It is the “moral equivalent of Nazi medical experiments on the inmates of death camps during World War II.” The result, he said, would be “new legions of humans to be enslaved and brutalized.”
I wonder if this is a concentrated effort from black Republicans to bring the black evangelical base firmly against stem cell research…
black Republican Michael Steele made similar comments earlier this year in front of the Baltimore Jewish Council, saying something to the effect of equating stem cell research to the holocaust, using a comparison to the Jewish suffering in Germany to that of blacks in America..
the remark was quickly retracted and billed as a “gaffe” but this comment from Keyes makes the comment appear more to be a coordinated strategy from the GOP
So nice of the right to denounce something that will help millions of Americanse, yet support dropping a nuclear weapon on Iran that will kill millions, which soundsa bit bit closer to the Nazis to me.
Since the blastocysts for stem cell research come from left-overs at fertility clinics, the only logical solution is to close down all fertility clinics. If God doesn’t want you to have children the “natural” way, why tempt God’s wrath by forcing your body to have one?
Stop stem cell research, close all fertility clinics!!!!
(I guess this type of message wouldn’t sit well with the radical-right-wing kool-aide drinkers.)
“new legions of humans to be enslaved and brutalized.â€
He’s totally missing the point. These new legions of humans could be used in capturing the world’s oil supply. This is an opportunity I’m sure will be part of PNAC.
Keyes completely marginalized himself by running against Obama, then became a joke when he got crushed by him. Add his gay daughter, and you have a completely useless public figure. Go away, Alan - no one cares.
As an aside, I’ve always wondered why books and such are called “Fiction” and “Non-Fiction”. Wouldn’t be better to call them “Truth” and “Non-Truth” or “Reality” and “Non-Reality”? Putting a prefix infront of word to indicate truth or fact seems wrong to me.
This just in from CrazyTown… wait, yes, I can , OK….
This just in from CrazyTown: Alan Keyes has escaped, I repeat, Alan Keyes, Mayor of CrazyTown, has escaped–he may be punditing even as I announce this. Please, if you hear Mayor Keyes speak, back away slowly and call the CrazyTown Police. They will send a padded van and some orderlies to round him up. DO NOT APPROACH MAYOR KEYES–HE HAS ARMS AND IS CRAZY.
“new legions of humans to be enslaved and brutalized.â€
Obviously he was saying this to demonize the liberals. I highly doubt that Neo-Cons are at all alarmed at this possibility. I’d be less suprised if there were people in this Administration that heard this and started stroking their metaphorical beards thoughtfully.
When Keyes says “new legions of humans to be enslaved and brutalizedâ€, I assume he’s implying that the “old legions” would be those that have been brutalized by the Bush administration. Sounds about right.
Hwang Woo-Suk (of faked embryonic stem cell research fame) - I am going to clone pigs and want to do embryonic stem cell research again.
“Many of us feel that for the next few years the most rational way forward is not to try to push [embryonic stem] cell therapies,†Thomas M. Jessell, a neurobiologist at Columbia University Medical Center in an interview with the New York Times this week.
Christopher E. Henderson, a neurobiologist at Columbia University Medical Center, says scientists though embryonic stem cell research would produce cures but they have realized it’s not happening like they hoped.
He told the NY Times, “We all thought cell therapy first, then many of us realized there were a lot of hurdles to be crossed before that.”
…and living zombies will walk the earth feasting on the flesh of running, screaming humans before Satan himself will rise from the gaping abyss engulfing the planet in horror and chaos where his armies of death will consume every living thing.
I call on everyone to breed with their sisters and mothers and unite against this unholy abortion known as “science”!
When was the last time anyone was able to “FREEZE” a humna being? I rest my case. If it is a HUMAN then it cannot be forzen and brought back to “life.”
I understand what the bill said that Bush vetoed. But consider the commercial manufacture of stem cells from human sperm and eggs. One has to admit there are real ethical issues here. Say the chemical industry could manufacture stem cells by the hundreds of thousands to test the carcinogenic potential of a new pesticide formulas. Is this OK? At what age must the embryos be destroyed?
