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his IQ and poll rating are finally aligned
August 15th, 2006 at 11:42 amCBS 8/11-13/06 36approve 57disapprove 7unsure
FOX/Opinion Dynamics RV 8/8-9/06 36approve 56disapprove 8unsure
[from: http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm ]
How low can Emperor Bush go? And why haven’t We The People stormed the gates and have him bodily removed into exile or hauled up before the World Court?
August 15th, 2006 at 11:43 amGood post J.C…I agree and have wondered for 5+ years how did we get to this point and what will it take to get us back on a good track……Blessings
August 15th, 2006 at 11:47 amBlessings
Comment by Sharon Cox — August 15, 2006 @ 11:47 am
They say you were having troubles posting in. Is that right?
August 15th, 2006 at 11:49 amThats the majority for them. Democracy, freedom, democracy, freedom…whatever.
August 15th, 2006 at 11:50 amThere is a core group of 35% to 40% who will back the Dubya Dunce Decider Dictator no matter what, even if Bush revealed himself as the anti-Christ those fools would still support him!
August 15th, 2006 at 11:54 amwe don’t take kindly to polls that don’t take kindly over here…
August 15th, 2006 at 11:55 amIt’s still too high…….
August 15th, 2006 at 11:56 amDoes this mean he is up slightly and if so, who is disseminating the large amount of crack that precipitate such a rise?
August 15th, 2006 at 11:56 amAccording to right-wing columnist Cal Thomas, 63% of Americans are now to be labeled as “Taliban” for opposing Bush’s policies.
August 15th, 2006 at 11:57 amBut…he’s such a nice man and such a good Christian.
August 15th, 2006 at 11:59 amBush’s approval rating on terrorism is in the 50’s. Don’t get carried away here liberals. The main issue again will be terrorism in the 2006 elections.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:00 pmChimpy McStupid President said today that WE are fighting a 3 front war on TERRORISM – Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lebanon. Note Mr “I want to bomb innocent children” has just taken us into a war in a country the CONRESS did not declare war on. Where in the Constitution does it say the President can UNILATERALLY declare war on a country without Congressional approval!
August 15th, 2006 at 12:01 pmwho are the 4% of “liberal democrats” who approve of this train-wreck? ITMFA
August 15th, 2006 at 12:04 pm#12 : You mean the Trumped Up-Phoney Baloney-War on Terrorism- these Neo CONS have been spouting for 5 1/2 years? The terrorists are patsies for the CIA to carry out their DASTARDLY DEEDS.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:05 pmMr.Big, you don’t believe that bullshit, do you? I’m no liberal, but I like to examine the issue with a clear head. The Hamburglar could do a better job on terrorism.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:06 pmJuan C. For some reason I was blocked out for a week……Didn’t recieve and could not send or post on TP…..Went to lot’s of other sites and did a lot of surfing, which I had not done before.That was the good part, lot’s of great stuff out there in internet land…..Missed the posts and info here , but , this is just a small part of info around and since I am on a learning quest I will keep on with the studies.. Wrote several emails to tp wondering why, still havent heard….Suprisingly it just went through and worked this morning. Since I have been weaned away will probably stray often…… Blessings all..Peace……Work for removing bush from office.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:11 pmIf George W. Bush appeared on national television, and suddenly killed and ate a disabled child in a wheelchair he would still have an approval rating above 32%. The Right Wing blogosphere would call him a hero for killing a “potential terrorist.” The Department of Homeland Security would raise the terror threat level to High, remarking that al Qaeda planned to use disabled people and pregnant women as suicide bombers.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:18 pmBush’s approval rating on terrorism is in the 50’s. Don’t get carried away here liberals. The main issue again will be terrorism in the 2006 elections.
Comment by Mr. Big
Exactly, and the voters will correct the current Administrations failures this November. The truth is out, and the Repukes are losing the war on terror by NOT CAPTURING Bin Laden, by NOT protecting our skies or our ports, and by NOT creating a version of Democracy (i.e. don’t elect the terrorists?!) that suits them.
Three strikes, and your out.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:18 pmUnless Diebold can fix another election and yet another, DieNow….unless…..
August 15th, 2006 at 12:24 pmMr.Big, you don’t believe that bullshit, do you?
The polling that has Bush’s approval on terrorism in the 50’s is bullshit? How so?
The Hamburglar could do a better job on terrorism.
That’s not the way the American people see it. According to the polls, Bush gets good marks on handling terrorism.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:27 pmOK, but doesn’t this signify that 37% of Americans are certifiably insane?
August 15th, 2006 at 12:27 pmExactly, and the voters will correct the current Administrations failures this November.
That would be a mistake. Democrats should run on the issues that favor them: education, the enviornment, healthcare. They shouldn’t run the 2006 campaigns on Bush’s strength, terrorism. That’s suicide. They are getting shnookered by Rove — again. But I love it.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:29 pmIm Doing A HECKAVUH Of A JOB!
