A coalition of the willing for Iran.
By on Aug 26th, 2006 at 11:05 am
A coalition of the willing for Iran.
“With increasing signs that several fellow Security Council members may stall a United States push to penalize Iran for its nuclear enrichment program, Bush administration officials have indicated that they are prepared to form an independent coalition to freeze Iranian assets and restrict trade.”
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Wonder what that that acronym may be?
C.O.R.E
Coalition of Retarded Enlightened?
August 26th, 2006 at 11:18 amAs long as Greenland is on board then I am OK. Would really bolster our position if Batswana was in there too
August 26th, 2006 at 11:19 amThe Iran President is smarter then our dumb leaders. Iran didn’t fall for the trap Bush made with the Israel/Lebanon war and he’s ready for what these idiots put out now. If the US does anything to Iran they will raise the price of oil to fit the lost. Like most smart educated leaders Iran has studied Bush and his team they know how they operate. Notice how China and Russia are working hard on deals for their countries while Bush plays war games with our children’s lives. The Israel people let their President join up with an idiot George W, Bush and look at the mess George got him in now the people of Israel want the President to resign. Bush took a trip with his Dad in the middle of the water to talk where no one could listen. Daddy Bush wants to make sure his deals with the Middle East don’t get caught up in his son’s mess.
August 26th, 2006 at 11:22 amGood post Jackie, Say in one of you’re post a few day’s ago you mentioned about bush and rice affair….Do you have any info or a link I can read up on ?…..Sure would like something to get this nut bag out of office…….Anything on Laura?…..With all the crap they are pulling now alway’s wonder what we don’t see or hear about behind the scenes…..Blessings
August 26th, 2006 at 11:30 amTo the detriment of world peace, Bush once again is making an “end run” around the United Nations.
This time I dont think it will work. Russia, China and IRAN are just to powerful. Another player on the world scene is Venezuela.
Iran and Venezuela could cut off our oil supply and China could call in our debt. Where would that leave the United States?
Up shit creek with no paddle!
August 26th, 2006 at 11:45 am4) Sharon
The british tabloid The Globe is were you find the Rice loves Bush saga.
August 26th, 2006 at 11:50 amEach person in the Bush admin deserves to be stripped, gagged, bound at the feet and hands, blindfolded, and paraded through the streets of Baghdad where people can through chicken feces at them
i say give’m a good ole fashioned tar and feathering…
August 26th, 2006 at 11:51 amRebel is right – Bush will do an end run to get what he and the neocons want.
Listen to the neocons already talking up war with Iran. Listen to their supporters on the hill leaning their way.
We MUST take over congress in order to stop this cabal.
Good post, Jackie – #3, bringing up the reminder of the Bush family connections.
August 26th, 2006 at 11:51 am6) Good question about the freezing of the oil. Iran’s No. 1 customer is China.
August 26th, 2006 at 11:51 am#6, I like the visual I got when I read your post.
August 26th, 2006 at 11:54 amI’d only change one thing – I’d not blind fold them – I’d let them see what’s coming.
When that is complete, then I’d advance to the suggestion in #8.
(I read an account once of just what tar and feathering does to the body – these guys deserve it.)
Good post, Jackie (3). I would also like to remind people that the AUMF that launched our response to the 9/11 attacks authorized attacking any country involved in the planning of those attacks. Former CIA Agent Baer (sp?) said on Jon Stewart’s show (or Colbert’s) that we know that the planning for those attacks took place in Iran, with the knowledge and consent of its government. Therefore, technically speaking, if they make this evidence public, the President will have the authorizartion he needs from our Congress to attack Iran, so our Congress is already out of the picture. But he would still need the approval of the U.N. because without it, an attack on Iran would be just as illegal as the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
August 26th, 2006 at 11:56 amCheney’s only objective in invading Iran is $4 per gallon motor fuel.
August 26th, 2006 at 12:02 pmwow another coalition of the useless, theres a big surprise
August 26th, 2006 at 12:13 pmWe already do that..to an extent. Our current trade restrictions are our own – many of our ‘allies’ choose to do business with Iran.