Shall we accept zero regard for all human stem cells?
Do we see nothing exceptional in a human stem cell?
Is wanton “dehumanization” of the stem cell what we really want?
Take a visit to a slaughterhouse. Should we treat stem cells better than we do those cows? Why?
Mank, embryos which are at a later stage than these blasocysts are routinely destroyed because they fail to attach to the uterine wall. So nature does this to at least 40% of the embryos which have been fertilized. Millions of them are lost every day. So, I would draw the line somewhere before this point, which is where these blastocysts are. In addition, fertility clinics routinely destroy embryos and nobody has a problem with that. So, if you’re troubled by the implications of embryonic research, you should also be troubled by fertility clinics.
I wonder if Mr. Keyes believed that stem cell research had the potential to someday eradicate the so-called “Gay Gene”, if he would then have a different opinion of the “moraliy” of stem cell research? Hmmm…
#Cyra Brown,
Eliminating the “gay gene” would be a touchy subject for Keyes. He or his wife must carry it, as one of their daughters has turned out to be a lesbian.
Did any of you read the link? Keyes was speaking (being paid $2500) for Senator Jim Talent (R-MO) who is running again. Read the “Let’s be fair” and “Silence is weakness” comments on the link, which have further links. Very interesting.
Keys is speaking about Embryonic Stem Cell research, not stem cell research in general. Adult Stem Cell research has already been used with fantastic results in many cases. Embryonic stem cell research, however, has not made it out of the petrie dishes successfully. In the few experiments, so far, it has failed miserably. Keys, as does Bush, as do Christians have no issues with Adult Stem Cell research……and it is the only research, at present, that is showing any promise.
It’s murder, too. According to the shrub.
August 18th, 2006 at 11:30 amAlan Who?
August 18th, 2006 at 11:33 amShucks, Alan, if you weren’t such a douchebag, people might listen to you.
August 18th, 2006 at 11:34 amLegions of humans to be enslaved and brutalized? That makes the reichwing salivate. Full steam ahead on that one.
August 18th, 2006 at 11:35 amSad that from all his experiences and education, he’s learned nothing. He’s such a loser.
August 18th, 2006 at 11:36 amPlease, please, please get more of these crazies out there.
They bring Alan Keyes into Illinois, from Maryland, to run against Obama.
He got one of the lowest votes in recent history.
This only highlights how far the Republican party has given in to the radical right, evangelicals.
The more they start to lose because of these folks the better off the country will be as a whole.
August 18th, 2006 at 11:37 amHis 15 minutes expired a long time ago.
August 18th, 2006 at 11:42 amWhat a moron.
August 18th, 2006 at 11:46 amThis sounds like a Star Wars episode to me.
August 18th, 2006 at 11:47 amnew legions of humans to be enslaved and brutalized.â€
Man, I sure do love that Science Fiction stuff! Anyone read a good Michael Crichton novel, lately?
August 18th, 2006 at 11:48 amThis sounds like a Star Wars episode to me.
Comment by Skeptic — August 18, 2006 @ 11:47 am
Genius
August 18th, 2006 at 11:51 amHuman-Animal-Vegetable Hybrid
August 18th, 2006 at 11:52 amI think someone is asleep at the wheel at TP.
August 18th, 2006 at 11:53 amI wonder if this is a concentrated effort from black Republicans to bring the black evangelical base firmly against stem cell research…
black Republican Michael Steele made similar comments earlier this year in front of the Baltimore Jewish Council, saying something to the effect of equating stem cell research to the holocaust, using a comparison to the Jewish suffering in Germany to that of blacks in America..
the remark was quickly retracted and billed as a “gaffe” but this comment from Keyes makes the comment appear more to be a coordinated strategy from the GOP
here’s a campaign ad about Steele’s similar comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RBzPBsv7NA
if you’d like to find his precise quote I think it is on http://www.therealsteele.com
August 18th, 2006 at 11:55 amSo nice of the right to denounce something that will help millions of Americanse, yet support dropping a nuclear weapon on Iran that will kill millions, which soundsa bit bit closer to the Nazis to me.
