Writer of ABC’s 9/11 ‘Docudrama’ Is Avowed Conservative Activist
Writer of ABC’s 9/11 ‘Docudrama’ Is Avowed Conservative Activist
ABC will air a “docudrama” next weekend called “The Path to 9/11″ which blames President Clinton for the 9/11 attacks while praising President Bush.
The writer of the movie is an unabashed conservative named Cyrus Nowrasteh. Last year, Nowrasteh spoke on a panel titled, “Rebels With a Cause: How Conservatives Can Lead Hollywood’s Next Paradigm Shift.” He has described Michael Moore as “an out of control socialist weasel,” and conducted interviews with right-wing websites like FrontPageMag.
The problem isn’t that Nowrasteh is conservative. The problem is that Nowrasteh and ABC are representing “The Path to 9/11″ as an unbiased historical drama. Promos for the movie say it is “based on the 9/11 Commission Report.” Nowrasteh claims he “wanted to match the just-the-facts tone of the report,” and describes the project as “an objective telling of the events of 9/11.”
Here’s some of the objectivity you can expect: Nowrasteh says the film shows how Clinton had “frequent opportunities…in the 90s to stop Bin Laden in his tracks — but lacked the will to do so.” He has referenced Clinton’s “lack of response” to Al Qaeda “and how this emboldened Bin Laden to keep attacking American interests.” A review today in Salon.com says the film paints Clinton “as a buffoon more interested in blow jobs than terrorists.”
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September 1st, 2006 at 3:43 pmNot to stand up for this ‘tard but Micheal Moore… well, he is “an out of control socialist weasel.â€
September 1st, 2006 at 3:46 pmSuch a serious look. He must be a serious person with serious ideas that we should take really seriously.
September 1st, 2006 at 3:46 pmRepublicans also missed Bin Laden at Tora Bora and also his hospital bed in Saudi having Dialasis from and American Doctor
This was deliberate as with bin Laden captured it was time to leave Afghanistan and a big gas pipeline chance wasted
Also Bin Laden is dead so you should leave anyway – your not paying the warlords backsheesh anymore like the last elections….. Afghanistan will be free next elections …….Unless America installs a dictator ???? as in 43 other countries since 1945
September 1st, 2006 at 3:47 pmHow desperate can they get? As anyone knows, each president inherits both good and bad from his predecessor. (perhaps clinton should blame it all on Papa Bush now??) The true measure of a president’s performance, aka his “legacy”, is the measure of his accomplishments during the time he was in office, regardless of what his “inheritance” was from the President he followed. It’s really as simple as that and certainly levels the playing field for evaluating each one on their own merit.
To say that Dubya has nothing positive he can tout is an understatement so it’s clear that this “activist” is digging deep to besmerch the character of Bill Clinton. Give the american people some credit for a moderate amount of intelligence, please! We can clearly see the “blame game” in all it’s glory every day of the week and now will see through the tactics of this docu-whatever-you want-to-call-it.
In fact, this will only serve to highlight the worthless “blame game” which is characteristic of this administration. The old “PASS THE BUCK” theory. By now the american people have caught on though and will hold this man totally accountable for his errors in judgment, lies, and treachery. And, absolutely NO ONE ELSE! He’s the President now and the buck does stop there!
What are his outstanding accomplishments to date??????????Just wondering…
September 1st, 2006 at 3:49 pmThe Repbulicans are so desperate, they’re throwing out crap to see if any of it will stick, and it DOES land on about 35% of the population. What angers me most is that ABC is even thinking of airing it. Is there a petition somewhere we can sign?
September 1st, 2006 at 3:50 pmTime for a boycott.
September 1st, 2006 at 3:52 pmWait a minute… not fair. You libs made me sit through Fahrenheit 9/11 and told me to shut up, not disagree with it and obey your master Moore. So now, just watch this show, you might learn something. If not, then you can just come back here and bash republicans some more.
September 1st, 2006 at 3:52 pm911 happened on Chimpy’s watch. Not Clinton’s.
Interesting story about Clinton and Osama. The CIA had a bead on Osama and wanted to kill him. They went to Clinton for the OK.
Clinton had to let Osama go. Not because he’s weak on terrorism. Because Osama was entertaining half the Dubai royal family and Clinton couldn’t kill them too.
Now Chimpy is letting Dubai buy up all our ports. The same Dubya Ports World that bungled security in Yemen and let terrorists blow up the USS Cole.
Yeah right, Clinton’s fault. What a load of bullshit.
September 1st, 2006 at 3:52 pmOUT RIGHT PROPAGANDA
September 1st, 2006 at 3:52 pmBlatant bullshit for the gulable ignorant of america to swollow…Hitler and all NAZIS are smiling in their hell,financed by BUSH’s grandfather Prescot,the banker and backer of NAZIS,fact of real history….
Film is based on the 9/11 report that was also just cover up propaganda, the theory is to keep repeating lies until they are part of societies memory….IMPEACH-PROSECUTE-EXECUTE is a new slogan for TRUTH
Hmm. Blowjobs…. Terrorists… Hmmmmmm. That is a toughie. I’m not the elected leader of the free world, but I’m really leaniong towards blowjobs myself. That’s a tough situation to be in. See? None of us can truly appreciate the responsibilities of being President.
September 1st, 2006 at 3:53 pmABC is releasing this in reaction to the Fed’s offering a “9/11 conspiracy theory” rebuttal.
Also, ABC has over the years has set out to prove “conspiracies” wrong, i.e. Kennedy assasination, and the Faked moon landing. Tons of mis-information and flat out lie’s.
September 1st, 2006 at 3:54 pmContact ABC: http://abc.go.com/site/contactus.html
Let them know what you think of a neocon writing a documentary
September 1st, 2006 at 3:54 pmNot long before the world is free from America ….. I wait for that day in haste —YEEE HAAA
September 1st, 2006 at 3:54 pmthe film paints Clinton “as a buffoon more interested in blow jobs than terrorists.†– - Sadly, I know quite a few Republicans who say that exact thing. W gets a free pass for the sins of Bill.
September 1st, 2006 at 3:55 pmclearly this ‘writer” would like to get a blowjob and can’t
September 1st, 2006 at 3:59 pmthus he writes a blowjob instead. common transference
And Michael Moore is neutral ?? Come on .. this post really doesn’t deserves to be published.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:01 pmAt least Bill Clinton received blow jobs from a woman.
Chimpy gives blow jobs to his man-whore Jeff Gannon.
Then he bashes gays to win votes from the Religious Reich.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:03 pmIt’s just more of the liberal media .
