McCain Calls For Escalation In Iraq, Suggests Putting More Troops On The Ground
McCain Calls For Escalation In Iraq, Suggests Putting More Troops On The Ground
On NBC’s Meet the Press this morning, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) called for immediately adding more U.S. soldiers on the ground in Iraq. Echoing the failed strategy behind the escalation during the Vietnam War, McCain suggested that putting more troops in the middle of Iraq’s civil war would help the U.S. to ultimately prevail. Watch it:
As former administration officials and military generals have noted, a larger initial force was necessary to provide security on the ground and prevent the growth of the insurgency. But at this point in the conflict, a larger force is operationally impracticable. Slate’s Fred Kaplan wrote last year that the Army could maintain its current troop levels in Iraq, but it doesn’t have the capacity to “allow George W. Bush to send more troops to Iraq and Afghanistan†unless we institute a draft.
Beyond the practical unfeasibility of sending in more troops, McCain misdiagnoses what adding more troops at this point would do to the situation on the ground. As the Center for American Progress’s Iraq redeployment strategy argues:
A more visible presence of U.S. troops risks further stoking the flames of the insurgency by feeding perceptions of long-term U.S. occupation among many Iraqis.
Full transcript below:MCCAIN: The question is, are we going to be able to bring the situation under control now? I still believe we can. I think part of it has to do with the Madhi army and Sadr. Sadr has got to be taken out of this equation and his militia has got to be addressed forcefully.
GREGORY: But to do that, do you need more U.S. soldiers on the ground now?
MCCAIN: I think so. I think so. We took troops from places like Ramadi, which are still not under control and put them into Baghdad. We’ve had to send in additional troops as they are. All along, we have not had enough troops on the ground to control the situation. Many, many people knew that, and it’s — we’re paying a very heavy price for it.
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Fine, send his children first.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:04 pmAfte all, soldiers grow on trees. Just ask the Iraqi army.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:05 pmShoring up his support on the far right.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:05 pmThere’s nothing wrong with McCain that electroshock couldn’t fix.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:06 pmEvidently McCain is having a BIG VIETNAM flashback. You would think a guy who “lived” thru the Vietnam Conflict would understand pouring thousands of US boys and girls into a war zone DOESN’T WORK in a CIVIL WAR.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:07 pmShoveling more American bodies into this maw is exactly what we don’t need.
Hard To Be a Repulican
August 20th, 2006 at 2:08 pmWave goodbye to your presidential hopes Mr. McCain. The American people are not stupid. We are tired of pouring our tax dollars down a festering rat hole with no hope of a return on the investment, not even a thank you. If we are going to drive the country into bankruptcy I’d rather do it invesing in alternative fuels, schools, healthcare or ant of a thousand other causes.John McCain obviously doesn’t have what this country wants or needs. We certainly don’t want another Bush.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:09 pmI saw that. I was thinking, “Isn’t that what Kerry suggested during the campaign, like 2 years ago?”
Uh, it’s WAY too late for that. Pull most of them back to Kuwait. Send some to Qatar and send the rest home.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:11 pmGeorge Bush’s own LSD is Like, wow, psychedelic. Compare the lives of Timothy Leary and George Bush and tell me who did the most damage to America and the world.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:13 pmWould you let someone who spent 4 years in the Hanoi Hilton babysit your kids? Run your country? Run a ground invasion? Buy groceries?
August 20th, 2006 at 2:15 pmMcCain is now toast…He’s done !
Jim Webb SLAMS Bush-Cheney Middle East Policy
“The invasion of Iraq was a double strategic blunder” – a “diversion from…the war against international terrorism” and a quagmire that “has tied down our military in a costly occupation.”
“Al Qaeda is stronger today than 5 years ago,” in large part “as a result of our occupation of Iraq.”
“We should say clearly to the people of Iraq…that we have no plans for a long-term presence in that country.”
“Congress should make sure” that we don’t build permanent bases in Iraq “by banning any expenditure” for that purpose.
The Administration “planned from the very beginning to make war in Iraq.” They cynically used “fear and anger after 9/11″ in order to achieve that objective.
Good riddins McCain !
August 20th, 2006 at 2:15 pmWould you let someone who spent 4 years in the Hanoi Hilton babysit your kids? Run your country? Run a ground invasion? Buy groceries?
Would you let Bill Clinton babysit your daughter? No.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:21 pmMcCain, one of the Keating Five, has Bush so far up his ass that he can sound like a complete idiot that he is. What a waste of space that guy is!!!
August 20th, 2006 at 2:23 pmJohn McCain is turn into Bozo the Clown, and that’s not funny.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:23 pmWould you let Bill Clinton babysit your daughter? No.
Comment by Sam — August 20, 2006 @ 2:21 pm
The trolls are silent all morning, and when we finally here from them this is the best they can do?
August 20th, 2006 at 2:27 pmSo Sam, are you insinuating Clinton is a pedaphile?
August 20th, 2006 at 2:27 pmHow old are McCain’s kids? If he needs cannon fodder, he should start looking at home.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:29 pmCitizen McCain blathers on again. When are people going to get hip to the fact that this “centrist” is an out and out lunatic fascist?
August 20th, 2006 at 2:30 pm#12 Sam: Thanks for your irrelevant comparison. What’s your point? Why ask a question, answer it and then post it. Where does sarcasm lead to?
August 20th, 2006 at 2:31 pm“Conservatives” really do miss Clinton don’t they? What, with all his balanced budgets, peace and prosperity you might think they would forgive him one blow job–after all, disgraced Congressman Newt Gingrich had the US Treasury spend $75 million to “investigate” it. Never mind that Clinton could speak with knowledge about subjects important to our nation without using note cards made for him by Karl Rove. Clinton lies about blow jobs; Bush lies about war.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:31 pmI would trust my young daughter with Clinton. But never in a million freakin’ years would I trust him with my wife…
August 20th, 2006 at 2:32 pmI can’t believe it! When we were slipping down the slope in Vietnam the common method used was put more soldiers in country. All that did was add to the troops killed in action. John McCain should know better than that. Evidently the Vietnam war taught him nothing.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:35 pmhow in god’s name did this loser become presidential material ? just because he served in ‘nam and suffered the riogors of a POW dosn’t exempt him for suggesting idiotic things and being a moron.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:36 pmDems would let Iran obtain nukes because they are weak in the war on terror.
Comment by Sam — August 20, 2006 @ 2:29 pm
Boy, this guy Sam is a real crackerjack debater. He’s got all the lines down pat. He is like a caricature of a parody of a right wing Rove-bot.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:36 pm“Do not reinforce failure, rather , reinforce success”. —Sun Tzu
August 20th, 2006 at 2:37 pmW used to shove firecrackers up frogs; pretty strong sign of a psychopath… I’d choose Clinton over that freak any day of the week.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:37 pmMcCain now knows Americans will elect anyone. A turd is a step up.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:38 pmHow old are McCain’s kids? If he needs cannon fodder, he should start looking at home.
A very small percentage of active military vote Dem. That’s because most Dems are unpatriotic.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:38 pmSome trolls get paid by the word. Some trolls get paid by the number of posts. It looks like Sam gets paid by the hackneyed, cliched, talking points.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:41 pmBut never in a million freakin’ years would I trust him with my wife…
Clinton groped a woman after her husband commited suicide. Kathleen Willey was her name.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:43 pmSam, that’s a lie.
All miliatry counties in Virginia overwhelmingly voted for Kerry in 2004. Look it up. Quit spreading lies.
OVERWHELMING
August 20th, 2006 at 2:44 pmKerry betrayed his fellow servicemen in Vietnam.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:46 pmSam, you’re a liar. Do you have any friends? Do you jerk off much?
Military families overwhelmingly voted for Kerry.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:46 pmSam: I got nothin’ — CLINTON! WAAAAAH!
August 20th, 2006 at 2:47 pmSam, you’re not going to offend anyone by bashing Kerry. And we already know what type of person bashes Clinton. Get a hobby, freak.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:48 pmMilitary families overwhelmingly voted for Kerry.
That’s a lie.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:48 pmDo you jerk off much?
Comment by The DLC are Frauds
Well, if we’re going in that direction…
Thank goodness for Clinton’s BJ, where else would Repubs hang their hats?
rim shot Thank you very much, folks, I’ll be here all week…
August 20th, 2006 at 2:50 pmSam, you’re not going to offend anyone by bashing Kerry.
He called his fellow servicemen rapists, killers, Gangis Khan. He slandered good men.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:50 pmI think we should offer Sam our thanks. He has kindly distilled all the long-winded, often incoherent, blather coming from Rove’s troll-bots into the canonical set of talking points. In effect what we are seeing is the pure distillation of all that emanates from Rove’s vast noise machine.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:51 pmYes, the conservatives do miss Clinton – -
August 20th, 2006 at 2:52 pmThis was just on Fox TV – one of their analysts said Lynn Cheney is a woman “of integrity” as opposed to Hillary Clinton. She also said Clinton was an “enabler” for her husband, and she even “took him back.” (Apparently there is no way for Hillary to have earned approval.)
Also, she said were Clinton to become president, her husband would be a “security risk.”
Fox employees are just sick and twisted partisan blabbers with nothing intelligent to say.
No wonder their fans are incredibly uninformed.
Thank goodness for Clinton’s BJ
Clinton is a sexual predator. He made many unwelcome advances on women.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:52 pmshe said were Clinton to become president, her husband would be a “security risk.â€
Clinton would be open to blackmail with all the women he “moved on.”
August 20th, 2006 at 2:53 pm#41 Just like I said, a parody of a caricature of a ….
August 20th, 2006 at 2:53 pmSam is one of those fans.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:54 pmSam believes the lies put forward by the Clinton-haters, and he repeats them.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:56 pmWonder if he has heard about Bush’s background? They don’t talk about it on Fox.
Sam is one of those fans.
I am a fan of this country. Most Dems, who are unpatriotic, are not.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:56 pmSam wants to talk about Clinton because his man, Bush is an abject failure and a dullard. It must make you feel pretty stupid to have cast your vote for “GOP” and instead get the neocon lies, debt. and unending war. Sucker!
August 20th, 2006 at 2:57 pmClinton is a sexual predator. He made many unwelcome advances on women.
Comment by Sam
There’s a difference between sexual predators and jerks, Sam. Jerks are cured by swift kicks to the nuts. Meet me on the corner, and we’ll if it works for you.
August 20th, 2006 at 2:59 pmEveryone here is “a fan of this country” we just aren’t big fans of Bush’s failed Iraq policy and puppets like McCain and Lieberman who want a continuation of the same failure. Clinton lies about a cum stain on a dress–Bush lies about reasons for a war that kills thousands. In the end, both are liars, but Clinton’s lies didn’t end with flag-draped coffins.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:01 pmSam just continues to prove my point that Fox fans don’t think- they merely repeat what their lame brains ingest.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:02 pmTo state that Dems are unpatriotic is so yesterday! The repugs wore that one out long ago. Now it is just a joke – but one that the likes of Sam would never understand. It’s sad to see someone with the mentality of Sam post his ignorance for all to see.
I think Pampero has it pegged when he says that seeing that Bush, the dullard and failure is causing Sam to feel stupid, so he is lashing out at Democrats.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m done with Sam.
He’s only here because he’s paid to draw us off topic on some important news today. I’m going to look for dixie’s troll list…
August 20th, 2006 at 3:03 pmYou know Sam posts just like Jerry
August 20th, 2006 at 3:03 pmSam are you jerry in disguise?
August 20th, 2006 at 3:03 pmTo state that Dems are unpatriotic is so yesterday! The repugs wore that one out long ago.
Comment by Marie — August 20, 2006 @ 3:02 pm
They can’t come up with any new talking points, so Sam can only reprise their greatest hits. It’s a sure sign of desperation.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:05 pmMaire: “Conservatives” and trolls like Sam have been duped by the neocons. What “conservative” victories has Bush delivered in 5 years? Bush’s stem cell research veto? Social Security “reform?” Harriet Myers? Sam voted “GOP” but he got “neocon-ed” OUCH!
August 20th, 2006 at 3:05 pmI don’t know about anyone else, but I’m done with Sam.
Comment by Zooey — August 20, 2006 @ 3:03 pm
I’m not. Bring it on, Sam.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:06 pmFound it. Sam, you have violated #1, #3, and #4, and you’re now on the list.