August 26th, 2006 at 12:29 pmMore Smoke
August 24, 2006
The article “Critics say Iran threat downplayed†by Mark Mazzetti puts out a pro-Bush account of our intelligence agencies’ lax in providing up to date info of Iran’s “nuclear arsenal†directed at the United States. Although in two paragraphs Mr. Mazzetti does mention that our intelligence agencies are troubled is supporting the president’s interpretation of Iran’s threats since the development of the war in Iraq proved otherwise. Thus, our agencies are gun shy. What the article failed to provide is how wide-eyed and irrational President Bush is when he demand our agencies to make “analytical judgments about Iranian WMD programs and not shy away from provocative conclusion.†In other words “Shock and Awe†part two and we all know how that crap turned out. The president even question the use of “evidences†provided by the intelligence agencies. You know: “Don’t confuse me with facts, Buster.†No, what Bush wants to do is to stove pipe more smoke up from the Office of Special Planning at the basement of the Pentagon once again. The same stove pipe that bellowed out every sinking and mistaken assessment it made for the war in Iraq. Do we need to go down that memory lane again? I don’t think so.
August 26th, 2006 at 12:35 pmWell lets see: Blair has publically stated that he wouldn’t join America on Iran. Italy and Spain don’t want anything to do with America and Poland has actually stated as a reason why it wouldn’t ally with America again is because of its experiences in Iraq (Kinda ouch.)
Germany and France both disagreed with America over Iraq.
Now a question, just who is going to be in this coalition?
August 26th, 2006 at 12:37 pmNow a question, just who is going to be in this coalition?
Comment by Bruce Gorton
Chad, Sierra Leone, Upper Volta, Monaco, and Iceland.
(Yes, I’m a George Carlin fan.)
August 26th, 2006 at 12:40 pmWhy do you on the Left always defend Iran? The President over there wants war with the west and is building up to do so. The Left should dislike the Iranian regime since women rights and free speech is oppresed. Why the support of Islamo-Fascism?
August 26th, 2006 at 12:53 pmGod of the God of Gods,
August 26th, 2006 at 12:54 pmWy do you support the Jihadis cause?
Okay, Baltar, educate me. Besides all the idotic comments about destroying the US and Israel, what has Mahmoud Ahmadinejad actually done to our country?
August 26th, 2006 at 1:01 pmBaltar,
why do you support facists?
August 26th, 2006 at 1:01 pmCoalition of the willing? I’m coming to join.
-Ahnold Schwarzenegger
August 26th, 2006 at 1:02 pmOh Kay, Try dis one!
-Der Gropernator
August 26th, 2006 at 1:04 pmI said I’m coming!
-Arnold Schwarzengger
August 26th, 2006 at 1:08 pmI was reading this and the stance and rational of other world leaders and I couldn’t help but think:
The present administration has made the USA the dumbest most irrational county in the world.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:10 pmI thought up a good nickname:
The Cowboy Administration
August 26th, 2006 at 1:11 pmBalter = Mr. Roboto.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:12 pm21. 22. Because Liberal don’t support Islamo-Fascism, you irrationally accusing nitwit.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:13 pmBecause Liberals don’t support Islamo-Fascism!
August 26th, 2006 at 1:14 pm#3: “Bush plays war games with our children’s lives.”
August 26th, 2006 at 1:16 pmWar is the ONLY, POSSIBLE solution.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:18 pmI see John Bolton’s fingerprints all over this one. But I hope they are a coalition of one. Other countries have nothing to gain by going along with BushCo’s ‘our way or the highway’ attitude. That crap will not work with Iran. BushCo is looking for any reason to start something. But seeing as how we are stuck in Afghanistan and Iraq, years later, I can’t see Congress letting them start something else they won’t be around to finish. And Republicans have their jobs to think about.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:20 pmThis is exactly how we got going in 03.
And its the stupidest thing we could possibly do.
If Bush opens up on Iran, the Shiites gonna hit the fan.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:26 pmThey are still on time for their October Surprise ‘06: mushroom clouds over Damascus and Tehran…
Our government has been hijacked! Couldn’t anyone out there help?
