Buchanan: Mexico Conspiring To ‘Re-Annex’ Seven Southwest States
Buchanan: Mexico Conspiring To ‘Re-Annex’ Seven Southwest States
Appearing on Imus In the Morning to promote his new book, State of Emergency, Pat Buchanan asserted that the Mexican government has a “direct program” to reannex “the seven states of the American Southwest.” The first step is for Mexico “to push the poor, unemployed, and uneducated into the United States.” He criticized President Bush for not understanding “the nature and character of the invasion” from Mexico. Watch it:
Transcript:
BUCHANAN: The nature and character of the invasion is far different than anything that used to happen. 58% of the Mexican people in one survey indicated they believed that the American Southwest belonged actually to Mexico. It was stolen from them. It belongs to them and I think that the Mexican government has a direct program basically to push it’s poor, unemployed, and uneducated into the United States for a variety of purposes. And one of them, in my judgment — in which I believe I documented it in the book — is an attempt at the reconquista they call it, the reannexation of the seven days states of the American Southwest, link linguistically, ethnically and culturally to become as much a part of Mexico is they are a part of America. And I think that is well underway.
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I agree.
August 21st, 2006 at 9:44 amAllow me to clarify: I agree with Buchanan, which is unusual.
August 21st, 2006 at 9:46 amThe City of El Paso officially states that enforcing immigration laws would kill the city.
Wow.
August 21st, 2006 at 9:49 amIf you pick up a Dallas Morning News classified you’ll see, for example, 2 types of ads for an electrician:
-18$ to 25$ per hour, which means you want a white english-speaking person.
8$ to 14$ per hour, which means you’ll take a Mexican.
It’s the same across the board. All trades. Carpenters, plumbers, etc.
August 21st, 2006 at 9:49 amwatch this buchanan clip - another gem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jFZDbDyinw
August 21st, 2006 at 9:50 amPat Buchanan is apparently in charge of the latest diversion — as if that picture wasn’t diversion enough…
Great screen capture, TP!
August 21st, 2006 at 9:53 ambuchanan is a few fries short of a happy meal… for one thing, mexico isn’t ABOUT to risk losing the remittances mexican immigrants send to mexico annually…
the lion’s share of this staggering amount comes directly from the u.s… get a clue, pat…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
August 21st, 2006 at 9:58 amhe should just get it over with and change his name to turd ferguson
August 21st, 2006 at 9:59 amActually, the Neocons & Christofascists have invaded the integrity and long standing values of the United States. From immigration to National Security, they would have us believe that this great Nation we grew up in is lost.
August 21st, 2006 at 9:59 amFolks, it’ll only be lost if we listen to whack jobs like Buchanan & Dobson, et al. They are determined to reduce us to a fearful & reactionary stance about issues only they believe in.
Geraldo Rivera has more credibility than Pat Buchanan.
Why is it that the Buchanans & Falwells of the world can spew this sewage, call for loyalty to
the party from the pulpit & politicize the church without losing non-profit status? Because Bush will ignore rules & ethics if the message supports him!
Pat, go read you bible. None of the shit you espouse fits into any scripture…you guys make this shit up!
Yeah, he was at the Iowa State Fair, sucking on corn like a pig while spewing hate like a typical Rovain Neocon.
Pat, my God doesn’t recognize yours…what’ wrong with that picture?
I’m willing to hear any notion that involves giving away Texas.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:00 ami hope someone asked him if the annexation of those seven states was supposed to take place before or after the nationwide black/white race war
August 21st, 2006 at 10:01 amWow…58% of Mexican citizens correctly answered a question about their country’s history. If only we could get American citizens up to that standard…
Egads! From whata Pat is saying, you’d think that America is nothing but some sort of…melting pot or something.
Idiot.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:01 amAHHH! Brown people are going to take my apple pie!
August 21st, 2006 at 10:03 amBut Pat acts like this immigration thing is a surpise attack or something. Its been going on for what almost 30 years now? Fearmongering and rallying around the flag is not a real option when dealing with our immigration issues. I mean how is it productive at all?
August 21st, 2006 at 10:05 amDon’t worry, Bush’s plan to keep America poor, unemployed, and uneducated is working to combat this influx in the southern states.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:06 amCan’t we enter negotiations with Mexico and offer them Texas in return for leaving the other six states alone.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:06 amAll Mexicans in Texas consider Texas to be Mexico. Even as far North as Dallas you better believe it.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:08 amI don’t agree with Buchanan’s conclusions but the fact is that with the exception of what we ‘won” from the British during the American Revolution and the Louisiana Purchase and purchase of Alaska, we stole everything else from Native Americans and from Mexico. (One could further make the case that even these transactions were purchases of stolen goods.) Reconquista is a good word since the U.S. (like Spain) was a conquistador. We were imperialists then; we’re imperialists now.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:10 amHi. My name is John Doe and I’m running for _____________________________.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:11 amThe Total Information Awareness program was killed by a bipartisan congress in 2004 but George Bush is running the program anyway. We need to stop this program and implement and fund real security measures right here at home. And that includes border security. Thank you and vote for me, John Doe, candidate for ______________.
OK, so every country on the planet hates us, we’re going to war with Iean soon. We are at war in Iraq and Afghanistan and losing. And the mexicans, who aren’t that thrilled with us since the Mexicofascists are invading us rhetoric started are the next on the pre-emptive war hit parade for HitloBush. Great.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:15 amSome people just need to be on the front page every once in a while, and will say the requisite outlandish thing to get there.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:16 amNaturally the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
–Hermann Goering
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, THE TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE.” — Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945
“The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of an eye: the more light you pour on it, the more it contracts.”
Chief Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, U.S. Supreme Court
“When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.†-Sinclair Lewis
August 21st, 2006 at 10:19 amyep
America is finished
I’d give it maybe another 50 years max.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:20 amBuchanan is a schizoid. On the one hand, he has this other wacky notion about Mexico and on the other hand, I have to agree about his tirade about Israel’s assault on Lebanon as seen in the youtube link in #5 post.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:21 amI wonder if this is how the Romans felt c400 AD.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:21 amrobob,
August 21st, 2006 at 10:23 amI like your quotes. And I get along very well with Texas Mexicans. But this is an important issue that I don’t think has anything to do with fascism.
End NAFTA and reinstate regulations on free trade. This will help Mexico. If Mexico was a worthwhile place to stay for earning money, folks would stay there. Any debate over Mexican immigration that does not engage in a discussion about how US-Mexico trade policies affect the agricultura and working classes of Mexico is short sighted, innaccurate, and incmplete.
