Comments on: Rep. Shays (R-CT): To Succeed In Iraq, We Need A Timetable For Withdrawal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:28:04 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Think Progress » Rep. Shays, Who Supported Withdrawal Before Election, Now Backs Escalation http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-1753594 Think Progress » Rep. Shays, Who Supported Withdrawal Before Election, Now Backs Escalation Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:07:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-1753594 [...] seat to anti-war challenger Diane Farrell (D), Rep. Chris Shays (R-CT) suddenly announced that he supported setting a timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. Shays won the race by 3 [...] [...] seat to anti-war challenger Diane Farrell (D), Rep. Chris Shays (R-CT) suddenly announced that he supported setting a timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq. Shays won the race by 3 [...]

]]> By: Think Progress » Mehlman Falsely Claims Rep. Shays (R-CT) Doesn’t Support Military Timeline For Iraq http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-765312 Think Progress » Mehlman Falsely Claims Rep. Shays (R-CT) Doesn’t Support Military Timeline For Iraq Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:22:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-765312 [...] Mehlman was asked if his rhetoric applied to fellow conservative Rep. Christopher Shays (R-CT), who recently announced his support for his timeline. Mehlman said he “saw him interviewed on this show, Chris Shays, and he, in fact, said something very different…he did not say there ought to be a military timeline.” [...] [...] Mehlman was asked if his rhetoric applied to fellow conservative Rep. Christopher Shays (R-CT), who recently announced his support for his timeline. Mehlman said he “saw him interviewed on this show, Chris Shays, and he, in fact, said something very different…he did not say there ought to be a military timeline.” [...]

]]> By: WC http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-758220 WC Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:22:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-758220 What does Joe say about this? From crooksandliars.com: <blockquote>So, when Democrat Ned Lamont says we need to start a timetable for withdrawal, Lieberman says that would be a victory for terrorists. When Democrats in the Senate put that up for a vote, Joe leads off the debate on the side of… the Republicans. But when Republican Chris Shays says we need a timetable then Lieberman says… Sen. Joe Lieberman, the three-term Democrat whose independent campaign for re-election is being seen as a referendum on the Iraq war, said Friday he would consider taking a look at a fellow lawmaker’s proposal for a time-line for troop withdrawals.</blockquote> Classic. Just...classic. What does Joe say about this? From crooksandliars.com:

So, when Democrat Ned Lamont says we need to start a timetable for withdrawal, Lieberman says that would be a victory for terrorists. When Democrats in the Senate put that up for a vote, Joe leads off the debate on the side of… the Republicans. But when Republican Chris Shays says we need a timetable then Lieberman says…

Sen. Joe Lieberman, the three-term Democrat whose independent campaign for re-election is being seen as a referendum on the Iraq war, said Friday he would consider taking a look at a fellow lawmaker’s proposal for a time-line for troop withdrawals.

Classic. Just…classic.

]]> By: Tobey Tall http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-758094 Tobey Tall Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:43:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-758094 American deaths in Iraq, Afghan wars approach 9/11 toll LIES LIES LIES America Civillian contractors in this Statement dont count otherwise a lot more killed than 9/11 2,973 victims killed in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. 2622 American troops killed in Iraq 333 American troops killed in Afghanistan 237 America civilian contractors killed in Iraq = 3192 Total Americans Killed ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 230 Coalition troops killed in Iraq 112 Coalition troops killed in Afghanistan 211 Coalition civilian contractors killed in Iraq American deaths in Iraq, Afghan wars approach 9/11 toll LIES LIES LIES America Civillian contractors in this Statement dont count otherwise a lot more killed than 9/11

2,973 victims killed in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

2622 American troops killed in Iraq
333 American troops killed in Afghanistan
237 America civilian contractors killed in Iraq
= 3192 Total Americans Killed
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

230 Coalition troops killed in Iraq
112 Coalition troops killed in Afghanistan
211 Coalition civilian contractors killed in Iraq