August 15th, 2006 at 12:31 pmFreedoms on the March!
Freedoms on the March!
Condi come wipe my ass!
-GWB
I wanted to make sure the Think Progress Community were made aware of a blogger conference to be held in New Orleans on the Katrina anniversary weekend. It’s called Rising Tide, and more information can be found here.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:32 pmStrength????
How long can the fear card be played? How long will it be before the whimpering masses realize that there is no booga-booga out there in the dark–at least not one that garners the necessity for such a totalitarian regime being re-upped.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:32 pmI wanted to make sure the Think Progress Community were made aware of a blogger conference to be held in New Orleans
Are conservatives allowed?
August 15th, 2006 at 12:36 pm#25, as many as 55% of Americans in one poll approve of the way Bush is handling terrorism. There’s no doubt about it that this is his strong suit. And the fact that there has been no further attacks on our soil since 9/11 is a success. As I pointed out to you in another thread, the 9/11 Commission concluded that we are a safer country, but not yet safe.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:39 pmBush’s Strength…Terrorism. You mean, the strength of completely ignoring the PDB in August ‘01 all but declaring that OBL was set to use commercial planes against the USA. You mean, the strength to sit stone faced, the “deer in the headlights” look, for a full seven friggin’ minutes while our country was under attack. You mean, the strength to yell out a bullhorn at ground zero., “and the people who made these buildings fall will hear from us!”, but has yet to capture OBL (In fact, doesn’t even think about him anymore). You mean, the strength to play guitar while a portion of our country basically drowned in a natural disaster.
Yep, those are some good strengths to vote for!
August 15th, 2006 at 12:41 pmDRxj, you’ve obviously seen Micheal Moore’s movie, Farenhiet 9/11. I’ve seen it too, and it makes those same charges.
Bush has an approval rating on handling terrorism in the 50’s. Yes, that is his strength. People trust him, more than the Democrats to handle the issue. Terrorism is the most important issue facing this country today.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:43 pmwhat charges? I’m stating facts.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:45 pmBig, Bush isn’t running for president again.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:46 pmThe Dems, however, poll really well against the Reps in handling terrorism.
And terrorism isn’t the big issue. It’s the war in Iraq.
Bush has an approval rating on handling terrorism in the 50’s. Yes, that is his strength. People trust him, more than the Democrats to handle the issue. Terrorism is the most important issue facing this country today.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 15, 2006 @ 12:43 pm
With the wall to wall Orwellian propaganda the American people are relentlessly subject to, it’s an indictment he’s not in the mid 80’s. Thank God for the internet I guess.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:47 pmNO Mr. Big > the most important issue for Americans today is JOBS > the economy is on the verge of complete collapse! Terrorism fears does NOT put food on the table for Americans, nor does it pay their electic bills, nor anything else! Bush is a vile despotic fool!
August 15th, 2006 at 12:49 pmFor those of you still in terror, grow up and snap out of it. For those of you advocating a “final solution” for the middle east, shame on you.
Add up all the little bands of anti-American terrorists. They can’t invade America. Or any of your allies for that matter. Or anyone. They can’t hurt your economy — unless cowards in government let them. The only thing they can do is try to get in another sucker punch sometime. And yeah, it will hurt. But your country, your traditions, your future have nothing to fear.
Please, please get rid of the Republicans they are wrecking the planet.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:51 pmthe most important issue for Americans today is JOBS > the economy is on the verge of complete collapse!
And yet the unemployment rate is 4.6%, which is better than the average of the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. The sky is falling!
August 15th, 2006 at 12:51 pm#31 – Right on!
In fact, take a look at http://www.pollingreport.com/prioriti.htm and you’ll see from a Harris pole that the number one priority for folks is indeed the occupation of Iraq, followed by the economy, and then way down in the number 9 (count ‘um, 9!) position is terrorism.
RiechWingNuts should have an interesting explaining the November elections if the landslide goes to the Dems. What will Rethuglicans do then? Do as their fear-inducing leader has done? Lawyer up???
August 15th, 2006 at 12:52 pmthe most important issue for Americans today is JOBS > the economy is on the verge of complete collapse!
And yet the unemployment rate is 4.6%, which is better than the average of the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. The sky is falling!
Comment by Mr. Big — August 15, 2006 @ 12:51 pm
That’s not much good if 30% of the workforce are employed by walmart and McDonalds ….. twice.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:53 pmit’s an indictment he’s not in the mid 80’s.
He is, with Republicans. Republicans approve of Bush’s handling of terrorism in the high 80’s. And they are motivated to vote in November.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:53 pmpole == poll
Duh.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:53 pmeconomy, and then way down in the number 9 (count ‘um, 9!) position is terrorism.
