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	<title>Comments on: Rumsfeld on Iraq War Critics: &#8216;Quitters&#8217; Who &#8216;Blame America First&#8217; And &#8216;Cannot Stomach A Tough Fight&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Arizona Linda</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/29/rumsfeld-war-critics/comment-page-4/#comment-777733</link>
		<dc:creator>Arizona Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You Mighty Aphrodite!  To the Progressive Sheeple: watch the news, I recommend Fox, but read the papers, watch all the news and then educate yourselves.  Don&#039;t be blind followers or repeat the mantra-like propaganda your being fed by progressives.  I was a hippie and protester, but my brains didn&#039;t fall out.  We have to fight Terror.  We need to fight in Iraq, we need to profile, we need to keep Iran in check and get Hezbollah out...do whatever it takes.  I was saddened by Cindi Sheehan and her Pinks, by the left wing liberal agenda against Israel.  It was horrible when I heard Sheehan tell a mother her she was sorry to tell her that her son died for nothing--then I see this slanted story on the front page of this website about Rich Santorum.  Santorum was the one who broke the story a few weeks ago on Hannity about how there were over 50 WDA found in Iraq and that should be your story.    I love this country.  Now the Talaban is giving us an ultimatum to switch and  become Moslems or be destroyed.  I see here that you would rather name-call and target Rumsfeld and our President, you make yourself known as you are, ignorant slaves of fashion without regard for anything but a personal fad of the month.  Ok maybe you&quot;ll make it to two months and the next slogan or target of hate because it isn&#039;t about facts, but fact twisting in this neighborhood.  Its a thrill-kill ride for breaking the American spirit; the Taliban and Hezbollah love you,  but you see, you only make us stronger.  Thanks everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You Mighty Aphrodite!  To the Progressive Sheeple: watch the news, I recommend Fox, but read the papers, watch all the news and then educate yourselves.  Don&#8217;t be blind followers or repeat the mantra-like propaganda your being fed by progressives.  I was a hippie and protester, but my brains didn&#8217;t fall out.  We have to fight Terror.  We need to fight in Iraq, we need to profile, we need to keep Iran in check and get Hezbollah out&#8230;do whatever it takes.  I was saddened by Cindi Sheehan and her Pinks, by the left wing liberal agenda against Israel.  It was horrible when I heard Sheehan tell a mother her she was sorry to tell her that her son died for nothing&#8211;then I see this slanted story on the front page of this website about Rich Santorum.  Santorum was the one who broke the story a few weeks ago on Hannity about how there were over 50 WDA found in Iraq and that should be your story.    I love this country.  Now the Talaban is giving us an ultimatum to switch and  become Moslems or be destroyed.  I see here that you would rather name-call and target Rumsfeld and our President, you make yourself known as you are, ignorant slaves of fashion without regard for anything but a personal fad of the month.  Ok maybe you&#8221;ll make it to two months and the next slogan or target of hate because it isn&#8217;t about facts, but fact twisting in this neighborhood.  Its a thrill-kill ride for breaking the American spirit; the Taliban and Hezbollah love you,  but you see, you only make us stronger.  Thanks everyone!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=777733', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave von Ebers</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/29/rumsfeld-war-critics/comment-page-4/#comment-766015</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave von Ebers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 02:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, thanks for the tip, MA ... I think...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, thanks for the tip, MA &#8230; I think&#8230;?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=766015', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Doug@usa.com</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/29/rumsfeld-war-critics/comment-page-4/#comment-765538</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug@usa.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Iâ€™m confused about several terms, â€œFreedomâ€ for one. Doug said the North Vietnamese have freedom,which made me jump for joy since that was the first I heard of it. Then he said theâ€Freedomâ€ he was referring to meant freedom from foreign domination. Apparently they donâ€™t have freedom to leave the country, thatâ€™s why the boat people had to sneak out at great personal risk, but may some day if things develope.&lt;/strong&gt;

The &quot;Boat People&quot; (aka Collaborators escaping justice) was what, 20-30 years ago? Didin&#039;t it occur immediately after the cessation of dozens of years of warfare and hundreds of years of foreign occupation? It apparently doesn&#039;t seem to have been an issue since then, though. 

