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“I don’t believe terrorists favor

By Amanda Terkel on Aug 19th, 2006 at 12:23 pm

“I don’t believe terrorists favor

Democrats or Republicans. … What they are waiting for is the United States to prematurely pull out of Iraq. There are appeasers in both parties but most are leading liberal Democrats,” said Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT), trying to clarify his earlier comments that Middle East terrorists are “waiting for the Democrats here to take control.”



89 Responses to ““I don’t believe terrorists favor”

  1. GSD says:

    Orrin Hatch: America Idiot.

    If Al Qaeda was going to “wait” until Democrats were elected, what explains for the allegedly “foiled” plot to blow up jetliners over the Atlantic that we heard about last week?

    Apparently Al Qaeda was emboldened by the all Republican Whitehouse and Congress.

    -GSD


  2. Zooey says:

    Orrin Hatch,

    Keep talking, old man, just keep talking. You’ll talk yourself right out of office — soon, I hope.


  3. km4 says:

    “How Right-Wingers See the New York Times” page

    http://rightwingnytimes.cf.huffingtonpost.com/


  4. Krazny says:

    Horse puckys, he totally wants the base to believe that Al Qaeda supports dems, not much left except fear. Already blew there was on gay marriage, stem cell research, and gay marriage. And the abortion issue is ways off. Of course there is warrantless wiretapping appeal, but how long can that be strung out?


  5. theroachman says:

    Egads

    This guy is really loosing it. To bad he is not up for re-election. But for his sake its good thing that the Salt Lake City Mayor is pro Bush (snark!)


  6. And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid. says:

    The terrorists have been emboldened by the completely incompetent Republican leadership of this country — the same leadership that allowed the 9/11 attacks to occur on our soil. The facts show that terrorist organizations are stronger now than ever. Thanks go to Orrin Hatch, President Bush, and the rest of the incompetent sell-outs for making our country more vulnerable while lining their pockets with taxpayer money.


  7. Ben says:

    This isn’t a game! And it isn’t funny anymore! I think the American people are really sick of these assholes PLAYING politics with terrorism.

    Ben


  8. Cheney/Voldemort 2008 Campaign HQ says:

    Will these Republican Bushtards get it through their thick skulls that America just isn’t buying the Karl Rove line that Democrats are bad on defense! The majority of Americans (that’s majority, not plurality) prefer Democrats on defense, and at least a dozen other issues!


  9. g says:

    Terrorist favor the republican plan of spending all our money in an arms race like the cold war. we are fighting like the soviets and we’re gonna lose if we dont change direction. We need to stop giving all our money to defense spending and to the republican campaign contributors like haliburton. We need to redeploy and start fighting the war on terrorism.


  10. Adam Baum says:

    If you set a deadline in Iraq, the terrorists and the Iranian backed Shite militias will just wait it out and then take over the country when we leave. Iraq will become a satilite of Iran. That certainly wouldn’t make us any safer.


  11. Theo says:

    Republicans are just pissed that they so closely tried to link Iraq to the war on terror that now everyone thinks they don’t know how to fight on the war on terror. And they’d be right.
    To paraphrase Marvin the Martian, “ooh, that makes them so angry.”


  12. Adam Baum says:

    The majority of Americans (that’s majority, not plurality) prefer Democrats on defense, and at least a dozen other issues!

    You can get any response you want out of a poll. It just depends how you ask the question. What matters is what happens on election day, and in that respect Republicans have been winning.


  13. Adam Baum says:

    Keep talking, old man, just keep talking. You’ll talk yourself right out of office — soon, I hope.

    In Utah? Hatch would never lose there.


  14. theroachman says:

    9) If the US stays they are screwed. The US is military is a lighting rod for terrorist. Remove the US troops now. War in Iraq = Total Failure = The Republican Party.


  15. Adam Baum says:

    The terrorists have been emboldened by the completely incompetent Republican leadership of this country

    The terrorists will be emblodened if we cut and run from Iraq. They prey on weakness.


  16. Adam Baum says:

    I think the American people are really sick of these assholes PLAYING politics with terrorism.

