl_q_AHitler.htm
August 14th, 2006 at 9:29 pmThis from the same news network that brought you the “War on Christmas” and the “War on Easter.” I’m so sick and tired of the whiney-assed “I’m a victim” Christian set. No offense to all Christians, of course, but these guys do make the Evangelical/religious right set look like Neanderthals.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:30 pmI see Unbelievable,
I am 70% Permissive and 70% Economically Conservative. Which makes sense because I agree with you on most social issues (Abortion, gay marriage etc) and disagree on most Economic ones (Giving the government one more red cent to waste on their poorly planned programs).
August 14th, 2006 at 9:31 pmLet’s not talk smack about Neanderthals. Neanderthals are people too.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:31 pmAnd unbelievable, don’t answer my question. I misread your post.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:33 pmTundra, you don’t think that Socialist is as far left as fascist is right do you? I think the equivalent would be Communism, which is about as equally as ridiculous as Fascism. Governmentally and economically, that is. Not historically (both have been perverted to mean things they don’t necessarily mean).
August 14th, 2006 at 9:33 pmthe show girl had three legs
That third one wasn’t a leg. And that show girl wasn’t.
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 9:16 pm
Thats what drinking does to you. Hell, Ann Coulter after 10 maybe 15 drinks would might look good about 2:00 am. Not saying she would only maybe.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:35 pmSo did anyone see where the U.S. ranks 2nd-last (thanks Turkey!) in acceptance of Evolution?
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 9:26 pm
Yeah. There was a grey box thread on it yesterday.
katy freaked out in her usual immature manner and started telling me I don’t have a right to think that Jesus Freaks are irrational (I guess ’cause she’s one). Funny she’s not in here screaming at the rest of you… you know, proving me wrong with her hypocrisy…
Otherwise, the comments in there weren’t as good as this one, but you might wanna go read it. If you like melodrama… You seem like the type :)
August 14th, 2006 at 9:37 pmI have my suspicions.
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 9:29 pm
Were they right?
August 14th, 2006 at 9:38 pmOtherwise, the comments in there weren’t as good as this one, but you might wanna go read it. If you like melodrama… You seem like the type :)
Comment by unbelievable
Hey! The part where I hijacked that thread were good!
TP, I just want it on the record that I am not the only one who hijacks threads. Whew! :)
August 14th, 2006 at 9:39 pmFunny.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:40 pmDon’t make me come find you, unbelievable. I can’t imagine it would be that hard. You’re a liberal woman who works for a school in Georgia. There are what, 2 or 3 others?
Unbelievable, I was going to make a rather pointless joke about your obvious attempts to hide your insidious Republican heart.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:42 pmSo actually, I didn’t really have “suspicions.” I’m more surprised I rated so close to you. You know, since I despise everything you stand for. And I’m sorry for ending that sentence with a preposition.
JPark,
No I don’t think it’s as far, but the space is alot smaller for it too. Socialism carries alot more “as a group” thinking than Facism does. Which is why there is alot more room in there. We have eliminated alot of the facists (Evolution at work). Socialism also involves alot less conflict which allows that group to grow where Facism is more of a “personal victory” and well, there isn’t room for groups of them in society or that chart.
Socialism is in my opinion a much better alternative to facism (Unless of course I am in charge, then it’s not so bad)
Just a thought on it.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:42 pmdisagree on most Economic ones (Giving the government one more red cent to waste on their poorly planned programs).
Comment by Tundra — August 14, 2006 @ 9:31 pm
My economic issues are against big corporations. I don’t believe they should have better than rights.
I’m actually not very big on big Federal Government. I think they are too far removed from the people to keep their best interests in mind. And, if we could get rid of organized religion so more people would be ethical, I would be an anarchist.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:42 pmYou exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc
Comment by unbelievable — August 14, 2006 @ 9:27 pm
Said the exact same thing about me except I was a strong democrat(which I ain’t,, but, do lean that way). I mean Bush–or–Kerry?? A moron or a intelligent human–Gotta to think about this….Which one is a christian?–still thinking….this really hurts..damn..who would I like to drink beer with?? cheap beer or expenisve beer? Crap… I gotta cut and run.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:45 pmWilco,
She is really a facist, she hides her quest for world domination under fluttering eyelashes. But don’t think for one moment just because she doesn’t shave her legs and spends time smoking the reefer that she doesn’t have a plan for taking over.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:45 pmI’d rather have a beer with Kerry. Sure, they’d both buy, but Bush probably drinks MGD. You know Kerry only drinks the good stuff. No Natty Lite for that guy.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:47 pmUnbelievable, are you a pachouly (sic) smelling hippy?
August 14th, 2006 at 9:48 pmThere are what, 2 or 3 others?
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 9:40 pm
Teachers tend to be liberal, even here in Georgia. It’s my being an Atheist that puts me in the minority. Some days at lunch it’s like I’m at a Southern Revival with all the talk of the war in the Middle East being a sign of the Apocalypse (bet the cease fire thing is really rainging on tehir parade) with God bless this and God bless that.
I’m almost tempted to dare you to try… That would be an impressive trick.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:48 pmwhat the hell are you people talking about?
August 14th, 2006 at 9:49 pmYou know, since I despise everything you stand for.
Yeah, that’s true. I had noticed. Wasn’t going to say anything, shy wallflower that I am…
And I’m sorry for ending that sentence with a preposition.
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 9:42 pm
Oh no you’re not. You loved every minute of it. I bet you’ll do it again and again jsut because it felt so good.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:50 pmoh that
August 14th, 2006 at 9:50 pmI’m excellent at finding people. But only if I have their names. Or social sec #s. An alias would make it pretty difficult.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:51 pmprogressaurus rex,
I didn’t start this, for once, just so you know. ;)
August 14th, 2006 at 9:52 pmMy mother was an english teacher. That, sadly, was my way of rebelling against her, even now.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:52 pmSo I’ll also use the word their when I actually meant there, or did I mean they’re?
August 14th, 2006 at 9:53 pmOr I’ll say between you and I, instead of you and me!!
My god, the freedom!!!