I think after a few hundred years of foreign rule, a people should have at least a decade to sort things out. It took Americans what, 80 years to officialy live up to the ideals of their revolution (&quot;all men are created equal&quot;) at least another 100 years before they started living the official line. So it took Americans almost 200 years to figure things out following their revolution, if the Vietnamese do it in a couple dozen years, that makes them at least a magnitude more intelligent and forward thinking than Americans.

Its also pretty easy for Colonial Slavers, like Americans, to demean the people that had just thrown off the yoke of foreign pillagers. But let&#039;s see if Americans have the freedom to hold an anti-Bush sign up on the side of the road when Bush passes by in his armored motorcade.

Even Hitler could ride in an open top car safelty among the German people, but in the &quot;free&quot; United States, the Dear Leader hides behind bulletproof glass and hundreds of armed thugs, while the citizens are herded into cages (aka Free Speech Zones). Its just like the freedom Soviets had to relocate to Siberia if they said anything against &lt;em&gt;their&lt;/em&gt; Dear Leader.

Americans should worry about freedom at home before worrying about it anywhere else on earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Iâ€™m confused about several terms, â€œFreedomâ€ for one. Doug said the North Vietnamese have freedom,which made me jump for joy since that was the first I heard of it. Then he said theâ€Freedomâ€ he was referring to meant freedom from foreign domination. Apparently they donâ€™t have freedom to leave the country, thatâ€™s why the boat people had to sneak out at great personal risk, but may some day if things develope.</strong></p>
<p>The &#8220;Boat People&#8221; (aka Collaborators escaping justice) was what, 20-30 years ago? Didin&#8217;t it occur immediately after the cessation of dozens of years of warfare and hundreds of years of foreign occupation? It apparently doesn&#8217;t seem to have been an issue since then, though. </p>
<p>I think after a few hundred years of foreign rule, a people should have at least a decade to sort things out. It took Americans what, 80 years to officialy live up to the ideals of their revolution (&#8221;all men are created equal&#8221;) at least another 100 years before they started living the official line. So it took Americans almost 200 years to figure things out following their revolution, if the Vietnamese do it in a couple dozen years, that makes them at least a magnitude more intelligent and forward thinking than Americans.</p>
<p>Its also pretty easy for Colonial Slavers, like Americans, to demean the people that had just thrown off the yoke of foreign pillagers. But let&#8217;s see if Americans have the freedom to hold an anti-Bush sign up on the side of the road when Bush passes by in his armored motorcade.</p>
<p>Even Hitler could ride in an open top car safelty among the German people, but in the &#8220;free&#8221; United States, the Dear Leader hides behind bulletproof glass and hundreds of armed thugs, while the citizens are herded into cages (aka Free Speech Zones). Its just like the freedom Soviets had to relocate to Siberia if they said anything against <em>their</em> Dear Leader.</p>
<p>Americans should worry about freedom at home before worrying about it anywhere else on earth.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=765538', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: LOOKATYOURSELVES</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/29/rumsfeld-war-critics/comment-page-4/#comment-765132</link>
		<dc:creator>LOOKATYOURSELVES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PROSECUTE-EXECUTE
this should be a slogan of the people for the people to regain their truly free lives and be ride of crimes against humanity-</description>
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this should be a slogan of the people for the people to regain their truly free lives and be ride of crimes against humanity-<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=765132', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave von Ebers</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/29/rumsfeld-war-critics/comment-page-4/#comment-765058</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave von Ebers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good lord!  Another brain cramp.  This is what I&#039;m referring to in No. 196.&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lord!  Another brain cramp.  This is what I&#8217;m referring to in No. 196.<a href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=765058', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave von Ebers</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/29/rumsfeld-war-critics/comment-page-4/#comment-765056</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave von Ebers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the non-functioning link.  It&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the non-functioning link.  It&#8217;s <a href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=765056', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave von Ebers</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/29/rumsfeld-war-critics/comment-page-4/#comment-764147</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave von Ebers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MA, I&#039;m not going to do your homework for you anymore.  Go here:http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/.  Read all the documents very carefully.  If you still believe that our support of Hussein was justified, you need to get some serious help. 