Looks like the majority are not as readily spooked as Mr. “Big”.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:54 pmThat’s not much good if 30% of the workforce are employed by walmart and McDonalds ….. twice.
Who cares? They have jobs. They are supporting themselves rather than being on welfare. The unemployment rate is only 4.6%.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:55 pmMr. Big…I’ll help you out
9/11
9/11
9/11
BOO!
Vote Repulican, or else get duct tape!
August 15th, 2006 at 12:56 pmit’s an indictment he’s not in the mid 80’s.
He is, with Republicans. Republicans approve of Bush’s handling of terrorism in the high 80’s. And they are motivated to vote in November.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 15, 2006 @ 12:53 pm
Yeah, that says it all really.
The US government is largely made up of incompetent, amoral assholes, the supporting evidence for this contention is overwhelming. Yet 30-40% of the population persist in providing their support to these people. The cognitive disconnect that allows this, in otherwise normal people, is widened and nourished by fervent religious belief.
You guys need to get some serious electoral reform to sort that out.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:56 pmLOL Mr. Big > the unemployment figure you post is a fallacy spewed out by the Bush Regime > actual unemployed is about 10% nationwide and in some places as high as 25%! The economy is on the verge of collapse, but you do not notice it yet, because GOP members only care about themselves, so as long as they are OK it’s screw everybody else!
August 15th, 2006 at 12:56 pmactual unemployed is about 10%
Maybe where you live, but the actual unemployment rate in this country is only 4.6%.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:58 pmIf I remember correctly, didn’t they (the administration) change the formulation for “unemployment”?
August 15th, 2006 at 12:59 pmMr. Big;
August 15th, 2006 at 12:59 pmCan you give a reference to where you saw that Bush’s approval rating on Terrorism is in the 50’s? I would like to see if there is an article wurrounding that number.
The US government is largely made up of incompetent, amoral assholes
Yeah, and they have a (D) after their names. heh.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:59 pmBig, you seem misinformed. Many people employed full time are on welfare. You know this. And people who work at Walmart don’t have medical insurance thru them, and personal insurance can cost one person hundreds of dollars each month. Wages haven’t even kept up with inflation, and I won’t even start on the minimum wage. Sure people are working, but they are making less money, when costs are up. But, I”m glad someone here is thrilled to be paying $3/gallon at the pumps when they were just over $1/gallon when Bush took office.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:00 pmThe US government is largely made up of incompetent, amoral assholes
Yeah, and they have a (D) after their names. heh.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 15, 2006 @ 12:59 pm
Yeah. Hilarious, if not for the decade long disconnect from reality.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:02 pm#40 – …and then way down in the number 9 (count ‘um, 9!) position is terrorism.
Looks like the majority are not as readily spooked as Mr. “Bigâ€.
What is very bizarre about the ReichWingNut mind is that they DO NOT understand that they are more likely to be killed by anthrax than they are from a terrorist attack… they are more likely to be killed by lightning than they are by anthrax… and… they are more likely to hit the lottery than they are likely to be killed by lightning!
Hello?! Is it any wonder why people with 1/2 a thinking brain know the Bush Cabal for the fools they really are?
August 15th, 2006 at 1:03 pmSo, I take it that you don’t agree with the standard Karl Rove procedure which is to attack your opponent on his strength.
I don’t agree with that strategy. Democrats need to be attacked on their weakness in the War on Terror. That they would weaken the tools that can be used in fighting terrorism (Patriot Act, NSA surveliance), and that they would cut and run.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:03 pmLOL Mr. Big you are foolish, because that 4.6% is a proven fallacy! When the economy collapses completely, I do hope you are one of the first ones standing in a bread line, or sitting in a soup kitchen!
August 15th, 2006 at 1:05 pm#54 – …Democrats need to be attacked on their weakness in the War on Terror…
I assume you heard of Project Bojinka. Right? Then you know what the Clinton Administration put a stop to an effort of equal magnitude to what the Brits just uncovered. Right? That’s right, the Dems put a stop to a major airline attack. And did they trumpet this all over the media? No! They just did their job and kept us safe.
You can’t say the same thing for the Bush Cabal. And thinking Americans know it!
August 15th, 2006 at 1:07 pmAnd thinking Americans know it!
Sadly, there are too few of those.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:09 pmWhen the economy collapses completely, I do hope you are one of the first ones standing in a bread line, or sitting in a soup kitchen!
When’s that gonna be? When the Dems raise taxes again?
August 15th, 2006 at 1:10 pmSadly, there are too few of those.