Otherwise, all of this silly babbling about Mexican wanting a re-anexing of the South West, walls, increased security, or any other silly idea is just a load of hot air. As someone once said “Its the economy stupid”
August 21st, 2006 at 10:25 amOh my God Pat you’ve cracked the conspiracy wide open, the Islamofascists are conspiring with the Mexicofascists and the Canadiofascists to bring us down. And of course we’re all aware of the complicity of the UN in all this with the Russofascists, Chinofascists, and Francofascists all working against us.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:26 amGreat, they can have Texas.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:26 amWow, he drinks the Same Kool Aid Michelle Malkin does.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:26 amWhere’s Davy Crockett when you need him??
August 21st, 2006 at 10:27 amIt is the fault of the greed of the business community to maximize their bottom lines mindlessly by exploiting illegal workers.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:29 amWhat Buchanan missed is that Canada has entered a secret agreement with Mexico that if a US state does vote to secede and rejoin Mexico and if the US sends in the Alamo Brigade Canada will attack North Dakota and Montana. (don’t laugh we have 6 working tanks and are saving up to buy some ammo for them!!!)
August 21st, 2006 at 10:29 amGreat video. I think his points are quite reasonable form the perspecitve which he makes so well grounded, even if I disagree in some points.
Thank you for sharing this story with me !
August 21st, 2006 at 10:30 amWell, Im quite liberal but I believe Pat is totally right. There may never be an official annexation but a defacto one is happening right now.
You can look at what they did in morrocco with the “great march” into the western sahara to skew the votes away from the locals, the polisario. Same thing with Tibet in China. They give tax and other financial incentives for chinese to move there in the hopes that even a local referendum would vote for chinese control. Flooding a region with your people by giving them incentives to move there as a way to ensure political control is nothing new.
Its easier for people who live in the north to give in to knee-jerk egalitarian instincts and fear of the racial politics involved *but* many people in border states know better. These arent the irish or the italians and they arent going to come in a short wave. They are directly on our border and they will politically own this country within a generation or two. This is an immigration wave the likes of which the continent hasnt seen since the indians came 10k years ago or the europeans 500 years ago.
They know it too.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:31 amParkland hospital in Dallas currently sends huge bills to the Mexican consulate for all the free loading Mexicans that pass through their hospital.
Don’t deny this problem just because you people lean more toward communism than a lawful, just society.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:33 amI always find it amazing how these people think giving Israel back the to the peoples it was “stolen” from, 2000 years prior, is perfectly justifiable. But Mexicans wanting land back that was “stolen” from them, 200 prior, is some how unthinkable.
I guess the bible doesnt mention Mexicans much.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:33 amThanx Pat for news on this new invasion (first I’ve heard of it). I liked your rant against the Zionist War Crimes in Lebanon also. While I don’t agree with everything you say, I find that you make more sense than most of the other pundits.( And a lot more sense than Bush, but that’s easy)
August 21st, 2006 at 10:40 amCheck this out. A real harbinger of what’s coming.
Parlier, a small California central valley town was taken over by Mexicans on City Council. Mexicans are about 98% of Parlier.
They bankrupted the town treasury completely. Fresno County had to assume control of the town to keep city services running. It took years to keep the town from becoming a pot-holed, corrupt police village like Enssenada or Tiajuana.
This actually happened. Fresno County and Parlier hesitiate to answer questions on it, but a close friend was a consultant to the rescue and showed me all the facts.
Parlier today, Los Angeles tomorrow. All they need is a majority on City Council.
Buenos Dias, Amigos.
Guiellermo
August 21st, 2006 at 10:44 amWouldn’t it be great if the immigration laws were actually enforced in every municipality in the country? Those employers who got caught hiring undocumented workers were penalized so harshly they went out of business? Your big McBurger cost 11.00? The 300,000 home you were looking at buying cost 450,000. There is a cost to everything, are you willing to pay it?
August 21st, 2006 at 10:46 amCorrect.
Are you f**ing kidding me? Proofs, man, please.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:49 amFour out of the fifteen city council members in LA are hispanic.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:49 amYes, it’s true, the Canadians are conspiring to annex Wyoming and Washington as well, they are currently rearming with spitballs, slingshots and snowballs.
California will be annexed by the Chinese conspirators and Florida by those poor cubans who are currently arming their flotilla with oars and fishing poles..
New York will be annexed by those conspiring europoeans coming over here to get away from those conspiring French islamofascists, and those damn pyramids with 666 slates of glass.
Oh yeh, the Indians on American reservations are conspiring to annex Oklahoma and New Mexico, the whole purpose of Casinos on reservations is a giant conspiracy you see…
Meanwhile those damn Aliens, The Reptilians have dug secret bases under the earth and are conspiring to rule earth, why would Aliens want anything to do with these intelligent people is beyond us.
The little green aliens are conspiring to take over earths atmosphere and have been using ELF signals to corrupt government officials into taking money from the Oil conglomerates to increase the CO2 in the Atmosphere..
As well, the fundamentalists, and zionist international bankers are conspiring with the reptilians\aliens, as well as satan, too put the anti-christ into power in the white house fomenting the end time scenario.
And finally, for all his conspiring, Mankind, only those reborn warmongers, pundits and televangelists, like limbaugh, will then float up thru the aether, with all their material goods, and be greeted at the pearly gates for taking such great care of earth and fomenting wars thru hate speech.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:51 amOh most potent and majestic of nations that trembles at the thought of the invasion by an unarmed army of uneducated and poor brown-skinned invaders! (Can it be called an invasion if they came to answer a help-wanted ad? Excuse me senor, but I came for the electrician’s job; oh and to destroy your country, when can I start?)
And we wonder why hispanics want ownership of these 7 states; it’s to rescue them from Buchanan and his ilk.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:51 amAll Mexicans in Texas consider Texas to be Mexico. Even as far North as Dallas you better believe it.
Comment by The DLC are Frauds — August 21, 2006 @ 10:08 am
The same with mohicans, navajos, sioux, apaches, cherokees, etc think about their country.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:53 amSi señor, Mexico reclama y recuperara el territorio nacional que le fue arreabatado.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:53 amOK, yes, lots of Mexican immigrants are entering the U.S. This is not new. They will continue to enter as long as we are a dynamic growing economy. All dynamic growing economies attract in-migrants. Should California have closed its borders in the 1940s and 1950s?