Your comments demonstrate the worst kind of moral relativism I can imagine.  You think it was okay to allow sales of biological and chemical agents to Saddam Hussein just because he might have been the lesser evil?  Do you really believe that?  That is, simply put, the most amoral thing I&#039;ve ever heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MA, I&#8217;m not going to do your homework for you anymore.  Go here:http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/.  Read all the documents very carefully.  If you still believe that our support of Hussein was justified, you need to get some serious help. </p>
<p>Your comments demonstrate the worst kind of moral relativism I can imagine.  You think it was okay to allow sales of biological and chemical agents to Saddam Hussein just because he might have been the lesser evil?  Do you really believe that?  That is, simply put, the most amoral thing I&#8217;ve ever heard.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=764147', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/29/rumsfeld-war-critics/comment-page-4/#comment-762994</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems quite appropriate that he (isn&#039;t MA a he?) had to pause his incoherent ravings because, &quot;itâ€™s time for dictationâ€¦.. &quot;

Per Greek mythology, Aphrodite was born when Uranus (the father of the gods) was castrated by his son Cronus who then threw the severed genitals into the ocean which began to churn and foam. From the aphros (&quot;sea foam&quot;) arose Aphrodite.

Not that there&#039;s anything wrong with dictation...

I wonder why he spends so much time here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems quite appropriate that he (isn&#8217;t MA a he?) had to pause his incoherent ravings because, &#8220;itâ€™s time for dictationâ€¦.. &#8221;</p>
<p>Per Greek mythology, Aphrodite was born when Uranus (the father of the gods) was castrated by his son Cronus who then threw the severed genitals into the ocean which began to churn and foam. From the aphros (&#8221;sea foam&#8221;) arose Aphrodite.</p>
<p>Not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with dictation&#8230;</p>
<p>I wonder why he spends so much time here.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=762994', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Squidbilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squidbilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rummy&#039;s showing signs of becomming senile. 

Didn&#039;t he oppose the Vietnam war and wanted a American withdraw,an opinion that got him out of the Nixon inner circle???  I guess he was a quitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rummy&#8217;s showing signs of becomming senile. </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t he oppose the Vietnam war and wanted a American withdraw,an opinion that got him out of the Nixon inner circle???  I guess he was a quitter.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=762897', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rumsfeld quote: &quot;Am I inconsistent? Yes, okay, I am.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumsfeld quote: &#8220;Am I inconsistent? Yes, okay, I am.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=762838', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe Deegan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Deegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franklin Roosevelt met with Josef Stalin, several times and we armed the Soviet Union when it was under attack from the Nazis. Roosevelt and Rumsfeld.
   I&#039;m confused about several terms, &quot;Freedom&quot; for one. Doug said the North Vietnamese have freedom,which made me jump for joy since that was the first I heard of it.  Then he said the&quot;Freedom&quot; he was referring to meant freedom from foreign domination. Apparently they don&#039;t have freedom to leave the country, that&#039;s why the boat people had to sneak out at great personal risk, but may some day if things develope. 
  Another thing I find confusing is the term Social Justice. Justice, the way I understand it , is getting what you deserve, so how does the  word Social change the meaning, or do some people just like the way it sounds?
Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franklin Roosevelt met with Josef Stalin, several times and we armed the Soviet Union when it was under attack from the Nazis. Roosevelt and Rumsfeld.<br />
   I&#8217;m confused about several terms, &#8220;Freedom&#8221; for one. Doug said the North Vietnamese have freedom,which made me jump for joy since that was the first I heard of it.  Then he said the&#8221;Freedom&#8221; he was referring to meant freedom from foreign domination. Apparently they don&#8217;t have freedom to leave the country, that&#8217;s why the boat people had to sneak out at great personal risk, but may some day if things develope.<br />
  Another thing I find confusing is the term Social Justice. Justice, the way I understand it , is getting what you deserve, so how does the  word Social change the meaning, or do some people just like the way it sounds?<br />
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		<title>By: Global Geopolitics News &#187; Iraq Crisis News - Rumsfeld on Iraq War Critics: Quitters Who Blame America &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Geopolitics News &#187; Iraq Crisis News - Rumsfeld on Iraq War Critics: Quitters Who Blame America &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rumsfeld on Iraq War Critics: Quitters Who Blame America &#8230;Think Progress,&#160;DC&#160;- 21 hours agoRumsfeld could have taken the opportunity to address the critical challenges of the war in Iraq: the security situation in Baghdad, mounting US military and &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rumsfeld on Iraq War Critics: Quitters Who Blame America &#8230;Think Progress,&nbsp;DC&nbsp;- 21 hours agoRumsfeld could have taken the opportunity to address the critical challenges of the war in Iraq: the security situation in Baghdad, mounting US military and &#8230; [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=762535', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bush Bites</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bush Bites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 05:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t blame America. I blame Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t blame America. I blame Bush.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=762377', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Briseadh na Faire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Briseadh na Faire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 03:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bones, Mr. Ebers, excellent. 