TROLL ALERT (UPDATE)
Maybe we should just periodically post a list of known trolls/pest so that new readers can avoid wasting time with them. And we can keep each other up to date. I would love to someday debate a real conservative, but, trolls just waste our time.
Here’s an updated list to pass on:
I Hate Liberals
Seixon
Red Wolf
Chase
Giacomo
ren
Exley
Gary Ruppert
Jason M. Hendler
reddog
Mighty Aphrodite
Randy
Retired Republican Soldier
Antagonist
Tracy
COMMENT by Jim
theleftisnuts
big mike from ct
exley
Mr. Big
Esteban Calderone
Alexander Alt
Deacon Blackfire
Jerry
Sam
Here’s how to get on the troll list:
1) Provide no links. Just slurs and crap.
2) Put words in your opponents mouth by twisting the reply.
3) Twisting “cause and effect†using tortured logic.
4) Bottom line goal: Wasting our time and energy and making us angry.
5) Claiming your smarter or went to a great school to prove your better or know more or are worth more.
6) Using weasel words and weasel points from which you back down at the first sniff of an informed link.
7) Provide links to discredited or biased sources.
8) Pasting irrelevant telephone book size posts from conservative think tanks.
I welcome others to add to this list and post this list often!!
– dixie blood
August 20th, 2006 at 3:06 pmKeep up the good work with the troll list. It is a useful reference.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:08 pmRealScientist,
None of us can be here all the time. I think it is dixie’s intent that we add to the list from time to time, and post it. We should always make sure to give her/him credit.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:10 pmActually what McCain said was put every American except Texans and Arizonans in Iraq.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:10 pmThanks, Dixie, and thanks Zooey.
And Jerry (uh, I mean Sam), thanks for the laughs!
August 20th, 2006 at 3:11 pmThis is the first day I have seen posts by Sam and I am stunned by his stupidity.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:13 pmYes, he belongs on the toll hall of (in)fame, Zooey. He’s a real time waster. He seems young, impressionable, poorly informed, easly propagandized, and he thinks he’s cool.
We’re waist deep in the big muddy and the big fool says to push on.
Sam, I hate to break the news to you, but US troops DID commit atrocities in Vietnam. Ever hear of My Lai? Read about it.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:14 pmThanks Zooey. Most of the names on that list would be multiple posters, I’d say we have 4 or 5 of the jerks on our hands here, tops. Still, gotta weed them repugs out!
August 20th, 2006 at 3:18 pmDixie, I think you can consolidate Sam and Jerry. They are clearly the same idiot.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:19 pmYeah, maybe we can eventually identify the relationships, and have a troll list with things like “Sam = Jerry”
August 20th, 2006 at 3:21 pmBest news I’ve heard in a while. The further to hawkside McCain goes, the less likely we are to have a Republican president in 2009.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:23 pmI did not write comment #73. If there is one thing that is inappropriate here it is to post falsely under someone else’s screen identity.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:27 pmWhat a funny troll you are jafar.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:29 pmDixie, I think you can consolidate Sam and Jerry. They are clearly the same idiot.
Comment by JPark
JPark, even though I think they may be the same person, I thought I’d leave them separate, just in case they are twin trolls, separated at birth. :)
August 20th, 2006 at 3:29 pmBaltar: proceed to nfl.com
August 20th, 2006 at 3:30 pmZooey, eww, what kind of people would spawn such progeny??
August 20th, 2006 at 3:31 pmWhat exactly is the “Islamic cause?” Hate America for it’s freedom? I don’t think a left-leaning blog is the proper place for “conservative” trolls to come to spread their hate and intolerance. There are right-wing blogs where like-minded people can share all the GOP “victories” like Harriet Myers, the spiralling out of control debt, and Bush’s failure in Iraq.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:33 pmEvery county surrounding Washington DC voted for Kerry.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:36 pm#69 was not me, evidently the trolls have figured out how to write other people’s names.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:37 pm#75 is not me – I suspect it is SAM.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:38 pmAnd #83 is highly trollpicious.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:38 pm#67 Baltar: Favorite team–Michigan Wolverines. GO BLUE!
August 20th, 2006 at 3:38 pmI have sent email to TP moderators requesting that they remove posts #73 and #80, which were not made by me. I have further requested that they ban the troll that wrote these posts.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:39 pmThere’s only one thing I dislike more than Neocons who support democratizing muslims. And it’s muslims, jafar.
Mel Gibson was right. And I bet he’s got a pretty good assessment of islam arabs, too.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:39 pmBetween Sam and Baltar this thread has been highjacked.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:39 pmMcCain can’t seriously look at the polls and expect this message to resonate with Americans. Bush and Cheney have tape of him with little boys and they are making him the sacrificial lamb. McCain is an experienced politician, he wouldn’t be delivering this message unless he’s being put up to it. I’m sure in the end, Bush will insist it was all McCain’s idea.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:40 pmI don’t take kindly to anybody that tries to convert me, whether they be Muslims, Jews, Christian or Zoroastrians. I think Muslims and Christians are equally misguided with extremists in equal proportions. Don’t take my wish for peace and my hope that our foreign policy changes toward the middle east as anything other than my sympathy for the innocents that are dying because of BushCo. It is not because I believe that Islam is the right path, nor am I condoning what extremists in this world are doing; It is simply wanting to see social justice and peace.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:42 pmIf TP is on the job, we should soon see these posts falsely attributed to us removed, along with Jafar’s posts.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:42 pmBush supports Bin Laden family
Bush supports muslim dictators
Bush supports giving cash and democracy and ports to islam.
NOT THE DEMOCRATS. Atleast not this one.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:42 pmOk, jafar, my thought out post was obviously wasted on you, you right wing troll.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:43 pm“McCain supported increasing troop levels in the inevitable Iraq disaster” will be a very nice Democratic campaign ad.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:44 pmThe Madhi militia is the government of Iraq’s problem, not ours.
August 20th, 2006 at 3:48 pmWhat Iraq needs today is a heavy handed thug like Saddam Hussein to squash it’s own internal rebellions. If we were to take on the religious fanatic militias, that will create more anti American hatred and more terrorists.
It’s time for us to leave. The Mission was accomplished. Bush avenged his “he tried to kill my daddy”.
Knock off using RealScientist’s handle. It is childish (but I guess you can’t really help yourself, can you?).
August 20th, 2006 at 3:54 pmWhere will McCain get his additional troops? Even if that crazy idea were acted upon.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:05 pmWe already have reduced standards (got to be a real comfort to guys in Iraq) raised the age elegibility, over-extended the terms of those already serving with stop-loss.
The man is just not making sense.
Obviously #108 isn’t me. But then many things are not what they appear here, the only thing that is as it appears is Jafar is an idiot.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:08 pmWhy are we in Iraq again?
August 20th, 2006 at 4:09 pmThey are back door drafting the inactive ready reserve, they raised enlistment to age 42 and they still can’t make the numbers. The only options are (a) draft – which ain’t happening, or (b) start a war that directly imperils the US, ala Iran.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:10 pmWhere will McCain get his additional troops?
Bill Kristol has explained, in his typically snotty way, that we have plenty of troops elsewhere that could be shifted to Iraq. And we all know that Bill is an expert. The Neocon fantasists would throw every American soldier in the world into Iraq, Iran, and Syria if allowed to, just to make sure they get their third world war and all the glory that will accompany it.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:10 pmWhy are we in Iraq again? AND what would having more troops there accomplish?
August 20th, 2006 at 4:11 pmKristol is wrong. you can’t just pull troops from Germany, South Korea, Okinawa, Diego Garcia, Italy, England, Greenland, etc because you have to replace those troops with someone. A lot of these troops and places support the troops on the front. If you hang a closed sign on any of the above bases, you don’t get bullets, toilet paper, food, etc. And there isn’t anyone to backfill, unless Bush gives his cronies civilian contracts to do the support work and send the support troops to the front. Nothing like being a clerk typist today and an infantryman tomorrow.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:14 pmHey, some of you folks should join me over at townhall.com. Giving hell to the righties is good fun.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:17 pmAnd I strongly believe that down the road, the Bush Administration will be recalled as the most amoral, avaricious, criminally insane thugs that have ever set foot in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
-Water Tiger
August 20th, 2006 at 4:20 pmMcCain can say one of three things.
-Stay the course
-Pullout
-More troops.
But no matter what he says, it will change.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:20 pmI go to Daily Kos when I want to bash righties.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:21 pmComment by jafar — August 20, 2006
I think that TP had better look into these statements. There is a set up here. Imagine these statements being used against TP.
Al Gonzales was just talking about how thousands of blogs in America were being used by Al Qaeda.
This is a dangerous thing that this Jafar is doing. It is being done to discredit TP.
-GSD
August 20th, 2006 at 4:23 pmThe first step to understanding the Neocons is to realize that they are megalomaniacs. These fools believe that some grand destiny waits in store for them. It is their destiny to remake the world in their fantasy image, and they cannot allow anything to get in their way. In their minds, all failures are merely tactical. The grand strategy remains intact, and nothing can shake their faith in it. So despite the spectacular failure of Iraq, they urge our country forward with the mission, pushing for the U.S. to attack Iran, and then Syria, and then who knows who. It really is WW III in their deluded minds, and they are trying with all their might to make this prophecy come true for the rest of us. So they will urge the attack on Iran, whether we have the troops or not. Once we are in Iran, we will become so enmeshed that “cut and run” will become impossible. Ultimately the American people will acquiesce to reinstating the draft, because it really will be WW III. And then they will “get the job done.” Or so these freaks imagine.
These guys truly remind me of Adolf Hitler.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:23 pm#126
GSD, this is why I sent email to TP asking that they put a stop to whoever has been using other people’s nickname in this thread and ban them. I suspect that Jafar is this same person.
By the way, you can add “mendacious” to your list of adjectives describing the Bush administration.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:28 pmComparing and associating Democrats with islamists is backfiring on Republicans. It’s funny.
How’s this for a campaign/general purpose ad:
Hi. My name is John Doe. I think Bush should stop the Total Information Awareness program because both parties outlawed it in 2004. To replace it we should implement and fund real security measures here at home, not in Iraq.
It should run during American Idol.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:33 pmCNN
August 20, 2006
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/20/iraq.main/index.html
20 killed, 300 wounded in Baghdad massacre
Gunmen attacked pilgrims at a Shiite religious gathering in Baghdad today, killing 20 and wounding more than 300 others, police and Iraqi health ministry officials said. Hundreds of thousands of pilgrims had crowded into six city neighborhoods when gunmen at street level and snipers in surrounding buildings opened fire, witnesses said.
Nope, no civil war in Iraq. It’s just sectarian violence.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:36 pmI am afraid to sign off for fear the http-error spam filter will return.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:36 pmBut I have to leave for a little while.
Spudge – their game is semantics – just words. It sort of fits with their overly simplistic slogans and the like — they just re-phrase, use new jargon, and with a snap of their fingers! it’s not civil war, it’s sectarian violence. I think there is a military rule about participation in civil wars and that may be their reluctance to be honest about what is going on in Iraq.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:39 pmThis is a dangerous thing that this Jafar is doing. It is being done to discredit TP.
-GSD
Comment by GSD
I wouldnt worry about it too much… there have been plenty of people on here calling for the punishment of Saudi Arabia for 911 and the taking away of Pakistans Muslim nuclear bomb.
The Rush Limbaugh types get themselves to believe its opposite day all the time and just because someone is against christofacism they pretend like that equals being pro-al qeada… its not hard to show the incompetence of someone that has only two possible answers to any one question. You are with us or against us!
Oooooorr we are against all dumb shits whether they be American or Saudi or whatever.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:39 pmWhy do Neo-Conservatives hate America and our constitution?
August 20th, 2006 at 4:53 pmHello j,
(I wanted to get that in before you disappear again.)
Passionately stated, as usual.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:53 pmNot even the meatiest of Neocon meatheads can accuse liberals of hating their own country. The left know how valuable their freedoms are and they know they’re rooted in democratic freedom.
When the Republicans accuse others of “hating America” it’s a pretty good sign their days of leadership are coming to an end.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:54 pmAnswer me this. If Bush had ultimate power to transform the middle east what would he do? What would be the desired results? When would it be finished? What would it look like?
August 20th, 2006 at 4:59 pmFor example, if he had unlimited troops what would he do first?
You need lithium.
Comment by Russ Feingold Sucks
That’s rich — coming from you.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:02 pmBetter yet, Russ Feingold Sucks, what would you do?
