President Bush goes hog wild.
By on Aug 16th, 2006 at 7:36 pm
President Bush goes hog wild.
While at a Harley-Davidson plant in Pennsylvania today, Bush jumped on top of a motorcycle. After he was finished, “he ripped off blue-tinted safety glasses that he insisted made him look like rock star Bono and jokingly struck a pose intended to show a hip side.”
UPDATE: Alternet has the video.
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Too bad they didn’t let him go ride it by himself.
August 16th, 2006 at 7:40 pmHarley Davidson’s suck anyway, you pay for the name. (Sorry to all the Harley lovers). They still use lifters which end up leaking oil, still to this day. It’s nostalgia, not quality. It’s a statement of fashion.
August 16th, 2006 at 7:42 pmCan’t wait to see what the Daily Show does with this stupid stunt.
August 16th, 2006 at 7:51 pmEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 16th, 2006 at 7:52 pmAnd here, I thought I would get another “Bush wearing a blue shirt with the sleeves rolled up photo” Bummer.
August 16th, 2006 at 7:52 pmUsed to be presidents looked really awkward when thry tried to act hip. Think Nixon on Laugh-In. Clinton was the first president who could actually pull off “cool”. Bush Jr just looks like the kid who’s so desperate for oithers to think he’s cool that he winds up looking pathetic.
August 16th, 2006 at 8:01 pmFolks we have a teen age to frat boy mentality in a 60 yr old body as the pretender President of the United States
And it’s plain not funny witnessed by the sordid state-of -affairs this sorry ass sack of shit has put this country in
August 16th, 2006 at 8:08 pmCaption contest:
Heh heh, look what ah just hatched outta mah ass!
August 16th, 2006 at 8:09 pmHarley Accomplished!
Glad to see Bush has time for pranks and cute photo-ops. Meanwhile, Iraq is a disaster, our troops are being killed, Iraqis are dying, the deficit is off the map and the U.S. is almost bankrupt, our national security is nonexistent, our education system is collapsing, and, do the math, should Bush really be making time for this complete and utter nonsense when he ought to be doing his job? On second thought, this is exactly what Bush should be doing, because he’s woefully unqualified for the job his father bought him, yet again.
August 16th, 2006 at 8:13 pmDamn that GDumbya anyway! I keep telling him to look Presidential — all he can do is look like a Presidunce.
August 16th, 2006 at 8:14 pmIf he’s not careful, the American public is going to figure out that he’s just a smarmy, swaggering, smirking little puppet and that I am the real President of the United States pulling all the strings from my undisclosed location.
Well, at least he didn’t actually try to ride the thing around. He surely would have plowed into a group of workers or reporters or Secret Service men. He is so plowed on Jim Beam and Jack Daniels from morning to night that there’s no way he could have kept that hog on its wheels.
This is why the Americam people LOVE Dubya…Because he is a regular guy… just like they are. The quintessential American president.
August 16th, 2006 at 8:19 pmHipster.Doofus.
August 16th, 2006 at 8:21 pmSorry, not impressed…Look’s like a dumb boxer dog lifting his leg on a hydrant to me..bush is such a dumbass….Your right about Harleys Fortruth. Sad to add. We owned a 650 Kow back in 76 that was far superior. Always wanted a Beamer but can’t afford one now……Blessings
August 16th, 2006 at 8:22 pmAnd the rethugs could not get over Clinton and the saxophone! go figure.
August 16th, 2006 at 8:26 pm14- hahahahaha, you made a funny
Oh, you were not trying to joke.
my comment on the pic:
hahahahaha, what a dork
August 16th, 2006 at 8:27 pm#14.
I hate to burst your bubble, but you better change that statement to the past tense.
Please don’t let the facts and the truth intrude on your perception of how much the American people “love” George W. Bush, head of the Bush/Coulter Republican Party.
He is above 50% in four states.
Utah is hopeless at 59%.
Rhode Island is the most sane place in America with Chimpy clocking in at 22%.
http://www.surveyusa.com/50State2006/50StateBushApproval060815Net.htm
-GSD
August 16th, 2006 at 8:35 pmAll he does is make a fool of himself. But, it is better that he’s doing this instead of something destructive or giving “gifts” to special interests.
August 16th, 2006 at 8:38 pmShame on him for FARTING on a proud icon of American History, unlike George himself.
August 16th, 2006 at 8:46 pmGSD….Polls of presidential popularity at this point in a presidential term are meaningless. Dubya has been re-elected. Your chance at defeating him was in 2004 and your side lost. So, from now until January 2009, George W. Bush is in office, protecting the United States. continuing the War on Al Qaeda, and nominating conservative judges to the federal judiciary.
You folks can’t seem to defeat Dubya when it matters.
But good luck in 2008. We shall see what happens.
August 16th, 2006 at 8:47 pmComing to a theater-of-war near you: SLEAZY RIDER.
Watch as a C Average student is transformed into the Commander in Chief of the most powerful army in the world! See him defy authority as he is “missing in action” from the Air National Guard while our country is at War in Vietnam! Thrill to the spills he takes from his two-wheeled self-propelled cycle while in training for riding his first “hog!” You will laugh! You will cry! You will vomit in your popcorn bucket as SLEAZY RIDER sends young men and women to their death in the desert sands of Mesopotamia in his Holy Crusade to reclaim the middle east to its righteouse owners ensuring the supply of oil and gasoline for “hog” riders in America until Armegeddon, or his impeachment, whichever comes first!
Also staring “Dead-Eye” Dick. He does what we all would like to do: shoots a lawyer in the face, and gets the lawyer to apologize!
And featuring Karl “I was not indicted” Rove in a cameo appearance as Gepetto.
So, don’t miss SLEAZY RIDER! And remember, we’ll be watching you as you watch.
Disclaimer: this movie not suitable for all audiences. Some scenes might be objectionable to anyone with a sense of compassion. This movie is not yet rated, but if it were, the rating would be classified for national security reasons.
August 16th, 2006 at 8:53 pmsome people remain delusional, no matter how much medication the sanitarium gives them.
August 16th, 2006 at 8:55 pmEx: “Polls of presidential popularity at this point in a presidential term are meaningless.” – - Not when it drags your party down before midterm elections. The Democrats are poised to re-take Congress and life will become quite uncomfortable for BushCo if that happens.
August 16th, 2006 at 8:55 pmOnce an idiot, always an idiot.
August 16th, 2006 at 8:57 pm#16 Sharon
You shouldn’t insult our canine friends. Even a dumb boxer would know better than hike his leg on a new Harleywith the owner watching. I think the guy in the red shirt is looking for a stick. The Secret Service would probably take exception, however, “Makes no difference if he is a hound, you gotta quit kicking my boss around.” One more time, starting next February his hound ass will be kicked from DC to Kansas, or to Texas at least.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:04 pmThat’s much better than this:
http://beldar.blogs.com/beldarblog/2004/10/kerry_soccer.jpg
Can you imagine this dork as President?
August 16th, 2006 at 9:08 pmHe is above 50% in four states.
Utah is hopeless at 59%.
Rhode Island is the most sane place in America with Chimpy clocking in at 22%.
And yet, on the issue that counts, the issue that people really care about when they vote, Bush’s approval rating on handling terrorism is in the 50’s.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:10 pm#30, and yet, the pro-war candidate got 48% of the vote in a CT Democrat primary.
Iraq is part of the war on terror.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:20 pmAnd in 2000, when Bush lost by 1/2 million votes nationally, and several hundred in florida.
Gore lost by 500 votes in Florida. He’s still crabbing about it today.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:22 pmJim Webb SLAMS Bush-Cheney Middle East Policy
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/8/16/202043/842
Wed Aug 16, 2006 at 05:20:43 PM PDT
Today, Jim Webb delivered a major address on national security policy at the Knights of Columbus in Arlington. It was a very strong speech, very well received (two standing ovations). Here are some highlights (quotes as accurate as possible; official transcript pending):
“National security policy under the Bush-Cheney Administration is in total disarray.”
“Al Qaeda is stronger today than 5 years ago,” in large part “as a result of our occupation of Iraq.”
“Those who are leading us lack strategic vision.”
“The war in Lebanon today is a direct result of the Bush Administration’s complete failure of policy in the Middle East.” Meanwhile, China has been strengthening its ties “with
the exact Middle Eastern countries that pose challenges to the US.”
“The invasion of Iraq was a double strategic blunder” – a “diversion from…the war against international terrorism” and a quagmire that “has tied down our military in a costly occupation.”
“We should say clearly to the people of Iraq…that we have no plans for a long-term presence in that country.”
“Congress should make sure” that we don’t build permanent bases in Iraq “by banning any expenditure” for that purpose.
We need to conduct direct discussions with Syria, in part to “break Syria apart from its unnatural alliance with Iran.”
We need the Senate to fulfill its function as a check on the Presidency. When Senators take their oath of office, “it is to the Constitution, not to the Presidency.”
Unfortunately, Webb noted, he “can’t say that about George Allen.”
The Administration “planned from the very beginning to make war in Iraq.” They cynically used “fear and anger after 9/11″ in order to achieve that objective.
Our policy towards Russia has failed as well. “Looking into Putin’s eyes and seeing his soul” is not a policy.
continues…
August 16th, 2006 at 9:23 pmAnd what is Bush doing today? Being the clown that he really is
km4, no offense but James Webb is a jackass who has no chance of winning.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:24 pmOh, how I wish he was running for re-election. That pic is as good as the one of Dukakis in the tank or Kerry in the Snoopy suit.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:24 pm#34 no offense but a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:26 pmWebb is going to kick Allen’s ass six ways to Sunday !
Ann, the funny thing is that Bush is a regular guy and he could pass as a Harley rider.
John Kerry, Al Gore, or Hillary Clinton could never pull it off. They look like elitist snobs.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:27 pmkm4, the lastest polling has Webb down 10 points.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:27 pmThey’ve got him on the wrong bike.
They should have put him on a Knucklehead.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:29 pmGore lost by 500 votes in Florida. He’s still crabbing about it today.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 9:22 pm
Don’t forget, Mr. Big, that Gore also lost Bill Clinton’s home state of Arkansas and, in the ULTIMATE humiliation, lost his home state of Tennessee….
Heh!
August 16th, 2006 at 9:29 pmMcCAIN in 2008!
That would work for me.
But I’m a Rudy guy myself.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:30 pmin the ULTIMATE humiliation, lost his home state of Tennessee….
Yeah, if he could only have won his freakin home state, he wouldn’t have had to turn the country into a banana republic with his Sore Loserman recounting and re-recounting.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:31 pmAhhhh #39 check this out.
Former president to help Webb in Senate campaign
Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Jim Webb has snared the big guy — former President Bill Clinton — to help him raise money for his Senate race. A spokeswoman said the time and place for Clinton’s visit have yet to be worked out. Webb is running against U.S. Sen. George Allen, a Republican, who ended the June 30 fundraising period with a $6 million edge over Webb.
Expect that $6 million edge to dry up pretty quickly with Clinton on the case and George Felix Allen Junior’s explanations – and those of his Republican “friends” – rolling out by the hour.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/16/171011/759
August 16th, 2006 at 9:32 pmMr. Big is compensating for something.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:34 pmAnn, the funny thing is that Bush is a regular guy .
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 9:27 pm
Regular?
Like a bowel movement maybe.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:34 pmhe could pass as a Harley rider.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 9:27 pm
Then why is he holding on with the wrong hand?
August 16th, 2006 at 9:35 pmMr Big comes across as a very lame Karl Rove operative
August 16th, 2006 at 9:35 pm#44, pretty much every candidate that Bill Clinton campaigned for has gone down. They don’t win.
Lieberman was the lastest example.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:36 pmWhy are liberals so committed to defeating Bush? Give it a rest already!
August 16th, 2006 at 9:36 pm#46, Bush is a regular guy just like middle America. They elected him twice in a sea of red. Just look at the election map. The heart of the country is red.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:37 pmAnd Larry is obviously Mr Big’s lame ass assistant
August 16th, 2006 at 9:37 pm#42…Mr. Big…I would have NO problem with Rudy in 2008. In fact, it is a tough call between Rudy and McCain. As a native New Yorker, I certainly remember how Rudy saved NYC in the 1990s (especially after the disastrous and incompetent Dinkins years). And, of course, who can forget Rudy’s brilliant and inspirational leadership in New York City (and indeed for the nation) after the brutal and savage Islamist terrorist attack of 9/11/2001?
August 16th, 2006 at 9:38 pmWhy are liberals so committed to defeating Bush? Give it a rest already!
Their agenda if they win back congress will be the impeachment of Bush. That’s what they will focus on in the next two years. That’s all they got.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:39 pm“National security policy under the Bush-Cheney Administration is in total disarray.”
August 16th, 2006 at 9:40 pm- Jim Webb
“Al Qaeda is stronger today than 5 years ago,” in large part “as a result of our occupation of Iraq.”
August 16th, 2006 at 9:40 pm- Jim Webb
#26 – Yay, Clyde, you’re back!
August 16th, 2006 at 9:40 pm“The war in Lebanon is a direct result of the Bush Administration’s complete failure of policy in the Middle East.” Meanwhile, China has been strengthening its ties “with
August 16th, 2006 at 9:41 pmthe exact Middle Eastern countries that pose challenges to the US.”
- Jim Webb
By the end of the week, he’ll be pimping his old lady out to the rest of his crew while he goes off to sell meth in seedy bars.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:41 pm“The invasion of Iraq was a double strategic blunder” – a “diversion from…the war against international terrorism” and a quagmire that “has tied down our military in a costly occupation.”
