so much for the alleged libruhl bias of PBS. Now, even they are knuckling under to the bushniks; I guess that makes PBS officially a member of the mainstream media…
This is unacceptable. How stupid do the new PBS shills think we are. It is a conflict of interst. Period. Conservative views are one thing…coming out of the mouth of a commentator that has withheld that she works for the government is another. PBS should be shortened to BS. PBS should represent us all…..the fact that they hid this speaks volumes. Wake up people.
Agreed, Zippy. This is just one more damning example to point to whenever some reichwingnut starts sounding off about the ‘liberal media’.
The myth of the ‘liberal media’ is one of the best and most successful lies perpetrated by the neocons…but even the best of the neocons’ lies are crumbling under the oppressive weight of reality….as Steven Colbert said, “reality has a well-known liberal bias”.
#1 is right…it udnermines the whole reason to “keep her” as an expert if you don’t disclose her potential bias. “Keep her”? Shoulda thrown her arse back for pulling that stunt.
This makes this PBS broadcast the moral equivalent of Bush Co’s fake newscasts (and by that I mean the informercial looking ones, not Fox “news”).
I think the folks at PBS are smart enough to know the truth comes out.
I alao think they know anyone who supports abstinence only education does not watch PBS.
In short, this looks worse for Bush than it does for PBS. Doesn’t mean I like it, though.
As for Zippy and all, I seriously doubt ther ARE very many people willing to go on PBS and spew abstinence-only education. Hence the condition of hiding her position.
All this talk about PBS being ‘the equavalent of Fox News now’ is malarkey. PBS has a long LONG standing record of great reports on salient issues. AND they came forward with their cock-up. That’s two big reasons NOT to make that rediculous logical jump ever again. Please.
I agree, but remember content is king. In an error where content is expensive to produce, media outlets are also desperate to fill the 22 minute void between commercials. In PBS’ case this is a 25 minute void between thanking corporate donors.
That should be running on every local news outlet under the headline “These people want to tell your teens how to have sex”. The abstinence only movement would die bitter and quick, like Liberman’s hopes for re-election.
PBS is the same old tired legitimate PBS. I would allow some flex with the rules to hear someone talk about abstinence-only education. I find it uncomfortable in a stimulating kind of way.
I’ll cut PBS some slack. I’m sure they were on the horn right away blowing her cover.
Unfortunately comparisons between PBS and Faux News are more and more apt under this administration:
“[The Corner reports that] Bush plans to nominate Warren Bell, television producer and National Review writer, to the Board of Directors of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB).”
The [now former?] Republican chairman of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting is aggressively pressing public television to correct what he and other conservatives consider liberal bias, prompting some public broadcasting leaders – including the chief executive of PBS – to object that his actions pose a threat to editorial independence.
Don’t take this as anything but a ruse folks. This is purely to elicit outrage from the left about one of it’s own darlings and then torpedo it into history. Well that’s just my thought, we’ll see.
What part of the watermelon are you planning to have sex with? I would hate to think of the bloggers here as being responsible for the corruption of infantile flowers. That sounds like such a Republican thing to do.
Watch PETA buy an island, some cloning vats, and the finest HAV hybrids reaped litigation monies can buy. And ride off into the sunset, never to be seen again.
Another example of how the Bush administration is winning the war on ideas: have your foot soldiers wear civilian close and blend in with the civilian population. But wait, wouldn’t that be an insurgency they are waging on ideas?
So the “only way we could keep her was not to identify her as a Bush person”. So they conspired to hide her identity as a government employee, de facto criminality.
Watch PETA buy an island, some cloning vats, and the finest HAV hybrids reaped litigation monies can buy. And ride off into the sunset, never to be seen again.
ooh ooh, can I take some watermelon animal hybrids with me?!
“The reason the show has not disclosed Czarnecki’s day job, Erbe said, was because the government asked her not to. “Those are the terms on which she could continue to appear,” the host said, explaining that Czarnecki had appeared on her show for several years before she took the government position. “The only terms on which we could keep her was to not identify her as a Bush person.”