August 20th, 2006 at 5:02 pmrecall that john negroponte used the same technique in vietnam and guatamala… the bush crime family did not make him head of intelligence because they liked his haircut, spudge…
Hi, James. John negroponte was the proconsul in Guatemala. He did a hell of job sending a lot of people to torture camps. Say Zoo, hi for me.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:03 pmRuss Feingold Sucks,
Once again you’re barking up the wrong tree by bashing yet another DLC Democrat. Answer the question or go away.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:04 pmFor example, if he had unlimited troops what would he do first?
Comment by The DLC are Frauds
No one in BushCo could give you that answer.
When we train our kids to do anything, we show them what it looks like when it’s finished.
GWB never got that far.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:05 pmHi, zoo.
Passionately stated, as usual.
Comment by Zooey — August 20, 2006 @ 4:53 pm
Ok, I thougth you werent here. Keep the discussion up, wonder girl. Talk to you later.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:05 pmWTF – where do these devils keep coming from? First, it’s Saddam, then it’s Maquawi, and now it’s Sader. It never f**king stops. I can see we will be fighting terror long after I place my shoes under the bed permently. We should be fighting against this war on terra. Bush&Co have destroyed the clean air act and the clean water act. Our next major WW will be over clean water to drink so turn off those fountains in Las Vegas and stop watering your lawns in Phoenix.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:06 pmHi, Juan. Bye, Juan. :)
August 20th, 2006 at 5:06 pmThink this through. More troops on the ground. About a month ago 50,000 to 70,000 troops were put on the ground in Baghdad. The result? More violence than ever before, in Baghdad.
-How many deaths will it take ’till they know that too many people have died? – Dylan
August 20th, 2006 at 5:06 pmperhaps he didn’t like my love letter???
Comment by no not no no
I don’t know why not, I always do…he’s just not man enough to understand.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:07 pmLiberals should be tortured for their seeming support of Hezbollah.
Comment by Russ Feingold Sucks — August 20, 2006 @ 5:05 pm
Whatever. Your from the 33%. You are no one. Hezbollah is a terrorist party just as conservatives are. Shut your pipe hole.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:08 pmBye, Juan. :)
Comment by Zooey — August 20, 2006 @ 5:06 pm
Later, Champ. :)
August 20th, 2006 at 5:09 pmSam – provide a convincing argument for why we should vote Republican? Include how we benefit from a Republican controlled government. Maybe then, you will have something of real value to add to the discussions. Otherwise, go back to traitor Rove and tell him that his talking points are working anymore.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:09 pm#157 – meant to type Zarqawi
August 20th, 2006 at 5:10 pmStill waiting on that answer. What would Bush do with unlimited troops?
August 20th, 2006 at 5:13 pmdixie,
All the trolling around here lately tell me one thing — the right is worried, and they are right to be worried. :)
August 20th, 2006 at 5:14 pm#173 – That’s not James.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:15 pm#169 Oh, I am sure that is just another name regurgitated up by the same troll that has been afflicting itself upon us for the last couple of days. TP needs to get some better bouncers.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:15 pmOk trolls – what is so great about a Republican controlled government? And don’t try to call your selves conservatives because you are NOT. You are nazis because the venom that spills out of your minds is the same venom that spilled out the nazis. Go polish your boots. You need to make sure that you look good for your fuhrer.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:17 pmRed Wolf…he would also allow abortions and civil unions!!! I think you should check up on old Rudy before you give your knee-jerk support to him. You might want to back a different chicken-hawk.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:17 pmJimmy Carter and Bill Clinton did.
Comment by Russ Feingold Sucks
RFS: I got nothin’ — Waaaaah!
Dismissed.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:18 pmYes, as soon as one troll disappears, another appears. First Sam, then Jafar, then Red Wolf, and now Sucks.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:19 pmThe only weapons you guys would have would be Jihadi suicide bombers!
Comment by Red Wolf
I don’t know, Red Wolf, you sound like a bedwetter to me. Anyone else?
August 20th, 2006 at 5:20 pm, by bloood if needs be
why are republicans always so violent?
really though, the bloods and crips would eat you for a snack.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:20 pmWow – Red Wolf wants more war? Hope he is first to volunteer and if he’s lucky, he can return in a coffin draped in a flag. Now that would be justice.
We need to start re-deploying the troops. More troops on the ground will only create more coffins draped in flags returning to Dover DE.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:21 pmFirst Sam, then Jafar, then Red Wolf,
just call them ’sybil’ – it’s very fitting
August 20th, 2006 at 5:21 pmRed Wolf, if you yourself are not a chickenhawk, why do you support chickenhawks that throw our soldiers lives away for no gain and when they come back screwed up absolutely forget about them?
August 20th, 2006 at 5:23 pmThe solution to terrorism is negotiation. Terrorists want something, sometimes that thing is unreasonable and sometimes it’s not. We don’t know because BushCo won’t talk to anyone. We have a whole State dept sitting around doing nothing except making dinner reservations for privilaged frat boys like Bush, Cheney, Rummy. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, etc have stopped attacking Israel because we made it economically advantageous for them to stop. That doesn’t mean they love Israel but they aren’t participating in militarily killing Israelis anymore. It works, but you have to “diplomatically talk to BOTH sides” to work out a solution.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:24 pmI’m afraid
yes you are, your fear makes you your enemy – and americas too
August 20th, 2006 at 5:24 pmI think this site is becoming a troll paradise! Can TP control the posters (like DKOs who has a week’s policy of not posting for obvious reasons) OTOH can anyone link me to wingnut sites so I can have fun with them???
August 20th, 2006 at 5:24 pmjust call them ’sybil’ – it’s very fitting
Comment by nym@alias.net
We already have a Sybil, and he’s way smarter than those trolls.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:26 pmwould shut these treacherous Leftists sites, Lock up the media
same old fascist, different day..
August 20th, 2006 at 5:27 pmFace it Red Wolf, Rudy is a leftist in wolves clothing. He is the ultimate trojan candidate. I think I will jump on the bandwagon with you. Nominate Rudy, righties.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:27 pmREd Wolf you may be on to something here… it was that South that picked Nazi Bush instead of Patriot Gore.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:29 pm#176 thanks, zooey for pointing that out… imitation here is not quite the sincerest form of flattery, is it?
No j, it’s not. Thanks for posting that link, and have a great evening.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:29 pmWell, that is very kind of you Red Wolf. I want all your neo-nazi organizations crushed. I guess I won’t get my wish, either.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:29 pmI’m just sure Bin Laden is going to sit with Bush at the table
actually the bushies and ladens are old family friends..
August 20th, 2006 at 5:29 pmOk, the bastard that was posting under jafar is now posting under no not no no. Welcome back you pathetic little worm.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:30 pmRuss Feingold Sucks,
Try not to be frightened.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:31 pmFascism is a reaction
now go be a real fascist and read some Mussolini
August 20th, 2006 at 5:31 pmRed Wolf,
You, too. Try not to be frightened.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:31 pmWow, fascism is a reaction to the left? Thanks for that brilliant insight. It couldn’t have anything to do with greed. Nope, not at all.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:32 pmHey Russ Stupid boy, Bush and Bin Ladens have actually sat across the table – I gues that makes Bush a terrorist too.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:33 pmYour ancestors were incredible failures Red Wolf. Congratulations.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:33 pmThe trolls are here in full force so it must be dinner time on the east coast.
Keep up the good work, bones, zooey, jpark, nym, dixie and all the rest. You folks rock n roll :) Looks like you have things under control. Just once, I would love to see a posting from a troll that actually said something of real value. They are easy to bait and predictable. Just lure them into your trapdoor and then, slam them. Have fun.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:34 pmMore fear mongering from a hate filled liberal
only republicans hate, remember liberals want peace.
com’on now sing with me, smile on your brother
August 20th, 2006 at 5:35 pmMcCain is a dangerously deluded imbecile that should not be in a position of power or influence. Given the general idiocy of the US these days, McCain is a shoe-in for 2008.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:35 pm.
no not no no, extremists are extremists. Both ends of the spectrum are fricking nuts.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:35 pm212 – Red Wolf – thank you for giving us such great power over you. Who of ‘thunk it’, that a bunch of peace loving hippies could create a bunch of crazy NAZIS.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:36 pm#232 Those darn hippies are scary!! Everything is scary to a righty, it seems.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:37 pmHe just wants to throw more good bodies on a bad idea. Way to think there McCain. Thought out like a real neo-con. You finally made it.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:38 pmNazis are Socialists not Fascists.
Comment by Red Wolf
Where did you go to school? Stupidistan?
August 20th, 2006 at 5:40 pmthink he is going to wire tap them
why does bush crap on the constitution?
why do republicans hate the bill of rights?
and why are republicans so scared?
August 20th, 2006 at 5:40 pmRed Wolf – hate to be the one to tell you this BUT, the Hitler and his Nazi party were FASCISTS and so was Mussolini. And we all know the fate of the Roman Empire. WTF are you drinking or smoking or are you on Meth?
August 20th, 2006 at 5:40 pmthe alliance of Iran, Hezzbollah and Al-Qaeda will triumph
look what republican policy has created.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:41 pmRemember how nice Hitler was to the unions? They were liquidate along with the rest of the targeted groups.
History is lost on the far-right Bush/Coulter Republican idalogues.
-GSD
August 20th, 2006 at 5:42 pmYour a anti-Latin bigot. You North Europeans got your civilization from ours. What did us in was infighting and the rise of your Islamic buddies!
Comment by no not no no
Post over your own name, Red Wolf! You slimy coward!
August 20th, 2006 at 5:44 pmZooey – would “Stupidistan” be anywhere near “Dumf**kistan”?
August 20th, 2006 at 5:47 pmThose ‘Meet the Press’ backdrops are Andy Warhol-esque.
In a hundred years we’ll all be dead, so none of this stuff really matters that much.
John McCain is clearly addled in the head, hands down.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:48 pmWow, Red Wolf, because the Nazi had the word Socialist in it that means they were Socialist? You are not worth talking to. Read something.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:51 pmZooey – would “Stupidistan†be anywhere near “Dumf**kistanâ€?
Comment by Coffins draped with flags
Same neighborhood, Coffins, I was just being generous with the kid from the short bus. I know, silly me…
August 20th, 2006 at 5:52 pmRed Wolf,
You better be careful what you ask for.
You better look at your redstate/bluestate maps to figure out who has the strategic advantages.
-GSD
August 20th, 2006 at 5:52 pmThe Roman Empire imploded. Now go look up that word in the dictionary. Google “The fall of the Roman Empire” if you need further proof. Oh, and don’t forget to read what is posted on the links.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:53 pmName calling is a trait of the liberal left. They can’t engage in honest debate.
Comment by Peter
Yeah, yeah, St Peter. Cowardice is commenting over someone else’s name. Keep on projecting…
August 20th, 2006 at 5:55 pmJesus H! What is this, “Trolls on Parade” Day?
It really burns my butt that TP allows all this crap from the trolls, yet admonishes people who end up saying “Hi” to one another after a thread has been abandoned.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:55 pmThere should be someone monitoring this site every day. It would have saved us all a lot of frustration, and not allowed the posting under other’s names.
And how many times do you guys need to receive a request for a stinking open thread before you do it? (I guess when you start paying attention to the Lieberman debacle! )
Other than that,…
How ’bout that dope McCain? Bush absolutely trashes him in the 2000 race, and a few years later he’s saying,”Thank-you, Sir, may I have another?”
Peter = Sam = Jerry
SSSD
August 20th, 2006 at 5:56 pmMust be a slow news day… isn’t it fun baiting the trolls and reading their stupid remarks? They are too easy and too predictable.
August 20th, 2006 at 5:57 pmHow ’bout that dope McCain? Bush absolutely trashes him in the 2000 race, and a few years later he’s saying,â€Thank-you, Sir, may I have another?â€
Comment by trueblue
Hi trueblue, aren’t you glad you came here today?
August 20th, 2006 at 5:58 pmName calling is a trait of the liberal left. They can’t engage in honest debate.
Comment by Peter — August 20, 2006
Repeat that vapid platitude to George Felix “Frenchie” Allen Jr. and his silly and racist “Macaca” slur on an American.
-GSD
August 20th, 2006 at 5:58 pmName calling is a trait of the liberal left. They can’t engage in honest debate.
Comment by Peter
August 20th, 2006 at 5:59 pm—————-
So you’re calling us name callers.That’s name calling.
Actually the troll list has been updated. It now features:
Zooey
Dixie Blood
Bones
More to be added later.