September 1st, 2006 at 4:03 pmWhat do you care to wager that this shameful excuse for journalism fails to mention the fact that Bush kept postponing meetings with Richard Clark regarding terrorist threats to the US until 9/11 occurred? I’s also wager there’s no mention of Bush’s meeting with an unnamed CIA staffer who flew to his Texas ranch to call his attention to the August 6, 2001 memo entitled “Bin Laden determined to strike in US.” Bush told that staffer that he had “covered his ass.”
Bet that didn’t make it into the film
Even if Clinton wanted to do something about bin Laden, the current terror hawks were so busy worrying about his blow jobs, and tying him up in unncessary, partisan litigation that he could not have dealt with the issue if he wanted to. Nope, sorry, Clinton is definintely not to blame for 9/11. It was under his watch that the appropriate intelligence was gathered. Bush, then as now, ignored it.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:04 pmAt least CLinton tried to get Bin Laden. Bush and Co dont seem to care about killing/catching him. They have spend nearly a trillion dollars that has only made up worse off. If you blame Clinton, a president who was tring to kill the leaders of Al Quada, you are very, very stupid or just plane brainwashed. Yes Clinton could have done more, but Bush and co. have done nothing!
911 was an inside job. Government power, oil, banking, military power, and defence contracts, all had some kind of hand in making 911 an inside job. Whether they know it or not.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:05 pmManuel, you are a Chimpyloving moron.
Michael Moore financed his own independent film on 911. It was not broadcast on an American TV network (It probably never will be). Moore even had problems with a distributor trying to back out on him. And Michael Moore is up front about being partisan. He never claimed 911 was going to be neutral.
This conservative jackass claims he will be neutral and he obviously isn’t. And he’s getting this played on a TV network. This is a huge difference.
911 happened on Chimpy’s watch. Chimpy ignored warnings. Chimpy sat in a school room reading My Pet Goat for seven minutes after the second plane hit.
911 is NOT Clinton’s fault, and anybody who says otherwise is a lying sack of shit.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:06 pmMichael Moore isn’t neutral, but he’s factual. 9-11 was a documentary. This is shoddy little docudrama with fake facts slipped in.
Bummer for you right wingers, isn’ it? Michael Moore that left wing looney get his facts right.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:10 pmIt’s a movie for Christ’s sake. A goddamn movie. Will someone please remind the Right that the President and his administration doesn’t deal with hypotheticals.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:13 pmSPEAK ABOUT PROPAGANDA LISTEN TO THIS
HA HA HA FUNNY
The New york times tells of suicide Martyrdom Videos WELL THIS WAS THE TRUTH
A London defense lawyer for a 17-year-old suspect who cannot be named told the newspaper police had misconstrued evidence when they charged her client with “possession of items that would be of use to terrorism.”
Gareth Peirce criticized police for calling documents found in the youth’s home “suicide notes” signed by other young Muslim men preparing to die.
“They’re not suicide notes at all,” Peirce said. “They’re really simple wills. To call these suicide notes was absolutely disgraceful.”
September 1st, 2006 at 4:13 pmI want to thank the makers of this fine film for pointing out that I personally stopped those terrorists from attacking us on 9/11, and have gone on to spread democracy through the Middle East, and have rid the world of evil.
Now I must return to my brush clearing.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:14 pmAMAZING – the sheeples that make up a mere 30% of this country have the AUDICITY TO BE SO DAMN ARROGANT!
September 1st, 2006 at 4:15 pmMr. Knight , with all due respect Michael Moore’s 9/11 film was more of an editorial than a documentary. You don’t use music, especially by the GO-Gos to illustrate a point about carnage.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:16 pmAUDICITY – AUDACITY
September 1st, 2006 at 4:16 pm#24. Hey there tighty whitey. Seems you trashed people you don’t agree with in your post.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:21 pmI still meet alot of good ole boy Texans who liked and still like Clinton. Having said that I think Bush’s policies will eventually catch up and noone will be looking at Clinton anymore. We all know who was in charge when we were attacked. And when Katrina hit.
There is only one person’s opinion that I care about and it’s Michael Scheuer’s.
http://www.harpers.org/sb-seven-michael-scheuer-1156277744.html
Time will catch up with Bush. Time the Avenger.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:21 pmPeople I know are planning to boycott this docudrama. Other than backfiring on the GOP it’s a total waste of time. In case they haven’t noticed: BILL CLINTON IS NOT IN OFFICE (although most of this country wishes he was!). BTW, WHO is running it now?
September 1st, 2006 at 4:21 pmmighty aphrodite sez:
We are aiming it at those who are at war with America, MA. We’re aiming it at those who would see our Constitution ground into the dirt and our democratic way of life replaced with authoritarianism and dictatorship. We’re aiming it at the fascists…not the phony ‘Islamofascists’, byt the real ones…the ones who have poisoned this nation from within….the fascists for which you have willingly sacrificed your dignity and integrity.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:21 pmI think those who are upset that failures of the Clinton presidency might be exposed should probably just not watch the progam.
KS
September 1st, 2006 at 4:21 pmwhat do the 9/11 families think or say about this? i wonder…
September 1st, 2006 at 4:24 pmsuggie sez:
Well, I’ll be watching it…how else am I to refute its poisonous lies?
I like a wasp in a tent a lot better if I can see it.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:24 pmmighty-
September 1st, 2006 at 4:27 pmOnce again, instead of going to Iraq and fighting for what she believes in she’s in here. How tired…
So is there any lie at all for which this monstrosity of an Administration will ever be held accountable?
Bueller?
September 1st, 2006 at 4:28 pmI really think it’s funny that our friends on the right say that the main stream media has a liberal bias, but Fox News claims to be America’s #1 news source.
Explain that one?
I guess as Stephen Colbert said, “Reality has a well known liberal bias.â€
September 1st, 2006 at 4:30 pm39
All of it and more.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:31 pmI look at this guy and only one word comes to mind:
Zoolander
I wonder if he can turn left…?
September 1st, 2006 at 4:32 pmglobal warming is the real threat to western civilization yet the world acts like it doesnt exist, or wishes it didnt. instead it runs in fear and spends billions fighting the shadows of the almighty, all powerful “islamo fascists” that are so powerful they control no govts (but bandar bush’s best buds’ govt. in saudi arabia) and live in caves.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:35 pmYes, the real enemy is Barbra Streisand. George Bush is not responsible for his own failed policies, Barbra Streisand is. I think I got it now. Thank you.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:36 pmA review today in Salon.com says the film paints Clinton “as a buffoon more interested in blow jobs than terrorists.â€
Well, then, Im a buffoon, too. :)
September 1st, 2006 at 4:37 pmSurely Hollywood and the liberal media will be hailed by the neocons as a great source of truth after the showing of this show.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:37 pmYou libs made me sit through Fahrenheit 9/11 and told me to shut up, not disagree with it and obey your master Moore.