It’s intoxicating!
back in 1991(gulf war i) i was at a baptist college in nashville. 85% of the students were certain the rapture was going to happen. i was told by one fellow student: “you really seem like a nice guy, but when the rapture comes, i don’t think you’re going to make it.”
he was obviously the authority on who gets to go and who doesn’t.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:54 pmTundra, interesting comments and I agree that Socialism is better :). I don’t think facism is less “as a group” thinking. I think the group is just a lot smaller, as in corporations and other corporations. As an accountant I am not anti-business as that would be bad for my business but I am anti-mega-coporation-big box store-monopoly as this is incredibly bad for our economy (as you can see from the pro-corp, pro-outsource, pro-corporate welfare state Bush has brought upon us). No, I don’t believe everything should be centralized. That would ruin the one good thing that capitalism has brought us and that is the innovative spirit and the motivation behind progress. I do believe that corporatizing the US destroys this independent spirit and will cause the stagnation of not only our economy but our edge in new tech, new inventions, etc. And I think that is what Socialism offers. A balance between the pure greed of Capitalism and the pure control of Communism. Frankly, I think Socialism is a centrist position economically.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:55 pmUnbelievable, are you a pachouly (sic) smelling hippy?
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 9:48 pm
I consider myself a Bohemian, but only at heart. The rest of me likes razors, organic lavendar soap and minty fresh breath.
Tundra’s right, I plan to take over the world on my minimum wage teaching job (by the time you factor in all the work we really do, it’s not much better). I figure I should be successful in about 3024… :)
August 14th, 2006 at 9:56 pmSo did anyone see where the U.S. ranks 2nd-last (thanks Turkey!) in acceptance of Evolution?
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 9:26 pm
here you go, wilco… 271 comments before i “freak out” and call un out on her rovian hypocrisy…
August 14th, 2006 at 9:56 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/11/us-lags-behind-world-in-evolution-acceptance/#comments
3024? I’ve heard of 5 year plans, but a 1018 year plan?
August 14th, 2006 at 9:58 pmit’s alright zooey, endless threads, endless opportunity for hijacking.
August 14th, 2006 at 9:58 pmand there’s always plausible deniability. i see unbelievable and wilco have you covered on this one.
I think the equivalent would be Communism, which is about as equally as ridiculous as Fascism. Governmentally and economically, that is. Not historically (both have been perverted to mean things they don’t necessarily mean).
Comment by JPark — August 14, 2006 @ 9:33 pm
mmmm…why?
August 14th, 2006 at 10:00 pmit’s alright zooey, endless threads, endless opportunity for hijacking.
and there’s always plausible deniability. Comment by progressaurus rex — August 14, 2006 @ 9:58 pm
Zoo. Ive seen you are spreading the seed. Good. :)
August 14th, 2006 at 10:02 pmHi, prog. Hows surfing?
Oh come on, we haven’t hijacked it. We’re still talking about religion… sort of.
Tundra’s talking about something else too… :)
Okay, on topic, Buddhism is the only religion (which isn’t really a religion, but a philosophy) that has never declared war in their name. Probably because they believe it is a waste of time to worry about whether or not there are gods…
August 14th, 2006 at 10:03 pmWhen was the last time there was a good Taoist war?
August 14th, 2006 at 10:05 pmConfucian?
Zoroastrian?
Let’s be fair. You gotta give it up to the Zoroastrians!
3024? I’ve heard of 5 year plans, but a 1018 year plan?
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 9:58 pm
It’s all the tofu and organic tomatoes I’m growing in my back yard.
I’m also a vegan. You know, evil non-believer that I am makes me do such vile things as refusing to kill conscious beings to eat…
August 14th, 2006 at 10:05 pmNo, I don’t believe everything should be centralized. That would ruin the one good thing that capitalism has brought us and that is the innovative spirit and the motivation behind progress.
Comment by JPark — August 14, 2006 @ 9:55 pm
So progress is only due to capitalism? How do russians put a man on space and revolutionize the way engineering was taught in the US? Progress has nothing to do capitalism despite what Industrial Revolution has shown. (Well, in fact it has shown the failure of capitalism)
And I think that is what Socialism offers. A balance between the pure greed of Capitalism and the pure control of Communism. Frankly, I think Socialism is a centrist position economically.
Comment by JPark — August 14, 2006 @ 9:55 pm
Damn. I agree with you.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:06 pmunbelievable,
not that i want to get into it, but on “that other topic” – you accused me of “wanting” to believe it’s true. i just want to say that on the contrary that’s not correct at all. i dearly wish and hope it will not be true.
i also think it’s unfair that you would compare people with legitimate questions that are unanswered to people who believe the earth is flat and the moon landing was a hoax.
but otherwise i think you’re well-informed and a nice person (from what i can tell in comments, anyway). i do have much respect for you, i just think it’s beneath you to use the right-wing “accuse them of being loonies” tactic. use facts and logic if you want to debate, please don’t delve in the other nonsense. because “that other topic” is hardly a clear-cut case, given what we don’t know, wouldn’t you agree?
otherwise, no more on it in this thread, i promise.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:06 pmhave a nice day!
Let’s be fair. You gotta give it up to the Zoroastrians!
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 10:05 pm
You got a link for that utterly bogus claim?
August 14th, 2006 at 10:07 pmrefusing to kill conscious beings
So it’s ok to kill them when they’re sleeping? Hypocrite!! J’accuse!! (my mother was also a french teacher…I mean, a freedom teacher)
August 14th, 2006 at 10:08 pmYes I do! But, I think you will benefit more by finding that information for yourself.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:09 pmJPark,
I think one of the prime things we most likely differ when it comes to big corporations is who is responsible for keeping them in check. I think we as citizens have to do it, where some socialists feel the government should have a hand.
Example: I purchase things from smaller stores whenever I can. I try and stay away from the bigger names just as my little way of helping the smaller guy have a chance. Sure I pay more and have less than I could if I always bought at big locations. I run Linux on my home PC’s (Many people won’t take the time to learn it and give more to Microsoft). My personal feeling is if the government has control they will backdoor deal things. If enough of us as citizens did our part they wouldn’t be able to.
I pretty much don’t trust the government to run too much and think we as a society have to take more control. I also have alot more faith in the masses than most people. When things start to lean one way too much (As I think they have tilted that way) society will even it out.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:09 pmSo I’ll also use the word their when I actually meant there, or did I mean they’re?
Or I’ll say between you and I, instead of you and me!!
My god, the freedom!!!
It’s intoxicating!
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 9:53 pm
August 14th, 2006 at 10:12 pmRight then– C, si, sea, see, ci.. I am dancing in the streets. Now as to whether or not there is/or gods..that be “the great gamble”.
Comment by Tundra — August 14, 2006 @ 10:09 pm
I have to admit it. Im beginning to like you, man. :)
August 14th, 2006 at 10:15 pmRex,
You have to admit, the Inside Job Theory is a religion to some of those people and they are very fanatical about it. Calling them loonies is fair when they respond to my expert opinion with ‘you stupid b*tch, you don’t know what you’re talking about’ (except with worse grammar and typos). I obviously do. A court of law would verify that.
