Comments on: $20 million: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:40:58 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Payday Advance http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-4302964 Payday Advance Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:30:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-4302964 <strong>Payday Advance</strong> When your Dad is stuck in a low benefits employment and is struggling livng on the income online cash advance will help. Payday Advance

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]]> By: Five of Diamonds http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-767190 Five of Diamonds Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:59:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-767190 PROP-A-GAN-DA PROP-A-GAN-DA

]]> By: Michelle http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-766443 Michelle Fri, 01 Sep 2006 10:43:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-766443 Considering all of the new cable programming about 9-11, Osama, and Iraq, I would not doubt that the government is funding such programming. Especially since an election is right around the corner. They need to make up excuses and try to reach out to America for sympathy for their failures (by using patriotism) So that 20 mil is just a drop in the bucket. The government has it's hands in all sorts of public relations. Video games and propaganda driven television are just a few. Considering all of the new cable programming about 9-11, Osama, and Iraq, I would not doubt that the government is funding such programming. Especially since an election is right around the corner. They need to make up excuses and try to reach out to America for sympathy for their failures (by using patriotism) So that 20 mil is just a drop in the bucket. The government has it’s hands in all sorts of public relations. Video games and propaganda driven television are just a few.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765719 Gregor Samsa Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:09:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765719 Marie, I am not aware of any other propaganda effort from the Pentagon. The other one I recall was from the Department of State: <i>The mastermind of U.S. public diplomacy efforts in the wake of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, resigned from her State Department post Monday.</i> <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/03/state.resignation/" rel="nofollow">Bush's Muslim propaganda chief quits</a> I don't know how many millions of dollars were spent in this campaign to sell the US in the Middle East. Marie,

I am not aware of any other propaganda effort from the Pentagon. The other one I recall was from the Department of State:

The mastermind of U.S. public diplomacy efforts in the wake of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, resigned from her State Department post Monday.
Bush’s Muslim propaganda chief quits

I don’t know how many millions of dollars were spent in this campaign to sell the US in the Middle East.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765563 Marie Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:17:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765563 Gregor, I am not sure if the program I am thinking of is the OSI you speak of, or another one in about the same time frame. It was a program of deliberate disinformation, supposedly aimed at foreign audiences, but there was no doubt in my mind that it was domestic as well. I recall the Pentagon's plan, which was a little more recent and was strictly military/war information. They say they halted that one too - but I don't trust their word. Gregor, I am not sure if the program I am thinking of is the OSI you speak of, or another one in about the same time frame. It was a program of deliberate disinformation, supposedly aimed at foreign audiences, but there was no doubt in my mind that it was domestic as well.
I recall the Pentagon’s plan, which was a little more recent and was strictly military/war information. They say they halted that one too – but I don’t trust their word.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765474 Gregor Samsa Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:35:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765474 <i>Does this ring any bells? Comment by Cyra Brown — August 31, 2006 @ 4:31 pm </i> I remembered two efforts to "catapult the propaganda" that were made public. I had to look for the information because I didn't recall the specifics. The first one was the Pentagon's <a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?id=1521846767-598" rel="nofollow">Office of Strategic Influence</a>, that had a budget of around $100million. It was meant to influence the way the US is perceived abroad. It was shut down in 2002. The second effort is, I think, the one you are alluding to. It was a <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-12-14-pentagon-pr_x.htm" rel="nofollow">psychological warfare operation</a> by the Pentagon aimed at "planting" US-friendly stories in Iraqi newspapers, and had a budget of $300million. It was also stopped -at least officially. The current effort is different from those two in that the aim is the domestic audience rather than the foreign. Obviously it is also designed to "filter" negative stories and view points without proper official approval by buying loyalties. Does this ring any bells?
Comment by Cyra Brown — August 31, 2006 @ 4:31 pm

I remembered two efforts to “catapult the propaganda” that were made public. I had to look for the information because I didn’t recall the specifics.