Comment by coachjason
Ok, do that again. Shut up.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:39 pmThey advertise it as “Based on the 9/11 Commission Report”, but the 9/11 Commission found absolutely no true to the allegation that Clinton was offered bin Laden. So where does the “based upon” part come in? Maybe “loosely based upon“…
September 1st, 2006 at 4:40 pmYou libs made me sit through Fahrenheit 9/11 and told me to shut up, not disagree with it and obey your master Moore.
Comment by coachjason
Waaahhh…..shut up. No one can make you do anything you don’t want to do, Coach. Deal with it.
Hi Juan, I’m here to collect my hug. :)
September 1st, 2006 at 4:42 pm#25 – you mean ‘trashing those’ the same as rummy – calling 60pct of the nation treasonous appeasers? We are just mostly anonymous bloggers – rummy is running the world’s most dangerous attack dog.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:43 pmYou don’t use music, especially by the GO-Gos to illustrate a point about carnage.
Comment by the fly-man — September 1, 2006 @ 4:16 pm
He did. And guess what? Best documentary in history.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:44 pm#50
September 1st, 2006 at 4:46 pmRummy. The new McCarthy for our generation. Accuse with no facts, slander and hate while betraying the country you swore to protect and serve.
Hi Juan, I’m here to collect my hug. :)
Comment by Zooey — September 1, 2006 @ 4:42 pm
OH, you just watered my eyes.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:47 pmZoolander…hehe. THat was good. :)
.40 I really think it’s funny that our friends on the right say that the main stream media has a liberal bias, but Fox News claims to be America’s #1 news source.
Explain that one?
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I’m not sure what you’re confused about, 40 – the MSMs liberal bias or Fox news being number 1? Or both?
First by way of a quick object lesson-example, think Rathergate and the phony memos.
Second, Fox is the most watched news – at least on cable & sat. That makes them “Number 1″ in the ratings. The reason for their success is most liekly due to Americans dislike of the liberal & already dying MSM. On Fox they can catch the liberal cryers & complainers along with the solid, steady just-the-facts hard news, i.e. balance.
KS
September 1st, 2006 at 4:50 pmHere’s the rest, Juan:
Blue Steel!? Ferrari!? La Tigra!? They’re all the same look!
((((hug))))
September 1st, 2006 at 4:50 pmCyrus Nowrasteh and the Baby Bush administration hopes you do not question the gag order placed upon firefighters and policemen who were at the 9/11 NYC scene. Why that…….?
September 1st, 2006 at 4:52 pmWhat to hide? Hmmmmmmmmmmm………… We need a new full and clean investidation NOW!
“You’re really too precious”…..this sounds like Gollum in “The Lord of the Rings.” Gives me the creeps.
September 1st, 2006 at 4:53 pm#55. Perhaps Fox is number one because it is sensationalist infotainment, which of course will get great ratings. Real journalism is boring, don’t ya know? Plus that 25% of us that are authoritarian lemmings get to see their prejudices and worldview validated every day on Fox. Sorry Karen, but Fox viewers (according to polling) are very misinformed.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:04 pm((((hug))))
September 1st, 2006 at 5:06 pmComment by Zooey — September 1, 2006 @ 4:50 pm
:) You sounded depressed last night. Are you OK? So what about this guy? Another patriotic film for patriotic/consumer lovers?
Don’t you see, the mainstream media is now siding with the Republicans, because netroot activists scare the hell out of them. Can you say:
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Bwah, hah, hah, haaaaaaaa……
September 1st, 2006 at 5:07 pmOn Fox they can catch the liberal cryers & complainers along with the solid, steady just-the-facts hard news, i.e. balance.
KS
Comment by Karen Schell — September 1, 2006 @ 4:50 pm
You forgot the “/sarcasm”.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:08 pmthe more germane docudrama is airing right now on HBO entitled: THE DAY THE LEVEES BROKE…CHAPTERS 1-4. This is something we can directly attribute to him and his watch – FAILURE – of the largest magnitude.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:12 pm“Former ABC News anchor John Miller, now the FBI’s Assistant Director of Public Affairs, was also a consultant on the project. His book, The Cell, co-authored with Michael Stone, was optioned by ABC for use in the teleplay. In addition, The Relentless Pursuit by Samuel Katz was also optioned.
The Path to 9/11 is executive-produced by Marc Platt (Empire Falls). The producers are Hans Proppe (Anne Frank) and Cyrus Nowrasteh (also the writer); and Governor Thomas H. Kean (Chair, The 9/11 Commission) is senior consultant. The director is David L. Cunningham. The miniseries is a production of UHP Productions, Ltd., and will be distributed by Touchstone Television”
Seems like it’s been pretty well-researched and vetted by some experts.
Let it go, TP.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:13 pmi’m sure there’s some relavent 9/11 information with this:
Lie by Lie: Chronicle of a War Foretold: August 1990 to March 2003
September 1st, 2006 at 5:14 pmhttp://www.motherjones.com/bush_war_timeline/index.html
Every president has failures – let’s face it. Frankly, I don’t care what a President does with his private life; it’s what he does to everyone in this country who have to foot the bill that matters most to everyone.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:15 pmThanks for the Mother Jones url, Katy. I’t fabulous and doesn’t miss a single lie! Every american needs to read it. Furthermore, interesting that since the focus will be on 9/11 soon as the anniversary draws near and the questions about the “911 truth” will surface, the neocons are attempting to divert the discussion. They keep going back to the same old dirty well but the well’s gone dry this time.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:16 pm62. On Fox they can catch the liberal cryers & complainers along with the solid, steady just-the-facts hard news, i.e. balance.
KS
Comment by Karen Schell — September 1, 2006 @ 4:50 pm
You forgot the “/sarcasmâ€.
Comment by Juan C ———
Juan – I wasn’t being sarcastic!
I think even the liberal MSM is finally realizing their tired old act is driving viewers away. Their solution: bring in the Katie Courics. Now THAT will drive even hardcore leftist viewers to Fox!
KS
September 1st, 2006 at 5:17 pm#55 – It’s called sarcasm Karen you should try it sometime.
I think you are the one that doesn’t get it. I am pointing out the contradiction that Fox News claims that they are the #1 news source in America, hence they are the “main stream media.†Get it now?
If Fox News is as you pointed out “America’s #1 News Source†then that must obviously mean that the main stream media in fact has a RIGHT WING BIAS. :>)
Cheers!