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August 18th, 2006 at 11:55 amThe result, he said, would be “new legions of humans to be enslaved and brutalized.â€
hahaha, I read alot of science fiction, but I never confuse it with real life.
August 18th, 2006 at 11:56 amtoo funny.
Keyes was always such a mental midget, though.
There are already are legions programmed, enslaved and brutalized. That would be 38% of Americans.
August 18th, 2006 at 11:57 amSorry about one too many are’s
August 18th, 2006 at 11:57 amYa we can have all those embryoes out there working like slaves in the star bucks making our coffee! Heil Caffine!
August 18th, 2006 at 11:59 amSince the blastocysts for stem cell research come from left-overs at fertility clinics, the only logical solution is to close down all fertility clinics. If God doesn’t want you to have children the “natural” way, why tempt God’s wrath by forcing your body to have one?
Stop stem cell research, close all fertility clinics!!!!
(I guess this type of message wouldn’t sit well with the radical-right-wing kool-aide drinkers.)
August 18th, 2006 at 12:02 pmTo enhance his kowledge on stem cell research, Mr. Keyes has been reading “A Brave New World”.
Like others on his side of the political spectrum, Mr. Keyes has a hard time telling the difference between science and fiction.
August 18th, 2006 at 12:02 pm“new legions of humans to be enslaved and brutalized.â€
He’s totally missing the point. These new legions of humans could be used in capturing the world’s oil supply. This is an opportunity I’m sure will be part of PNAC.
August 18th, 2006 at 12:13 pmKeyes completely marginalized himself by running against Obama, then became a joke when he got crushed by him. Add his gay daughter, and you have a completely useless public figure. Go away, Alan - no one cares.
August 18th, 2006 at 12:15 pmSome might say that Alan Keyes is a drama queen.
August 18th, 2006 at 12:19 pmAs an aside, I’ve always wondered why books and such are called “Fiction” and “Non-Fiction”. Wouldn’t be better to call them “Truth” and “Non-Truth” or “Reality” and “Non-Reality”? Putting a prefix infront of word to indicate truth or fact seems wrong to me.
August 18th, 2006 at 12:21 pmHaha, who really cares what Alan Keyes has to say about anything? He’s one crazy s.o.b. Let’s just let him rot away in his own little psychotic mind.
August 18th, 2006 at 12:28 pmShut up, Alan. Keep your moronic opinions to yourself.
August 18th, 2006 at 12:30 pmThis just in from CrazyTown… wait, yes, I can , OK….
This just in from CrazyTown: Alan Keyes has escaped, I repeat, Alan Keyes, Mayor of CrazyTown, has escaped–he may be punditing even as I announce this. Please, if you hear Mayor Keyes speak, back away slowly and call the CrazyTown Police. They will send a padded van and some orderlies to round him up. DO NOT APPROACH MAYOR KEYES–HE HAS ARMS AND IS CRAZY.
August 18th, 2006 at 12:47 pmHere one person’s view that I find interesting
August 18th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
oops
August 18th, 2006 at 12:50 pmDamn it anyways - http://www.fuckthesouth.com/
August 18th, 2006 at 12:50 pmI’m not really interested in the “moral” concerns of Alan, he basically dishoned his lesbian daughter.
August 18th, 2006 at 12:50 pmBut families using the same science to conceive children when they could just adopt, that’s good wholesome family values!
They get more insane by the day, I swear…
August 18th, 2006 at 12:59 pmI can at least /see/ where murder would come from… but nazi medical experiments? He needs serious mental help.
August 18th, 2006 at 1:15 pmIf destroying blasocysts is murder, then God is the biggest mass murder of all time.
August 18th, 2006 at 1:37 pmOh my god, animal-human hybrid soldiers for Iraq, the republofascists should be all in favor of this.
August 18th, 2006 at 1:39 pm“new legions of humans to be enslaved and brutalized.â€
Obviously he was saying this to demonize the liberals. I highly doubt that Neo-Cons are at all alarmed at this possibility. I’d be less suprised if there were people in this Administration that heard this and started stroking their metaphorical beards thoughtfully.
