White House Searching For ‘Alternatives’ To Democracy In Iraq
White House Searching For ‘Alternatives’ To Democracy In Iraq
“In light of the recent violence in the Middle East,†President Bush said recently, “some are questioning whether democracy can take root in the region. I believe that the Iraqi people are showing us their answer.â€
But privately, White House officials are wondering if the “free and democratic Iraq†Bush envisions is still possible amid continued sectarian violence. The New York Times reports today that officials are now “considering alternatives other than democracy†for Iraq:
[S]ome outside experts who have recently visited the White House said Bush administration officials were beginning to plan for the possibility that Iraq’s democratically elected government might not survive.
“Senior administration officials have acknowledged to me that they are considering alternatives other than democracy,†said one military affairs expert who received an Iraq briefing at the White House last month and agreed to speak only on condition of anonymity.
“Everybody in the administration is being quite circumspect,†the expert said, “but you can sense their own concern that this is drifting away from democracy.â€
Bush has rationalized the Iraq war by arguing “a free Iraq at the heart of the Middle East†would transform the region and be remembered as a “watershed event in the global democratic revolution.â€
Now, even the administration admits this rosy scenario is becoming less likely by the day.
UPDATE: Rich Lowry reports that an administration official tells him: “I checked again today and no one, repeat no one, here is talking about ‘alternatives to democracy.’”
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well, DUH! You would have to be really stupid to believe that is why we’re there in the first DAMN PLACE!
August 17th, 2006 at 3:19 pmWhere’s Sadam?
August 17th, 2006 at 3:20 pmThey’ve apparently been looking for alternatives to democracy here in the US too.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:24 pmChaos By Design:
Where Iraq is concerned, the mission is precisely ON PLAN.
Bush is lying when he says that things have not turned out as he had hoped. His hope, and indeed the Neocon’s Plan, was to create a Quagmire – to ensure Permanent Bases – PERIOD.
This is not a theory, this is a FACT.
THE PLAN WAS ALWAYS “OCCUPATION”…FOREVER.
The Plan also calls for depopulation.
They are ON PLAN.
They are happy that you believe that someone named Al Zarkawi actually exists.
They are happy that you believe that someone named Bin Laden actually exists.
They are happy that you believe that Muslims are the cause of all terror.
They are happy that you have not studied the tactics of False Flag Attacks and what their political purpose is.
They are happy that you are distracted (by design) to a new topic every day.
They are happy that you think this is all the result of incompetence and poor planning. This is precisely what Rove wants you to believe.
They have created a no win situation, with no way out…BY DESIGN!
You think they are incompetent and stupid because that is what they WANT YOU TO THINK.
We are in opposite world. LITERALLY NOTHING is as it appears.
NOTHING.
Get your head around that and stop assuming that these people are anything less than pure evil.
It is a grand conspiracy. Admitting it is going to save you a whole lot of ranting and raving about how stupid and incompetent they are.
Bush is just the front man for a very well orchestrated plan to alter your sense of reality.
Remember this from Ron Suskind?
In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn’t like about Bush’s former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House’s displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn’t fully comprehend – but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.
The aide said that guys like me were “in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. “That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality – judiciously, as you will – we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/101704A.shtml
DID YOU THINK HE WAS KIDDING?
August 17th, 2006 at 3:25 pmThe DOJ is also quickly appealing today’s NSA ruling.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:26 pmZalmay Khalilzad warns that the invasion and occupation of Iraq has opened “a Pandora’s box,” spreading “conflict,” as Cornwell describes it, across the Middle East. In fact, this is precisely what the Straussian neocons want–chaos and conflict spreading like an uncontrollable wild fire, scorching Muslim and Arab culture, eating away at the very societal cohesion of the region, thus leaving it decimated and malleable to reorganization along the lines envisioned by the Straussian neocons….
the actions of the Straussian neocons, following a well-established pattern, are anything but mistakes. Iran realizes this….
….Bush, the useful idiot sock puppet, unelected, court-appointed president of the Straussian neocons, is in the process of jettisoning democracy…. For the Straussian neocons, those of us alarmed and moved to action by the in-your-face onslaught against the Bill of Rights are considered the enemy. “Opponents of the ruling cabal, whatever their stripe, are ‘them.’ Indeed, since the cabal of philosophers is deceiving everyone else, even those who have joined the cause out of religious zeal are, in a real sense, ‘them.’ A small circle of initiates who repel the advances of everyone else is a feature of the Straussian State. These initiates are philosophers who rely on reason, and nihilistic reason tells them there are no rules, none, in this domestic battle,” [Michael] Doliner continues.
In order to construct the Straussian hierarchical society required to wage total, unrelenting, generational war, those opposed to the plan must be systematically eliminated, a process well under way with the illegal use of the NSA’s massive high-tech snoop apparatus. Of course, this apparatus is not employed, as we are assured by a complicit corporate media, to ferret out “al-Qaeda” telephone calls and email messages, but rather to locate and compile electronic dossiers on critics of the Straussians, who will be dealt with in coordinated manner after the next “Pearl Harbor” event occurs–and no doubt the Iranians will endeavor to provide this event after their country is brutally invaded, as Javad Vaeedi promises.