]]> By: Right Voices » » Why Should Joe Back Other Candidates? http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-755905 Right Voices » » Why Should Joe Back Other Candidates? Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:15:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-755905 [...] Pachacutec / Firedoglake: Who Will Be First to Call for Joe’s Official Expulsion? Mark Pazniokas / Hartford Courant: Joe Down Low On Ballot Judd / Think Progress: Rep. Shays (R-CT): To Succeed In Iraq, We Need A Timetable For Withdrawal Steve Soto / The Left Coaster: Afternoon Quick Hits - Another Shot At Hillary From A 90’s Mudslinger Chris Bowers / MyDD: CT-Sen: Lieberman refuses to back Democratic candidates Ron Beasley / Middle Earth Journal: If this isn’t enough…… Tparty / LamontBlog: Lieberman To Campaign With Rob Simmons (R) Today spazeboy: Lamont Acts Blue, Lieberman Acts Republican [...] [...] Pachacutec / Firedoglake: Who Will Be First to Call for Joe’s Official Expulsion? Mark Pazniokas / Hartford Courant: Joe Down Low On Ballot Judd / Think Progress: Rep. Shays (R-CT): To Succeed In Iraq, We Need A Timetable For Withdrawal Steve Soto / The Left Coaster: Afternoon Quick Hits – Another Shot At Hillary From A 90’s Mudslinger Chris Bowers / MyDD: CT-Sen: Lieberman refuses to back Democratic candidates Ron Beasley / Middle Earth Journal: If this isn’t enough…… Tparty / LamontBlog: Lieberman To Campaign With Rob Simmons (R) Today spazeboy: Lamont Acts Blue, Lieberman Acts Republican [...]

]]> By: cognitorex http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-754249 cognitorex Sat, 26 Aug 2006 04:46:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-754249 <strong>A US BACKED IRAQI GOVERNMENT IS AN OXYMORON </strong> The Iraqis need to have a sense of nation, of nationalism, to form a lasting government. A US backed government is anathematical to the good Iraqi souls who just demonstrated openly in favor of Hezbollah. Loosely paraphrased Murtha’s message is: “We are the enemy: we are the problem: they’re shooting at us and those perceived to be our lackeys.” Tis time to go. A US backed Iraqi government, acceptable to an Iraqi nation, is an oxymoron. Completing the mission is up to the Iraqis: praise Allah and good luck: “what can we do to help?” A US BACKED IRAQI GOVERNMENT IS AN OXYMORON
The Iraqis need to have a sense of nation, of nationalism, to form a lasting government. A US backed government is anathematical to the good Iraqi souls who just demonstrated openly in favor of Hezbollah.
Loosely paraphrased Murtha’s message is: “We are the enemy: we are the problem: they’re shooting at us and those perceived to be our lackeys.”
Tis time to go.
A US backed Iraqi government, acceptable to an Iraqi nation, is an oxymoron. Completing the mission is up to the Iraqis: praise Allah and good luck: “what can we do to help?”

]]> By: cognitorex http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-754241 cognitorex Sat, 26 Aug 2006 04:37:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-754241 <strong>NUKES FOR PEACE?</strong> My sense is that mankind is approaching a collective epiphany, such as: is there no one in the cockpit of the good ship America that ever, ever, ever contemplates setting a course for peace. Do we bomb Iran? Do we use nukes? Should we take out Syria? Are there no course maps, no policies available that don’t engender hate, fear and the ‘rule of brutality.’ We need to bear arms and defend ourselves but if the radar has no reading for a someday world of peace we will not get there. Consider that the US will not hold discussions at any level with Iran or Syria. In a world where a cell phone and a cup of liquid can cause untold horror who in their right mind thinks destroying sovereign nations who already detest us is best for making the world safer? It seems plain nuts. Somebody needs to tell Kristol and Cheney to shut their yaps for at least a few minutes each day to see if there is not some alternative to incinerating a goodly chunk of humanity in the name of self defense. Not to be all Buddhist like, but there simply has to be some middle road short of ‘War-mageddon.’ NUKES FOR PEACE?

My sense is that mankind is approaching a collective epiphany, such as: is there no one in the cockpit of the good ship America that ever, ever, ever contemplates setting a course for peace.
Do we bomb Iran? Do we use nukes? Should we take out Syria? Are there no course maps, no policies available that don’t engender hate, fear and the ‘rule of brutality.’
We need to bear arms and defend ourselves but if the radar has no reading for a someday world of peace we will not get there.
Consider that the US will not hold discussions at any level with Iran or Syria. In a world where a cell phone and a cup of liquid can cause untold horror who in their right mind thinks destroying sovereign nations who already detest us is best for making the world safer? It seems plain nuts.
Somebody needs to tell Kristol and Cheney to shut their yaps for at least a few minutes each day to see if there is not some alternative to incinerating a goodly chunk of humanity in the name of self defense.
Not to be all Buddhist like, but there simply has to be some middle road short of ‘War-mageddon.’

]]> By: Simpsonite http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-753845 Simpsonite Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:24:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-753845 Yep, this was Murtha's idea a long time ago. Yep, this was Murtha’s idea a long time ago.

]]> By: Simpsonite http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-753843 Simpsonite Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:22:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-753843 Whatya know. A republican with a plan and a conscience. He must be worried about losing his seat to a Dem so he's going to distance himself from the neocons as best he can. Good luck Mr Shays. Whatya know. A republican with a plan and a conscience. He must be worried about losing his seat to a Dem so he’s going to distance himself from the neocons as best he can. Good luck Mr Shays.

