Gen. Batiste: Rumsfeld ‘Served Up Our Great Military A Huge Bowl of Chicken Feces’
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By on Aug 25th, 2006 at 5:25 pm
Gen. Batiste: Rumsfeld ‘Served Up Our Great Military A Huge Bowl of Chicken Feces’
Today on MSNBC, retired General John Batiste — former commander of the First Infantry division in Iraq — said that it was “outrageous” Rumsfeld was still in charge of the Pentagon. Batiste added, “He served up our great military a huge bowl of chicken feces, and ever since then, our military and our country have been trying to turn this bowl into chicken salad.” Watch it:
Transcript:
Donald Rumsfeld is still at the helm of the Department of Defense, which is absolutely outrageous. He served up our great military a huge bowl of chicken feces, and ever since then, our military and our country have been trying to turn this bowl into chicken salad. And it’s not working.
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Chicken feces… Isn’t that Rummy’s middle name?
August 25th, 2006 at 5:28 pmChicken Shit: That describes all the Neocon warmongers that have never served in the military.
August 25th, 2006 at 5:28 pmCan Dubya’s incompetence get any worse? Fire Rumsfeld!
August 25th, 2006 at 5:30 pmHow much longer will it be before ACTIVE DUTY generals start publicly saying these things?
August 25th, 2006 at 5:33 pmRemember, folks, Rummy and the rest only look incompetent if you judge their actions against their stated goals. If you consider their actions in the light of their actual goals, they’re right on track.
August 25th, 2006 at 5:34 pmgosh, general, don’t hold back… tell us how you REALLY feel…!
And, yes, I DO take it personally
August 25th, 2006 at 5:36 pmWhy this certainly brings new meaning to getting your salad tossed, does it not? =]
August 25th, 2006 at 5:38 pmI wonder what the Las Vegas odds are that General Batiste will be smeared before Monday?
August 25th, 2006 at 5:40 pmHe deserves the Medal Of Freedom…Rumsfeld deserves prison (along with Bush, Cheney, Rove, et. al)
August 25th, 2006 at 5:44 pmMmmm. Chicken feces..
Anyone for seconds? (Iran)
August 25th, 2006 at 5:44 pmThe Three Stooges - Rummy - Bushy - Cheny Shoot in Face….you see, they need to stick together because their identity comes from each other. Split them up and it all falls down. They are just a scuzzy streeg gang that happens to run the United States of America
Bastards
August 25th, 2006 at 5:44 pmIt doesn’t take a genius to tell the difference between chicken shit and chicken salad.
-Dnab Slieg J.
August 25th, 2006 at 5:45 pmhttp://www.unseatbush.com/images/3stooges_war.jpg
August 25th, 2006 at 5:49 pmsorry about the tiny image, try this one =]
more and more, the public will ask for accountability
August 25th, 2006 at 5:49 pmcodependent criminals is what they are
August 25th, 2006 at 5:50 pmAnyone for seconds? (Iran)
Comment by WORFEUS — August 25, 2006 @ 5:44 pm
I scared the chicken feces out of my third period class today. They are all boys, who were grumbling about their required Government class run by a very unpopular teacher. I told them that the reason they should care about government is because the Marines just had to call up their reserves because not enough people were signing up to fight in Iraq, and now that Bush was talking about attacking Iran, who did they think would be getting drafted into that war?
They all started saying that their mothers had already told them that they were moving to Canada if a draft were installed.
I then told them that if a Recruiter came into our room that they had my permission to leave the room and I would take the consequences for their actions. That it was their right to leave and I would defend it. Some told me they were already getting targetted in the parking lots at school and Movie theatres. 16 and 17 year old boys. It’s appalling.
August 25th, 2006 at 5:50 pmThe U.S. flight from Iraq has been in progress for the last couple of months as the word
i”insurgency” covers for a U.S. defeat. . The departure will accelerate as you here more news of “success” in Iraq.
The U.S. exit from Iraq will make the U.S. departure ( and I am being generous here) from
South Vietnam look like a Boy Scout outing.
Then let’s here the EMPLOYED military personnel comments, not just the retired ones.
August 25th, 2006 at 5:54 pmWell, it’s a good metaphor. Maybe the folks in Nebraska will get it.
August 25th, 2006 at 5:54 pmMy goodness. Henny Penny. Gosh, that’s untidy.
August 25th, 2006 at 5:55 pmWe need more Generals like him. He’s an American hero.
August 25th, 2006 at 5:57 pmThey all started saying that their mothers had already told them that they were moving to Canada if a draft were installed.
Comment by unbelievable — August 25, 2006 @ 5:50 pm
Hey UnB. Thats pretty good.
Keep it up though and we’re going to see you on TV.
The right takes a dim view on teachers who teach truth.
August 25th, 2006 at 5:58 pmWow, now sit back and watch the neocon spin machine go into hyperventilation mode. This should be fun. Time for a bowl of popcorn, let the show begin.
August 25th, 2006 at 5:58 pmcacagallina, breakfast of neoconvicts
August 25th, 2006 at 5:58 pmLast chopper out of Baghdad .. very soon !! Sooner than you think ..
August 25th, 2006 at 5:59 pmChickenhawks and chickenshit - a perfect summary of the Bushpig era.
August 25th, 2006 at 5:59 pmIt will be a very long time, if no forever.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:00 pmI seriously think we should all just shut up while we humor these bozos and allow them to think that they’ve still got our votes. Then on Election Day, EVERYBODY vote for the Democrats, in such numbers that they simply can’t steal the elections again, not all over the country.