“More dangerous an enemy of the US and its traditional values than Muslims, neo-Jacobins have seized control of the Bush presidency and US foreign policy. They will stop at nothing to achieve their goal of World War IV in the Middle East,” [Paul Craig] Roberts warns. “The neo-Jacobins are rushing to get America involved in a general Middle Eastern war before Americans have time to think. The terrorist scare which worked the first time is being employed again. Once we have attacked other sovereign Islamic countries, we will have to bring back the draft in order to raise the necessary armies or resort to nuclear weapons…. If the American public falls for the second round of neo-Jacobin propaganda [in the current context, against Iran], neither do they deserve, nor will they have, liberty and democracy.”
http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=278
August 17th, 2006 at 3:27 pmA Partial Article of:
Pentagon Studying Its War Errors
By Bryan Bender
The Boston Globe
August 17, 2006
Washington – The US military establishment has quietly undertaken a wholesale reassessment of its war strategy with a goal of identifying the mistakes made in Iraq and Afghanistan – and remedying them before the next conflict.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:30 pmThis summer, high-level Pentagon officials ordered a pair of secret studies to pinpoint the military’s failures in the two conflicts, and, according to one of the authors, “the results won’t be pretty” when the findings are produced this fall. Last week, the Defense Department invited about 50 of the nation’s top counter insurgency specialists to a closed-door meeting outside Washington to critique recent operations and chart a way forward.
The studies, according to several Pentagon officials involved, have found serious deficiencies across the board. For example, US troops in Iraq have often used too much force when conducting operations in civilian areas, unnecessarily alienating local populations. They cite US commanders as being too slow to establish working relationships with local allies, and note that providing security and safety for the Iraqi people wasn’t an early priority.
The military’s continuing shortcomings in gathering accurate intelligence about insurgents has particularly hampered its missions: “We know relatively little about insurgent motivation and morale, leadership, and recruitment,” according to an unpublished study produced in June by the government-funded RAND Corporation.
“This is a struggle for the soul of the Army,” said Colonel Peter Mansoor , a former battalion commander in Iraq who now heads the newly established Army and Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Center in Fort Leavenworth, Kan. “A lot of work needs to be done to change the mind-set of the force. For decades, we focused on high-intensity combat. We are trying to shift the culture of the force and balance it better.”
Top officers are literally re writing the book on how to conduct counterinsurgency operations – a skill that has atrophied in the three decades since the Vietnam War but has become painfully relevant in Iraq and Afghanistan, where winning hearts and minds has proved far more difficult than killing enemy forces.
As the final fig leaf of legitimacy is stripped from the Iraq debacle, I find myself asking one question; will all those who supported Bush, voted him in and got behind his policies finally be able to admit their fault? Not bloody likely.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:31 pmJust put Saddam back in power and let’s be done with it, he will sort this mess out in short order.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:33 pmScary shit, Plunger.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:33 pmWhat do you suggest, aside from voting?
“The Iraqi people are showing us the answer.”
What an incredible statement. Sectarian groups are murdering people by the dozen, and Bush suggests that the Iraqi people are building a stable Democracy.
What kind of fantastical fact-free worldview does this moron have?
August 17th, 2006 at 3:38 pmI would like to know why doesn’t Bush talk about Bin Laden anymore? Was he captured and nobody told us? It’s like Bin Laden never existed. This administration makes me physically ill!
August 17th, 2006 at 3:40 pmJeebus plunger, ease off the acid. I mean if all that shit is happening, if the world does not even remotely exist as it appears, I don’t want to know about it. I will simply be happy driving my sedan to my BS job playing with my kids and fishing on saturdays, because it is too late for me to make a change.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:40 pmCan’t force democracy on a people. Period.
By the way, if anyone truly believes this is about spreading democracy, then I’ve got some land in Fall River to sell you.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:41 pmChimpy and Dicky are in their death-throes. Unable to connect the dots, they just read the ramblings of trolls on the progressive sites, and regurgitate it to Bagdad Tony for pub(l)ic consumption.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:43 pm4. shades of the RISING OF THE FOURTH REICH
August 17th, 2006 at 3:43 pmMaybe they could put Saddam Hussein back in power. I hear he’s just sitting around doing nothing these days…..
August 17th, 2006 at 3:46 pmthe only satisfaction that will happen, and it will happen – is their eventual FALL. If history has taught me anything – is that this kind of EVIL does not last forever. My biggest fear, though, is what is to happen before that?
August 17th, 2006 at 3:47 pmYou mean he was for it before he was against it?
August 17th, 2006 at 3:47 pmFree and Democratic Iraq per junior’s vision ??
YGTBFKM !
I thought this was all about the WMDs Saddam had ready to launch that was going to
provide us with a smoking gun in the form of a shrooom cloud ??
Wait . . . . then it was . . ‘de-throne the evil dictator Saddam’.
No . . . . . it was really . . ‘bring freedom and democracy to people all over the world’.
Now it’s become . . . . ‘as long as he pretends to be president, the USA will occupy Iraq’.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:50 pmWhat’s next a Sunni dictator??
August 17th, 2006 at 3:51 pm#11
Actually, if you study the history of the now ‘Democratic Free World’, he’s square on.
England = former world spanning empire, participant in the crusades
Japan = historically fearless and successful warlords for holding the whole of China at bay
America = white colonial expansion by any means necessary, most notably genocide and slave labor
Save your outrage for the coming American Civil War.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:55 pm… and the Congressional investigations into how the Bush Cabal lead us to invasion and occupation of Iraq begins… uh… when?
It shocks me that power Bush has over his own party. Republicans should be in there cleaning up this mess. Alas, they are content on sitting back and letting Frat Boy Captain Chaos lead the way.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:56 pmIt’s too bad they’re not searching for alternatives to an idiot acting like a President.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:57 pm#13
And people like you who shirk their duty as a free-born American citizen make it ALL possible. People seem to have forgotten that being an American doesn’t equate getting a ‘free pass’ to sit on your ass and get fat. It’s never too late to take up your duty as a citizen.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:58 pm“Save your outrage for the coming American Civil War. ”
#27, please explain this.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:58 pmAnd people like you who shirk their duty as a free-born American citizen make it ALL possible. People seem to have forgotten that being an American doesn’t equate getting a ‘free pass’ to sit on your ass and get fat. It’s never too late to take up your duty as a citizen.
actually, be a free born American gives me the godamn right to do whatever the hell I want. (unless it’s conceal a handgun in my waist or let my 15 year old drive my tractor on the street, or buy a beer on a sunday or smoke a joint, etc.)