]]> By: Rep. Shays (R-CT): To Succeed In Iraq, We Need A Timetable For Withdrawal - Volconvo Debate Forums http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-753417 Rep. Shays (R-CT): To Succeed In Iraq, We Need A Timetable For Withdrawal - Volconvo Debate Forums Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:00:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-753417 [...] Rep. Shays (R-CT): To Succeed In Iraq, We Need A Timetable For Withdrawal Rep. Shays (R-CT): To Succeed In Iraq, We Need A Timetable For Withdrawal Quote: [...] [...] Rep. Shays (R-CT): To Succeed In Iraq, We Need A Timetable For Withdrawal Rep. Shays (R-CT): To Succeed In Iraq, We Need A Timetable For Withdrawal Quote: [...]

]]> By: Jebus loves me http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-753258 Jebus loves me Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:09:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-753258 Gotta love F**ks and Friends. I love how she was trying to put words in his mouth, and how she attacked him, for being a traitor to the republican cause. Gotta love F**ks and Friends.

I love how she was trying to put words in his mouth, and how she attacked him, for being a traitor to the republican cause.

]]> By: Joe Sixpack http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-753240 Joe Sixpack Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:58:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-753240 <em>Glad to see people are coming around to Murtha’s original plan. </em> Comment by Five of Diamonds Hummh. Now there is some real food for thought. Glad to see people are coming around to Murtha’s original plan.
Comment by Five of Diamonds

Hummh. Now there is some real food for thought.

]]> By: Five of Diamonds http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-753230 Five of Diamonds Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:53:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-753230 Glad to see people are coming around to Murtha's original plan. Glad to see people are coming around to Murtha’s original plan.

]]> By: WC http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-753218 WC Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:46:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-753218 Well, JustJohn, since I'm the only one in 38 postings that brought up the impeachment, I assume you are referring to me as a "Repugass." I am not. I'm just pointing out that Shays may not be, to borrow your term, the Repugass that most people think he is. Well, JustJohn, since I’m the only one in 38 postings that brought up the impeachment, I assume you are referring to me as a “Repugass.”

I am not. I’m just pointing out that Shays may not be, to borrow your term, the Repugass that most people think he is.

]]> By: JustJohn http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-753208 JustJohn Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:39:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-753208 <strong>Clintons impeachment </strong> - now that calls for big attention, how many people died from that incident? Repugasses can't get that blowjob out of their porn based minds.... Clintons impeachment – now that calls for big attention, how many people died from that incident? Repugasses can’t get that blowjob out of their porn based minds….

]]> By: WC http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-753199 WC Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:34:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-753199 Did anyone catch the phrase Gretchen Carlson used in the 2nd paragraph of the transcript? <blockquote>You’re calling for a troop withdrawal from Iraq right now...</blockquote> "Right now" as in "immediate" or "cut and run"? Or "right now" as in "You are <em>at this point in time</em> calling for a troop withdrawal..."? Did anyone catch the phrase Gretchen Carlson used in the 2nd paragraph of the transcript?

You’re calling for a troop withdrawal from Iraq right now…

“Right now” as in “immediate” or “cut and run”?

Or “right now” as in “You are at this point in time calling for a troop withdrawal…”?

]]> By: WC http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-753193 WC Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:31:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-753193 I'm not so sure this is an election year ploy by Shays. He got my respect prior to the Senate's vote to remove Clinton from office after the impeachment. Shays was undecided on how to vote and went home and held a town-hall meeting with several hundred of his constituents to get their opinions. The event was broadcast on C-SPAN. He was very professional and allowed the folks to speak their minds. I’m not so sure this is an election year ploy by Shays. He got my respect prior to the Senate’s vote to remove Clinton from office after the impeachment. Shays was undecided on how to vote and went home and held a town-hall meeting with several hundred of his constituents to get their opinions. The event was broadcast on C-SPAN. He was very professional and allowed the folks to speak their minds.

]]> By: JustJohn http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-753190 JustJohn Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:25:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-753190 Why do republicans hate everyone except themselves? Why do republicans hate everyone except themselves?

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-753178 Gregor Samsa Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:15:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-753178 Well, seems like many Republicans hate America and want the US to lose in Iraq too... Well, seems like many Republicans hate America and want the US to lose in Iraq too…

]]> By: Spudge_Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/comment-page-1/#comment-753173 Spudge_Boy Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:05:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/25/shays-withdrawal/#comment-753173 Have enough republicans called for withdrawl that we can start to call them the "cut and run" party also? Have enough republicans called for withdrawl that we can start to call them the “cut and run” party also?

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