August 26th, 2006 at 1:42 pm“Islamo-Fascism”
Now should we call Saudia Arabia “Islamo-Facist” for their atrocities against women, and Afghanistan as well!? Afghanistan is not quiting their extreme Islamic ideology either. The United States was very firm on bringing freedom to the women to Afghanistan.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:46 pmHere’s the real ‘decider’ regarding an attack on Iran…
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/08/26/the_cheney_presidency/
Finally, a newspaper will to tell the truth. We all knew this anyway.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:48 pmHe certainly is one scary sob.
Excuse me if I’m wrong but I believe he alredy has the power to march on any country the crazy basterd want’s to….Somewhere in the patriot act there was one sentance that I and many in the senate tried to get removed that allow him to do what ever the hell this bunch want to do…Wish I could find that copy……Some one research please…That’s why I was screaming and writing all the senators at the time….Now they have all the power to go any where and raise hell…..Did you all know the patriot act was suposto have been written before 9/11…Reaad that somewhere also…Blessings
August 26th, 2006 at 1:48 pm#3 Jackie – brilliant comment.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:49 pmThe Rice loves Bush saga is old news. It was obvious how she felt about him when she accidently referred to Bush as “her husband”. Strange comment coming from someone who was NEVER married.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:52 pmI’m all for social change in the middle east, but the worst thing to do is start a war. Because all you are doing is provoking more extremism. Actually, leftist ideology is what women need in the middle east.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:53 pmLet’s see… Iran’s number 1 customer is China, China holds most of our debt and WalMart is China’s number 1 customer. Who is going to be the winner?
August 26th, 2006 at 1:54 pm#12 – Wayne – would this also apply to the countries that the attackers were citizens of, such as Saudi Arabia? Wonder how pappa bear Bush would feel if his frat boy son invaded the Saudi’s.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:57 pmI should have posted, invaded Saudi Arabia and not the Saudi’s.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:58 pmNote that Bush has NO Congressional authorization to draw the US into a war with Iran. His stupidness is going to justify attacking Iran with the AUMF passed against “terrorists”. Since the US doesn’t have the manpower to mount an operation against Iran, GW war criminal will use very large conventional bombs or more likely tactical nukes. Once we bomb Iran, they will respond as the should, with military action. Then the Congress will have no option but to declare war because in essence Iran will already have declared war on the US.
August 26th, 2006 at 2:03 pmHumm… we bomb Iran, Iran bombs our troops in Iraq and Afganistan. And we are left alone on the homefront without a miliary.
August 26th, 2006 at 2:06 pmI believe Congress still has the power to authorize the money for war.
So we are truly living ‘Carthagean peace”.
August 26th, 2006 at 2:10 pm#45 Cdwf,
No, country of origin was not, I believe, on the list of criteria that would justify attacking them. Giving material support to terrorists, I think, might have been on the list. They knew that 15 of the 19 supposed hijackers were alledgedly from Saudi Arabia, and I think if they listed country if origin as a foundation for attack, they would not have been able to avoid bombing them. So they didn’t write it that way. And besides, since almost half of the alledged 19 may actually be alive (or were after 9/11), it would have made for a weak argument for war.
August 26th, 2006 at 2:15 pmwhat needs asked, whenever anyone says usa should attack iran -
where will they get the troops?
are they going to have a draft?
August 26th, 2006 at 2:18 pm#47 bones, read my post #12,
A former CIA agent (Robert Baer?) said that evidence exists that proves that the 9/11 attacks were planned in Iran, with the Iranaian government’s knowledge and consent. The AUMF already gives the president authority to attack anyone involved in the planning. So he doesn’t need Congress. But an Act of Congress does not trump International Law, and he would still need the UN’s approval to attack them. I just don’t believe he’ll bother to try to get it.
August 26th, 2006 at 2:19 pmI would think that, unlike the American leadership, Iranians have learned a lot of valuable lessons and drawn a wide range of conclusions from the US debacle in Iraq.
American actions are giving me a sense of deja vu. My bet is that Iranians see it the same way and are preparing accordingly. Leave it to the Bush administration to repeat the same actions and expect a different result.
August 26th, 2006 at 2:27 pm#53 Gregor,
That’s because our administration’s policies are based on ideology, not facts. They do the things they do because they honestly believe they should work, not because they have historically been proven correct. Their views of the world are more along the lines of how they would like it to be, not how it really is. In short, they are delusional, and should be removed from power (peacefully and legally) before they cause more harm to humanity.