September 1st, 2006 at 5:19 pmI think Jason you might have drooled all down your shirt…try to stay on topic, or piss off.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:20 pmIt looks like it’s time for another massive campaign similar to what was done when Sinclair wanted to air the anti-Kerry documentary. This BS is unacceptable.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:20 pmAmerica’s Least Wanted
The failed Bush/GOP/neocon policies aren’t the fault of Michael Moore, The Dixie Chicks, or the Democrats. Those who voted “Republican” got the neocon agenda shoved right down their throats and blaming Michael Moore ain’t gonna make failed policy successful. It should be clear by now the neocon is in no way, shape, or form “conservative.”
September 1st, 2006 at 5:23 pm#68
Um, Karen….
Juan’s “You forgot the “/sarcasm”"
was a sarcastic remark…
September 1st, 2006 at 5:23 pmComment by mighty aphrodite — August 29, 2006 @ 4:30 pm
OK. It’s later. I’ve finished reading Judge Taylor’s ruling. Time to show us your “legal†skills, Mighty aFraudite. What would be the grounds for overturning the opinion? What will be the judicial standard applied in reviewing the case? What were her errors? Cite her ruling, by page number.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — August 31, 2006 @ 9:51 pm
September 1st, 2006 at 5:24 pm#74 – Briseadh na Faire,
Heh. I wish you good luck on that one…
September 1st, 2006 at 5:27 pmComment by Exley — September 1, 2006 @ 5:13 pm
And if some experts laid the blame entirely upon Bush, would that suffice your quest for the truth?
I say, let the film makers cite their sources for every factual allegation they make. Michael Moore did that on his website. Surely those who support President Bush can do the same.
And for those who do wish to boycott, I remind you that ABC is owned by Disney. Boycott the Mouse! Imagine, if you will, the ramifications if everyone who disagreed with this Administration stopped going to Disneyland!
September 1st, 2006 at 5:29 pmThis blame game says more about Bush than it does about Clinton and most of America will be able to see this.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:30 pmYou sounded depressed last night. Are you OK? So what about this guy? Another patriotic film for patriotic/consumer lovers?
Comment by Juan C
I’m fine. Just tired and frustrated last night. This guy? Zoolander? Well, he’s a whore, my dear. If he had a good name, he’s sold it to the highest bidder. The sheeple will turn out in droves to remember 9/11 just the way it happened. *sigh*
September 1st, 2006 at 5:30 pm#8 coachjason
Wait a minute… not fair. You libs made me sit through Fahrenheit 9/11 and told me to shut up, not disagree with it and obey your master Moore. So now, just watch this show, you might learn something. If not, then you can just come back here and bash republicans some more.
1. Who made you sit throught that movie?
2. Who told you to shut up?
3. Who considers Moore to be their master?
Don’t be stupid, okay? I don’t care if they show the movie as long as they don’t try to stifle members of the Clinton administration or members of the 9/11 Commission or members of the intelligence community who just might want to step forward and point out some inaccuracies in it. If it turns out to be factual and it makes Clinton look bad, then fair enough. Unlike the extreme right, I like to see the truth come out.
And, as for Fahrenheit 9/11, I’m still waiting for any of its right-wing critics to give one specific example of what they say are lies in that movie. I heard a lot of righties saying “It’s all lies” and then admitting that they didn’t even see the movie.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:31 pm#74. don’t expect much of an answer on that one. Tighty Whitey hasn’t been feeling that well lately.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:32 pmHi Juan, I’m here to collect my hug. :)
Comment by Zooey — September 1, 2006 @ 4:42 pm
OH, you just watered my eyes.
Zoolander…hehe. THat was good. :)
Comment by Juan C — September 1, 2006 @ 4:47 pm
OK. I see how it is…I go away for a night or two… (sniff)
Hi all.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:32 pmI sent my complaint to ABC, but don’t really know if it’ll help.
Maybe they need a few thousand more to flood their mailbox.
He is a conservative, O Really!!!???
September 1st, 2006 at 5:45 pmThere is nothing these Rednuts can do to change the fact that 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch.
They keep spending millions and millions of dollars (much of it syphoned of us taxpayers) to re-write history, but NOTHING changes the fact that Bush ignored the warnings before 9/11
Bush was caught with his pants down on 9/11, and the reason he talks such a big talk is because he knows he let America down
Bush sent two CIA agents away when then disturbed his vacation with a warning that Bin Laden wat plotting an attack on the US.
They can try all they want. They can spend all the money they want. But nothing will change this. Nothing.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:45 pmSweet! She may be an asshole, but she’s a looker!
September 1st, 2006 at 5:47 pmhttp://www.mighty-aphrodite.co.uk
The ruling on illegal wiretapping will survive to be fought in the Supreme Court, and it will be ubpheld for one simple reason: no amount of legal waffling by Alberto Gonzales will change the fact that eavesdropping on innocent Americans FAILS the BULLSHIT TEST
You don’t need a degree in law to smell a turd.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:48 pmOK. I see how it is…I go away for a night or two… (sniff)
Comment by trueblue
I’ll use the same line I used on Zoo Jr, don’t even think of pulling that crap!
What can I say, true? Juan’s a hottie.
I sent in my complaint, too. I’ll just have to watch Lost on DVD…
September 1st, 2006 at 5:48 pmI like how Nowrasteh refers to himself as “Persian.” His wingnut base probably wouldn’t be as acceptive of him if he called himself Iranian, which is what he is.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:52 pmI’m not sure if the blame game is right for 9/11. Terrorism plots are hard to crack, they only need to get it right once and they got it right on that day. To put some context around that, most of the people I know in the UK don’t blame our government for failing to stop the 7/7 tube bombings – the debate on whether the Iraq war was a root cause is something for another board I feel.
It’s bloody hard task for the security forces and it’s got to be about lessons learnt rather than who was responsible. We learnt the hard way during the troubles and are still learning. Does blaming the government – whoever is heading it up – help? I’d say no.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:52 pmShut up Dave, you are suffering from “blindly trust the leader” sydrome. You need a psychiatrist.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:57 pmUK BristolDave,
Difference is, Bush had warnings. Lots of warnings, which he ignored.
This could have been stopped. Plus, there are a lot of unanswered questions that point to some level of gvt. complicity.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:58 pmOK. I see how it is…I go away for a night or two… (sniff)
Comment by trueblue — September 1, 2006 @ 5:32 pm
:) Hi, true. I will write you later. I have to know what happens today when Fox will give his last presidential speech (I dont know the right word for that: Its a speech where he offers numbers and talks about how good or bad was this year´s administration. In spanish is INFORME)
September 1st, 2006 at 5:58 pmYou are the sweetie, true.
I think we should write CBS and ask them to show Farenheit 911 at the same time as ABC is showing this propaganda film.
September 1st, 2006 at 5:58 pmZooey,
I bet your kids didn’t get away with much. ;)
September 1st, 2006 at 5:59 pmWhat can I say, true? Juan’s a hottie.
