Comments on: Alan Keyes on embryonic stem cell research: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:57:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Steve Inman http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-758348 Steve Inman Mon, 28 Aug 2006 02:05:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-758348 Keys is speaking about Embryonic Stem Cell research, not stem cell research in general. Adult Stem Cell research has already been used with fantastic results in many cases. Embryonic stem cell research, however, has not made it out of the petrie dishes successfully. In the few experiments, so far, it has failed miserably. Keys, as does Bush, as do Christians have no issues with Adult Stem Cell research......and it is the only research, at present, that is showing any promise. Keys is speaking about Embryonic Stem Cell research, not stem cell research in general. Adult Stem Cell research has already been used with fantastic results in many cases. Embryonic stem cell research, however, has not made it out of the petrie dishes successfully. In the few experiments, so far, it has failed miserably. Keys, as does Bush, as do Christians have no issues with Adult Stem Cell research……and it is the only research, at present, that is showing any promise.

]]> By: Impeachcheneythenbush http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-740307 Impeachcheneythenbush Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:20:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-740307 Did any of you read the link? Keyes was speaking (being paid $2500) for Senator Jim Talent (R-MO) who is running again. Read the "Let's be fair" and "Silence is weakness" comments on the link, which have further links. Very interesting. Did any of you read the link? Keyes was speaking (being paid $2500) for Senator Jim Talent (R-MO) who is running again. Read the “Let’s be fair” and “Silence is weakness” comments on the link, which have further links. Very interesting.

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-740038 Lora Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:08:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-740038 #Cyra Brown, Eliminating the "gay gene" would be a touchy subject for Keyes. He or his wife must carry it, as one of their daughters has turned out to be a lesbian. #Cyra Brown,
Eliminating the “gay gene” would be a touchy subject for Keyes. He or his wife must carry it, as one of their daughters has turned out to be a lesbian.

]]> By: Cyra Brown http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-739937 Cyra Brown Sat, 19 Aug 2006 05:29:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-739937 I wonder if Mr. Keyes believed that stem cell research had the potential to someday eradicate the so-called "Gay Gene", if he would then have a different opinion of the "moraliy" of stem cell research? Hmmm... I wonder if Mr. Keyes believed that stem cell research had the potential to someday eradicate the so-called “Gay Gene”, if he would then have a different opinion of the “moraliy” of stem cell research? Hmmm…

]]> By: Bluedog49 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-739010 Bluedog49 Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:09:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-739010 Mank, embryos which are at a later stage than these blasocysts are routinely destroyed because they fail to attach to the uterine wall. So nature does this to at least 40% of the embryos which have been fertilized. Millions of them are lost every day. So, I would draw the line somewhere before this point, which is where these blastocysts are. In addition, fertility clinics routinely destroy embryos and nobody has a problem with that. So, if you're troubled by the implications of embryonic research, you should also be troubled by fertility clinics. Mank, embryos which are at a later stage than these blasocysts are routinely destroyed because they fail to attach to the uterine wall. So nature does this to at least 40% of the embryos which have been fertilized. Millions of them are lost every day. So, I would draw the line somewhere before this point, which is where these blastocysts are. In addition, fertility clinics routinely destroy embryos and nobody has a problem with that. So, if you’re troubled by the implications of embryonic research, you should also be troubled by fertility clinics.

]]> By: TheMank http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738984 TheMank Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:50:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738984 Devil's advocate here... I understand what the bill said that Bush vetoed. But consider the commercial <em>manufacture </em> of stem cells from human sperm and eggs. One has to admit there are real ethical issues here. Say the chemical industry could manufacture stem cells by the hundreds of thousands to test the carcinogenic potential of a new pesticide formulas. Is this OK? At what age <em>must </em> the embryos be destroyed? Shall we accept <strong>zero </strong> regard for all human stem cells? Do we see <strong>nothing </strong> exceptional in a human stem cell? Is wanton "dehumanization" of the stem cell what we really want? Take a visit to a slaughterhouse. Should we treat stem cells better than we do those cows? Why? Devil’s advocate here…

I understand what the bill said that Bush vetoed. But consider the commercial manufacture of stem cells from human sperm and eggs. One has to admit there are real ethical issues here. Say the chemical industry could manufacture stem cells by the hundreds of thousands to test the carcinogenic potential of a new pesticide formulas. Is this OK? At what age must the embryos be destroyed?

Shall we accept zero regard for all human stem cells?
Do we see nothing exceptional in a human stem cell?
Is wanton “dehumanization” of the stem cell what we really want?
Take a visit to a slaughterhouse. Should we treat stem cells better than we do those cows? Why?

]]> By: Wretched Refuse http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738782 Wretched Refuse Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:07:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738782 When was the last time anyone was able to "FREEZE" a humna being? I rest my case. If it is a HUMAN then it cannot be forzen and brought back to "life." When was the last time anyone was able to “FREEZE” a humna being? I rest my case. If it is a HUMAN then it cannot be forzen and brought back to “life.”

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738732 unbelievable Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:51:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738732 Does he also call an apple seed an apple tree? These absolutists aren't just color blind, but obviously are 'shades of grey' blind as well... Sheesh! Does he also call an apple seed an apple tree?