    Right after the London plot was foiled the Dems rushed out with a fresh web ad to try and exploit it politically.


  17. Krazny says:

    Adam,

    Placing a Shia majority in charge of the country was the first step to aligning Iraq with Iran. Expecting Iraq to produce a unity government, out of the current divisions, was a huge underestimation. Frankly the presence of US troops, will not make a difference if the country does devolve into complete civil war, and having 150,000 soldiers being targetted by everyone, will not help.


  18. theroachman says:

    11) You can get any response you want out of a poll

    You sure can but Bush can’t seem to get back over 35% no matter how many fake terrorists with imaginary liquid bombs he claims to have arrested.


  19. Adam Baum says:

    We need to redeploy and start fighting the war on terrorism.

    Why redeploy? We’re fighting the war on terror in Iraq and many other places.


  20. Theo says:

    The terrorists were “emboldened” the minute we invaded, you idiot.
    Anyone who could remember recent history – the Soviet invasion and inevitable departure of Afghanistan – knew how Iraq was going to go.
    Soviet Afghanistan, Vietnam…pick your comparison. In each case, it’s just a question of when we can put aside our military’s inflated ego and get out.


  21. theroachman says:

    What did Adam find the missing link between Sadam and Osama been forgotten? Or may be he knows were the WMD are? You know Adam that Iraq has to import oil? Wow that war against everyone who disagrees with bush is going well isn’t it?


  22. you got islamofascism in my christofascism says:

    The terrorist plan was to “sting” us (911), get us to come over there and pin us down in a quagmire where they could kill us every day, refine their techniques against our troops and use our presence to recruit more killers. W has played right into their hands on every level. The party that did nothing when warned about al qaeda by the Clinton administration and let Osama go at Tora Bora now poses as the effective defense against terrorism.


  23. Clyde the Ripper says:

    Let us assume, for the sake of argument, that Senator Hatch is correct in what he says and he has first-hand knowledge of the “Middle East Terrorists” and their wants, desires, and plans. I would suggest that if the above is true then the fool is guilty of treason for aiding and abetting an enemy of this Country. If he has the knowledge he is required, by law, to pass that knowledge on to the proper authorities. If he does not have first-hand knowledge as his statements would lead us to believe then he is just another lying Rethuglican. Why does that not surprise any of us?


  24. Above the Clouds says:

    Any demonizing Democrats’ “plans” for Iraq at this point is a GOP ploy attempting to distract folks from the failed Bush Middle East policies. Bush failed in Iraq and he has no plan to “fix it.” Ken Mehlman saying we are “Adapting to win” tanked. Bush has made “Republican” a tough brand to sell in November.


  25. Clyde the Ripper says:

    The whole damn world except for the 33% of the population of this Country proven to be fools, is waiting for the Democrats to take over. So, at least, Hatch has part of it right.


  26. theroachman says:

    If Sen. Hatch has first hand knowlage of Terrorist plans that either makes him one of the Terrorist or he as commeted a crime for letting the terrorist know that the US is onto them so the terrorist now will changer their plans. Thanks Sen Hatch


  27. tablogloid says:

    Terrorists do not distinguish Americans by political party. All Americans are the targets of Al Quaeda. It makes no difference who is in the Executive Office or who controls Congress


  28. GSD says:

    “The terrorists have been emboldened by the completely incompetent Republican leadership of this country

    The terrorists will be emblodened if we cut and run from Iraq. They prey on weakness.

    Comment by Adam Baum”

    Why are they still attacking the US in Iraq? Is the US weak? Why after 5 years are they still attacking in Afghanistan? Are you implying that the US is percieved as weak even afte “shock and aw” and 2 long term occupations?

    -GSD


  29. the fly-man says:

    Here is a link from a previous TP post about comments made by the Senator from Utah. I believe he had made amendments to those also. Does he think no one is listening to him or at least recording the words that come out of his mouth?
    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/21/nobody-with-brains


  30. GSD says:

    The Republican talking points don’t make sense.