August 21st, 2006 at 10:58 amThe world changes. The real question is how we adapt and deal with the changes. Pat does not seem to have much to offer here other than suggesting we should all be very worried. A more productive approach would be to accept the inevitable, be thankful our economy is not in a depression (yet), and learn to live with the diversity and dynamism of an attractive society. Americans had better learn some Spanish. They might actually enjoy it.
It is a pathetically slow day when Pat Buchanon and his paranoid conspiracy theories become a topic of conversation.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:58 amLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! Buchanan has really gone out on a limb this time. He’s NUTZ!
Why on earth would Mexico want to “re-annex” any of its former territory that is now part of the US? Hell, they have a hard enough time taking care of the people they have now!
I have serious questions about anyone who thinks that Mexico would do such a thing. It’s insane!
August 21st, 2006 at 11:04 amPat LeftIndependent blog , Hank, Vicente Lopez, reasew, Juan C - now it’s clear the Mexicofascists have placed subversive agents within our own country. Well GW ‘ill show ya’ll, the bombing of Tiajauna begins at happy hour.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:04 amSo the millions of Mexicans who have had to leave Mexico to find work because a self-serving elite impoverishes the country will voluntarily vote to join Mexico again so they can return to the same exploitation they fled. What does Buchanan think they are -
August 21st, 2006 at 11:05 amRepublicans?
Don’t deny this problem just because you people lean more toward communism than a lawful, just society.
Comment by The DLC are Frauds — August 21, 2006 @ 10:33 am
First, I think the vast majority of people in here are not communists…far from it.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:09 amSecond, why is a communism state different from a lawful, just society. An example: US is a capitalist state, right? Is US a lawful, just society? Keep trying.
I thought you guys stopped us at the Alamo. Guess not!
August 21st, 2006 at 11:09 amWell, the Mexicans are right. We did steal the land. We provoked them into war specifically for that purpose. Mexico invited settlers into Texas and then the settlers fought for ‘indepencence’ from Mexico. Please, they’re just taking back what was theirs to begin with. Viva la annexacion!!
August 21st, 2006 at 11:12 amI have serious questions about anyone who thinks that Mexico would do such a thing. It’s insane!
Comment by Jonathon — August 21, 2006 @ 11:04 am
Well, probably because here in Mexico we think that all issues should be solved with the use of force…just that. And, because mexican army has like 5 or 6 F-5. You know, Mexico is a real threat. Yeah.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:13 amWe would not have a “Pat Bucannan” problem if we had kept those poor and hungry Irish out of the United States.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:20 amLooks like Pat Buchanan found the Zimmerman Note.
Terrible news! I’ve just found out something alarming: 25% of Americans are Catholic! Yes, Catholic! They made up only 1% of the U.S. population in 1790, but our country has been swamped! We can’t have the Protestant country which the Founding Fathers imagined with a quarter of our population being Pope-obeying semi-polythiestic heathens!
We never should have let anybody in- our country gets less American with every immigrant! Call me an alarmist, but don’t come crying to me when you’re being dragged from your home in the middle of the night and having communion wafers stuffed into you. It’s too late to save our culture or preserve the Republic of 1789. Better brush up on your Latin, everybody. Help! Opus Dei is pounding on the door! The country is doomed. The Pope himself is surely on his way right now.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:22 amThis nitwit may be revealing a hairbrain scheme of Mexico.
After all Mexico would be repeating the exact way the US stole those states from Mexico.
The US flooded the Mexican territories with immigrants at Mexico’s invitation to settle the areas.
After the the US had a large enough population they simply ‘took over’ the Mexican states.
What irony…..like it could happen….. even with the help of Venezuela.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:22 amThis ius just more republofascist divide and conquer. they have a midterm election coming up and if they can get the whites fighting the Jews fighting the blacks fighting the Latinos then their core 30% cryptofascists can vote in block, while we all infight. Look at what they are trying in CT, split the vote and win - that’s the point of this crap.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:22 amI’m a leftie — Green Party member, in fact — but there is much to what Pat has to say.
The Mexican power elite have a decaying, oligarchic society and they use the US as an escape valve for their poor and disenfranchised. The last thing the Mexican government and the Mexican power elite want is millions of disaffected, unemployed young people with ambition staying in Mexico, stirring up trouble.
Clear them out so the Mexican elites can continue their sclerotic government/economic system.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:23 amI doubt Tijuana (or any other tourist hot spot) is a target; it would wipe out a large portion of the US military and political elite that would be needed to defend the US from such an ‘invasion’.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:24 amWhat’s the difference of being owned by Mexico or Israel?
August 21st, 2006 at 11:25 amThe last thing the Mexican government and the Mexican power elite want is millions of disaffected, unemployed young people with ambition staying in Mexico, stirring up trouble.
Comment by David Raether — August 21, 2006 @ 11:23 am
I agree. And just for you to know, this mexican ruling class is supported by the US, IMF, WorldBank, WTO, etc. Nobody wants a thinking society.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:26 amokay- this is true. frankly, i do not care that much. but if you live in LA you know this PB is actually on to something.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:26 amwhat he doesn’t say is that it will fail and that the mexican government is too corrupt to take over the southwest and that we in the USA need these people or our economy WILL fail.
merge is a better word than takeover.
Buchanan is a racist xenophobic buffoon. The idea that Mexico would attempt to annex any part of the U.S. is sheer fantasy, (though they might be right to make the claim). Buchanan only seeks to foment his racist agenda.
That Buchanan even gets air time reflects that he is of value to the corporate oligarchy in his ability to divide workers and pit us against each other thus undermining our ability to unite for better conditions.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:28 am[…] So says Pat Buchanan, wingnut of the old school. […]
August 21st, 2006 at 11:31 amThe Mexican power elite have a decaying, oligarchic society
USA in, what, 50 years?…that many?…
August 21st, 2006 at 11:40 amRun fer the hills, its the Mexercans!
-John Q. Cracker
August 21st, 2006 at 11:41 amso what? can’t mexico have a ‘manifest destiny’?
August 21st, 2006 at 11:44 amShhhh! Don’t you realize that it’s the exact opposite of what Pat thinks? We’re taking over them. Whose culture and economy will actually survive? Whose political dirty tricks will prove more potent? Si se puede!
August 21st, 2006 at 11:55 amTerry: no! The phrase ‘manifest destiny’ is copyrighted by Amurika!