August 17th, 2006 at 4:02 pmRonin is definitely gonna go with the brownshirt side when & if a war comes.
Guy….you practicin’ that goosestep march? You already have the fascist dogma down pat. Why don’t you go back to lilgreenfootballs?
August 17th, 2006 at 4:03 pmDear Payson – Allow me to correct one tiiiiiiny little thing: “Now, even the administration admits this rosy scenario is becoming less likely by the day….” SHOULD read, “Now, even the administration admits this rosy scenario is becoming less likely by the day – - AND progressives are THRILLED!” That’s a bit more accurate….
August 17th, 2006 at 4:04 pm#
Scary shit, Plunger.
What do you suggest, aside from voting?
Comment by Zimzone — August 17, 2006 @ 3:33 pm
Voting?
How quaint.
There won’t be any more voting.
Unless Cheney is arrested – he will oversee the next FALSE FLAG strike against the US Homeland before the elections, flying aircraft into nuclear containment vessels in three major US cities – creating the Chernobyl effect and necessitating Martial Law.
As for Iraq:
The chief beneficiary of the mess in Iraq has been Israel – not Iran.
Why?
Because The United States is being blackmailed by Israel to strike Iran with nuclear weapons. Israeli software is installed throught the most critical systems in the United States, and Israel quite literally controls our foreign policy agenda, which conveniently saves Bush from having one.
ISRAEL BLACKMAILS AMERICA
NUCLEAR WAR IMMINENT.
“PURE EVIL” Does A Deal With “THE DEVIL.”
PURE EVIL is Dick Cheney.
THE DEVIL is Israel’s Mossad.
THE DEAL was 9/11.
Cheney perceived the perfect partner in the perfect crime to be Israel’s Mossad. Cunning, ruthless, skilled, connected, covert – the “False Flag” experts.
As is now clear and agreed upon by all, the Bush Sr. / Cheney Administration (in which Shrub is merely a spokesperson and useful idiot) adopted the PNAC plan as its own. Cheney found within it the opportunity to capture vast resource-rich territory in a World War blamed on others, and thereby enrich himself and his friends.
9/11 proved not to be the perfect crime, and the co-conspirators actually got caught, and have been covering up their crime and silencing their “enemies” ever since.
Israel and Cheney were both caught red-handed on 9/11 itself.
Cheney was caught when Norm Minetta walked in on him in the midst of barking out the orders that allowed the A3 Skywarrior to strike the Pentagon without being shot down.
Israel’s Mossad was caught when their five agents were arrested after being observed celebrating and filming the impact and subsequent collapse of the Twin Towers. They weren’t just arrested, they had with them video taped evidence of themselves celebrating on camera as the towers fell (as would a demolitions team after a successful implosion).
These events are factual. They occurred.
The lengths to which the US and Israeli governments have gone to bury these and other historic events are evidence of their complicity in 9/11.
Cheney was wrong to have selected Israel as any kind of partner in crime. Israel was not going to be content to share the spoils of war, Israel wants ALL the spoils of war, and has at its disposal ALL of the tools and leverage to literally destroy the United States, and is in the midst of doing so right this very moment.
Why the silence from the Bush Administration with respect to Israel’s destruction and acquisition of territory?
BLACKMAIL – plain and simple.
Through Abramoff, Franklin, Lieberman, Chertoff and their thousands of moles within the US Government, in concert with their vast network of installed monitoring software, data retrieval and listening devices, Israel has compromised virtually every Administration official AS WELL AS nearly every US Senator and Congressman.
Israel has evidence of all of them accepting bribes, because Israel was behind the bribes and recorded evidence of all of it. Israel has evidence of sexual escapades out of wedlock, because Israel arranged for it, and documented it. Israel has direct evidence of the Administrations role in 9/11, because Israel partnered in it.
Israel controls the Mainstream US Media, and the Administration KNOWS IT.
As we speak, Israel is threatening the administration with the total exposure of their role in 9/11 if they even begin to interfere with Israel’s plan to take out not just Lebanon, but also Syria AND Iran, using NUCLEAR WEAPONS – all within the next ten days.
The bombs that we are rushed to Israel…the bunkerbusters to be delivered by the F-15s – are they nuclear?
If the US had any ACTUAL LEVERAGE or ability to slow down Israel’s mad territory grab and death machine, the least they would be doing is holding back delivery of bombs.
As with EVERY member of the Bush Administration, Condaleeza Rice has no power whatsoever over Israel. They’re blackmailing her too.
Israel has already accomplished its goal. It has completely compromised the integrity and security of the United States Of America. It is in total control of the US Treasury, Defense Department, Congress – every institution and branch of government.
The culture of corruption in Washington met its match in Israel. The co-conspirators thought they had an equal partner in crime, but they have now come to realize that this was a very long term and elaborate sting – for the ultimate prize – control of the United States Of America and its Nuclear Arsenal.
This is where we stand today. Literally everyone in Washington knows it. All of the retired Generals and Bush Senior advisors are on highest alert.
The Bush Administration is in the midst of the biggest disaster ever conceived, and unless they do EVERYTHING that Israel demands, the evidence of their crimes will be plastered across every major newspaper in the United States.
The Administration knows for a fact that Israel is going to nuke Iran and Syria. The only choice the Administration has to stop Israel from nuking these two countries, is to Nuke Israel itself. Even this though will not prevent the Truth of 9/11 from being revealed.
CHECKMATE.
Nuclear war is coming either way, and its coming right now.
“The Crazies” as Colin Powell referred to the Zionists, have won – and he personally enabled it.
“President Bush said to all of us: ‘I’m driven with a mission from God. ‘God would tell me, ‘George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan’.” “And I did, and then God would tell me, ‘George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq…’ And I did.