    Al Qaeda preys on weakness yet after five years of what the Republicans term as “strong” push-back, Al Qaeda and terrorists are killing around two Americans a day in Iraq and still fighting in Afghanistan and still planning massive terrorist attacks agains the US and the UK the two countries that are fighting back the strongest.

    Why hasn’t Switzerland been attacked?

    -GSD


  31. Sharon Cox says:

    The worst president in the history of our country say’s stay the course. Excuse me bush we don’t need any more of your inter-course. We the people have been screwed by your failed policies long enough. To many of our’s and their’s have died so you and you’re corprate waramongers can line you’re pockets………Blessings


  32. Bruce Gorton says:

    If Osama and his guys all support the Democrats, why is it that Osama and his guys launch attacks whenever the Repubs look to be in trouble? If Bin Laden is so in favour of the Democrats, why is it he seems to be doing his damnedest to keep the Republicans in power?


  33. Krazny says:

    Bruce Don’t disillusion the trolls.

    LOL


  34. GSD says:

    Bruce,

    That is not fair fighting partisan fantasy with logic.

    -GSD


  35. DrSinker says:

    What if the left were to say something like:

    “A vote for Republicans in November is a vote for more dead soldiers in Iraq”?


  36. Gerald Gibson Mobile says:

    If hatch would have to be explaining why the democratic plan of attack on terrorism is bad instead of saying crap like this…if only the democrats would offer a one sentence description of what that plan is… not the whole plan …just something simple like “Change assasination laws and recruit 10 times more special forces snipers.”

    That should give people something to grasp onto when talking about getting terrorism issue resolved… peace with Israel also, but violence against terrorists first.


  37. bones says:

    Orin, buddy, the terrorists are waiting? Over 3000 dead a month in Iraq, cars banned from Baghdad for 2 days, IEDs in the thousands every month, are you blind and deaf?


  38. For Truth says:

    It did occur to me that it would be wise to fully consider the information war following the US’s eventual “pull out” (really meaning as much troop reduction as possible, we have bases now). Planning for “who won” would be very important, lets put these spin-genius’s at work, they could pull it off. We drastically reduce troops and “win”.


  39. the fly-man says:

    What’s up with the removal of my VERY relative point? I even linked to a previous thread that I found in the TP archive. I was just reiterating what I read as what seems to be a consistent pattern on Sen. Hatch’s part. Explanation please.


  40. Briseadh na Faire says:

    If you set a deadline in Iraq, the terrorists and the Iranian backed Shite militias will just wait it out and then take over the country when we leave. Iraq will become a satilite of Iran. That certainly wouldn’t make us any safer.

    Comment by Adam Baum — August 19, 2006 @ 12:46 pm

    So, you have a crystal ball? Why didn’t you use your magnificent powers of prediction to help the Administration prevent the insurgency?

    Please enlighten us as to how many U.S. Soldiers must have to die before Iraq will be capable of governing itself? How many insurgents/terrorists/innocent men, women and children must die before Iraq will have peace if we continue on the path we are on?

    YOU CANNOT ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE THEY GO BEYOND THE “TALKING POINTS” AND INTO THE REALITY OF “STAYING THE COURSE.”

    Will you volunteer for a tour of duty in Iraq? Will you put your life on the line to back up your assertions?


  41. LCLiberal says:

    I think the “terrorists” would love to swee Republicans retain control of Congress. That way, they’ll have easy targets in the form of US soldiers for years to come. OBL loves the GOP.

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  42. Bruce Gorton says:

    New name for the “Say no to anything resembling a plan” Republicans: Headless Chickenhawks.


  43. Briseadh na Faire says:

    What matters is what happens on election day, and in that respect Republicans have been winning.

    Comment by Adam Baum — August 19, 2006 @ 12:49 pm

    I see this claim made repeatedly by different posters who use the same syntax and style in their posts, which tends to indicate that it is a standard talking point, and perhaps even the same poster using different names. “The Republicans keep winning elections” as if it is a fact. Yet there have been enough improprieties in elections to at least merit an investigation, which Republicans block at every turn. This in turn undermines the validity of the election process. Were the elections won, or were they rigged/stolen? If a Democratic candidate “won” under the same circumstances, would you be calling for a full investigation? Or would you agree to a Democrat’s contention that the Democratic candidate won?

