Opposition among Americans to the Iraq war
By on Aug 22nd, 2006 at 9:56 am
Opposition among Americans to the Iraq war
has reached a new high. A CNN poll found just 35 percent favor the war in Iraq; 61 percent say they oppose it.
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And yet the capitalist, corporate media will still assert advocating withdrawal from Iraq will hurt Democrats in November.
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:00 amIt appears that 61% of those surveyed are left wing extremists who hate America and want to cut and run, with the express desire to bolster the fortunes of their friends in Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, and Hamas. And they hate Jews, too.
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:02 amHmm…35% favor the war in Iraq…
That percentage sounds awfully similar to Dubya’s approval rating.
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:05 amExtremely good point, which then begs the question as to why so very few politicians, either Democrat or Republican, are not calling for the immediate and rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces from that quagmire in Iraq. Most Americans want the U.S. to finally leave Iraq, as do most enlisted military personnel in Iraq. 87 per cent of Iraqis want the U.S. to at least set a timetable so they can stop occupying their country. Where are the Eugene McCarthys and George McGoverns and J. William Fulbrights of our day? It is way past the time that today’s politicians started growing a spine instead of being so fearful that they are going to be attacked by Karl Rove for being allegedly soft on this absurd war on terror.
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:07 amIt adds new meaning when the president says he won’t pull out as long as he’s president. Asshole. “Freedom Agenda”…sounds like a 401k.
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:15 amIf Bush had any intergity or for that matter, Balls, he would have already
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:16 amdismissed Rove, Rumsfeld & Rice.
Can we trade the ‘3R’s’ for Bin Laden?
How ’bout if we throw in Whitney?
Clinton may have had sex in the Oval Office, but he didn’t make
her Secretary of State.
Clinton merely had one intern suck his dick while in office, Bush expects the whole country to do so.
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:21 amFear promotes tolerance……The more shock and awh this bunch creates the more the public becomes immune to it……Like watching horror movies, pretty soon nothing impresses the masses except a worse horror……….Blessings, we need them …Peace, demand it now…….Impeachment, work for it…
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:22 amFour out of five TP commenters agree — 35% percent of people in this country are hard-core dipshits.
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:28 amYep! you’re right Zooey, ……Have a great day in the halls of justice…..Blessings
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:33 am100% of the 35% still believe that Sadam had WMD’s and was involved with 911… even the president saying otherwise yesterday is not good enough for these people.
Talk about being commited to a lie!
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:35 am100% of the 35% still believe that Sadam had WMD’s and was involved with 911… even the president saying otherwise yesterday is not good enough for these people.
Why do these people distrust our president so much? They must hate America.
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:50 am35% – Homo Ignoramus
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:56 amErroll – I am so pissed at the MSM that I had my satellite cut off, and instead decided to spend that money on high speed internet. As far as where are our heroes? Well, I read a whole lot from jaded ex newspaper journalists (or fired ones), ex CIA analysts, and all the old “left leaning” magazines, like Mother Jones, The Nation, even Vanity Fair and Harper’s. Now the right wing believe that all these sources are nothing but left wing propaganda that spews lies. It just seems that part of their brains that can reason and take in information is plain lacking. Never got developed. Are easy to brainwash…think of Jim Jones and cult leaders like that….what makes a person put all their faith into shysters like that? What made Hitler so powerful? IGNORANCE!~
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:58 amThe headline in my morning newspaper says “Bush adamant: We will not leave.” At least Lyndon Johnson recognized the will of the people and did not run for re-election in 1968. Bush, by contrast, continues to allow military personnel to become needlessly killed and grievously wounded by stupidly staying the course, despite the fact that he knows that the American people recognize that his policy in Iraq is not working and that the majority of this country want the U.S. to finally begin to withdraw those troops from Iraq. Where is the conscience of the Republican party while Bush continues on his egomaniacal display of power and stubborness? A senior member of the Senate, perhaps John Warner, should march over to the White House and try to somehow convince Bush and Cheney to resign for the good of the country. Otherwise, the bloodshed that is occurring to both Iraqis and Americans will continue unabated as long as these two men remain in office.
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:59 amOther People Have Cleaned Up Bush’s Messes His Whole Life: Now It’s Iraq
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:00 amWhy do these people distrust our president so much? They must hate America.