Comment by Wilco
Well, we’ve got 63% actually using their brain cells, and not following the ditto heads of America
August 15th, 2006 at 1:11 pmIt Is All About 9/11
We should let the GOP do 1/2 of our job for us. I agree with them, the next election is all about 9/11 and who do you trust to provide for our security. Since 9/11 the Republican White House and Republican controlled congress has done the following:
1. Failed to protect our borders, F
2. Failed to protect our biological plants, F.
3. Failed to protect our nuclear plants, F.
4. Failed to protect our chemical plants, F.
5. Failed to provide improved emergency communications, as prescribed by 9/11 Commission, F.
6. Failed to implement an effective TSA, $ for porn, $ for furniture, $ for plama TVs, but no $ for bomb screening equip, F.
7. Failed to prosecute terrorist, F
8. Failed to erradicate Taliban, hell they’re not even on the terrorist list, FFFF.
I could go on until my fingers bleed. Let’s talk about 9/11 and what a total failure this administration has been.
Let’s be very clear, the Republicans are far to busy sucking money out of our governement to be concerned with out protection. No one should ever confulse the strength of our defenses with a lack of any offensive campaign by OBL and company. He’s alive and capable of planning, as well as training, as he’s proved to be very patient in the past.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:12 pmAnd the fact that there has been no further attacks on our soil since 9/11 is a success comment by Mr. Big
Since American planes and passengers were the apparent target of the terrorist plot in England, we now see the goal posts of “success” moved…again.
they would weaken the tools that can be used in fighting terrorism (Patriot Act, NSA surveliance), and that they would cut and run. comment by Mr. Big
Actually, we want to weaken the BushCo tools used in fighting political opponents and the Constitution. NSA surveillance with oversight is fine.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:12 pmI assume you heard of Project Bojinka. Right? Then you know what the Clinton Administration put a stop to an effort of equal magnitude to what the Brits just uncovered. Right?
Clinton deserves credit for foiling that plot in the Phillipeans. But the problem is that this isn’t Bill Clinton’s party anymore. He was a moderate. The crazy liberals taking over the Democrat party, are miles away from where Clinton stood politically. There’s no way I would trust somebody like Ned Lamont or Howard Dean to handle national security.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:13 pmI was referring to people on both sides, actually.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:13 pm#29: People trust [Bush], more than the Democrats to handle the issue [terrorism].
Actually, this is false. Recent polls give Democrats a small advantage in this area. A majority of Americans understand that insisting on Congressional oversight and sane foreign policy is not a sign of “weakness.”
August 15th, 2006 at 1:17 pmMr. Big, as a Bush supporter, what accomplishments are you most proud of after 6 years?
Keeping taxes low.
Appointing Alito and Roberts to the Supreme Court.
Protecting the nation from further terrorists attacks.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:20 pmThe crazy liberals taking over the Democrat party, are miles away from where Clinton stood politically. There’s no way I would trust somebody like Ned Lamont or Howard Dean to handle national security.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 15, 2006 @ 1:13 pm
I see you got the talking point memo, unhappily for you, so did we. Anyone that makes such an obvious and unbalanced comment is classed as “troll” and all credibility is removed. You might just as well stop posting, unless your purpose is simply to annoy?
You’ve certainly lost all chance of a dialouge:-(
August 15th, 2006 at 1:20 pm#62: The crazy liberals taking over the Democrat party, are miles away from where Clinton stood politically. There’s no way I would trust somebody like Ned Lamont or Howard Dean to handle national security.
Apparently you haven’t been reading the news lately. Bill Clinton recently made a statement in support of Ned Lamont’s view on national security, blasting Lieberman for supporting the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld approach.
Ned Lamont’s view on Iraq is consistent with the majority of Americans, who want U.S. troops to withdraw from Iraq in the next 12 months. This is hardly an extremist position.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:21 pm#62 – I assume you heard of Project Bojinka. Right? Then you know what the Clinton Administration put a stop to an effort of equal magnitude to what the Brits just uncovered. Right?
Clinton deserves credit for foiling that plot in the Phillipeans…
Will wonders never cease. Of course the Clinton Administration deserves credit for being strong on terrorism!
It is YOUR side the dropped the ball. It is YOUR side that refused to listen to the Dems on UBL being a threat when Emperor George took office! It is YOUR side that started spying on US citizens in clear violation of the Constitution and law! It is YOUR side who bungled their way into Iraq on false pretenses. It is YOUR side who have allowed the Taliban to regain strength in Afghanistan!
Don’t give me this crap about Dems being week on anything. No way am I going to accept that. No. Not at all.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:21 pmwhat accomplishments are you most proud of after 6 years?
Must be that 87 foot pike he caught. Or his successful war on pretzels. He personally trapped one in his throat and then killed it!
August 15th, 2006 at 1:21 pm#64, Bush’s approval rating on handling terrorism is in the 50’s, including a poll posted on this site.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:22 pmDon’t give me this crap about Dems being week on anything. No way am I going to accept that. No. Not at all.
Howard Dean and Ned Lamont are strong on national defense?
August 15th, 2006 at 1:24 pmDon’t give me this crap about Dems being week on anything. No way am I going to accept that. No. Not at all.