Comment by Zooey — September 1, 2006 @ 5:48 pm
Ok, Zoo, how much do I owe you? :)
September 1st, 2006 at 6:01 pmHave to go, see you later. Take care, you both.
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September 1st, 2006 at 6:01 pmGreat Idea, Worfeus!!!!
September 1st, 2006 at 6:01 pmSweet! She may be an asshole, but she’s a looker!
http://www.mighty-aphrodite.co.uk
Comment by RobG — September 1, 2006 @ 5:47 pm
Ha! Sorry, I had to look.
September 1st, 2006 at 6:02 pmDamn! So did I!
Now everythime she posts, I’m going to have that image in my head!
Zoo, Have any Brillo pads left?
September 1st, 2006 at 6:05 pm89#
OK, I was trying to be civil. I won’t bother and in the future just start questioning the sanity of someone who is asking a question.
90#
Thanks for coming back to me. I remember reading somewhere that a specific warning paper hit the Governments desk about extremists wanting to fly planes into the building. Is that what you are referring to?
September 1st, 2006 at 6:07 pmI like how Nowrasteh refers to himself as “Persian.†His wingnut base probably wouldn’t be as acceptive of him if he called himself Iranian, which is what he is.
Comment by cosmosis
Is he? Or was that a joke I didn’t get?
September 1st, 2006 at 6:09 pmDo you have a link?
Zoo, Have any Brillo pads left?
Comment by trueblue
Yes, I do. They are winging your way…
Re the alleged MA pics — I must say I feel sorry for the under-developed. My boobs looked better than that when I was 12. Just sayin’
September 1st, 2006 at 6:11 pmNowrasteh conveniently forgets that bin Laden is still on the loose which is entirely due to Bushco.
September 1st, 2006 at 6:12 pmApparently two months before the election is the time for the official “blame game” to begin.
-GSD
September 1st, 2006 at 6:12 pmIn Republican World Bill Clinton was responsible for the Wolrd Trade Center attack that happened a month into his presidency in 1993 because it happened on Bill Clinton’s “watch”.
Bill Clinton is also responsible for the 9/11 attacks that happened 9 months into George W. Bush’s Presidency because Clinton should have done something to prevent the attacks.
It’s always a win/win world in the Bush/Coulter Republican Mind.
-GSD
September 1st, 2006 at 6:15 pmukdave – all the signals were there in 2001. they did nothing. in 1999, the millenium bomb was foiled because the clinton admin reacted by ’shaking the trees’ of all the law enforcement agencies. so yes, how an admin responds is important. the anger you read here is caused by that and by the bushevik’s subsequent attempt to cover-up or smear anyone who told them ‘i told you so’ in 2001.
and I looked at ma too – not wise in an airport departure lounge.
September 1st, 2006 at 6:15 pmUKBristolDave,
That and more. There were numerous warning, much like that one.
There was a CIA agent (I think CIA) who went directly to him because he was so concerned. Pres told him, “OK. You’ve done it. You’ve covered your ass.” What kind of idiotic response is that?
Plus all the questions.
I didn’t want to be a conspiracy theorist, but after having so many unanswered questions and just strange coincidences, I have to admit I’m on the “Gvt. had something to do with our worst US tragedy” camp.
September 1st, 2006 at 6:16 pmi’d love to hear what the rating are for this.
September 1st, 2006 at 6:16 pmand I looked at ma too – not wise in an airport departure lounge.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
HA! Funny!
September 1st, 2006 at 6:20 pmIs that where you are right now?
Thanks for the brillo, Zooey.
I will apply liberally everytime I see MA’s posts.
(actually, I envy the smaller ones. I’m 40 now. It aint so pretty, anymore!) ;)
September 1st, 2006 at 6:22 pm#108 yes true – the turtle blogs from the C terminal of the airport located in ‘Nuremberg-on-the-san-jacinto’ this fine evening…you can never look at enough porn on your pc in a crowd of fellow passengers….i need that privacy filter damnit
September 1st, 2006 at 6:27 pm105 & 106
With all that in mind, I think the very worst was pure incompetence. For a Government to perform such a crime against its own people would require the mother of all coverups. I don’t think it could happen, especially considering how much US agencies seem to leak – reference to the arrests of suspected bombers in the UK. I’m sure I saw a thread on thinkprogress about this. If not, let me know and I’ll tell you the perspective from the UK. Apparently our security agencies are fuming.
September 1st, 2006 at 6:29 pmsince boobs came up…ukdave is it true what I hear about Bristol?
September 1st, 2006 at 6:31 pmI am interested in the UK perspective.
September 1st, 2006 at 6:36 pmWhat’s the word there?
ukdave – the suspicions range from incompetence to wilful ignorance to deliberate plot. for me I hold with wilful ignorance caused by ideology. if you want to pursue this find your way to the ‘project for the old american century’ website and research their analysis of the ‘project for a new american century’. it reads as the American Mein Kampf. takw careful care to look at the names of the people who have signed it. make sure you Google the phrase ‘new pearl harbor’ (excuse the lost u).
September 1st, 2006 at 6:36 pmLOL, Terry the Turtle!
You’re getting ready to board a plane to God-knows-where, and here you are talking “boobs” on TP?
Thanks for the laugh of my evening!!!
September 1st, 2006 at 6:37 pmRob started it – now I’m the ‘pervert in seat 6a’……ah well. looking on the bright side I’m leaving houston behind for saner parts…doors are shut time to turn off the treo. good night and good luck.
September 1st, 2006 at 6:45 pmTerry the Turtle
What you hear about “Bristol Citys” is spot on. Also the name of the Football (sorry, soccer) team I follow. I’m sure you can guess some of the chants we get at away matches…
Trueblue
the word in the UK is that the security forces were all over these alleged plotters and looking to see what they could learn. Apparently, when the information was shared with US security forces, they started dropping massive hints that something was happening. Therefore, the UK had to move and arrest before the suspects got spooked, ruining the information gathering opp we had.
If that’s right, what happened was a disgrace. The “War on terror” isn’t about invading countries that aren’t a threat. It’s about intelligence gathering.
September 1st, 2006 at 6:46 pmukdave – the ‘pnac’ lays out in cold terms what the war on terror is about and everything the us does is designed for us domestic opinion – sorry to say but the brits are george bush’s fig leaf – nothing more.
September 1st, 2006 at 6:50 pm“The “War on terror†isn’t about invading countries that aren’t a threat. It’s about intelligence gathering.”
UKBristolDave, this seems obvious but apparantly not so for the lovers of PNAC and fear mongering NeoCons.
September 1st, 2006 at 6:53 pmAlright Zooey, you are tall and well, apparently quite um, developed. And really smart, funny etc. So when do I get to visit you?