If 9% of the whole world agree with Bush and 35% are in America then according to my calculations 6% of the rest of the world like Bush
THAT MEANS 94% of the world hate him
next president pick a guy with brains and honesty
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:01 amDear Ann, we don’t hate bush, we hate what he and his merry bunch of waramongers have done to our country and the world….Death and distruction for a vendetta and capital gain should never be a reason for continious war’s…Lieing, stealing, distroying the constitution and selling off our country is what this bunch have been doing…Stop the patriot bashing bull shit….
Time to get informed and stop drinking the reich winged kool aid, or move over to you’re red state site and preach to you’re own choir there…..Unless you have something informative to add it’s time to move on dear……..
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:05 amDear Sharon, etc. It was snark.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:09 amDemocrats Down, GOP, Bush Up
In a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken Friday through Sunday, support for an unnamed Democratic congressional candidate over a Republican one narrowed to 2 percentage points, 47%-45%, among registered voters. Over the past year, Democrats have led by wider margins that ranged up to 16 points.
Now 42% of Americans say they approve of the job Bush is doing as president, up 5 points since early this month. His approval rating on handling terrorism is 55%, the highest in more than a year.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:11 amNo offense to anybody but just because a majority of people believe something to be the right course of action, or something is true, doesn’t make it right.
So we oppose the Iraq war? A 61% majority. Running isnt the answer, neither is sending in more troops al la Vietnam.
What 61% shows is that we need new leadership with new ideas. And with new ideas come new answers.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:14 amMy point being that if 35% of Americans still believe Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11, even though Bush has said Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11 and that the war in Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11, that 35% must distrust Bush and hate America if they refuse to believe what their president has said.
Oh, and exley, you might want to read up on “margin of error” in polling. Sheesh.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:14 amWhistling past the graveyard, eh, Ann?
Generic Democrats had been favored over generic GOP candidates by 16 points. But that is now down to two points….A 14-point margin of error??!!! Wow!
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:16 amand then there’s this…OMG
New Christian broadcasting TV special featuring Ann Coulter blames Darwin for Hitler
An upcoming television special produced by a Christian broadcaster that features conservative pundit Ann Coulter blames Charles Darwin for Adolf Hitler, RAW STORY has learned.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:17 amThe 35%: (ouch!) Thank you Bush administration.Can I have another?(oww!)
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:17 amAnn, sarcasm on, off work’s for me….Next time please….Thank’s
Exley, you’re as full of shit as a christmas goose…..We don’t care about no stinking poll’s (bush) quote….red state to exley you’re check’s ready to pick up…..
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:18 am12., Ann, darling. Not to beat a dead horse, but…We don’ trust Bush because HE LIES TO US! And Sharon’s right…lay off the [koo-]koolaid
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:19 amActually, Sharon…That is a USA Today/Gallup poll published today. Bad news for the Dems.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:20 am# 18 Sharon:
I don’t know who the “we” are that you say don’t hate Bush.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:21 amI damn sure HATE that son of a bitch/bastard.
Exley, that 14 is not the margin of error, it sounds more like an upper bound for your IQ.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:21 amok my bad – just read your snark disclaimer. im cranky today. ;)
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:23 amGood Morning Madashell……We made it, it’s not over yet…LOL..How’s the weather over there.? Cool and cloudy here, just like the thread’s….Another day in bizarro bush world…Good post’s BTW…..I’m off to see a Wizard today……Blessings
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:24 amHey, Walt…Don’t blame me for the fact your party is blowing it. I am just a humble distributor of news.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:26 amFolks,ann was being sarcastic in # 12.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:27 amExley – What do you think Bush’s approval ratings will be after the next two to three weeks of non stop Katrina “a year in retrospective” coverage?
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:34 amGood morning to you too Sharon. A bit cloudy this morning that will more than likely make way for more sunshine…the days are growing a bit shorter I notice, and fall is definitely in the air….I had a thought when I woke up this morning. You know how boys like to blow things up…I have a son, and even though both his parents are NOT into that kind of thing, he is. Not really blowing things up, but into pellet guns and paint ball guns, etc. The problem is, those that never got over that, and the man that used to blow up frogs for entertainment is now the most powerful doofus of the free world – that isn’t free anymore. I believe we all have a dark side in each one of ourselves, but we would NEVER act on such things. Its those that don’t have that ability…cheney, rummy, rice, etc….and their blind loyal followers….if it wasn’t bush for them, it would have been a Jim Jones….