These absolutists aren’t just color blind, but obviously are ’shades of grey’ blind as well… Sheesh!

]]> By: Freedom Hater http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738701 Freedom Hater Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:39:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738701 ...and living zombies will walk the earth feasting on the flesh of running, screaming humans before Satan himself will rise from the gaping abyss engulfing the planet in horror and chaos where his armies of death will consume every living thing. I call on everyone to breed with their sisters and mothers and unite against this unholy abortion known as "science"! …and living zombies will walk the earth feasting on the flesh of running, screaming humans before Satan himself will rise from the gaping abyss engulfing the planet in horror and chaos where his armies of death will consume every living thing.

I call on everyone to breed with their sisters and mothers and unite against this unholy abortion known as “science”!

]]> By: Steven Ertelt http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738672 Steven Ertelt Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:29:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738672 How about some other crazy quotes: Hwang Woo-Suk (of faked embryonic stem cell research fame) - I am going to clone pigs and want to do embryonic stem cell research again. “Many of us feel that for the next few years the most rational way forward is not to try to push [embryonic stem] cell therapies,” Thomas M. Jessell, a neurobiologist at Columbia University Medical Center in an interview with the New York Times this week. Christopher E. Henderson, a neurobiologist at Columbia University Medical Center, says scientists though embryonic stem cell research would produce cures but they have realized it's not happening like they hoped. He told the NY Times, “We all thought cell therapy first, then many of us realized there were a lot of hurdles to be crossed before that." How about some other crazy quotes:

Hwang Woo-Suk (of faked embryonic stem cell research fame) – I am going to clone pigs and want to do embryonic stem cell research again.

“Many of us feel that for the next few years the most rational way forward is not to try to push [embryonic stem] cell therapies,” Thomas M. Jessell, a neurobiologist at Columbia University Medical Center in an interview with the New York Times this week.

Christopher E. Henderson, a neurobiologist at Columbia University Medical Center, says scientists though embryonic stem cell research would produce cures but they have realized it’s not happening like they hoped.

He told the NY Times, “We all thought cell therapy first, then many of us realized there were a lot of hurdles to be crossed before that.”

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738660 Zooey Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:26:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738660 I'd consider the source on this one...<em>Alan Keyes? Please...</em> I’d consider the source on this one…Alan Keyes? Please…

]]> By: Willy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738474 Willy Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:26:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738474 When Keyes says “new legions of humans to be enslaved and brutalized”, I assume he's implying that the "old legions" would be those that have been brutalized by the Bush administration. Sounds about right. When Keyes says “new legions of humans to be enslaved and brutalized”, I assume he’s implying that the “old legions” would be those that have been brutalized by the Bush administration. Sounds about right.

]]> By: sarah http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738450 sarah Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:20:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738450 Wow, what an insane thing to say. This link may help explain where Alan is and why he is saying these things. <a href="http://tzone.the-croc.com/sounds/twiltzon.mid" rel="nofollow"></a> Wow, what an insane thing to say. This link may help explain where Alan is and why he is saying these things.

]]> By: Ronin Tetsuro http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738318 Ronin Tetsuro Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:46:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738318 “new legions of humans to be enslaved and brutalized.” Obviously he was saying this to demonize the liberals. I highly doubt that Neo-Cons are at all alarmed at this possibility. I'd be less suprised if there were people in this Administration that heard this and started stroking their metaphorical beards thoughtfully. “new legions of humans to be enslaved and brutalized.”

Obviously he was saying this to demonize the liberals. I highly doubt that Neo-Cons are at all alarmed at this possibility. I’d be less suprised if there were people in this Administration that heard this and started stroking their metaphorical beards thoughtfully.

]]> By: bones http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738300 bones Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:39:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738300 Oh my god, animal-human hybrid soldiers for Iraq, the republofascists should be all in favor of this. Oh my god, animal-human hybrid soldiers for Iraq, the republofascists should be all in favor of this.

]]> By: Bluedog49 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738295 Bluedog49 Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:37:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738295 If destroying blasocysts is murder, then God is the biggest mass murder of all time. If destroying blasocysts is murder, then God is the biggest mass murder of all time.

]]> By: Jake3988 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738260 Jake3988 Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:15:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738260 I can at least /see/ where murder would come from... but nazi medical experiments? He needs serious mental help. I can at least /see/ where murder would come from… but nazi medical experiments? He needs serious mental help.

]]> By: Parrotlover77 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738206 Parrotlover77 Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:59:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738206 But families using the same science to conceive children when they could just adopt, that's good wholesome family values! They get more insane by the day, I swear... But families using the same science to conceive children when they could just adopt, that’s good wholesome family values!

They get more insane by the day, I swear…

]]> By: onthefence http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738185 onthefence Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:50:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738185 I'm not really interested in the "moral" concerns of Alan, he basically dishoned his lesbian daughter. I’m not really interested in the “moral” concerns of Alan, he basically dishoned his lesbian daughter.

]]> By: Yikes http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/comment-page-1/#comment-738184 Yikes Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:50:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/18/alan-keyes-on-embryonic-stem-cell-research/#comment-738184 Damn it anyways - http://www.fuckthesouth.com/ Damn it anyways – http://www.fuckthesouth.com/

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