“Starting in October, as many as 2,500 Marines in the Individual Ready Reserve will begin receiving involuntary activation orders to report for a year of duty, according to a Marine Corps manpower official.”
I’m surprised they’d do that just before an election. (Perhaps when politicos hear about it, it’ll be delayed.)
If we ever do re-instate the draft, how about moving to the top of the list the family members of stockholders in corporations that profit from military contracts? The greater the profit and the greater the value of the stock, the sooner that family’s members get called.
I’m surprised they’d do that just before an election. (Perhaps when politicos hear about it, it’ll be delayed.) If we ever do re-instate the draft, how about moving to the top of the list the family members of stockholders in corporations that profit from military contracts? The greater the profit and the greater the value of the stock, the sooner that family’s members get called. Comment by just john
I am not in the least surprised – you can’t do real fear mongering without these soldiers. War president = war Congress = reelect Republican incumbents. I don’t like the “sins of the father” method of drafting for military service – send the fathers.
There is no war, it is only the birthing pains of a new democracy.
There is no draft, there is only involuntary activation of ready reserves.
There is no genocide, there is only segregated depopulation.
There is no dictator, there is only unlimited executive priveledge in the interests of protecting national security.
So far our contestants have submitted the following:
- “Bush will never institute a draft.”
(Sorry, Flamethrower, but you’ve been disqualified. We’ll have no negative thinking in this game!!! However, our consolation prizes today are a can of Turtle Wax and a one day’s supply of Rice-A-Roni. Thanks for playing!)
Field Marshal Bill Kristol is available. Let’s send him off to die for Bush’s utopian vision of securing Iraqi dreams and of candy and chocolates and flowers.
Its so sad that people who fullfill their duty have to continue fighting an idiotic war. Time for a draft that would show true support for the troops. Hey Sean hannity I still haven’t seen you volunteer. Sean Hannity go fight this war on terror in Iraq. Go get ‘em boy !!!!
If nothing more, I want Sean Hannity to get his arse to Iraq and start reporting the good news. CBS News Reporter Lara Logan said not long ago that they wanted to report the good news, but our State Dept. wouldn’t let them because it would tip off the terrorists/insurgents/all-around bad guys and they’d go blow up the new school or new water treatment plant or whatever the subject of the report was. And yet Bush & Co. bitch that the MSM only reports the bad news.
One of the soldiers who was involved with bringing Baby Noor to America for her operation said in an interview on CNN that there were “thousands of good stories” like her’s. Perhaps, and I don’t recall anyone getting blown up when she was brought over here.
Oh we’ve got some good submissions for Name That Draft!
“Call to Freedom Travel Planâ€
“Involuntary Activation of Ready Reservesâ€
“Freedom Agenda Enhancement Planâ€
“The Compulsory Dream Makers Corps”
“Global Goodness Guys”
Sorry, just john, but I’m afraid that “The Rapture†is also too negative. But don’t dispair. Our parting gift to you is 2 bottles of Suave for Just Men shampoo & conditioner!
They will call it the “Operation Iraqi Freedom Expansion Program” and say that they are merely “asking” people to serve (technically they’re asking….you can refuse and go to jail) who didn’t think they had the time.
17 — How is “The Rapture†negative? It’s either a Biblical happy time or it involves Debbie Harry. Who wouldn’t love it?
Comment by just john — August 22, 2006 @ 3:47 pm
OK. You’ve changed my mind. And for portraying something generally negative into something positive, you will receive one (1) pack of Hanes 100% cotton briefs. Wait’ll we get our Hanes on you!
the stage is set for more service men to die at the hands of the Busheviks……when when when when when when will the gutlless Dems initiate impeachment proceedings against these war criminals!!
I did 5 active and still have until June 08 so I am a little nervous.
Also, the term DRAFT cant be used in this, as much as you might all want to think thats whats going on. We (military) all knew what we signed and werent forced to do it. I for one am a little pissed because I did my 5 active and got out Honorably, but I do feel bad for the guys that have been stuck over there for 3-4 tours.
JJ; I know the feeling. I was drafted duriing Vietnam, and was mandatory ready reserve(weekend warrior) 4 years after. Everytime the phone rang in the spring of 1975, I would jump out of my skin(the NVA were doing a blitzkrieg on South Vietnam then).
Why not solve the military manpower problem and the collapse of Social Security in one fell swoop? Merely require that anyone born between VJ day and 18 years before the fall of Saigon who did not serve in Nam serve in Iraq and/or Iran – no exceptions. Also require, by an Amendment to the Constitution, that all kin of all elected officials of the US government serve in the war front as long as the US is involved in a military situation until such kin should reach their 65th birthday or serve six tours of duty.
Are we really running out of volunteers to join our armed forces? Are there too many soldiers dying on the battlefield that we need to recruit and recall more men and woman? OR are we beefing up our armed forces in preparation for a invaion of Iran? Involuntary recall is just one step away from the draft or is it just a new draft term? And if that happens, what will happen to the “don’t ask don’t tell” policy for the armed forces?