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:34 amHis approval rating on handling terrorism is 55%, the highest in more than a year.
Comment by exley
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So,55% of Americans approve the killing of over 100,000 Iraqi civilians in the so-called war against terrorism?
If not–if many or most of those 55% don’t consider the Iraqi invasion as being part of of that war;if they consider the invasion merely necessary to get rid of Hussein,as Bush first insisted,then part of that 55% essentially rejects Bush’s claim that killing in Iraq is a critical part of the war on terror.
That would make the claim of 55% support hollow and essentially meaningless.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:36 amSorry Bingo, You’re right…..I was refering to me and the mouse in my pocket….Blessings, we need them……..
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:37 amHey Exley…thanks for your post! I guess now we can humbly just “give up”, and thus the current administration can continue on it’s successful “agenda” (you know, the success in Iraq, the continued success for Katrina victims, the success for the middle class and poor…etc)
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:39 amMeanwhile, just so I don’t get the impression that you would hijack a thread by throwing an off tangent post, how do you fill about the 61% who oppose “Iraqi Freedom/Iraqi Liberation/Iraqui ties to UBL/Operation:Get Saddam/Mission Accomplished! (ie Iraqi War)
from bush’s talking points yesterday:
Many Democrats want to leave Iraq “before the job is done,” the president said. “I can’t tell you exactly when it’s going to be done,” he said, but “if we ever give up the desire to help people live in freedom, we will have lost our soul as a nation, as far as I’m concerned.”
now, if you have the stomach for it…please see this short movie:
Children of Abraham – Death in the Desert
WARNING: TRUTH & DISTURBING IMAGES
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:42 amExley, I think the story with Bush’s small bounce in the polls is just how small it is. These goons pulled out the stops last weak frantically pushing the FEAR button, and were only able to fool a few percent of the population. They used to get a 20 point bounce out of this kind of trick, but now they are like a worn out junkie, having to hit harder and harder to get high.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:49 amIn #33, exley says:
Hey, Walt…Don’t blame me for the fact your party is blowing it. I am just a humble distributor of news.
exley,
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:59 amGlad to see you agree with me, by the way, I am a Republican.
Exley, Oh Exley, you’re check’s ready…….Hurry on over and pick it up, gotta cash it quick or else it will bounce….Debt level almost to 9 trillion and china’s going to cut us off……..
Mad, Yep! went through that very thing about the gun issue with a step son in 68….Took all the kid’s to gun training, girl’s (btw) they were better shot’s and the boy. Christmas time came and he wanted to go hunting with the men in the family so I bought him a 30-30…My moto has alway’s been, hunting for survival, never shoot anything except what you need to eat or for self protection……Christmas day he shot 4 crows and a dove…..I took away the gun, told him he would get it back when he changed his way’s…Guess what.? He never got it back…….I still have the 30-30….Some thing’s don’t change…….This mad bunch in office will never change they will just escilate to the point of total distruction of our country and the world….They must be ousted and the funding for their madness has to be cut off……..Blessings
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:02 pm# 38 Sharon:
No apology required,keep up the good work.
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:05 pmGeneric Democrats had been favored over generic GOP candidates by 16 points. But that is now down to two points….A 14-point margin of error??!!! Wow!
Not the same statistic you quoted earlier, but then it would be intellectually honest to be consistent.
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:08 pm#35 … GW…Your are correct. I am sure the liberal media will do their best to drive down the president’s numbers with non-stop, biased Katrina coverage over the next several weeks.
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:08 pm#45, Actually, Ann, it is exactly the same poll figures I cited early on:
“[S]upport for an unnamed Democratic congressional candidate over a Republican one narrowed to 2 percentage points, 47%-45%, among registered voters. Over the past year, Democrats have led by wider margins that ranged up to 16 points.”