Secretary of State Rice’s response to the disaster in New Orleans was: “The Lord Jesus Christ is going to come on time.” She added: “If we just wait.” “On time”? How does Rice know the exact time Armageddon starts? “If we just waitâ€? That means in her, that is our, lifetime!
“At Church one day [Tom DeLay, House Majority Leader] listened as the pastor declared that ‘the war between America and Iraq is the gateway to the Apocalypse.’ DeLay rose to speak, not only to the congregation but to 225 Christian TV and radio stations. ‘Ladies and gentlemen,’ he said, ‘what has been spoken here tonight is the truth of God.’”
LESS THAN ONE MONTH AFTER 9/11:
“Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.” – Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.
Only by revealing the entire truth and arresting all of the guilty parties can the threat of Blackmail be removed.
.
August 17th, 2006 at 4:07 pmNO MA – WE ARE NOT THRILLED – WE ALREADY KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN – SO F*CK YOU! IF FOR ONE MINUTE YOU THINK I’M THRILLED ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN IRAQ – YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A BUSH LOYALISTS – NOTHING MORE – YOU FREAK!
August 17th, 2006 at 4:08 pmKindness – BE kind…Ronin Tetsuro is as great a prog as you are – - he has the right victimhood credentials and a chip on his shoulder as large as any malcontent here. In short…Turn your sarcasm detecting button ON….Ronin was ATTEMPTING to be sardonic. (Ronin, they’ll get to know your style after a while – they just pull the trigger a little quickly if they SUSPECT an ounce of moderation or conservatism….)
‘Til later…..
August 17th, 2006 at 4:10 pmPlunger, your perceived reality must be very depressing. If, as you suggest, nuclear war starts in 10 days, why on earth are you blogging on a progressive website about it. Don’t you have anything better to do in the last of your days. Wacko.
August 17th, 2006 at 4:14 pmIs Israel Blackmailing the US?
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=12648
Here’s what happened to the author of the above-linked article just two nights ago, when Mossad Agent Chertoff’s Goons showed up at his house:
Cops Arrest AFP Journalist Christopher Bollyn
Kurt Nimmo
August 16, 2006
“I was harassed, beaten, and shocked with a Tazer-like gun in my front yard before my wife and children, and then abused for 6 hours by the ADL-trained local police,” explains American Free Press journalist and Republic Broadcast Network talk show host Christopher Bollyn on the RBN website. “I have every reason to believe it is because of my journalistic investigation into 9/11. I have been threatened before in my career as a journalist, but this is the first time I have been intentionally beaten and abused—by the cops…. I intend to seek asylum in Norway or Switzerland. I can read the writing on the wall.”
Indeed, the writing is on the wall. In the neocon “you’re either with us or with the terrorists” political climate in America today, those who tell the truth are increasingly coming under the gun—or as in Bollyn’s case, under a Tazer. It is a short step from accusations of treason and appeasement of terrorists, who work for the government—or are simply retarded patsies set-up to take a fall—and the sort of violence practiced by the Nazis and their goons after Hitler pulled off his Gesetz zur Behebung der Not von Volk und Reich, or the Law to Remedy the Distress of the People and the Reich. Bush has come a long way in realizing his Ermächtigungsgesetz, or Enabling Act, and it won’t be long now before minor complaints are dealt with in severe fashion, as they always are under fascist dictatorships.
“And the administration has not only the right, but the duty, in my opinion, to pursue fifth column movements,” Senator Lindsey Graham told AG Gonzales earlier this year. “And let me tell folks who are watching what a fifth column movement is. It is a movement known to every war where American citizens will sympathize with the enemy and collaborate with the enemy. And it’s happened in every war…. and I don’t think you need a warrant to do that.”
According to the Manichean dictum of the neocons—you’re with us in the forever war against the Muslims, or you’re with the terrorists—revealing certain facts, as Bollyn has done over the years, may result in, for now, arrest and abuse. However, next month or next year, certainly after the next staged terror attack, it will result in far harsher, even fatal retaliation, as it invariably does in fascist countries.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m25819&l=i&size=1&hd=0
August 17th, 2006 at 4:18 pmIf Bush is thinking, no that’s wrong, Bush doesn’t think. If Bush is suggesting to look at an alternative to democracy in Iraq, what exactly is that alternative? Maybe this is where Bush crowns himself Emporer of the Middle East Oil Fields.
August 17th, 2006 at 4:19 pmThe only alternative we need to search for is how to transport the entire Bush Cabal into exile.
August 17th, 2006 at 4:19 pmMaDaschle – A little testy are we??? Perhaps you, the psychic, and plunger, the psychotic, could go take a “kindness” class….If you’re not happy, why did I detect a tiny smirk on your face when you read Payson’s copy????
I do have aserious question – HOW can GWB implement the diabolical plan plunger is obsessed with if he’s so stupid?? Maybe he’s the Manchurian candidate, plunger…..