Comment by Peter
That’s just adorable!
August 20th, 2006 at 6:00 pmPeter just added you to the troll list, Zooey!!!!!!
At first I was thinking, “Don’t you be messin’ with the real posters!” but then I thought about who printed it, and I guess I just felt bad for the poor slob.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:01 pmI can see that Red Wolf didn’t read the Fall of the Roman Empire.
Hi – trueblue. We were just playing with the trolls, kind of like how a cat plays with a mouse.
Yeah, McCain is a big disappointment. I find it strange that someone would kiss up to Bush after Bush trashed his family. It’s one thing to have somone trash them, but trashing their family is low even by fascists standards.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:01 pmThe last I checked, George W. Bush had a net approval rating in four states. Four landlocked states. Utah, Wyoming, Idaho and I think Kansas.
That is one heckuva strategic disadvantage.
-GSD
August 20th, 2006 at 6:02 pmLiberals are drug addicts
Rush is liberal? when did that happen?
August 20th, 2006 at 6:02 pmActually the troll list has been updated. It now features:
Zooey
Dixie Blood
Bones
More to be added later.
Comment by Peter
August 20th, 2006 at 6:02 pm————–
A troll-troll is a non-troll.
Red Wolf is ignorant and Peter is stupid. It has Socialist in the name so they’re socialists….LMAO!
August 20th, 2006 at 6:03 pmPeter just added you to the troll list, Zooey!!!!!!
Comment by trueblue
If you try real hard, you might make the list, too. Good luck!
Maybe Peter will email Judd and tell on us. Then we’d be in trouble!
August 20th, 2006 at 6:03 pmHey, GSD,
August 20th, 2006 at 6:03 pmYou forgot the guy who is always accusing Liberals of name calling, but is the King of it – Bill O’Reilly!
He even accussed John Dean of name – calling in his book!
#278 – hey, where’s my name?
Red Wolf, you may want to check with the person that supplies your meth… it’s beginning to rot you brain… like an egg frying in a pan.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:04 pmThis is the same Jerry, Sam guy with different names. And the stupidity is exactly the same. You know if you’re going to be a troll, at least you could try to be interesting, God how boring.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:05 pm“Macaca†slur on an American.
Calling somebody a shithead is not racist.
Comment by Peter
Wow, you bought that lame excuse hook, line and sinker, didn’t you? Gul-li-bull
August 20th, 2006 at 6:06 pmSo it’s settled. Bush won’t address a hypothetical where he has unlimited power and resources.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:07 pmFascism is the Natural Order
no, Fascism is a man created order. Anarchy is a natural order.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:07 pmWe were just playing with the trolls, kind of like how a cat plays with a mouse.
Comment by Coffins draped with flags
You guys have a better stomach for them, I guess.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:07 pmI’m over here throwing up a hair-ball!
Stupid, fat, and boring is no way for you to go thru life kid. Come back after you get an education, drop 200 lbs, and get a personality.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:07 pmDixie blood – you are truly brilliant! I’m sure you understand that the trolls won’t comprehend your definition of Nazi/facsist.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:07 pmand his silly and racist “Macaca†slur on an American.
Calling somebody a shithead is not racist.
Comment by Peter
————
Do tell.
What does calling a person– that one has never before laid eyes upon, a shithead, make one?
August 20th, 2006 at 6:08 pmSteve53 = nym@alias.net
sorry, sybil, been around much longer than that.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:08 pmThe last I checked, George W. Bush had a net approval rating in four states. Four landlocked states. Utah, Wyoming, Idaho and I think Kansas.
That is one heckuva strategic disadvantage.
-GSD
Comment by GSD — August 20, 2006 @ 6:02
Only four states? That’s what isolation and inbreeding will get ya.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:09 pmIf you try real hard, you might make the list, too. Good luck!
August 20th, 2006 at 6:11 pmComment by Zooey
…ooooohhhhh, I just hope I don’t get picked last. :)
Macaca (also written as macaque) is a dismissive epithet used by Francophone colonials in Africa for native populations of North and Subsaharan Africans.[1] It is derived from the name of the genus comprised of the macaque primates.
So I guess the only s&%$head here is wolf/sam/jerry/peter
August 20th, 2006 at 6:12 pmand remember folks, america was attacked on republican watch.
republicans failed america then, they fail america now. why else do we need more troops in iraq.
have you ever wondered why it took less time to get hitler than bin Laden?
August 20th, 2006 at 6:13 pmThat’s what isolation and inbreeding will get ya.
Comment by Coffins draped with flags
Hey! Watch it, Coffins! We in Idaho only love GWB second best to Utah. And no matter what trueblue says, I never picked up anyone at a family reunion.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:13 pmHoward Dean has a net approval in zero states. Neither does Harry Reid nor Nancy Pelosi.
Comment by Peter
Ouch! Grammar, Peter, grammar. You’re making my hair stand on end.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:14 pmZooey – touche :)
August 20th, 2006 at 6:15 pmSteve53 = nym@alias.net
It is the same troll. Ignore him.
Comment by Peter
————-
Sorry.Wrong.
Bizzaro troll confused.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:15 pmRed Wolf – where are you? Calling your meth dealer to see if he spiked your last purchase?
August 20th, 2006 at 6:16 pmRed Wolf – where are you
if sybil is hit hard enough, you can watch the persona change in real time.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:17 pmwhy did republicans let america get attacked?
August 20th, 2006 at 6:18 pmMcCain should be appreciative that he didn’t come home in a coffin draped with a flag like over 56,000 other American did, arriving at Dover Air Force Base in Dover, DE. I can remember those days… all those coffins and the war was on TV and you saw people dying and the coffins coming home… Someone on an earliler comment stated that McCain is beginning to show the results of Agent Orange. I agree. In 30 or less years, we will begin to see the results of depleted uranium on the very troops that served in Iraq, the ones that didn’t come home in coffins draped with flags.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:20 pm…you just love to throw me under the bus, dontcha, Zooey?
August 20th, 2006 at 6:20 pm(psst, it was her first cousin…. I saw ‘em!)
yes, press the ignore button.
truth speaks for itself peter.
why did republicans let america get attacked?
August 20th, 2006 at 6:21 pmOh now Peter is channeling Allen, and knows what he was thinking, which wasn’t what the word means but something just as bad, so it’s ok, see the reasoning? …Really LMAO.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:22 pm…you just love to throw me under the bus, dontcha, Zooey?
(psst, it was her first cousin…. I saw ‘em!)
Comment by trueblue
Just checking to see if you’re paying attention! Besides, my only male first cousin is a prison guard, and he had handcuffs…and an authoriative manner…and I’d had a beer…
August 20th, 2006 at 6:24 pmSeptember 11, the day the republicans let america get attacked
August 20th, 2006 at 6:24 pmHow do these guys breathe without a brainstem?
August 20th, 2006 at 6:24 pmPeter, you dumbf**k graduate of Stupidistan High, it is the US that is using depleted uranium in our bombs. You must have shit for brains or you too are doing too much meth. With all the NSA spying going on, traitor Rove knows where all the meth heads are and then directs them to his perceived enemies blogs.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:24 pmSteve53 = nym @ alies.net = Zooey
Put him on ignore.
Comment by Peter
August 20th, 2006 at 6:25 pm———–
If so(not),we are one.You are zero.
#199 Outernet; Try free republic but you will get only one shot, because they WILL delete you immediately and BAN you from posting again. I did it yesterday. Great believers in “fair and balanced” and freedom of speech aren’t they?
August 20th, 2006 at 6:26 pm#330 – because they are zombies….
Hey trueblue and zooey, is there something I should know about? Something that you are hiding from me? :)
August 20th, 2006 at 6:26 pmHow do these guys breathe without a brainstem?
Comment by bones
Trolls — powered by brain farts. Intermittent and unreliable power, but they really stink up the joint. (TM)
August 20th, 2006 at 6:27 pm500 WMD’s were found in peter’s shorts.
unfortunatly, there was no peter found there.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:27 pmTrolls – they ugly looking too.
Peter, are these the same WMDs that Ricky Rooster was crowing about? Ha – now you are getting really funny.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:29 pmPeter, helping embarass the republicans still willing to identify themselves with the party.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:29 pmCoffins,
August 20th, 2006 at 6:29 pmSome things are better left unearthed.. ;)
if america is winning in iraq, why do we need to send more troops there?
August 20th, 2006 at 6:30 pmSteve53 = nym @ alies.net = Zooey
Wow. I’m flattered!
Peter, just so you know, Steve53 and I have great minds, but we are of different sexes.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:30 pmBush is going to airdrop Peter in and he’ll talk them to death.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:31 pmOooo – I hear pots and pans rattling. Guess my husband is starting dinner. Catch up with you later. Keep baiting the trolls. They are so easy. Later tonight, I’m going to look for Stupidistan on the map. Bet it’s red with a swasika marking it’s capital.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:32 pmSomething that you are hiding from me? :)
Comment by Coffins draped with flags
Why? What have you heard? :}
August 20th, 2006 at 6:32 pmBush is going to airdrop Peter in and he’ll talk them to death.
Comment by bones
I know I’m close to life support as is.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:33 pmI’m only fighting on ’cause I know Zooey would pull the plug!
Before I sign off, take a peek at the headline on Buzzflash.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:35 pmI’m only fighting on ’cause I know Zooey would pull the plug!
Comment by trueblue
I’m hurt! *sniff*
August 20th, 2006 at 6:35 pmthe GOP has lost their way, look whom they have supporting them
August 20th, 2006 at 6:36 pmJust read Blair has privately agreed with his Deputy Prime minister in front of witnesses, called Bush “crap” because he feels betrayed by Chimpey-the-Clown.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:36 pmGuess my husband is starting dinner.
Comment by Coffins draped with flags
The. Most. Erotic. Words. Ever.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:38 pmyou still lookin for those wmds peter?
post a link when you find them
August 20th, 2006 at 6:40 pmThis is the “smartest thing” Blair has ever said:
The source said: “We all feel badly let down by Bush. We thought we had persuaded him to take the Israel-Palestine situation seriously, but we were wrong. How can anyone have faith in a man of such low intellect?”
So now we’re down to just Israel on our side?
August 20th, 2006 at 6:41 pmMccane has his nose so far up bush’s butt Frit’s will have to help surgicly remove it. Oh I forgot his expertese is cat killing not rectal removal..Oh well! Hope for mccanes sake bush and company don’t stop to quick he will be lost forever…..LOL.
The troll and roaches are scared and throwing crap today. They have to make lot’s of apparences or their check’s will not be sent out next week….I wonder if they all have little cubicles at the white house, camp david or the crawford ranch. Can’t you all see it now bush/cheney or dead eyed rice handing out their copy to them all for the day…..They all sound and act the same…..spam…For breakfast bet bushco put pep pills in their pablum. Stupid light weights and they think the reich wingers are the only one’s with guns…dumbasses all….Pass over their drivel… Their just mad the buttermilk got stuck in their straws..
Funny post’s Zooey and Coffins….I’m off to run with the wolves…..Blessings
August 20th, 2006 at 6:41 pmI’m hurt! *sniff*
August 20th, 2006 at 6:42 pmComment by Zooey
Oh No! You’re not going to get me with that again! I’m on to you!
Peter = Sam = Jerry
August 20th, 2006 at 6:42 pmI’m on to you!
Comment by trueblue
Um, don’t say that, Peter will comment…prematurely.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:44 pmsince sybil , (aka: Peter, sam, jerry, et all), seems to be attempting evolution, does that say creationism is dead?
damned it, i want my flying spegetti monster!
August 20th, 2006 at 6:45 pmI’m off to run with the wolves…..Blessings
Comment by Sharon Cox
Have a great evening, Sharon. I’m gone soon, too.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:45 pmForked tongue McCain’s son is joining the Marines this fall. He should lead the charge. And John you could follow up your son since you are so smart. Where were you 2 years ago when this might have helped? Oh, that right, you were too busy kissing W’s ass to question inadequate troop levels. Way too late, Forked Tongue, you are going down with the war.
August 20th, 2006 at 6:46 pmGet a life liberal
August 20th, 2006 at 6:52 pm
Steve53 = nym @ alies.net = Zooey
Wow. I’m flattered!
Peter, just so you know, Steve53 and I have great minds, but we are of different sexes.
Comment by Zooey
August 20th, 2006 at 6:55 pm————–
Now I’m flattered,Zooey!
