Right Wing Reacts To Terrorist Plot With Calls For Radical Ethnic Profiling
Right Wing Reacts To Terrorist Plot With Calls For Radical Ethnic Profiling
Since British authorities revealed a terrorist plot to blow up British planes headed to the United States, the right wing has increasingly called for radical profiling of Muslims. Some lowlights:
Robert Sandler, 8/17/06:
If profiling isn’t acceptable because it’s not Politically Correct, here is another idea: Put the Muslims on one plane and put the rest of us on a different one. If that makes me a “racist,” I can live with that.
Michael Gallagher, 8/15/06:
It’s time to have a Muslims check-point line in American airports and have Muslims be scrutinized. You better believe it. It’s time.
Sher Zieve, 8/20/06:
It appears that if “we the flying public” are going to be safe, no one but ourselves is going to save us. The hell with political correctness! … If the airlines and our “PC” brethren don’t like it, I say “Then follow your own rules!”
Bill O’Reilly, 8/16/06:
Folks who have traveled to Muslim countries, people with criminal records, passengers who are Muslims age 16 to 45 all should be spoken with.
Racial profiling won’t make our nation safer. Terrorists come in all shapes, sizes, and colors. John Walker Lindh was white and Richard Reid was Jamaican and British. As LCCR notes, “[T]errorism profiling is a crude substitute for behavior-based enforcement. It violates core American values, including the constitutional guarantee of equal protection. It also hinders anti-terrorism efforts because it alienates people and communities that are critical to the success of the anti-terrorism effort.”
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Obviously paranoia has set in with some people
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:19 pmI love when people look back at the holocaust or the internment of the Japanese during WWII and say that could never happen now. We are 2 steps away from rounding them up and putting them in camps now.
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:23 pmIf the right wing thinks it can get elected on a racist agenda expect them to use every slur possible to get elected.
No different that Reagan just less subtle now. Appealing to the lowest common denominator of people has always been a good tactic
These reichties don't represent core American principles.
They represent Nazi principles very well though.
Hmmmm.....How about that? I never made the connection before.....
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:26 pmPlease, not this topic again......though it is interesting to see the trolls' true colors shine through as they try to defend their mouthpieces' remarks. I can hear "Achtung Juden!" on the airport p.a.'s already.
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:27 pmpassengers who are Muslims age 16 to 45 all should be spoken with.
So then we should have a Southeast Asian muslim check-in line too? How about an African muslim one? What about.....
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:28 pmAre we all forgetting Timothy McViegh? I forget, which Muslim sect did he belong to?
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:28 pmRichard Reid is mulatto; his father was Jamaican. Take a look at the picture you link to.
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:30 pmLet' sjust invade all muslim countries, set up muslim concentration camps, etc... these guys learn nothing from history.
On another note, I'm laughing now because I just got banned from Red State in less 24 hours after 1 single negative comment. Those guys are cowards.
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:30 pmRacists
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:31 pmnot that anyone reading this will be unfamiliary with history, or its significance, but if 'special lines' or 'extra identification' is ever required for any specific ethnic group we had all better watch out. once it starts it is real hard to stop...
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:31 pmI want my own private plane.
Comment by Scared Conservative who joyously cheered when we were bombing Muslims but are now so afraid of them they can't even look at falahfal without pissing themself.
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:34 pmHow about (white) sleeper cells? Richard Reed, at least from a distance, is white!
Terrorism is not racial-specific. We need to get everyone screened... or no one screened.
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:34 pmHaven't you already beat this drum, TP??? Previously I suggested "search-free flights". ANYONE (White, Arab, Black, Asian, etc.) can opt to board "search-free flights". Law-abiding Muslims who object to capricious searches, progressives who wish to identify with the downtrodden, and terrorists who wish to carry out a militant form of jihad, can fly unfettered. Any of you who wish to travel with those who have subjected themselves and their baggage to searches, please be patient while we screen you and your fellow passengers. For the rest of you, Good LUCK and Bon Voyage.....