August 17th, 2006 at 4:22 pmMarch 8, 1992: Raw US World Dominance Plan Is Leaked to the Media
The Defense Planning Guidance, “a blueprint for the department’s spending priorities in the aftermath of the first Gulf War and the collapse of the Soviet Union,†is leaked to the New York Times. [New York Times, 3/8/92; Newsday, 3/16/03] The document causes controversy, because it hadn’t yet been “scrubbed†to replace candid language with euphemisms. [New York Times, 3/11/92; Observer, 4/7/02; New York Times, 3/10/92] The document argues that the US dominates the world as sole superpower, and to maintain that role, it “must maintain the mechanisms for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role.†[New York Times, 3/8/92 (B); New York Times, 3/8/92] As the Observer summarizes it, “America’s friends are potential enemies. They must be in a state of dependence and seek solutions to their problems in Washington.†[Observer, 4/7/02]
The document is mainly written by Paul Wolfowitz and I. Lewis “Scooter†Libby, who hold relatively low posts at the time, but become deputy defense secretary and Vice President Cheney’s chief of staff, respectively, under George W. Bush. [Newsday, 3/16/03] The authors conspicuously avoid mention of collective security arrangements through the United Nations, instead suggesting the US “should expect future coalitions to be ad hoc assemblies, often not lasting beyond the crisis being confronted.†[New York Times, 3/8/92]
They call for “punishing†or “threatening punishment†against regional aggressors before they act. Interests to be defended preemptively include “access to vital raw materials, primarily Persian Gulf oil, proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles, [and] threats to US citizens from terrorism.†[Harper's, 10/02] Senator Lincoln Chafee (R) later says, “It is my opinion that [George W. Bush's] plan for preemptive strikes was formed back at the end of the first Bush administration with that 1992 report.†[Newsday, 3/16/03] In response to the controversy, US releases an updated version of the document in May 1992, which stresses that the US will work with the United Nations and its allies. [Washington Post, 5/24/92; Harper's, 10/02]
People and organizations involved: Lincoln Chafee, United States, Soviet Union, Lewis (”Scooter”) Libby, Paul Wolfowitz
January 1993: Cheney Releases New Global Domination Strategy
While still serving as Defense Secretary, Dick Cheney releases a documented titled “Defense Strategy for the 1990s,†in which he reasserts the plans for US global domination outlined in the Defense Policy Guide leaked to the press in March 1992 (see March 8, 1992). [Harper's, 10/02] Clinton’s inauguration as president later in the month precludes Cheney from actually implementing his plans.
People and organizations involved: Richard (”Dick”) Cheney
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&geopolitics_and_9/11=centralAsia
July 7, 1996: A Clean Break Outlines New Middle East Strategy for Israel
Richard Perle.
The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies, an Israeli think tank, publishes a paper entitled “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm.†[Chicago Sun-Times, 3/6/03] Lead author Richard Perle will later become chairman of President Bush’s influential Defense Policy Board. Several other co-authors will hold key positions in Washington after Bush’s election.
In the paper, Perle and his co-authors advise the new, right wing Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu to make a complete break with the past by adopting a strategy “based on an entirely new intellectual foundation, one that restores strategic initiative and provides the nation the room to engage every possible energy on rebuilding Zionism. …†The first step is to be the removal of Saddam Hussein in Iraq. A war with Iraq will destabilize the entire Middle East, allowing governments in Syria, Iran, Lebanon, and other countries to be replaced. “Israel will not only contain its foes; it will transcend them,†the paper concludes [Guardian, 9/3/02] , citing the original paper at [The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies, 7/8/96] .
Perle will be instrumental is moving Bush’s US policy toward war with Iraq after the 9/11 attacks.
People and organizations involved: Syria, Saddam Hussein, Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel, Iran, Lebanon, Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies, Richard Perle
Ted Koppel’s take:
August 17th, 2006 at 4:22 pmhttp://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2003/abcnews030503b.html
I do have aserious question – HOW can GWB implement the diabolical plan plunger is obsessed with if he’s so stupid?? Maybe he’s the Manchurian candidate, plunger…..
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 17, 2006 @ 4:22 pm
Clearly, Bush couldn’t “plan” his way out of a paper bag. He can’t even construct a sentence.
Anyone who believes he is in charge of anything is simply not dealing in reality.
Karl Rove INVENTED the White House Iraq Group (WHIG) for one purpose. TOTAL MESSAGE CONTROL.
Rove is a genious…an evil genious.
He can only be effective when he knows literally everything. He is the REALITY CREATION ARCHITECT.
At any given time he can take a set of actual facts and use each of them to stitch together a totally false reality.
Rove knew that the truth was the enemy of their conspiracy to conquer the Middle East (the PNAC plan). His job, every single day, is to convince you, me and the rest of the world that you didn’t just see and hear what you just saw and heard…or if you did, it doesn’t mean what your logical mind is attempting to tell you – because “we’re in a post-9/11 world now” and black is white.
Karl Rove is the single most destructive force in the US Government…the enabler of the entire evil scheme…THE ARCHITECT.
The scheme includes 9/11 as the essential pretext. “9/11″ … how clever, Karl! Only someone with American sensibilities would select the number we have all memorized to call in the event of life threatening emergency as the date for this evil….
KARL ROVE.
The war plan to invade Iraq was written BEFORE 9/11. The Secret Energy Task Force meetings that Cheney had with Ken Lay and the other OIL HOGS during which they all decided how to divide up the oil fields of the Middle East…all of that was BEFORE 9/11.
Now you see why Cheney insisted the substance of those talks remain SECRET.
All of their schemes and conspiracies REQUIRED 9/11 as the essential trigger.
Cheney outsourced the implementation of the FALSE FLAG OPERATION to Mossad…the FALSE FLAG experts. This explains why over 200 Mossad agents were operating in the United States prior to 9/11. This explains why five of them were arrested, having been observed filming the planes hitting the towers and their subsequent collapse – celebrating our worst nightmare.
9/11 was not a bad day for those involved in the Conspiracy. It was their shining moment…their PRETEXT.
One of them washed out…couldn’t cope with the guilt. Ari Fleisher had to be replaced, and disappeared. Not dead, but out of sight.
The outing of Plame was designed to destroy the best WMD intelligence the US had at its disposal regarding Iraq. Plame knew for a FACT that Iraq had no WMD. It was HER JOB to know. Therefore Rove perceived Plame (the truth) as his WORST ENEMY, and conceived of a plan to silence her. Rove is the individual who insisted that Wilson be sent to Niger.
GUARANTEED.
This was the only way to launch a smear program which appeared to be aimed at Wilson, but was intended solely to shut down the entire Brewster Jennings operation and bury their WMD evidence.