The first one was the Pentagon’s Office of Strategic Influence, that had a budget of around $100million. It was meant to influence the way the US is perceived abroad. It was shut down in 2002.

The second effort is, I think, the one you are alluding to. It was a psychological warfare operation by the Pentagon aimed at “planting” US-friendly stories in Iraqi newspapers, and had a budget of $300million. It was also stopped -at least officially.

The current effort is different from those two in that the aim is the domestic audience rather than the foreign. Obviously it is also designed to “filter” negative stories and view points without proper official approval by buying loyalties.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765445 Marie Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:26:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765445 Katy, I am saving my Mother Jones copy with that article in it. I am saving the timelines here at TP as well. I think when the Bushies have finished their Orwellian cleanse of historical facts, my grandchildren may find them helpful. Katy, I am saving my Mother Jones copy with that article in it.
I am saving the timelines here at TP as well. I think when the Bushies have finished their Orwellian cleanse of historical facts, my grandchildren may find them helpful.

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765440 Marie Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:23:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765440 #38 When, under pressure, Bush&Co said they would not go forward with their program of disinformation, it was only that they would merely go ahead with it and just not say so. They are desperate for news of the debacle in Iraq to be squelched as much as possible; the msm is quite compliant, but Bush&Co is not satisfied. Look how the 24/7 news outlets have spent 99% of their coverage on Karr, on Jeffs, on anything but real news that affects everyone. BTW, how much notice is being given to the FAA and its cutting by half the number of traffic controllers? One controller on duty in Louisville, against the rules of the FAA, because of cost-cutting by the bastards in office. #38
When, under pressure, Bush&Co said they would not go forward with their program of disinformation, it was only that they would merely go ahead with it and just not say so.
They are desperate for news of the debacle in Iraq to be squelched as much as possible; the msm is quite compliant, but Bush&Co is not satisfied.
Look how the 24/7 news outlets have spent 99% of their coverage on Karr, on Jeffs, on anything but real news that affects everyone.

BTW, how much notice is being given to the FAA and its cutting by half the number of traffic controllers? One controller on duty in Louisville, against the rules of the FAA, because of cost-cutting by the bastards in office.

]]> By: Cyra Brown http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765325 Cyra Brown Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:31:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765325 Maybe I am "misrememberig" here, but I seem to recall a story, probably from 2005, about Rumsfeld using $100 million dollars to create a 'Department of Propoganda' sort of thing, hiring P.R. firms to come up with stories, to tell US how great things are going, blah, blah, blah, and that Iraq would be targeted as well. Does this ring any bells? Maybe I am “misrememberig” here, but I seem to recall a story, probably from 2005, about Rumsfeld using $100 million dollars to create a ‘Department of Propoganda’ sort of thing, hiring P.R. firms to come up with stories, to tell US how great things are going, blah, blah, blah, and that Iraq would be targeted as well. Does this ring any bells?

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765279 katy Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:58:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765279 . Songfacts: http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=246 Turn! Turn! Turn! (To Everything There Is a Season) by The Byrds This was written by Pete Seeger, an influential folk singer and activist. He recorded it before The Byrds covered it as a follow-up to their hit "Mr. Tambourine Man." The lyrics were based on a passage from the book of Ecclesiastes in The Bible. They were married to Seeger's music to make the song. ... .
Songfacts: http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=246
Turn! Turn! Turn! (To Everything There Is a Season) by The Byrds
This was written by Pete Seeger, an influential folk singer and activist. He recorded it before The Byrds covered it as a follow-up to their hit “Mr. Tambourine Man.”
The lyrics were based on a passage from the book of Ecclesiastes in The Bible. They were married to Seeger’s music to make the song.
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]]> By: Bush Bag http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765278 Bush Bag Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:57:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765278 Never try to teach a Pig to dance. It can only frustrate you, and it annoys the Hell out of the Pig. $20M to Lebanon, counteracting Hezbollah's recent activity? Nah, too 'Liberal'. $15M to establish where the money is going? Nah, too 'Accountable'. $9BILLION missing? Ah, it's just money. You see, that's why you can't teach Pigs to dance. Never try to teach a Pig to dance.
It can only frustrate you, and it
annoys the Hell out of the Pig.