Til later.....
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:37 pmHmmm. Given that most terrorists -- and as far as I know, all airplane-highjacking terrorists -- have been male, maybe it'd be a good idea to have profiling based on gender.
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:37 pmHow do we even identify Muslims? "Are you a Muslim?" Aren't there white. black, brown and asian muslims?
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:38 pmAre we all forgetting Timothy McViegh? I forget, which Muslim sect did he belong to?
Comment by Dahju
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Good point,Dahju.
All this attention paid to a certain ethnic type can only make it easier for another McVeigh to slip through the cracks of the system.
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:43 pmI'm surprised no one has suggested tatoo's.
What?!? That's already been done? By whom?
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:43 pmI think it's just stupid to "target" anyone in the searches. Next thing you'll know, al Quida will start to ship in white Muslim extremists and we're all screwed! (yeas, Virginia, there ARE white Muslim extremists! Ask Russia!)
Search EVERYONE! nobody gets a 'free pass" because they're white or Christian or too old. If you've decided to board a plane, you should get searched to protect everyone else and yourself!
Any other decision is not just wrong and stupid, it's incredibly dangerous.
"Oh, I'm sorry, you're way too white to want to kill anyone. Just drive that truck load of manure right up next to the building there, Mr. McVeigh."
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:44 pmIslam isn't a race, it's a religion. These pundits are advocating religious profiling, not racial profiling. Get your terms straight.
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:44 pmBut racial profiling just feels right.
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:44 pmKnow what I mean? Freedom agenda freedom fries freedom marching freedom freedom freedom?
Okay okay okay be all pc whydon'tcha. Religious profiling just feels right. Know what I mean?
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:46 pmI suppose the Sikhs, who have historically been opposed to Moghul incursions into Punjab (and therefore could be considered "anti-Muslim" themselves), would be thrown into these "special queues" as well, by virtue of the fact that the men wear turbans and have beards, eh?
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:46 pmNo 11. It is dangerous ground indeed. McLaughlin this week saw it coming, and seemed to hint the high ground needs to be claimed by muslim centrists. hopefully, before the neo-con buffoons try to pull us all down to play on the same field as 'the terrists'...
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:47 pm"Criminals and Muslims" referred to in one sentence. Sounds like the old "dogs and Jews" routine, or the current favorite by fundamentalist Christians, which is "homosexuals, murderers and bestiality". It's alarming how quickly many of these rightwing commentators are quick to condemn Muslims, both as a religion and as an alleged racial group. It makes me sick to my stomach.
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:47 pmOne Planet
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:49 pmOne People
One Chance
I know that bitch in pink is packin' some serious TNT.
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:50 pmInstead of just profiling the, which may be difficult, as many white folk are now muslims, how about we just have all muslims wear yellow stars or pink triangles. That should help.
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:50 pmIt would be nice to hear moderate Muslim leaders show a little outrage at the idea of Islamic fundamental terrorists. If they did, we may be able to avoid some of the RELIGIOUS profiling that we will certainly see soon. Once that begins, the moderate muslim voices will be evrywhere expressing their outrage. But where is that outrage now? (Of course, we all know that outrage would be ignored by faux and cnn, etc, as it doesn't promote fear fear fear - all muslims are evil!)
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:52 pmBeware the mumu.
America's Least Wanted
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:58 pmYou know, the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear -Peter, Office Space
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:59 pmThis is true of everyone that will ever read this:
First, before all else, you are Human like everyone else.
When we forget that, we risk all kinds of evil. Religion seems to counter this logic at all turns. Next time you're about to talk about how you would 'like a seperate airline for person x', remember that we are ALL Human.
Also remember that using this approach to fight terrorism is like trying to pick the right color umbrella to keep dry in a hurricane.
August 22nd, 2006 at 4:59 pmRacial Profiling is American as Apple Pie!! It's what "we" do best. But it is funny that no one was suggesting racial profiling after Oklahoma City.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:00 pmI like to think "out of the box".