THAT IS ALL ROVE.
He invented WHIG:
The group’s members included Rove, Bush advisor Karen Hughes, Senior Advisor to the Vice President Mary Matalin, Deputy Director of Communications James Wilkinson, Assistant to the President and Legislative Liaison Nicholas Calio, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley and I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby.
Every single one of these individuals is a co-conspirator in a concerted effort to defraud America into committing its troops and its treasure to invade a foreign country to the sole benefit of BIG OIL AND ISRAEL.
The pending invasion of Iran is the next phase of the very same conspiracy. Karen Kwiatkowski let us know that Larry Franklin had set up an IRAN desk in the midst of the Pentagon’s IRAQ planners. Larry Franklin has pled guilty for passing Top Secret Iranian Intelligence to AIPAC (Israel). Israeli Generals were free to come and go from the Cheney/Rumsfeld Office Of Middle East Invasion whenever they pleased, without need to sign the guest register.
IT’S ALL THE SAME CONSPIRACY.
9/11 – Afghanistan – Iraq – Iran – Syria.
READ THE PNAC.
A “New Pearl Harbor” was a REQUIREMENT for its implementation.
Rove is running the entire PsyOps Machine to enable it.
Hang them for TREASON.
http://dailydocket.blogspot.com/2006/01/propaganda.html
But whereas Hitler was a true master of propaganda, and his minister a far less talented functionary, today the situation is reversed: our propaganda minister is the master, and our leader his functionary. Karl Rove is so confident of his strategy that he now announces it to the public! In January of this year,
Rove noted that we face “a ruthless enemy” and “need a commander in chief and a Congress who understand the nature of the threat and the gravity of the moment America finds itself in.”
Here’s more:
“[T]he people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”
— Karl Rove (oops!) Hermann Goering
August 17th, 2006 at 4:26 pmWhen it hits the fan for BushCo here, GWB will name himself King of Iraq in order to keep himself and his inner circle out of jail.
August 17th, 2006 at 4:29 pmThe administration’s new/old Iraq strategy: Redact and spin.
August 17th, 2006 at 4:33 pmAn alternative to democracy? Hmmm…that IS a problem. How could an Amurrikan govnment evah come up with such an idea? And…what would it look like?
Hey! I have a great idea! Why not, install a puppet autocratic dictator who is beholden to the Amurrikan Preznit and his co-conspi…uh I mean. .. the… uh.. administration AND their corporate cronys?
I know this would a a stretch for Amurrikkka (uhm…Saudi Arabia; uhm Egypt; uhm Iran; uhm Iraq; uhm Chile uhm… Argentina….uhm Columbia uhm El Salvador….NO WAIT!!!! Amurrikka would NEVER interfere in a soverign nation’s govment
Oh wait…
Whatcha wanna bet Chalabi (aka “Curveball”) gets tne nod?
August 17th, 2006 at 4:34 pmplunger – what are trying to do? Take away hope for a change? Listening to you, I might as well end it all right now. I’m sure there is some truth to what you post, but you are giving these traitors way too much credit.
These traitors are going to lose in the middle east… Iran has enough weapons to eliminate our Troops in Iraq and to blow up the oil fields in Iraq. There is no way in hell that China and Russia are going to sit by and let these traitors take over the oil. China has plenty of nukes, more than they are telling us. And what ever happened to all the nuclear material in Russia? No, Isreal is not the great power and the US is slowing losing is role as the World Leader. Bush and his traitor friends made sure of that. They miscalculated.
August 17th, 2006 at 4:42 pmDear plunger – We’ve been hearing the “celebrating Israelis” for over four years now. Funny thing, THIS conspiracy IS SOOOOO good, the only celebrants YOU can prove actually exist are Arabs and Muslims worldwide….You do know “they’re” tracking your computer, don’t you????
Gotta run – good luck plunger!
August 17th, 2006 at 4:43 pmGOP to U.S. voters: WE GOT NOTHING.
August 17th, 2006 at 4:58 pmHomer Simpson would be a better President than GW Bush. The man actually is more ignorant than a cartoon buffoon…
The man has NEVER been successful at anything. Ivy League schools don’t fail people. He graduated because he got in. He got in because of his Daddy. He couldn’t find oil in Texas. His marriage seems to be unravelling, and well, we have heard what a bad parent he is. The man has not been successful at one single thing. Unless you count failing, in which case he’s batting a thousand…
August 17th, 2006 at 5:05 pmHey maybe the administration could re-install Sadam, he seemed to be able to handle the country.
August 17th, 2006 at 5:09 pmGW got his own “shock and Awe” for his inane policies.
August 17th, 2006 at 5:14 pmMighty A: “HOW can GWB implement the diabolical plan plunger is obsessed with if he’s so stupid??”
Don’t you remember, Mighty. He’s the “MBA President!” He delegates.
August 17th, 2006 at 5:38 pmHEY MIGHT ASS: HEIL HITLER you freak!
August 17th, 2006 at 5:45 pmPLUNGER
I have known since 1994 that Bush was just a front man for all that was to occur. He was selected, while governor of Texas, to be the prez in 2000.
I cant say more at this time, but will in the future. I signed hundreds of documents agreeing not to reveal what I learned back then about Bush. I did the investigation, the front men that hired me was a San Francisco attorney firm.
I did not think they could pull it off so in 1999 I moved to Mexico and before I did I went to the executive safe deposit company where I had boxes of material and unfortunately for me, destroyed it all.
I was told in 1998 that Bush would be elected president in 2000 and that it was a sure thing. I did not believe it, shame on me, I just did not know who I was dealing with nor the reach of their tentacles.
August 17th, 2006 at 5:45 pmKKKARL ROVE – who’s hero is HITLER.