August 21st, 2006 at 11:55 amChina calling;
August 21st, 2006 at 11:56 amWe are in LA and Vancouver BC as I speak. We will be taking over the west coast. If Mexico takes over we will be having a war with them in 50 years instead of with the US.
Those of you thst are so ready to give Texas away just don’t know what you are talking about. Need a cheap shot at Bush, leave Texas the hell out of it. The guy is a Yale man from MAINE.
As for Mexicans, I say bring ‘em on. As people go, they’re as decent as any, certainly any of us. Certainly as decent as my grandparents who came to this country with waves of “impoverished” immigrants from Europe at the turn of the last century. They seem to be working their asses off just like grandparents did.
Mexican culture is ENRICHING the culture of Texas and the United States. “Tex-Mex” isn’t just a MENU, it’s the culture here. America without the contributions of Mexican immigrants would be like American with out the cultural contributions of African Americans; that is, much the lesser. They can’t “take back” the Southwest for Mexico, of course that is just preposterous. They will have no desire to, when they can proudly say they too are AMERICANS.
Hank (#47), thanks for the level headed POV.
After all of that, let me just say that I’m kind of wishing Native Americans would “take back” the Disctrict of Columbia. Maybe we could trade it to them in exchange for worthless beads and baubles.
Oh, and what was that annoying noise that was bugging me a minute ago…oh yeah…Pat Buchannan’s mouth. This man wrote alot of the crap that came out of NIXON’s mouth. Hhmph.
August 21st, 2006 at 11:59 am#70 - Baja OC,
August 21st, 2006 at 12:00 pmWhat makes you believe that Pat thinks?
Is it just me or did comment 9 confuse Pat Buchannan with Pat Robertson?
August 21st, 2006 at 12:04 pmHere in Kollyfornya we see and hear a lot about La Reconquista. Tell Buchanan, however, that it’s his boys, The Republicans, who want the enormous pool of cheap, exploitable labor which they are using as a stalking horse to lower the standard of living for the enire middle class of this country. Meanwhile, the Left, which would not normally miss a chance to attack this kind of human and economic exploitation, remains silent for fear of being called yahoos and nativists.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:04 pm#65
An accurate assessment,imo.
David Duke- lite is mouthing off–as instructed.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:07 pmIs there any reason why those above (except for those who support annexation) think that Mexico wouldn’t do the same thing that Texans did when Texas was still Mexico territory? Perhaps they’re making false assumptions about Mexico’s leaders.
40 says “Your big McBurger cost 11.00?”
Actually, even biased studies haven’t shown even large gains from illegal labor. And, labor costs only account for a small percentage of most things; with lettuce it’s just 10% of the cost. And, if you’re really concerned about food prices, then let stoop vegetable production (strawberries) move offshore.
I have a thought experiment concerning one of Buchanan’s points at the following URL (remove the underscores since I’ve been banned):
lo___newacko.com/blog/archives/005451.html
If you oppose annexation, but you’re unsure about whether Buchanan is right, read the link and think about it.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:08 pmAs long as people come here legally, I am 100% for it. If they come illegally, I am 100% against it.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:09 pmAnd why is it a bad thing if a majority in any of those states becomes of Mexican descent? Way back in the 1820’s & 1830’s that region was a part of Mexico. The US government encouraged it’s citizens to move to Texas and set up shop. They also pretty much encouraged those same people to stay loyal to the US rather than be loyal to the new country they emigrated to, because that’s what they did they emigrated to a new country (Mexico) and rebelled. Is that what people are afraid of happening in the US? Or are they afraid that Brown people might govern differently than the good people they have governing them now?
August 21st, 2006 at 12:09 pmI remember when Buchanan used to be the punchline of Nazi jokes. In recent years, however, he seems so… reasonable in comparison to the neocons.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:15 pmNo you scumbag, there is no conspiracy. America isn’t buying your wacko theories. Stay out of the USA’s politics bozo.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:19 pmMore diversions by conjuring up fear.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:29 pmFour out of the fifteen city council members in LA are hispanic.
just think about what the city council looked like in the 1800’s when california had been colonized by spain and then became part of mexico. the nerve of those people to stick around for a dozen decades or so!
August 21st, 2006 at 12:30 pmaccording to the INS web site for ‘this month in immigration history’, february, 1848, the us immigrants into the mexican province of tejas:
1. refused to covert to catholicism as they required to by law
2. refused to learn spanish
3. imported slavery into tejas against mexican law
4. were partly responsible for destabilizing mexico leading to santa anna’s dictatorship
hmm…
August 21st, 2006 at 12:33 pmManifest destiny - translated into German: ‘lebensraum’.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:38 pmUtter bollox.
As an immigrant to this country, I’ve been hearing the same old “stealing our jobs,” “poluting our culture,” “endangering ‘the American Way of Life’” nonsense consistently for the last 15 years.
Immigration IS the American Way of Life. Did this country just come into existance by the grace of God? Maybe Pat thinks so. But this is just another means of blindsiding us into excusing the Right’s blatant xenophobia and fear of “the other.”
Invasion, my ass.
August 21st, 2006 at 12:59 pmAs a liberal Democrat from the Northeast who loves Pat Buchanan for reasons even I do not understand, I hope he’s right! I wouldn’t lose a wink of sleep if Mexico took Texas and the rest… Adios!
August 21st, 2006 at 1:05 pmWell, I’d be willing to fight to retain the remainder of the Southwest… but if Mexico re-annexed Texas, Democrats would need only 5 seats to take over the US House, instead of 15, so… hmmmm….
August 21st, 2006 at 1:20 pmI think that the Mexican government has a direct program basically to push it’s poor, unemployed, and uneducated into the United States
In typical fearmonger fashion, not a shred of evidence is presented to support such a wild, preposterous accusation. A simple “I think that…” is more than enough to start the rumor.
[…] one of them, in my judgment — in which I believe I documented it in the book — is an attempt at the reconquista they call it […]
The first time I read about the “reconquista” was in some right-wing magazine. I think that, even if it had a grain of truth, it is largely a fabricated outrage to whip up the base into action: If it’s not the Muslim “threat”, then it’s the Hispanic “threat” that will be used to mobilise the minions.
Such are the policies of bigotry, fear and prejudice.
August 21st, 2006 at 1:23 pmQuick! We need to invade Mexico: we can work them over there, rebuilding the things we blew up, so we don’t have to work them over here, and take jobs away from Americans. And since they have oil, the reconstruction will pay for itself. Geez, I’m surprised no one thought of it sooner . . .