I definitely don’t lump you with them, as you have been very polite and willing to dicuss. But I do think you do want the conspiracy to be true. It wasn’t judgment, just observation. Nothing personal. You seem like a nice and reasonable person and I don’t see this as a point of contention between us.
But, so as not to start the debate here and upset Judd anymore than Zoo being off topic this entire thread , let’s just agree to disagree and when I call the fanatics loonies know that it’s only the ones who truly are… :)
August 14th, 2006 at 10:15 pm#136 gets it right. Is this idiot suggesting the Islamic religion has only been around for 100 years???
August 14th, 2006 at 10:15 pmJoe, way to bring it on back home!
August 14th, 2006 at 10:17 pmI went to a Catholic High School here in Cleveland and I had a teacher who introduced us to a theory by C. S. Lewis, that essentially states belief in Jesus is the best bet you can make, religiously speaking, because if he exists and you don’t believe you go to hell, but if you believe and he doesn’t exist, nothing happens. I thought that was great! Then I thought a bit, and figured that applies for every religion around, just replace Jesus with whomever and there you go. Same conclusion. Woopdeedoo.
So I tried worshipping all the gods and that got really exhausting, so I gave up. I never do well gambling anyway.
Zoo. Ive seen you are spreading the seed. Good. :)
Comment by Juan C
I am not responsible for this, Juan! I’d put on my Yenta personality, but I think unbelievable and Wilco are way past that stage.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:17 pmSure I pay more and have less than I could if I always bought at big locations. I run Linux on my home PC’s (Many people won’t take the time to learn it and give more to Microsoft No offense meant but, Bill Gates might wind up doing more good for mankind than almost anyone else in history. BTW my son is a Linux freak-swears by it. That open source stuff is great.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:18 pmI think Socialism is a centrist position economically.
I would have to agree, I think the thing that keeps me from believing in giving more to the government is my distrust for their spending habits. If I thought MY tax money was being spent well and making a difference, I wouldn’t complain about giving more. At this stage they have to clean up their act before I agree they need more.
That is why when I hear people say more money for this program or that program I complain. A few weeks ago we had a drive to enhance a local park. We did a cookout and all of us from the post volunteered our time. We bought and put up a new playground structure, I found out after we had to pay a couple hundred dollars in some form of state tax (I wish I knew more about it). That means the time we spent on our community and some of the money we raised by the people in our community got sent to somewhere else. It kind of drives me up a wall.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:18 pm#244 I am not sure what you are saying why to? Communism or fascism being ridiculous.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:19 pmSo it’s ok to kill them when they’re sleeping? Hypocrite!! J’accuse!! (my mother was also a french teacher…I mean, a freedom teacher)
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 10:08 pm
Just the carrots… And I do feel guilty. Damn Catholic upbringing…
Je parle un petit de Francais… mais tres, tres mal.
Sounds like your mother was a rather progressive woman. Mine was a mom, housewife and then a secretary. She now works at a fabric place…
August 14th, 2006 at 10:19 pmBut, so as not to start the debate here and upset Judd anymore than Zoo being off topic this entire thread ….
Comment by unbelievable
Oh my god, I think I’ve been thrown under the bus!
You have left me no choice, unbelievable. Picture this: You, on a desert island with absolutely no hope of rescue with 12 clones of Dennis Hastert in speedos — dancing to salsa music.
No brillo pads!
August 14th, 2006 at 10:20 pmJuan, I don’t know why you would disagree with me on all that many things since I am a self-described (ok, okcupid described) socialist. I agree with most of your posts. I think you have jumped to some kind of conclusion about me.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:22 pmMy french isn’t worth much these days, either. Maybe not enough cheese and wine.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:23 pmNo offense meant but, Bill Gates might wind up doing more good for mankind than almost anyone else in history.
True, I actually have alot of respect for him on many levels. I just see Microsoft as a really big corporation that makes bloated products. Honestly the guy just likes to code and made alot of good choices. Microsoft as a whole though is a huge monopoly (Where I think we as a society need to deal with as opposed to the government)
August 14th, 2006 at 10:24 pmIt kind of drives me up a wall.
Comment by Tundra — August 14, 2006 @ 10:18 pm
Then you really, really, really don’t want to hear about what the school system does with tax dollars… They could stand to give more to teachers and less to tehir overhead. Seriously. The education system doesn’t manage money well at all. And if teachers were paid better (the money is there for 25% increases), you’d have better teachers.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:25 pm#249 No, Capitalism is not the answer and neither is Communism. They both have something to offer but I believe that a true balance of the two is needed for a truly successful, lasting economy. Capitalism is based on a human weakness (or strength in moderation), greed. Communism is based on a human strength (or weakness in excess), compassion. There has to be a balance, even if it is razorthin.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:27 pmNo brillo pads!
Comment by Zooey — August 14, 2006 @ 10:20 pm
I’ll just visualize some… :D
August 14th, 2006 at 10:27 pmI have to admit it. Im beginning to like you, man. :)
Comment by Juan C — August 14, 2006 @ 10:15 pm
Thanks Juan!! We can disagree on topics and it’s nothing personal, you have always shown an intelligent approach to things that hit home. I like most of the people on this site. I just don’t dislike debates that center around “Well your an idiot” cause they are counterproductive.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:27 pmIMHO
Or social sec #s. Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 9:51 pm
155-34-1105
(I apologize if that actually belongs to anyone real)
August 14th, 2006 at 10:28 pm155-34-1105
(I apologize if that actually belongs to anyone real)
Comment by unbelievable
That’s Judd’s social security number.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:30 pmUnbelievable, how can I properly find you if you won’t be honest? That’s a horrible way to start a stalker-prey relationship.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:30 pmThen you really, really, really don’t want to hear about what the school system does with tax dollars
Oh I can imagine. I believe that teachers deserve more money… But me giving more to the school isn’t going to make that happen. If they took the time to clean up their act I would happily agree to giving more if it was needed. Personally I think they can do so much more with what they have and squander it on “backdoor deals”. Because Lances brother bought all of these textbooks and marked them up 200% let’s go ahead and buy them from him. They need to spend the money like it’s their own.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:32 pmMaybe not enough cheese and wine.
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 10:23 pm
Or maybe too much. You wanna know why cheese doesn’t come from happy cows? Think being pregnant all the time and then milked 4 times a day by cold metal machinery…
August 14th, 2006 at 10:32 pmI agree with most of your posts. I think you have jumped to some kind of conclusion about me.
Comment by JPark — August 14, 2006 @ 10:22 pm
I should have added the :) after my post, friend.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:33 pmYou describe progress as a result of capitalism. I think thats not correct. It may correct in US with a strong dedication, tradition and respect for work and efficiency. But not in other countries. There wouldnt be rich countries if they hadnt plundered poor countries. So accumulation of wealth as a sustainable economic system is a fallacy. Thats my opinion. I agree with you in everything else. Sorry to gave you a bad impression.