August 17th, 2006 at 5:47 pmsorry about all the nazi references, I just can’t help myself. I just saw Downfall last night, a film about Hitler’s last days in his bunker. The whole nationalism crap, all of it. I Swear it seemed all too familiar with what’s happening RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW!
August 17th, 2006 at 5:49 pmHey Sandy – INFORMATION CLEARINGHOUSE
August 17th, 2006 at 5:51 pmI would not for one minute compare Hitler to Bush – just his tactics – and not by bush, but by his HANDLERS. Hitler was far too brilliant to be compared to the dunce in office.
August 17th, 2006 at 5:53 pmI answered you sandy – information clearinghouse – go there, educate yourself.
August 17th, 2006 at 5:54 pmIn case anyone is curious, see attached. Is Bush Hitler? No. Are Bush’s tactics and those of Rove and the rethuglican party disturbingly similar? Yes.
August 17th, 2006 at 5:59 pmhttp://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/index.htm
“Bush has rationalized the Iraq war by arguing…”
BY LYING, ENDLESSLY.
If you bought the demockery, shame on you.
“There IS NO MORE IRAQ. There will be three territories.” — Kissinger, caught briefing his Saudi clients on THE REAL POLICY.
In early 2004.
You have had 2-1/2 years to adapt to the REALITY. When will that adaptation be accomplished?
TP apparently is still working through Morality Omission Accomplished.
These are CAPITAL WARCRIMES, not failed policies.
August 17th, 2006 at 6:01 pmIt looks like any day now they’ll put Saddam back in power. Say, oops, sorry about killing your sons, uh, and 50-100,000 of your people and uh, have a nice day.
August 17th, 2006 at 6:05 pmO, I thought that the “alternative” to Democracy was what they they have been implementing here in the U.S….startng out as: Fascism Lite
August 17th, 2006 at 6:09 pm#55 – “HEY MIGHT ASS: HEIL HITLER you freak!” – Comment by madashell
*****Dear MaDaschle – You poor dear,,,,Why don’t you have a seat on the bench next to plunger outside the meds room….put your slippers back on and a nurse will take you back to your room. If you like, you may hide under the covers until your meds kick in….
August 17th, 2006 at 6:18 pmRead up, Sandy, and learn something. The website has been provided. Learn for yourself.
August 17th, 2006 at 6:36 pmactually, be a free born American gives me the godamn right to do whatever the hell I want. (unless it’s conceal a handgun in my waist or let my 15 year old drive my tractor on the street, or buy a beer on a sunday or smoke a joint, etc.)
Comment by Manny’s Mission — August 17, 2006 @ 4:02 pm
The problem, Manny, is that “etc.” As far as Plunger’s statement about the next American Civil war…I would suggest you open your eyes and realize that there are many American’s who will NOT accept a dictatorship in this country. And if your ARE, then you are leaving such a world to those kids you want to take fishing. Pretty crappy inheritance, my friend.
August 17th, 2006 at 6:50 pmWhite House Searching For ‘Alternatives’ To Democracy In Iraq…hmmm
Oh well, guess they might as well.
God knows they’ve been searching for an alternative to it here in America for years now.
:|
August 17th, 2006 at 7:06 pmI’ve got a twofer suggestion.
August 17th, 2006 at 7:12 pmDon Rumsfeld for King of Iraq!
We get rid of him and they get a fearless leader…
“In light of the recent violence in the Middle East,†President Bush said recently, “some are questioning whether democracy can take root in the region. I believe that the Iraqi people are showing us their answer.â€
August 17th, 2006 at 7:13 pmAnd the answer that they are showing us is…
Up yours amerika!
Mighty Moron; No, we aren’t thrilled. WE TOLD you so before this bs war was started by Bushitler & his neo-nazi thugs.
August 17th, 2006 at 7:29 pm
WORFEUS c’mon you can do better than that! Pull out your fangs!
Comment by Dr One — August 17, 2006 @ 7:08 pm
Well? Its true isn’t it?
Hasn’t Mr Bush made it absolutely clear to everyone except the doltiest amongst us, that he has little time or paitence for our democratic form of government?
Hasn’t he been 100 percent forthcoming in openly dismissing our Constitution, and our way of governing ourselves?
Hasn’t he shown absolute disdain for the checks and balances of our government?
August 17th, 2006 at 7:32 pmBush thinks Congress has some “interesting suggestions”.
:|
He’s happy to “listen to what they have to say“.
He thinks a Supreme Court ruling is “important“.
And he’s happy to “take a look at it” when they rule on something.
:|
But in the end, he’s the decider.
Not the divider.
The Decider.
August 17th, 2006 at 7:35 pmNever mind everyone in the news on the right and the left agrees that right now our country is more divided then perhaps ever in our history.
He’s not a “divider”.
He’s the “Uniter”
And the Decider.
August 17th, 2006 at 7:37 pmHe’s the Entscheidener.
August 17th, 2006 at 7:39 pmSandy, Law & Order, whatever name you’re posting under now, this is my original message (below). And, no, it was not deleted. If you are interested in learning about the similarities to Bush’s tactics and Hitler’s tactics, click on the website and read. It’s easy. Click. Open Website. Read Website. Learn a thing or two. Try it. It’s fun to learn! And, by the way, your tone is beyond annoying. Chill, babe.
In case anyone is curious, see attached. Is Bush Hitler? No. Are Bush’s tactics and those of Rove and the rethuglican party disturbingly similar? Yes.http://www.historyplace.com/ worldwar2/ riseofhitler/ index.htm
Comment by Gay Bear — August 17, 2006 @ 5:59 pm
August 17th, 2006 at 7:41 pmTruth.
August 17th, 2006 at 7:46 pmOh yea MA.
We love you guys making a laughing stock out of us, killing 100,000 people and squandering more money than Paris Hilton with her daddies credit card at a Saks sale.