The alternative is too frightening. When they sense they’re really losing power we can all expect another 9/11. They know that their necks are all on the line.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:00 pmSo Rumsfeld’s going to be the sacrificial goat and Bush and Cheney are going to walk for their heinous crimes. I should have known as soon as Hillary and Loserman came out for Rummy’s resignation without a word about his masters.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:00 pmWhen Cheney was looking at the INTEL before our occupation of Iraq he was keeping the chicken feces and throwing away the eggs.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:01 pmThis is what Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Emperor Bush have brought to Iraq.
[from: http://www.riverbendblog.blogspot.com/ ]
Residents of Baghdad are systematically being pushed out of the city. Some families are waking up to find a Klashnikov bullet and a letter in an envelope with the words “Leave your area or else.†The culprits behind these attacks and threats are Sadr’s followers- Mahdi Army. It’s general knowledge, although no one dares say it out loud. In the last month we’ve had two different families staying with us in our house, after having to leave their neighborhoods due to death threats and attacks. It’s not just Sunnis- it’s Shia, Arabs, Kurds- most of the middle-class areas are being targeted by militias.
Other areas are being overrun by armed Islamists. The Americans have absolutely no control in these areas.…
During times like these I remember a speech Bush made in 2003: One of the big achievements he claimed was the return of jubilant ‘exiled’ Iraqis to their country after the fall of Saddam. I’d like to see some numbers about the Iraqis currently outside of the country you are occupying… Not to mention internally displaced Iraqis abandoning their homes and cities.
I sometimes wonder if we’ll ever know just how many hundreds of thousands of Iraqis left the country this bleak summer. I wonder how many of them will actually return. Where will they go? What will they do with themselves? Is it time to follow? Is it time to wash our hands of the country and try to find a stable life somewhere else?
Anyone who things Iraqi’s are better off than they were under Saddam is woefully ignorant.
Everyone in the Bush Cabal must be arrested, put on trial, and exiled for what they did to Iraq.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:04 pmSome told me they were already getting targetted in the parking lots at school
I don’t know how they did it, but the high school my daughter goes to, has it so that recruiters may come on campus - but they may not approach ANY of the kids. The kid has to go to them. There is also the OPT OUT form - that takes your kids OFF of the recruiters lists.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:06 pm“I then told them that if a Recruiter came into our room that they had my permission to leave the room and I would take the consequences for their actions. That it was their right to leave and I would defend it. ” unbelievable
August 25th, 2006 at 6:08 pm******SUCH courage in the face of danger……
Meet your new Secretary of Defense, ROCKEY VACCARELLA
August 25th, 2006 at 6:09 pmhttp://www.crooksandliars.com/ 2006/ 08/ 25/ jon-stewart-vs-rockey/ #more-9815
Rummy is an over-the-hill, out-of-touch misguided, misinformed, delusional neocon who’s time is up. Twice he’s volunteered his resignation; twice Dumbo refused. I love the way they continually boast about how they listen to the commanders on the ground…er….um….um….um…Batiste is not the first one to call them incompetents.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:10 pmWe The People of the formerly free from warrantless wiretaps USA get to fund a $3BILLION PER WEEK war that these fools foisted upon us.
I can’t see how NeoCons could possibly believe they’re getting their monies worth.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:10 pmDo you believe this ???”distinguished service award”
Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld will speak Aug. 28 in Reno at the Veterans of Foreign Wars Convention.
Rumsfeld is receiving the VFW’s distinguished service award during a banquet at the Grand Sierra Resort and Casino, formerly the Reno Hilton, headquarters for the organization’s 107th convention.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:13 pmThe right takes a dim view on teachers who teach truth.
Comment by WORFEUS — August 25, 2006 @ 5:58 pm
Fortunately, even the conservatives here are starting to turn their backs on Bush. And one of the students started talking about how he liked to read Bushisms because they are so funny… And he really lives out in the sticks.
If the truth lands me in the gulag, I will still sleep better at night on the dirt floor than Bush ever will in his silk sheets…
August 25th, 2006 at 6:20 pm#4
If the Active Duty Generals said their true mind they wouldn’t be Active Duty nor Generals.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:21 pmCanada better start building a wall to keep out the chicksh!t neo-cons and their chickensh!t little troll, a$$wipe kids that will infiltrate their country when things go bad…
Comment by dixie blood — August 25, 2006 @ 6:03 pm
Hilarious!
Yes, most of these kids’ parents probably voted for Junior in both 2000 and 2004… But they are good kids and also don’t deserve to die in an unjust war by circumstances of birth either…
August 25th, 2006 at 6:24 pmSUCH courage in the face of danger……
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 25, 2006 @ 6:08 pm
How would you know? You’re as yellow as they come.
I keep telling you that you can’t ignore me. Just accept that you’re weak and too emotional to keep your word.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:25 pmMighty A: “SUCH courage in the face of danger”
It takes absolutely no courage to speak for power. That’s what Mighty A and the rest of the Bush cultists do — speak for power. The General didn’t have the right to speak to power when he was on active duty. Now, he’s retired and he can speak to power. That takes courage. Again, speaking for power is not something which even requires courage. And, the people who habitually speak for power are often cowards.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:26 pmI wonder what the Las Vegas odds are that General Batiste will be smeared before Monday?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — August 25, 2006 @ 5:40 pm
Monday??? How about tonight on O’Reilly or H&C?
August 25th, 2006 at 6:28 pm******SUCH courage in the face of danger……
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 25, 2006 @ 6:08 pm
This time I felt pity for you. Its not even funny anymore. Poor soul.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:28 pmThere is also the OPT OUT form - that takes your kids OFF of the recruiters lists.
