Comments on: White House Falsely Claims New Stem Cell Study ‘Has Not Been Reviewed By Scientists and Bio-Ethicists Yet’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:45:07 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: My Cracks and Serials http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-4613306 My Cracks and Serials Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:20:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-4613306 <strong>My Cracks and Serials</strong> I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view My Cracks and Serials

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]]> By: Political Opinion » WH Falsely Claims Stem Cell Study Has ‘Not Been Reviewed by Scientists’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-789292 Political Opinion » WH Falsely Claims Stem Cell Study Has ‘Not Been Reviewed by Scientists’ Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:09:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-789292 [...] Today, a new study was published that shows embryonic stem cells lines can be created without the destruction of human embryos.The White House said that the study “has not been reviewed by scientists and bio-ethicists yet.” Actually, the paper went through a rigorous scientific peer review and was scrutinized by bio-ethicists. read more | digg story Digg this [...] [...] Today, a new study was published that shows embryonic stem cells lines can be created without the destruction of human embryos.The White House said that the study “has not been reviewed by scientists and bio-ethicists yet.” Actually, the paper went through a rigorous scientific peer review and was scrutinized by bio-ethicists. read more | digg story Digg this [...]

]]> By: Jim http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-754138 Jim Sat, 26 Aug 2006 03:31:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-754138 Is this President Bush a part of the human race and if so does he have a brain.Im completely embarrased by this idiot that in my opinion has no feelings at all for any person with medical conditions that stem cell research gives hope to.I hope this guy thinks before he speaks from now on. Is this President Bush a part of the human race and if so does he have a brain.Im completely embarrased by this idiot that in my opinion has no feelings at all for any person with medical conditions that stem cell research gives hope to.I hope this guy thinks before he speaks from now on.

]]> By: Salt on Everything » Blog Archive » Of Course http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-754059 Salt on Everything » Blog Archive » Of Course Sat, 26 Aug 2006 03:02:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-754059 [...] Unfortunately, huge factors like “ego” and “pride” are blinding the White House, causing them to lie about the study to save face. Via ThinkProgress: In today’s New York Times, White House spokeswoman Emily Lawrimore said “Any use of human embryos for research purposes raises serious ethical questions. This technique does not resolve those concerns.” This afternoon, the White House changed their story. Here’s Deputy Press Secretary Dana Perino: QUESTION: Any decision to perhaps revisit the President’s position on federal funding for stem cell research, in light of this new development that was published yesterday in the journal Nature? [...] [...] Unfortunately, huge factors like “ego” and “pride” are blinding the White House, causing them to lie about the study to save face. Via ThinkProgress: In today’s New York Times, White House spokeswoman Emily Lawrimore said “Any use of human embryos for research purposes raises serious ethical questions. This technique does not resolve those concerns.” This afternoon, the White House changed their story. Here’s Deputy Press Secretary Dana Perino: QUESTION: Any decision to perhaps revisit the President’s position on federal funding for stem cell research, in light of this new development that was published yesterday in the journal Nature? [...]

]]> By: hypermach http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-753836 hypermach Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:19:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-753836 How afraid are the suits at the HMOs over stem cell research? Maybe they can make money from it maybe not. That is not a position any responsible manager would want to be in. Jr's power comes from the alignment of the social (ultraconservative) and economic (really big money). Stem cells hits both these groups, so there will never be a 'rational' reason to go forward. How afraid are the suits at the HMOs over stem cell research? Maybe they can make money from it maybe not. That is not a position any responsible manager would want to be in. Jr’s power comes from the alignment of the social (ultraconservative) and economic (really big money). Stem cells hits both these groups, so there will never be a ‘rational’ reason to go forward.

]]> By: Pollywogs! » Blog Archive » I’m addicted to digg.com http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-753757 Pollywogs! » Blog Archive » I’m addicted to digg.com Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:11:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-753757 [...] http://www.freetheplant.com/2006/08/24/czech-it-out-marijuana-isnt-the-problem-drug-laws-are/ http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060824/NEWS01/608240332/1002/NEWS http://www.boingboing.net/2006/08/24/report_my_6yearold_w.html http://bugguide.net/node/view/30113/bgpage?take2 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/ http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=913013 [...] [...] http://www.freetheplant.com/2006/08/24/czech-it-out-marijuana-isnt-the-problem-drug-laws-are/ http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060824/NEWS01/608240332/1002/NEWS http://www.boingboing.net/2006/08/24/report_my_6yearold_w.html http://bugguide.net/node/view/30113/bgpage?take2 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/ http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=913013 [...]