Let’s point out that by interfering in this manner, the administration is violating the Corporation for Public Broadcasting legislation/bylaws, which mandates a complete wall between the government and CPB. But of course, they stacked the Board of Directors with conservative Republicans. Bottom line is that there IS NO independent mainstream media anymore. Whether watching news stories on the Lebanon/Israel conflict on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, or FOX…they all tout the pro-Israel/pro-Bush administration dicta. Just like they did prior to our invasion of Iraq.
then don’t keep her.
pbs should be concerned more with viewpoints that are not rooted in empirical propaganda
August 15th, 2006 at 4:01 pmso much for the alleged libruhl bias of PBS. Now, even they are knuckling under to the bushniks; I guess that makes PBS officially a member of the mainstream media…
August 15th, 2006 at 4:06 pmI agree with #1. There are plenty of other talking heads in DC to exploit.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:06 pmThis is unacceptable. How stupid do the new PBS shills think we are. It is a conflict of interst. Period. Conservative views are one thing…coming out of the mouth of a commentator that has withheld that she works for the government is another. PBS should be shortened to BS. PBS should represent us all…..the fact that they hid this speaks volumes. Wake up people.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:08 pmDoesn’t the media realize that the politicians need them? Why do they cave to this crap?
August 15th, 2006 at 4:09 pmAgreed, Zippy. This is just one more damning example to point to whenever some reichwingnut starts sounding off about the ‘liberal media’.
The myth of the ‘liberal media’ is one of the best and most successful lies perpetrated by the neocons…but even the best of the neocons’ lies are crumbling under the oppressive weight of reality….as Steven Colbert said, “reality has a well-known liberal bias”.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:11 pmPBS submitted to this willfully? These are dark days!
August 15th, 2006 at 4:18 pm#1 is right…it udnermines the whole reason to “keep her” as an expert if you don’t disclose her potential bias. “Keep her”? Shoulda thrown her arse back for pulling that stunt.
This makes this PBS broadcast the moral equivalent of Bush Co’s fake newscasts (and by that I mean the informercial looking ones, not Fox “news”).
August 15th, 2006 at 4:18 pmWow that’s really really bad.
I would say this in on par with FNC featuring Bernie Kerack at least once a week and not disclosing that he’s a fraud and a criminal.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:21 pmI think the folks at PBS are smart enough to know the truth comes out.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:22 pmI alao think they know anyone who supports abstinence only education does not watch PBS.
In short, this looks worse for Bush than it does for PBS. Doesn’t mean I like it, though.
As for Zippy and all, I seriously doubt ther ARE very many people willing to go on PBS and spew abstinence-only education. Hence the condition of hiding her position.
All this talk about PBS being ‘the equavalent of Fox News now’ is malarkey. PBS has a long LONG standing record of great reports on salient issues. AND they came forward with their cock-up. That’s two big reasons NOT to make that rediculous logical jump ever again. Please.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:24 pmSuperEdo –
I agree, but remember content is king. In an error where content is expensive to produce, media outlets are also desperate to fill the 22 minute void between commercials. In PBS’ case this is a 25 minute void between thanking corporate donors.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:24 pmApolgies, I misread. But my point stands.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:25 pmPBS should have told her “no” and then made her conditions the story.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:25 pmHow many people are NOT allowed to be pundits becuase they don’t tow the Bushco agenda?
They allowed her, as long as she kept quiet where she worked, there is reason they wanted to hide that.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:26 pmI wonder if Karen Czarnecki condones sex with watermelons, and if she considers it abstinence.
Does anyone have the FOX footage of the abstinence-only inbred who advocated sex with food in the fields?
Anybody?
August 15th, 2006 at 4:27 pm#14 – holding them to the fire. i like that.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:28 pmWhat do you have against sex with watermelons?
August 15th, 2006 at 4:28 pmHave you seen the curves on those ladies?
Put on a little Barry White and watermelons practically BEG for it!
August 15th, 2006 at 4:29 pmI never said there was anything wrong with sex with watermelons. Nice warm watermelons.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:30 pmand america had a long standing record of human rights, but times change.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:31 pmI mean, or so I’ve heard….
August 15th, 2006 at 4:31 pmPBS NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE AND ADMIT THEY’RE BUSH SHILLS!
THEY’VE BEEN COOKED LIKE THE ENRON BOOKS SINCE AYATOLLAH REAGAN THE FIRST!
August 15th, 2006 at 4:32 pm#16
That should be running on every local news outlet under the headline “These people want to tell your teens how to have sex”. The abstinence only movement would die bitter and quick, like Liberman’s hopes for re-election.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:34 pmSo the only terms on which PBS could “keep” Ms Czarnecki would compromise their ethics, and they still agreed to do it?