Pat B. says so - that’s good enough for me (he’s at least as credible as the “intel” we used to invade Iraq).
August 21st, 2006 at 1:24 pmThe notion that Texas was ’stolen’ from Mexico is unsupported by history, seceded from Mexico in 1836. Texas agreed to become part of the U.S. and the Mexican congress approved a resolution on 4 June 1845 authorizing the president “with the lawful rights to use all resources to withstand to the last resort such annexation.” (i.e. war)
California is more of a toss up but Mexico did received millions of dollars for it the other ’stolen’ states (Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo). But if getting money for land is stealing then I guess we stole Louisiana from the French and Alaska from the Russians.
August 21st, 2006 at 1:32 pmI dont know if it is official Mexican policy, but I have heard this from mexicans and I have been told by other people that they to have heard this from mexican people they know. So it is definately some kind of fantasy of at least some mexicans.
August 21st, 2006 at 1:32 pmViva Amerixo!
August 21st, 2006 at 1:36 pm#92 - that treaty was a bit like being mugged and being left a twenty to pay for the taxi to the hospital by the mugger.
August 21st, 2006 at 1:40 pm[…] Think Progress Appearing on Imus In the Morning to promote his new book, State of Emergency, Pat Buchanan asserted that the Mexican government has a “direct program” to reannex “the seven states of the American Southwest.” The first step is for Mexico “to push the poor, unemployed, and uneducated into the United States.” He criticized President Bush for not understanding “the nature and character of the invasion” from Mexico. Watch it Transcript: BUCHANAN: The nature and character of the invasion is far different than anything that used to happen. 58% of the Mexican people in one survey indicated they believed that the American Southwest belonged actually to Mexico. It was stolen from them. It belongs to them and I think that the Mexican government has a direct program basically to push it’s poor, unemployed, and uneducated into the United States for a variety of purposes. And one of them, in my judgment — in which I believe I documented it in the book — is an attempt at the reconquista they call it, the reannexation of the seven days states of the American Southwest, link linguistically, ethnically and culturally to become as much a part of Mexico is they are a part of America. And I think that is well underway. My personal position stands: Enforce the laws against HIRING illegal aliens and the flow will reverse. No need for a Great Wall. Remove the incentive. This will force Mexico to deal with their own poverty/discontent. And strengthen the American middle class. (I know, the neo-cons are scared shitless about a strong middle class. It would be their undoing.) __________________ ~~ Helpful Linx * Huff Post * WRH * RAW STORY ~~ […]
August 21st, 2006 at 1:41 pmI find it easy to understand where Pat is coming from. How else does a “never has been” geta little attention. He’s a long way fron Point/Counterpoint. Pat, you ignorant slut!!
August 21st, 2006 at 1:44 pmNow why would they want to do that when they can just keep their poorest people leaving their country to come to the USA? Once here they start sending lot’sa money back to Mexico.
August 21st, 2006 at 2:07 pmI have been in line at the Post Office when Mexicans come in to buy postal money orders. You can not believe the $100 bills they count out. BILLIONS are going south of the border while the poorest of the poor keep coming north. It’s a win-win for Mexico.
We really need to attach a fee for all money orders. We could actually get some money back for all the services required to serve such a large illegal population which are streaming up from Mexico.
BUT the real answer is to stop employing illegals! Bush will never allow his base to pay for legal labor when illegals work for cheap.
He’s right… by the time anyone wakes up to this, it will be too late - it may already be too late.
As far as the money going back, it’s being used to prepare the next wave - that’s not very hard to figure out.
August 21st, 2006 at 2:27 pm“Buchanan: Mexico Conspiring To ‘Re-Annex’ Seven Southwest States” - Judd
******I feel like we’re having a “Hallmark moment”!! Progs and Conserves agreeing on SOMETHING! Here in San Diego, we have a positive relationship with LEGAL immigrants. The problem: we are OVERRUN by illegals. Most are hard-working: the rest CLOG our schools, hospitals and jails. But if want a real eye-opener, visit http://www.aztlan.net . (Don’t despair progs who advocate for open borders, the Mexicans who advocate returning the Southwest to Mexico - identifyy with the benighted Palestinians and share a hared of Israel.)
Must be running….
August 21st, 2006 at 2:31 pmI was really starting to take umbrage about everyone trying to give away my state but when I studied Christopher Walker’s math above I have to agree that maybe it’s time Texans need to take one for the good of the country. After all we thought it was so clever to promote that failure out of the governor’s mansion; well it seemed like a good idea at the time. I will start again on my Spanish lessons.
August 21st, 2006 at 2:31 pmI am Mexican and I am sure that Mexico’s Government cant be able to plan a scheme such as this. If someday the states are reannexed to Mexico, I can assure that they are because of some other reason, and not because someone in Mexico planned it.
August 21st, 2006 at 2:37 pmDoes anyone remeber how the USA obtained those states? I don’t remember there being a sale of that land. When the USA bought large tracts of land it was from Russia and France not from from any of the local long term occupants. I am sure that France and Russia stole that land fair and square.
August 21st, 2006 at 2:40 pmIf someday the states are reannexed to Mexico, I can assure that they are because of some other reason and not because someone in Mexico planned it.
so that’s how the bush administration will pay off the national debt.
August 21st, 2006 at 2:56 pmDear Kal - Google Treaty of Guadalupe hidalgo and the Gadsen Purchase. You’re welcome….
August 21st, 2006 at 2:57 pmWow keep trying Pat
August 21st, 2006 at 3:00 pmWhat’s the second step… fullscale military invasion.. or does Mexico simply declare, “We hereby annex the South Western United States”!
August 21st, 2006 at 3:00 pmPlease, for the love of God, stop berating Texas and Texans! There are PLENTY of Democrats, liberals and progressives here who are working like hell to break the chokehold that the GOP has had on our state since GWB cheated his way into the governership.
August 21st, 2006 at 3:10 pmWe’re getting closer all of the time and we could use support from our blue state “friends”.
And, yes, Pat Buchanan is a raving idiot!
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August 21st, 2006 at 3:11 pmWhere is the outrage over remittances to India and China? Those two countries combined receive almost twice in remittances than what Mexico receives.
The purchase of Mexican territory after the Mexican American war was opposed by many in the US. It was seen as taking war spoils from a defeated nation. President Polk initiated the war with Mexico as a part of his Manifest Destiny to extend the borders of the US from coast to coast.
August 21st, 2006 at 3:13 pmWe outsource a good deal of our low skill labor to other countries.