    Would you accept Democratic Secretary’s of State certifying a Democratic victory? Would you accept vote totals from machines produced by a Democratic certifying a Democratic victory? Would you accept large numbers of registered Republican voters being erroneously removed from the registration roles?

    Or is it more about the illusion of winning and keeping the Republican Party in Power to you?


  44. Ben says:

    Adam –

    The prime minister of Iraq is Shi’a the entire cabinet is Shi’a. All of the security forces are Shi’a. They are closely allied with Iran. We have already given the country to Iran on silver plate. We did in 3 weeks what the Iranians could not do in 8 years of war. We handed Iraq to Iran. Iraq is totally controlled by Iranian Shi’a. Some like Sistani even lived in Iran for many years. I’m not sure if you are looking at the broader picture of how the middle east is being reshaped. Because of current policy, the only way to prevent an Iranian controlled Iraq is to run the government and security of Iraq ourselves…forever. That does not seem like a stategic use of resources for a prolonged war on terrorists. It is good to talk about different ideas though.

    Ben


  45. Briseadh na Faire says:

    The terrorists…prey on weakness.

    Comment by Adam Baum — August 19, 2006 @ 12:50 pm

    At last we have a Republican explanation for why the terrorists struck while Bush was President! “They prey on weakness.”


  46. WORFEUS says:

    If you set a deadline in Iraq, the terrorists and the Iranian backed Shite militias will just wait it out and then take over the country when we leave. Iraq will become a satilite of Iran.

    Comment by Adam Baum — August 19, 2006 @ 12:46 pm

    Yea?

    Guess we shouldn’t have went in there in the first place then huh?


  47. GSD says:

    What matters is what happens on election day, and in that respect Shiites in Iraq have been winning.

    Comment by Adam Baum

    Notice I have redacted the above comment to reflect the reality in Iraq.


  48. pgw says:

    someone should tell mr. hatch that the terrorists who set off bombs on trains in london and madrid weren’t “waiting for the Democrats here to take control.”


  49. WORFEUS says:

    What if the left were to say something like:

    “A vote for Republicans in November is a vote for more dead soldiers in Iraq”?

    Comment by DrSinker — August 19, 2006 @ 1:32 pm

    I am saying that.

    Cause its true.


  50. Briseadh na Faire says:

    Bush and Dick don’t us to pull out early. Premature withdrawl from Iraq would result in a loss of their firm resolve. They refuse to abort their ill-conceived plan which called for the birth of a new democracy controlled by social intercourse from Bush and Dick. Premature withdrawl will not satiate their blood-lust.

    Indeed, the relationship is more like that between a rapist and his victim. The rapist derives perverse pleasure from forcibly intruding into the victim’s life and integrity as a person. The victim, if overpowered by force, can continue to resist, or dispassionally submit to the attacker. But eventually, the rapist will have spent himself and leave. And when that happens, the rapist will be hunted down and prosecuted.

    This, then, will be the ultimate end of Bush and Dick’s raping of Iraq.


  51. WORFEUS says:

    Orrin Hatch is a good Mormon.

    He goes to temple.

    He pays 10 percent of his tax payer salary to the church.

    And he has a large family of sons and daughtersm neices and nephews and lots of grandchildren, like most Mormons.

    I bet he has a half a dozen young relatives serving in Iraq, right?

    I mean he supports the war so much I bet all his kids of eligable age are over there putting their lives on the line right?


  52. WORFEUS says:

    Premature withdrawl from Iraq would result in a loss of their firm resolve.

    Comment by Briseadh na Faire — August 19, 2006 @ 2:20 pm

    I wish Bush Senior would have practiced a little “premature withdrawal”.

    :|

    Maybe we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in now if he had.


  53. Pampero Firpo says:

    Osama bin Laden alive and in the fight is part of the great GOP plan to attempt to scare the hell out of Americans. They have cast their lot with the scare tactic and it had better work because the GOP has NOTHING to offer voters in November–NOTHING. Unfortunately, bin Laden alive is another stark reminder to everyone that Bush was unable to keep his “dead or alive” promise. Bush is a failed president with failed policies.