We need to make muslim only airports, to seperate "us" from "them.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:02 pm#45
That's because only darkies are races to these people.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:04 pmThese were the same assclappers that were screaming "racism" when people questioned the sale of US ports to Dubai.
-GSD
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:04 pmJohn Walker Lindh was a terrorist? I don't recall his part in the bombing of innocents...
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:10 pmThere's already a de facto policy in place when ANYONE sees a Muslim board an airplane.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:12 pmO'Reilly and his ilk are merely pumping up the racist base of the right by giving voice to it.
Yeah, but you'd think the superior white side of Richard Reid would have been able to overcome his inferior Jamaican side, wouldn't you? Otherwise maybe the rich genetic heritage of whites ain't all it's cracked up to be...?
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:16 pm... and how will the proposed religious profiling work?
From an earlier thread on this topic, I think the ReichWing should take this opportunity to form a new airline, called Jesus Air (or something similar).
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:16 pm"It also hinders anti-terrorism efforts because it alienates people and communities that are critical to the success of the anti-terrorism effort.â€
Indeed. The most recent foiled British plot was a result of a tip-off from a member of the Muslim community.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:18 pmOne guy who is loving all of this is Bin Laden....those damn western infidels!!!
Just more fuel into the fire.
The right wingers are just insane!!!!!!!
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:18 pmI think the ReichWing should take this opportunity to form a new airline, called Jesus Air (or something similar).
Comment by Jesus Christ God of WAR — August 22, 2006 @ 5:16 pm
Yes, because it is so obvious to tell what a Christian looks like :)
Notice how it's only people with brown skin who get profiled? You don't hear anyone wanting to profile Canadians... and yet the US has customs authorities in the Canadian airports to turn people away there becuase illegal immigration has become such a problem there that it's cheaper...
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:21 pmSandy, you make it sound like you want to be an animal. This is the fundamental problem with both sides of this ever growing conflict. There are Muslims that want to be animals by doing whatever it takes to make their stance known, including hurting innocents. There are Americans that want vengance in the name of people they sooner would have spit on than love before they died, and will hurt innocents to do it.
I think you can see here that innocents are the ones that are getting shit on when people denign to act like animals. That's why everyone must pick a side and become an animal too, otherwise they get killed in the stampede.
And you have it backwards, Sandy. People forget to be human when it's so much easier to ban an animal. Hence, the reason i said what I said. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear.
To make this on topic, profiling has shown no signifigant security increase, has no feasible way of being implemented, and is brazenly unconstitutional. Therefore, it is easy to deduce that it is purely a political move, since that is the only explination left. I am not paying taxes to subsidize political moves, and neither are you.
First, as always, we are human. We would do well to remember this before we lose more than we already have.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:22 pmWASHINGTON (CNN) -- Americans believe Democrats would do a better job of dealing with the situation in Iraq and handling the economy, but Republicans would do a better job against terrorism, according to a poll released Tuesday.
On terrorism, Republicans were favored by 48 percent of respondents, versus 38 percent for Democrats. Eleven percent said there would be no difference and 3 percent offered no opinion.
But on the war in Iraq, respondents favored Democrats over Republicans by 47 percent to 41 percent, with 8 percent saying there would be no difference, and 3 percent expressing no opinion. (Interactive: Poll results on terrorism, Iraq)
That's a reversal of what national sentiment was in January 2003, when Republicans were favored over Democrats 53 to 29 percent in a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.(Complete poll results -- PDF)
http://www.cnn.com
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:24 pmThe answer to that is: No, Jose Padilla IS NOT a terrorist. I post the links yesterday and sent them to TP, but for some reason, they don't think that it is big news that JOSE PADILLA'S TERRORISM CHARGE WAS DROPPED YESTERDAY. THEY ALSO RELEASED ONE OF THE 23 TERROR PLOTTERS AND HAVE ONLY CHARGED 11 OF THE OTHER PLOTTERS.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:25 pmI have a white Muslim friend. He's a Blond, Blue eyed convert to Islam, and he spends a lot of his time in the mosque.