No we are not running out of volunteers to join our armed forces, but the amount of soldiers/Marines on inactive duty volunteering is decreasing. As far as the amount of soldiers dying on the battlefield, recalling trained veterans is a faster and more efficient way to temporarilly increase support, which may help reduce the number of casulties. There is no invasion of Iran. Involuntary recall is not a new term, it’s not a draft term, and it has absolutley nothing to do with a draft or the “don’t ask don’t tell” policy.
Bubba, How can you say the involuntary call-up is a measure to “temporarily increase support” when this activity has been going on for almost 5 years now? Calling individuals back and extending them past their military service obligation is a draft, plain and simple.
I also think the “don’t ask, don’t tell policy” should be seriously re-looked. Over a thousands soldiers were put out under this policy. Soldiers who are trained, motivated and willing to serve. While this is going on the Army has lowered its recruiting standard, taking less than qualified soldiers. I would rather be in a unit with trained and motivated soldiers, who happened to be homosexual than a unit with individuals who are forced to be there and with a bunch of CAT IV soldiers.
Is it drafty in here?
August 22nd, 2006 at 2:14 pmI’m surprised they’d do that just before an election. (Perhaps when politicos hear about it, it’ll be delayed.)
If we ever do re-instate the draft, how about moving to the top of the list the family members of stockholders in corporations that profit from military contracts? The greater the profit and the greater the value of the stock, the sooner that family’s members get called.
August 22nd, 2006 at 2:17 pmBush will never institute a draft.
August 22nd, 2006 at 2:19 pmI’m surprised they’d do that just before an election. (Perhaps when politicos hear about it, it’ll be delayed.) If we ever do re-instate the draft, how about moving to the top of the list the family members of stockholders in corporations that profit from military contracts? The greater the profit and the greater the value of the stock, the sooner that family’s members get called. Comment by just john
I am not in the least surprised – you can’t do real fear mongering without these soldiers. War president = war Congress = reelect Republican incumbents. I don’t like the “sins of the father” method of drafting for military service – send the fathers.
August 22nd, 2006 at 2:23 pmTo paraphrase Maxwell Smart – “Does October surprise mean anything to you?”.
August 22nd, 2006 at 2:30 pmThere is no war, it is only the birthing pains of a new democracy.
August 22nd, 2006 at 2:36 pmThere is no draft, there is only involuntary activation of ready reserves.
There is no genocide, there is only segregated depopulation.
There is no dictator, there is only unlimited executive priveledge in the interests of protecting national security.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls…
It’s time once again to play (drumroll please!)…
Name That Draft!
So far our contestants have submitted the following:
- “Bush will never institute a draft.”
(Sorry, Flamethrower, but you’ve been disqualified. We’ll have no negative thinking in this game!!! However, our consolation prizes today are a can of Turtle Wax and a one day’s supply of Rice-A-Roni. Thanks for playing!)
- “Call to Freedom Travel Planâ€
- “Involuntary Activation of Ready Reserves”
I’d like to add this one:
“Freedom Agenda Enhancement Plan.”
August 22nd, 2006 at 2:48 pmField Marshal Bill Kristol is available. Let’s send him off to die for Bush’s utopian vision of securing Iraqi dreams and of candy and chocolates and flowers.
-GSD
August 22nd, 2006 at 2:56 pmHow about the Compulsory Dream Makers Corps?
-GSD
August 22nd, 2006 at 2:57 pm#8,
August 22nd, 2006 at 2:57 pmI’ll add
‘Global Goodness Guys’
Draft: United Poor Youth Offering Uniformed Response Service (UPYOURS)
August 22nd, 2006 at 2:58 pm#8: “The Rapture”
August 22nd, 2006 at 2:59 pmIts so sad that people who fullfill their duty have to continue fighting an idiotic war. Time for a draft that would show true support for the troops. Hey Sean hannity I still haven’t seen you volunteer. Sean Hannity go fight this war on terror in Iraq. Go get ‘em boy !!!!
August 22nd, 2006 at 3:07 pmIf they introduce a draft then im sure we will all become drug taking gays with a criminal records for nicking cars ……..NO DRAFT THEN
August 22nd, 2006 at 3:33 pm#14
If nothing more, I want Sean Hannity to get his arse to Iraq and start reporting the good news. CBS News Reporter Lara Logan said not long ago that they wanted to report the good news, but our State Dept. wouldn’t let them because it would tip off the terrorists/insurgents/all-around bad guys and they’d go blow up the new school or new water treatment plant or whatever the subject of the report was. And yet Bush & Co. bitch that the MSM only reports the bad news.
One of the soldiers who was involved with bringing Baby Noor to America for her operation said in an interview on CNN that there were “thousands of good stories” like her’s. Perhaps, and I don’t recall anyone getting blown up when she was brought over here.