September 1st, 2006 at 6:53 pm#111
pure incompetence, must be feeling ‘nice’ today. come on. besides the fact that he sat reading the kids about a pet goat he also let ‘hijacked’ planes fly in the no fly zone and circle our skies doing f-16 maneuvers for over 45 min WITHOUT dispatching any interceptors (jets). now that is complete derelicition of duty. so that must have been just incompetence. so, everything regarding 9/11, katrina, economy, enviorment, must be incompetence. so why do they pick and choose what is going to be aired. and when something is found out to be incriminating they take it off the air or put it in a secret holding spot just hoping the public will not find it. that must be what they did with the missile hitting the pentagon(big blue tarp and all the tapes over 20 something if i heard right that was focused on the pentagon. only 2 were shown. and when the missile hit the pentagon it just so hit the only side that was renovated to be made stronger. and if the so called plane was a transatlantic flight why didn’t it blow up into a fireball and burn like the wtc. the evidence is out there. between that, history(the players in the whitehouse and who they represent) and some common sense will tell you that this was in fact the worst state sponsored terror attack on american soil.
September 1st, 2006 at 6:59 pmSo when do I get to visit you?
Comment by For Truth
*fanning face & neck*
My sweet thing, you can visit anytime…
Will Mrs For Truth be accompanying you? I’ll fix up the guest room…
September 1st, 2006 at 7:07 pmFor a Government to perform such a crime against its own people would require the mother of all coverups.
Comment by UKBristolDave
Come to Latinamerica, buddy, and you will see how easy it is with some US support and communist-eating-babies threats.
September 1st, 2006 at 7:12 pmPlease read and sign this petition to keep ABC from airing this piece of propagandized bull sh*t. Spread the word to your smart friends to sign it as well.
http://www.petitiononline.com/dearabc/petition.html...
September 1st, 2006 at 7:12 pmGot them a fixed election, didn’t it, Juan!
So, did Fox drop off his “State Address” and speed away?
September 1st, 2006 at 7:13 pmZooey and trublue, I had to check it out also, guess what ? I’M 65 and my boobs look better than that now…..LOL
MA and all reich wingers, I accept you’re challenge…..Let’s demand equal showing of all these movies or none.Period…Michael Moor’s movie, this one and the killing of a president I heard about today. …..What say you.? Call the net work’s and demand equal time or tell them you will boycott and call their sponsers….Oh and while I am at it Fox suck’s and is no way #1..I don’t watch it so know it’s no good….Willing to bet no reich winger is up for that, yes I will watch so I have a right to bitch if need be after..
Parting shot this guy looks like a snake to me…..Whats wrong with his eyes.? are they crossed or is he a snake in disguise……..Blessings, we need them…Peace to the world, just as soon as we get this bunch out of office…
September 1st, 2006 at 7:15 pmThe “War on terror†isn’t about invading countries that aren’t a threat. It’s about intelligence gathering.
Comment by UKBristolDave — September 1, 2006 @ 6:46 pm
Nice words for describing what it really is: Profits. I would like to see UK and US engaging against China, Russia, India, North Korea, Pakistan…see a pattern? They all have nukes. US and UK are wimps, but very tough on East Timor!
September 1st, 2006 at 7:16 pmSharon,
either I’m going to have to look again, and more closely (eww)
or look up a good plastic surgeon!!!!
September 1st, 2006 at 7:17 pmIt doesn’t matter much since bin laden wasn’t the matermind behind the terror plot. How did Bush not know how to find him when he got into office, being that his and the bin laden family where in bed together. Money talks when it comes to making abc specials. ABC Already is backing off calling this an accurate account. Let’s boycott the MF’s
September 1st, 2006 at 7:19 pmSo, did Fox drop off his “State Address†and speed away?
Comment by trueblue — September 1, 2006 @ 7:13 pm
Wow! You know as much as I do, true.
September 1st, 2006 at 7:21 pmFixed election? Thats called democracy here. In about an hour or so we will know if he personally addresses or not. Whatever, I couldnt care less for what that mexican, ignorant peasant has to say. He is a disgrace. During his administration 4 million people leave this country to US in order to get something to eat. But, we will have to wait to see what happens after the Electoral Court put Calderon on power. (Cause thats what will happen)
Let’s demand equal showing of all these movies or none.
Comment by Sharon
I would like to see the tapes of the “plane” crashing the Pentagon.
I’M 65 and my boobs look better than that now…..LOL
I would like to see that, too.
(Im sorry but it was in front of my face)
September 1st, 2006 at 7:24 pmor so you hope, Juan…. ;)
(just a little Friday night snark!)
September 1st, 2006 at 7:25 pmIs this petition being sent throughout the blogosphere?
September 1st, 2006 at 7:27 pmWe need to flood ABC with letters and email protesting this film. Or demand they show Michael Moore’s movie for fair air time.
September 1st, 2006 at 7:27 pmZooey,
Yeah, I better bring my wife, or she might get upset or somthing ;)
September 1st, 2006 at 7:29 pmor so you hope, Juan…. ;)
Comment by trueblue — September 1, 2006 @ 7:25 pm
Ha! I just realized that. What a dumbass!
September 1st, 2006 at 7:30 pmJuan C
I agree. The only way to be safe in the “War on Terror” is to actually have WMD. The US and the UK have started a arms race which is unprecedented in it’s scope. Believe me, I don’t back this sh1t.
The worrying thing is that the (informed) population know about the Latin American disgraces and seem to ignore it. This is still why I think 9/11 isn’t a cover up. Enough free press still covers this stuff. Yes Bush robbed Florida. Yes he robbed Ohio 4 years later. I just don’t think it’s possible to have done 9/11 and covered it up.
Drifted well off the point there. Sorry.
September 1st, 2006 at 7:31 pmFor Truth,
You’re the sweetest…
:-)
September 1st, 2006 at 7:35 pmOff topic;
Did you guys see these photos of Gannon [Johnny Gosch] male prostitute and Shill reporter? Now remember that Gannon is the name of a newspaper editor and Gannon was a newspaper boy at the time.
http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.clickondetroit.com%2Fnews%2F9778102%2Fdetail.html%23
==
This guy looks like, Nastrashwer, deosn’t look like someone Rush would be friends with..He must be in it for the money.
September 1st, 2006 at 7:36 pmThe only way to be safe in the “War on Terror†is to actually have WMD.Comment by UKBristolDave — September 1, 2006 @ 7:31 pm
Wrong. The safest countries in the world do not own WMD´s. Thats a lie brought out by your fear.
I just don’t think it’s possible to have done 9/11 and covered it up.
September 1st, 2006 at 7:38 pmThat doesnt mean it didnt happen that way. Feelings get in the way of reason. Im not sure it was an inside job, (I believe it was, which is different) but it sure helped Bush government and all totalitarian regimes a lot!