Howard Dean and Ned Lamont are strong on national defense?
Comment by Mr. Big — August 15, 2006 @ 1:24 pm
Ummm … yeah. It’s all about not killing people at random … see?
August 15th, 2006 at 1:26 pm#71 – Bush’s approval rating on handling terrorism is in the 50’s, including a poll posted on this site.
Why can’t you accept that “terrorism” is a non-issue with Americans?
Please remember, #1 is the occupation of Iraq, #2 is the economy. And “terrorism” is #9. How can you possibly believe that a #9 position will carry ReichWingNuts to victory in ‘06 or ‘08?
I don’t know what you’re thinking, but it’s certainly not reality!
August 15th, 2006 at 1:26 pmWhy can’t you accept that “terrorism†is a non-issue with Americans?
Terrorism is a non issue with most Democrats, unfortuantly. And that is kind of scarry. They act like 9/11 never happened or something, or they have a pre-9/11 mindset.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:29 pmthey have a pre-9/11 mindset.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 15, 2006 @ 1:29 pm
C’mon guy, this stuff is just embarrasing:-)
August 15th, 2006 at 1:30 pm#72 – The first WTC attack occured 30 days into Clinton’s presidency. There were no more islamic attacks on our soil for the next 7 years, longer than Bush has “kept us safe.†So, by the logic of that argument, Clinton was more successful at fighting terrorism and “keeping us safe†than Bush. But, you all hated Clinton. You hounded him morning, noon and night. You kept him in depositions, asking questions about oral sex when you should have been supporting his fight against terrorism. Why do republicans hate America?
Right on! Absolutely!! Right Freak’n ON!!!
August 15th, 2006 at 1:31 pmor they have a pre-9/11 mindset.
Comment by Mr. Big
You’re are correct sir! Pre-9/11….you know, when our country was SAFE!!!!
August 15th, 2006 at 1:32 pmTerrorism is a non issue with most Democrats, unfortuantly. And that is kind of scarry. They act like 9/11 never happened or something, or they have a pre-9/11 mindset.
Yeah I bet if the Dems were in charge, they’d cut research budget in half for new technologies in the war on terror. They’d probably divert $5 million just from new detection technology development! Damn those Democrats!
Oh wait….
August 15th, 2006 at 1:32 pmWhy do republicans hate America?
Right on! Absolutely!! Right Freak’n ON!!!
Comment by Jesus Christ God of WAR — August 15, 2006 @ 1:31 pm
They don’t just hate America, they hate the world. There is a core of republicans that are incapable of anything but hate.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:33 pm“PNAC American superiority” and “Mr. Big” = a happy marriage
August 15th, 2006 at 1:33 pm#81 – You’re are correct sir! Pre-9/11….you know, when our country was SAFE!!!
Our country could be safe again. Except for the fact that the ReichWingNut Bush Cabal blew it. Big time.
The only thing the Bush Cabal is good for is chaos. At this they exceeded expectations.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:33 pmPosted on the Clinton thread:
Wally, you guys are obsessed with polls. Go outside and breath in some fresh air, my friend. Comment by Mr. Big
Hhhmmm
August 15th, 2006 at 1:37 pmDemocrats = Soft on Terror
Yes, remember the thousands killed when planes exploded over the Pacific?
Remember the hundreds upon hundreds murdered when the millenium terrorist set off several bombs at LAX?
Remember how the WTC bombers were never caught, and are still at large, planning bigger attacks?
Remember how certain members of the “militia” not only succesfully bombed a building in Oklahoma, but were never apprehended, and subsequently went on to murder thousands more as they ran amok across this country?
All this happened while that “soft on Terror” Clinton was in office!!
Remember?
August 15th, 2006 at 1:39 pmBush is only still perceived as being strong on terrorism because the Democrats have failed to drive home a very simple yet powerful message…
1) Bush has spent at least $250 Billion to wage a war of choice against a country that had no ties to Al Quaeda, no WMD’s, and no ability to threaten America… How much more border, port, airport, and subway security could this $250 Billion have bought for America?
2) Instead of using our homeland security money to keep America safe – he has spent it waging an unnecessary war that is destabilizing the Middle East and is creating more terrorists than it is getting rid of.
3) His poor choices are making us less able to defend ourselves against terrorists not more able!!!
If Democrats repeat this very message over and over leading up to Nov… terrorism will no longer be Bush’s strong point.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:42 pm#89 – …Remember how certain members of the “militia†not only succesfully bombed a building in Oklahoma, but were never apprehended, and subsequently went on to murder thousands more as they ran amok across this country?…
I love your sense of irony.
What religious group informed this “militia”? Oh. That’s right. Christian.
Must have been one of those kinder gentler ten thousand points of light compassionate convservative christian group.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:45 pmAll this happened while that “soft on Terror†Clinton was in office!!