At the same time a large pool of low skilled labor is allowed to enter the country.
Since there are now less low skill jobs available…and a higher demand for the low skill jobs that are available…what do you think will be the economic result when it comes to wages?
And what kind of jobs will they be?
despite the stereotype, everyone over the border is not going to be picking fruit and selling produce on the side of the highway and most won’t become CEO’s of their own companies (at least the first generation across), so where are the jobs coming from?
Answer
Plumbers, carpenters, construction, House cleaning and other domestic services mostly…all good paying jobs 20 years ago.
And due to the labor influx, predicably these jobs have had real wage decreases for the last 20 years despite the rise of inflation. Paying less for the same work. Sounds like the perfect recipe for social stability.
Maybe this is why Casaer Chavez was for controlled legal immigration.
August 21st, 2006 at 3:19 pm98 says: “We really need to attach a fee for all money orders.”
Tom Tancredo proposed that idea. FirstDataa - which owns WsternUnion - responded by monetarily supporting his Democratic opponent.
Lesson: the problem is with both the GOP and the Dems. That partially explains why there’s such a stalemate on this issue, as partisanship takes precedence over the well-being of the country.
If you believe 102’s comment, you might want to read up on those who run Mexico: http://tinyurl.com/mszmp
August 21st, 2006 at 3:21 pmFor once I agree with Pat Buchanan-looks like a whole lot of others who read this site do as well. Perhaps it’s not so rediculous? Or maybe we are all wolves in sheeps clothing, not really liberals at all.
August 21st, 2006 at 3:29 pm#110 - “Where is the outrage over remittances to India and China? Those two countries combined receive almost twice in remittances than what Mexico receives.”
–Comment by deegeeeee
******Dear DG - Thank you for sharing your irrelevant “comment”. When the US has 20-30 million ILLEGAL Chinese and Indians running around - get back with us. I haven’t noticed our hospitals and schools burgeoning with illegals from India and China. Just this morning I had a client to visit at the SD Metro Jail - funny thing, the place was NOT overflowing with Chinese and Indians. Whooooo KNEW?
YOUR knowledge and your smokescreen are hazy….
August 21st, 2006 at 3:43 pmOr maybe we are all wolves in sheeps clothing, not really liberals at all.
Comment by Ed
Truth is truth… the truth is we like the USA just as it is now .. landwise. The truth is also shitty because the truth is we did illegal things to Mexico and then when Mexico reacted we waged war with them and then “paid” them for taking what we wanted… even though they didnt want the money, nor the war, nor the illegals in their country that started the trouble in the first place and that later became the citizens of Texas.
The truth is also shitty because if we held Americas acts against Mexico to the same moral level we are holding Americas actions against Iraq then we would have to demand that America give back the occupied Mexican land… yet we also consider that land as absolutely part of that shaped landmass that we learned as children to be “America”… much easier to give up occupied land when it is far away than when it is attached to you and has been since before any of us were born.
August 21st, 2006 at 3:43 pmAs a native-born, non-Hispanic Texan, I have to say that I understand completely the sentiment of those who think the US would be better of if it just gave Texas back to the Mexicans - and if the terms of the deal included putting Kay Bailey Hutchinson, John Cornyn, and the Bush twins to work scrubbing toilets for less than minimum wage, that would be all the better.
On a more serious note, MessiahComplexio, author of post number 111, nails it as far as the economic reality is concerned.
August 21st, 2006 at 3:59 pmRemember the Alamo!
August 21st, 2006 at 4:04 pmMy dear Gerald - Of course you would like to equate the treatment of Mexicans in 1835 with the treatment of Iraq today- - I can SEE the sense of your trying to equate the two (or at least your attempt to draw sloppy parallels) when I consider your penchant for moral relativism…..
Soooo, good to hear your “thought-provoking” input….
August 21st, 2006 at 4:09 pmI vote for giving them Texas and calling it good.
August 21st, 2006 at 4:10 pmMighty aphrodite, first of all you need to get out more. Secondly, The issue is a wire transfer tax that should be imposed on undocumented Mexicans. If the issue is remittances to other countries then impose the tax on all remittances unless you can devise a way to check a person’s tax records to see if they paid taxes on the money that they are wiring overseas. Absent that, it’s a useless argument.
August 21st, 2006 at 4:26 pmComment by deegee
Is the money really the issue?
I think the idea goes like so… as many mexicans as possible moves into the lower states… non-spansh speaking Americans move out as they feel “alien” in their own neighborhood. Rinse … repeat … I think the only question is … Does the Mexican government have this as an official plan or is it just a “folk tale” that is turning into reality?
August 21st, 2006 at 4:33 pmThe Right wants the cheap labor. The Left doesn’t want to be racist. The GOP’s backers want the cheap labor. the Dems want the Hispanic vote. So the tide continues - all the political forces in the US are aligned against doing anything to stop it. The Mexican government’s first priorties on immigration are: political stability and remmitances - emigration to the US acts as a safety valve to prevent a build-up in pressure for domestic reform, and remittances from the US help prop up the Mexican economy. I’m not sure though that Mexican government is sufficiently far-sighted or capable to engineer a ‘reconquista’, after all most of these guys are just gangsters out for themselves.
Also, if the people coming across the border were white (e.g. hot-lookin blondes), would we be having the same discussion about immigration?
August 21st, 2006 at 5:01 pmbLIar - http://www.aztlan.net reminds me of people like YOU….domestic enemies…..
August 21st, 2006 at 5:04 pmAlso, if the people coming across the border were white,(hot looking blondes) would we be having the same discussion about immigration.
You mean like when the Irish and Italian and German immigrants were excepted with open arms back in the day?
You had me until the “also”
August 21st, 2006 at 5:05 pmaccepted
August 21st, 2006 at 5:05 pmThose seven states are running out of water. Let the Mexicans have them.
August 21st, 2006 at 5:19 pmFirst–actually second– there was Mr. Bush’s revelation: our President informed the insensient world this very day of something we never knew: that Al Qaeda is reponsible for some of Iraq’s more spectacular bombings.
How did they ever sneak in there like that, without somebody other than our President ever realizing?
And now Pat Buchanan reveals on the very same day a bombshell about a sinister pllot hatched by the Mexican government to steal back seven of the United States.
Wow, two explosive stories in the same day! Wouldn’t it be kinda disrespectful for any of us from the lowly mass of the middle-class to challenge the combined intelligence. of such illustrious authorities?