August 16th, 2006 at 9:42 pm- Jim Webb
“Al Qaeda is stronger today than 5 years ago,â€
LOL. 2/3 of their leadership has been captured or killed.
James Webb is a laughriot. And he is down by 10 points to Allen in the lastest polling.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:42 pmI’m reminded of the scene in Pee Wee’s Big Adventure where the bikers sent peewee off on his own harley after the “tequila” scene. #37, Al Gore and John Kerry strike me as people who are capable of enjoying the simple pleasures of life enough to actually ride a hog on weekends. “The haves and the have mores…Some people call you the elite, I call you my base”. Bush is the bigeest spoiled ass elitist snob to ever set foot in the White House, bar none.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:42 pmWhy are liberals so committed to defeating Bush?
Comment by Larry — August 16, 2006 @ 9:36 pm
We’re just “staying the course” slappy.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:43 pm“We should say clearly to the people of Iraq…that we have no plans for a long-term presence in that country.”
August 16th, 2006 at 9:43 pm- Jim Webb
If this is a lame attempt to make Bush look “cool” and “with it” and “down with today’s kids”, it fails, just like his entire presidency.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:43 pmman, would I like to see bush ride into STURGIS!
August 16th, 2006 at 9:44 pmwhy are republicans so committed to raping the constitution? give it a rest already!
August 16th, 2006 at 9:44 pmI’m reminded of the scene in Pee Wee’s Big Adventure where the bikers sent peewee off on his own harley after the “tequila†scene.
Comment by you got islamofascism in my christofascism — August 16, 2006 @ 9:42 pm
Yea but PeeWee knew how to ride his.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:44 pmAl Gore and John Kerry strike me as people who are capable of enjoying the simple pleasures of life enough to actually ride a hog on weekends.
And don’t forget Hillary too. The three of them should get together and ride hogs together. They would tilt their noses up to average Americans as they went by. Kerry would need a hog for his butler to ride.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:45 pmmeanwhile, republicans continue to crap on the constitution and wipe with the bill of rights.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:49 pmKerry would need a hog for his butler to ride.
Comment by Mr. Whig — August 16, 2006 @ 9:45 pm
Yes. It is sad that Mr Bush was so…well, unfortunate in his business dealings.
Maybe he should’ve married into wealth like Kerry did, instead of trying to make his wealth off the backs of dead Americans, huh?
August 16th, 2006 at 9:52 pmMaybe he should’ve married into wealth like Kerry did
Kerry did that twice.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:54 pmThis guy is such a arrogant show off. Everything, from that smirk to his rodeo walk.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:54 pmTheir is nothing about him that excudes Presidential qualities. And the only character he posses is Yosemite Sam’s.
And, of course, who can forget Rudy’s brilliant and inspirational leadership in New York City (and indeed for the nation) after the brutal and savage Islamist terrorist attack of 9/11/2001?
Comment by exley — August 16, 2006 @ 9:38 pm
exley, you should be selling used cars. Do you gag when you post stuff like that or laugh? You sound like Bagdad Bob. So what is your day job? And, BTW you have not posted anything about any pertient UN resolutions lately –what gives??
August 16th, 2006 at 9:55 pmOf course its not all bad. I imagine theres a lucrative career waiting for Mr Bush when hes done being President, selling portable fallout shelters northern Idaho.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:56 pmKerry did that twice.
Comment by Mr. Whig — August 16, 2006 @ 9:54 pm
Good point.
He’s twice as smart as Bush.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:57 pmJoefriday, Rudy did a great job after 9/11, putting the nation at ease. He’ll be a great president, who will continue this war on Terror.
The liberals are so obsessed with polls, here’s one for you. Rudy has the highest favaorable rating of any political figure in the country.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:58 pmYou wanna talk elitist? I guess I can’t help picturing Kerry windsurfing on vacation. At least Bush is posing with a Harley, something that most middleclass Americans can identify with.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:58 pmMaybe he should’ve married into wealth like Kerry did
Kerry did that twice.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 9:54 pm
Eat your heart out. I guess the real Mr. Big married well. He dosen’t have to spend his nights and days posting made-up rethug bull $hit does he?
August 16th, 2006 at 9:58 pmHe’s twice as smart as Bush.
Actually, according to the New York Times, Bush’s IQ is higher than Kerry’s.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:58 pmthe difference – a picture is worth a thousand words.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:59 pmGW Bush + a Harley= 2 leaky noise machines
August 16th, 2006 at 9:59 pmJoeFriday…Are you saying that Giuliano was not a brillaint and brave leader during and after the Islamist terrorist attack of 9/11/2001? Or are you denying there WAS an Islamist terrorist attack on NYC on 9/11/2001?
I am unsure as to what part of my posting you are criticizing. Please clarify and I will be more than happy to respond. Thank you.
August 16th, 2006 at 9:59 pmwhy do republicans just make crap up?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:00 pmAt least Bush is posing with a Harley
Comment by Mary — August 16, 2006 @ 9:58 pm
Posing being the key point.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:01 pmSee, Kerry could actually “ride” his.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:01 pm#57 Zooey
Trueblue set me up with her beautician and I came back disguised as a Las Vegas Show Girl–feathers and all. My sharp tongue (fingernails) haven’t changed, however.
Thanks for missing me and thanks for the welcome back!
August 16th, 2006 at 10:01 pmGW Bush + a Harley=
A regular guy. Something that Kerry or Al Gore could never pull off.
Kerry looks at home in Aspen, or at Nantucket, not in middle America. He seems to be a snobbish elite.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:02 pm#77…Good point, Mr. Big. You are, of course, correct. As I said, I would have zero problem supporting Mr. Giuiliani for president. My only concern with Rudy is that no perosn has ever gone directly from the mayoralty of NYC to the White House…But 9/11 was such a unique event in American history, in terms of the scope of its horror and brutality by the Islamists, Rudy may be able to leap that historical hurdle.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:03 pmBush’s IQ is higher than Kerry’s.
Comment by Mr. Twig — August 16, 2006 @ 9:58 pm
I think you mean they said Bush is “higher” than Kerry.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:03 pmthe terrorist are islamist?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:03 pmThe liberals are so obsessed with polls, here’s one for you. Rudy has the highest favaorable rating of any political figure in the country.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 9:58 pm
Who is obsessed with polls? and who cares?–He will not make it to the General. Not that I care–seems like a nice chap to me. I just don’t see him and I at a bar-b-q and drinking beer or going to a NASCAR event in my pickem-up. BUt, who knows-stranger things have happened.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:04 pm#91…No, the terrorists who called nearly 3,000 innocent people on 9/11/ 2001 were actually Quakers.
Of course they were Islamists!
August 16th, 2006 at 10:06 pmHe seems to be a snobbish elite.
Comment by Mr. Fig — August 16, 2006 @ 10:02 pm
Yes.
We sure would rather have some dumb dirt farmer run the nation.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:06 pm#89, I like McCain too. It would be a toss up for me too. But I just think that Rudy has the executive experience and the crisis leadership that is so needed in a president. To handle another 9/11, if need be. But if McCain gets the nod, I would support him just as strongly. He’s a real American war hero (unlike Kerry spending 4 months in Nam.) lol
August 16th, 2006 at 10:07 pm#88 Mr. Big
If that ass posed on the Harley looks like a biker (regular gay) to you please come visit me in Laughlin, NV next April. There will be about 50,000 real bikers here that would be happy as a dead pig under a new wagon to see a new sweetie like you. There are a couple of other places you might like also in New Mexico and South Dakota where you would really find out about the bad lands.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:07 pmare you sure? if so, why does the homeland security classify the quakers as a terroristic threat?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:09 pm#77…Good point, Mr. Big. You are, of course, correctexley, are you a kiss ass or what? Just re-read your posts man. Have you no dignity? I’ll answer your other querry shortly. But, for now–get off your knees man. I got it–Ed McMahn and Johnny Carson..
August 16th, 2006 at 10:10 pmHe’s a real American war hero (unlike Kerry spending 4 months in Nam.)
Comment by Mr. Wig — August 16, 2006 @ 10:07 pm
Or Bush, spending 0 months in Nam.
LoL.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:10 pmWHO CARES!
August 16th, 2006 at 10:10 pm#87 – Trueblue set me up with her beautician and I came back disguised as a Las Vegas Show Girl–feathers and all. My sharp tongue (fingernails) haven’t changed, however.
Comment by Clyde the Ripper
Damn, Clyde, I’d pay good money to see that!
August 16th, 2006 at 10:10 pmi think more like sybil
August 16th, 2006 at 10:11 pmso, why does the homeland security classify the quakers as a terroristic threat?
Comment by nym@alias.net — August 16, 2006 @ 10:09 pm
Because they believe in being nice to people.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:11 pm#95…Agreed, Mr. Big. McCain is a true American hero, spending years inside a Viet Namese prison, even though he had the opportunity to go home at any time. As the son of a Navy admiral, the communists were eager to use McCain as a propaganda tool. But, with typical Americam bravery and self-sacrifice, McCain refused their offer to let him go home early. He adhered to the Navy’s tradition of “First captured, first released.”
If you ever want to read just how brave and self-sacrificing McCain was, I recommend “The Nightingale’s Song,” one of the best worls of non-fiction I have ever read (Also discussed Jim Webb a great deal).
August 16th, 2006 at 10:12 pm#96, Harleys are very popular right now with baby boomers. These people identify with Bush, and they elected him twice as president. Both Gore and Kerry lost the votes of middle America.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:12 pmBNF, the movie deal is priceless…..Worfeus, the BM is a riot..That’s bush alright a little shit. I apolagize to you Clyde and boxers everywhere….BTW my puppy/ black lab is 1 year old and over 100 pounds now.. I feed my family well…….Blessings
August 16th, 2006 at 10:13 pmOr Bush, spending 0 months in Nam.
Bush never made his service as a reason people should vote for him. Kerry did with his 4 month stint there.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:14 pmHarleys are very popular right now with baby boomers.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 10:12 pm
Oh well then that makes his 200 blunders all better.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:14 pmHe’s a real American war hero (unlike Kerry spending 4 months in Nam.) lol
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 10:07 pm
As compared to GWB and Cheny’s time in Nam (of course, yours and exleys) And I foregot all the time Rudy was in Nam?? How stupid of me.. You two Farts got me on that one. You two are slicker than $hit. That stuff about all you and your guys in Nam blew me away. Good work. I am humbled. I never saw that one coming.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:16 pmTo my fellow “Progressives” – I’m wondering where we are going to hold our ceremony when Fidel finally passes?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:16 pmBush never made his service as a reason people should vote for him.
Comment by Mr. Pig — August 16, 2006 @ 10:14 pm
No?
Then what was he doing in a Flight suit on an Aircraft carrier?
Selling planes?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:16 pmWho is obsessed with polls? and who cares?–
Liberals. And especially Bill Clinton. He couldn’t make any decison as president without consulting a poll. He was paralyzed. He even took a poll where to vacation.
Of course, the only polling that matters were on election day, Bush’s win in 2000 and 2004. And the Republicans winning congress in 2000, 2002, and 2004.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:16 pmdid someone say vacation?
bush is on vacation again now, too.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:17 pmThen what was he doing in a Flight suit on an Aircraft carrier?
Making liberals go insane. If you ever want to see a liberal go crazy, show them a picture of Bush in the flight suit.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:18 pmisn’t impersonating an a govt agent a felony?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:20 pmbush is on vacation again now, too.
Comment by nym@alias.net — August 16, 2006 @ 10:17 pm
Everyone describes Bush as Hitler. But I see him more like Nero.
Singing while Rome burns.
(Nero actually was a vocalist, and he was singing, not playing the violin during the great fire).
August 16th, 2006 at 10:20 pmIf you ever want to read just how brave and self-sacrificing McCain was, I recommend “The Nightingale’s Song,â€
I’ll check it out. Thanks. I did read Mccain’s two lastest books, Faith of our fathers and Character is Destiny. Two good reads.
How about Mccain-Guiliani ‘08 (or the other way around), would that be great or what?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:21 pmIf you ever want to read just how brave and self-sacrificing McCain was, I recommend “The Nightingale’s Song,†one of the best worls of non-fiction I have ever read (Also discussed Jim Webb a great deal).
Comment by exley — August 16, 2006 @ 10:12 pm
And the best part not one democrat ever was brave or served his country. Thank god for men like Mr.Big and exley. and I forgot gunner Rudy. You know you two should find a room.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:21 pmMaking liberals go insane.
Comment by Mr. Pig — August 16, 2006 @ 10:18 pm
Ahh.
So thats what it was.
Well, I knew it was something like that. Cause it certainly didn’t have anything to do with the War in Iraq.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:21 pmI’ll check it out. Thanks.
Comment by Mr. Jig — August 16, 2006 @ 10:21 pm
You two should get a room.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:22 pm#117…McCain-Giuliani (or vice versa) would be well-nigh unstoppable in 2008. That is the Democrats’ nightmare ticket. Imagine those two heroes (McCain and Giuliani) against a Hillary-Feingold ticket…Could be the first 50-state sweep in U.S. presidential electoral history.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:23 pm#69, Why would the presence of a butler bother you? It’s your party that’s doing everything it possibly can to give Paris Hilton more tax breaks. You fight for a guy who shills for the rich every chance he gets.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:24 pmBush’s win in 2000 and 2004. And the Republicans winning congress in 2000, 2002, and 2004.