That doesnt mean it didnt happen that way. Feelings get in the way of reason. Im not sure it was an inside job, (I believe it was, which is different) but it sure helped Bush government and all totalitarian regimes a lot!
Comment by Juan C — September 1, 2006
If one takes a gander back thru revised history we see many examples where many a government has fomented war, usually with the help of the media.
September 1st, 2006 at 7:42 pmHitler and the Reichstag
Spanish war and Hearst
Vietnam bay of Gulf of Tonkin
Pearl Harbor and WWII
Bush and Yellowcake
Juan C
I was referring to countries safe from US military action when making the WMD comment. Can you expand on your response please? I am interested by your understanding of the position.
Cheers
September 1st, 2006 at 7:43 pmOk, Zooey, Trueblue, and Sharon, I’ll say the same thing to you I say to other posters who make unsubstantiated statements of fact: post the links!
September 1st, 2006 at 7:51 pmI was referring to countries safe from US military action when making the WMD comment.
Comment by UKBristolDave — September 1, 2006 @ 7:43 pm
Oh, Im sorry. Eventhough US is the actual military superpower, it will never engage a country with nukes. See, as dumb as some US actions seem, they have calculated Iraq situation pretty well. They have the oil, the future contracts to rebuild Iraq, another base in the region, etc. It will never happen that way with China, for example. These guys (Bush Jr. not included) know exactly what they are doing.
So soldiers are dying, well, its a war. So iraqis are dying by the hundreds, well, iraq…what?
Which is your soccer team? Im from Argentina and I love the Premier League. I hope to see Tevez soon. Cheers to you.
September 1st, 2006 at 7:54 pmOk, Zooey, Trueblue, and Sharon, I’ll say the same thing to you I say to other posters who make unsubstantiated statements of fact: post the links!
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Didn’t you see the links? Oops, TP must have deleted them…oh heck….
;)
September 1st, 2006 at 8:00 pmwe see many examples where many a government has fomented war, usually with the help of the media. Comment by Trinary Suka
I would go further. Every war initiated by unjust causes.
September 1st, 2006 at 8:02 pmDidn’t you see the links? Oops, TP must have deleted them…oh heck….
;)
Comment by Zooey — September 1, 2006 @ 8:00 pm
I think he refers to MIghty´s boobs link. :P
September 1st, 2006 at 8:03 pmJuan C
I’m Bristol City mate. We’re league one, two divisions down from the premiership. I follow two teams in the premiership, Reading and West Ham. I keep an eye on Reading as a old Bristol City player, Leroy Lita, plays up front for them. I lived in London for three years and went to see West Ham Utd quite a bit as well. I hate both Man Utd and Chelsea as does every real Football fan.
I have to admit all I know about Argentina football is River Plate and Boca Juniors. I’d cut my right arm off to go and see a match between those two.
Tell me about Tevez. What’s the team like?
September 1st, 2006 at 8:03 pm147,
Mighty boob…I mean aFraudite doesnt give links. Fortunately, the above Mighty-Aphrodite link was to a UK site, and Mighty aFraudite is in San Diego. The one in the UK is a sight for sore eyes. The one in San Diego makes one’s eyesight sore.
———–
Zooey, you do seem to have a knack for posting things that get deleted.
September 1st, 2006 at 8:14 pmTell me about Tevez. What’s the team like?
Comment by UKBristolDave — September 1, 2006 @ 8:03 pm
No, he is an argentinian player who will be playing now for the West Ham Utd. Check him out next Sunday at Arsenal´s new Emirates stadium against Brazil. I am hoping to see him in a stronger and faster football like the Premier.
I hate both Man Utd and Chelsea as does every real Football fan.
September 1st, 2006 at 8:18 pmHa! I follow a small, poor team here in Mexico (I live here): Atlante. Im used to suffer a lot of deceptions, but when we were champions, it tasted thousand times better than any big club´s championship.
Thank you Zooey!
I can look at the menu as long as I go home for dinner :p
Flirting is fun too!
Now what would you post that would be deleted?
September 1st, 2006 at 8:22 pmZooey, you do seem to have a knack for posting things that get deleted.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
It’s become a bit of a hobby in Zooeyland.
Post a comment with the f-word in it or a disgusting description of Barbara Bush, and see how fast it’s gone! Poof!
Quite satisfying actually…
September 1st, 2006 at 8:24 pmI think he refers to MIghty´s boobs link. :P
Comment by Juan C
No Juan, he really wants to see Sharon, true and my boobs. Men…
:)
September 1st, 2006 at 8:25 pmFlirting is fun too!
I live for it…
Now what would you post that would be deleted?
Comment by For Truth
I’d give you examples, but they’ve all been deleted, sad to say. The one thing I thought was so disgusting, and thought would be deleted immediately, was when I called Katherine Harris the State Cum Dumpster.
Maybe TP agrees with that assessment…
September 1st, 2006 at 8:28 pmThe deletion countdown begins…..NOW!
September 1st, 2006 at 8:30 pmSorry BnF…The link’s are to small to fit a pair of 40D’s and the owner is to shy to show off a shot…..LOL….Ofcourse the rest of the chasse is in need of repair but what the hay we all have one good thing we can brag about….Blessings all…Gotta walk the bear….
September 1st, 2006 at 8:32 pmNo Juan, he really wants to see Sharon, true and my boobs. Men…
:)
Comment by Zooey — September 1, 2006 @ 8:25 pm
So theres a link for those too?! Post it on! ;)
September 1st, 2006 at 8:32 pmwas when I called Katherine Harris the State Cum Dumpster.
Maybe TP agrees with that assessment…
Comment by Zooey — September 1, 2006 @ 8:28 pm
Yeah I saw that, I was LOL about it.
Whew that link, geez, I was at work, Whoops.
September 1st, 2006 at 8:34 pmWhew that link, geez, I was at work, Whoops.
Comment by For Truth
Yeah, too bad, For Truth & Juan,
We all look like Swedish models.
September 1st, 2006 at 8:37 pmOn the 11th of September, 2001, when I heard on the radio that a second plane struck the World Trade Center, I immediately opened telnet and logged in to the MUD that I used to frequent. A lot of the players there were New Yorkers and I wished to offer my support to them and to follow it as closely as possible, despite being an ocean away.
I have no doubt that the ultimate responsability lies with the hijackers. Even if there’s a money trial back to Osama, it leaves open the possibility that the hijackers contacted Osama with the idea for the attack. Consider also for a moment what difference in impact it would have made if Osama had not released any video’s. In that case it would still be as horrible as it is, but with the video’s come the idea’s of a neatly organized, professional terrorist group that’s able to do the impossible.