How does Bush plan to profile him ???
Will his license have a red mark on it, telling authorities that he is Muslim ???
Will we have have a national registration for all Muslims ???
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:25 pmIt would be nice to hear moderate Muslim leaders show a little outrage at the idea of Islamic fundamental terrorists. If they did, we may be able to avoid some of the RELIGIOUS profiling that we will certainly see soon.
Yeah! It's THEIR fault we are turning into monsters! Make them stop making us do bad things!
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:26 pmWill his license have a red mark on it, telling authorities that he is Muslim ???
Comment by Jebus Loves me — August 22, 2006 @ 5:25 pm
Perhaps just a crescent on the lapel of a jacket - or on arm bands... maybe even tattoos... to make sure they don't try to hide it.
What else did the Nazis do to mark the Jews?
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:28 pmIt's hard to get publically nailed for terrorism if you're not a dark arabian. But they'r edissappearing dissenters all the time in private.
See what you think about arabian profiling when YOU end up in a secret prison. If you honestly dont'think it can happen to you, then where's your public outrage? I see a lot of you sitting here at your computers complaining and making bold statements, having witty reparte with each other, but how many of you are willing to speak up in public?
Oh, that's right. We have yet to unite and reclaim our rights to non-violent dissent.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:28 pmWhat, no scarlet letter branded on the forehead? That is what it would take. India, after all, has the 2nd largest muslim population. Do you profile all Indians on the off-chance they are muslim? Engaging the brain is not a strong suit for the right-wing flame-throwers. And to think, they make great money to blabber total nonsense.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:28 pmWe are humans when we rationalize and work for the greater good. There are people amongst us who would rather we be fighting each other so that they can benefit. Those are the humans that choose to act like animals.
I keep forgetting 35% of Americans have brains like light switches... it either is or it isn't. People being so damn literal is what got us in this mess in the first place.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:30 pmIt "violates core American values" to have your airplane blown out of the sky or guided into a building because the left does not wish to violate the rules of multiculturalism and political correctness. You know, those rules which forbid the use of common sense, fact or truth. It's amazing. The left lines up on the side of terrorists and against the defense of the UNited States and its citizens and then spends months wondering why it lost the last election. Gee, it must be those Diebold voting machines, Huh?
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:31 pmGlobal Muslim Population Worldwide (1997)
Africa 308,660,000 27.4%
Asia 778,362,000 69.1%
Europe 32,032,000 2.8%
Latin America 1,356,000 0.1%
North America 5,530,000 0.5%
Oceania 385,000 0.0%
World 1,126,325,000 100%
These are a little older numbers, but shows that Muslims come from all different countries and regions. They don't all come from the Middle East and they are not all Arabs. Take Pakistan for instance. Those are Indian Muslims. The is a large percentage of Chinese Muslims and African Muslims.
To think that all Muslims are brown and come from the Middle East is a retarded way of thinking.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:41 pm"Achtung Juden's" Arabic/Muslim equivalent in Arabic is
"intabih ya Muslim"
I suggest that any one who works at an Airport learn this phrase, cause you might have to use it soon.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:43 pmWhat about BROTHER ALI?
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:47 pmOldPuppyMax
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:48 pmHow do you make the logical leap from liberals wanting to protect the American values of innocent until proven guilty, right of dissent, right of assembly, right of religious freedom to your ridiculous notion that liberals are on the side of terrorists? By definition, a terrorist is a person who uses fear as a tool to control someone else's life. Anyone who wants to gut the American democratic ideals and values in exchange for "security" (which is likely to be false anyway) is doing the work of the terrorists. That doesn't sound like liberals to me.
Armstrong gets it, Sandy doesn't.
And OldPuppyMarxist would have you believe that it's common sense that all brown Muslims want to blow up the world. Excuse him while he bends over to recieve payment from the very people that will destroy us all.