I had a go-around with Mighty Fraud on the Batiste thread. She couldn&#039;t come up with any civil rights violations in the Padilla case, yet she claimed to be a defense attorney.

Mr. Ebers, I am always pleased to make a professional acquaintance. If you wish, you may email me at myspammailbox at hotmail dot com.

Bones, the same invitation goes to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bones, Mr. Ebers, excellent. </p>
<p>I had a go-around with Mighty Fraud on the Batiste thread. She couldn&#8217;t come up with any civil rights violations in the Padilla case, yet she claimed to be a defense attorney.</p>
<p>Mr. Ebers, I am always pleased to make a professional acquaintance. If you wish, you may email me at myspammailbox at hotmail dot com.</p>
<p>Bones, the same invitation goes to you.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=762308', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregor Samsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 03:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bones, 

That was a very clear explanation. Thanks. 

I knew some of the details, but not to the extent you explained it. I was hoping MA would offer a similar feedback. Well, not really. It was my challenge to her because she keeps babbling about the standing issue, when I suspect she only has a scant notion of what it means. Same for her &quot;hypothetical injury&quot; nonsense.</description>
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<p>That was a very clear explanation. Thanks. </p>
<p>I knew some of the details, but not to the extent you explained it. I was hoping MA would offer a similar feedback. Well, not really. It was my challenge to her because she keeps babbling about the standing issue, when I suspect she only has a scant notion of what it means. Same for her &#8220;hypothetical injury&#8221; nonsense.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=762268', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dyspeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>dyspeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 03:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These neo-cons are the biggest traitors to come down the pike since the founding of the republic. Pigs at the trough, and zero sense of the value of what they&#039;ve destroyed, including US credibility, which at this point, due to the diligent efforts of Rummy, the Bionic Dick, and Shrub and friends, is unlikey to recover in the lifetime of anyone breathing today. Undoing principles of civil rights held dear in the Western world since the 13th century. Unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These neo-cons are the biggest traitors to come down the pike since the founding of the republic. Pigs at the trough, and zero sense of the value of what they&#8217;ve destroyed, including US credibility, which at this point, due to the diligent efforts of Rummy, the Bionic Dick, and Shrub and friends, is unlikey to recover in the lifetime of anyone breathing today. Undoing principles of civil rights held dear in the Western world since the 13th century. Unbelievable.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=762266', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  I got deleted twice on this thread alone.  Personal best...

F*ck Rumsfeld.