August 26th, 2006 at 2:32 pm#52, Wayne you are batshit. If the AUMF authorizes blanket military action against everyone that harbors terrorists then we should be bombing London since terrorists keep popping up in British neighborhoods planning on attacking American planes. The terrorists met in Las Vegas, I guess it’s time for some real “fireworks” on the Vegas Strip, the tourists should get “shock and awe”. This bull crap of “there’s reliable information that terrorists met in xxxxxx” so we have the right under AUMF to attack them, violates every international treaty we’ve signed. If there is reliable information, bring it forward to the US public and thru their representatives then a vote can occur. Congress votes to go to war, when Bush bombs Iran you circumvent that check and balance and violate the spirit and letter of the law.
August 26th, 2006 at 3:07 pmWayne, meant situation batshit not you. Sorry. The “reliable information” of terrorists meeting in/on/under other countries are numerous and there really is no reliable information. This Iran link is part of the current justification to go into Iran, like 3 years ago when they manufactured “reliable info” to go into Iraq. We can’t fall for “reliable info”.
August 26th, 2006 at 3:12 pm#55 bones,
Here’s the AUMF part I was referring to (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force):
Section 2 – Authorization For Use of United States Armed Forces
(a) IN GENERAL- That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.
That former CIA agent said that the attacks were planned in Iran with the knowledge and consent of the Iranian government. Therefore, he technically already has Congress’s approval to attack Iran one he presents that proof. BTW, “harboring terrorists”, I believe, means that the government actively protects them within its borders. I do not believe it means simply that they are there.
I also said that he would need to go to the UN to attack, but that he probably wouldn’t because they wouldn’t give him final approval to attack Iraq. And don’t misunderstand me: I’m not saying he would be right to do it. If it’s a valid excuse now, then it was a valid excuse five years ago. Why didn’t we go in then?
I am quite sane. I do not want war. No sane person does.
August 26th, 2006 at 3:17 pmbones,
Okay, no problem. Sometimes I type so fast I don’t realize I’m leaving out words or using the wrong ones. Apologies accepted. I didn’t think I was all that insane.
But if you mean that it was be batshit insane for them to have done that, then I agree. The scary part is that the Bush Adminstration originally wanted the AUMF to be broader in its acope. Almost a “catch-all” for any action they might want to take. They didn’t get the language they wanted and settled on this, which is destructive enough in the hands of a Social Dominant Order Authoritarian type.
August 26th, 2006 at 3:22 pmChad orders oil giants to leave
“Chad has decided that as of tomorrow (Sunday) Chevron and Petronas must leave Chad because they have refused to pay their taxes.”
The president gave the oil production consortium that is led by Exxon Mobil, a deadline of just 24 hours to start making plans to leave.
From October 2003 to December 2005, the consortium exported some 133 million barrels of oil from Chad, according to information compiled by the World Bank.
Chad itself earned $307 million, or about 12.5 per cent on each barrel exported.
NO WONDER OIL COMPANIES MAKE SO MUCH MONEY
August 26th, 2006 at 3:40 pmHi Wayne – you may address me as coffins. It’s easier to spot.
Thanks for your response. You always add an intelligent comment.
August 26th, 2006 at 3:40 pmTobey – where did you get the information about Chad ordering oil giants to leave?
August 26th, 2006 at 3:42 pmChad orders oil giants to leave WITH LINK
August 26th, 2006 at 3:43 pmThanks for the link, Tobey.
Peace.
August 26th, 2006 at 3:47 pmDamn, f**k Iran, we will be invading Chad next.
August 26th, 2006 at 3:49 pmThanks coffins, I appreciate the compliment. I also enjoy reading what you have to say.
August 26th, 2006 at 3:50 pmChad orders oil giants to leave WITH LINK
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 26, 2006 @ 3:43 pm
Im fearing that suddenly Chad´s government and his president Idriss Déby will be shifted to evil in the evil-o-meter of Bush.
August 26th, 2006 at 3:53 pmNow a question, just who is going to be in this coalition?
Comment by Bruce Gorton
Chad, Sierra Leone, Upper Volta, Monaco, and Iceland.