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:49 pmThe last couple of guys filling in for Jay Severin, have also been advocating the same thing.
I apologize for not remembering their names ...
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:50 pmOld puppy and the republofascists think we have to break all our own laws to save our way of life. Incredibly stupid, if you break all our laws regarding constitutional freedoms, tolerence, constitutional protection you no longer have America, so what the hell are you protecting?
August 22nd, 2006 at 6:10 pmthe left does not wish to violate the rules of multiculturalism and political correctness.
Comment by OLDPUPPYMAX — August 22, 2006 @ 5:31 pm
For right-wingers, the Constitution and Civil Rights are nothing more than multiculturalism and political correctness.
August 22nd, 2006 at 6:13 pmBill O’Reilly, 8/16/06:
"Folks who have traveled to Muslim countries, people with criminal records, passengers who are Muslims age 16 to 45 all should be spoken with"
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Or men with falafels in their luggage.
But yeh, I agree, with Bill here we should put druggies such as Limbaugh or Noelle Bush, Corrupt Polticians such as Cunningham, People who sexually harass women, such as O'lielly, all those people with DUI's, like Dick and George,those corrupt lobbyists, like abramoff, and and those perverted priests, and of course that white guy who killed Jon Benet as well on the same plane.
August 22nd, 2006 at 6:14 pm[[I mean, after all, these pedantic pundits are "experts" at "profiling" people. Right??]]
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I can see it now -- Limbaugh Airways. The designated Airline of the American Racist Hypocrite Society.
Bill should be on a sex offenders list, that would cut down on his travel time away from his parole officer.
August 22nd, 2006 at 6:27 pmIt “violates core American values†to have your airplane blown out of the sky or guided into a building because the left does not wish to violate the rules of multiculturalism and political correctness. You know, those rules which forbid the use of common sense, fact or truth. It’s amazing. The left lines up on the side of terrorists and against the defense of the UNited States and its citizens and then spends months wondering why it lost the last election. Gee, it must be those Diebold voting machines, Huh?
Comment by OLDPUPPYMAX
It's NOT "rules of multiculturalism" (whatever that is) or "political correctness." It is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
August 22nd, 2006 at 7:05 pmLet's try to approach this from a different standpoint. The risk of being hit by lightning os higher than the odds of being the target of a terrorist act. People walk in the rain all the time accepting the risk of being hit by lightning but somehow even though the risk of being the objest of terrorism is much lower, you won't get on a plane with Muslims? Doesn't make sense.
August 22nd, 2006 at 7:33 pmTo think that all Muslims are brown and come from the Middle East is a retarded way of thinking.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
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Of course.
But I think Bush and his people would like that distinction to be lost.
"Muslims--potential terrorists."
August 22nd, 2006 at 7:38 pm"Arabs~Muslims."
"All those Arabs--with all that oil--potential terrorists.They can't be trusted with that oil."(And they can't be trusted to sell that oil in exchange for U.S. dollars,as OPEC agreed to decades ago.)
Sandy
What i learned at school was not to fear people! Even the worse criminals!
You went to school with Bush, Rummy, Cheney?
August 22nd, 2006 at 7:51 pmBut, I thought that you were taught in church to love everyone as your own brother. These so called Christians (yeah right) sure aren't following the teachings of Jesus.
August 22nd, 2006 at 8:13 pmThe solution is obvious:
The only persons allowed on domestic flights are American citizens who have been vetted for air travel by the wise and powerful Department of Homeland Security and have good credit scores.
For international flights, non-citizens may travel only to their country of origin, and must be searched thoroughly and carry no luggage, as well as being required to swear an oath that they are in no way planning any kind of disruptive activities in the future.
This is the only way any of us will be safe when we fly.
August 22nd, 2006 at 8:14 pmWhat the hell is wrong with these people? Their pants are so wet, their history books fell apart?