]]> By: keepinon http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-753501 keepinon Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:52:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-753501 Now that the "we can't save life by destroying (microscopic) life" argument has gone up in smoke, what is left for BushCo? "To be honest with yall, we just really are not that concerned with saving your life??" Now that the “we can’t save life by destroying (microscopic) life” argument has gone up in smoke, what is left for BushCo? “To be honest with yall, we just really are not that concerned with saving your life??”

]]> By: theamerican http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-753498 theamerican Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:50:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-753498 They may mean that the process hasn't been repeatedly tested or examined, and not just the paper. By the way, I love the comment above about "I hate conservatives... fascists..." Makes me really respect his open-mindedness and cultural sensitivity. They may mean that the process hasn’t been repeatedly tested or examined, and not just the paper. By the way, I love the comment above about “I hate conservatives… fascists…” Makes me really respect his open-mindedness and cultural sensitivity.

]]> By: Az_Squeegee http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-753123 Az_Squeegee Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:37:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-753123 "This study today reported in Nature Magazine has not been reviewed by scientists and bio-ethicists yet " That statement is so internally contradictory as to be vaulting solidly into the Orwellian. Make no mistake ladies and gents, the current republican party/administration will tear down everything that good American's value about this country to stay in office, and there are plenty of people out there who follow the politics of the soundbite. How else can you explain Bush still having a popularity in the 30s, and liars like McCain and Lieberman and idiots like Allen and Inhofe being able to stay in office. It's a real shame that half of Americans are stupider than average. : ) “This study today reported in Nature Magazine has not been reviewed by scientists and bio-ethicists yet ”
That statement is so internally contradictory as to be vaulting solidly into the Orwellian. Make no mistake ladies and gents, the current republican party/administration will tear down everything that good American’s value about this country to stay in office, and there are plenty of people out there who follow the politics of the soundbite. How else can you explain Bush still having a popularity in the 30s, and liars like McCain and Lieberman and idiots like Allen and Inhofe being able to stay in office.

It’s a real shame that half of Americans are stupider than average. : )

]]> By: WORFEUS http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-753056 WORFEUS Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:54:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-753056 Maybe if the scientists "recant", then Bush can spare them from being beheaded as heretics, and just confine them to house arrest for the rest of their lives. Maybe if the scientists “recant”, then Bush can spare them from being beheaded as heretics, and just confine them to house arrest for the rest of their lives.

]]> By: Content Globe » Blog Archive » Human cloning study is university challenge http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-753000 Content Globe » Blog Archive » Human cloning study is university challenge Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:05:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-753000 [...] White House Falsely Claims New Stem Cell Study Has Not Been …Think Progress, DC - 19 hours agoToday, a new study was published that shows embryonic stem cells lines can be created without the destruction of human embryos. … [...] [...] White House Falsely Claims New Stem Cell Study Has Not Been …Think Progress, DC - 19 hours agoToday, a new study was published that shows embryonic stem cells lines can be created without the destruction of human embryos. … [...]

]]> By: Weapons of Mass Distraction http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-752819 Weapons of Mass Distraction Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:23:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-752819 <strong>...more distractions from Iraq, the so called "war on terror", and Bush's failed foreign policy</strong> …more distractions from Iraq, the so called “war on terror”, and Bush’s failed foreign policy

]]> By: Russell Scott http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-752499 Russell Scott Fri, 25 Aug 2006 03:57:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-752499 The once small square peg of stories based on information of convenience did actually fit in the round-hole of reality. Since the cube of misinformation has expanded exponentially to behemoth proportions, anything resembling true fact gets more far fetch with each following comment. Once the first big lie got out of the bag, everything else that followed has been more gargantuan than the previous one. Ultimately they will insure the snaring of their own trappings. I can't imagine the shield of mystery that will follow the day of embarrassing discovery. Who will become expendable then? Will the media become an instant blanket of military stealth? Check back next month for the continued unraveling. The once small square peg of stories based on information of convenience did actually fit in the round-hole of reality. Since the cube of misinformation has expanded exponentially to behemoth proportions,
anything resembling true fact gets more far fetch with each following comment. Once the first big lie got out of the bag, everything else that followed has been more gargantuan than the previous one. Ultimately they will insure the snaring of their own trappings. I can’t imagine the shield of mystery that will follow the day of embarrassing discovery. Who will become expendable then? Will the media become an instant blanket of military stealth? Check back next month for the continued unraveling.