Comment by Mr. Whig — August 16, 2006 @ 10:16 pm
Thats it.
Hang onto those memories.
They’ll get you through the dark times to come.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:25 pmMaking liberals go insane. If you ever want to see a liberal go crazy, show them a picture of Bush in the flight suit.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 10:18 pm
No, that makes us crack up. Really, your wrong. I love it. I think Rudy should run that as his main campaign ad.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:25 pmEx, the American people are behind Bush alright, with tar & feathers, nooses, torches,-you get the picture.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:25 pmthe republicans here seem to be behind george, but it seems to be ahole kind of behind.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:28 pmYou’re right JoeFriday. Everytime I need a good bellylaugh, I open my jpg of Bush standing in a flight suit, in front of a giant banner, that reads, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
:D
Mission Accomplished.
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I think he meant the mission of making suckers out of half the country.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:28 pm#69, Why would the presence of a butler bother you?
It wouldn’t bother me. I’m just pointing out that Kerry would need a hog for his butler too, since he brings him everywhere.
But I don’t think having a bulter plays too well with middle America. It could be why Kerry lost. Voters really don’t like snobs.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:29 pmWell, its all good.
I look at it this way.
In a few years we can go back to normal stuff, like science, technology, research and medicine.
You know.
All the stuff that makes a republicans head hurts.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:30 pmThats assuming of course that the millions of enemies Bush managed to make in his reign as tyrant and overlord of the universe will let us.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:31 pmThat is the Democrats’ nightmare ticket. Imagine those two heroes (McCain and Giuliani) against a Hillary-Feingold ticket…
That would approach Reagan’s numbers in ‘84, in my opinion.
But could the Democrat party suffer another major defeat? They haven’t been taking it too well lately. The liberals are angry as hell.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:32 pmVoters really don’t like snobs.
Comment by Mr. Pig — August 16, 2006 @ 10:29 pm
Well apparently they luv inbreds.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:32 pmThe liberals are angry as hell.
Comment by Mr. Pig — August 16, 2006 @ 10:32 pm
Which would explain why the repuggies are scared as hell.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:33 pm#117…McCain-Giuliani (or vice versa) would be well-nigh unstoppable in 2008. That is the Democrats’ nightmare ticket. Imagine those two heroes (McCain and Giuliani) against a Hillary-Feingold ticket…Could be the first 50-state sweep in U.S. presidential electoral history.
Comment by exley — August 16, 2006 @ 10:23 pm
exlely, do you masturbate over that thought? like you and Mr. Big?? together maybe–even better?? Think about it guy-don’t reject this to quick. I think I would rent the video ( normally it would be at least three chicks} but, you and Mr.Big??.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:34 pmbush was elected twice?
no, wasn’t he appointed the first time around?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:34 pmIn the biker world we have a term RUB which stands for Righ Urban Biker but Bush is a RIWB, real idiot wanna be……and could no more ride that than he can say NUCLEAR
August 16th, 2006 at 10:40 pmbush was elected twice?
no, wasn’t he appointed the first time around?
Comment by nym@alias.net — August 16, 2006 @ 10:34 pm
Well the first time around more Americans voted for Al Gore than Mr Bush, hands down. Thats a fact. Mr Bush with the help of the Flordia RNC stole the election and had themselves imposed into office.
His second election wasn’t much better. For the FIRST time in American history the country did a Presidential election electroniclly, and in most states there was no paper trail to check the ballots.
Oddly enough, in those states, huge Democratic areas voted overwhelmingly for Mr Bush.
Go figure.
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August 16th, 2006 at 10:40 pmbush was elected twice?
no, wasn’t he appointed the first time around?
Gore couldn’t even win his homestate.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:40 pmYou’re probably right on that point #128; probably would’nt play very well for Billy Buckley or old Babs either. Let’s have a butler tally and decide this all right now… Wait a minute…this just in from England…. “Bush is crap”, says Deputy PM John Prescott… I say, that’s a sticky wicket, eh, wot?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:41 pmI can’t believe these idiots who think Bush is some “regular dude.”
Bush and his corporate supremacist friends think they are better than the average American.
That’s why their policies are hurting every American who wasn’t born in some uppity rich family like they were.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:42 pmAnd don’t forget the Diebold voting computer systems were PROVEN to be open to simple hacks.
Yet the repugs acted like they got a mandate.
But like I said, its all good. Cause it’ll be a cold day in hell before this country trusts another one of these backwoods inbred hillbillies to run anything larger than a taco stand.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:43 pmgreat, i ask about george and someone says al – go figure? some twisted lenses there?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:43 pm“well-nigh unstoppable”
wha?…who talks like that?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:43 pmyou guys have day jobs at Hallmark?
or you write for catalogs, or book jackets?…
You’re probably right on that point #128; probably would’nt play very well for Billy Buckley or old Babs either.
True. Bush Sr. lost in part because he was seen as out of touch, and the fact that Ross Perot was a spoiler.
But the current Bush doesn’t have that problem. He’s a plain spoken guy, and most people identify with him, rather than snobs like Al Gore or John Kerry.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:44 pmno, not a taco stand!
i like tacos, dont screw that up too.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:45 pmGWB is not a regular guy. It’s an IMAGE, bought and paid for. It’s hard to maintain that sort of thing for very long, hence the goofy pics.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:45 pmBush didn’t “win” anything.
He got in both times on extremely questionable technicalites, and in any “real” democracy, this would never have been allowed to stand.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:45 pmrepublicans have a fake majority
August 16th, 2006 at 10:45 pmgreat, i ask about george and someone says al – go figure?
If Gore could have just won his homestate, liberals now would not have to concoct bogus stories about stolen elections or trick die bold machines. Even the voters where he was from, TN, gave up on him.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:46 pmHe’s a plain spoken guy,
Comment by Mr. Pig — August 16, 2006 @ 10:44 pm
Oh is that what you call it?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:47 pmrepublicans have such big heads they run around thinking they are so much better than everyone. what a bunch of corporate supremacist snobs. they think regular people are just trash. they deserve every bit of ass-kicking they’re gonna get in November.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:47 pmwatch the republican party and all its schemes go down the toilet this november. its about time.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:48 pmCllect ‘em all! This will look great next to the guitar playin’ cake eatin’ hog carvin’ Nero impersonations we already have. What could be more perfect than a president fiddling all the time? After all, things are burning all the time…
August 16th, 2006 at 10:48 pmGore couldn’t even win his homestate.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 10:40 pm
So there! Did GWB win his home state–It is not Texas. Think about that Mr.Big? So have you an exley worked anything out yet?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:48 pmCause honestly I thought he had Tourettes or something…
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August 16th, 2006 at 10:48 pmagain, pointing out that i ask about george and someone says al, twice in a row ?
wasn’t george appointed by the courts?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:49 pmrepublicans have a fake majority
Comment by D. Tree
hell they have a fake adult playing pResident…and seem to have no problem with that.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:49 pmGreat posts…Zooey the Sturgess run would be worth the trip to see dumbass on a hog. My bet dip shit couldent make it out of the first parking lot with out dumping it… All hat no cattle, brush cutter on a abandonded pig farm just doesn’t get it….You guy’s and gal’s are so funny tonight.
Say Mr. Big, just what are the IQ numbers of bush and Kerry and where did you get the info.? We the inquiring minds would like to know………Blessings All
August 16th, 2006 at 10:49 pmCause honestly I thought he had Tourettes or something…
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Comment by WORFEUS — August 16, 2006 @ 10:48 pm
That would be Chaney.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:50 pmMSNBC show debates if ‘Bush is an idiot’
The consensus is an that he is an absolute Bozo just like looks on this Harley.
PS – To Mr Big and the other Bush and GOP apologists – you are simpletons just like your leader !
August 16th, 2006 at 10:50 pmwasn’t george appointed by the courts?
Comment by nym@alias.net — August 16, 2006 @ 10:49 pm
More like “annointed”.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:51 pmthe funny thing is that once these crooks are booted, it’s gonna be a loooong time before they ever get enough credibility to get in power again.
the american people can tell a scam when they see it, and when you screw them over this bad they’ll remember you for a long long time.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:52 pmTrust me..that pic of Bush on a harley will play about as well as Dukakis in a tank……
August 16th, 2006 at 10:53 pmSay Mr. Big, just what are the IQ numbers of bush and Kerry and where did you get the info.?
The New York Times.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:53 pmI may be wrong but, it seems Mr.big? and exley have found a room. Maybe later they will be nice.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:54 pmHOW ABOUT A FULL MASK NEXT SO WE CAN SEE YOUR FACE ON TV AND NOT WRETCH?? HE LOOKS LIKE A TOTAL FOOL.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:54 pmthe american people can tell a scam when they see it, and when you screw them over this bad they’ll remember you for a long long time.
i thought that about the Nixon administration, but there’s rumsfeld. kinda unfortunate.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:54 pmTrust me..that pic of Bush on a harley will play about as well as Dukakis in a tank……
Dukakis looked like an ass in that tank, because he just didn’t fit.
Bush is a regular dude. He looks like he belongs riding a hog.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:55 pmdoesn’t bush ride hogs on his ranch during vacation?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:56 pmall these guys, rumsfeld, cheney, and the neo-republicans are leftovers from some jackass administration… the last gasp of a bunch of fakes.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:57 pmBush is a regular dude. He looks like he belongs riding a hog.
Comment by Mr. Pig — August 16, 2006 @ 10:55 pm
Yeah.
The 4 legged kind.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:57 pmBush is a regular guy. He vacations on his ranch. John Kerry vacations in Nantucket and windsurfs with his butler.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:58 pmSay Mr. Big, just what are the IQ numbers of bush and Kerry and where did you get the info.?
The New York Times.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 10:53 pm
So post the results. that is if you have time-you know with exley and all that stuff. I’m a thinking GWB IQ=165 and Kerry=82 can’t wait for Mr.big? to post the link to that data.
August 16th, 2006 at 10:59 pmBTW Mr. Big those numbers were “guesses” not actual results…….but repugs are good at guesses theyt claim as FACT eh son?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:59 pmSo pulling weeds is somehow superior to windsurfing?
August 16th, 2006 at 10:59 pmwell, in texas, regular guys don’t have a ranch.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:00 pmBTW Mr. Big those numbers were “guesses†not actual results
Source?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:00 pmBush is a regular dude. He looks like he belongs riding a hog.
Comment by Mr. Big
SDon go get the idiot and bring him with out his protection squad to the next rally…and see how regular the Foole is…..and Most of the bro’s I have emailed are laughing at that pic, it is one of the best jokes we have today
August 16th, 2006 at 11:01 pmHe doesn’t need a source Einstein.
You’re the one tossing out statistics.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:01 pm#176, in Texas regular guys don’t windsurf.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:02 pmBush is a regular guy. He vacations on his ranch. John Kerry vacations in Nantucket and windsurfs with his butler.
Comment by Mr. Big
Yea that ranch with NO cattle….or horses…but then again Pickles did say he likes milking bulls……………………………………………LOL
August 16th, 2006 at 11:03 pmwell, in texas, regular guys don’t have a ranch.
Comment by nym@alias.net — August 16, 2006 @ 11:00 pm
Actually I am not sure a dustbowl counts as a ranch.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:03 pmthere are alot of people in galveston and padre isle that windsurf.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:04 pmBush is a regular guy. He vacations on his ranch. John Kerry vacations in Nantucket and windsurfs with his butler.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 10:58 pm
Yes, and GWB was born in Texas and never went up north(Damn Yankees) and went to school in a good old texas college.( no pointed headed elite schools for him) the chosen one. He would not be caught dead in a college that Clinton, Kerry or his dad went to. Mr,Big? you are as smart as a human can be sir.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:04 pmregular guys don’t windsurf.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:02 pm
No.
Just the ones with skills.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:04 pmSDon go get the idiot and bring him with out his protection squad to the next rally
Liberals hate Bush. They’re angry.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:04 pm#138, I’ll stipulate, not having researched it, that Gore lost his home state. I don’t know why he strikes you as a snob, he talks a little funny but so does W… at least he smiles instead of sneering… but whether or not he carried Tennessee, he carried the country in the popular vote and that meant nothing to the supremes, or the Reps. Clinton won the pop vote in 92, 43 to 37.4 and was called illegitimate (whine whine) by the opposition.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:04 pmRegular guys don’t have their daddy bail them out every time they screw up either little one
August 16th, 2006 at 11:06 pmLiberals hate Bush. They’re angry.
Comment by Mr. Dig — August 16, 2006 @ 11:04 pm
Are you sure you’re not a talking point bot?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:06 pmFunny most bikers are not liberals foole
August 16th, 2006 at 11:07 pmThe tiny one seems to be overcompesating for “something” little
August 16th, 2006 at 11:07 pmdo republicans hate blowjobs?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:08 pm192. seems they like children….especially little boys.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:09 pmthe bush family is from the northeast just like a lot of other people. who thinks they are actually from texas? check the fake texas accent… Bush and all his rich freinds are nothing more than a bunch of wanna be’s.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:09 pmLike I said earlier. They should have put Bush on the Knucklehead.