August 22nd, 2006 at 8:36 pmWhat about if we just profiled ANY male between 19 and 40 (or whatever the range seems to be)? It would be based strictly just on gender and age. Haven't all the airline bombers and would-be bombers fallen into that bracket? (I do realize the recently-accused would-be bombers in England include a soon-to-be-Mom, but it hasn't yet been proven that she was actually a would-be bomber.)
August 22nd, 2006 at 9:00 pmAnyway, it'd still be unfair, but it'd drastically narrow down the list of suspects to search on any given flight...
Be careful of falling into the trap. Mass media has programmed most of us westerners to be anti-racist. The purpose of this kind of media is to attract the backlash from obviously stupid racist comments.
This backlash then leads to the solution: "Instead of racial profiling we should use new technologies to scan people for behavioural profiling."
The objective is to gain more support for Lie Detectors/Stress Detectors and other more advanced technologies.
In truth the dangers of terrorism on a plane is very very low (look at the stats). These technologies are only wanted to increase costs of air travel and increase centralised power.
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:01 pm[...] We then have the extraordinary question of Bush and Blair discussing the possible arrests over the weekend. Why? I think the answer to that is plain. Both in desperate domestic political trouble, they longed for "Another 9/11". The intelligence from Pakistan, however dodgy, gave them a new 9/11 they could sell to the media. The media has bought, wholesale, all the rubbish they have been shovelled. ____________________ Think Progress condemns the calls for ethnic profiling, noting that "terrorists come in all shapes, sizes, and colors. John Walker Lindh was white and Richard Reid was Jamaican and British." True, but what about all the other terrorists? This entry is filed under Great Britain, Terrorism, American Left. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. Leave a Reply [...]
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:23 pmi'm not worried about abdul. i'm worried about john, terry, and richard (not the english one). abdul we have in the sights. john, terry, and richard are another matter for this country.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:34 pmI totally agree that we should wiretap suspected terrorists. I don't think any american would disagree with that statement. All we ask is that the current republican administration follow the law and get a warrant to spy - from the courts, before they do it. Very simple process. If they refuse to get a warrant, (which they have side-stepped) then who are they REALLY spying on? Political opponents? You? Me?
Why doesn't this administration get warrants? What are they trying to hide?
August 23rd, 2006 at 12:12 amActually the idea of racial profiling Arabs is brilliant if you think about it.
Bush's clear strategy has been simple.
He can't catch the terrorists that killed us on 911, so he went out and created a whole new batch of terrorists in Iraq, and around the world by simply invading Arab land, Muslim Holy land, and killing thousands upon thousands of their mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters.
Simple. You can increase your success in killing terrorists simply by making more terrorists. Its certainly easier than taking an expiditionary force into Kashmir to kill the original small group of terrorists who were actually involved in 911.
It was a simple plan and it worked brilliantly.
Now, the President and the right want to extend this success by tapping a whole new group of Muslims and Arabs who haven't yet been recruited into becoming eternal haters of all that is America.
I mean, what methodology, what tactic or technique could ensure success more than legalized prejudice against their entire race? Leglized, Federalized bigotry. Pure genius!
Its the best plan in the world to ensure an endless supply of terrorists to kill.
Yes sir, this ones a keeper.
August 23rd, 2006 at 12:19 amThe best way to make sure we kill more terroists, is simply by creating more terrorists to kill.
August 23rd, 2006 at 12:24 amSorry, overcooked link landing on first html flight 116.
August 23rd, 2006 at 12:27 amRead the real story behind terror here "voice from the white hose
August 23rd, 2006 at 12:28 amhttp://www.tbrnews.org/index.htm
since when was john walker lingh a terrorist? that's ridiculous. he moved to afghanistan long before the us miliary illegally invaded - as if that's some sort of justificationf or calling him a terrorist.
August 23rd, 2006 at 1:33 amHeHeHe... Some humor here... I see we can all laugh about it.