Comment by madashell — August 25, 2006 @ 6:06 pm
Thanks, I’ll mention that to them on Monday. Until the Bush twins sign up, no one else should either.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:29 pmThird time’s the charm
http://www.sirnosir.com/
Watch the flash on the right side of the page.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:34 pm******SUCH courage in the face of danger……
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 25, 2006 @ 6:08 pm
You know it. Teachers today all across the country are risking everything to speak up and speak out. They risk their jobs, livlihoods, and even their freedom.
I realize you don’t understand the fear of speaking out against an omnipresent federal government, because you’re too busy sucking their butts but one day, maybe even you will understand what it means to say something that you know your government doesn’t want you to say.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:35 pmAnyone notice how Rummy’s recent press conferences are largely comprised of him answering his own questions? On someone half his age, it might be considered to be dicactic; on this old coot, it’s clearly schizophrenic.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:36 pmRonin,
Now that might get me in trouble… I have to walk the line between being truthful about protecting their constitutional rights and being blatantly subversive. I try to make my subversion sugar-coated so it’s not easy to point out. Like how I’m teaching them to question what they think they know - but in the name of impressing an awareness of the structural integrity of their buildings. I’m really teaching them to question it all… because if they do - reality has a liberal bias that is hard to miss :)
August 25th, 2006 at 6:39 pmmaybe even you will understand what it means to say something that you know your government doesn’t want you to say.
Comment by WORFEUS — August 25, 2006 @ 6:35 pm
I suppose we can only dream… :)
You know, it feels a bit like criticizing your boss and hoping you survive… :).
August 25th, 2006 at 6:42 pmSUCH courage in the face of danger……
Comment by mighty aphrodite
I see Randy’s wife, the sockpuppet one, is still running amok.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:44 pmPoor frigid overweight thing.
Sorry, unbelievable, that MAY be a bit over the top for a classroom setting. Just realized it.
And hats off to you for risking literally everything to educate the people that MATTER, the children! Just let these con jawjackers roll right off you, buddy. You’re good people.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:47 pmHere is an interesting story:
MSNBC
Iraqis loot base after British troops leave
August 25, 2006
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14517674/
Then buried in the story (damn liberal media) we see this:
And still the republicans don’t understand where terrorists come from.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:49 pmWow. Rummy’s toast. This guy wouldn’t be coming clean unless it’s already a done deal. Let’s hope some active “generals & majors” will take the cue.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:52 pmthe first neocon who tries to smear this general should get at least one of his stars rectally implanted.
August 25th, 2006 at 6:52 pmThis guy wouldn’t be coming clean unless it’s already a done deal.
Comment by Godfry Daniel — August 25, 2006 @ 6:52 pm
I hope you’re right Godfrey, but keep in mind Batiste has been speaking out for some time now.
Hes said the same things openly on talk shows including Hardball for the last year or so.
August 25th, 2006 at 7:00 pmRet. General hits three network morning shows calling for Rumsfeld’s ouster
RAW STORY
Published: Friday April 14, 2006
Retired Maj. Gen. John Batiste, who led the 1st Infantry Division in Iraq, appeared on the morning talk shows of all three major networks on Friday calling for Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld’s resignation.
August 25th, 2006 at 7:04 pmIts going to be hard to smear Batiste though.
His men love him, he led the 1st infantry division and fought the republican guard as they went into Bagdad, and he tried to convince rumsfeld to let him stay and kill the enemy as they went into Bagdad.
Orders from Bush and Rummy however were to “keep pressing ahead”. So he said they’d hit and run, and we’d keep moving forward, and we knew we were going to have to fight them again.
Batiste just wanted to win. Hes not on our side necessarily. He was for the war originally I think, although he is quiet about his position on that because he feels its not important what he thought about that. But he thinks it IS important how to fight the war, and he says Bush and Rummy did NOT listen to him, and he has called openly for some time now for Rummys resignation.
So smearing him will take some doing, although I’m sure they’ll try.
August 25th, 2006 at 7:11 pmMaj. Gen. John Batiste
August 25th, 2006 at 7:14 pmApril 14, 2006
I’ve heard Batiste is going to join Wesley Clark on the “former Generals who HATE WAR” ticket. After Batiste is awarded the Smedley Butler Medal of Doveness they may be able to carapult to the top of the ticket…. They may be onto something..
August 25th, 2006 at 7:15 pmFrom The Today Show with Katie “Navy Seals are Cool” Couric.
August 25th, 2006 at 7:20 pm#65 That wasn’t worth the energy I had to expend to move my eyes side to side while reading that drivel.
August 25th, 2006 at 7:21 pmWhat the hell difference does it make if Rummy stays or leaves? Does anyone seriously believe that Bush would appoint a more enlightened Secretary of Defense? I suspect they’re going to see what happens in November and if Lieberman loses the Senate race, he could be Rummy’s replacement. BF difference!
August 25th, 2006 at 7:23 pmI really don’t believe MA is a lawyer - but does have ONE attribute - sheer ARROGANCE.
August 25th, 2006 at 7:23 pmAnd hats off to you for risking literally everything to educate the people that MATTER, the children! Just let these con jawjackers roll right off you, buddy. You’re good people.
Comment by Ronin Tetsuro — August 25, 2006 @ 6:47 pm
Thanks Ronin, I only do what I believe is right. And sending children into war simply cannot be tolerated.
I am fortunate to have a female and a black principal. They both are pretty liberal and support us 110%. I can’t ask for better than that, you know?