Its a joy.
August 17th, 2006 at 8:00 pmWe love seeing Iraqis killed enmasse and GIs coming home in body bags or with arms and legs blown off.
It a hoot.
August 17th, 2006 at 8:06 pm.
HITLER
The Reichstag Burns
Adolf Hitler, the new Chancellor of Germany, had no intention of abiding by the rules of democracy. He intended only to use those rules to legally establish himself as dictator as quickly as possible then begin the Nazi revolution.
Even before he was sworn in, he was at work to accomplish that goal by demanding new elections. While Hindenburg waited impatiently in another room, Hitler argued with conservative leader Hugenberg, who vehemently opposed the idea. Hitler’s plan was to establish a majority of elected Nazis in the Reichstag which would become a rubber stamp, passing whatever laws he desired while making it all perfectly legal.
Hitler’s storm troopers were about to reach new heights of power of their own and begin a reign of terror that would last as long as the Reich.
President Hindenburg had fallen under Hitler’s spell and was signing just about anything put in front of him. He signed an emergency decree that put the German state of Prussia into the hands of Hitler confidant, Vice Chancellor Papen. Göring as Minister of the Interior for Prussia took control of the police. Prussia was Germany’s biggest and most important state and included the capital of Berlin.
Göring immediately replaced hundreds of police officials loyal to the republic with Nazi officials loyal to Hitler. He also ordered the police not to interfere with the SA and SS under any circumstances. This meant that anybody being harassed, beaten, or even murdered by Nazis, had nobody to turn to for help.
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/burns.htm
BUSH:
POLICE LOOK ON AS HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICERS VIOLATE REPORTER’S CIVIL RIGHTS:
Arrest Of AFP Journalist Christopher Bollyn
Kurt Nimmo
August 16, 2006
“I was harassed, beaten, and shocked with a Tazer-like gun in my front yard before my wife and children, and then abused for 6 hours by the ADL-trained local police,†explains American Free Press journalist and Republic Broadcast Network talk show host Christopher Bollyn on the RBN website. “I have every reason to believe it is because of my journalistic investigation into 9/11. I have been threatened before in my career as a journalist, but this is the first time I have been intentionally beaten and abused—by the cops…. I intend to seek asylum in Norway or Switzerland. I can read the writing on the wall.â€
Indeed, the writing is on the wall. In the neocon “you’re either with us or with the terrorists†political climate in America today, those who tell the truth are increasingly coming under the gun—or as in Bollyn’s case, under a Tazer. It is a short step from accusations of treason and appeasement of terrorists, who work for the government—or are simply retarded patsies set-up to take a fall—and the sort of violence practiced by the Nazis and their goons after Hitler pulled off his Gesetz zur Behebung der Not von Volk und Reich, or the Law to Remedy the Distress of the People and the Reich. Bush has come a long way in realizing his Ermächtigungsgesetz, or Enabling Act, and it won’t be long now before minor complaints are dealt with in severe fashion, as they always are under fascist dictatorships.
“And the administration has not only the right, but the duty, in my opinion, to pursue fifth column movements,†Senator Lindsey Graham told AG Gonzales earlier this year. “And let me tell folks who are watching what a fifth column movement is. It is a movement known to every war where American citizens will sympathize with the enemy and collaborate with the enemy. And it’s happened in every war…. and I don’t think you need a warrant to do that.â€
According to the Manichean dictum of the neocons—you’re with us in the forever war against the Muslims, or you’re with the terrorists—revealing certain facts, as Bollyn has done over the years, may result in, for now, arrest and abuse. However, next month or next year, certainly after the next staged terror attack, it will result in far harsher, even fatal retaliation, as it invariably does in fascist countries.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m25819&l=i&size=1&hd=0
9/11 INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST
HARASSED AND BEATEN AT HIS HOME
BY UNDERCOVER COPS
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=91920
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August 17th, 2006 at 8:17 pmFor those partial to Christian “Revelation” beliefs, Rove fits the description of the False Prophet. Also identified as the second beast which arises out of the earth, and creates an image of the first beast (the Antichrist) and punishes those who won’t worshp this “image”. . (Rev. 13, 1-11) Read the book.
Incidently, the decision made by that judge today regarding the illegality of the NSA survellience program is not small potatoes. Watch it closely. Naturally, the administration will continue to appeal it upwards, but when the Supremes block them, they will NOT obey and give it up.
August 17th, 2006 at 8:22 pm“Thank goodness our friends and allies did not desert us during our civil war”.-comment by Mighty Aphrodite-August 3, 2006 @3:22 pm
August 17th, 2006 at 8:34 pm
*snort* Uncle Ho, you are relentless!
August 17th, 2006 at 8:43 pmHey Zooey, I said that I will continue to bitch-slap the moron around on this one til he/she/it admits to making up crap. I see that some others are also taking up the cause on some other threads over the last couple of days. All others feel free to jump right in.
August 17th, 2006 at 8:52 pmI should have added– “The more the merrier”
August 17th, 2006 at 8:59 pmZooey,
August 17th, 2006 at 10:18 pmCan you see this post?
will a journalist PLEASE before USA wreaks havoc on Cuba, ask George Bush what DEMOCRACY means? I think he has it confused with Capitalism. I hate to tell him, but capitalism and democracy are not synonymous
August 17th, 2006 at 10:45 pmHe means white Christian Corporate Rigged Elections, calling all political enemies terrorists, and Constitutions made of toilet paper, if his respect for the US form of government is any guide.
August 17th, 2006 at 11:38 pmRelax, they’re just looking for a way to set the bar low enough that a single improvement in this fiasco can be called ’success’. I wouldn’t read anything more into this than it being perceived as a desperate situation, which it is.
August 18th, 2006 at 12:36 amToo bad Bush doesn’t think democracy will still work at home!
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