Getting real racial profiling while the consitution is still intact is a no go. So why are we all in a tizzy of what some dumb white Republican racists have to say. The closest they've ever gotten to anyone brown is the guys who mow their yard and hand them their order at Mickey D's.
The real question is are the NASCAR majority smart enough to tell them to pound sand or fall along with their racist overtones.
August 23rd, 2006 at 2:11 amPut the Muslims on one plane and put the rest of us on a different one.
In that case, could I please fly on the plane with the Muslims? I have a feeling that Osama would be more likely to target the other one.
August 23rd, 2006 at 3:27 amDoes this mean terrorists like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle, Rice, Powell, Wolfowitz, Rove etc,. will be on the "Muslim Only" Plane?
August 23rd, 2006 at 7:17 am[...] Of all the things to bring back out of the past…did it have to be rampant racism and segregation? What…did too many politicians find their old hoods in the attic and want to relive the good ol days, this time against the Muslim world? Here’s some news for you guys: John Walker Lindh was white, and Richard Reed was Jamaican/British. Timothy McVeigh was white. The Unibomber was white. But then again, I’m trying to talk to people who still think that Saddam had something to do with 9/11. [...]
August 23rd, 2006 at 9:06 amStill one point I want to make. Any REAL muslim will never kill the innocent or do anything injust. Any REAL christian could never agree to this racist bullsh*t Bill O'Reilley and co keep uttering..
August 23rd, 2006 at 10:51 amIf they do this, can I ride on the Muslim plane? I'd feel a lot safer than being on the wingnut plane...
August 23rd, 2006 at 1:09 pmExcellent logic Fool Zero.
I suggest everyone who wants to understand our current predictiment, that they go out and rent a copy of "Beneath the Planet of the Apes".
It is an excellent portrayal of our current crisis of division, and watching it, you'll see its clear that the apes problems are our problems. From the Gorrilla brutality to the silencing of the Chimapanzees, you'll see an almost prophetic prediction of our current crisis of humanity right here in the US.
Hint: General Ursus is Bill O'reilly...
No seriously, I think he was played by Bill O'reilly.
August 23rd, 2006 at 1:18 pmThese ideas are exactly what the terrorists were hoping for after 9/11. These Right Wing nutcases are caving in to the terrorists by calling for more and more restrictions on our Freedoms in this country. Just the outcome the terrorists wanted to see. And these same wingnuts call Dems traitors?? Wake up America, before it's too late.
August 23rd, 2006 at 1:22 pmPussies.... Right Wing PUSSIES. They talk a big talk, but only while standing behind a white supremacist with a gun. Right wingers want to create a culture of fear to hide their pathetic cowardice... the Greatest Generation should weep to see how spineless their children have become.
August 23rd, 2006 at 1:32 pmWill someone explain why it is so bad to search a higher percentage of middle eastern young men that travel?
August 23rd, 2006 at 1:56 pmwhy is that wrong?
if it was cross burnings in the south that were happening wouldnt we search more white guys with short hair cuts?
travel is optional ya know.. and i dont think searching grannies makes ANY sense..
its a numbers game.
go with the numbers.
please.. some nice liberal explain to me why it should be a completely random search not using known traits of current terrorists.
please.. be kind.. just explain
One additional thought.
August 23rd, 2006 at 1:58 pmshouldn't we let law enforcement use their brains?
if you say they have none.. then.. fine.. be a jerk.. but..
commmons sense says use what you know to increase your chances to catch 'bad guys'
again.. explain searching grammas again to me.
i believe that bush's white house is more integrated by far than clinton's was
August 23rd, 2006 at 2:24 pmif this is really true..
why dont we hear about it?