August 22nd, 2006 at 3:37 pmOh we’ve got some good submissions for Name That Draft!
“Call to Freedom Travel Planâ€
“Involuntary Activation of Ready Reservesâ€
“Freedom Agenda Enhancement Planâ€
“The Compulsory Dream Makers Corps”
“Global Goodness Guys”
Sorry, just john, but I’m afraid that “The Rapture†is also too negative. But don’t dispair. Our parting gift to you is 2 bottles of Suave for Just Men shampoo & conditioner!
Keep those suggestions coming folks!!
August 22nd, 2006 at 3:43 pm17 — How is “The Rapture” negative? It’s either a Biblical happy time or it involves Debbie Harry. Who wouldn’t love it?
August 22nd, 2006 at 3:47 pmThey will call it the “Operation Iraqi Freedom Expansion Program” and say that they are merely “asking” people to serve (technically they’re asking….you can refuse and go to jail) who didn’t think they had the time.
August 22nd, 2006 at 3:58 pm19. Be better off in jail. The food is better, get to take daily showers, get airconditioning, you don’t lose limbs (only teeth).
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:32 pm17 — How is “The Rapture†negative? It’s either a Biblical happy time or it involves Debbie Harry. Who wouldn’t love it?
Comment by just john — August 22, 2006 @ 3:47 pm
OK. You’ve changed my mind. And for portraying something generally negative into something positive, you will receive one (1) pack of Hanes 100% cotton briefs. Wait’ll we get our Hanes on you!
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:34 pmthe stage is set for more service men to die at the hands of the Busheviks……when when when when when when will the gutlless Dems initiate impeachment proceedings against these war criminals!!
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:40 pmsubmissions for Name That Draft!
“Boots for the March of Freedom Initiative”
or
“Democracy Rules!!: American Formal Training”
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:33 pm#18 just john; I’d much rather have Debbie Harry. Yum.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:56 pmIsn’t this an unofficial draft?
August 22nd, 2006 at 6:02 pmI did 5 active and still have until June 08 so I am a little nervous.
August 22nd, 2006 at 6:49 pmAlso, the term DRAFT cant be used in this, as much as you might all want to think thats whats going on. We (military) all knew what we signed and werent forced to do it. I for one am a little pissed because I did my 5 active and got out Honorably, but I do feel bad for the guys that have been stuck over there for 3-4 tours.
JJ; I know the feeling. I was drafted duriing Vietnam, and was mandatory ready reserve(weekend warrior) 4 years after. Everytime the phone rang in the spring of 1975, I would jump out of my skin(the NVA were doing a blitzkrieg on South Vietnam then).
August 22nd, 2006 at 6:59 pmJJ; Many war resisters are making their way to Canada. Think about it.
August 22nd, 2006 at 7:01 pmWhy not solve the military manpower problem and the collapse of Social Security in one fell swoop? Merely require that anyone born between VJ day and 18 years before the fall of Saigon who did not serve in Nam serve in Iraq and/or Iran – no exceptions. Also require, by an Amendment to the Constitution, that all kin of all elected officials of the US government serve in the war front as long as the US is involved in a military situation until such kin should reach their 65th birthday or serve six tours of duty.
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:33 pmWhy do they call this site think progress? I see no progress here.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:03 pmAre we really running out of volunteers to join our armed forces? Are there too many soldiers dying on the battlefield that we need to recruit and recall more men and woman? OR are we beefing up our armed forces in preparation for a invaion of Iran? Involuntary recall is just one step away from the draft or is it just a new draft term? And if that happens, what will happen to the “don’t ask don’t tell” policy for the armed forces?
August 24th, 2006 at 2:28 pmNo we are not running out of volunteers to join our armed forces, but the amount of soldiers/Marines on inactive duty volunteering is decreasing. As far as the amount of soldiers dying on the battlefield, recalling trained veterans is a faster and more efficient way to temporarilly increase support, which may help reduce the number of casulties. There is no invasion of Iran. Involuntary recall is not a new term, it’s not a draft term, and it has absolutley nothing to do with a draft or the “don’t ask don’t tell” policy.
September 4th, 2006 at 6:35 pmBubba, How can you say the involuntary call-up is a measure to “temporarily increase support” when this activity has been going on for almost 5 years now? Calling individuals back and extending them past their military service obligation is a draft, plain and simple.
I also think the “don’t ask, don’t tell policy” should be seriously re-looked. Over a thousands soldiers were put out under this policy. Soldiers who are trained, motivated and willing to serve. While this is going on the Army has lowered its recruiting standard, taking less than qualified soldiers. I would rather be in a unit with trained and motivated soldiers, who happened to be homosexual than a unit with individuals who are forced to be there and with a bunch of CAT IV soldiers.
September 11th, 2006 at 7:25 am