Then they’d have a picture of a knucklehead on a Knucklehead.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:09 pmBush is a regular guy. He vacations on his ranch. John Kerry vacations in Nantucket and windsurfs with his butler.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 10:58 pm
Ya, and GWB would never go to that “KENNY_BUCK_PORT” place I think them damn Kennedys lived there. Mr.Big/ once again-so -so- damn smart. wHERE DOES IT COME FROM? $hit no one could be smarter than you sir. Have you an exley got that room yet?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:09 pmbut whether or not he carried Tennessee, he carried the country in the popular vote
Doesn’t matter. Bush didn’t run a popular vote campaign. He ran an electoral college campaign. Still if Gore had won his homestate, liberals would not have to resort to making up wild allegations about Bush being appointed, or trick voting machines. But the people who knew Gore best, the people from his own home state, did not vote for him.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:09 pmdo republicans hate blowjobs?
Comment by nym@alias.net — August 16, 2006 @ 11:08 pm
No.
They just hate not getting them.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:09 pmMost larger guys I know end up with the nike of tiny…and Mr. Big usually turns out to be 4 feet tall..or compensating for something small somewhere
August 16th, 2006 at 11:10 pmall these frikkin republicans care about it getting over on the american people. they think they are better than everyone so it doesn’t matter if they screw america up… afterall, they got what they wanted: a bunch of our tax dollars.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:10 pmBut the people who knew Gore best, the people from his own home state, did not vote for him.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:09 pm
Gee, you seem sorta obsessed with talking about Gore.
Guess your boys not much to talk about these days, huh?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:11 pmso george was appointed by the courts?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:12 pmFunny most bikers are not liberals foole
Yeah, they are regular people, middle America. They are the ones who elected Bush twice, and a Republican congress in the past three election cycles.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:12 pmall that matters now is that america regrerts giving george bush & dick cheney a chance… the republicans are never going to recover from this one.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:13 pmno one trusts republicans anymore… their just dishonest and they know we can ll see that now. that’s why their tactics are getting more desperate.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:14 pmdo republicans hate blowjobs?
ok i get it, they hate not getting them by boys.
so that explains gannon.
well, why do republicans hate gay people then?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:14 pmpast three election cycles.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:12 pm
Bikers.
Election “cycles”
Now thats funny.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:15 pmYeah, they are regular people, middle America. They are the ones who elected Bush twice, and a Republican congress in the past three election cycles.
Comment by Mr. Big
well you got quite a few laughing at the idiot and you foole
August 16th, 2006 at 11:15 pmall that matters now is that america regrerts giving george bush & dick cheney a chance…
Except when it comes to protecting the country from terrorism. Then Bush’s approval is in the 50’s on that one.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:15 pmwell, why do republicans hate gay people then?
Comment by nym@alias.net
Because they hate the competition of screwing the public up the a$$
August 16th, 2006 at 11:16 pmwell you got quite a few laughing at the idiot and you foole
I doubt you are friends with any conservatives.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:17 pmrepuiblicans did control the house, senate, and executive branch when the twin towers fell.
why didn’t republicans keep america safe?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:17 pmExcept when it comes to protecting the country from terrorism. Then Bush’s approval is in the 50’s on that one.
Comment by Mr. Big
the 50’s well he is a C student so 50% looks real good to him….to bad it was 90% and has fallen since his bullhorn moment
August 16th, 2006 at 11:18 pmrepublicans are fakes and everyone knows it now.
the voters who supported them will never forgive bush & his fake religious friends for manipulating them.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:18 pmBecause they hate the competition of screwing the public up the a$$
Actually it is the liberal Dems who want to screw the public, with their tax hikes.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:18 pmfifty percent of a fake majority is nothing to brag about. americans don’t trust republicans anymore, and there is nothing the GOP can to to earn that trust back.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:20 pmI doubt you are friends with any conservatives.
Comment by Mr. Big
Son I have ridden for over 25 years…and a lot of people reallyt have little good to say about the idiot, a couple of days ago at the VA I couyld find NO vets who would defend the idiot but a lot who did not want him around any longer
August 16th, 2006 at 11:20 pmdont we have the largest national debt in history under republican leadership? eventually someone will have to pay the taxes on that, right?
aren’t republicans supposed to be conservative?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:20 pmActually it is the liberal Dems who want to screw the public, with their tax hikes.
Comment by Porky Pig — August 16, 2006 @ 11:18 pm
As opposed to Mr Bush taking the tax surlus he was handed, dividing it up into tiny insignificant amounts, and then handing it out to everyone till it was all gone?
God forbid we pay our own way, huh?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:20 pmBTE biggy boy …you serve?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:20 pmrepuiblicans did control the house, senate, and executive branch when the twin towers fell.
why didn’t republicans keep america safe?
You can’t blame 9/11 on Bush.
The Republicans have a totally different approach to terrorsim than the Dems do. The Repubs actually think it’s a problem and are doing something about it. Dems act like it doesn’t even exist.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:21 pmrepublicans blew it.
and they are never going to recover from the bruising the voters are about to give them.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:21 pmAnd the IQ numbers are what.? Mr. Big…….We are waiting…..And bush has been on vacation over 365 day’s during his administration….Let’s hope he isn’t going to make up the time missed……His next vacation starts when.?…..In Montana the real farmers would laugh at the Rancher or Farmer tag bush has tried to portray…Bet they are laughing right now…..None of them are from Maine either…..Real ranchers all over the country have real working farms…..On my little outfit I used the tracter to pull scrub and stumps…Hay, scooter (bush) what are you raising.? Rattlesnakes, maybe.?……
August 16th, 2006 at 11:21 pmMy aunt and uncle were both bikers and they’re Democrats.
By the way, the Chimperor Boy King reminds me of the President played by Robert Culp in the film “The Pelican Brief”: arrogant, dumb, and clueless.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:21 pmFunny most bikers are not liberals foole
Yeah, they are regular people, middle America. They are the ones who elected Bush twice, and a Republican congress in the past three election cycles.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:12 pm
and the Hells angels-Where do they fit in? Why haven’t you found a room yet? So, most middle Americans own a motorcycle?? Where do you and exley dig/make this $hit up? Are you two on crack or something?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:21 pmCaption contest–Damn, pardon that fart!
August 16th, 2006 at 11:22 pmthe only reason bush & cheney brag so loud is because they know they were caught asleep at the wheel on 9/11.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:23 pmThe Republicans have a totally different approach to terrorsim than the Dems do.
Comment by Mr.Porkbarrel Pig — August 16, 2006 @ 11:21 pm
They sure do.
Dems believe in actually going after the terrorists.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:23 pmi didn’t say bush, i said republicans that controlled the house, senate, and executive branch.
so why didn’t the republicans keep america safe?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:23 pmdont we have the largest national debt in history under republican leadership?
As a % of GDP, no.
The deficit actually came in lower than projected by the CBO.
Tax cuts are stimulating economic growth.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:24 pmCaption contest
Where are the peddles?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:24 pmI would LOVE to see bush in a roomful of BIKERS!
August 16th, 2006 at 11:24 pmCaption contest:
Someone take this kickstarter out of my ass…
August 16th, 2006 at 11:25 pmbush has made the government so big it doesn’t matter that he gave us a couple hundred bucks back in taxes this year… you get charged double for it in the end anyway.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:25 pmAnd the IQ numbers are what.? Mr. Big…….We are waiting
Bush-bashers, it may be the most infuriating revelation yet from the military records of the two presidential candidates: the young George W. Bush probably had a higher I.Q. than did the young John Kerry.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/24/politics/campaign/24points.html?ex=1256356800&en=50a1bcbb16e7cf21&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland
August 16th, 2006 at 11:25 pmWhere are the peddles?
Comment by clif — August 16, 2006 @ 11:24 pm
LMAO, now THATS funny.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:26 pmWhether Bush ran a popular vote campaign or not, the majority of Americans voted for Gore. And justice O’connor choked on her cocktail weenie when she heard the news ( how’s that blue/red butler tally going?) But what’s the point? W made a lot of promises on that campaign that he completely abandoned once elected. Promises about respecting the environment, a humble foreign policy, fiscal prudence, etc. So Tennesseans got duped, a lot of people did.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:26 pmI sure as heck pay more for gas than I ever got back in taxes from the republican crooks in washington.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:26 pmbut without all the if this, if that stuff – we have the largest national debt in history under republican leadership?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:26 pmTax cuts are stimulating economic growth.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:24 pm
Yea, for Haliburton.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:27 pmBTW the deficet is not counting the OFF budget special approiations…like the billions for the war in Iraq….
August 16th, 2006 at 11:27 pmto working people the economy is only getting worse. maybe the economy looks good if you a re a wall street millionaire, but the average american sure has hell won’t ever see any of it.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:28 pmMr. “Big” – -who gives a sorry rats ass??????? stfu, u hopelesss cocksucker
August 16th, 2006 at 11:29 pmYou can’t blame 9/11 on Bush.
The Republicans have a totally different approach to terrorsim than the Dems do. The Repubs actually think it’s a problem and are doing something about it. Dems act like it doesn’t even exist.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:21 pm
Yes we can and should. It happened on his watch. BTW it is “rethugs” I hope your not getting paid more than McTroll wages. So where is the link to your claim on I.Q’s ? I think your all mouth (check with exley on that).
August 16th, 2006 at 11:29 pmthe republican solution has been to just make government bigger and more intrusive. they lied when they said they were for small government. it’s bigger now than ever before.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:29 pmLike they say #235, it’s not how big it is, it’s how you use it (or don’t). Within limits, I suppose…
August 16th, 2006 at 11:30 pmI tend to have to agree, somewhat, with the first poster. There is no reason I should have to pay 18 grand for a motorcycle. I would rather buy a used yamaha for 1000 bucks and convert it.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:30 pmthat article at the ny times seems to be rather reaching. quoting this guy doesn’t seem very believable.
Steve Sailer, a conservative columnist at the Web magazine Vdare.com and a veteran student of presidential I.Q.’s.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:30 pmWhether Bush ran a popular vote campaign or not, the majority of Americans voted for Gore.
Gore did not get the majority of the vote in 2000. He got a plurality of less than 1%. But he lost the electoral vote. Bush did get the majority of the vote in ‘04, at almost 52%.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:30 pmTax cuts are stimulating economic growth.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:24 pm
August 16th, 2006 at 11:32 pmAnd things in Iraq are just wonderfull and GWB will go down in history as the greatest president and also the smartest(Mr.big? will post the proof shortly) seems to have a room problem.
The CIA went to Bush on his vacation in 2001 and told him Bin Laden was planning an attack.
He never thought the threat was real, so he told them they “covered their asses” and went back to his vacation paid by the US Taxpayer.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:32 pm#248, “Linda Gottfredson, an I.Q. expert at the University of Delaware, called it a creditable analysis”
August 16th, 2006 at 11:32 pmhow much was Linda Gottfredson paid?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:33 pmThe republican plan to fight terrorisim is simple, if you look at it using Bushomatics.
See, from the Bush camp the object is clear. The more terrorists we kill, the safer we will be.
So, it naturally goes without saying that the more terrorists there are, the more terrorists we can kill.
So since day one, Bush and the brilliant strategists in his camp have been working to make as many terrorists as possible, so we can kill them.
:|
August 16th, 2006 at 11:33 pmThe CIA went to Bush on his vacation in 2001 and told him Bin Laden was planning an attack.
Thank you Micheal Moore.
That information was 10 years old in that PDB, and it was prepared because Bush asked for it.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:34 pmAnyway, I’m sure decades of alcohol binging and coke snorting put an end to whatever advantage he might have enjoyed there. Funny how years of substance abuse mean nothing when the subject is a repub…
August 16th, 2006 at 11:34 pmhi, everyone!
my book is only #5 on the nyt list! :(
hey, the smelly liberal on air america is telling everyone my buubies are fake…they ARE real! as real as the rest of me!
mmm, a bush on a bike? i don’t know if they like that much…sean looks so groovy on his bike. i like mr big twat’s idea: allen/santourum 2008!!!
oh well, not much new…looks like i won’t have any lebanese blood to drink for another few weeks, so, i am a bit sad tonight…
kisses,
ann
August 16th, 2006 at 11:35 pmHe does look pretty *cool*, don’t you think? President Fonzie!!
August 16th, 2006 at 11:35 pmso bush asked for info, intelligence agency gives bush the info, and america is bombed?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:35 pm#248, “Linda Gottfredson, an I.Q. expert at the University of Delaware, called it a creditable analysisâ€
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:32 pm
Its a hoax nimrod. Check out urban legends.
No recorded IQ tests on either candidates are publically available.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:36 pmHey – Mr “big” – suck it, bitch – you and your kind are all going back to the creepy-crawly places under the rocks come November……and you know it. I use my real name, and I’ll give you my real address, if you want some for real.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:36 pmYour source says it is a guess little one..
During the last presidential campaign Mr. Sailer estimated
estimated
2 to decide the size, amount, number, or distance of (something) without actual measurement
Synonyms calculate, call, conjecture, figure, gauge (also gage), guess, judge, make, place, put, reckon, suppose
and since I got a 99 on the ASVAB i must be some genius according to the NYT
August 16th, 2006 at 11:37 pmso bush asked for info, intelligence agency gives bush the info, and america is bombed?
The information was old. It did not talk about the 9/11 plot.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:37 pmbut he asked for intelligence, got the info that was needed, and america was still bombed?
why?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:38 pmHe does look pretty *cool*, don’t you think? President Fonzie!!
Comment by Jimmy — August 16, 2006 @ 11:35 pm
Actually Jimmy, Fonzie knew how to actually “ride” his motorcycle.
But it does remind me of Fonzie a little.
Looking at that picture I get the urge to tell him to “sit on it”.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:38 pmDuring the last presidential campaign Mr. Sailer estimated
estimated
Based on their test scores, Bush has a higher IQ. That’s what the New York Times reported.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:38 pmbut he asked for intelligence, got the info that was needed, and america was still bombed?
why?