(Yes, I’m a George Carlin fan.)
Comment by Wayne A. Schneider
Okay, I guess we can cross Chad off the list.
August 26th, 2006 at 3:54 pmThanks Wayne.
So – what spin will Cheney/Rumsfeld/Bush/Kristol put on invading Chad? It’s funny that Bush&Co never mention Chad. They must have thought that they had Chad in their pocket. Wrong – again. I’ll be watching news on this one.
August 26th, 2006 at 3:54 pmThis Therad keeps proving the Support for the Iranian Mullahs! Lefties keep it up. It just keeps proving my theory!
August 26th, 2006 at 3:59 pmCoffins,
Well, if you’re going to be watching the news, I hope you get yours from another country’s media, because I doubt we’ll be hearing much about this in this country.
My guess would be that they’ll claim that Chad is depriving us of a vital national security interest and see how far that gets them. If they get support for it, they’ll blow it all out of proportion and somehow link it to 9/11. Oh, and don’t you go thinking we won’t hear about a justification to invade Chad without some mention of 9/11. That and making the tax cuts permanent. :)
August 26th, 2006 at 4:01 pmHey – baltar – you’re here. You do read my mail :) How sweet of you.
So Baltar, tell me, what should we do about this Chad thing, you know, the government of Chad wants to take control of their own country’s oil fields, kind of like Chevez (good Spanish name) did in Venezuela?
August 26th, 2006 at 4:01 pmWayne – Yeah, and then Bush&Co will tell us that someone from AlQaeda has inhaled an Oxygen molecule that was exhaled by someone from Chad. Now that’s a reason to invade a sovereign nation.
August 26th, 2006 at 4:04 pmwhat should we do about this Chad thing,
August 26th, 2006 at 4:05 pmI don’t care about Chad.
Galloway congratulates Hizbollah
Last Modified: 26 Aug 2006
Source: ITN
MP George Galloway has congratulated Hizbollah on its “victory” in Israel.
At a news conference in a Beirut hotel, the controversial politician said: “I came here to extend my congratulations to the Lebanese people on a great and historic victory against this aggression.
“I want to congratulate the Lebanese resistance and their leading edge, Hizbollah, whose martyrs and her s have achieved this great victory.
“And in particular to their leader, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, whose name now rings in joy around the world.”
Galloway is in Beirut to present a phone-in radio show for a British radio station.
He also condemned Prime Minister Tony Blair’s response to Israel’s war with Hizbollah.
“Tony Blair did everything he could to extend, to prolong, to intensify the suffering of the people of Lebanon. The blood of these thousands is on his hands,” he said.
Galloway is known for his outspoken comments and was kicked out of the Labour party for his outspoken opposition to the Iraq war.
August 26th, 2006 at 4:06 pmCOME ON BUSH YOU SAID YOU COULD NICK GEORGE GALLOWAY – LOOKS LIKE HES RIGHT AND YOUR WRONG
Once again George galloway is Correct and bush is wrong
August 26th, 2006 at 4:07 pmBush is always wrong.
August 26th, 2006 at 4:11 pmOnce again George galloway is Correct and bush is wrong
Comment by Tobey Tall — August 26, 2006 @ 4:07 pm
Uh-oh, you might piss off Seixon with talk like that. :)
August 26th, 2006 at 4:15 pm(Assuming he hasn’t gotten banned.)
(And by all means, feel free to piss that guy off.)
Galloway proves that there’s a Jihadi-Leftist alliance!
August 26th, 2006 at 4:16 pmIf Iran can hold on thru November elections then the Middle East crisies can be de-intensified. Unfortunately, the only ways to stop Bush involve (1) repealing the AUMF, (2) unfunding the military, and getting George tied up with impeachment proceedings so he has no time to even pee. The reublicans will of course crucify the democrats for all three and John Q Public will buy their arguements hook, line, and sinker.
August 26th, 2006 at 4:18 pmbones,
August 26th, 2006 at 4:22 pmIf Bush nukles Iran what will yoou do?
Cry and whine like a helpless child?
Jihadi-Leftest alliance. Say it three times and maybe, your mind will believe it. The rest of us know it’s bullsh*t. Now go wash your hands and get ready for dinner. Your momma’s calling you.