August 25th, 2006 at 7:26 pmColin Powell’s dreamy thoughts….”Dang, I wish I had Batiste’s ballz.”
August 25th, 2006 at 7:28 pmI’ve heard Batiste is going to join Wesley Clark on the “former Generals who HATE WAR†ticket. After Batiste is awarded the Smedley Butler Medal of Doveness they may be able to carapult to the top of the ticket…. They may be onto something..
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 25, 2006 @ 7:15 pm
Wow. I thought even MA was above that.
Guess not.
So now we have a spoiled little security mom sitting safely at home on her bony right wing ass, calling the man who led the Big Red One in combat, a coward.
I’d love to see her say that to his troops.
August 25th, 2006 at 7:29 pmMighty Chicken Feces… How apropos!
August 25th, 2006 at 7:31 pmFrom The Today Show with Katie “Navy Seals are Cool†Couric. - - I believe the newly crowned Anchor Astray’s quote was, “Navy Seals rock!!”
August 25th, 2006 at 7:31 pmLets see what the President architect of the war thought of Maj General John Batiste.
Paul Wolfowitz
August 25th, 2006 at 7:32 pmWurzburg, Germany
January 31, 2004.
Paul Wolfowitz
August 25th, 2006 at 7:37 pmWurzburg, Germany
January 31, 2004.
Ouch!
August 25th, 2006 at 7:38 pmGo on Mighty Ann Coulterite.
Call him a coward, call him a traitor.
He led the Big Red One in combat, helped fight the war you promote, but now, because he calls for more troops, hes a coward and a traitor according to you.
Well you know what Berlin Betty?
You’re the coward.
And you’re the traitor.
August 25th, 2006 at 7:41 pmOT - little by little….
EPA’s Pesticide Streamlining Rejected
A judge says the Bush administration may not skip review of the chemicals’ impact on endangered species.
Ruling that the Bush administration “plainly violated” the Endangered Species Act, a federal judge overturned a regulation Thursday that streamlined approval of pesticides by eliminating reviews by wildlife officials responsible for protecting rare animals and plants.
August 25th, 2006 at 7:44 pmcan someone please explain to me why the neoCONS are hell bent on destroying the planet and its inhabitants?
August 25th, 2006 at 7:46 pmmighty aphrodite - what a shitball - go away
August 25th, 2006 at 7:48 pmWhat’s important to remember is that Rummy is as instrumental to this administration as Cheney is.
w did not choose Rummy. Cheney and Rummy chose w.
Remember the machinations between Rummy and Cheney in the Ford white house to send Bush Sr to the CIA to get them out of their hair? Rummy is as big a player as Cheney in all this
August 25th, 2006 at 7:52 pmWell that’s nit picking isn’t it?
August 25th, 2006 at 7:56 pm#65 - starting the smear already…..
August 25th, 2006 at 7:57 pmSorry to say, Rumsfeld gave America a bowl of chicken crap and we are all tying to keep from eating it. He’s on the highway to hell.
August 25th, 2006 at 8:02 pmHas it occured to anyone that it really does not matter
August 25th, 2006 at 8:19 pmwhat we think? We are powerless to change what Bush and company want to do and will do. Our ability to write about it only calms people down but changes nothing.
The VFW better reconsider any awards for the cabal. This is one vet that will look upon this in a very negative way.
August 25th, 2006 at 8:21 pmAwards are not deserved for any in this administration.
Plain and simple!
Wrong once again. These generals are against the illegal Iraq occupation. They aren’t against war. Just like Democrats aren’t against fighting terror, they just think it should be done legally. You call yourself a lawyer and you don’t know the difference between legal and illegal. That is why everybody here thinks you are a joke. A worthless twit.
August 25th, 2006 at 8:26 pm#83 Mad
I can’t tell you why but I can show you evidence that you are right on. They just managed to reduce our solar system by some 13%. Their plan is to start on the outside and work in. But it won’t work! Until they pluck that little sucker out of space, gring him up and fertilize the cacti in my back yard, Pluto will always be my favorite Planet. VIVA PLUTO! Down with the Neocons!
August 25th, 2006 at 8:28 pmHe may have served up the chicken feces, but the military certainly licked the bowl clean. Then they shat on anyone who may have argued that it was chicken feces. It’s partly the senior brass’ own fault (Tommy Franks and the like) for being stuck in ‘eye-raq’.
August 25th, 2006 at 8:37 pmHonor and dignity were restored to the office of the president, right? Just like Bush promised?
Just checking.
August 25th, 2006 at 8:53 pm“Has it occured to anyone that it really does not matter
what we think? We are powerless to change what Bush and company want to do and will do. Our ability to write about it only calms people down but changes nothing.”
Shall we storm the bastille?
August 25th, 2006 at 8:54 pmHas it occured to anyone that it really does not matter
what we think? We are powerless to change what Bush and company want to do and will do. Our ability to write about it only calms people down but changes nothing.
Comment by phil — August 25, 2006 @ 8:19 pm
I’m always up for a fresh re-frame on any given situation.
August 25th, 2006 at 8:56 pm#65 I’ve heard Batiste is going to join Wesley Clark on the “former Generals who HATE WAR†ticket. After Batiste is awarded the Smedley Butler Medal of Doveness they may be able to carapult to the top of the ticket…. They may be onto something..
Comment by mighty aphrodite — August 25, 2006 @ 7:15 pm
MA, how ’bout reading this , then post as fact-based a rebuttal to Gen. Butler’s own words as he had the wisdom to offer even talkers like yourself. I’m not holding my breath for you. By the way, Marines like Buter, or Zinni, or my father, aren’t overly dovish by nature. They’re just unlike you in one important sense: they’ve put their lives in danger for the country in more ways than most service members, and I’m betting people like you, could ever imagine. That gives them something you look to be in desparate need of — credibility.