He did not get the info he needed. That intel was old. It talked about the 1994 plot. It wasn’t current and it didn’t mention the 9/11 plot.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:40 pmNo son they report somebody …ESTIMATED…..
August 16th, 2006 at 11:40 pm#268, based on their test scores Bush has a higher IQ.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:41 pmdo you have any links so i can formulate an objective opinion about the old information?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:42 pm1. george bush is god.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:42 pm2. liberals are evil.
3. my dick is large.
4. i pray so that i don’t burn.
5. i play with myself.
6. i like money.
7. i don’t have money.
8. if i pray and think george is god, i will get more money.
9. my wife hates me.
10. i have a problem getting it up.
#248, “Linda Gottfredson, an I.Q. expert at the University of Delaware, called it a creditable analysisâ€
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:32 pm
Total Bull $hit–There is no public records of either one of their IQ’s–You are such a total Dip $hit. Why don’t you start again with how brillant and wonderfull a leader GWB is–We all love that one. Really, We love it–do it.. come on.Please!
August 16th, 2006 at 11:42 pmBased on their test scores, Bush has a higher IQ. That’s what the New York Times reported.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:38 pm
Wrong again Archimedes.
Neither candidate has a known IQ test score on file, anywhere.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:42 pmkisses,
ann
Comment by ann coulter
Hi j, is this thread whacked, or what? :)
August 16th, 2006 at 11:43 pmInstead of taking you questionable word at this point boy, why don’t we all read what they TOLD georgie boy….
The following is a transcript of the August 6, 2001, presidential daily briefing entitled Bin Laden determined to strike in US. Parts of the original document were not made public by the White House for security reasons.
Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate bin Laden since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US. Bin Laden implied in U.S. television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and “bring the fighting to America.”
After U.S. missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a — – service.
An Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative told – - service at the same time that bin Laden was planning to exploit the operative’s access to the U.S. to mount a terrorist strike.
The millennium plotting in Canada in 1999 may have been part of bin Laden’s first serious attempt to implement a terrorist strike in the U.S.
Convicted plotter Ahmed Ressam has told the FBI that he conceived the idea to attack Los Angeles International Airport himself, but that in —, Laden lieutenant Abu Zubaydah encouraged him and helped facilitate the operation. Ressam also said that in 1998 Abu Zubaydah was planning his own U.S. attack.
Ressam says bin Laden was aware of the Los Angeles operation. Although Bin Laden has not succeeded, his attacks against the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 demonstrate that he prepares operations years in advance and is not deterred by setbacks. Bin Laden associates surveyed our embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam as early as 1993, and some members of the Nairobi cell planning the bombings were arrested and deported in 1997.
Al Qaeda members — including some who are U.S. citizens — have resided in or traveled to the U.S. for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure that could aid attacks.
Two al-Qaeda members found guilty in the conspiracy to bomb our embassies in East Africa were U.S. citizens, and a senior EIJ member lived in California in the mid-1990s.
A clandestine source said in 1998 that a bin Laden cell in New York was recruiting Muslim-American youth for attacks.
We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a —- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of “Blind Sheikh” Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.
Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.
The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
ain’t the internet kool?
1997..1998…1999 is not ten years from 2001 son…home schoolen showin there boy…
August 16th, 2006 at 11:44 pmdo you have any links so i can formulate an objective opinion about the old information?
Based on what I read in the newspaper at the time. Sorry I can’t get that info for you. But that PDF dealt with old plots, like the 1994 plot to blow up planes over the Philipines. And the attempt to kill the pope. It had no actionable intel. That’s my memory.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:45 pmhey, the smelly liberal on air america is telling everyone my buubies are fake…
Comment by ann coulter — August 16, 2006 @ 11:35 pm
Ann Coulter has breasts?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:45 pmthank you, clif
August 16th, 2006 at 11:45 pmYou claim an estimate as truth….and 2 years is 10 years…got any more facts up you ass you want to pull out … son?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:46 pmSorry I can’t get that info for you.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:45 pm
Gee.
I never would have guessed.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:46 pm1997..1998…1999 is not ten years from 2001 son…home schoolen showin there boy
Well, like I said, the PDF dealt with old terror plots. It was not current, and it certainly didn’t talk about the 9/11 plot. I think it talked about the attacks in Somalia in 1991, which was a decade ago.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:47 pm>_
August 16th, 2006 at 11:47 pmBIG – what are you so afraid of?? I’m sure you’d kick my “lefty” ass – what’s the prob? not willing to throw down when it’s real?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:47 pmBased on their test scores, Bush has a higher IQ. That’s what the New York Times reported.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:38 pm
And which one started the war in Iraq, ran up the deficit, destroyed our status in the world and proven that IQ tests ain’t worth $hit. I will give you one guess. However, there is no way that GWB has an IQ over 105. My guess Kerry 135 min.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:49 pmBIG dumb one read it I POSTED it in #275……
August 16th, 2006 at 11:50 pmWell, like I said, the PDF dealt with old terror plots.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:47 pm
Brilliant, just brilliant.
But a PDF is an Adobe Acrobat document extension.
The president gets a PDB. (Presidential Daily Briefing).
I don’t think Bush would know what to do with a PDF.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:50 pmgeorge bush is not even from texas. he’s a fake.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:51 pmif you want to live like a republican vote democrat.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:51 pmBTW tiny the last Paragraph;
The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives.
is all about the AUG 6th present operations…NOT the PAST
August 16th, 2006 at 11:52 pm#285, yes thank you. It backs up what I said. The PDB was a report of old terror plots. And it was prepared because Bush asked for it.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:52 pmOf course it was vague. What was the PDB’s title again?
Oh yea.
Bin Laden determined to attack inside the United States using Airplanes.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:52 pmBased on what I read in the newspaper at the time. Sorry I can’t get that info for you. But that PDF dealt with old plots, like the 1994 plot to blow up planes over the Philipines. And the attempt to kill the pope. It had no actionable intel. That’s my memory.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:45 pm
That is the same crap? clinton said about the USS Cole bombing–No actionable intel–go figure./sarcasm off.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:53 pm#289, nothing actionable in there about the 9/11 plot.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:53 pmAfter katrina everyone saw that George Bush is all talk when it comes to protecting America.
Just like he ignored the warnings of a terrorist attack.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:53 pmTiny I see your reading comprehension is not much better than your math skills.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:53 pmif you want to live like a republican vote democrat.
Vote Democrat if you want higher taxes.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:55 pm#289, nothing actionable in there about the 9/11 plot.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:53 pm
I disagree. It prompted Mr Bush to action right away.
Of course, the action he took was going on vacation.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:55 pmThey had 70 FBI investigations about Osama(you know the guy Bush forgot) and Bush was not curious at all, just wanted to cut brush..or maybe milk another BULL
August 16th, 2006 at 11:55 pmOf course it was vague. What was the PDB’s title again?
Oh yea.
Bin Laden determined to attack inside the United States using Airplanes.
Comment by WORFEUS — August 16, 2006 @ 11:52 pm
Yea, but that was ten years in the past. they just wanted to let GWB know there was a threat ten years ago./sarcasm off
August 16th, 2006 at 11:55 pm#295, anything in the PDB which talks about the 9/11 plot to fly planes into buildings that was imminent?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:56 pmI mean, how could Mr Bush interpret “Bin Laden determined to attack inside the US using airplanes”?
How could he have possibly known that what it really meant, was Bin Laden was determined to attack inside the US using airplanes?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:56 pmGeorge Bush makes me pay more in gas than I ever got back in taxes. And to boot the money went to him and his prep school friends instead of making America safer.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:57 pmThey had 70 FBI investigations about Osama(you know the guy Bush forgot)
The FBI does work for Bush, no?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:57 pmthey just wanted to let GWB know there was a threat ten years ago.
Comment by Joefriday — August 16, 2006 @ 11:55 pm
Uhh, that might be too much logic for his teensy repuggy brain to absorb right now Joe.
I mean, the idea they TITLED it that to point to an imminent threat, geesh…
Thats GOT to be over his head.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:58 pm285, yes thank you. It backs up what I said. The PDB was a report of old terror plots. And it was prepared because Bush asked for it.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:52 pm
So he wanted to know about old plots not current ones–makes sense to me. Mr.big? is brillant again.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:58 pmThe LAST paragraph was about the US on going operations about Osama(you know the guy Bush forgot), and what HE was up to..think Bush might have been a bit more interested about the guy accused of attacking the US interests in the 90’s and his possible future plans wouldn’t ya … son?
August 16th, 2006 at 11:59 pmGeorge Bush makes me pay more in gas than I ever got back in taxes.
Bush doesn’t control the price at the pump. Start up a car pool with your liberal buddies.
August 16th, 2006 at 11:59 pmEveryone realizes Democrats are going to do a better job at protecting America than George Bush and Dick Cheney ever could. That’s why republicans are going to take a beating this Fall.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:00 amthink Bush might have been a bit more interested about the guy accused of attacking the US interests in the 90’s
Well, like you pointed out, he was interested in it. He asked that a PDB be prepared on the issue, and he had 70 ongoing FBI investigations into the matter.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:00 amEveryone realizes Democrats are going to do a better job at protecting America than George Bush and Dick Cheney ever could.
Newsweek has Bush’s approval on terrorism at 55%.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:01 amThe FBI does work for Bush, no?
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 11:57 pm
Well lets see J Edgar.
The President appoints the head of the Department of Justice.
The FBI is under the Department of Justice.
:|
Hmm….
August 17th, 2006 at 12:01 amWhen gas prices rise George Bush and his rich friends justy make more money.. why would they want to lower the cost of gas when it makes them richer? They have to be happy about it.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:01 amMUST SEE: 2008 GOP convention
August 17th, 2006 at 12:01 amThe investigations were NOT started by BUSH stpo being sooo dishonest foole
August 17th, 2006 at 12:02 amThe investigations were NOT started by BUSH stop being sooo dishonest foole,
Bush did nothing when he got that brief…and during the attacks he sat there like an idiot who does not know what to do.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:03 ameveryone can see that democrats are more trustworthy than republicans. the voters want republicans to stop hurting America.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:04 amWhen gas prices rise George Bush and his rich friends justy make more money..
There is a very small profit margin on gas for gas stations. They make most of their money in the conveinece store on over priced snacks.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:04 amIn November the Republican party is going to experience Freedom on the march first hand.
The voters are tired of Republicans playing politics with national security.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:05 amand when the attacks were over Bush did not even remember the brief…he wanted to go after Saddam…but Tenet said he knew instantly Osama(you know the guy Bush forgot) was responsible
August 17th, 2006 at 12:05 amBush did nothing when he got that brief
He asked for the brief. He was interested in bin Laden and had that PDB prepared. The brief did not mention the 9/11 plot, nor did the title mention airplanes.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:06 ami love all this republican waffling. they can’t even talk in plain sentences anymore. they have to have this big complex justification for everything. the voters can see the fakes for what they are now.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:06 amBush’s numbers are not that good boy;
August 16, 2006
Zogby: Bush Job Approval—34%
Rating down despite foiled terror plot and Lebanon cease fire; Democrats hold generic Congressional lead
President Bush’s job approval rating dipped two points in the last three weeks, despite the foiling of an airline terror plot and the adoption of a cease–fire deal between Israel and Hezbollah forces in Lebanon, a new Zogby International telephone poll shows.
The survey was conducted Aug. 11–15, 2006, included 1,018 respondents, and carries a margin of error of +/– 3.1 percentage points.
The numbers continue to reflect erosion in the President’s political base – just 62% of Republicans give him positive marks for his job performance, while 38% give him negative marks. Even among weekly WalMart shoppers – a demographic group identified by Pollster John Zogby as a critical support group for Bush – just 45% now give him positive job marks, though his numbers among those shoppers have improved 10 points since early June.
More than three out of four – 76% – of weekly WalMart shoppers voted for Bush over Democrat John Kerry in the 2004 presidential election, earlier Zogby polling showed.
Among both conservatives and those who consider themselves very conservative, 59% give him positive marks, while 41% in each group gave him a negative job rating.
One third of respondents – 34% – said that, overall, the nation is headed in the right direction, while 59% said they think things are off on the wrong track.
Pollster John Zogby: “President Bush’s numbers mainly reflect the country’s thinking on the war in Iraq, and most people have made up their minds that the war overall has not been worth the loss of American lives. Terrorism is an important issue to Americans, but when it comes to judging Bush’s presidency, their decision is based largely on Iraq.â€
Democrats continue to carry a lead into the fall campaign season on the generic congressional election question. Likely voters in the poll, asked whether they planned to vote for the Democrat or the Republican in their local congressional election, 39% favored Democrats, while 31% said they would be voting for the Republican candidate. Democrats also are winning the battle among independents, who favor the out–of–power party by a 32% to 20% margin, with 41% of independents yet undecided.
Asked if the war in Iraq has been worth the loss of American lives, 38% said “yes,†while 56% said “no,†a ratio that has held steady over the past year or so.
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1157
For a detailed methodological statement on this poll, please go to:
August 17th, 2006 at 12:07 amhttp://www.zogby.com/methodology/readmeth.dbm?ID=1134
and when the attacks were over Bush did not even remember the brief…he wanted to go after Saddam…but Tenet said he knew instantly Osama(you know the guy Bush forgot) was responsible
And the war against the Taliban was launched.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:07 amthe republican party can never call itself a party of the people again. it’s the party for rich prep-school snobs.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:08 am#322, on handling terrorism, Bush’s numbers are solid.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:09 amAnd the aug 6th PDB was not the only warning the idiot ignored..