August 26th, 2006 at 4:23 pmBones,
August 26th, 2006 at 4:23 pmKeep posting this keeps proving the site’s Pro-Jihadi stance!
Coffins draped with flags,
August 26th, 2006 at 4:24 pmLeftist-Jihadi alliance. What about Bone’s and Jackies comments?
Heres a new Chevron BIG problem coming up
In Blow to Chevron, Ecuador Court Cancels 64 Judicial Inspections in Rainforest Trial
August 25th, 2006
Quito, Ecuador – In a major blow to Chevron in its $6 billion class-action pollution trial in Ecuador, a judge this week canceled almost all of the remaining judicial inspections sought by the parties in a move to speed the case toward a final decision.
“The court has now completed inspections of a statistically significant sample of sites,†said Pablo Fajardo, another lawyer for the plaintiffs. “At each site inspected, scientists on both sides have found high levels of toxic contamination so there is no serious factual dispute relating to the core issue of the case. The court does not need more site inspections to make a decision.â€
August 26th, 2006 at 4:26 pmTobey – you are a real “Oil Detective”. Thanks for your updates and links.
August 26th, 2006 at 4:29 pmCoffins # Glad to be bringing the truth
Peace also
August 26th, 2006 at 4:31 pmbones,
If Iran can hold on thru November elections then the Middle East crisies can be de-intensified.
I agree, but only if the Democrats gain at least one House. If the Republicans retain both Houses, the bombs could start flying by that weekend.
And even if the crisis “de-intensifies”, it will still be a crisis that will still need a resolution. And these kinds of things can only effectively be done diplomatically. And to paraphrase Colin Powell, “We don’t do diplomacy.”
August 26th, 2006 at 4:33 pmYeah, thanks Tobey. I always look forward to learning from you what our own media doesn’t want us to know (or think is important enough for us to know). Believe me, many who visit here regularly appreciate being told things we might not ever find out from the places we should be learning them.
August 26th, 2006 at 4:35 pmWell, GW doesn’t do diplomacy. But if the dems get at least the House then they can approach and engage someone like Clinton to go to the Middle east to broker the peace and work on long term plans. He has diplomatic standing, he can and has worked with the UN, he can go around Bolten, and with the House under control and Bush being deposed every 15 minutes – the House can write foreign policy thru budget control. It’s a win-win this would boost Hillary’s presidential chances if Bill was successful, so Bill and Hillary would be on board and it would give the Dems the White House.
August 26th, 2006 at 4:46 pmbones – not sure I would support Hilary in the primaries. I certainly hope that someone that is less of a target for the reichwingers gets the nomination.
August 26th, 2006 at 4:52 pmI think no matter whos elected in November , America has been stained for at least 50 years,
Because we will always remember how America can elect a Muesli Goverment at any time ( Muesli full of nutz and Flakes)
I think the Damage from Bush will be permanent ( Unfortunately) Until America stops its imperialism
August 26th, 2006 at 4:53 pmMuesli – full of nutz and flakes. You got that right.
August 26th, 2006 at 4:57 pmKeep up the fight. Must leave for now and get back to reading “Conservatives without a Conscience” by John Dean.
Coffins,
Hillary will almost certainly win re-election to the Senate. My feeling is that she can have my vote for Senator in ‘06 OR she can have my vote for President in ‘08. But she can’t have both! If she goes back to the Senate for another six-year term, she had better stay there for the full six years. Then she can run in ‘12.
August 26th, 2006 at 5:04 pmCoffins,
I brought my copy of Dean’s book with me to the office in case I wanted to refer to it. Excellent book and quite eye-opening. I’m learning about why people I thought were supposed to be conservative aren’t really, and why they must be removed from power at once.
August 26th, 2006 at 5:06 pmMy Last comment was too pessimistic to leave on
I Know there are many great liberal minded Americans out there and I wish you a great life, you and all of us deserve
I think America has been damaged By Bush for many many years to come , lets hope in November a strong change for the better starts teaching its own people and the world about peace and human compassion and keeps on this track so children grow up from now on to remember this new America As they will be the ones who do not refer to this present history
This world is on LOAN from our children we must look after it
August 26th, 2006 at 5:23 pmBest of luck to you, too, Tobey. If there are enough people like us in the world, then what you hope for is possible. But if there are too many people like Bush, well, you know where I can find a flat to stay in over there?