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August 21st, 2006 at 5:27 pmThe are two way to conquer an adjacent country, if you can get away with it. One way is to mass an equipped army on the border, and cross with guns blazing.
The other way is to slowly and steadily infiltrate across the border with millions of “sleepers” installed in every population center until you have a critical mass required for the conquest established in the adjacent nation. Then you give them the guns from pre-placed caches and conduct massive sabotage of critical infrastructure, attacks on armorys and tactical control points in a sudden blitzkrieg, and its done in a few days.
Now which strategy would you bet is being applied by Fox and his likely successor?
August 21st, 2006 at 5:29 pmYeah. We must not let those dirty Hispanics take over the Southern states.
The US might get overflooded with distressingly ugly looking people like Shakira, Salma Hayek, or (the horror!) Eva Longoria. Yuck.
August 21st, 2006 at 5:43 pmThank God for the Mexicans, maybe Pat will leave the Jews alone for awhile!
August 21st, 2006 at 5:47 pmWake-up. Belitteling Buchanan’s message does not change the fact that many hear truth in what he says. This is the next hot button issue, and not only in the South West.
August 21st, 2006 at 5:53 pmBeyond the paranoia… Read up on the history of Texas to see why some fear Mexican retaliation.
August 21st, 2006 at 5:55 pmWhen all you got in your gun is the “red necks don’t want dirty hispanics in their neighborhood” argument your being just as simple-minded as the racists you take to task.
History shows us that ALL immigrants to the country get taken to the mat. It is because they are coming to compete for a pie that is preceived as only so large.
Racism can be a result of this anziety, but it is not the cause.
Why not get to the Nut of the issue rather than simplify. Unless your just looking to make some noise.
August 21st, 2006 at 5:59 pmShit, I guess I stopped getting the damm memos about the “reconquista” when i accepeted my US citizenship.
August 21st, 2006 at 6:07 pmPlease Pat, keep keeping me informed about my government’s…ur… I mean former government’s plans to reannex the southwest because without you I wouldn’t know my place in the world.
Según un gringo el gobierno de México CONSPIRA para re-anexar 7 estados del sur de EUA ! ! !…
Un gringo imbécil publicó que nuestro gobierno esta tratando hacerse de 7 estados del sur de EUA…Cómo??? según él, expandiendo la pobreza, ignorancia y desempleo que hay en el paÃs a esos estados!!!… Será esto el inicio del gobierno norteam…
August 21st, 2006 at 6:22 pmI live 14 miles north of the border in Santa Cruz County, Arizona. 80% of my wonderful neighbors are ambitious, assimilating, prospering Mexican-Americans.
Come visit, will you, Pat?
August 21st, 2006 at 6:23 pmanyone here been at any east coast vacation spot lately? You can’t go into ANY store or resturant without finding someone from the european eastern block working there. WHY? because we DONT have the people avaiable or necessary to man those positions. Now consider..the baby boomers, people born between 1946 and 1964 have already started to retire. that’s millions and millions of them. they won’t STOP retiring until 2029. now think about the number of children the boomers had. there’s NOT ENOUGH people to take care of them available right now. the middle of that time frame isn’t even here yet and we have to go to the ukraine for workers. where are the people going to come from in another 10 years?? the peoople in this country will be on their KNEES BEGGING mexico, and any other country they can get to listen, to send ANYONE here to help! without that help this country will face certain financial doom.
August 21st, 2006 at 6:28 pmWell, America did steal it off of Mexico in the first place, and even Pat says they want to reannex, so he admits it was their’s….so why shouldn’t Mexico take it back. Aren’t Americans all about “supporting indigenous peoples in their struggle against their oppressors”. The world would be a much better place if more of you just read your own history.
The next thing you know Canadians will be asking for the Alaskan Panhandle back. (And don’t try invading us in Canada again, ’cause we kicked your ass in 1812 and we can do it again if need be.)
Its great to watch an empire crumble.
August 21st, 2006 at 6:28 pmDeart Trash JOHN - When you hand back the land Canada stole from the First Tribes, get back with us. Smoke signals will do…
Speaking of empire crumbling….you Canucks do a worse job than us letting in every mal-content Muslim terror-wack - you sound so disgustingly…..weak and French….and an awful lot like my whiny sister-in-law from Montreal……
August 21st, 2006 at 6:48 pmJust to be clear, he means Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah and Colorado? Good thing we have the National Guard…uh oh.. Um, Arnie?? Sen. McCain??
Where’s the transcript of Don’s response? “You moron, I live in Ribera, NEW MEXICO! Little Wyatt’s not old enough to fight, and those cancer kids won’t put much of a resistance. Maybe Deirdre can hold ‘em off with her organic cleaning products!”
August 21st, 2006 at 6:55 pmI think Pat forgot to take his meds today.
August 21st, 2006 at 7:24 pmI never never never agree with Pat Buchanan but I do today!
I don’t know if it’s official Mexican government policy but the reconquista of Arizona is goig to happen just the way things are going now with no changes.
Resident of Phoenix
August 21st, 2006 at 7:37 pmRemember the alamo?
August 21st, 2006 at 7:39 pmI find Buchannan’s comments ludicrous but not because they lack merit at heir face alue. No, indeed, it is ludicous that he should waste his time making them. In case anyone needs a refresher course, the purpose of NAFTA was to more or less erase economic borders between Mexico, US, and Canada. I seriously doubt that the political genius’ behind NAFTA have any interest in stopping at economics but that may sound paranoid and I don’t consider myself paranoid. Therefore lets just stick to economics. At some point, NAFTA will make the border between the US and Mexico rather pointless. At present, the border economy between thetwo nations is extensively intergrated; give it a generation and the social and economic character of the border region will largely homogenous and we can only hopethat some of the economic benefits will end up to the south. I needn’t remind folks who initiated NAFTA: It was not Mexico or Canada but a US government bought and paid for by multinational corporations that have no national allegiance. I’m not a NAFTA expert but anyone who supports an insideous Mexican plot to recapture knows less about this than I.
August 21st, 2006 at 7:42 pmGive them So. Cal, Arizona, Lower New Mexico and Texas. What a deal for the US. 80% of the illegal immagrants would no longer be illegal. They would be back on Mexican soil and dependent once again on their government for schooling and health benefits. Mexico can have Texas -Who cares. Mexico can have southern New Mexico and Arizona’s magnanimous resource of cactus and gila monsters, invading Snowbirds in motor homes and pensioners living in junky single wides. Mexico can supply the electricity water and gas to all 20 million people in So. Cal. instead of Northern California Washington, Idaho, Colorado and Canada.