August 25th, 2006 at 9:04 pmIt is ironic to hear her call a General “against war” Spudge.
Seems like kind of an oxymoron.
August 25th, 2006 at 9:04 pmDemocracy? WAKE UP AMERICA!
August 25th, 2006 at 9:04 pmPLUTOCRACY>DEMOCRACY=FRAUD
Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively. And if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past.-Richard M. Nixon.
Well, Mighty Moron, you will NEVER escape this pile of bs until you fess up. I do believe that you may have “graduated” from the acme correspondence law school. but One can see that you faked it and never got past the 3rd grade in real life.
August 25th, 2006 at 9:20 pmI am still in shock about where we started and where we are today. You know, its not just the situation in Iraq—look around: The social-economic divide is stronger than ever (middle class fading away faster than Bush’s approval rating), healthcare (or more appropriately “Sick Care”) simply sucks, the “foundation” jobs being exported, over 60% of people of retirement age cannot afford to retire, record home owners have so much debt they risk losing their homes…on and on. You can say what you want, but do you remember the time when we had one of the biggest budget surpluses in history (Clinton administration). This is going to get alot worse folks–you think you are safe because you are financially OK? This is something that will affect all of us for years to come. Turn off the brainwashing TV Media, get off the couch and get active–we are in a fight for our country–we need to take it back from the powerful and greedy corporations who are polluting the world and in the business of modern enslavement.
August 25th, 2006 at 9:22 pmI’ll never be able to look at a bowl of chicken salad the same way again.
August 25th, 2006 at 9:29 pmIraq is a failed Bush policy and as November approaches, GOP candidates WILL be watching the polls that say most Americans do not approve of what’s going on in Iraq. GOP candidates have a tough balancing act speaking out againstt he failed Iraq policy while groveling to Karl Rove for money. Basically an unprincipled lot they are.
August 25th, 2006 at 9:37 pmDoes anyone have an idea for a strategy to get out of Iraq?
August 25th, 2006 at 9:37 pmThat explains why this war keeps leaving a bad taste in my mouth.
August 25th, 2006 at 9:39 pmDamn, I’m hungry now.
August 25th, 2006 at 9:45 pm#106 - yeah, Representative John Murtha has a plan on how to get out of Iraq.
I think that Cheney, Bush, and Haliburton and the Oil Companies should pay back the federal deficit. After all, they are responsible for this deficit. This is where Libertarians and I agree. After that, we part ways (which the exception of the invasion of Iraq).
August 25th, 2006 at 9:52 pmDoes anyone have an idea for a strategy to get out of Iraq?
Comment by combatvet — August 25, 2006 @ 9:37 pm
Sure.
They call it the Murtha plan (but in all fairness I posted this idea in TP long before Jack Murtha came out with it:).
The idea is so simple, I am sure many people have thought of it independently.
Redeploy the troops out of Iraq, to surrounding regions, like Bahrain and Kuwait. Have quick response strike teams (air assault and deploy troops by chopper) ready to go 24 by 7, to assist the Iraqi army and police with quelling an uprising, but for the most part, stay the hell away.
This will encourage UN peacekeepers to come in and assist at the Iraqi’s request as well, and possibly bolster their police and military forces.
This will also permit the Iraqi people to govern themselves, and a funny thing happens when you let people govern themselves.
They figure shit out.
Also it allows them to come to grips with what it is THEY want, not us. If it turns out that it doesn’t work, and they just keep fighting (which is why we should’ve stayed the hell out in the first place)and people keep dying, then we’ll need to shift to plan B.
Plan B is also pretty simple.
Divide the nation up into seperate states, and have another sectarian division in the middle east like Israel and Palestine. UN and US peacekeepers will need to guard the borders until something can be worked out. Course Plan B is not optimal but then again thats why its plan B, not to mention another good reason for keeping the hell out of there in the first place.
August 25th, 2006 at 9:52 pm#101 Dr. Crowley
After reading my Comment #93 how could you dare to belittle my favorite Planet. Pluto is Pluto and Walt Disney was borderline is using the name. But you, Sir, want to say my Pluto is crazy is beyond the pale! I know you tried to hide the fact by spelling it differently but it didn’t work.
Now, if your formula read Democracy
August 25th, 2006 at 9:55 pmRemember, the Iraqi army is larger than the current US occupying force.
And these people grew up in war, and shooting guns.
If they’re not ready to defend themselves now it has NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING to do with their combat readiness.
It has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that they ARE the insurgency.
August 25th, 2006 at 9:57 pmKarl Rove’s nickname: Turd Blossom
August 25th, 2006 at 9:57 pmDonald Rumsfeld’s new nickname: Chicken Feces
George W’s nickname? I dunno. Coprolite-In-Chief? President Poo?
#106
Here is my strategy!
Troops! Attention! Right (as in correct) Face! To Home! March!
August 25th, 2006 at 9:58 pmDon’t want to be an American Chickenshit.
-Donald “Rummy” Rumsfeld
August 25th, 2006 at 10:00 pmCount! Cadence, Count!
We have a leader who’s name is Bush!
We don’t care ’cause he’s just a douche!
Sound Off!
August 25th, 2006 at 10:02 pmI don’t know what we’ve been sold. The Republicans really aren’t so bold.
Ann Coulter needs to be saved by Hannity.
The nation now knows that Bush is a calamity.
Sound off, one two!