Peace to you.
August 26th, 2006 at 5:42 pmI think things will turn around faster than all that. Bush will be kicked out of office or leave, then the usa and the world will do a complete 180 and realise the Bush Administration pulled all of the world into a collective mentally retarded nightmare, then the world will run the opposite direction from the 1950 paranoia stint we got sucked into and never go back again to conservative ideology because it has been proven irrational nonsense.
August 26th, 2006 at 6:19 pmHi – Things are beginning to turn around on the local level here in PA. There are some really good Dems running for PA State Legislature that actually have Republicans that are saying that they will vote for these Dems. The moderate Republicans feel betrayed and have “Had Enough” so they are willing to vote for a new direction in November. All politics are local and the neocon/fascists started their movement on the local and State level. If they can do, so can we and we can do it better because we are smarter :)
August 26th, 2006 at 7:33 pmGeorge Bush has absolutely no right to do anything to Iran. The Constitution limits the right to declare war to Congress. If THEY declare war then he is the Commander in chief of the Armed forces. But he took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution that clearly does not give him any right to initiate war.
August 26th, 2006 at 7:47 pmHere we go with the Muslim Mushroom Cloud propaganda again. Bolton, Bush and the Gang appear ready to act alone on Iran sanctions, or worse. Iraq redux — but what then? Unlike Iraq, Iran has plenty of ways to respond. Bring on the $10.00 gas… All the more reason we’ve got to get control of Congress back this fall. These maniacs need at least some oversight for the last 2 years of BushCo.
August 26th, 2006 at 8:26 pmAnd these idiots are playing directly into the hands of the Chinese. the Iranians will stop selling oil to the US. The Chinese will but every drop and the Iranians will not lose a dime. Meanwhile the US economy will tank, you and I will go bancrupt, and GW will have to burn tens in the fireplace on cold winter nites instead of hundreds.
August 26th, 2006 at 8:33 pmHey Doc, do you have anything but righty rhetoric or are you going to say something of substance?
August 26th, 2006 at 8:37 pmStupid monkey boy is going to impose independent “sanctions” against Iran. Let’s see, there’s nothing Iran needs from US and oil we need from them. A blockade won’t work because if the US interferes with oil for other countries, see China/France?italy/Germany – there’s going to be a lot of sunk US ships at the hands of these countries. And as for other “sanctions” actually Iran has a greater chance of inducing OPEC countries to boycot selling oil to the US as punishment. All this is obvious unless you’re Bushboy.
August 26th, 2006 at 8:39 pmJane Lane – Bush may have taken an oath to defend the Constitution. However, he decided to trash and ignore the Constitution instead.
August 26th, 2006 at 8:59 pmBecause nuclear weapons are such a terrible thing, the only regimes that should be allowed to develop or own nuclear weapons are those that are stable and peaceful- where the world can be assured they would only be a deterrent, and thus never actually used under any circumstances.
So those regimes would be… errrr…. errrrr…… maybe Greenland?
Perhaps if the US and other nuke-possessing countries submitted to inspections, Iran might be a little more flexible?
August 27th, 2006 at 9:35 amThere will be no UNITED NATIONS resolution on Iran, but, there will be a UNITED STATES resolution on Iran.
One must realize that with George W. Bush as the head of state, that the ship is floundering on the high seas.
Yep, thats georgie, a flounder.
August 27th, 2006 at 10:30 amDid anyone notice that Iran posted a submarine to surface missile test today? Perhaps we should go against Chad – their military is far weaker then Iran’s and they cannot strike our forces in Iraq from their own soil.
August 27th, 2006 at 12:37 pmBaltar
“If Bush nukles Iran what will yoou do?
Cry and whine like a helpless child? ”
If the US nukes Iran you can expect one of two outcomes, both of which will have YOU crying and whining like a helples chid.
1) The nuclear war will expand to world wide. END OF GAME!