Clinton deserves credit for what he did do on the terror front. And he also deserves credit for the good economy, as do the Republicans in congress at that time.
But, Clinton is not running this year. Remember, he endorsed Lieberman in the primary. That’s the candidate he really wanted.
Clinton is a far cry from the modern day libs, Howard Dean, Ned Lamont, and Russ Feingold. The Dailykos types who are taking over the Democrat party.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:45 pm#92 – …Dems are battling both Repubs and the media.
Yet even with this going against them, there may well be a landslide shift to the Dems come November.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:47 pmthere may well be a landslide shift to the Dems come November.
That’s what was supposed to happen in CA-50. Busby was supposed to win that race in a landslide. She lost.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:48 pmClinton is a far cry from the modern day libs, Howard Dean, Ned Lamont, and Russ Feingold. The Dailykos types who are taking over the Democrat party.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 15, 2006 @ 1:45 pm
You say that is if it’s a bad thing. Getting the troops out of Iraq will make both Iraq and America safer. It’s all about not killing people at random … geddit?
August 15th, 2006 at 1:50 pmBluedog, who did the Clintons support in the CT primary? Who did they wish won?
August 15th, 2006 at 1:50 pmThe 4.6% your talking about numb nuts is the number that are on unemployment. Once that runs out your off unemployment and that number drops.It doesn’t mean your working. Those numbers only work on shallow minded people like yourself.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:52 pmThe average wage for workers however has dropped since the Bush administration as stolen power. And as if they’re not rich enough the GOP won’traise the minimum wage from $5.15 an hour unless the super wealthy get a tax cut. Now that might seem right in Your simple mind but a lower class worker cannot survive on that wage.
Where does that get fair. The only way for them to support their family is to join the military fight for the very oppressors that are keeping them. And when he gets hurt and come home he finds that his benefits have been cut by the same people he went to fight for. You spineless republicans don’t take any responsibilty for the action you created you blame it on everyone else but yourselves. The Republican party has had control of government for long time and the only time they give anything to the people is if you get something more in return. All the republicans have done is create an atmosphere of fear and oppression. Peace is War, Poor is Rich, Stay the course is Adapt and Win. Excercise your right and vote your a terrorist.
#98, The Democrats touted Busby and said she was going to trounce Bilbrey in CA-50. This was supposed to be the big race that the Democrats would win, signaling what was to come in November. The Democrat lost.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:52 pmMr. Big, why is Lamont not a modern day lib? What rubs you the wrong way about this guy? Is it his stance on the war in Iraq?
August 15th, 2006 at 1:52 pm#98, The Democrats touted Busby and said she was going to trounce Bilbrey in CA-50. This was supposed to be the big race that the Democrats would win, signaling what was to come in November. The Democrat lost.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 15, 2006 @ 1:52 pm
Why don’t we all just … you know …. wait?
August 15th, 2006 at 1:55 pmAfter reading the posts on this site for several months there seems to be some consistency as to the feelings of the “bloggers …..let me summarize……because somewhere in my following list you (yes, you the wacko “progressiveâ€) will find an answer to ALL of the problems that America faces today….or at least the person/persons that are responsible for such a miserable existence that we must trudge through in America…..America the damned!!! Each of the items below are just a snippet of what “think progress†stands for….so…in your words….
Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate…
Fox News is Hitler’s SS version of propaganda…
The Democrats are waayyy too conservative and right-leaning….
The Republicans (gulp…I said the word Republicans) work for the Devil…
Lieberman is a Bush crony that never accomplished anything for the state of Connecticut…
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
The War in Iraq was certainly for the oil and making rich people richer!!!
Halliburton? Planning the war(s) for years before 9/11…
9/11? Bush not only knew exactly what/where/when/how…..he helped to plan it…..
9/11? The towers were not taken down by airplanes…American C-4 explosives were strategically placed to “take ‘em downâ€â€¦.
Bush planted the C4…along with the help of Cheney and Rumsfield…
The War in Iraq was certainly a follow-up to papa Bush….and his “failure†in removing Saddam…..
Terrorism is not that big of a deal…it should be monitored and controlled by our police agencies….not the government….
OBL is not that bad….hell, America created him!!
Saddam is not the bad…hell, America created him!!
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not that bad….he does not want nukes for weapons…its all about the fuel baby!!!
Problems in the Middle East…Americas fault…
Darfur? Bush and Cheney are not fully responsible for the genocide—but at least 78%….
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
Try to resolve the problems in the Middle East??—Why does America feel it should stick its nose in others business…
Israel…America’s puppet….
Israel is the cause of most of the problems in the Middle East….Hezbollah is not a terrorist organization—they were “elected†into a position of power in a democratic government!!!
America did the worse job of evacuating its citizens from Lebanon…Denmark did the best…Denmark is #1!!! Denmark is #1!!!….