Now I’m flattered,Zooey!
Comment by Steve53
Mutual Admiration Society (TM)
:)
August 20th, 2006 at 6:56 pmCome on, Uncle Ho! You can do better than that!
August 20th, 2006 at 6:57 pmHey, dixie blood,
August 20th, 2006 at 6:58 pmGreat definition of Fascism
Have you seen this from Northern Sun?
EARLY WARNING SIGNS OF FASCISM
Powerful and continuing Nationalism
Disdain for Human Rights
Indentification of Enemies as Unifying Cause
Supremacy of the Military
http://www.northernsun.com/
Hiya Zooey. Get some troll-whacking done this weekend? So how was ‘Snakes’? :)
August 20th, 2006 at 6:58 pmSHOOT! Hit wrong button!
August 20th, 2006 at 6:59 pmRest of list will follow!
Dixie, they make up facts, then ignore when caught and confronted. Ever notice?
August 20th, 2006 at 7:00 pmhave the rupublican spam bots come up with the link to the WMD’s yet?
no link?
there were no WMDs in iraq.
republicans lie.
August 20th, 2006 at 7:02 pm………
Rampant Sexism
Controlled Mass Media
Obsession with National Security
Religion and Government Intertwined
Corporate Power Protected
Labor Party Suppressed
Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fraudulent Elections
Sound familiar?
Sorry for the half post, but if you don’t already get the catalog, Northern Sun is great!
August 20th, 2006 at 7:02 pma vote for republican is a vote for fascism.
a vote for republican, is a vote for another attack on america.
August 20th, 2006 at 7:04 pmif america is winning why do we need to send more troops to iraq?
August 20th, 2006 at 7:06 pmSo how was ‘Snakes’? :)
Comment by Ho Chi Minh
It was absolutely dreadful, but I had so much fun watching it!
My son and I were in an audience of University students, and when Samuel L. Jackson got to his trademark line, we were all jumping up and down cheering like a bunch of idiots. It was GREAT!
August 20th, 2006 at 7:11 pmNorthern Sun is great!
Comment by trueblue
I just found the newest sticker for my car — Mudflap Man. *all tingly*
August 20th, 2006 at 7:13 pm#326 trueblue. Let me guess. Hmmm. Sounds like…Nazi Germany. Right? Right?
August 20th, 2006 at 7:14 pmHi Ho Chi Minh,
August 20th, 2006 at 7:19 pmHope you got my post from last night re: Dean. If not, again, it was meant to stop trolls in their tracks, and not suppossing you didn’t know who Dean was…..
Anyway, you’re very clever! 1930’s Germany is correct! Anything more recent…? Hmmmmmm??? :)
I’d have to say at least 11 out of the 14 are blatant right now, how about you, my fellow posters? What do you think?
Rampant Sexism
Controlled Mass Media
Obsession with National Security
Religion and Government Intertwined
Corporate Power Protected
Labor Party Suppressed
Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fraudulent Elections
Sound familiar?
Comment by trueblue
We are living it now.
August 20th, 2006 at 7:24 pmtrueblue; missed your post last night re: Dean. Recent? Let me see… USA under King George W. in 2006.
August 20th, 2006 at 7:24 pmHo Chi Minh: you win the Grand Prize!!!
Unfortunately, under GWB’s rule, it’s a one way ticket to Guantanamo!
(That’s what you get for speaking out! ;)
August 20th, 2006 at 7:26 pmtrueblue; ooops. my bad, yes I saw your post about JOHN Dean, I was just now thinking HOWARD Dean. Sorry.
August 20th, 2006 at 7:28 pmtrueblue; ooops. my bad, yes I saw your post about JOHN Dean, I was just now thinking HOWARD Dean. Sorry.
August 20th, 2006 at 7:28 pmYeah, re: Dean, last night,
August 20th, 2006 at 7:29 pmI didn’t mean any kind of offense. I was looking to stop any troll in their tracks who would try to paint Dean as a Liberal.
Sorry.
Funny!!!
August 20th, 2006 at 7:29 pmIt’s all good then!
“The street of our Country are in turmoil. The universities are full of rebellion and rioting. Communists (Terrorists) are seeking to destroy our Country. Russia (Viet Nam, Iraq, Iran, Syria) is threatening us with her might and the republic is in danger.
Yes, danger from within and from without. We need law and order. Without law and order our nation cannot survive.
Elect (reelect) us and we shall restore law and order. We will be respected by the nations of the world for law and order. Without law and order our republic will fail.”
Adolph Hitler, 1932
August 20th, 2006 at 7:30 pmRichard M. Nixon, 1968
Robert Dole, 1996
George W. Bush, 2003
George W. Bush, 2004
George W. Bush, 2005
George W. Bush, 2006
Iraq is a mess, we have to solution.
1- Send more troop; to try to settle the mess…
2-Leave Iraq and let the irakis live with that mess…
August 20th, 2006 at 7:34 pmClyde, They DO sound all alike don’t they. I would be laughing if it weren’t tragic and true. Logging off for now, I’ll check back a little later.
August 20th, 2006 at 7:35 pmHistory Channel did a two day look @ the rise of Hitler, and the role his inner circle played.
I hate to admit (or more correctly, am AFRAID to admit)
August 20th, 2006 at 7:38 pmthat more than a few times I found myself able to draw paralleles.
Scary times.
Bumper sticker searches.. Any one seen this one…..Washington told the truth. Nixon told lies…….Bush can’t tell the diffrence…….Blessings all
August 20th, 2006 at 7:44 pmTrue,
There is one BIG difference:
Hitler was well spoken and a leader.
There is one BIG similarity:
Hitler had crooks and corrupt malcontents for advisers.
I agree: IT DO GET SCARY!
August 20th, 2006 at 7:52 pmGoing to spend quality time with mini-blue.
August 20th, 2006 at 7:53 pmBe back later.
(Nice to see some 20-30 posts have been deleted. Thank you, TP. I take back [almost] everything! oooopennnn thrrrreeaaddddd!)
Hope your run with the wolves was cathartic, Sharon.
Blessings to you.
Not to get off topic, but this just came in from AP, from a press reporter on the Airplane with the so called Ramsey killer.
JonBenet suspect heads to U.S. in style
By JOCELYN GECKER,
Associated Press Writer
42 minutes ago
ABOARD THAI AIRWAYS TO LOS ANGELES – John Mark Karr, the suspect in the death of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey, sipped champagne and ate fried king prawns in business class Sunday after being put aboard a flight to Los Angeles to face charges in the United States.
As Karr wined and dined in style and chatted with the three U.S. officials escorting him, another bombshell emerged: Reports that Karr sought treatment at a Thai sex-change clinic.
His Thai Airways International flight took off about 8 p.m. (9 a.m. EDT) for the 15-hour flight to Los Angeles. Karr’s journey will eventually end in Boulder, Colo., where he is expected to face charges of first-degree murder, kidnapping and child sexual assault in connection with the young beauty queen’s 1996 killing.
Karr, dressed neatly in a red, short-sleeve, button-down shirt and black tie, was not handcuffed while being whisked through Don Muang International Airport in Bangkok. At the departure gate, he talked amiably with fellow passengers.
The 41-year-old teacher sat in a business class window seat next to Mark Spray, an investigator with the Boulder County District Attorney’s office. A U.S. Embassy official and an agent with “Homeland Security†on his T-shirt were also part of the escort party.
Yesterday I posted this.
My guess is he is some sort of child perv, who the republicans had something on.
They leaned on him, and promised him a deal of some sort if he’d confess to the Ramsey killings. Since he was already likely facing prosecution on some other issue, leaning on him was easy.
Sound pretty close?
Comment by WORFEUS — August 19, 2006 @ 11:19 pm
When I wrote that yesterday I never guessed I’d be reading about the killer being wined and dined by DHS. I imagined they’d keep that sort of stuff under wraps until the story wasn’t so hot. I figured they’d make the guy at least “look” like he was having a bad time.
I never guessed they’d be feeding him champagne and king prawns (whatever the hell a prawn is) the very next day. And putting a DHS guy with him?
I guess they still feel like they’re untouchable.
I really hope I’m not the only one noticing this…
August 20th, 2006 at 7:53 pmVery well put, Clyde!
August 20th, 2006 at 7:54 pmI’ll talk to you soon!
Jonbenet is shiny shit thrown at the masses to make them “look over there”. With all that is going on in the world the Jonbenet Media is focusing on the least consequencial story of all.
Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, Tureky and Iran shelling Kurdistan.
Look over there, it is a dead child beauty queen. They might as well start building vomitoriums and throwing people to the lions for entertainment too.
-GSD
August 20th, 2006 at 8:08 pmIts more than that GSD.
If someone is using the Department of Homeland security like a domestic CIA, leaning on some child perv to get him to confess to a murder he didn’t commit to offset a news story, then this is much more than a little smoke and mirrors.
August 20th, 2006 at 8:22 pm(whatever the hell a prawn is)
It’s a giant shrimp, Worfeus.
Department of Homeland Security? WTF? The FBI should be bringing that little faker back to the US in a cargo hold, like any other kiddy diddler.
August 20th, 2006 at 8:29 pm(August 18, 2006 — 11:42 PM EST // link)
Number of reporters contributing to Friday’s front page New York Times story on the JonBenet Ramsey case: 13
Number of reporters contributing to Friday’s front page New York Times story on the federal court ruling that the NSA warrantless wiretapping program is unconstitutional: 2
– TPM Reader DK
August 20th, 2006 at 8:32 pmfrom TalkingPoints Memo
A prawn is a shrimp. Not to be confused with blood-relatives of the President.
August 20th, 2006 at 8:35 pmAh. Shrimp.
Thanks Zooey.
Yes. DHS has been involved since day 1 on this. DHS answers to the White House.
The same day Ned Lamont beats their pal Lieberman, the story gets quashed because Jon Bonets supposed killer “suddenly” confesses out of the blue.
And even though the guys in Thailand, the US Department of Homeland Security is involved from the get go.
That night, every news channel plasters the news about the killer and all but ignores the Lamont victory, once more killing bad press for the President and killing good press for the Democrats.
We all think it looks suspicious, then a day or so later we find the guy being wined and dined by DHS, on a “business class” flight (I didn’t know they served champagne in business class), eating fancy shrimp, sitting comfortably and WITH NO HANDCUFFS.
It doesn’t smell.
It REAKS.
August 20th, 2006 at 8:38 pmDeaprtment of Homeland Security, protecting us from terrorists at home and abroad.
[/scarcasm]
August 20th, 2006 at 8:40 pmOr you can put it this way, Briseadh na Faire:
Department of Homeland Security, protecting George W. Bush’s ass, at home and abroad.
August 20th, 2006 at 8:50 pmOne more question and then I’ll stop being a thread detractor.
Does anyone recall seeing this guy before?
Isn’t this the guy that was on the news a while back, who got arrested in Thailand for having sex with minors over there? Wasn’t he facing life in prison already in a Thai prison for that?
Help me out here.
August 20th, 2006 at 8:55 pmthe http bug is back.
August 20th, 2006 at 9:03 pmhi, zooey…
isn’t it just fascinating that tp deleted every single one of my *real* posts from this thread, but, KEPT all the troll impostor ones!!!! that was not a simple task since i posted the real posts from a number of different places… in other words, they purposely left the fake ones posted; else, they could have simply deleted all posts by ‘no not no no’…
i did a compare on the old and the new html files…quite interesting to see how these guys edit…
next time you talk to the boys at georgetown, maybe you can ask them exactly what they are afraid of :)
peace,
jr
August 20th, 2006 at 9:14 pmWave goodbye to your presidential hopes Mr. McCain. The American people are not stupid.
Why do so many people say that Americans are not stupid? Randi Rhodes and many others say it quite frequently. Bush has been in the White House for almost 6 years. How could that be if Americans are not stupid?
August 20th, 2006 at 9:16 pmRead “Polls Show Many Americans are Simply Dumber Than Bush: Blind Ignorance” by Paul Craig Roberts.
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August 20th, 2006 at 9:16 pmHi j,
I noticed that. Obviously, they can tell the difference. You, my dear, are held to a different, more bizaar, standard.
August 20th, 2006 at 9:21 pmbizaar? bizarre? Yeah, bizarre looks right. Sorry.