$20M to Lebanon, counteracting Hezbollah’s recent activity?
Nah, too ‘Liberal’.
$15M to establish where the money is going?
Nah, too ‘Accountable’.
$9BILLION missing?
Ah, it’s just money.

You see, that’s why you can’t teach Pigs to dance.

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765270 katy Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:53:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765270 found this amazing piece of work via crooks and liars: Li<strong>e by Lie: Chronicle of a War Foretold: August 1990 to March 2003 http://www.motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline/index.html</strong> found this amazing piece of work via crooks and liars:

Lie by Lie: Chronicle of a War Foretold: August 1990 to March 2003
http://www.motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline/index.html

]]> By: Mags http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765252 Mags Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:34:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765252 Who got the contract? Who got the contract?

]]> By: Willy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765249 Willy Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:34:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765249 The Bush administration fears the truth, so they put out propoganda instead. Those who fear the truth are the biggest cowards of all. The Bush administration fears the truth, so they put out propoganda instead. Those who fear the truth are the biggest cowards of all.

]]> By: Impeachcheneythenbush http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765241 Impeachcheneythenbush Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:26:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765241 # <em>RUCerious, I believe it was the Byrds who sang it but the text is actually from the Bible somewhere. Comment by libra — August 31, 2006 @ 3:05 pm </em> It's from Eccleiastes 3:1-9. The whole book is very interesting, actually. #

RUCerious, I believe it was the Byrds who sang it but the text is actually from the Bible somewhere.

Comment by libra — August 31, 2006 @ 3:05 pm

It’s from Eccleiastes 3:1-9. The whole book is very interesting, actually.

]]> By: Impeachcheneythenbush http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765220 Impeachcheneythenbush Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:13:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765220 Let them spin today's news: in Baghdad, 45 killed and 160 wounded. Just one more day in their fantasy of progress in Iraq. And what part of the defense budget or "emergency supplemental" is paying for this.....with OUR money!! Actually, considering this is all being done now with borrowed money, it's actually our kids and grandkid's money. Talk about taxation without representation! Let them spin today’s news: in Baghdad, 45 killed and 160 wounded. Just one more day in their fantasy of progress in Iraq. And what part of the defense budget or “emergency supplemental” is paying for this…..with OUR money!! Actually, considering this is all being done now with borrowed money, it’s actually our kids and grandkid’s money. Talk about taxation without representation!

]]> By: ann http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765219 ann Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:13:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765219 $20m for propaganda but Ted Stevens doesn't want to spend $15m for a searchable database of how the government spends our money. Come on, even the wingers have got to understand this kind of waste. $20m for propaganda but Ted Stevens doesn’t want to spend $15m for a searchable database of how the government spends our money. Come on, even the wingers have got to understand this kind of waste.

]]> By: libra http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765208 libra Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:05:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765208 RUCerious, I believe it was the Byrds who sang it but the text is actually from the Bible somewhere. RUCerious, I believe it was the Byrds who sang it but the text is actually from the Bible somewhere.

]]> By: PLC (PatrioticLiberalChristian) http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765202 PLC (PatrioticLiberalChristian) Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:00:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765202 RUcerious You were right the first time (and creative,too) RUcerious
You were right the first time (and creative,too)

]]> By: ann http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/comment-page-1/#comment-765188 ann Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:54:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/31/20-million/#comment-765188 Health care for all is too expensive.....but we've got an extra $20m around for propaganda? Health care for all is too expensive…..but we’ve got an extra $20m around for propaganda?

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