That’s Judd’s social security number.
Comment by Zooey — August 14, 2006 @ 10:30 pm
That would be my luck…
August 14th, 2006 at 10:33 pmThink being pregnant all the time and then milked 4 times a day by cold metal machinery…
You know my ex wife??
August 14th, 2006 at 10:34 pmThat’s a horrible way to start a stalker-prey relationship.
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 10:30 pm
My real first name starts with the letter S.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:34 pmMy real first name starts with the letter S.
Comment by unbelievable
Sunshine?
August 14th, 2006 at 10:36 pmSoulflower?
Stargaze?
#254 I wish that you were right that it is the people that would put a check on large corporations but if a monopoly is effective the people will have low prices. Unfortunately, the average person doesn’t understand basic economics. They understand their pocketbooks. Take for instance, deflation. It is horrible for the economy, just as bad as inflation. But the people love it, they don’t pay much for goods. Unfortunately, this will ultimately lead to unemployment but the guy buying steak at $2.00 a pound is going to love it. When he is laid off a month later he is going to blame his employer but it is his own fault for loving the low prices. You can’t base economic policy on what is good for the consumer…or the business. You have to base it on what is best for the overall economy. The average person knows absolutely nothing about macro-economics, only micro…their personal finances…and that is not good for the country in the long run.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:37 pmI just hope it’s not Steve.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:37 pmBecause Lances brother bought all of these textbooks and marked them up 200% let’s go ahead and buy them from him. They need to spend the money like it’s their own.
Comment by Tundra — August 14, 2006 @ 10:32 pm
You’ll like this – I have no textbooks :) I was the only teacher who didn’t order any.
I agree with you on this. With some necessary streamlining and better management of funds, there is enough money there. I just would liketo have some of that $350 billion spent on Iraq to start after-school programs (i’m actually participating in one that’s starting in my district), as studies have found that it ’saves’ a lot of underpriviledged (sp?) kids…
August 14th, 2006 at 10:38 pmSunshine?
Soulflower?
Stargaze?
Comment by Tundra
Salma. Steven, on the weekends. :)
August 14th, 2006 at 10:40 pmI just hope it’s not Steve.
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 10:37 pm
Me too, because I’ve been signing all of my checks with a girl’s name.
Sorry Tundra, my parents were conservatives. I have a standard though not terribly common name…
And if you guess it, I’ll say no. Because there are some around here who would like to kill me :)
August 14th, 2006 at 10:42 pmSalma. Steven, on the weekends. :)
Comment by Zooey — August 14, 2006 @ 10:40 pm
Other way around… :)
For a Feminist I’m actually pretty girly looking. Steve is just the attitude :)
August 14th, 2006 at 10:44 pm#262 I totally agree with you. I don’t think the government knows its ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to economic policy. Take FDR. He was incredible getting the country out of the depression. But it wasn’t him, it was his economic advisors. He actually listened to them. Until he thought the depression was over. He starting getting rid of his alphabet soup programs despite his people near the end but it was a disaster. He sent the country back into a recession because he was doing it too early and thought everything was peachy. Well, history will show him being the hero of the Great Depression but it wasn’t him…it was the very intelligent people around him but it wasn’t him. Once he stopped listening to people who knew what they were talking about he hurt the economy. I don’t know the answer but it isn’t the people who should decide with their pocketbooks what we should do with the economy as it is purely based on self-interest which in the long-run is not good for their own self-interest (ironic, ain’t it?). I would wish that there would be a truly non-partisan group of economists that would set policy.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:47 pmThe average person knows absolutely nothing about macro-economics, only micro…their personal finances…and that is not good for the country in the long run.
I agree with the post. The problem I see is that it’s their right to be ignorant of that. It’s their country too. The minute we say here is a better way let me do it for you, we have taken ownership of them. It’s kind of a fine line. The only solution I can think of is “grassroots education”. If we let the government educate them it will become a very expensive mess. (Of course I am big on anti-free trade and forcing companies that do business in America to be here employing people, or paying enough taxes to offset the loss of jobs)
Bad Star Wars analogy here: The Emperor thought the people were too stupid to take care of themselves. He knew how to do it better. He created his Empire to “make the people listen”. Pretty soon protecting them from themselves turned into what everyone didn’t want.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:49 pmHoly cow (see I’m on topic)… it’s way past my bedtime…
This was an absolute blast. Wilco and Tundra, good to see you guys back. I hope it’s more frequent. A great sense of humor (Wilco) and reality (Tundra) are always a welcomed break from the trolls… who were pretty minimal tonight. Must be some sacraficial ritual tonight. They’ll all come and comment and name call AFTER we’ve all left…
Well, good night all.
(Zoo, you’re a good sport.)
August 14th, 2006 at 10:50 pmTundra…there is absolutely no such thing as a “bad Star Wars analogy,” here or anywhere else. In fact, if Bush has made one or two I might have voted for the guy.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:50 pmGoodnight unbelievable. Take care.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:52 pm(Zoo, you’re a good sport.)
Comment by unbelievable
Back at ya, girl. Goodnight.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:54 pmJuan C. Self-determination and a strong work ethic (based on making money) is certainly a part of making a strong economy. Excessive greed of the Rockefeller and Carnegie type worked for a couple of decades but they did it on the backs of the workers and that became unacceptable. The government had to step in (after being the strong arm and union breaker) and be an advocate for the American worker. Don’t think I am a lover of pure capitalism, I am not. However, a huge reason Communism failed was because there was no motivation to excel or to be innovative. Communism died from the inside, just as Capitalism seems to be doing under Bush. There must be a middle ground or we are screwed.
August 14th, 2006 at 10:55 pm248.
Oh yay I’ve been waiting to say this to someone:
Good thing your ancestors ate meat so the human brain could evolve. Otherwise you wouldn’t be able to make the decision to not eat meat. Ha ha!
August 14th, 2006 at 10:57 pmWhat’s with all the talk of economy?
August 14th, 2006 at 10:58 pmI hate it when people hijack a thread!
islam which has been r4esponsible for deaths more than any other movement is stupid!
August 14th, 2006 at 11:00 pm#290 I don’t support overriding the market or the will of the people. However, reasonable restrictions on the way businesses work is certainly called for. If the US hadn’t legalized unions and put the brakes on sweat shops and child labor, those things would still be going on. Nobody these days would stand for that but it went on. The government had to pass laws to halt those practices. Business has the power while labor must rely on the government to protect them from abuse. If it weren’t for the government enforcing fair labor practices we would be no better off than migrant workers.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:02 pmYou’ll like this – I have no textbooks :) I was the only teacher who didn’t order any.