Moreover, you will not that is among “registered voters.” Polls of “likely voters” are more accurate. Given that the GOP has had a superior “Get out the vote” program in recent years, it is likely that the Dems and GOP are actually tied.
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:11 pm#46 Exley, and that libral media would be what.? where? who.?…….We the slaves of the reich winged nut cases would like to know where to get valed new’s by the libral media.From my recolection NPR, a few web sites and maybe occasionaly CNN we are blocked and sold out to the wealthy kool aid bunch..Please oh please profesed personal campaigner for the reich, do tell us, we want to know…..
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:20 pmSharon…Just to name a few:
CNN
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:22 pmMSNBC
CBS
NBC
ABC
The New York Times
The Washington Post
The Los Angeles Times
Exley, dear, one third of something is not 100%…..All you listed are not left leaning new’s media……..I sure hope the merry bunch of waramongers you support don’t stop to quick in their march of distruction. Frit’s will have to remove you all surgicly from you’re close lock step…….Have a nice day, unless ofcourse you had other plan’s…
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:30 pmNow 42% of Americans say they approve of the job Bush is doing as president, up 5 points since early this month. His approval rating on handling terrorism is 55%, the highest in more than a year.
I was referring to this statistic, exley, which is in fact, well within the margin of error.
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:35 pm#35 … GW…Your are correct. I am sure the liberal media will do their best to drive down the president’s numbers with non-stop, biased Katrina coverage over the next several weeks.
Comment by exley — August 22, 2006 @ 12:08 pm
So if the press checks back in on the greatest natural disaster and failure of the American government they are liberal?
Katrina is a very important event that will forever shape the American psyche and is worthy of the medias attention… it is not their fault that this administrations preparation for and response to it were utterly incompetent.
I guess that it’s too bad for Bush supporters that the main lesson of Katrina is that a week is not nearly enough time for this administration to adequately prepare for a national emergency… Bush and Friends need at least a months notice (two if emergencies are scheduled for Bush’s vacation month of August).
I sure hope the terrorist give Chimpy enough fore warning before they attack us again!!!
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:43 pmInterestingly, Dubya’s increase in the polls is attributable to a rise in standing among independents and women:
“Looking at the current poll data, Bush’s rating has changed more among independents than among Republicans or Democrats. Thirty-six percent of independents approve of Bush in the current poll, compared with an average of 30% since June 1″
“Women are another group that shows a more favorable evaluation of the president in the current poll. Forty-one percent of women approve of Bush, which is his best performance among them in any poll since January and well above the 34% approval he has been averaging among women this summer.”
This increase is beyond the Gallup 3-point margin of error.
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:43 pm“[S]upport for an unnamed Democratic congressional candidate over a Republican one narrowed to 2 percentage points, 47%-45%, among registered voters.
Comment by exley — August 22, 2006 @ 12:11 pm
How meaningful is a poll registering support for unnamed candidates after all candidates have been named?
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:50 pm#54 … Actually, GW, I agree with you. I have never put much stock in generic congressional polls. I was just passing along what I read.
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:52 pmInterestingly, Dubya’s increase in the polls is attributable to a rise in standing among independents and women:
Comment by exley — August 22, 2006 @ 12:43 pm
Pavlov had his dogs and Bush has his pants wetting chickens… how long will he be able to ring the bell and not present them with food before they stop salivating?
August 22nd, 2006 at 1:02 pm#55 – exley,
August 22nd, 2006 at 1:04 pmTea leaves?
Exley, you continue to prove my point, that the bounce is very small, barely larger than the confidence interval, and this in spite of a spasmodic eruption of propaganda from all directions. How long can it last?
August 22nd, 2006 at 1:05 pmMore good news for the GOP in CNN poll:
A poll of 1,047 Americans conducted for CNN by Opinion Research Corporation from Aug. 2 to 3 drew a dramatically different response when it asked people, “How well are things going in the country today?”
A combined 55 percent said things were going “fairly well” (47 percent) or “very well” (8 percent), compared with those who said “pretty badly” (29 percent) or “very badly” (15 percent).
