Wow he killed 2 arguements for his BushBots in 30 minutes flat??
How long til Tony Blow will come out with the obligatory correction of Bush’s support for Plan B statement. (Im sure Daddy Dobson is on the phone right now with ol Karl)
Ouch, Joe. I just was asking because of the confimation of the new head of the FDA. The last time they said it would be passed through and after the confirmation they backtracked…or as in Texas….they lied. DLC are Frauds stated that this is already gone through…I can’t find it. But I will take the $99.00 anyway.
(CNN) — A federal judge in Miami has dismissed the lead terror count against Jose Padilla, the U.S. citizen once identified as a “dirty bomb” suspect and detained for three years without charges as an “enemy combatant.”
U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke tossed out the first of three counts in an indictment handed down last year, Padilla’s lawyer, Andrew Patel, told CNN.
Also, one of the 23 Terror plotters has been released:
LONDON, England (CNN) — Eleven of the 22 people still being held over an alleged plot to bomb trans-Atlantic airliners have been charged in the UK with terrorism offenses and will appear in court on Tuesday.
Counter-terrorism prosecutor Susan Hemming said a 23rd person who was being held, a female suspect, has been released.
There is, of course, no scientific reason whatsoever for the 18 year age restriction. It may look like a victory (should this actually happen), but it sets a dangerous precedent, as it lets politics into the FDA regulatory process (even more so than it already is). If the drug is safe for over-the-counter sale, it should be available. Without ifs’n buts. In fact, teenagers are probably most likely to need it (in the UK, for example, the drug is dispensed by school nurses, no questions asked).
What you linked to was getting the drug with a prescription. I am talking about getting it without a prescription for over 18 yeard olds.
Comment by dlet
Now you got me, dlet, and I am the one who needs to say ouch. I checked out the web site and didn’t see anything about needing a prescription. Says you need to take it within 72 hours or it wouldn’t be effective. So if a woman does need to take one, time would be of the essence. If a woman missed on friday night, for example, and was forced to wait to see a doctor for a prescription, she would be screwed in more ways than one (pun intended).
I thought of calling the pharmacy’s number, but how could I explain why a guy named “Joe” would need a morning after pill?
It’s always been available for $40 with a prescription, bizarre that it’s $99 online. I’m sure it’s a lot less at a pharmacy.
I can see why they want the 18+ restriction, and I don’t entirely disagree with it. PLEASE READ THE REST OF THIS BEFORE JUDGING MY POINT OF VIEW ON THIS. Essentially, they’re afraid that someone who’s younger might be more irresponsible and use it for regular birth control. If you go to a clinic, they generally don’t require parents’ permission and they will counsel you on its’ proper use and whatnot.
I found this out when I was 16 and went to the clinic alone for birth control pills- if you’re under 18 and go to a local clinic for “family planning services,” i.e. birth control/plan B/ abortions, they did not call your parents for permission because family planning is considered a private matter. The very good part about this is that they told you everything you needed to know on a scientific level- all the risks, all the tests that needed doing, and offered support. I’m 23 now and I’ve used Plan B twice before for broken condoms, and I know proper use and side effects and whatnot from having a good doctor. I wasn’t anywhere near as aware when I was 16. Each time I’ve taken it, I’ve been severely nauseaus, so and doctor will discuss these side effects with you so you know what you’re getting yourself into.
My point is that they figure that, by the time you’re 18, all the risks are known and/or they’re far less liable for it. Below the age of 18 they may feel you still need education on what you’re putting in your body, and I can understand that. I worked at summer camp with kids, and, hate to say it, a lot of them aren’t that bright. Having a doctor telling them what they’re doing is a good decision. I think under-18 year olds should be allowed to get plan B without their parents’ having to sign off on it, but seeing a doctor isn’t asking too much.
Baby Killer.
August 21st, 2006 at 2:16 pmNow only if he would support a Plan B in Iraq.
August 21st, 2006 at 2:16 pmIf this goes throught, I will finally have one good thing to say about bush. It should be regulated like condoms though, not like cigarettes.
August 21st, 2006 at 2:20 pmIt has already gone through jerkwad.
August 21st, 2006 at 2:24 pmExcellent.
Now… what about Plan B for teenaged girls (under 18) who are raped by their dads, uncles, neighbors, guardians, etc.????
August 21st, 2006 at 2:25 pmCan Plan B be applied retroactively to the Connecticut for Joe Lieberman campaign?
-GSD
August 21st, 2006 at 2:28 pmIt has already gone through jerkwad.
Comment by The DLC are Frauds
Only took 6 years. Should help him in the polls just before November, though. I wonder if he OK’d that with Pat Robertson?
Poor little sperm cell. All that work to get there first for friggin’ nothing.
August 21st, 2006 at 2:34 pmSperm murderer! I am telling Reverend Richard Land that there is a jizm holocaust about to be perpetrated by George W. Bush.
-GSD
August 21st, 2006 at 2:41 pmBig day for Bush
1. Saddam and Iraq HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11
2. Plan B for women over 18
Wow he killed 2 arguements for his BushBots in 30 minutes flat??
How long til Tony Blow will come out with the obligatory correction of Bush’s support for Plan B statement. (Im sure Daddy Dobson is on the phone right now with ol Karl)
August 21st, 2006 at 2:54 pmuntil the confirmation hearings are over. then he’s against it.
lying piece of shit he is
August 21st, 2006 at 2:54 pmIt has already gone through jerkwad.