  54. Marley says:

    Terror Investigations:
    The joke is on us…

    No passports, no tickets,
    no bomb-making materials,
    but they were about to get on a plane
    to Disney World and bomb us

    “US to UK: Arrest some Muslims. We need faces for a big terror plot – now!”
    Check it out


  55. Marley says:

    Having problems with the link button above. Here’s the link:

    http://www.brasscheck.com/videos/911/9116.html


  56. you got islamofascism in my christofascism says:

    #44, True. the entire planet warned the chimp that this would happen.


  57. bones says:

    I really love the right wing talking point:

    If you set a deadline in Iraq, the terrorists will just wait it out and then take over the country when we leave.

    3000 Iraqi dead a month, thousands of IEDS per month, no car days in the “safest” area of the country, kidnappings anywhere outside of the green zone, insecure borders with Syria and Iran, how many Prime Ministers and government officers quit because they and their families don’t want to be killed. Yeah the terrorists are just waiting for US to leave. Let’s call bullcrap, bullcrap.


  58. Jackie says:

    Another Republican who has that foot in mouth problem. Our troops are in the middle of a civil war and Bush knows it. That’s why the only words used are stay the course.
    The chaos round the world is due to American President Bush. Satan is running the White House and he’s being supported by Americans who will ask for God’s forgiveness for their mistake. Israel has lost favor with God and their actions show it.
    Hezbollah a little know group have become known world wide thanks to the evil acts of Bush and Israel. How many people knew of Al Qeada or Bin Liden before Bush put their names on the map. America needed a leader like Kennedy to solve problems without war or invasion. Even Cuba is getting ready for a possible invasion by the US.


  59. blaze says:

    Adam,

    The reason that the US armed and supported Sadam in the first place was to defeat Iran and the regime of the Ayatollah. Before our invasion of Iraq, with Saddam in charge, Iran was tending toward a moderate government. The invasion of Iraq not only took away any secular strength in the Iraq government (ie: Saddam), but the other “axis of evil” member, Iran, decided they needed to get serious about defence and elected an extremist government that would fight the US. The fact that now the Shi’ia in Iraq could join with the Shi’ia in Iran is completely the fault of Bush and the neo-con fools. They created that scenario and now call for the deaths of our troops to try to keep it from happening.

    No matter when we leave Iraq, the insurgents can redouble their efforts after the fact. No matter when we leave Iraq, the Shi’ia will dominate the government and ally with Iran. How long is long enough? Do you really believe that we can kill all insurgents, or “terrorists” without creating more of them to replace the ones we killed?

    Let’s face it… we shouldn’t have gone in in the first place. The invasion of Iraq was an unmitigated disaster. The sooner we take our Kevlar vested targets out of there the better. Our only real hope is to begin to act as if those “terrorists” are real people and begin dialogue to bring peace to the region and we can’t do that until we remove the Orrin Hatches and George Bushes from office. Then we can begin to treat terrorism as a criminal act instead of inflating it to nation-state status and begin putting our war money into investigation, prevention and protection.


  60. Bruce Gorton says:

    bones

    Headless Chickenhawks: A chickenhawk who fears the very idea of having a plan.


  61. WORFEUS says:

    Premature withdrawl from Iraq would result in a loss of their firm resolve.

    Comment by Briseadh na Faire — August 19, 2006 @ 2:20 pm

    Like I said.

    If Bush Senior would’ve practiced a little “premature withdrawal“, which would’ve resulted in a loss of his “firm resolve“, then we wouldn’t all be subject to the mess currently being made of our planet by the little fruit of his loins.


  62. matthew says:

    Damage control Will Robinson! Damage control!


  63. bones says:

    #58, Bruce I’m sorry I had that down as the definition of George Bush.


  64. Bruce Gorton says:

    bones

    That is because Bush is one of the foremost examples of one.


  65. WORFEUS says:

    That is because Bush is one of the foremost examples of one.