August 20th, 2006 at 9:24 pmyes, i know they despise me and are afraid of even talking to me let alone letting me speak publically, but, it is particularly cowardly to LEAVE the fake ones… i thought it was poor when they would allow the troll attack, and then delete my response, but, i think this is probably worse…
i guess they think i will eventually stop shining a light on their hypocrisy ?
anyway, you have got to see this youtube if you haven’t….it is good for a sunday laugh. i hope it goes through…
[delete this]
August 20th, 2006 at 9:29 pmj, I have dial-up, no way I’m going to try to watch that. Describe it to me!
August 20th, 2006 at 9:33 pmhi, z.
well, this is tiresome. anyway, i wanted to send you this link to a funny video…
j
August 20th, 2006 at 9:33 pmit is some redneck idiot getting pulled over by the POOOOLLLice in florida, i think, for speeding and for having a loud radio…
he was listening to BILL O and was, well, it might be worth a listen :)
August 20th, 2006 at 9:35 pmYou’re making it too easy for them!
August 20th, 2006 at 9:35 pmIf a man has spent 6 years in a Viet Cong POW camp, why do we consider him a hero? Because he survived the 6 years while others died? What was his great accomplishment other than surviving?
The media makes McCain out to be a hero, but he is the Manchurian Candidate that we need to fear.
He is not that intelligent, has a terrible personality and has been identified (by his staff) at cursing at things that don’t go his way, and has a war monger attitude that doesn’t have a lot of logic behind his “philosophies”….but the press has great access to him and loves him because of that, so the propaganda of McCain continues…..
Please spare us this attempt to MAKE McCain the next President…….
McCain is a very Dangerous Candidate for the US….
Oh, by the way, anyone know how much AIPAC money is behind McCain? I’d love to see that number…………………..hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……………………..
August 20th, 2006 at 9:38 pmj, I gotta go. My son is just begging to have an argument with him, and I’m going to give him his fondest wish. I don’t know where he gets his hard head — must be his father. :D
TP, when you delete jr, go ahead and delete my responses to him. Otherwise, I end up looking like a complete dipshit, and it’s really not a good look for me. K?
August 20th, 2006 at 9:39 pmThat video is priceless.
It is a perfect example of how the right views EVERYONE.
They glorify the police, until they dare to disagree with them on anything.
Then even this policeman, who was polite and professional through the whole incident, even this guy is now going “straight to hell”, cause he dared give a ticket to an O’Reilly listener.
Fantastic video. What a find. I wonder how they got it?
August 20th, 2006 at 9:41 pmWhat was his great accomplishment other than surviving?
Comment by scared of McCain….the Manchurian Candidate…. — August 20, 2006 @ 9:38 pm
When John McCain had the opportunity to leave the most notorious hellish prison camp in all VietNam, he instead opted to let his buddies go first, and ended up enduring another year of hell for it.
That kind of sacrifice is one that earns him some respect.
I’d never vote for him. But I respect him.
August 20th, 2006 at 9:45 pmFirst-Hand Knowledge:
Business Class on Thai Air is THE way to fly between LAX and Bangkok. I would have almost confessed if I were guaranteed that flight. Coach on Thai Air is better than First Class on Northwest.
August 20th, 2006 at 9:46 pmClyde.
That doesn’t even come close to explaining what a child molester and a murderer, was doing sitting in shorts, with NO HANDCUFFS, sipping champagne and eating shrimp with a Department of Homeland Security officer.
No Handcuffs?
For an accused murderer?
And whats DHS doing there?
August 20th, 2006 at 9:50 pm#342 – good observation, clyde.
Hi – great dinner, only I had to help make it so it wasn’t as sexy as Zooey had suggested. Anyway, it tasted good and the wine was excellent.
And the answer to trueblue is……..drum roll please….. NAZI Germany… the very home of the dumpkoft trolls.
August 20th, 2006 at 9:51 pm#362 – are you referring to the folks from Stupidistan? I did find it on the map and it was red and it did have a swastika. wow… it was part of the USA and the footnote indicated that Stupidistan had the highest divorce rates and suck on the teet of the US Government. Interesting.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:01 pmWORFEUS,
We all know the answer to that. The freak is a shill and the DPS clowns are on a paid vacation. Bushco/Turdblossom never expected the media to advertise the fact–they got caught with their pedophile down. He would have been brought back here and in a year or two the charges would have been dropped and he would fly first class to some secluded island with a lot of young girls. Meanwhile Thailand is counting the massive aid that they just received for some dear project. Maybe GAO could find out the numbers.
The flake is not too dumb, however, Bangkok is our favorite place outside the US. We try to make at least one trip a year to shop at the weekend market.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:02 pmPeople, trolls, like the boogie man only exist with your help. Ignore them and they will dwindle. It is no fun for them when you don’t take the bait. See how much time and space is devoted to responding to their stupidity instead of the thougtful exchange of intelligent ideas. Just one opinion.
~ gun-toting pacifist.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:02 pmClyde – do you travel to Thailand on a regular baisis and do you live in Eastern PA?
August 20th, 2006 at 10:07 pmWORFEUS
Seriously, thank you for letting me know that he let others go first out of the POW camp. I didn’t know that. I admire you for saying that you still wouldn’t vote for him…..
John McCain is not the person we want to run our country going forward. I have to admit, I’m not sure who that next great person is going to be or who should be that person, but I know it definitely should NOT be McCain (or Hillary……god forbid she is the Dem’s candidate….)
August 20th, 2006 at 10:10 pmMcCain wants more of this…http://www.peacetakescourage.com/iraqprogress.mov
August 20th, 2006 at 10:12 pmClyde – I asked the question only because I have a friend that travels to Thailand at least once/year to visit his parents and I thought maybe you were him. After reading a further post in which you referred to “we”, then I knew you weren’t him.
peace takes courage.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:14 pmI hear you Clyde. Its just this time its so blatant its insane.
I mean feeding him Champagne and shrimp and trotting him around like a hero?
Its like they’re so unabashed, that no one notices.
This one someones GOT to call them on.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:14 pmMTP replay is on now and I am seeing for myself that McCain is nothing but double-talk.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:15 pmHe doesn’t like Rumsfeld, but Bush should keep him.
We need more troops, but we don’t.
There is not a civil war yet, but the generals are right.
He has confidence in W, even though he’s made (many) mistakes.
He’s confident that Bush will do the right thing, even though all his advisors are wrong.
WTF is wrong with this man?!
His name is popular among the brain dead repugs who will vote for him, but if they listen to him they might see the folly of a vote for him.
McCain is also criticizing the court ruling this week against the illegal NSA wiretapping.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:19 pmLike so many politicos, he is critical of the judge’s wording, and so he throws out the ruling – critics are neglecting to note that the crux of the ruling was that Bush has been operating outside of the law and there is no defense.
If there is a retroactive absolution (Specter’s so called compromise) it will still mean that Bush has broken federal law more than 30 times.
There is a felon in the White House and no one will say so, much less throw him out.
And then there’s this about Turdblossom: http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=7684
August 20th, 2006 at 10:21 pmMy god… Please anyone who supports this war then put a uniform on and get over there. Otherwise shutup about how there will be chaos and bla bla bla… America has lost the war in Iraq a long time ago. The war is over. We are a disgrace in the eyes of the rest of the world and now the rest of the world knows that America is weak and stupid overall. We have a great military but poor leadership. Lets bring the troops home before any more lives are totally wasted. The war in Iraq is not a war on terror. Its a war of personal revenge of one stupid selfish evil man named Bush.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:21 pmHi.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:24 pmMy name is John Doe. I’m running for ___________________.
Bush should end the Total Information Awareness program because congress outlawed it in 2004. In it’s place we should implement and fund real security measures here at home, not in Iraq. Thank you.
It really burns my butt that TP allows all this crap from the trolls, yet admonishes people who end up saying “Hi†to one another after a thread has been abandoned.
Comment by trueblue — August 20, 2006 @ 5:55 pm
Im with you, true. I really think TP favors trolls instead of progressive hijackers. :)
August 20th, 2006 at 10:29 pmHi Juan,
August 20th, 2006 at 10:35 pmJust got back online.
What do you think of McCain?
How have you been?
(Make sure to answer both in the same post so it doesn’t look like we’re veering off course of the subject…!) ;)
Just wanted to let you know that I recently enlisted in the Army, and will hopefully be deployed to Iraq soon. I would appreciate your support.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:36 pm(Make sure to answer both in the same post so it doesn’t look like we’re veering off course of the subject…!) ;)
Comment by trueblue — August 20, 2006 @ 10:35 pm
Ha! Yeah, I know what you mean.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:40 pmMcCain…whatever. He is a pathetic, scared little man.
Ive been good. Just coming from some friend´s house. And you? Heard you were in Boston.
I would appreciate your support.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:42 pmComment by Warrior — August 20, 2006 @ 10:36 pm
Im sorry for you. You are gonna fight for some rich guys. You are not gonna get shot for freedom, democracy or whatever. Just for someone else´s profit. Sorry.
McCain sold out to the neocon’s, even after they trashed him as some sort of ass who cheated on his wife and then had her adopt the baby.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:44 pmIt’s sickening.
Yes, was in Boston for the Body Worlds Exhibit. It was incredible!
Mini-blue and I visited some old haunts and had a great time!
I actually am very grateful for the military. Hopefully, they will train me to fly planes so that I can be a career commercial pilot. I couldn’t afford to attend flight school, so the military provides an excellent way for me to train. Plus I can give back to my country.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:46 pm~ gun-toting pacifist.
Comment by Kalifornicated
Weren’t you “gun-toting liberal”, who used to post here a while back?
August 20th, 2006 at 10:46 pmIf so, welcome back!
Warrior,
August 20th, 2006 at 10:48 pmIf you’re in the Army, why do you think they are going to train you to fly a plane??????????
Mini-blue and I visited some old haunts and had a great time!
Comment by trueblue — August 20, 2006 @ 10:44 pm
Haunts? Like ghosts or something? Dont get it.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:48 pmThe human body…yeah, they say it was awesome. I was a little afraid to go. Not a big fan of anatomy…but I understand you are, after the dissection classes or something, right?
It’s not actually the army, it’s the navy. A lot of people just think of the military in the form of army. I was being vague.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:50 pmMcCain’s son enlisted in the Marine Corp very recently…..maybe McCain will know what it’s like to lose a son in Iraq for no damn reason……..He deserves it…..God forbid for saying it, but it’s true….
August 20th, 2006 at 10:50 pmRed Wolf, you are way too stupid. Everybody has a command economy in wartime, fascist, democratic, republic, it doesn’t matter…they are all on wartime footing. Actually, since you hate socialists so much you should be against war since everybody is socialist then. But I wouldn’t expect you to understand logic. You have proven yourself an absolute moron.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:50 pmSorry, Juan,
August 20th, 2006 at 10:52 pm“haunts” is English slang for places a person often frequents.
Some “haunts” would be a favorite bar, or club, or in our case, a mall and a Chinese Food Restaurant!
Warrior,
August 20th, 2006 at 10:53 pmIf you were being vague, you’d say “the military”.
Next troll, please.
or in our case, a mall and a Chinese Food Restaurant!
August 20th, 2006 at 10:54 pmComment by trueblue — August 20, 2006 @ 10:52 pm
mmmm. I just got hungry.
Hey! you havent written to me! I just realized that. Im kidding by the way.
Pardon me trueblue for not using proper terminology. I enlisted in the NAVY
August 20th, 2006 at 10:55 pmI didn’t have time!
Packing.
Troll Hunting.
Shopping.
…but I’m here now!
oops, McCain! McCain! That sell-out!
;)
August 20th, 2006 at 10:56 pmTrueblue…
What do you have against people enlisting in the navy / army / marines anyway?
August 20th, 2006 at 10:56 pmWarrior, I wish you well, but I also wish you had listened to some advice before enlisting.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:58 pmUnfortunately the majority of those volunteering for military service did so for the educational opportunities that would otherwise be out of their reach.
It’s too bad that higher education is not available to anyone who wants it and has the capability to succeed – but as it is now, funds for all those programs are cut, military families are on welfare, and worst of all, wounded vets are given short shrift as VA facilities are closed and underfunded – not to mention that the equipment in Iraq is inadequate and worn out.
Expressing your patriotism and getting a door open in your future is a good thing, but I am afraid that under this chimp-in-chief, your good intentions and admirable traits are being exploited for the oil barons, the wealthy who don’t need a leg up in educational opportunities, and the AWOL guy himself.
Good luck to you.
#406 You are a lying sack of shit. Army? Navy? What is the difference right? Chickenhawk.