There’s been plenty of debate over the text of the President’s Daily Brief from Aug. 6, 2001, and whether it was just “historical information” about Osama bin Laden or whether the memo raised new the specter of a present threat describing bin Laden’s desire to “retaliate in Washington,” make “preparations for hijackings,” and look at “buildings in New York.”
This discussion, however, focuses only on whether one document should have prompted Bush to take the terrorist threat more seriously. The problem is that this single PDB was actually part of a series of warnings Bush received but didn’t act upon.
As the Washington Post’s Dana Priest explained today in a devastating story:
By the time a CIA briefer gave President Bush the Aug. 6, 2001, President’s Daily Brief headlined “Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US,” the president had seen a stream of alarming reports on al Qaeda’s intentions. So had Vice President Cheney and Bush’s top national security team, according to newly declassified information released yesterday by the commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
In April and May 2001, for example, the intelligence community headlined some of those reports “Bin Laden planning multiple operations,” “Bin Laden network’s plans advancing” and “Bin Laden threats are real.”
Sure, but did these dire warnings tell Bush what to do about the imminent threat?
The Post article paints the warnings as incredibly serious, including references to possible hijacking plots.
Without knowing when, where or how the terrorists would strike, the CIA “consistently described the upcoming attacks as occurring on a catastrophic level, indicating that they would cause the world to be in turmoil,” according to one of two staff reports released by the panel yesterday.
“Reports similar to these were made available to President Bush in the morning meetings with [Director of Central Intelligence George J.] Tenet,” the commission staff said.
This was the context in which Bush received his PDB telling him that bin Laden was “determined to strike in U.S.”
Remember, Bush’s line has been that he “never saw any intelligence that indicated there was going to be an attack on America.”
In this context, Bush “had occasionally asked his briefers whether any of the threats pointed to the United States,” the report said. Or, as one U.S. senior official more intimately involved in the summer reporting paraphrased the president’s question to the CIA: “This guy going to strike here?”
A partial answer was contained in the very first sentence of the Aug. 6 President’s Daily Brief: “Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate Bin Ladin since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US.”
The document ended with two paragraphs of circumstantial evidence that al Qaeda operatives might already be in the United States preparing “for hijackings or other types of attacks” and said that the FBI and the CIA were investigating a call to the U.S. Embassy in the United Arab Emirates in May “saying that a group of Bin Ladin supporters was in the US planning attacks with explosives.”
And with that news, Bush left for the longest vacation ever taken by a sitting president.
The defense against the asleep-at-the-wheel charge has all but evaporated. So, Mr. Rove, what else do you have for us?
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/wp-print.php?p=1587
August 17th, 2006 at 12:09 am#327, nothing in there about the 9/11 plot.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:14 amthe republican party can never call itself a party of the people again. it’s the party for rich prep-school snobs.
And yet it is rich liberals who for sending their own kids to private prep schools, but are against the average person doing it with school vouchers.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:15 amBush ahs already proven he can’t handle terrorism. And a bunch of Republican crooks in Congress sure as hell isn’t up to the task… all they care about is their cozy vacation time.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:16 amMr. Big, I am crushed, you were not able to come up with the figures we inquiring minds wanted to know and you spoke of. Estimates are like projected quotes are they not.?? O.K. I estimate bush is a dumbass and has a lower IQ than I do and mine was 128…..
Moving right along…I watched all the senate hearings with dead eyed rice being questioned…All of them..She ,under questening said she had been fully informed and bush /cheney and all the white house had lengthy briefings from the Clinton staff about the impending threats of Osama….That they knew in advance it was going to be by air and the approximate time frames it could happen……Wala…….And we are safer now than we were in 1999..?????It happened on the bull shit bush watch and every other atrocity and killing all over Iraq and Lebanon have been promoted, backed, funded and forced by this murderious bunch of liers and thieves……….The bull shit years are not going to make a pretty picture..It will be titled “The worst president ever”
Mr. Big, do you own a realy big truck…..I love realy big trucks…Have one my self. Funny thing about a lot of guy’s and realy big trucks……LOL…Blessings all, Peace and good night. It’s been fun.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:16 amgeorge bush & dick cheney wanted to invade iraq from day one, that’s why they got rid of the all terror experts who were watching bin laden.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:16 am#327: “Without knowing when, where or how the terrorists would strike”
No actionable intel.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:17 amthe republicans have made a list of failures so long it’s almost too easy to kick them out of office.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:18 amEstimates are like projected quotes are they not.??
Well they were estimates based on tests they both took. And Bush’s IQ is higher, according to the New York Times.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:18 amwell, work is early for me so until the next time…
I’m looking forward to more Republican waffling and desperation. The theory of conservative governance is dead, and the contract with America has expired.
good night :)
August 17th, 2006 at 12:21 amSharon Cox, are you a Wiccan by any chance? I think they are really cool.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:21 amWhy even bother with these clowns. They are like pathetic. The nation isn’t behind you or your president anymore. Keep talking the happy talk.
The same crowd that hated Bill Clinton ‘The Liar’ now support Bush like Jim Jones’ cultists.
Bush saying that “Israel won”. Christ, I read the Israeli papers and even they aren’t spinning it like that.
Fantasy and dreams are not reality. Face it, Bush and his ilk wanted to be the biggest and bestest “do-gooders” in the world. They wanted happy voters and democracy and candy and flowers.
Suck it up clowns, the world is a bad place and you can’t have your silly fantasies at the expense of our American democracy anymore.
-GSD
August 17th, 2006 at 12:22 amYou think if BUSH had asked the FBI to show him what they had…and compare it with what the CIA had…and had Richard Clark look at it..they might have found SOMETHING…like the guy they arrested in Minnisota who was trying to learn how to FLY planes…might have gotten them to tighten security by sept
BVut of course he would have to wanted to do SOMETHING except cut brush and play in Crawford…instead of doing they job
August 17th, 2006 at 12:22 amCNN) — The White House declassified and released Saturday the daily intelligence briefing delivered to President Bush a month before the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.
The declassified intelligence report said the FBI had detected “patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings.”
From CNN.com
August 17th, 2006 at 12:23 amBush ahs already proven he can’t handle terrorism.
Most Americans disagree with that according to pretty much every poll.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:23 amSharon Cox, are you a Wiccan by any chance? I think they are really cool.
Comment by Mr. Big
Sharon’s cool no matter what, Biggie.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:23 amYou think if BUSH had asked the FBI to show him what they had
Well, he did, didn’t he? He asked all agencies to put together a PDB on the possible threat of al qaeda. That’s a president engaged.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:25 amWell they were estimates based on tests they both took.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 17, 2006 @ 12:18 am
No it wasn’t. It was a sham, and I challenge you to produce proof otherwise.
Its an urban legend. Neither candidates ever took any officially recognized IQ exams, or at least no recorded scores have ever been produced.
Besides, Bush has proven by his actions that he is barely able to tie his shoes without instructions. Half the world is convinced hes mentally retarded, and the other half think hes the anti-christ.
But keep on crowing and sticking your chests out. It just adds to the fool factor.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:30 amThat’s a president engaged.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 17, 2006 @ 12:25 am
Come on, tell the truth, you had to laugh a little typing that, right?
August 17th, 2006 at 12:34 amBush is gonna lose the public on the war on terra…..just as he lost the public on the Iraqi war
August 17th, 2006 at 12:34 amBush is gonna lose the public on the war on terra…..just as he lost the public on the Iraqi war.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:34 amBut Bush took his PDB and placed a PBJ on top of it and forgot it.
An engaged president would have stopped the plot instead of letting the worst terrorist attack in the hsitory of the nation get played out.
Then claim that he is protecting us and then claim that after a series of anthrax attacks AFTER 9/11 that no other terrorist attacks have taken place.
Since 9/11 terrorists have roughly 2 Americans a day for 5 years now.
Heckuva job Decider.
-GSD
August 17th, 2006 at 12:35 amSince 9/11 terrorists have killed roughly 2 Americans a day for 5 years now.
Heckuva job Decider.
-GSD
August 17th, 2006 at 12:36 am#340, it’s my memory that in the months before 9/11 airlines were put on alert.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:37 amI’ve seen Bono, and Bush, he’s no Bono.
August 17th, 2006 at 12:39 amNO tiny the PDB was produced by the CIA which is not the same as getting everybody together to compare notes like he could have ASKED Richard Clark to do…but DIDN”T
August 17th, 2006 at 12:39 amThat’s a president engaged.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 17, 2006 @ 12:25 am
Come on! 350 posts and still arguing with this guy! He is just bothering. Who can really think that Bush is an engaged president with…other than his ass?
August 17th, 2006 at 12:39 amMr. Big, Poor Dear..You are a delight and so very one way…To bad, on the bush train wreck your on the wrong track……I send you Blessings any way cause rather you know it or not we are all in this dreadful mess together and it may take a generation to fix it..Providing of course some other terrorest that bush has trained and incited doesn’t riot against us….We must all hope there are no more hurricanes or impending, pre planned wars on the horizon, cause frankly my dear bush doesn’t give a damn and take’s days to respond…Bring the troops home now. Peace is the answer…Boot out DUBI from our ports and secure our borders……
No thank’s (scooter) bush, you are a dumbass and an evil one to boot…..
August 17th, 2006 at 12:52 amLooks like “Tiny one” clocked out
August 17th, 2006 at 12:58 amNO tiny the PDB was produced by the CIA which is not the same as getting everybody together to compare notes like he could have ASKED Richard Clark to do…but DIDNâ€T
If Richard Clark had information for the president he should have shared it with him.
The President asked that the PDB be prepared for him. A PDB is the most highly sesitized classified document the goverment produces. He had 70 FBI investigations going on the matter. He put airlines on alert in the months before 9/11. This was a president fully engaged. There was nothing in the PDB talking about the 9/11 plot. If there was, I’m sure you would have posted it up. But as your prior post said, “Without knowing when, where or how the terrorists would strike.” There’s no actionable intel there for the President to act on.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:01 amAn engaged president would have stopped the plot
He didn’t know about the plot. The PDB didn’t say anything about it. It dealt with old terror plots.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:02 am#344, Agreed, and by his actions( coke, booze, God knows what else) he has fried his brain down to the size of a peanut (thanks, Clint, for that one). Brilliant rightwing minds frequently begin life blowing up frogs…
August 17th, 2006 at 1:04 amThe nation isn’t behind you or your president anymore.
With a 28% approval rating for the Democrat leaders, the nation isn’t gung ho for the Dems either. They have no plan, agenda or policies except hating Bush and wanting to impeach him.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:04 amSharon’s cool no matter what, Biggie.
I’ll agree with that.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:05 amNot an IQ comparison, but interesting nonetheless:
Kerry’s Yale Grades Similar to Bush’s
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Tuesday, June 7, 2005
(06-07) 02:09 PDT BOSTON (AP) —
Sen. John F. Kerry’s grade average at Yale University was virtually identical to President Bush’s record there, despite repeated portrayals of Kerry as the more intellectual candidate during the 2004 presidential campaign.
Kerry had a cumulative average of 76 and got four Ds his freshman year — in geology, two history courses and political science, The Boston Globe reported Tuesday.
His grades improved with time, and he averaged an 81 his senior year and earned an 89 — his highest grade — in political science as a senior.
Under Yale’s grading system in effect at the time, grades between 90 and 100 equaled an A, 80-89 a B, 70-79 a C, 60 to 69 a D, and anything below that was a failing grade.
In 1999, The New Yorker magazine published a transcript showing Bush had a cumulative grade average of 77 his first three years at Yale, and a similar average under a non-numerical rating system his senior year.
Bush’s highest grade at Yale was an 88 in anthropology, history and philosophy. He received one D in his four years, a 69 in astronomy, and improved his grades after his freshman year, the transcript showed.
Kerry graduated from Yale in 1966, Bush in 1968.
URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2005/06/07/national/a020936D03.DTL
Published: Friday, June 10, 2005
Kerry, Bush had similar grades at Yale
Jeff Muskus
Staff Reporter — Yale Daily News
In contrast to the folksy image of President George W. Bush ‘68, the plain-spoken incumbent infamous for his malapropisms, Sen. John Kerry ‘66 was often depicted as an effusive intellectual during last year’s presidential race. But according to newly released records, the two men graduated from Yale College with roughly the same grade point average.
A grade transcript attached to Kerry’s Navy file said he averaged a 76 during his undergraduate career, a time when Yale grades were strictly numerical. Bush averaged a 77 during his first three years and a roughly similar average under a short-lived non-numerical system introduced during his senior year, according to his Yale transcript published in a 1999 issue of the New Yorker magazine.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:05 amHow exactly do you know what bush didn’t know?
There was nothing in that PDB about any 9/11 plot.
Are you suggesting that Bush had prior knowledge of 9/11?
August 17th, 2006 at 1:07 amBut Bush took his PDB and placed a PBJ on top of it and forgot it.
There’s no merit to that.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:08 amThank You! Zooey I think you’re pretty cool also……
Yep! I’m a witch Mr. Big…..No I don’t turn people into frogs nor do I do mean things to little animals or people like bush has and does……..Later all..Blessings….Peace.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:10 amHey Exley, this is from the article:
Cheers and applause erupted inside the Harley-Davidson Inc. vehicle operations plant here when Bush straddled a high-end model painted blue and white and revved its engine again and again.