August 21st, 2006 at 7:52 pmThe only people promoting this “reconquista” idea are bigots! They are simply trying to stir up their bigotted base toward hate, and this will only increase hate crimes against Hispanics. These are simply poor people trying to make a living, which were allowed in because of Clinton approving NAFTA (under Republican pressure), and Bush’s encouragement. This is not some diabolical plan to reconquer the Southwest. Honestly! What would WE do with it?
Here is some coincidence for you: Do you know the last time the country rose up against Hispanics? During the depression. Okies were killing Hispanics in California for jobs. Naturally born Hispanic adults were being shipped back to Mexico, even though they had never lived there. Why? Because the jobs were becoming rare. Ultimately I believe that this is what this is all about. White people wanting to blame Hispanics for their problems.
August 21st, 2006 at 7:55 pmHey Mighty Aphrodite!! What’s a Canuck?
And I agree. We should all get out of the Americas and “Go back where we came from!” See you on the plane. Wanker!
August 21st, 2006 at 7:57 pm“And why is it a bad thing if a majority in any of those states becomes of Mexican descent? Way back in the 1820’s & 1830’s that region was a part of Mexico. The US government encouraged it’s citizens to move to Texas and set up shop. They also pretty much encouraged those same people to stay loyal to the US rather than be loyal to the new country they emigrated to, because that’s what they did they emigrated to a new country (Mexico) and rebelled. Is that what people are afraid of happening in the US? Or are they afraid that Brown people might govern differently than the good people they have governing them now?”
I don’t have anything against brown people, but a lot of immigrants from Mexico have a high drop out rate from high school. Many are illiterate, and can only work low skill jobs. Many do not speak, and don’t seem to be able to learn English. Aside from that, they’re fine.
August 21st, 2006 at 8:18 pmPB says that the Mexican government has a direct program basically to push poor, unemployed uneducated into the united states. Does “direct” mean “official”?
Also, I must defend PB somewhat. Which is highly unusual.
I think suggesting “Mexico Conspiring To ‘Re-Annex’ ” is misleading relative to what I felt PB was saying.
I think PB’s qualification of “linguistically, ethnically, culturally” implies that “annex” is used more as a figure of speech. Although he does mention that poll…
August 21st, 2006 at 8:28 pmI always enjoy Pat, but I don’t always agree with him. I don’t understand why there are any immigration issues in this country. This country was built on the free markets. We are capitalists. In that vain, there should be no major immigration restrictions. Obviously I would want to have a national ID card for terrorism issues and taxation among other things, but we should let anyone come until it is not economically feasible. The free market always wins. That is why we have so many illegal immigrants. We have a good gig here in the US and many others want to participate. Don’t get me wrong. The proliferation of Walmarts, The Gap and other chain stores repulse me, but that’s capitalism. Those stores feed on cheap labor (here and abroad) for service jobs and/or manufacturing. We can’t pick and choose our free markets. They are self fufilling.
August 21st, 2006 at 8:30 pmIf Mexico annexes the Southwestern United States will all the mexicans leave for the rest of the US?
August 21st, 2006 at 8:48 pmMaybe not such a bad thing , but we have to insist they take the deep south with it . But on the other hand I like mexico and I’m not sure I’d wish our backward fundementalist redneck brethren on anybody .
August 21st, 2006 at 8:59 pmI think we should let in hundreds of millions of unemployed Chinese and Hindus to balance out the Spanish people coming in.
August 21st, 2006 at 9:02 pmHey..im mexican and the words of this old man makes me laugh…We are in other types of problems..like make consience in the poor people to not trepasse to the united states because they can dead :(
August 21st, 2006 at 9:30 pm(Sorry for bad english)
First the only people who have any original claim to the southwest is the American Indians we took it from……Mexico had no more claim to this lthan any other Eurocentric power and than we do ….and the Indians themselves were imigrants stealing the land from whatever aboriginal people existed at the time …Yes Paqt Buchanan is a whack job and a racist but….immigrant labor is driving wages down …….and the reason …the only reason we do not have reform is that the companies are addicted to cheap labor and no benefits ……..I have nothing against latin imigrants I belive in strict quotas an all immigrants includinbg whites ones from Canada who speak perfect English ………. The left and right wings of political and social life in this country are equally full of fecies on this issue ……..The United States does not anf never have an obligation to support the people of any nation …If you want what we have reform your colonial government and obsolete cultural infrastructure ….We would never be allowed the same privilidges we allow others when they come here …..Mexico is not an ancient culture cheated of its destiny it is a colonial culture that played the same colonial game we did and lost because we were better at it …at the same time as individuals they are hard working and honest and smart …….10,000 absolutely 10 million no way not of any race, or culture
August 21st, 2006 at 10:00 pm“The notion that Texas was ’stolen’ from Mexico is unsupported by history, seceded from Mexico in 1836. Texas agreed to become part of the U.S. and the Mexican congress approved a resolution on 4 June”
Well, that’s is your true, but remember “Los tratados de Velasco” and you’ll see the real true about this Texas thing, and by the way we are NOT trying to take back any territory…I sad it because perhaps this rumor could cause a new “Bush invansion” to México…
Saludos a todos desde la capital Mexicana !!!
August 21st, 2006 at 10:04 pmPat Buchanan is a nut cake a loose cannon.
August 21st, 2006 at 10:17 pmAlexy
121 says: Does the Mexican government have this as an official plan or is it just a “folk tale†that is turning into reality?
1. Both of the last Mexican presidents have declared that the Mexican Nation extends beyond Mexico’s boundaries and includes all the millions of Americans of Mexican descent. Not just Mexican illegal aliens, but multi-generational M-As.
2. Mexico heavily pushes dual citizenship. Obvious to most, that creates people who have divided loyalties. If there’s a dispute between the U.S. and Mexico, which country are they going to side with?
3. A Mexican government official admitted that one of the goals of a Mexican program designed for Mexican citizens in the U.S. was to keep them Mexican.
There’s much more, so if you want to see just how wrong TP and the Dem Party are, start doing some googling and do your own research. You can also check my site (remove the underscores from lon__ewacko.com) or check out this article:
August 21st, 2006 at 10:29 pmnationalreview.com/comment/comment-fonte032102.shtml
Typical conservative comments, full of fear and blather, afraid to accept that a new America is upon us. People knew that America was changing in the 1970’s. These kind of comments indicate that the con