(Happy, Judd?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  I got deleted twice on this thread alone.  Personal best&#8230;</p>
<p>F*ck Rumsfeld.</p>
<p>(Happy, Judd?)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=762218', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave von Ebers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave von Ebers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susa, the always seem to bring up WWII (or the impending &quot;WWIII&quot;) because they are desperate for some meaning in their useless lives.   They want so badly to believe they&#039;re fighting the next WWII, the next Nazi or Soviet threat, because, in reality, they&#039;ve done exactly nothing of value with their lives.  Their contemporaries either fought in or protested Vietnam, while these sons-of-bitches got deferments, got in the the national guard (at a time when guard duty meant staying stateside), or were lucky enough to be too old or too young for the Vietnam draft.  These guys - Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the rest of them, were too busy partying, avoiding military service, or just making piles of cash to get involved in any meaningful social action - they were on the wrong side of Vietnam, the civil rights movement, the equal rights movement, the environmental movement ... they were on the wrong side of history.  Now, in their dotage, they are trying to make up for their wasted lives by convincing us that Saddam was Hitler and that the &quot;war on terror&quot; is the moral equivalent of WWII. 

Pathetic with a capital &quot;P&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susa, the always seem to bring up WWII (or the impending &#8220;WWIII&#8221;) because they are desperate for some meaning in their useless lives.   They want so badly to believe they&#8217;re fighting the next WWII, the next Nazi or Soviet threat, because, in reality, they&#8217;ve done exactly nothing of value with their lives.  Their contemporaries either fought in or protested Vietnam, while these sons-of-bitches got deferments, got in the the national guard (at a time when guard duty meant staying stateside), or were lucky enough to be too old or too young for the Vietnam draft.  These guys &#8211; Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the rest of them, were too busy partying, avoiding military service, or just making piles of cash to get involved in any meaningful social action &#8211; they were on the wrong side of Vietnam, the civil rights movement, the equal rights movement, the environmental movement &#8230; they were on the wrong side of history.  Now, in their dotage, they are trying to make up for their wasted lives by convincing us that Saddam was Hitler and that the &#8220;war on terror&#8221; is the moral equivalent of WWII. </p>
<p>Pathetic with a capital &#8220;P&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=762206', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SUSA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/29/rumsfeld-war-critics/comment-page-4/#comment-762195</link>
		<dc:creator>SUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My daddy....bla bla bla

&quot;I do worry about the lack of perspective in our national dialogue today â€” the perspective of historyâ€¦&quot;

Yeah I worry like hell because of your lack of perspective and perspective of history, you retard Donald Rummy.

Yeah, like the delusional, paranoid, psychopathic, no wit is going to teach me about perspective! Yeah right!

Interesting note though, these moron, brain deads who call thier group, Republicans all have a father from WWII which they always bring up.  Some kind of issue there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daddy&#8230;.bla bla bla</p>
<p>&#8220;I do worry about the lack of perspective in our national dialogue today â€” the perspective of historyâ€¦&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah I worry like hell because of your lack of perspective and perspective of history, you retard Donald Rummy.</p>
<p>Yeah, like the delusional, paranoid, psychopathic, no wit is going to teach me about perspective! Yeah right!</p>
<p>Interesting note though, these moron, brain deads who call thier group, Republicans all have a father from WWII which they always bring up.  Some kind of issue there.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=762195', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If his dumb ass hadn&#039;t been around the &quot;Tough fight&quot; may have never happened. Since they lied us into this war, his dumb, arrogant ass is responsible for the failure in the war being executed properly.
  He was so stuck on making this a modern era, fast and quick force, he wouldn&#039;t listen to advice that would necessitate changing course once things started to go wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If his dumb ass hadn&#8217;t been around the &#8220;Tough fight&#8221; may have never happened. Since they lied us into this war, his dumb, arrogant ass is responsible for the failure in the war being executed properly.<br />
  He was so stuck on making this a modern era, fast and quick force, he wouldn&#8217;t listen to advice that would necessitate changing course once things started to go wrong.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=762189', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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