#136 - "...explain to me why it should be a completely random search not using known traits of current terrorists...." Comment by kent j
******Dear KentJ - Haven't been a lib in years, but I know and work with TONS of them. Here are a couple of reasons they HATE the idea of terror profiling:
a.) as ALL good liberals and progressive/socialists "KNOW", they are far superior in intellect and deductive reasoning than ANYBODY else, ever. (When they take a position, there is NO room for argument - THEY ARE ALWAYS RIGHT, OR LEFT...)
b.) they have a weird need to be LOVED, VALUED and ADMIRED by EVERY downtrodden, disparate group and all socialist intelligensia. "Collective guilt" is a hallmark of self-loathing progressives....If they can see past potential hijackers, ignore obvious demographic trends and view every one of the nineteen 9/11 murderers as misguided individuals, are feel just a tad superior. And the true oxymoron is that they loathe individual achievement, individual responsibility, and engage in group think ad nauseum - all the while telling you how they value individuals. Go figure. They are pitiful.
Busy day....
August 23rd, 2006 at 2:41 pmtolerance, kindness, respect and diversity.
I have never seen on ANY board of any political slant any of the above four.
I really feel to find so many hateful and 'trollish' postings on a liberal board like this is really hypocritical. I dont see an exchange of ideas, struggling with right and wrong, trying to understand and be compassionate. i just see yelling.
i have never met a leftist person that was tolerant. period. SOMEONE show me to be wrong.
August 23rd, 2006 at 2:52 pmThese ideas are exactly what the terrorists were hoping for after 9/11.
Comment by Darin — August 23, 2006 @ 1:22 pm
Right on the money Darin.
Osama Bin Laden
August 23rd, 2006 at 3:58 pmWinter, 2001
Will someone explain why it is so bad to search a higher percentage of middle eastern young men that travel?
Comment by kent j — August 23, 2006 @ 1:56 pm
Certainly Kent.
First, it takes courage to live free. It takes courage to be a real American.
What the conservatives call courage is by definition cowardice. They think if they voluntarily hand over their shampoo in the airport, that they are courageous.
They think if they believe the President, even when all of the facts point to his lying, even when every strand of logic and reason point to his lying, that if they just "believe" that somehow they are courageous.
They think that volunteering our rights to privacy, changing laws to spy on anyone and everyone, and attacking the helpless and defenseless people of tiny nations is courage.
Now they think that legalizing racisim is somehow courageous.
Its not.
Real courage means being willing to risk your life if need be to live in a free and open society
Real courage means to make sure that NO American is punished for the color of his skin, and that we do not regress into a paranoid, prejudiced federally controlled society of little gooestepping, flag waving mini-van moms. Real courage is being willing to live in a free and open society, where yes, terrorists may kill "some of us".
Real courage means not letting them kill our democracy.
Real courage, means being willing to die for your country, instead of just being willing to kill for your country.
Hows that?
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:13 pmPatrick Henry
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:25 pmMarch 23, 1775.
Liberals make great Americans.
Conservatives make great sheep.
August 23rd, 2006 at 5:18 pm#101 WORFEUS,
How's that? Very good indeed.
August 23rd, 2006 at 7:52 pm#103 Hmm, I wonder if Perry Ferrel was talking about conservatives? "They make great pets"
August 23rd, 2006 at 8:08 pm[...] Right Wing Reacts To Terrorist Plot With Calls For Radical Ethnic Profiling I’m shocked. Really. (tags: RightWing) [...]
August 23rd, 2006 at 8:13 pmWhy should muslims get their own check in lines. Why not oned for pissed off assholes like me? - oh, wait..that line is always full. Make a special line just for me - and go easy on the cavity searches.
August 24th, 2006 at 12:05 amget a grip..we already do racial profiling..ever heard of Affrimative Action? When the FBI was looking for the DC sniper they were looking for white males because they had profiled all previous snipers as being white males and so they discounted eye witness accounts of suspicious black males which made the investigation drag on longer than necessary.
do the profiling and we'll all be safe.
August 24th, 2006 at 2:14 pm[...] If airports set up special lines at security checkpoints for Muslims, as various right-wingers have been suggesting, may I suggest an express line for atheists, with lighter security checks? [...]
August 25th, 2006 at 2:23 pm