-GSD
August 25th, 2006 at 10:04 pmQuote from comment #3: “Can Dubya’s incompetence get any worse? Fire Rumsfeld!”
Yes it sure CAN! If you think things are bad now just wait until bushy boy and his neocom idiots take on Iran!
August 25th, 2006 at 10:07 pmNote to parents of 18 year old’s and older: Your kids will shortly become “cannon fodder” for the neocon’s next adventure! Renewal of the draft can’t be far away since bushy boy has already used up our military!
[…] Chicken sqaut, indeed. […]
August 25th, 2006 at 10:10 pmOnr Two!
Sound Off!
Three, Four!
Bring it oin down!
One, Two, Three, Four!
One, Two!
Three, Four!
We got a boss who’s name is Rummy!
We doin’t care , he is just a dummy!
Chorus!
We got a boss whose name is Dick!
We don’t care ’cause he’s just a prick!
Chorus!
We got a boss who’s name is Condo!
We don’t care ’cause we use Bondo!
Chorus!
We got a boss who’s name is TurdBlossom!
Hell with it, we quit!
That’s all folks!
August 25th, 2006 at 10:12 pm# 106 The right strategy:
August 25th, 2006 at 10:12 pmUS gets the hell out of Iraq. Stop sucking Iraq´s oil. Drill the same amount of oil in US territory to compensate Iraq for all the illegal extraction. US pays for all the damages to Iraq infrastructure and industriy. For every dead iraqi civilian, US mourns as if they were american soldiers. US digs a hole and spends a hundred years not polluting, not invading, not supporting terrorists, not dumping, not asking III world countries to engage free-market, and not spreading democracy anymore. Hows that? Tough? Well…from this side of the world is called justice.
Karl Rove’s nickname: Turd Blossom
Donald Rumsfeld’s new nickname: Chicken Feces
George W’s nickname? I dunno. Coprolite-In-Chief? President Poo?
Read today on Huffinton that he is a bed wetter. So his name is president Pee Pee. Let’s all send him Pee Pee Teepee’s at Christmas to help with his bed wetting problems. They are for babies, but I read that his pecker is wee wee so this little hats should fit.
August 25th, 2006 at 10:13 pmI was referring to frat boy in comment 126.
August 25th, 2006 at 10:14 pmDamn GSD,
You out marched me!
Good job, Sir!
Don’t call me Sir, my parents were married.
August 25th, 2006 at 10:16 pm#125
How do you know it is Third grade Level? Yo Momma told me you flunked Potty Training and coulkdn’t get into preschool!
August 25th, 2006 at 10:19 pm#111
The end should read Democracy
August 25th, 2006 at 10:21 pm#135, #111, #101
To hell with it! I quit!
I apologize Doctor Crowley, you are right.
August 25th, 2006 at 10:26 pmCoffins is female. I posted the link to honor your request. You asked for a picture.
Are you still a bed wetter? Is that why you don’t find my joke funny and feel a need to attack me?
If that’s the case, then, I’ll keep your problem a secret.
August 25th, 2006 at 10:28 pmGen. John Batiste (ret.) claims Rumsfeld served up our military “a huge bowl of chicken feces,” the president likes to refer to Karl Rove as “turd blossom,” and according to published reports this week, Mr. Bush is fond of flatulence in all forms. Forget Camus, W. can combine cornpone comedy and classical writing with, “John Paul Sartre is a Fartre.”
August 25th, 2006 at 10:31 pm#136,
WTF yo talkin’ ’bout, Boy. Yo Momma done told me you was the one that said: “Momma, just call me Pee Pee ’cause I’m all your’n.”
August 25th, 2006 at 10:33 pmBadmoodman - see you get, “turd blossom”, “chicken feces”, “farting frat boy”, and add to that “bed wetting frat boy”. Children… all of them… and these are the people running our government.
Jesus was a Liberal, persecuted by Conservatives. Amen
August 25th, 2006 at 10:35 pmYou said it dixie blood!I served in the Navy while Skippy Peanut butter cowered in the White House when Iran held American citizens as hostages. If he had acted then, I think the middle east would be much different now. Anyway, young adults are cowards. Both my daughters volunteered for the Army National Guard. Neither have had to go to the middle east yet but they realize they might.
August 25th, 2006 at 10:37 pmalfterglow - I hope that your daughters don’t return in coffins draped with flags. There’s way too many of these coffins returning and Bush wants more troops in Iraq and he’s staying the course… the course to hell.
August 25th, 2006 at 10:44 pmThe reality is Bush and his treasonous scumbag friends deserve a firing squad. This is biggest crime ever committed by the U.S. government on it’s own people. Bigger than Vietnam, because the cost and consequences of this imperial war will dwarf that conflict.
Funny, I had an interesting thought. I think the 21st century will be about the rest of the world fighting to overthrow the post-WWII power structure (UN Security Council) of those nations really in charge (actually corperations are in charge, but every business needs political friends). It’s already happening: Lebanon, Iraq, Venezuela, Brazil, Iran………These people want freedom. True Freedom. Not American corporate bitch freedom.
So what is the symbol of this true freedom?
“Of all the weapons in the vast Soviet arsenal, nothing was more profitable than the Avtomat Kalishnakova Model of 1947 a.k.a more commonly known as the AK-47 or Kalishnakov. It’s the world’s most popular assualt rifle. A weapon all fighters love. An elegantly simple 9-pound amalgamation of forged steel and plywood. It doesen’t break, jam, or overheat. It will shoot whether it’s covered in mud or filled with sand. It’s so easy, even a child can use it…….and they do.”