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
American flags are made for one purpose….to burn!!!!!!!!
The primary run off in Ct proves that the American people want an immediate withdrawal from Iraq….
AIDS in Africa killing scores? Bush’s Fault….well, maybe 82% responsible…
Socialism #1…Communism #2….Dictatorship #3…Democracy #4…as ranked by the bloggers on “Think Progress†as best form of govt….
Global Warming is a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
The short-comings of American schools…a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
The short-comings of Health-care….a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
Oil?….ever since man has been able to process it into a usable fuel….all the problems have been…..a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
Wal-mart=Capitalism=Bush cronies=Conservatives=devil
Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
Mexican Immigration problem? No problemo…
Katrina?….a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……not the response—the actual cause of the hurricane…a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive
Katrina…response to it?….Bush hates blacks…..it’s that simple……did I mention Bush hates Mexicans, Canadians, French, Italians, Spaniards, Russians, Irish, Germans, Chinese, Japanese, Filipinos, Aussies, Swedes, New Zealanders, anybody that might be of south American persuasion, anybody that might be a mix bred, anybody from Africa-even if they “look†white, and of course…all Muslims….
Did I mention that according to this site that Bush hates gays? And wants them dead?
The economy—-the worse it’s been in the history of America—-….is a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
International relations? well—before Bush we were loved from china to south America…but now—America is hated all around the world and we need to kowtow to the Europeans and Islam so they like us…..we want other people to like us…we really want other people to like us………please like us…..please?
Homeless problem in a city/town near you?…a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive…
Abortion is good (million+ innocents a year)…Death penalty is Bad (handful of convicted criminals a year)….
(Did I mention that Bush and the Republicans are the devil reincarnate?
Lines at the super-market….. a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive…
Howard Stern being fined for foul behavior/language…. a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive….
Katrina “evacuees†in Houston or other cities committing hideous crimes?… a direct cause of Bush being the Chief-executive……
Christian groups are bigots and things such as “faith day†(at a ball park after the game) are nothing more than the radical rights attempt at “christian-izing†us….
America’s military is weak and the Draft is right around the corner…
“God†should not be in the Pledge….
“God†should not be on our currency…
“God†should not be……….
Cindy Sheehan should not be questioned nor debated…..her son died for her right to hang out in Crawford dam it!!!
America went to war unprepared….look at the hummers!! They have absolutely no armor….and its Bush’s fault…
Democrats and Republicans are all the same…evil…out for themselves…slave-masters (its in their family history)…sex addicts…and of course out to kill Americans in a fake war that was based on purposely fraudulent intelligence…
The (mass) media is covering up everything!!!
Good policing and investigative work is called—racial profiling!!!
“Minimum Wage should be at least $18.00 a hourâ€
“Progressive†reporters get kick out of all the neo-cons news briefings…
“My phones have been taped because I went to an anti-war rally!â€
“My cable has been on the blink and my phone has been making weird noises since I went to a anti-war Rallyâ€
Anybody that makes money and lives a successful life MUST be doing something that hurts the poor or crippled….
Taxes and more taxes are good for the economy…tax cuts/breaks only help the millionaires…
SUV’s were created by conservatives that wanted to help out their “oil buddiesâ€â€¦
People should not be expected to take care of themselves!!! That’s the role of government…
People should not be able to invest their social security account as they wish!! That’s the role of the government…
If I forgot a topic or an issue please just fill it in with the following…
“BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- WAA-WAA WAA-WAA WAA-WAA WAA-WAA..BUSH IS THE DEVIL BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA…REPUBLICANS ARE THE DEVIL… WAA-WAA WAA-WAA WAA-WAA WAA-WAA…AMERICA IS THE CAUSE OF ALL THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD…-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA- BLAH-DA-DOO-DAA…â€
IN CONLUSION::::::
I have posted this because it addresses nearly all the issues that “think progress†and its bloggers believe/state/dream about….in other words, this post can be placed on any of your blogs and it will make sense……thanks “think progress†bloggers for making this so easy….if you think my post is foolish….please remember—these are your words (with some editing liberties taken…oh I forgot—I should not mention anything about taking liberties)….dam America!!!
August 15th, 2006 at 1:55 pm“Clinton is a far cry from the modern day libs, Howard Dean, Ned Lamont, and Russ Feingold. The Dailykos types who are taking over the Democrat party.”
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“Helpful” conservatives who say Democrats keep trying to elect the same type of liberal and should keep it up.
Personally, I don’t care who conservatives think we “should” run. I don’t care who Clinton(s) supported in the primary. I only care that progressives have a voice that is heard and that the public has choices on who to elect. The Lieberman/Lamont race was democracy at its best. Bring it on!
August 15th, 2006 at 1:57 pmLook everyone, Neocon, aka Neocon from ct, aka mike, can cut and paste his funny
August 15th, 2006 at 1:58 pmThe Lieberman/Lamont race was democracy at its best. Bring it on!