Not the image that the wild eyed liberals here would want to project really happened. It sounds like Bush was a hit, and the libs’ accusations have fallen flat again.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:12 amYep! I’m a witch Mr. Big…..No I don’t turn people into frogs nor do I do mean things to little animals or people like bush has and does…….
LOL, that’s cool. I always liked witches. The Hollywood image of a witch is way off. They don’t have warts or high hats. I’ve met some and they’re really cool and nice people.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:15 amGod, Allah, Derek Jeter, Runaway Bride, please somebody remove George Bush from this earth! Please!
August 17th, 2006 at 1:17 amArguing with tiny boy is like arguing with a 3 year old…they keep saying what they want to be true…even if the facts do not support them…and ignore anything that is unpleasent
August 17th, 2006 at 1:17 am“revved its engine again and again.”
i hate when dumbass wannabes do that…
so, who’s winning here? anybody know?
g’nite…
August 17th, 2006 at 1:20 am#376, to understand this phenomenon, google “group narcissism”. The news is not good.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:23 amplease somebody remove George Bush from this earth! Please!
The Dems’ agenda if they win back their power in the congress.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:23 am“Legacy†concerns admissions to a university
Like his Daddyu went ther, and his Grand daddy went there…so Yale kind of had to take him…and his C average
August 17th, 2006 at 1:23 am#375, Hell, Clif I tried to work with you.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:24 amoh, but the snap-back to the beginning and seeing the picture reminded my of my first impression when i saw it –
i looks like dubya can’t spread his legs big enough to get on that hog the right way… all that anal “retention” has got him too tight… eww…
sweet dreams… ;-)
August 17th, 2006 at 1:25 amYale kind of had to take him…and his C average
But this had nothing to do with his grades while he was there.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:25 amwho cares what grades bush and kerry got in college?
bush has already been graded by historians, republican and democrat alike, and over 80% say he’s a failure.
in five years, those of you who still say bush presidency wasn’t a disaster will be very lonely people, as far as that opinion is concerned.
enjoy your 30% comradeship while it lasts, whackjobs!
August 17th, 2006 at 1:26 ambush has already been graded by historians, republican and democrat alike, and over 80% say he’s a failure.
They said the same about Reagan when he was in office.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:28 am#388…Heh…Says the person who didn’t know that the U.S. and the Soviet Union were allies in World War II…
August 17th, 2006 at 1:29 amwho cares what grades bush and kerry got in college?
Didn’t Gore flunk out of Divinity school?
August 17th, 2006 at 1:30 am#375, Hell, Clif I tried to work with you.
Comment by Mr. Big
No son you keep repeating the same STUPID lines over and over acting like Bush should have DONE nothing…because that IS what he did…..when a “normal” average American given the same information would probably ask for aCTION and cooperation to STOP Osama…..
son your a repug appologist and dumb to boot
August 17th, 2006 at 1:34 amThey said the same about Reagan when he was in office.
Comment by Mr. Big
Well at the end Reagan was slipping into his depends era wasn’t he?
August 17th, 2006 at 1:35 am“Cheers and applause erupted inside the Harley-Davidson Inc. vehicle operations plant here when Bush straddled a high-end model painted blue and white and revved its engine again and again.”
Dick Cheney was holding a shotgun on the crowd and told them to cheer and clap or else it would be “20 years in Gitmo”.
-GSD
August 17th, 2006 at 1:37 amwhen a “normal†average American given the same information would probably ask for aCTION and cooperation to STOP Osama
Again Bush did take action. He put the airlines on alert in the months before 9/11. He asked that a PDB be prepared on the al qaeda threat. He had 70 FBI investigations going on the matter. This was a president engaged. You’ve failed to show that he wasn’t. Being at Crawford is the same as being at the White House.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:38 amWell at the end Reagan was slipping into his depends era wasn’t he?
No. Now he is regarded as one of the nation’s best presidents by historians. A c-span survey of historians ranked Reagan #11.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:40 amRight now Fox News is negotiating with terrorists.
Iraq is in the middle of a civil war.
Afghanistan just had the best year for opium crops ever.
The dictator of Pakistan is building 50 nuclear bombs.
We were supposed to be fighting them over there, but there have been dozens of terror incidents over here.
Bush has a net approval in 4 states.
Dick Cheney shot an old man in the face with a fancy Italian shotgun a few months ago.
Condi Rice was reduced to leaving the Middle East because no one would see her.
John Bolton had to negotiate with France.
George W. Bush is reading a book by a French author.
Congress has taken “Freedom Fries” off the menue and replace them with French fries.
What a bunch of flip-flopping losers.
-GSD
August 17th, 2006 at 1:42 amDick Cheney was holding a shotgun on the crowd and told them to cheer and clap or else it would be “20 years in Gitmoâ€.
Funny stuff. Still the libs were flat out wrong that people thought Bush looked strange on that hog. The crowd went nuts when he did it. And these were workers at the Harley plant. They signed no loyalty oath.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:42 amOh yeah. Bush claims that Israels withdrawl from Lebanon is a victory and that leaving Iraq would be a failure.
-GSD
August 17th, 2006 at 1:43 amA c-span survey of historians ranked Reagan #11.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 17, 2006 @ 1:40 am
Yea but what they didn’t tell you was the survey was based on the last 10 Presidents.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:44 am#403, and even after all that CQ Quartly predicts that Repubicans will retain control of congress in November.
What does that say about the Dems?
August 17th, 2006 at 1:45 am#406….Indeed. Not only is there no creativity. There are no facts. No citations. No links. Nothing to support his/her statements….It is the debating style of a child.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:45 amThe crowd went nuts when he did it.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 17, 2006 @ 1:42 am
Thats cause they were afraid he was gonna dump it.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:46 amAgain Bush did take action.
No he did NOT
He put the airlines on alert in the months before 9/11.
No son otherwise some of the hijackers who were on an FBI list would have been STOPPED from flying both in their study phase…and on 9-11
He asked that a PDB be prepared on the al qaeda threat.
and HE ignored it…rudely at that.
He had 70 FBI investigations going on the matter.
Sorry son some of the FBI investigations were started over a years before aug 2001 when Clinton was President…which means you lie about things you CAN NOT PROVE
This was a president engaged.
If what Bush did in Crawford in 2001 or 2005 is engaged we are really in trouble
You’ve failed to show that he wasn’t.
You are claiming action YOU CAN NOT PROVE
Being at Crawford is the same as being at the White House.
Not at all since I happened to have worked closely with Presidential security during My time in the Army…there is NO PLACE like the white House…no place at all better for Bush to take chareg …but he preferres Crawford and getting away from work
August 17th, 2006 at 1:46 amA c-span survey of historians ranked Reagan #11.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 17, 2006 @ 1:40 am
Yea but what they didn’t tell you was the survey was based on the last 10 Presidents.
Comment by WORFEUS — August 17, 2006 @ 1:44 am
I gotta admit…That was pretty clever and funny.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:47 amGod, pathetic. Are the Bush folks sending out Kim Jong Ils talking pionts now? I mean, can it really get more lame. “Yeah, at least Bush looked cool on a motorcycle” at a meaningless photo-op.
Is it really that bad for you guys? I mean Republicans are reduced to listening to some 50 something year old overwight guy with a soft weenie and then telling people that you are “Ditto heads” because you just repat what he just said and that is supposed to be cool?
Damn. I would rather be banging the Dixie Chicks than “going out with Rush and the boys” to the Domincan Republic on a Viagra junket.
-GSD
August 17th, 2006 at 1:47 amStill the libs were flat out wrong that people thought Bush looked strange on that hog.
Comment by Boss Hog — August 17, 2006 @ 1:42 am
We never said he looked “strange”.
We said he looked stupid.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:48 amI would rather be banging the Dixie Chicks than “going out with Rush and the boysâ€
Comment by GSD — August 17, 2006 @ 1:47 am
Agreed.
Course I’d rather be boinking the Dixie Chicks than just about anything.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:49 amWhat is with all of these rightwing tools. Big Guy…Boss Hog……making up for some Limp-baugh like issues boys?
-GSD
August 17th, 2006 at 1:51 amMost normal people do not wear a suit while riding…and do not try to look like BONO…but since georgie boy has had that insecurity complex…he tries real hard to compensate..and HIDE
August 17th, 2006 at 1:54 am#402, Which historians? RR was the guy who made you feel proud to be an American while he systematically assaulted the underpinnings of the middle class. He expanded government, sold weapons to Iran, ran a huge deficit, and declared that ketchup counted as a food group. Oh, and he said that trees cause pollution. Great guy. He also ran out of Lebanon like a scared rabbit, But funny, I don’t remember hearing any cut and run accusations back then…
August 17th, 2006 at 1:59 amWhen GWB’s supporters feel the need to justify the reasons for the choice they made, a popular answer is usually about how he is seen by them to be, ’someone you could sit and have a beer with’. This response helps to explain the continued support by that 30% of Americans who ignore every mistake he makes, no matter what. GWB is an ALCOHOLIC!!! Once an Alcoholic, always an Alcoholic. GWB chose to stop drinking, but he is still an Alcoholic. So when I hear people say that part of the attraction they have to GWB is based on their fantasy of drinking with him, I cringe. It seems so cruel and thoughtless. But those are the common traits shared by GWB, BushCo, and their supporters, so I shouldn’t be surprised, but it just seems wrong to me.
August 17th, 2006 at 1:59 amhe is seen by them to be, ’someone you could sit and have a beer with’
Comment by Cyra Brown — August 17, 2006 @ 1:59 am
Or some crack.
August 17th, 2006 at 2:01 amBecause the amount of reporting is so voluminous, only a select fraction can be chosen for briefing the president and senior officials. During 2001, Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet was briefed regularly regarding threats and other operational information relating to Usama Bin Ladin.1 He in turn met daily with President Bush, who was briefed by the CIA through what is known as the President’s Daily Brief (PDB). Each PDB consists of a series of six to eight relatively short articles or briefs covering a broad array of topics; CIA staff decides which subjects are the most important on any given day. There were more than 40 intelligence articles in the PDBs from January 20 to September 10, 2001, that related to Bin Ladin. The PDB is considered highly sensitive and is distributed to only a handful of high-level officials
http://911.gnu-designs.com/Chapter_8.html
August 17th, 2006 at 2:21 amHigh Probability of Near-Term “Spectacular” Attacks
Threat reports surged in June and July, reaching an even higher peak of urgency. The summer threats seemed to be focused on Saudi Arabia, Israel, Bahrain, Kuwait, Yemen, and possibly Rome, but the danger could be anywhere– including a possible attack on the G-8 summit in Genoa. A June 12 CIA report passing along biographical background information on several terrorists mentioned, in commenting on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, that he was recruiting people to travel to the United States to meet with colleagues already there so that they might conduct terrorist attacks on Bin Ladin’s behalf. On June 22, the CIA notified all its station chiefs about intelligence suggesting a possible al Qaeda suicide attack on a U.S. target over the next few days. DCI Tenet asked that all U.S. ambassadors be briefed
http://911.gnu-designs.com/Chapter_8.html
August 17th, 2006 at 2:22 amOn June 25, Clarke warned Rice and Hadley that six separate intelligence reports showed al Qaeda personnel warning of a pending attack. An Arabic television station reported Bin Ladin’s pleasure with al Qaeda leaders who were saying that the next weeks “will witness important surprises” and that U.S. and Israeli interests will be targeted. Al Qaeda also released a new recruitment and fund-raising tape. Clarke wrote that this was all too sophisticated to be merely a psychological operation to keep the United States on edge, and the CIA agreed. The intelligence reporting consistently described the upcoming attacks as occurring on a calamitous level, indicating that they would cause the world to be in turmoil and that they would consist of possible multiple–but not necessarily simultaneous–attacks
http://911.gnu-designs.com/Chapter_8.html
August 17th, 2006 at 2:23 amNow he is regarded as one of the nation’s best presidents by historians. A c-span survey of historians ranked Reagan #11
sorry to inform you of this, but #11 isn’t even cracking the top 25% of all american presidents. that doesn’t equate to one of the best, except in c-average world.
August 17th, 2006 at 2:24 amA second cause of this disparity in response is that domestic agencies did not know what to do, and no one gave them direction. Cressey told us that the CSG did not tell the agencies how to respond to the threats. He noted that the agencies that were operating overseas did not need direction on how to respond; they had experience with such threats and had a “playbook.” In contrast, the domestic agencies did not have a game plan. Neither the NSC (including the CSG) nor anyone else instructed them to create one.45
This lack of direction was evident in the July 5 meeting with representatives from the domestic agencies. The briefing focused on overseas threats. The domestic agencies were not questioned about how they planned to address the threat and were not told what was expected of them. Indeed, as noted earlier, they were specifically told they could not issue advisories based on the briefing.46 The domestic agencies’ limited response indicates that they did not perceive a call to action.
http://911.gnu-designs.com/Chapter_8.html
Here it SHOWS Bush told NO one to do much other wise domestic action would have been noted
August 17th, 2006 at 2:27 amHe put the airlines on alert in the months before 9/11….Biggie…
Although the FAA had authority to issue security directives mandating new security procedures, none of the few that were released during the summer of 2001 increased security at checkpoints or on board aircraft. The information circulars mostly urged air carriers to “exercise prudence” and be alert. Prior to 9/11, the FAA did present a CD-ROM to air carriers and airport authorities describing the increased threat to civil aviation. The presentation mentioned the possibility of suicide hijackings but said that “fortunately, we have no indication that any group is currently thinking in that direction.”47 The FAA conducted 27 special security briefings for specific air carriers between May 1, 2001, and September 11, 2001.Two of these briefings discussed the hijacking threat overseas. None discussed the possibility of suicide hijackings or the use of aircraft as weapons. No new security measures were instituted.
http://911.gnu-designs.com/Chapter_8.html
NOT what biggie claimed is it?