August 25th, 2006 at 10:45 pmCan we start throwing Iran-Contra criminals in jail now?
August 25th, 2006 at 10:49 pmI did, just beat him and he doesn’t know it yet.
Comment by Coffins draped with flags — August 25, 2006 @ 10:46 pm
I meant with a stick.
;)
August 25th, 2006 at 10:49 pmGen Batiste knows what he’s up against, but it needs to be said. Good job General.
August 25th, 2006 at 10:50 pmI want to know what post #5 meant by:
>Remember, folks, Rummy and the rest only look incompetent if you judge their actions against their stated goals. If you consider their actions in the light of their actual goals, they’re right on track.
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Are Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield purposely trying to destroy our military strength? It sure seems like it by the way they treat soldiers with inadequate equipment, decreasing va benefits, multiple tours of duty, etc.
Are they trying to destroy our democracy? It certainly seems like it with their warrantless spying, steeling of elections, Patriot Act, etc.
Do they want us to go bankrupt and have countries like China and Dubai take over? It certainly seems like it when they continuously borrow billions and then waste billlions on no bid contracts and incompetent fraud and also want to trust foreigners to keep our ports/weapon manufacturing plants secure.
Do they want another 9/11? Sure seems like it by not securing the borders, ports, chemical plants, etc.
Do they want Americans to be destitute, by outsourcing good jobs, making health care unavailable for many and try to eliminate social security?
Look at katrina…..how could the administration not know what was happening for five days when the rest of the world knew right away? I just don’t buy that Bush was unaware.
I have doubted all along that the Bush cabal is incompetent. I have long wondered what their true goals are? Do they honestly have Americans’ interests at heart?
August 25th, 2006 at 10:56 pmOk, smoke a joint. I know they did that in Nam.
August 25th, 2006 at 10:57 pmLPAC - good work. Do you think these “pissed” off people will vote Democratic in November? Did you get any sense of how they were planning on voting?
Vote for a different direction - vote Democratic.
August 25th, 2006 at 10:59 pmNope. No arguement. You ARE an Asshole.
Comment by trueblue
No argument here.
August 25th, 2006 at 10:59 pmWhy, Juan,
August 25th, 2006 at 11:00 pmI’m blushing!!!
trueblue - recess was over so it was time to make peace and get back to work :) Thanks for the compliment.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:00 pmWhy, Juan,
I’m blushing!!!
Comment by trueblue
Geez…
August 25th, 2006 at 11:01 pmComment by Zoo Jr
Hi, baby.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:07 pmAnd Worfeus,
August 25th, 2006 at 11:07 pmYou are also a better person than I, because after a couple of times being referred to as”Worthless” instead of “Worfeus”, I’d be thinking, “Asshole!”
Love to argue with you Audi, I’m just not sure you play nice.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:08 pmHi, mama.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:08 pmZooey,
August 25th, 2006 at 11:08 pmI’m going to cry.
That’s so sweet.
Believe me I’ve been called worse.
:O
August 25th, 2006 at 11:08 pmIt’s a sad state of affairs that these Generals need to wait until they retire to speak up. They serve many years, something like 30 years, so that they can qualify for their retirement pension. If they speak up against this war in Iraq while before their retirement, they risk losing everything. That’s how the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rove/Libby cabal operate. I’ve added Scooter’s name because of his direct involvement with outing a CIA agent. That’s treason.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:09 pmThat’s so sweet.
Comment by trueblue
My baby’s been lurking, and has finally surfaced. :)
August 25th, 2006 at 11:10 pmSuddenly, it became alive this thread.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:10 pmJust like him to surface on a Chicken Shit thread…
August 25th, 2006 at 11:10 pmHi Juan!
Juan, meet my baby, Zoo Jr.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:11 pmZoo, Jr!
Hi!
Your mom is Awesome!
August 25th, 2006 at 11:11 pmHave a great time in college.
Never mind as an Army man its the first thing you’d think of.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:12 pmZooey and zooey Jr. Wow - the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Welcome, young man. It can be rough going here at times. I’m sure Zooey has provided you with the proper tools to manage in life.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:13 pmHi, mama.
Comment by Zoo Jr — August 25, 2006 @ 11:08 pm
Ha! This is cool. :)
August 25th, 2006 at 11:13 pmThank you, trueblue. I guess it will be good.
My mom just left me.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:14 pmMy mom just left me.
Comment by Zoo Jr
Don’t even think of pulling that crap, Jr.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:15 pmJuan, meet my baby, Zoo Jr.
Comment by Zooey — August 25, 2006 @ 11:11 pm
Hello, Zoo Jr. How are things there?
August 25th, 2006 at 11:16 pmZoo Jr - are you in college now?
Zooey - empty nest??? (:
August 25th, 2006 at 11:17 pm11F ?
Intelligence?
August 25th, 2006 at 11:18 pmThank You, Zooey!!
I couldn’t respond!
I was thinking, “Ohhh…”
and
“Wait a minute. Emotional blackmail runs in this family!”
all at the same time!!!!!
He’s good.
Apple and tree, indeed!
August 25th, 2006 at 11:18 pmZooey - empty nest??? (:
Comment by Coffins draped with flags
Yes, first time ever. It will take a little getting used to, I think.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:19 pmInfantry Ops?
August 25th, 2006 at 11:19 pmPeace - and goodnight… catch you all later.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:19 pmOk Major Dan.
That works for me.
I’ll give you the “non-asshole” vote for now and just classify you as shell shocked.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:20 pmDon’t even think of pulling that crap, Jr.