True. The pro-war, pro-Bush candidate got 48% of the vote in a Democrat primary. Not bad at all.
August 15th, 2006 at 1:59 pmBring it on!
Comment by PLC (PatrioticLiberalChristian) — August 15, 2006 @ 1:57 pm
Thats the spirit .. here’s hoping for the best:-)
August 15th, 2006 at 2:00 pmThe Republican Party are our terrorists telling us to keep fighting the terrorists.
August 15th, 2006 at 2:00 pmThey are our Religious Extreme Facists.
The are our Hezbullah.
They are the ones that need to be removed.
Hey, quick question, isn’t CA-50 primarily a “red” region?
August 15th, 2006 at 2:00 pmOh, and one other quick question…isn’t there some sort of controversy with the CA-50 elections?
August 15th, 2006 at 2:03 pmI’m not being a smart ass here, I’m truly wondering!
Which democrat said that Busby would “trounce†her opponent in CA 50? I’d like to know, Mr. Big, because I didn’t hear anything of the sort.
Oh, I did. It was said by liberals in threads just like this at the time. That there was a culture of corruption. That Bilbray would go down hard. That Busby would win the districit big. That Republicans were in bad shape. Now it seems that liberals are backtracking because they were wrong. But that’s what they were saying at the time, just like liberals are saying it’s going to be a landslide for the Dems in November now, my friend.
August 15th, 2006 at 2:04 pmthey stood on the steps of the Capitol six months ago and presented a comprehensive plan for keeping America safe, much like the Repubs did with their “contract on America†in ‘94. Only this time, the main-stream media ignored the presentation. Dems are battling both Repubs and the media.
Comment by Bluedog49 — August 15, 2006 @ 1:45 pm
Bluedog 49 – This is a Kerryesk mistake!
Comprehensive plans are to detail oriented for the majority of Americans to follow… these people only understand short and sweet points.
We must repeat the simple message that Bush’s war of choice has diverted American resources away from the real war on terror and has ultimately made us less safe not more!!!
If we repeat this message often enough (in the same style that Kerry was a flip-flopper) people will get the general impression that Bush’s policies have failed us in the war on terrorism… even is they can’t name a single reason why they think this.
At some point after this sentiment has permeated the American Psyche – the media will ask what the Democrats what they would do different… this is when they should roll out the comprehensive plan… when people inquire about it not when they force it on them.
August 15th, 2006 at 2:05 pmIt still indicates that 1/3 of Americans are oblivious.
August 15th, 2006 at 2:09 pmWhat you heard from some blogger on some thread is not what I was talking about.
I was. I was battling them at the time. They were convinced that CA-50 would go Democrat. Are you serious? Liberals didn’t think they were going to win in a landslide Duke Cunningham’s seat? I think you are rewriting history here a little bit.
August 15th, 2006 at 2:13 pmHey Mr. Big;
August 15th, 2006 at 2:14 pmYou never did give a source for the Bush approval rating of 50% on Terrorism issue.
Here’s the poll.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/polls/main1890820.shtml
It says 51%. I think maybe Raw Story had a poll showing 55%.
August 15th, 2006 at 2:21 pmWhen someones house is violated the action taken is to tighten up and secure your own house, you invest in your own infrastructure to make your own house safe.
August 15th, 2006 at 2:22 pmRunning around the neighborhood throwing rocks through windows violating other houses so they don’t violate yours is not what you should be doing. You don’t turn into what violated you.
Wilco;
August 15th, 2006 at 2:39 pmThank you. I found the reference. So 51% approved of Bush on Terrorism, and 37% approved of Bush in general. So a decently large percentage don’t approve of Bush as a whole even though they approve of his work on terror.
Mr. Big is a typical mental midget bullshit artist. He has no sources to post, cause he makes up his selective delusional crap to satiate his ego in order to fool himself.
Boneheads who think Bush has a high approval in any facet and tort how employement is low are more likely to be wageless parasitic bums living in their Mommy’s basement, and they have little clue about the economic status of the US. Consumer debt is now at a record $2.17 trillion, which means lack of jobs and slave wages. The US consumer savings rates is a negative 2%. People are borrowing just to feed themselves and wait till that trillion dollars of ARMs resets to higher rates, and we’ll see massive defaults that make the Great Depression look like playtime at PeeWee’s.
Any Bush approval ratings for this delusional state of terrorism is garnered from idiots that choose to shit all over the founding fathers visons and all those who fought in prior wars for freedom. These goons have sold out America to a conjob.
“The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either.” ~Benjamin Franklin
The Unemployment Rate Myth
http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3890
Bush Polls
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
Well the laugh is on you Mr. Twig, so reap the whirlwind fool. Karma is going to kick your ass hard and it doesn’t care if your an idiot or evil.
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