Innovative learning approach, I like it!!
I just would liketo have some of that $350 billion spent on Iraq to start after-school programs
I would rather see the money not have been spent in the first place and the education budget streamlined on it’s own. Saying but this money could be used here doesn’t work for me. I think they need to fix what is broken and then say WOW we saved 40% of our tax money. Lets drop taxes or even, we can improve education by this much (Every kid has a laptop and college age tutor) and welfare by this much (Free housing for single mothers with each spending time on babysitting work), or look no social security problems with an overhall we can do this.
(i’m actually participating in one that’s starting in my district), as studies have found that it ’saves’ a lot of underpriviledged (sp?) kids
August 14th, 2006 at 11:02 pmTo me that helps a whole lot more than the government funding some bloated program with overpriced gear that sucks. There are plenty of people that would give to afterschool programs for marketing deals and the goodness of their heart. Team up with a non profit organization. Give them 20% and then run around raising money with (Insert non profit here) to help after school programs in your neighborhood. Put company logos on pencils, jerseys. Send flyers to the parents with coupons stating who helped. All the money is tax deductible because it went through the non profit and they cut the check for the 80%.
So Raw Story is reporting on a poll of Christians. Results: 50% of men and 20% of women are addicted to porn.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:03 pmBut 70% only watch religious porn, like Bend-Her.
#296 I am an omnivore but show some proof that the brain doesn’t thrive on a vegetarian diet.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:03 pm#297 Sorry, Wilco. It is a bit of a passion. :)
August 14th, 2006 at 11:04 pmJPark,
August 14th, 2006 at 11:05 pmYou’re full of it. The government doesn’t protect the workers. They protect the treacherous Internartionalist Corporations! The US governemnt is infiltrated by foreign agents whose goal is to destroy America. The governement isn’t to be trusted!
#300 Hmm, Bend-her. I am staying away from that one simply because I couldn’t handle Charlton Heston wielding his sword.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:06 pmSorry, Wilco. It is a bit of a passion. :)
Comment by JPark
Don’t be too quick to apologize, JPark, half of these comments are his!
August 14th, 2006 at 11:06 pmWell, hijack away, JPark! It’s a free country!
August 14th, 2006 at 11:06 pmI am an omnivore but show some proof that the brain doesn’t thrive on a vegetarian diet.
Comment by JPark
That’s why we don’t have giant cow teeth. Well, maybe unbelievable does….
Wilco, you might want to ask her about that.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:08 pmthere is absolutely no such thing as a “bad Star Wars analogy,†here or anywhere else. In fact, if Bush has made one or two I might have voted for the guy.
Regan did LOLOLOL
August 14th, 2006 at 11:08 pm#300 Hmm, Bend-her. I am staying away from that one simply because I couldn’t handle Charlton Heston wielding his sword.
JPark, I regretted typing that almost immediately! The subtitles that came to mind alone will guarantee me a place in hell. My head is hung in shame.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:09 pmIsn’t this the same guy who used to show up on “The Daily Show” and talk about cutting off peoples ball sacks and making gyros out of them? Doesn’t Fox do background checks? If they’re not careful they’ll become a laughingstock of the media………Oh. Never mind.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:09 pm50% of men and 20% of women are addicted to porn.
HEY!!!! I resemble that remark DOH
August 14th, 2006 at 11:09 pmZooey, I’ll write that one down for later. Don’t worry, I’ll credit you with the question.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:10 pmIf the US hadn’t legalized unions and put the brakes on sweat shops and child labor, those things would still be going on.
Point taken and accepted. There does have to be reasonable restrictions on the way businesses work That’s why there is so much room around the middle ground. I don’t think any one way is best and it does require a combination. I do think the government is too deep sometimes though. Like the oil issue. With the prices where they are the market is ready for a company to be innovative and produce something that really shakes up the system. Now we just need those free thinkers to step up and get away from those corporations they are working for and do something on their own.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:16 pmWell goodnight everyone. Time to read & sleep.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:19 pmTake care.
Night Wilco
August 14th, 2006 at 11:21 pmNight Wilco
Thanks! had fun
August 14th, 2006 at 11:23 pmI still have absolutely no idea who this guy is or what knowledge or experience he’s “credible” in, for why he’s continually on news programs. And I’ve seen him on various shows for years.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:24 pmfor why he’s continually on news programs.
Because he is an extremist. Sort of like why do people listen to Howard Stern
#1 Reason for people who love him: To see what he will say next.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:28 pm#1 Reason for people who hate him: To see what he will say next
Tundra, the oil thing is exactly what I am talking about. Oil companies get huge tax breaks to produce oil (not in quantity, but just to be in the business). Bush promised to give breaks to those who would create new forms of energy. He kinda told the truth. He gave extremely minor tax breaks to those who would create renewable energy technologies while at the same time giving MORE welfare to the oil, coal, natural gas, and nuclear power companies. The deck is stacked against renewable resources by the Bush administration. They cannot come close to competing against big energy (thank you Cheney). I know this gives you even more reason to believe that government should stay out of the ecomomy and I agree…Republicans shouldn’t make policy :) The fact is the government (from previous posts) need to reign in certain elements of business. The fact is also that it should be to create a level playing ground, not to entrench an already bloated and monopolistic industry. Big oil is the perfect example of a corporation that cannot be threatened by competition because of corrupt policy.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:32 pmZooey, I’ll write that one down for later. Don’t worry, I’ll credit you with the question.
Comment by Wilco
I’m counting on it…
August 14th, 2006 at 11:42 pm:-)
Bo Dietls’ head caves-in when he takes a shit.
This is what FOX considers an analyst?
Pathetic.
-GSD
August 14th, 2006 at 11:46 pmI fully agree JPARK!
My thought awhile ago was for Bush to step up and say “You have 3 years. The first company that makes a vehicle that gets 100Miles to the gallon (Or no oil) that sells for less than $12,000 gets free taxes for a year. The free taxes only apply to parts completely produced in the United States. The labor that is done in the United States and the Marketing for that vehicle.”
Of course they would have to do more fine tuning with specifics, but I think overall it would help the economy. Big oil, airlines etc get nothing as a helper.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:46 pmBo here does not seem to know…
August 14th, 2006 at 11:52 pm=
The Koran at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia
Note: Versions of the Koran vary translations of “Isa,” a Prophet of Allah. While the more Christianized translation is “Jesus,” the version represented …
etext.virginia.edu/koran.html
I believe that is a concensus Tundra :) That is bipartisanship! Although I am feeling a bit sorry for airlines. They get the unfunded mandates for security AND fuel costs. They are hurting. Time for bed. Have a good night.