Comment by The DLC are Frauds
You sure about this? I thought It was on its way to be passed. Has it been finalized and made into legislation yet?
August 21st, 2006 at 2:59 pmAnyone?
You sure about this? I thought It was on its way to be passed. Has it been finalized and made into legislation yet?
Anyone?
Comment by dlet
Its a done deal. You can even buy it on line:
August 21st, 2006 at 3:08 pm
Here is an online link:
August 21st, 2006 at 3:11 pmhttp://www.sun-pharmacy.com/plan_b.shtml
You sure about this? I thought It was on its way to be passed. Has it been finalized and made into legislation yet?
Anyone?
Comment by dlet — August 21, 2006 @ 2:59 pm
This is not a legislative issue, but an FDA regulatory one.
August 21st, 2006 at 3:11 pm#14,
August 21st, 2006 at 3:14 pmThanks, but is it written in to regulation yet? Everything I have read so far says it is moving forward…nothing concrete.
Thanks, but is it written in to regulation yet? Everything I have read so far says it is moving forward…nothing concrete.
Comment by dlet
What do you need to be convinced, dlet? The $99.00 to order it with?
August 21st, 2006 at 3:23 pmOuch, Joe. I just was asking because of the confimation of the new head of the FDA. The last time they said it would be passed through and after the confirmation they backtracked…or as in Texas….they lied. DLC are Frauds stated that this is already gone through…I can’t find it. But I will take the $99.00 anyway.
August 21st, 2006 at 3:31 pmJoe,
August 21st, 2006 at 3:37 pmWhat you linked to was getting the drug with a prescription. I am talking about getting it without a prescription for over 18 yeard olds.
FYI:
Jose Padilla’s terrorism charge has been dropped.
CNN
August 21, 2006
Judge drops Padilla terror charge
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/21/padilla.charge/index.html
Also, one of the 23 Terror plotters has been released:
August 21, 2006
CNN
Air terror ‘plot’: 11 charged
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/08/21/uk.terror/index.html
August 21st, 2006 at 3:38 pm
Who needs $99? I bet you could just bum afew off one of the twins.
August 21st, 2006 at 3:38 pmThere is, of course, no scientific reason whatsoever for the 18 year age restriction. It may look like a victory (should this actually happen), but it sets a dangerous precedent, as it lets politics into the FDA regulatory process (even more so than it already is). If the drug is safe for over-the-counter sale, it should be available. Without ifs’n buts. In fact, teenagers are probably most likely to need it (in the UK, for example, the drug is dispensed by school nurses, no questions asked).
August 21st, 2006 at 3:44 pmWow, he’s had quite a revealing day with the press. If he keeps this up, the “powers” will stop letting him talk to the press at all.
August 21st, 2006 at 4:03 pmWhat you linked to was getting the drug with a prescription. I am talking about getting it without a prescription for over 18 yeard olds.
Comment by dlet
Now you got me, dlet, and I am the one who needs to say ouch. I checked out the web site and didn’t see anything about needing a prescription. Says you need to take it within 72 hours or it wouldn’t be effective. So if a woman does need to take one, time would be of the essence. If a woman missed on friday night, for example, and was forced to wait to see a doctor for a prescription, she would be screwed in more ways than one (pun intended).
I thought of calling the pharmacy’s number, but how could I explain why a guy named “Joe” would need a morning after pill?
August 21st, 2006 at 4:14 pmJoe,
August 21st, 2006 at 4:19 pmThey would take your $99.00…even if you asked for it with a voice like Darth Vader…..believe me.
With that endorsement from George W. Bush, I now feel so much better about f*cking.
August 21st, 2006 at 9:09 pmI wonder if Rove actually thinks this will help the GOP approval rating?
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:20 amHey Zooey, how ’bout f*cking me ?
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:56 amIt’s always been available for $40 with a prescription, bizarre that it’s $99 online. I’m sure it’s a lot less at a pharmacy.
I can see why they want the 18+ restriction, and I don’t entirely disagree with it. PLEASE READ THE REST OF THIS BEFORE JUDGING MY POINT OF VIEW ON THIS. Essentially, they’re afraid that someone who’s younger might be more irresponsible and use it for regular birth control. If you go to a clinic, they generally don’t require parents’ permission and they will counsel you on its’ proper use and whatnot.
I found this out when I was 16 and went to the clinic alone for birth control pills- if you’re under 18 and go to a local clinic for “family planning services,” i.e. birth control/plan B/ abortions, they did not call your parents for permission because family planning is considered a private matter. The very good part about this is that they told you everything you needed to know on a scientific level- all the risks, all the tests that needed doing, and offered support. I’m 23 now and I’ve used Plan B twice before for broken condoms, and I know proper use and side effects and whatnot from having a good doctor. I wasn’t anywhere near as aware when I was 16. Each time I’ve taken it, I’ve been severely nauseaus, so and doctor will discuss these side effects with you so you know what you’re getting yourself into.
My point is that they figure that, by the time you’re 18, all the risks are known and/or they’re far less liable for it. Below the age of 18 they may feel you still need education on what you’re putting in your body, and I can understand that. I worked at summer camp with kids, and, hate to say it, a lot of them aren’t that bright. Having a doctor telling them what they’re doing is a good decision. I think under-18 year olds should be allowed to get plan B without their parents’ having to sign off on it, but seeing a doctor isn’t asking too much.
August 22nd, 2006 at 3:39 pm