]]> By: WORFEUS http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-752430 WORFEUS Fri, 25 Aug 2006 03:18:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-752430 Mel, George and Pat. The new Stooges. Mel, George and Pat.

The new Stooges.

]]> By: The Nose http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-752402 The Nose Fri, 25 Aug 2006 03:01:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-752402 Whose the craziest: Mel Gibson, George Allen, or Pat Buchanan? <a href="http://noseknowledge.blogspot.com/2006/08/today-in-bigotry.html" rel="nofollow">Visit my blog</a> to find out. Whose the craziest: Mel Gibson, George Allen, or Pat Buchanan? Visit my blog to find out.

]]> By: SUSA http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-752383 SUSA Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:52:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-752383 <strong>They are liars!</strong> They are liars!

]]> By: SUSA http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-752381 SUSA Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:51:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-752381 I hate conservatives. All thier beliefs are fascist. We must stop them from having any sort of control at all. They are fools! I hate conservatives. All thier beliefs are fascist. We must stop them from having any sort of control at all. They are fools!

]]> By: WORFEUS http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-752360 WORFEUS Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:43:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-752360 Religious nuts have been the single most determining factor in retarding human knowledge, technology and science. Notice that shortly after one of the first countries to be formed with that prohibits mingling religious authority with federal authority, that technology and medicine leaped forward in bounds? Doesn't anyone wonder why mankind existed on this planet for so many thousands of years, with nothing but the most rudementary of technologies and medicines? Then suddenly, just after America was formed, suddenly science and medicine began taking leaps and bounds forward. Oh sure it was still hampered, and it is to this day. But woudn't everyone like to see how fast science and medicine advance as soon as we take the last bastion of religous fanaticism away? The right wing. Their last hold out in America. Religious nuts have been the single most determining factor in retarding human knowledge, technology and science.

Notice that shortly after one of the first countries to be formed with that prohibits mingling religious authority with federal authority, that technology and medicine leaped forward in bounds?

Doesn’t anyone wonder why mankind existed on this planet for so many thousands of years, with nothing but the most rudementary of technologies and medicines? Then suddenly, just after America was formed, suddenly science and medicine began taking leaps and bounds forward. Oh sure it was still hampered, and it is to this day.

But woudn’t everyone like to see how fast science and medicine advance as soon as we take the last bastion of religous fanaticism away?

The right wing.

Their last hold out in America.

]]> By: RealScientist http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/comment-page-2/#comment-752355 RealScientist Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:38:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/24/white-house-falsely-claims-new-stem-cell-study-has-not-been-reviewed-by-scientists-and-bio-ethicists-yet/#comment-752355 <em>FWIW, whether peer review works (which it does, for the most part) is irrelevant to the question of whether the White House lied about it’s not being peer reviewed. Comment by Arne Langsetmo — August 24, 2006 @ 10:29 pm</em> Yeah, and that's why I think mikep is obfuscating. You and I and everyone else here says the administration lied about the paper not being reviewed, which the administration certainly did lie about, and mikep posts eight comments trying to change the subject to "well, yeah, but peer review doesn't really work anyway...." FWIW, whether peer review works (which it does, for the most part) is irrelevant to the question of whether the White House lied about it’s not being peer reviewed.

Comment by Arne Langsetmo — August 24, 2006 @ 10:29 pm

Yeah, and that’s why I think mikep is obfuscating. You and I and everyone else here says the administration lied about the paper not being reviewed, which the administration certainly did lie about, and mikep posts eight comments trying to change the subject to “well, yeah, but peer review doesn’t really work anyway….”

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