August 14th, 2006 at 11:58 pmNight JPark,
I enjoyed it.
I do feel sorry for the airlines too, but business sense will make it through. People have to fly and they have to adjust somehow.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:00 am$12,000 gets free taxes for a year. The free taxes only apply to parts completely produced in the United States. The labor that is done in the United States and the Marketing..
==
Great idea..
I wonder can a car that weighs enough to get 100 mpg still be strong enough to survive an impact with a Ford Pickup the size of Dubya’s crawwferd county brush bucket?
August 15th, 2006 at 12:07 amI wonder can a car that weighs enough to get 100 mpg still be strong enough to survive an impact with a Ford Pickup the size of Dubya’s crawwferd county brush bucket?
Good Point. I think the technology is there it’s getting them the incentive. Add crash tests to the deal and I’m still in :)
August 15th, 2006 at 12:14 amergh. business meeting (for those who don’t already know i live in australia so it’s the middle of the day here).
i know this is late, but thanks unbelievable – hopefully you’ll read that tomorrow.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:27 amFOX News is getting worse daily, but until the Bush Regime is gone, there is nothing anyone can do to that fascist propaganda network! Once Dubya leaves the presidency, then FOX’s broadcast license can be terminated for all the misuse they have done, and lies they spewed!
August 15th, 2006 at 12:59 amGod damn terorists!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 15th, 2006 at 2:33 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3wef_F_xvg&mode=related&search=
Bo Dietl ??? This guy hardly walks upright and Fox puts him on TV?! That adds much to Fox’s credibility. Do the Fox employees shower after Dietl leaves the studio? They should.
August 15th, 2006 at 7:34 amThis man is obviously a racist but does he not know that there are Christians in this country who have been killing people in the name of religion/Jesus for years.
August 15th, 2006 at 7:52 amI have not read all 330 messages, but I would wonder what Dietl would say to the New Yorker magazing article that says the Bush administration had planned the Israeli attack on Lebanon a long time ago as a precursor to “our” own plan in Iran to take out their nuke capabilities.
Of course…this is all in the name of “the war on terror”, “the fight against al kaydar” and the battle to keep “nukeular” weapons out of the hands of “maniacs”.
August 15th, 2006 at 7:55 amYeah, TB…and he must not know how many Jews have killed non-Jews, how many muslims have killed Christians, how many whites have killed blacks, how many blacks have killed whites, how many blacks and whites have killed hispanics, how many agnostics have killed atheists, how many indians have killed atheists, how many buddhists have killed cows, how many cows have trampled the homeless, how many gypsies have killed rival peasants and how many gorillas have killed chimpanzees.
Great point.
August 15th, 2006 at 7:59 amStrange. The Rapture is about 150 years old. The anti-abortion movement is about the same age. Fundamentalism is exactly 105 years old.
So who is practicing a “johnyy-com-lately” religion?
August 15th, 2006 at 9:18 am.
At least Imus puts Bo on realizing that he is batshit crazy. Which means he fits right in at FoxNews
August 15th, 2006 at 9:55 amBut during the Inquisition and during the Witch Hunts, people killed for Christ and for no other reason. They burned our forebears in direct obedience to the command in John 15:6: “If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.†Atheism has no such commandment and needs the help of no State to make its case before humans.
Comment by unbelievable
Twisted view of that verse by some.
This is not a commandment to burn unbelievers but refers to believers.
Only believers are commanded to abide in Christ .
August 15th, 2006 at 12:27 pmA common practice of viticulture is the pruning and burning of unproductive branches, this applys to unproductive believers.
God hastens those believers who persist in willful disobedience.
It is probably wrong to conclude that the expression “they are burned” refers specifically to physical death.
[...] This also ties back into John Dean’s new book, which I simply cannot recommend enough, where he talks of authoritarian conservatism and its documented tendencies towards racism. I won’t go into details (unless prodded) , but it’s a well known fact that the uber-conservatives have overt racist tendencies. To illustrate this point, check out this video Think Progress posted of private investigator Bo Dietl stating, without cracking a smile, that Islam “is a Johnny-come-lately religion.” And Neil, the bottom line is, this is a Johnny-come-lately religion. Christians and Jews have been around for 1600 years, 1500 years before. When they’re having a religion talking about killing people, I think we should reevaluate people who pray to someone who wants to kill you. [...]
August 15th, 2006 at 12:40 pmAfter reading the posts on this site for several months there seems to be some consistency as to the feelings of the “bloggers …..let me summarize……because somewhere in my following list you (yes, you the wacko “progressiveâ€) will find an answer to ALL of the problems that America faces today….or at least the person/persons that are responsible for such a miserable existence that we must trudge through in America…..America the damned!!! Each of the items below are just a snippet of what “think progress†stands for….so…in your words….
Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate…
Fox News is Hitler’s SS version of propaganda…
The Democrats are waayyy too conservative and right-leaning….
The Republicans (gulp…I said the word Republicans) work for the Devil…
Lieberman is a Bush crony that never accomplished anything for the state of Connecticut…
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
The War in Iraq was certainly for the oil and making rich people richer!!!
Halliburton? Planning the war(s) for years before 9/11…
9/11? Bush not only knew exactly what/where/when/how…..he helped to plan it…..
9/11? The towers were not taken down by airplanes…American C-4 explosives were strategically placed to “take ‘em downâ€â€¦.
Bush planted the C4…along with the help of Cheney and Rumsfield…
The War in Iraq was certainly a follow-up to papa Bush….and his “failure†in removing Saddam…..
Terrorism is not that big of a deal…it should be monitored and controlled by our police agencies….not the government….
OBL is not that bad….hell, America created him!!
Saddam is not the bad…hell, America created him!!
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not that bad….he does not want nukes for weapons…its all about the fuel baby!!!
Problems in the Middle East…Americas fault…
Darfur? Bush and Cheney are not fully responsible for the genocide—but at least 78%….
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
Try to resolve the problems in the Middle East??—Why does America feel it should stick its nose in others business…
Israel…America’s puppet….
Israel is the cause of most of the problems in the Middle East….Hezbollah is not a terrorist organization—they were “elected†into a position of power in a democratic government!!!
America did the worse job of evacuating its citizens from Lebanon…Denmark did the best…Denmark is #1!!! Denmark is #1!!!….
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
American flags are made for one purpose….to burn!!!!!!!!
The primary run off in Ct proves that the American people want an immediate withdrawal from Iraq….
AIDS in Africa killing scores? Bush’s Fault….well, maybe 82% responsible…
Socialism #1…Communism #2….Dictatorship #3…Democracy #4…as ranked by the bloggers on “Think Progress†as best form of govt….