August 20th, 2006 at 10:58 pmWhat do you have against people enlisting in the navy / army / marines anyway?
August 20th, 2006 at 10:59 pmComment by Warrior — August 20, 2006 @ 10:56 pm
The question wasnt for me. But let me answer that.
You are being requested for rich people´s war. You get some privileges, like a star, a position, a grade, or something. They get big time money.
Troll Hunting.
Shopping.
;)
Comment by trueblue — August 20, 2006 @ 10:56 pm
Shopping? Are you that kind of people? I dont think so.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:00 pmHmm, do you all think warrior is a troll?
August 20th, 2006 at 11:01 pmIt’s possible, but I will give him the benefit of a doubt for a while.
Thank you Marie.
My family isn’t on welfare, but don’t have $100,000 to send me to pilot school. And of course I don’t have it.
Fortunately, the navy is a great place to learn to fly a plane. Most commercial pilots come from the military.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:01 pmPardon me trueblue for not using proper terminology. I enlisted in the NAVY Comment by Warrior
…or is it Air Corp…
Marines…????
Drop the act and go home.
You have been found out.
You collect no paycheck from Karl.
I support ACTUAL troops.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:01 pmI want them out of a fake war and HOME to their families.
Go ahead and call me un-American, but a dear friend of mine just had to leave his wife and 3 children, for the 3rd time, for who knows how long.
How dare you play on anyones’ sympathies.
Any American knows the divisions of the military.
Don’t think we’re fools.
You have been outed.
LEAVE.
Oh, sorry, warrior, I thought you had said you had enlisted in the army before you said you had enlisted in the navy. My question, though, is do you really think they will train you in what you want them to train you in. I guarantee you it won’t be in your first tour.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:02 pmActually Juan C, I get knowledge. I get the opportunity to learn, where if the navy wasn’t an option, I wouldn’t have the opportunity to pursue my dreams. What $$ amount would you place on that?
August 20th, 2006 at 11:03 pmJuan,
August 20th, 2006 at 11:03 pmPlease don’t bother. He’s a troll.
Warrior, are you a recruiter? You know you have to tell the truth or you are breaking the law, right?
August 20th, 2006 at 11:05 pmTrueBlue….
I suggest you seek some counseling. I am 19 years old, have no family other than my parents, and am trying to advance my career any way I can. Why are you going after me?
August 20th, 2006 at 11:06 pmNo, I am not a recruiter.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:07 pmActually Juan C, I get knowledge.
Comment by Warrior — August 20, 2006 @ 11:03 pm
How much does it cost to use the nearest library to your place?
What $$ amount would you place on that?
Comment by Warrior — August 20, 2006 @ 11:03 pm
I dont believe in wars, Im a pacifist. War is a stupid excuse of so that poor people go to fight other poor people in the name of rich people. As simple as that. Sorry to say that.
Please don’t bother. He’s a troll.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:08 pmComment by trueblue — August 20, 2006 @ 11:03 pm
Oh…
Haven’t you guys read the stories about recruiters going on blogs to drum up business? It was on TPM or Raw Story, or maybe Huffington.
(I read them all so sometimes I can’t pick out just the right one… sorry)
But, yeah, they also go to MySpace, since so many young people blog there.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:08 pmI believe we have our on here on TP.
So Iran wanting to wage war on Israel is the result of defending the rich?
August 20th, 2006 at 11:10 pmYeah trueblue, I don’t buy what he is selling. There is absolutely no reason to come on here and state he signed up and tout the supposed benefits of being in the Navy if he doesn’t have something to sell.
Stay away from my son, Warrior, you parasite.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:10 pmJPark,
August 20th, 2006 at 11:10 pmI’m sure TP can track the IP address…..
Juan C
Do you know of any library that teaches how to fly planes? Please direct me to where that may be, and I will be there in a heartbeat.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:11 pmWarrior, what the hell does Israel have to do with us?
August 20th, 2006 at 11:11 pmI hope you are right trueblue, they don’t seem to be doing the job on the repeat trolls.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:12 pmJPark…
You are insane. I have no interest in your family joining the military. All i asked was for a little support, and obviously I am not going to get it here.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:12 pmDoesn’t everyone know that the military does not train you for what you desire? Nor do they employ you in fields you are knowledgeable.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:13 pmWant to be a cook – they will make you a mechanic.
I heard of a guy who really was an experienced cook get turned into a head-counter so Halliburton could get paid for all the meals it was serving.
Candidate, Tammy Duckworth has said that she had three flavors of ice cream at the mess, but they don’t have proper body armor or armored helicopters.
So Iran wanting to wage war on Israel is the result of defending the rich?
Comment by Warrior — August 20, 2006 @ 11:10 pm
No, fella. Israel trying to take over Palestine, Lebanon, Syria…thats the result of some rich guys plans. Open your eyes. “The road to Damascus” wasnt though yesterday. I do not recall Iran invading other countries, I do recall Israel doing that. Whos the terrorist?
August 20th, 2006 at 11:13 pmJuan,
August 20th, 2006 at 11:13 pmDon’t bother.
Warrior, didn’t you here about that school in Florida that the FBI had under surveillence. You know, the one that trained terrorists to fly? You know, the FBI reports Bush ignored?
August 20th, 2006 at 11:13 pmJuan C said that wars are the result of poor people fighting poor people to defend the rich. Iran wants to wage war on Israel, and I wanted Juan C to further elaborate how that ties into his theory.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:14 pmAs far as I know, and I know because I hung out with them, the ONLY ones who get to FLY JETS are the college graduates who have gone to OFFICER TRAINING SCHOOL. I knew A LOT of Navy aviators back in the 1980’s, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WAS A COLLEGE GRADUATE. When they finish office training – they become ENSIGNS first. If you are enlisting, your chances of EVER flying a jet is NIL.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:15 pmJuan C,
So it’s okay for Iran to destroy Israel?
August 20th, 2006 at 11:15 pmDon’t bother.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:15 pmComment by trueblue — August 20, 2006 @ 11:13 pm
Ok…
So, how are you, then? :)
No, Warrior, you won’t get support for joining the military because with the psychos we have in power it would be pure stupidity to join the military. I don’t have much sympathy for morons. Those who were signed up before these bastards came into power have an excuse. You have none. Enjoy your death (though I have the feeling you will be selling your bullshit Stateside)
August 20th, 2006 at 11:16 pmWarrior is nineteen and an only child!
August 20th, 2006 at 11:16 pmJeezuz Christ! Why didn’t someone stop him?
Wonder where he lives.
On the other hand,
If he is a recruiter, pretending to be a naive kid, what’s he doing here — his bait won’t gain him anyone.
436. I meant to say, enlisting WITHOUT that college degree…..
August 20th, 2006 at 11:16 pmWow JSide…
Who said I was going to die?
August 20th, 2006 at 11:17 pmAll i asked was for a little support, and obviously I am not going to get it here.
Comment by Warrior
Like we’ve already stated, we support and appreciate our troops, that’s why we don’t want them to be target practice in a country we had no business being in, for a made up war that had nothing to do with Iraqies.
You, However, are not one. A real soldier does not go to ANY website for “moral support.”
August 20th, 2006 at 11:17 pmHey chickenwarrior, you didn’t answer. What does Israel have to do with us. Secondly, what kind of idiot thinks Iran will attack them? Do you remember Mutually Assured Destruction or are you too young?
August 20th, 2006 at 11:18 pmWarrior, let’s see. Joining the military and not believing in the chance you will die. Hmmm.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:19 pmI didn’t say Isarel had anything to do with us. All I was asking was for Juan C to elaborate on his theory of wars.
If you don’t think Iran would attack Israel if they could, you are naive and haven’t been following the news.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:20 pmWhat is the percentage of soldiers that have died in Iraq?
August 20th, 2006 at 11:21 pmI’m cool, Juan!
Hope life is treating you OK!
August 20th, 2006 at 11:21 pmZooey was suspicious when we were both off-line for a couple of nights.
Where were you? (nudge-nudge, wink-wink!)
has iran attacked israel?
August 20th, 2006 at 11:21 pmHey Warrior – YOU GOT THAT BACKWARDS! Iran does not HAVE ANY NUCLEAR WEAPONS (YET).
August 20th, 2006 at 11:21 pmand like I said in the above post – the Navy will NOT train you to fly jets WITHOUT that college education. You will learn to SERVICE THE JETS maybe.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:22 pmI have what backwards?
August 20th, 2006 at 11:22 pmWarrior is a pathetic troll…..
August 20th, 2006 at 11:22 pmCan’t even carry the 11:00pm slot!
Your comment about IRAN ATTACKING ISRAEL, warrior.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:23 pmOh, so Israel is going on the record saying that they want Iran destroyed? I must have missed that.
You guys are unbelieveable. The troll verbiage is getting old. I obviously can’t reply back to everyone of your posts. It’s 75 liberals vs. one future soldier.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:25 pm1. What? You were asking Juan to elaborate on his theories on war? No, you weren’t. You were baiting him. You said, “So it’s okay for Iran to destroy Israel?” Tell me why we should care.
2. Naive? Just because Bushco attacks anything that moves does not mean every country is as self-destructive. Israel would wipe Iran off the map.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:25 pmYou tell me the percentage Mr. Recruiter.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:26 pmZooey was suspicious when we were both off-line for a couple of nights.
Where were you? (nudge-nudge, wink-wink!)
Comment by trueblue — August 20, 2006 @ 11:21 pm
So, she thought we met or something? Ha! That would have been funny. I came here but very early or just really late. Here is 10:32 pm. So, I got up earlier and you go to bed earlier.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:26 pmgod forbid she is the Dem’s candidate….)
Comment by anonymous — August 20, 2006 @ 10:10 pm
If she is then its gonna be a banner year for Ralph Nader.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:28 pmFuture soldier? Maybe, if you don’t make your quota. I feel sorry for you.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:28 pmI’m done talking with this group of people. All I have received is insults…..and for what? There isn’t one person in this website that even knows me.
This is a sad sack excuse for a website. My God Bless you all
August 20th, 2006 at 11:29 pmJPark, madashell,
I think we have shown this truly stupid troll his walking papers!
August 20th, 2006 at 11:30 pmGood Work, all!
No Rovian money for you!
This is a sad sack excuse for a website. My God Bless you all
Comment by Warrior — August 20, 2006 @ 11:29 pm
Perhaps we were not nice. I admit that. but if you think that between Iran and Israel, Israel is a victim, then I feel sad for you. And if you really enlist with this idea, Im sad if you die for no valid reason. Take care.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:31 pmIf warrior thinks he has a chance in hell of becoming a Navy aviator, then he was just plain LIED TO. It would take him YEARS, if there was even that opportunity, which I can tell you, there won’t be.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:32 pmHell, there is a first amendment but that gives us the right to keelhaul the stupid as well.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:32 pmI am off for today. Everybody take care.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:35 pmTrue, hope to find you someday. Keep being such a sweetheart. We need a lot people like you. Goodnight.
Yeah, madashell, my friends brother enlisted well before Iraq. He was not trained in the area they had promised him. They said if he re-upped they would swear to god, cross your heart and hope to die, stick a needle and all that (paraphrasing) they would train him in what they promised they would years ago. Give me a break, anybody that believes this Pentagon is either a moron or their job depends on believing what they tell him/her to believe.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:36 pmThey’ll be cuing up the next troll to parade through here today…
Be Alert!
Juan,
August 20th, 2006 at 11:37 pmGood-night! I’ll write you soon.
I had better rest up because they get more clever by the day (that is sarcasm). Have a good night.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:38 pmMadashell, all the comments you made about the military were exactly correct. If this kid is for real, he was sold a lot of bull.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:38 pmI will say one more thing about the navy aviators I knew back in the 80’s. They LOVED flying jets, BUT NOT ONE OF THEM WAS KEEN about any kind of WAR. They played lots of war games, but NEVER HAD TO BOMB ANYONE.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:41 pmMcCain is showing desperation in his quest for the Republican nomination for President by going to the right of George W. Bush. He, of all people, should know what happens when you simply put more boots into a hostile environment as an occupying force. It simply adds to the killing. But I guess that is what happens when one becomes blinded by power.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:43 pm“Twenty Bucks, Same as in Town.” This week: D r i f t g l a s s, Nunya, No Blood for Hubris and the Liberal Avenger.
August 20th, 2006 at 11:48 pmIs theis idiot STONED or STUPID?!