August 17th, 2006 at 2:30 amIn sum, the domestic agencies never mobilized in response to the threat. They did not have direction, and did not have a plan to institute. The borders were not hardened. Transportation systems were not fortified. Electronic surveillance was not targeted against a domestic threat.54 State and local law enforcement were not marshaled to augment the FBI’s efforts. The public was not warned.
The terrorists exploited deep institutional failings within our government. The question is whether extra vigilance might have turned up an opportunity to disrupt the plot. As seen in chapter 7, al Qaeda’s operatives made mistakes. At least two such mistakes created opportunities during 2001, especially in late August.
http://911.gnu-designs.com/Chapter_8.html
Biggie ..the Commission seems to DISAGREE with your assessment
August 17th, 2006 at 2:33 amcheney’s staff started taking cipro (for anthrax) in the weeks before 9/11.
jeb bush declared martial law in florida 4 days before 9/11.
ashcroft wouldn’t fly on commercial planes beginning the summer of 2001, because of a “threat assessment”.
why?
August 17th, 2006 at 2:34 amcheney’s staff started taking cipro (for anthrax) in the weeks before 9/11.
Comment by progressaurus rex — August 17, 2006
that might have been in responce to the Anthrax attacks on the Democratic leadership of congress right after 9-11…since Cheney and his staff did have to travel there from time to time…..especially since the repugs had lost their 50% share of seats…
Oh wait they took the cipro BEFOORE 9-11…and the Attacks occured after 9-11…..I wonder why?
August 17th, 2006 at 2:39 amPetty and ignorant.
Comment by Exley — August 17, 2006
pot meet kettle
August 17th, 2006 at 2:43 amyes, the cipro thing, the florida martial law thing, and the devout muslims (atta and 2 other hijackers) positively identified on jack abramoff’s suncruz gambling boat 6 days before 9/11 kind of have me puzzled.
also bush claiming he saw the first plane hit the north tower on 9/11 — a story he repeated multiple times to journalists. it even appeared on the whitey house website for a bit. what’s that all about?
August 17th, 2006 at 2:44 amAre you the pot or the kettle, Clif?
August 17th, 2006 at 2:47 amNeither son as you MADE the claim against another…try to keep up boy…
August 17th, 2006 at 2:48 amOh, I don’t claim that BT is “petty and ignorant.” I am stating it as a matter of undeniable fact. One need only look at this thread to see that.
August 17th, 2006 at 2:51 amThat’s because the repugs don’t have a legacy to stand on this fall….thus exely is in denial about legacies…and their effects
August 17th, 2006 at 2:59 amJames Webb is a laughriot. And he is down by 10 points to Allen in the lastest polling.
Comment by Mr. Big — August 16, 2006 @ 9:42 pm
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Wrong! I was polled by Zogby late yesterday!
Now, then, I read you guys were zeroing in on where the action is, trying to counteract legitimate commentors on democratic and progressive blogs. What’s your point?!!! You’ll never convince anyone of your hero’s (bush) administration’s demonic activities in pretense of being a Christian. War is not Christ like!
And, where do you think Wubbuh is going to ride that Harley with it sitting there on the assembly track, man!?? How dumb can you Rovites get?! What’s your pr crisis of the hour? Looks like your boy fell backwards off that Bike! Don’t worry no serious injury he landed upon his head! Again!
August 17th, 2006 at 3:23 amYou are extraordinarily immature and petty.
Comment by Exley
son, that pot kettle thingy again…
August 17th, 2006 at 3:33 amHere is what I don’t understand:
Just why don’t the neocons keep dubya from looking like the complete ‘dork’ that he is? I thought they were at least trying to make him look fairly intelligent. I mean, they are the ones that ‘gave him the Presidency’ – you’d think they’d look after their investment. But no, he’s allowed to be his loony self again, and again, and again. Oh well, good for a laugh, but we all know it really isn’t a laughing matter. This ‘dork’ is not only ruining America, America’s people, and the people of the world, he is without any moral fiber. When someone is responsible for the mass slaughter of countless people, there is obviously a severe problem.
August 17th, 2006 at 5:27 am“GW Bush + a Harley=
A regular guy.”
G. W. Bush not an elitist? Tell that to the carlyle group, but I guess maybe you’re right. He’s just a pawn for his daddy, that elitist from connecticut.
August 17th, 2006 at 5:31 amor Massachusetts I mean.
August 17th, 2006 at 5:35 amGod is a Nihilist, …Bush’s Daddy was born in Connecticut where his Grand daddy was a senator in the 50’s, kind of like he was Loserman’s predecessor. Bush’s Daddy moved to Texas, but kept the family vacation home in Maine….
August 17th, 2006 at 5:45 amdixie blood
You forgot number 9: Posting a link and lying about what your link claims. Seixon is a past master of this one.
Anyway, this deserves a repost:
August 17th, 2006 at 7:58 am
This is the guy that’s kepping us “safe, but not completely safe”? Perhaps his next “Mission Accomplished” photo-op will have him riding in on a Harley. Pathetic.
http://www.harmoniousdissent.blogspot.com
Check out Harmonious Dissent, the new blog of SSA.
On HD right now:
“Bush is crap”
Ken Lay could be cleared of all convistions. Why? Because he’s dead.
http://www.harmoniousdissent.blogspot.com
August 17th, 2006 at 8:04 amLCLiberal
On the Ken Lay thing, so in America the conservatives have made such a pigs ear of your court system that you are innocent until proven guilty – twice now? I mean, how many convicted burglars get their records expunged because they didn’t appeal the verdict?
August 17th, 2006 at 8:10 am#37 : Bush a regular guy? He’s a Blue-Blood Posing as a Regular Guy (He hangs out with the Have-Mores). Granted, Kerry is, too. But, to imply that Bush is a Regular Guy is just plain Wrong. Born in Connecticut, Dumbya is a Blue-Blood-Cross & Bones-Yale-Rich Guy.
August 17th, 2006 at 8:44 amOFF THE TOPIC : BushCo. must love the headlines today. To satisfy this nations’s (Not Mine, thank you) fascination with murder the Ramsey murder will certainly grab the headlines and take away from the skullduggery of BushCo. They must really love this. just like the runaway bride, Michael Jackson. ETC
August 17th, 2006 at 8:49 amdixie blood…#465
*NEOCON* checking in…..my original tag was mike from ct…but I went with what you guys/gals call me…..so, with that said……
…Troll alert?….I like it!!! However–having only been here for a few days (although following this site for some time)…I am fairly new at this so please be patient…I can make a couple of quick observations about your list….
1) Provide no links. Just slurs and crap.…thats pretty much what 95% of you progressives do on this post….
2) Put words in your opponents mouth by twisting the reply.…not only have I repeatedly seen the “progressives” on this site do this….they also like to go on tangents….
3) Twisting “cause and effect†using tortured logic.…I am not too sure everybody on this site understands what cause and effect means….
4) Bottom line goal: Wasting our time and energy and making us angry.…my goal is far from wasting your time or mine….making you guys/gals angry? I think that is innate—for/to being a “progressive”….without anger you guys are not very entertaining…..
5) Claiming your smarter or went to a great school to prove your better or know more or are worth more.…I consider myself a lifetime student….I am willing to learn if you can substantiate your points with more then leftist-Bush hating sites that play with statistics and “polls”……intelligence debate? it seems that the “progressives” here are the ones always calling us fools, idiots, un-educated, etc etc….not to mention the foul language!!! You “progressives” must hang out at the docks or something…..
6) Using weasel words and weasel points from which you back down at the first sniff of an informed link.…see reponse #1
7) Provide links to discredited or biased sources…see reponse #1
8) Pasting irrelevant telephone book size posts from conservative/lib think tanks.…see reponse #1
dixie blood ….I think what I am getting at is you DO NOT REALIZE you live in a glass house….yet the stones are flying on this site……
I must thank you for a list of individuals that don’t full under the “progressive” tag….you just saved me a great deal of time…..look forward to chatting in the future!! adios!!!
August 17th, 2006 at 9:15 amNEOCON – Try your tricks on a right wing site posing as a liberal. Come back and let’s compare notes. Shall we?
August 17th, 2006 at 10:12 amAnd yet it is rich liberals who for sending their own kids to private prep schools, but are against the average person doing it with school vouchers. \
Wow – and you know this how???? Coming up with crap from out of thin air again. Amazing. Really. Didn’t you know, it is the FREAKIN’ repukes who have consistently cut education funds…you just can’t seem to handle education, period.
History will show, every freakin’ despot out there, have all done nothing but discredit and smear the educated masses. If repukes had their way, they would have done what Stalin did – ARREST ALL THE EDUCATED.
August 17th, 2006 at 10:14 amATTENTION ALL TROLLS: Repeating your lies over and over and over does NOT WORK here. I realize that it has worked on all of you, beautifully, I might add, we see you all as nothing but bush apologists, freaks really. Nonthinking, cultish, and repulsive.
August 17th, 2006 at 10:17 amEeeeuuuuu!!!!! Daaadeeeee!!!!Don’t you know that Harleys are soooo like 90’s ?
August 17th, 2006 at 11:27 amdixie blood…opps…it should have been #472 not #465….my bad….sorry….still getting the hang of it here……
Horatius…why would I want to pose as something I am not….I am here to learn about the “progressive” mind…..the “progressive” world view…the “progressive” plan for america…….
Horatius…this is no trick….nor do I get paid by any right-wing agency/person—like so many of your brethren believe…..you guys are big on the conspiracies huh?
madashell…the lefties dont drill their armies? all you guys/gals think that the right is unique…..the “progressives” and the right have very similar MO’s…..you just fail to see that the left could actually be promoting propaganda and “selective” pieces of information……but that’s ok….that’s part of what makes you a lefty…
August 17th, 2006 at 11:52 amMommy wow! I’m a big kid now!
August 17th, 2006 at 12:12 pmphoto caption…..And this is what a dog does to mark his territory.? Yes, sir Mr. President, just peeeeee right there on the seat…..Vraroommm,…..What next.? Well sir the photographer say’s it’s a rap….
August 17th, 2006 at 2:27 pmThis is why the Americam people LOVE Dubya…Because he is a regular guy… just like they are. The quintessential American president.
Comment by exley — August 16, 2006 @ 8:19 pm
Well, no. The few American people left who love Bush love him because he’s a bigot just like them. And he’s ignorant just like them. Nothing to be proud of. Sorry. This “president” is so desperate to resuscitate his image at every turn that her conveniently forgets that he ought instead concentrate on doing his job for this country and improving the United States’ image. But he does not care about us. His every thought is devoted to himself and how he looks. Gotta make those youngins think republicans are COOL! Gotta appeal to bikers! Gotta make the republican party look like it’s all about fun! This is the WORST president this country has ever had to endure. The absolute worst ever. The damage Bush has done to this country and the world will take decades to repair, if indeed any of it can ever be repaired. It will take a miracle to bring the U.S. back to the luster it once enjoyed, and that miracle will never happen under the republican party. The time has come for new blood. Pray it happens with all your heart and soul.
August 17th, 2006 at 2:46 pmNEOCON – CODE NAME FOR NEONAZI!
August 17th, 2006 at 2:51 pm….I am here to learn about the “progressive†mind…..the “progressive†world view…the “progressive†plan for america…….
no you’re NOT. You are here to discredit the progressive movement, period. Look up the word sometime, asshat.
August 17th, 2006 at 2:53 pmIsn’t bush actually from new connecticut? Didn’t he attend yale, a school for liberal elite snobs?
August 17th, 2006 at 3:51 pmthe right vs. left thing is more a matter of cynical vs. sincere. righties, in their cynicism, give up any measure of sincerity for the expedience of what they believe is pragmatic (hence their lack of ethics and morality in “”war” on terror” issues, free trade/capitalism, etc.). lefties, libs, progs (since no one can understand anything that doesn’t have a label stuck to it) remain sincere in their thinking and their efforts and their desire to understand, without letting anxiety drive them to set thoughtful reflection aside for the sake of a practical expedience fueled by hysterical hyper-enthusiasm. however, as human beings, even the most sincere can be driven to fits of aggressive venting, particularly when perpetually adolescent rightards spout off at the mouth about things they have but a slight grasp on.
August 17th, 2006 at 5:28 pmWe are approaching 500 comments.
August 17th, 2006 at 9:11 pmI’d party with him, but sure wouldn’t want to go into business, or even rent a room to Bush.
August 17th, 2006 at 9:14 pmunfortunately, for truth, to party with bush these days requires that you sign a loyalty pledge. you don’t want to harsh w’s buzz.
August 17th, 2006 at 9:35 pmWe are approaching 500 comments.
Comment by For Truth — August 17, 2006 @ 9:11 pm
What happens then?
August 17th, 2006 at 9:38 pmWhat happens then?
we grab pitchforks and torches and storm the white house
August 17th, 2006 at 10:21 pmRead Ralph Naders open letter to GWB on Common Dreams–It is great.
August 17th, 2006 at 10:33 pmok, i never get to be first…
August 17th, 2006 at 10:41 pm…so i’ll take 500th instead.
August 17th, 2006 at 10:41 pmI’m last!! No more comments!
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