    Comment by Bruce Gorton — August 19, 2006 @ 3:22 pm

    Or one of the foreskin examples of one.


  66. theroachman says:

    Does that then make Cheney an example of an enlarged prostate hawk?


  67. Coffins draped with flags says:

    Orrin Hatch must be in contact with the terrorists. That’s the only explanation for knowing what the terrorists are thinking, unless, of course, he spoke with Miss Cleo and she had some insight into the minds of others.


  68. Coffins draped with flags says:

    “Stay the course” – Bush keeps trying to NOT be a failure at something in his life.


  69. Coffins draped with flags says:

    #33 – Dr Stinker – good bumper sticker.


  70. Jerry says:

    These words are past tense, just like the Republican party will be this November – past tense.

    I doubt anybody will want the San Francisco treat, Nancy Pelosi, to be the Speaker of the House. Don’t get your hopes up. The GOP will probably lose some seats, but they will still have their majority.


  71. Ho Chi Minh says:

    #33 DrSinker; OK I’ll say it.” A vote for Republicans in November is a vote for more dead soldiers in Iraq”.


  72. Jake says:

    Middle East terrorists are “waiting for the Democrats here to take control.”

    And that’s why we’ve contracted Diebold to rig elections across the country fro the good of the nation.


  73. Republicans Are The Fear And Smear Party says:

    ummm….He might want to think about which party was in control when the towers were struck….


  74. George says:

    Orrin, the bad guys aren’t “waiting” for anything. They are doing a nice job of killing people and destroying a country right now, under your watch.

    Fool.


  75. Trinary Suka says:

    The Saudis waited until Bush and his banana republicans got into office to attck the WTC….of course the Terrorists want more weak knee republicans in office..
    And Diebold will help the terrorists keep the weaklings in office.
    ==
    And that’s why we’ve contracted Diebold to rig elections across the country fro the good of the nation. –Jake

    How many republican senators and representatives have you seen fighting terrorists?
    NONE.
    Senators and Reps will not keep you or anyone safe, at the first sign of trouble they will run to the underground bunkers…Secured by the Troops. Its the Armed Forces that will keep us safe, not BUSH, not Dick, Not the senators,,none of them.

    For these clowns to try and say that they will make America safer, because they are republicans, and terrorists fear republicans, is so stupid it’s funny. If this was true they wouldn’t they have quit already? Why No!, Iraq gotten worse! Must be all that ‘republican fear’ making them attack our troops….right?

    Someone tell me HOW a Republican hiding in a bunker, hugging his ass, makes any difference in National Security… Terrorists love weak wormy visionless Republicans like Bush and his courseless course.


  76. Trinary Suka says:

    Former Generals: Bush Must Negotiate to Make America Safer
    by Aaron Glantz

    Twenty-one former generals and high ranking national security officials have called on United States President George W. Bush to reverse course and embrace a new area of negotiation with Iran, Iraq, and North Korea. In a letter released Thursday, the group told reporters Bush’s “hard line” policies have undermined national security and made America less safe.


  77. stonehinge says:

    Any demonizing Democrats’ “plans” for Iraq at this point is a GOP ploy attempting to distract folks from the failed Bush Middle East policies. – Comment by Above the Clouds

    Actually, the situation is a bit more discouraging than this, since Cheney has it covered every which way but Sunday. With this information from GlobalResearch.ca, it looks like we should expect to see the Second 911 Fraud just about any time now. That will be the trigger for a pre-emptive nuclear attack on Iran.

    The Pentagon’s “Second 911″ – http://tinyurl.com/g3ehh


  78. Inkadinkadont says:

    I see that up until the elections, the Roveslug and GOP is making sure these nonsense, irrational, fearmongering statements are made on a daily basis to scare democrats into not voting the republicans and Lieberman out of office.

    Except that I think people are so sick and tired of hearing this nonsense, it alone is going to get people to the polls, so that they can shut them up already!


  79. Briseadh na Faire says:

    I notice Adam Baum (Atom Bomb) has committed a favorite “troll” tactic. Drop the feces and run.