2) The rest of the world will dump us like a hot piece of shit. They won’t care that their own economies will suffer too, since having a nuclear armed madman runnig around loose will be worse than the worst economic depression.
Even a nonnuclear attack on Iran will lead to gas going up to $9.999 per gallon, that is when you are able to get any. Iran has the capacity to destroy all of the oil production in the Persian Gulf region, and if we damage theirs it will be slitting our own throats. Also it would lead to tens of thousands of dead soldiers, sailors and marines.
Maybe you would sign up to go fight if you weren’t a chicken hawk.
August 27th, 2006 at 3:02 pmAs to the parading the Bushies naked in Baghdad, we need to leave out Cheney. That would be a war crime beyond mention, showing his shriveld naked bady to poor Iraqis who have already suffered enough.
Though Pillsbury doughboy Rove would probably get a good laugh and then when his pink skin started to blister, they could knock him down and roll him in some broken glass, which is never in short supply there.
August 27th, 2006 at 3:04 pmits deja vu all over again, sports fans..
August 27th, 2006 at 4:59 pmYou have to love the lying bastards in the Bush Admin:
Chicago Tribune
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 08.27.2006
In the heart of Tehran stands one of Iran’s most important nuclear facilities, a dome-shaped building where scientists have conducted secret experiments that could help the country build atomic bombs. It was provided to the Iranians by the United States.
August 27th, 2006 at 5:14 pmThe Tehran Research Reactor represents a little-known aspect of the international uproar over the country’s alleged weapons program. Not only did the U.S. provide the reactor in the 1960s as part of a Cold War strategy, America also supplied the weapons-grade uranium needed to power the facility — fuel that remains in Iran and could be used to help make nuclear arms.
W has the depth in diplomacy, science, domestic issues, knowledge and war that would be exceeded by the height of an oil slick produced by a single drop of 5 weight oil in Lake Michigan.
August 27th, 2006 at 5:31 pmbones – thanks for posting that little known fact about the Shah, the US and the nuclear technology already in Iran…the shadow of 1953 looms large indeed.
August 27th, 2006 at 5:49 pmSo the US gave the the reactor and the nuclear fuel. Nuff said. And as for the coalition of the “willing” part of this article:
The ‘cloaked draft(s)’ or ‘back-door draft(s)’ seem to be new, but it reality are actually in keeping with a long line of practices the United States government has been using since the Anglo-American occupation of Iraq started in 2003. These practices include systematically barring U.S. troops in the Marine Corps and U.S. Army from leaving the proximity or near proximities of Iraq or Afghanistan, called ‘stop loss orders’ and/or prolonging military tours of duty beyond what was established/understood/promised to or with American servicemen and/or assigning multiple/consecutive military tours of duty and/or obstructing/delaying the retirement of American servicemen.
Doesn’t sound like the “willing” to me, sounds a lot like slavery.
August 27th, 2006 at 7:23 pm#115- bones- thanks for posting that story. BushCo should use it to show why they believe that Iran has enriched uranium, cause WE gave it to them! And the nuclear facility that they are operating in, as well. If not for us, none of this would be possible. This is why we should not meddle in other country’s affairs. There is a long record of it ending up being used against us. “Hello, McFly!” And Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld must be the ones who decided to rush a shipment of those ‘cluster bombs’, so Isreal could keep killing the people of Lebanon, by ‘proxy’. We need to destroy every last one of them, and never make another. We need a “Coalition of the Willing”, willing to tell BushCo to sit down and shut the f*ck up!
August 28th, 2006 at 1:26 amPay careful attention guys. There is already some talk about attacking Iran if there is another large terrorist attack on the USA.
REMEMBER THIS.
If there is another large terrorist attack on the USA a la 9/11, Iran will be attacked EVEN IF IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
REMEMBER IRAQ WAS ATTACKED UNDER THE SAME PRETEXTS. Iraq was to be attacked in the event of a “pearl harbor”-esque event in the USA. That event was 9/11 and Iraq was to be attacked EVEN IF IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
Please remember this. If the neocons can’t find some convincing enough reason to go to war with Iran, remember this when we just HAPPEN to have another large “terrorist” attack which just HAPPENS to give the necons the very reason they’re looking for. EVEN IF IRAN HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
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