Global Warming is a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
The short-comings of American schools…a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
The short-comings of Health-care….a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
Oil?….ever since man has been able to process it into a usable fuel….all the problems have been…..a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
Wal-mart=Capitalism=Bush cronies=Conservatives=devil
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
Mexican Immigration problem? No problemo…
Katrina?….a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……not the response—the actual cause of the hurricane…a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive
Katrina…response to it?….Bush hates blacks…..it’s that simple……did I mention Bush hates Mexicans, Canadians, French, Italians, Spaniards, Russians, Irish, Germans, Chinese, Japanese, Filipinos, Aussies, Swedes, New Zealanders, anybody that might be of south American persuasion, anybody that might be a mix bred, anybody from Africa-even if they “look†white, and of course…all Muslims….
Did I mention that according to this site that Bush hates gays? And wants them dead?
The economy—-the worse it’s been in the history of America—-….is a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
International relations? well—before Bush we were loved from china to south America…but now—America is hated all around the world and we need to kowtow to the Europeans and Islam so they like us…..we want other people to like us…we really want other people to like us………please like us…..please?
Homeless problem in a city/town near you?…a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive…
Abortion is good (million+ innocents a year)…Death penalty is Bad (handful of convicted criminals a year)….
(Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
Lines at the super-market….. a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive…
Howard Stern being fined for foul behavior/language…. a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive….
Katrina “evacuees†in Houston or other cities committing hideous crimes?… a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
Christian groups are bigots and things such as “faith day†(at a ball park after the game) are nothing more than the radical rights attempt at “christian-izing†us….
America’s military is weak and the Draft is right around the corner…
“God†should not be in the Pledge….
“God†should not be on our currency…
“God†should not be……….
Cindy Sheehan should not be questioned nor debated…..her son died for her right to hang out in Crawford dam it!!!
America went to war unprepared….look at the hummers!! They have absolutely no armor….and its Bush’s fault…
Democrats and Republicans are all the same…evil…out for themselves…slave-masters (its in their family history)…sex addicts…and of course out to kill Americans in a fake war that was based on purposely fraudulent intelligence…
The (mass) media is covering up everything!!!
Good policing and investigative work is called—racial profiling!!!
“Minimum Wage should be at least $18.00 a hourâ€
“Progressive†reporters get kick out of all the neo-cons news briefings…
“My phones have been taped because I went to an anti-war rally!â€
“My cable has been on the blink and my phone has been making weird noises since I went to a anti-war Rallyâ€
Anybody that makes money and lives a successful life MUST be doing something that hurts the poor or crippled….
Taxes and more taxes are good for the economy…tax cuts/breaks only help the millionaires…
SUV’s were created by conservatives that wanted to help out their “oil buddiesâ€â€¦
People should not be expected to take care of themselves!!! That’s the role of government…
People should not be able to invest their social security account as they wish!! That’s the role of the government…
If I forgot a topic or an issue please just fill it in with the following…
“BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- WAA-WAA WAA-WAA WAA-WAA WAA-WAA..BUSH IS THE DEVIL BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA…REPUBLICANS ARE THE DEVIL… WAA-WAA WAA-WAA WAA-WAA WAA-WAA…AMERICA IS THE CAUSE OF ALL THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD…-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA…â€
IN CONLUSION::::::
I have posted this because it addresses nearly all the issues that “think progress†and its bloggers believe/state/dream about….in other words, this post can be placed on any of your blogs and it will make sense……thanks “think progress†bloggers for making this so easy….if you think my post is foolish….please remember—these are your words (with some editing liberties taken…oh I forgot—I should not mention anything about taking liberties)….dam America!!!
August 15th, 2006 at 1:53 pmjust like a republican… when the going gets rough, make crap up.
no conviction, always the bait and switch.
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August 15th, 2006 at 2:04 pmi’ve posted this because it addresses any issues republicans try to switch topics on…. in other words, this post can be placed on any republican blog and it will make sense. thanks ‘republican’ bloggers for making this so terribly funny… if you think my post is foolish…please remember-stop the bait and switch (making crap up)… oh, i forgot – i should not mention ‘terribly’… it only helps with the chicken little ‘the sky is falling’ type of bs that republicans always vomit.
oh, i can’t post on republican blogs?
what is that you say, they’ve disabled comments? from all but registered republicans?
August 15th, 2006 at 2:06 pmI have never visited a Republican blog…..this is wayyyy more fun….and very enlightening to see the “progressive” view….
August 15th, 2006 at 2:24 pmgood for the Brits!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-6016515,00.html
August 15th, 2006 at 5:11 pmDietl is also one of the dumbest individuals ever to appear on television. Of all time.
August 15th, 2006 at 5:38 pmComment by big mike from ct — August 15, 2006 @ 1:53 pm
big mike you got it, good job. However, the DAA-DO-DAH-DOO-Do none of us here ever made that claim.
August 15th, 2006 at 6:17 pmYou guys should all be watching wacky and entertaining Keith Olbermann instead of FOX
August 15th, 2006 at 7:05 pmHe spins it just the way you like it all wacky crazy, made it up conspiracy stuff.
He could use the ratings boost.
But during the Inquisition and during the Witch Hunts, people killed for Christ and for no other reason. They burned our forebears in direct obedience to the command in John 15:6: “If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.†Atheism has no such commandment and needs the help of no State to make its case before humans.
Comment by unbelievable
Twisted view of that verse by some.
This is not a commandment to burn unbelievers but refers to believers.
Only believers are commanded to abide in Christ .
A common practice of viticulture is the pruning and burning of unproductive branches, this applys to unproductive believers.
God hastens those believers who persist in willful disobedience.
It is probably wrong to conclude that the expression “they are burnedâ€
Again Hilter was a wolf in sheeps clothing. A counterfeit christian.
August 15th, 2006 at 7:18 pmMat 7:15, 20-23 (NIV) “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves… Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them… Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evil doers!’”
#351
It is probably wrong to conclude that the expression “they are burned†refers specifically to physical death.
August 15th, 2006 at 7:37 pmGood thing your ancestors ate meat so the human brain could evolve. Otherwise you wouldn’t be able to make the decision to not eat meat. Ha ha!
Comment by SUSA — August 14, 2006 @ 10:57 pm
Except for all the animals who died so I could just go back to doing it the way our ancestors did…
August 15th, 2006 at 8:45 pmI would rather see the money not have been spent in the first place and the education budget streamlined on it’s own.
I think there’s a fine line between being fiscally responsible and being frugal to your own detriment.
I’m talking about spending money on something in addition to the education system that is desperately needed, instead of spending it on a pointless war.