Comment by Zooey — August 25, 2006 @ 11:15 pm
He! Exactly like my mom. :)
August 25th, 2006 at 11:20 pmBye. Thanks for being nice. Except for you, mama.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:21 pmHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Worfeus,
He would have responded to your first request if he had actually been there.
That’s one thing I’ve learned about military men.
He did have to look it up.
Forget him, is my two cents.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:21 pmThat Zoo Jr. is a spitfire, ain’t he, Zooey?!!?
August 25th, 2006 at 11:22 pmGoodnight, baby.
Oh, that money I gave your before I left? It’s counterfeit.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:22 pmExcept for you, mama.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Comment by Zoo Jr — August 25, 2006 @ 11:21 pm
haha! And that would be me talking to my mom. Incredible.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:23 pmThat Zoo Jr. is a spitfire, ain’t he, Zooey?!!?
Comment by trueblue
I think I may have had an effect on him…
August 25th, 2006 at 11:24 pmYou may be right my truthful friend, you may be right.
But perchance I disrespect a mans actual service to his country I must concede the benefit of the doubt for now. But I shall watch this one closley. I come from a military family. My father, brothers, gramps, uncles, everyone served. Everyone but me. So his taunts as to my non service are nothing to me, hes got nothing on the folks.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:24 pmhaha! And that would be me talking to my mom. Incredible.
Comment by Juan C
Just don’t ever call me, mama, ok? Because I would have to come after you.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:25 pm11F is Infantry Operations And Intelligence Specialist.
If hes faking at least he knows his stuff. This is a valid Viet Nam era MOS.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:30 pmBecause I would have to come after you.
Comment by Zooey — August 25, 2006 @ 11:25 pm
I didnt see the :) So I guess that upset you.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:31 pmI was talking about me and my mom. Sorry if I offended you.
If hes faking at least he knows his stuff. This is a valid Viet Nam era MOS.
Comment by WORFEUS
Or he knows how to Google…
August 25th, 2006 at 11:32 pmHEY JUAN!!
:-)
August 25th, 2006 at 11:33 pmZooey you’re a rock.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:33 pm:o
August 25th, 2006 at 11:34 pm:-)
Comment by Zooey — August 25, 2006 @ 11:33 pm
Got it. :)
August 25th, 2006 at 11:35 pmIm like a TV made of bulbs…slow. :)
Zooey you’re a rock.
Comment by WORFEUS
Look who’s talking… :)
August 25th, 2006 at 11:35 pmIm like a TV made of bulbs…slow. :)
Comment by Juan C
But once you warm up — Wow!
August 25th, 2006 at 11:38 pmWell said, Disposable Heroes.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:39 pmDisposable Heroes,
From my experience, I think you are spot on.
I know several people currently deployed.
The one who campaigned for the GOP (vigorously) is the only one NOT in Iraq at the moment.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:43 pmCoincidence?
I’d just like to mention that active duty officers cannot question orders or publicly speak out against them. That’s just the military rules… from what I remember.
So if you’re wondering why only Ret. military leaders are speaking up, that’s why. I’m sure most believe this “war” is a mess. That’s why it would help if Rummy was removed. Someone with some sense could take over. It couldn’t get worse.
Pray for the troops… and pray that the NeoCons don’t swiftboat anyone that speaks from their hearts.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:44 pmThats true Steve, however technically if a General truly believes his CIF is criminally negligent, hes supposed to resign.
Thats what Batiste did, and now they wanna criticize him for doing what he was supposed to do.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:46 pmI’d just like to mention that active duty officers cannot question orders or publicly speak out against them.
Comment by Steve-O — August 25, 2006 @ 11:44 pm
Ok. But what about Lt. Watada? The real problem is we think the forces as a sacres, untouchable, made by god, structure. And it is not. The forces are made of people and people can think.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:48 pmtrue,
You’re probably right. Fortunately it’s easy to ignore crackers.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:49 pmWorfeus, Steve,
What if they ALL resigned?
That would be a great statement.
I suppose I’m just wishing, though… but it would be great!
August 25th, 2006 at 11:51 pmFolks, go easy on him.
I think hes cracking up or something. Talking to himself and all.
Hey Lt Dan? Can we call someone for you?
How ya doin over there..?
August 25th, 2006 at 11:52 pmRacist? You just can’t take the truth from a fine black woman like me.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:52 pmZooey? You’re a black woman?
ooooh baby….
August 25th, 2006 at 11:53 pmBut you’re welcome.
:P
August 25th, 2006 at 11:56 pmZooey? You’re a black woman?
ooooh baby….
Comment by WORFEUS
Hmmm, that got a nice reaction! Actually I’m a pasty white rice cake from Crackastan. That’s how I know ‘em when I see ‘em.
August 26th, 2006 at 12:00 amWorfeus likes do women. Black women are nice. White women nice too. Asian ladies very nice too.
So are Poles, Czechs, Frauliens, Latin Ladies, and hold on, I’ll think of some more.
Like I said earlier, I’m just in this to get the nuts out and someone capable of tying his shoes back at the helm. When thats done, its back to my den of debauchery and drunkeness, and maybe a little rock climbing in between.
August 26th, 2006 at 12:03 amWORFEUS,
Oh my. *fanning face*
I promise to spread the word…
August 26th, 2006 at 12:07 amGood Grief, get this guy a DIKSHUNAIRY!
August 26th, 2006 at 12:08 amSo, Zoo…you are black, but you hate to dance? Whats going on? :)
August 26th, 2006 at 12:08 amKarl Rove for new Sec of Defense!
August 26th, 2006 at 12:13 amWhat about Dr Strangelove?