August 18th, 2006 at 1:46 pmWow, what an insane thing to say. This link may help explain where Alan is and why he is saying these things.
August 18th, 2006 at 2:20 pm
When Keyes says “new legions of humans to be enslaved and brutalizedâ€, I assume he’s implying that the “old legions” would be those that have been brutalized by the Bush administration. Sounds about right.
August 18th, 2006 at 2:26 pmI’d consider the source on this one…Alan Keyes? Please…
August 18th, 2006 at 3:26 pmHow about some other crazy quotes:
Hwang Woo-Suk (of faked embryonic stem cell research fame) - I am going to clone pigs and want to do embryonic stem cell research again.
“Many of us feel that for the next few years the most rational way forward is not to try to push [embryonic stem] cell therapies,†Thomas M. Jessell, a neurobiologist at Columbia University Medical Center in an interview with the New York Times this week.
Christopher E. Henderson, a neurobiologist at Columbia University Medical Center, says scientists though embryonic stem cell research would produce cures but they have realized it’s not happening like they hoped.
He told the NY Times, “We all thought cell therapy first, then many of us realized there were a lot of hurdles to be crossed before that.”
August 18th, 2006 at 3:29 pm…and living zombies will walk the earth feasting on the flesh of running, screaming humans before Satan himself will rise from the gaping abyss engulfing the planet in horror and chaos where his armies of death will consume every living thing.
I call on everyone to breed with their sisters and mothers and unite against this unholy abortion known as “science”!
August 18th, 2006 at 3:39 pmDoes he also call an apple seed an apple tree?
These absolutists aren’t just color blind, but obviously are ’shades of grey’ blind as well… Sheesh!
August 18th, 2006 at 3:51 pmWhen was the last time anyone was able to “FREEZE” a humna being? I rest my case. If it is a HUMAN then it cannot be forzen and brought back to “life.”
August 18th, 2006 at 4:07 pmDevil’s advocate here…
I understand what the bill said that Bush vetoed. But consider the commercial manufacture of stem cells from human sperm and eggs. One has to admit there are real ethical issues here. Say the chemical industry could manufacture stem cells by the hundreds of thousands to test the carcinogenic potential of a new pesticide formulas. Is this OK? At what age must the embryos be destroyed?
Shall we accept zero regard for all human stem cells?
August 18th, 2006 at 5:50 pmDo we see nothing exceptional in a human stem cell?
Is wanton “dehumanization” of the stem cell what we really want?
Take a visit to a slaughterhouse. Should we treat stem cells better than we do those cows? Why?
Mank, embryos which are at a later stage than these blasocysts are routinely destroyed because they fail to attach to the uterine wall. So nature does this to at least 40% of the embryos which have been fertilized. Millions of them are lost every day. So, I would draw the line somewhere before this point, which is where these blastocysts are. In addition, fertility clinics routinely destroy embryos and nobody has a problem with that. So, if you’re troubled by the implications of embryonic research, you should also be troubled by fertility clinics.
August 18th, 2006 at 6:09 pmI wonder if Mr. Keyes believed that stem cell research had the potential to someday eradicate the so-called “Gay Gene”, if he would then have a different opinion of the “moraliy” of stem cell research? Hmmm…
August 19th, 2006 at 1:29 am#Cyra Brown,
August 19th, 2006 at 5:08 amEliminating the “gay gene” would be a touchy subject for Keyes. He or his wife must carry it, as one of their daughters has turned out to be a lesbian.
Did any of you read the link? Keyes was speaking (being paid $2500) for Senator Jim Talent (R-MO) who is running again. Read the “Let’s be fair” and “Silence is weakness” comments on the link, which have further links. Very interesting.
August 19th, 2006 at 11:20 amKeys is speaking about Embryonic Stem Cell research, not stem cell research in general. Adult Stem Cell research has already been used with fantastic results in many cases. Embryonic stem cell research, however, has not made it out of the petrie dishes successfully. In the few experiments, so far, it has failed miserably. Keys, as does Bush, as do Christians have no issues with Adult Stem Cell research……and it is the only research, at present, that is showing any promise.
August 27th, 2006 at 10:05 pm