To me that helps a whole lot more than the government funding some bloated program with overpriced gear that sucks. There are plenty of people that would give to afterschool programs for marketing deals and the goodness of their heart.
Comment by Tundra — August 14, 2006 @ 11:02 pm
I guess this is where we will ahve to disagree. I think the reason the government got involved in the first place was to assure equal opportunity education for all. And to turn it over to Capitalism just makes it seems a bit like prostitution to me. This way, we received a grant to get the program started. I’ll be earning extra money to supplement my pitiance of a salary, and the kids will have something to do instead of running around unsupervised (which is when they will be in trouble). I have ZERO problem putting my tax dollars into that. Unlike Iraq…
August 15th, 2006 at 8:52 pmThat’s why we don’t have giant cow teeth. Well, maybe unbelievable does….
Comment by Zooey — August 14, 2006 @ 11:08 pm
Evolution doesn’t work that quickly. Plus, Zoo, I don’t eat grass….
August 15th, 2006 at 8:53 pmTime to read & sleep.
Comment by Wilco — August 14, 2006 @ 11:19 pm
Porn?
August 15th, 2006 at 8:55 pmIt is probably wrong to conclude that the expression “they are burned†refers specifically to physical death.
Comment by PJ — August 15, 2006 @ 12:27 pm
I’m not that gullible… It says what it says. I believe they want people to kill others. If you would study Middle Eastern history, you’d understand that.
You can try to spin your way out of the truth, but it doesn’t mean I have to fall for it. And I don’t.
August 15th, 2006 at 8:59 pmMat 7:15, 20-23 (NIV) “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves… Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them… Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evil doers!’â€
Comment by PJ — August 15, 2006 @ 7:18 pm
Well, see, by your logic, the opposite of what is said is exactly true (I mean you did twist the meaning of the post I made to fit what you wanted it to say). So, by your own premise, the above passage says that you should lie with dogs and be happy that they gave you fleas…
And I’m irrational for rejecting religion? I don’t think so…
August 15th, 2006 at 9:03 pmWhere can I buy Bo Dietl toilet paper? What a shit-for-brains asshole. Even the most dumb of dumb-asses knows that Islam has been around for over a thousand years. What an incredible, useless, FOX News shill, shithead, loser, dipshit, stupid idiot, moron, lowlife, scumbag. A real shit eater I tell ya!
August 16th, 2006 at 2:57 am[...] Oh for the love of…Islam is a “Johnny-come-lately” religion? I guess when Muhammad introduced Islam in 610 A.D. he was accused of being a poser, eh? If Islam is a fad, I’d love to hear what this guy’s opinion of Scientology is! [...]
August 16th, 2006 at 8:16 amAnd I’m irrational for rejecting religion? I don’t think so…
Comment by unbelievable
You obviously believe what you want to.
Your knowledge is limited.
Good luck with your studies in Ancient Rome etc.
August 16th, 2006 at 4:13 pmYou do excellent at insults, rude comments, and put downs. A+
You have great tutors here to help you with that.
PJ,
You’re projecting. Religion is about belief. Science is about acceptance. I accept the fact that there is no proof of a god. Has zero to do with belief.
I called you dear…
It’s not an insult when someone is pointing out the truth. It is denial when you can’t handle the truth so you blame other people for your choices. Not my fault you don’t like the sound of reality.
August 16th, 2006 at 6:57 pmunbelievable
“I accept the fact that there is no proof of a god”. You have the whole universe as a proof. Take it from the farthest galaxies to the smallest nucleus, or just observe cells and how they fuction.
” Scientists are the ones who fear GOD the most “.
August 16th, 2006 at 7:51 pmSomewhere, deep in the Redneck Woods, sits a trailerhouse wherein (I never get to use that line…) LIES the next Oklahoma Bomber. It is senseless, irregardless of the stupidity, statements such as this one, that ignited the obsessed mind, corrupted soul, and terrorized spirit of Timothy McVay and whoever that Unabomber guy was/is.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:30 pmWith the neocon call for religious profiling of all Muslims on aircraft, the rantings by Cavuto are but one more brick in the wall between sanity and insanity.
. You have the whole universe as a proof. Take it from the farthest galaxies to the smallest nucleus, or just observe cells and how they fuction.
The universe is proof of evolution and, if you bothered to learn anything about it, it actually increases the likelihood that a god does not exist.
I keep asking, but none of you can answer, and teh whole universe is filled with anomolies of this kind – creation and a functionless appendix in humans are incompatable. Prove otherwise.
†Scientists are the ones who fear GOD the most “.
Comment by observer — August 16, 2006 @ 7:51 pm
Not at all. Scientists do not fear the concept of god(s). They (gods) are simply pointless.
August 17th, 2006 at 4:54 pmunbelievable
How did we all get this far without your great knowledge and wisdom?
You have again some great opinions. You’re entitled to your version of truth.
I guess when you and your buddies call Bush a chimp next time, remember you came from one too. You’re just more advanced.
You remind me of this guy backin 64 AD named Nero.
He was very logical/sane like you. He burned Christians
to use as evening lights. Maybe your two are related?
“Atheism and socialism – or liberalism, which tends in the same direction – are inseparable entities. When you have men who no longer believe that God is in charge of human affairs, you have men attempting to take the place of God by means of the superstate.”
Logical Solution to Worlds Problems according to unbelievable the Temporary Messiah
Forget about Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jong-ll, Castro etc.
We know it is Christians like George Bush that are causing….
I let you fill in the rest genius.
What do Nero, Bill Maher, and unbelievable have in common?
August 17th, 2006 at 7:30 pmAnswer: They like to to torture Christians.
Here is this fictional character in history that claimed He was God just like you.
unbelievable – Your name kind of fits you.
Jesus Christ was more than a “good man.” He is God.
August 17th, 2006 at 7:36 pmPhilippians 2:6
Hebrews 1:8
Religion has done absolutely nothing tangible for the benefit of mankind. Nothing! Organized religion is the greatest evil ever perpetrated upon the human race. There are countless examples where religion has been nothing but a detriment to humanity and the advancement thereof.
So all you God-mongers out there looking for a sign or something to prop up to tell the world what a great guy God is, wait for the day that all the sick children at St. Jude’s Childrens Hospital to all of a sudden get up and walk out of that place, under their own power, cured, never to have to return, might show me something. Short of something of that nature, I won’t waste my time.
August 17th, 2006 at 11:05 pmUnblievable
This is just one example of the existance of GOD. It is mentioned in the Holy Quran that at the end of times the sun will rise from the west 1500 years ago, and now scientists are saying that the earth is slowing down to the point that it will start spinning in the opposite direction.
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