  80. Clyde the Ripper says:

    #77

    Adam bombed back up in post 15:

    “I think the American people are really sick of these assholes PLAYING politics with terrorism.” (He failed to identify the source of the comment.)

    Right after the London plot was foiled the Dems rushed out with a fresh web ad to try and exploit it politically.

    Comment by Adam Baum — August 19, 2006 @ 12:51 pm

    I see he agrees with us. As the original quote says “sick of the ASSHOLES (my emphasis)…”

    It is not derogatorily “playing politics” by making known and exploiting the faults of one’s opponent–that is damn good politicking. What is not good politicking is to claim credit for something that you had no knowledge of nor participation in as one’s own while you were nursing a rectal-cranial insertion. I am sure that is what Adam bomb is doing now.


  81. Cyra Brown says:

    BushCo tells us over and over that the terrorist’s main goal is to kill Americans. So they accomodate the wishes of the terrorists by importing Americans, and as they are killed, BushCo sends ‘refills’ on a regular basis. And by making sure that our soldiers continue to be ill-equipped, BushCo gives aid to the terrorists, to make them look good. And now, by egging Israel on, they have done the same for Hezbollah. Way to go, BushCo.


  82. the fly-man says:

    Term limits. Yep,that’s the only way were going to stop the entrenched entitilement mentality of our ruling class.


  83. RacingTowardsTheStoneAge says:

    What matters is what happens on election day, and in that respect Republicans have been winning.

    I am sick and tired of listening to this shit. This is not a football game you moron. What matters is winning blah blah….. We both are losing dumass. Regular citizen is losing. Again that includes you. At least I know that they are not going to fool me. But, Idiots like you were robbed blind. They (This scum of an Administration) prove to us that you are an Idiot over and over again. They know that they can fool you with the fear tactic. So exactly for the nth time. Why are we in Iraq?


  84. Lady Luck says:

    Republicans are using fear tactics to retain their power and money. Don’t fall for it this time. These people are insane.


  85. SUSA says:

    50. That’s a good analogy. It’s almost not an analogy but very close to what’s happening.


  86. SUSA says:

    84. Because Republicans are the untreated mentally ill.


  87. Kelton says:

    #71: I doubt anybody will want the San Francisco treat, Nancy Pelosi, to be the Speaker of the House.

    I’m not a huge Nancy Pelosi fan, but she’d be a massive improvement over Dennis Hastert or Tom DeLay or Newt Gingrich. I’d prefer Tom Allen or Henry Waxman, but Pelosi isn’t an entirely bad choice.

    Am I supposed to dislike Pelosi because she’s from San Francisco? That seems like pretty thin reasoning.


  88. Limp Baughzkit says:

    #15: The terrorists will be emblodened if we cut and run from Iraq. They prey on weakness.

    You mean, like when they caught the Bush administration napping on 9/11?


  89. progressaurus rex says:

    should i say it again?

    this is the senator that took the lead in watering down anti-terror legislation in 1996 when clinton backed it. so when the “democrats had control” he was doing everything he could to prevent what he so ardently supports now.

    note hatch’s words back then:

    Hatch called Clinton’s proposed study of taggants — chemical markers in explosives that could help track terrorists — “a phony issue.”

    “If they want to, they can study the thing” already, Hatch asserted. He also said he had some problems with the president’s proposals to expand wiretapping.

    vs. his words in 2001:

    “It is essential that we give our law enforcement authorities every possible tool to search out and bring to justice those individuals who have brought such indiscriminate death into our backyard”

    and also this:

    “They’re moaning and groaning in Congress because he didn’t abide by what’s called the FISA Act, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. That act is very important, but it was enacted in 1978 and it is not applicable to today’s world,” Hatch said. “The president is using every methodology that we know … to try to track down those al-Qaida people or people affiliated with al-Qaida.”

    so he was against strong terror legislation before he was for it. thanks for looking after us when it mattered, senator.

    also interesting is how the middle eastern terrorists had to wait for the republicans to take control before they could successfully launch a major attack. guess that throws that argument out the window.



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