“Only 41 percent of Americans believe that Democratic leaders in Congress ‘would move the country in the right direction,’ ” Mark Preston, CNN’s political editor, writes on the network’s Web site. That is slightly less than the 43 percent of Americans who believe that Republican leaders in Congress ‘would move the country in the right direction.’ ”
August 22nd, 2006 at 1:20 pmPoll: Opposition to Iraq War at All-Time High
CNN
Monday 21 August 2006
Washington – Opposition among Americans to the war in Iraq has reached a new high, with only about a third of respondents saying they favor it, according to a poll released Monday.
Just 35 percent of 1,033 adults polled say they favor the war in Iraq; 61 percent say they oppose it – the highest opposition noted in any CNN poll since the conflict began more than three years ago.
Despite the rising opposition to the war, President Bush said the U.S. will not withdraw from Iraq while he is president.
“In this case, it would give the terrorists and extremists an additional tool besides safe haven, and that is revenues from oil sales,” the president said. “Leaving before the job is done would be a disaster,” he said. (Full story)
A bare majority (51 percent) say they see Bush as a strong leader, but on most other attributes he gets negative marks. (Interactive: Poll results)
Most Americans (54 percent) don’t consider him honest, most (54 percent) don’t think he shares their values and most (58 percent) say he does not inspire confidence.
Bush’s stand on the issues is also problematic, with more than half (57 percent) of Americans saying they disagree with him on the issues they care about.
That’s an indication that issues, not personal characteristics, are keeping his approval rating well below 50 percent.
Majority Disapprove of Bush
Bush’s disapproval rating exceeds his approval, 57 percent to 42 percent.
That’s in the same ballpark as was found in an August 2-3 poll: Bush garnered a 40 percent approval.
And that was up slightly from a 37 percent approval in a poll carried out June 14-15.
Fewer than half of respondents (44 percent) say they believe Bush is honest and trustworthy; 54 percent do not.
And just 41 percent say they agree with Bush on issues, versus 57 percent who say they disagree.
Americans are about evenly split on whether their commander-in-chief understands complex issues, with 47 percent saying yes, and 51 percent saying no.
Democrats Enjoy Lead
Bush’s tepid ratings do not bode well for his party’s odds in the coming congressional elections. Asked which party’s candidate they would vote for if the elections were held today, 52 percent of respondents cited the Democratic Party’s; 43 percent the GOP’s.
Bush dismissed a question about his popularity during a news conference Monday.
“I don’t think you’ve ever heard me say: ‘Gosh, I better change positions because the polls say this or that,’” he told reporters. “I’ve been here long enough to understand, you cannot make good decisions if you’re trying to chase a poll.”
He added, “I’m going to do what I think is right, and if, you know, if people don’t like me for it, that’s just the way it is.”
The poll of 1,033 Americans was carried out for CNN by Opinion Research from Friday through Sunday.
The polls had sampling errors of plus-or-minus 3 points.
August 22nd, 2006 at 1:24 pmSo… if 2/3rds of Americans think something… can it still be un-American? Anti-American? Is any of this making sense?
August 22nd, 2006 at 1:31 pmPubs are doing okay….really, they are…..Pubs are doing okay……really, they are……no problems here……Dems gonna blow it…..really……I mean it……Dems gonna blow it……really…..Pubs doing ok…..really…..I mean it…..
“Exley”
August 22nd, 2006 at 1:35 pmMore good news for the GOP in CNN poll
And more bad news for Americans. Although, we’re talking about a two percentage point difference…41% to 43%….hardly something to get excited about.
August 22nd, 2006 at 2:13 pmExley,
August 22nd, 2006 at 2:16 pmThe poll you cite seems less “good news for GOP” as bad news for incumbents who have either actively supported or failed to challenge BushCo. Lamont-Lieberman is not likely to be an aberation in this election cycle, but a trend: out with the old, in with the new. And this, IMO, is “GREAT news for America”.
Even if the percentage reaches 95% against the war, if they don’t vote in sufficient numbers to oust every Republican running for office, nothing will change.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:30 pmThe votes have to be in numbers so great that the Republiscum vote fraud machine won’t be able to sabotage the election.
#12 ann; I DO hate Bush. The ONLY difference between Bush and Hitler is that Hitler actually fought in a war while Bush hid from one.
August 22nd, 2006 at 6:10 pmOh, leave poor exley alone. He never saw a fact that didn’t offend him.
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:34 pm