The admission is mind-boggling.
I have to wonder why they wanted to “keep her” so badly.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:35 pmLame excuse given by PBS > lol.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:35 pmi like seedless the best
August 15th, 2006 at 4:36 pmPBS is the same old tired legitimate PBS. I would allow some flex with the rules to hear someone talk about abstinence-only education. I find it uncomfortable in a stimulating kind of way.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:36 pmI’ll cut PBS some slack. I’m sure they were on the horn right away blowing her cover.
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August 15th, 2006 at 4:38 pmComment by Ronin Tetsuro — August 15, 2006 @ 4:34 pm
I think Al Franken plays it. It was a HANNITY and colmes guest, I think.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:38 pmUnfortunately comparisons between PBS and Faux News are more and more apt under this administration:
“[The Corner reports that] Bush plans to nominate Warren Bell, television producer and National Review writer, to the Board of Directors of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB).”
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/21/warren-bell/
The [now former?] Republican chairman of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting is aggressively pressing public television to correct what he and other conservatives consider liberal bias, prompting some public broadcasting leaders – including the chief executive of PBS – to object that his actions pose a threat to editorial independence.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0502-01.htm
“correcting a liberal bias” in the news was the credo under which FNC began its pro-conservative spin machine.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:38 pm“Human-Animal-Fruit Hybrid” -George W. Bush
August 15th, 2006 at 4:40 pmHuman-animal-vegetable hybrid is fine. And healthy!
August 15th, 2006 at 4:42 pmDon’t take this as anything but a ruse folks. This is purely to elicit outrage from the left about one of it’s own darlings and then torpedo it into history. Well that’s just my thought, we’ll see.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:45 pmWhat part of the watermelon are you planning to have sex with? I would hate to think of the bloggers here as being responsible for the corruption of infantile flowers. That sounds like such a Republican thing to do.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:48 pm#31
Watch PETA buy an island, some cloning vats, and the finest HAV hybrids reaped litigation monies can buy. And ride off into the sunset, never to be seen again.
August 15th, 2006 at 4:51 pmhundreds of fred-ipede-rrots will run wild!
August 15th, 2006 at 4:54 pm** that’s a mix of carrots, centipedes (or millipedes, if you prefer), and guys named Fred **
August 15th, 2006 at 4:55 pmhttp://www.humananimalhybrid.net/
August 15th, 2006 at 4:59 pmAnother example of how the Bush administration is winning the war on ideas: have your foot soldiers wear civilian close and blend in with the civilian population. But wait, wouldn’t that be an insurgency they are waging on ideas?
August 15th, 2006 at 5:01 pmWhat aren’t they telling us? That they had to use her or they woudn’t get funding?
August 15th, 2006 at 5:01 pmI meant “civilian clothes” not “civilian close”! sorry about that
August 15th, 2006 at 5:01 pmDLC, I’m glad the bull-sapien and manrooster beast have enough decency to wear pants
August 15th, 2006 at 5:01 pmSo the “only way we could keep her was not to identify her as a Bush person”. So they conspired to hide her identity as a government employee, de facto criminality.
August 15th, 2006 at 5:37 pmWatch PETA buy an island, some cloning vats, and the finest HAV hybrids reaped litigation monies can buy. And ride off into the sunset, never to be seen again.
ooh ooh, can I take some watermelon animal hybrids with me?!
August 15th, 2006 at 5:37 pm“The reason the show has not disclosed Czarnecki’s day job, Erbe said, was because the government asked her not to. “Those are the terms on which she could continue to appear,” the host said, explaining that Czarnecki had appeared on her show for several years before she took the government position. “The only terms on which we could keep her was to not identify her as a Bush person.”
Let’s point out that by interfering in this manner, the administration is violating the Corporation for Public Broadcasting legislation/bylaws, which mandates a complete wall between the government and CPB. But of course, they stacked the Board of Directors with conservative Republicans. Bottom line is that there IS NO independent mainstream media anymore. Whether watching news stories on the Lebanon/Israel conflict on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, or FOX…they all tout the pro-Israel/pro-Bush administration dicta. Just like they did prior to our invasion of Iraq.
August 15th, 2006 at 7:12 pmNo, it should read:Human-Animal-Fruit Hybrid = George W. Bush
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