August 20th, 2006 at 11:48 pmWhat the f*ck were true & Juan talking about?
August 21st, 2006 at 12:01 amOKAY TP, why is it that people can take a NAME SOMEONE ALREADY HAS?
August 21st, 2006 at 12:04 ammadashell,
Is someone using your name? That’s been happening a lot today.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:07 amWhat the f*ck were true & Juan talking about?
August 21st, 2006 at 12:16 amComment by Zooey — August 21, 2006 @ 12:01 am
I wouldnt know, but it was very pleasant. :)
No idea, same as the reason TP banned my IPs….very inconsistent behavior…
August 21st, 2006 at 12:17 amHi Juan,
I checked in for a few minutes, and someone mentioned my name? I didn’t think you met! I thought you were writing to each other, and ignoring the rest of the world! That’s what I would do anyway…
August 21st, 2006 at 12:18 amI didn’t think you met! I thought you were writing to each other, and ignoring the rest of the world! That’s what I would do anyway…
Comment by Zooey — August 21, 2006 @ 12:18 am
By the way it was brought up to the conversation I thought that was what you had possibly thought. Its all a game in a good spirit. And, yes, I was responding warrior, but true told me not to. Cant argue with a lady. :)
August 21st, 2006 at 12:21 amCant argue with a lady. :)
Comment by Juan C
You should never try, it’s a lost cause. :)
August 21st, 2006 at 12:24 amI must be going now. Goodnight, Juan, it’s been fun, as always! See you soon!
August 21st, 2006 at 12:28 amZoo. Just got myself looking Messi´s videos on youtube.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:29 amI saw the Snakes in a plane´s trailer. Cant see that. Never. Wouldnt be able to sleep ever again.
This is a sad sack excuse for a website. My God Bless you all
Comment by Warrior — August 20, 2006 @ 11:29 pm
Hey thats funny stuff.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:29 amThis is so surreal Not one person who is involved in the Iraq/Israel debacle has even a hint of how to get out of it and they all know it, but still, they get paid to open their mouths and so they do. They all have their own personal THE SOLUTION, which they secretly know is nothing more than flailing in the dark, but they’ve got to say something so they flap their lips and pray that no one catches on. Bizarre and bizarrer!
August 21st, 2006 at 12:29 amSee you soon!
August 21st, 2006 at 12:30 amComment by Zooey — August 21, 2006 @ 12:28 am
Sure, Zoo. Be well.
Wouldnt be able to sleep ever again.
Comment by Juan C
We can sleep when we’re dead, my dear! Goodnight!
August 21st, 2006 at 12:36 amI am reminded of the Waltons….
August 21st, 2006 at 12:51 amAcutally, it is fine that some want more troops in Viet Nam– er I mean Iraq.
Just do it legitimately, discuss it on the up and up in Congress; initiate a draft without loopholes for Senators and Reps sons.
Next wait for the election results.
Voila! NO MORE NEOCON INFLUENCE! 8-)
HOORAH!
August 21st, 2006 at 1:06 amWarrior,
August 21st, 2006 at 1:25 amBlind patriotism is not the path of a true warrior. Your thread of postings lacks consistency and comphrension. If you are a 19 year old and truly want to serve your country pursue a thread that seeks to unite not divide. Every male in my family has served in the armed forces. I lost confidence
in anything John McCain had to say after his patronizing treatment of The New Schools graduating
speaker who was full of promise and idealism.
nym@alias.net;
Why did you repeatedly invoke my screen name yesterday? Did someone hi-jack my name? I didn’t post at all here yesterday.You made many other false allegations as well.
August 21st, 2006 at 3:05 amHas Bush caught Mcain with a goat?
Waht a nutbar
August 21st, 2006 at 6:47 amPaul Krugman writes about “Tax farmers, mercenaries and viceroys.â€
Meanwhile, Bob Herbert tells us that, in George W. Bush’s world, the truth won’t exactly set you free.
August 21st, 2006 at 6:57 amIf the traitorous neocons in this country would watch things like History channels special on George Washington last night they would be able to comprehend what a REAL American is all about. If they love Israel more than America by all means LEAVE and live in Israel. If you believe in chest thumping waring for the state then by all means LEAVE and join the russian army to be among your own kind.
George Washington == honor and integrity… the strengths that made him great.
George Bush, Inc. == false bravado, ignorance, and a smirk…
August 21st, 2006 at 8:15 amThe PSA for House Resolution 635 by After Downing Street.Org needs to be on prime time TV, not on Air America-
August 21st, 2006 at 8:28 amGet your Macaca T-Shirts at Zazzle! (no not at Japissi)
August 21st, 2006 at 8:43 amhttp://www.zazzle.com/product/235390623035311805
August 21st, 2006 at 8:44 amGood Morning All, hot off the CNN blast a news sound bites is this tidbit…Bull shit bush to give press confrence @ 10 A.M. this morning. Don’t know if that’s est. or pdt…..Crap another week in bush bizarro world and it starts off listening to the nut case and every new’s caster in the world putting spins on his every stupid word……Must be the beginning of another preemptive war……..Either that or he is going to tell us his ranch in crawford is a real working ranch and he raises horneytoads..How fitting. Excuse me I got it wrong, he entertains horneytoads…….Blessings….Peace
August 21st, 2006 at 8:44 amSharn, probably the Iran thing. They had a 22nd August deadline but the US is going to “graciously” give them until the 31st. Fits right into the scare ‘em policy of Bush prior to an election. Another “Muslim” boogeyman that wants to kill you.
August 21st, 2006 at 8:49 amlook it’s not a bad theory, but… the current people in charge cannot be trusted to put aside their ideology to competently run the military, so it’s a stupid suggestion.
Poor McCain still thinks that Republicans are competent.
August 21st, 2006 at 8:57 amPretty good summary of the situation in Iraq
HOFFMANIA
August 21st, 2006 at 8:58 amMore troops on the ground? To win what? We don’t have a military to fight in Iraq. We have CITIZENS
August 21st, 2006 at 9:11 amMore troops on the ground? To win what? We don’t have a military to fight against in Iraq. We have CITIZENS to convince that our almighty presence is good for them after we killed over a hundred thousand of their cousins, sons, daughters, etc. McCain. What an idiot. McCain is going stupid for the warmongering vote.
No one defines what will be won, and if they try, they sound like idiots. McCain is the prototype idiot. He may as well put a clown suit on and honk his horn. I almost hope he gets nominated, so his stupidity can be exposed to more millions. Sheesh.
August 21st, 2006 at 9:17 ambones, you’re probably right……That would be Nov. 30th right.? LOL…..Sure woulden’t want to change the election out come, diebold will take care of that……Blessings All
August 21st, 2006 at 9:44 amHow can we miss you, Joe, if you won’t go away?…
John McCain’s favorite Democrat managed to get on television again this weekend … and … well … he’s still a Republican. (In fact, John Kerry says he’s a specific Republican: Dick Cheney…)…
August 21st, 2006 at 10:52 amwere you to have read up-thread, and understood, the allagory reference of sybil – perhaps your comment would be more enlightning.
regardless, if the shoe fits – you seem desire to wearing it. interesting choice you make.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:30 amnym@alias:
What about the other false allegations you made about other people,like Steve53 for example?
August 21st, 2006 at 12:13 pmNo nym,it’s you who is not following the thread,or threads. Get to know the style of the people who post here and then YOUR comments will be more enlightened.
Not that I agree with McCain BUT At least it is a strategy! And one that takes the actual situation into account.
Rummy and bunch’s plans are apparently to cross fingers and wish really really hard.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:23 pmthis is your assumption and perception.
others can formulate their own conclusions.
like i stated, if the shoe fits – you seem desire to wear it.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:49 pm[...] VIDEO Think Progress:McCain Calls For Escalation In Iraq, Suggests Putting More Troops On The Ground [...]
August 21st, 2006 at 12:49 pmLeave it to a sailor to recommend that more soldiers and marines be put in harms way. Where the hell does he think we will get additional troops – extend tours in Iraq perhaps?
And what will they do there, other than try to stay out of the line of fire, so that they can return home safely?
Let’s reiforrce by sending the neocons and their children to Bahgdad, Ramadi and Fallujah.
August 21st, 2006 at 1:05 pm[...] McCain Supports More Troops in Iraq, hires Bush Advisers for Campaign By JRyan86 On Meet the Press this weekend, Senator McCain proposed INCREASING the number of troops we send to Iraq, which sounds like proposing an escalation of American involvement in the Iraq Civil War. Did McCain somehow suddenly feel emboldened by pol numbers showing Lieberman ahead of Lamont in the general election, that he decided he would take the polar opposite position of Lamont? [...]
August 21st, 2006 at 1:49 pm“PERVERSIONS TO THE IMPERIALIST AMERICAN PIGSâ€
(a day in the life of a Baghdad family – Bashir, a young man, enters his family’s apartment)
Bashir: Greetings Father, Praise be to Allah.
August 21st, 2006 at 3:21 pmFather: Praise be to Allah.
Bashir: It’s hot in here. Did we have any electricity today?
Father: One hour, tops. May Allah rain perversions on the Imperialist American Pigs!
Bashir: That sucks. A thousand perversions to the Infidels.
Father: What did you do today?
Bashir: Praise be to Allah, I put out one roadside IED and helped prepare a suicider for a Mosque mission at evening prayers.
Father: Praise be to Allah, but did you stop by the Coalition Forces Outreach Center like your Mother asked you to?
Bashir: Yes, Papa I did.
Father: And did you tell them that death squads have harassing and threatening your Mother, sisters and our neighbors?
Bashir: Yes Papa I did. They said that they already knew and intended to step up patrols. They were very sympathetic and really quite civil.
Father: A thousand perversions to the Imperialist Occupiers.
Bashir: Praise be to Allah, a thousand perversions.
Send more troops in? Why don’t we just refine and run our SUVs on American and Iraqi blood and skip all that bureaucracy and politics?
August 22nd, 2006 at 1:22 pmWhen is the government gonna learn from history and figure out that controling people in another country doesn’t make your country any safer. Let the Iraqis do it THEIR way.
\ MC CAIN HAS NO PRIDE, OR HONOR, HE IS KISSING BUSH BOOTHS, AFTER BUSH INSULTED HIM, IN THE 2000 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, AND SOON BUSH WON, WELL ,THIS IS QUESTIONAL, HE DIDN’T WIN, GORE WON, AND THE SUPREME COURT GIVE THE PRESIDENCY TO BUSH, BY GOD, WHAT MISTAKE, LOOK THE WORLD TODAY, A DESASTER ,IF AL GORE WILL BE THE PRESIDENT TODAY.,NOTHING OF THIS NEVER WILL HAPPENING, NOT EVEN THE NEW YORK TOWERS, WILL BE STANDING TODAY,
August 31st, 2006 at 7:37 pmAND AGAIN ABOUT MC CAIN, A BIG FLIP FLAPPER, NOW IS CHANGING AGAIN,
CRITIZISING BUSH . IN DIRECTLY, AS A COMANDER IN CHIEF, NO LONG AGO HE WAS KISSING BUSH IN THE TV, AND BRAGING ABOUT BUSH HAVE GREAT JOB HE IS DOING, AND FEW WEEKS LATER HE START TO SEPARATE HIMSELF FROM BUSH, I WONDER WHY ?? BECAUSE OF THE 2008 PRESIDENTIAL , MC CAIN IS TWO FACES, WILL DO ANY THING TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT, BELIEVE ME, IS NO A CENT OF DIFFERENCE FROM MC CAIN TO BUSH, BOTH STING BAD.
[...] In a Washington Post editorial today, Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol and National Review editor Rich Lowry call for an escalation in Iraq. Appearing on Fox News to reinforce the argument, Lowry claimed that if Bush were to say, “we’re going to send two more divisions into the city [Baghdad] and lock it down and secure it… people would actually react favorably to that.” Watch it. var flvlowryescalation320240 = new SWFObject(’/wp-content/plugins/flvplayer.swf?file=http://images1.americanprogress.org/il80web20037/ThinkProgress/flv/2006/09/lowryescalation.320.240.flv&autoStart=false’, ‘em-flvlowryescalation320240′, ‘320′, ‘260′, ‘6′, ‘#ffffff’); flvlowryescalation320240.addParam(’quality’, ‘high’); flvlowryescalation320240.addParam(’wmode’, ‘transparent’); flvlowryescalation320240.write(’flvlowryescalation320240′); [...]
September 12th, 2006 at 1:38 pm