Nevertheless, I would gladly hear the facts around the no-fly zone and the lack of interceptors. What seems to me to turn out to be the likely explanation is that no-one (with sufficient ranks to call the shots) anticipated that the planes would be utilized as weapons, as the traditional hijacking usually ends with the plane landing somewhere and negotiations start to get the hostages freed. With fighters close to a hijacked plane and flying above an urban area the last thing you want is anyone of either side getting nervous and doing something that leads to a plane crash.
Because Bush and the neocons are generally sloppy, negligent, incompetent and far too transparent in their war-, fear- & hatemongering to actually plan something like some 9/11, let alone execute it. With Bush sitting in that classroom, staring in disbelief, I was reminded to Stalin’s reaction when he heard that the Germans where invading. He ran off to one of his retreats and took more than a couple of days to be persuaded to lead the USSR through the war. It’s also of note to how devoted Bush is to success in Afghanistan, see how many coalition troops are on the ground there.
As for Clinton, he’s been the only American president during my life-time whom I wouldn’t hesitate to call competent. I know he cannot be reelected, but who cares, let’s have him back!
Nowrasteh will probably paint a picture that’s historically accurate. Or, rather, accurate enough to make it difficult to spot the lie, the spin and the implications for the intended audience. It’s a tasteless part of the hate campaigns revolving around demonizing your opponent rather than by winning on ones own merits. Tsk!
September 1st, 2006 at 8:42 pmProtests by lawmakers force corrupted crony Bush buddy, Vincente Fox, to abandon his Presidential state of the union (country?, whatever) speech.
Do think this will get ugly? Someone said the other day here that Mexicans have more of the American spirit than Americans right now, I have been mulling this.
September 1st, 2006 at 8:47 pm153, Zooey, I was actually trying to be consistent. I have repeatedly called for links when the Reich-Wing posters make statements of fact. I frequently provide links in my posts. Who knows, you might even make it onto Fox News, if you’re “fair and balanced.” And remember, I live in California and am culturally aware that there are women as well, who would be interested in seeing just how you “support” your assertion.
And Sharon, (156) you said a mouthful!
(I hope TP has a sense of humor…otherwise, I’m gonna get banned…)
Have a pleasant evening all, and an enjoyable weekend. I’m off to the Highland games tomorrow, in my kilt!
September 1st, 2006 at 8:49 pmYeah, too bad, For Truth & Juan,
We all look like Swedish models.
Comment by Zooey — September 1, 2006 @ 8:37 pm
Yeah and I look like Fabio, I can’t believe its not butter, *ouch, bird hits face*
September 1st, 2006 at 8:49 pmAnd I look like a Highlander.
September 1st, 2006 at 8:54 pmBecause Bush and the neocons are generally sloppy, negligent, incompetent and far too transparent in their war-, fear- & hatemongering to actually plan something like some 9/11, let alone execute it.
==
The Able Danger program knew of several of the hijackers.
But you won’t hear about that in this trigocomic lie I bet.
September 1st, 2006 at 9:04 pmYeah and I look like Fabio, I can’t believe its not butter, *ouch, bird hits face*
Comment by For Truth
Note to self: Scratch For Truth off the list…bird hit slight improvement…terminal Elmer Fudd voice….Send thank you note.
Have a pleasant evening all, and an enjoyable weekend. I’m off to the Highland games tomorrow, in my kilt!
And I look like a Highlander.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Zooey melts clear into the ground…
September 1st, 2006 at 9:07 pmZooey, you’re the winner of the funniest quote for today..I had not seen you’re dumpster babe item before, and lost it….
Thank’s Bnf and all, have a great week end. It has been a moment of fun.Hope we are not all banned but what the hay it’s happened before…..Good night Juan, good night trublue, good night Zooey, play nicely together and beat up on the trolls……..Blessings…One last note.”Truth in advertising”….LOL
September 1st, 2006 at 9:08 pmBlame them both
Although I despise Bush’s actions as president, I blame Clinton and Bush equally for 911.
The first responsibility of a national leader is to lock down security and then to spread goodwill and happiness so that no one wants to attack your country.
BTW, the so-called War on Terror is a ludicrous, immoral, counterproductive, overreaction to 911.
September 1st, 2006 at 9:09 pm165 comments of wasted breath and energy on this subject.
September 1st, 2006 at 9:17 pmVery simple solution, DON”T WATCH IT!
Zooey,
That is the funniest post!
You get my “best of” vote as well!
September 1st, 2006 at 9:20 pmComment by Martin of Earth — September 1, 2006 @ 9:09 pm
But why not go back to Reagan, and the policies that made Bin Laden what he is today?
Indeed, if you wish, you can go back to the carving up of the Ottoman Empire at the end of WWII and the creation of the State of Israel and blame everyone involved in those diplomatic discussions!
How about going back to Moses, who led the invasion into Israel way back when? Or Abraham, who said God told him the land would belong to his descendants forever? Hmmm…I guess that means you’d have to blame God!
September 1st, 2006 at 9:24 pmThank you guys for treachery!
Comment by Scarface
Anytime…
September 1st, 2006 at 9:26 pmYou get my “best of†vote as well!
September 1st, 2006 at 9:26 pmComment by trueblue — September 1, 2006 @ 9:20 pm
Wrong, true. The funniest of them all is Scarface´s. Im still laughing.
Well, that came after Zooey’s post.
But Zooey’s was still funnier, because she meant it as humor.
September 1st, 2006 at 9:34 pmScarface thought he was being serious. Scarface has zero sense of humor, and that is actually sad. :(
Comment by Scarface
I promise, if you’re in the ICU, not to pull the plug.
September 1st, 2006 at 9:53 pmComment by Scarface — September 1, 2006 @ 9:46 pm
SSShhhh, Scarfie. Go back to bed and try to sleep without fear.
September 1st, 2006 at 9:54 pmWhere do these troll idiots get their arguements?
It’s getting pathetic, really.
Totally juvenile.
September 1st, 2006 at 9:57 pmFunny, scarface!
You don’t even KNOW Juan! (since he is quite into sports, thank-you-very-much.)
Go away.
September 1st, 2006 at 9:59 pmScarface,
I can’t speak for all people on the left, I only speak for myself.
I support all peaceful people, whether they be Muslims, Jews, Christians, etc.
In my world opposition and dissent are good things. They keep our democracy alive.
Your terminology is flawed in that it assumes all Muslims are violent killers, and all on the left would support absolutely anything the right opposes.
Peace.
September 1st, 2006 at 10:01 pmYou don’t even KNOW Juan! (since he is quite into sports, thank-you-very-much.)
Comment by trueblue — September 1, 2006 @ 9:59 pm
True… ;)
September 1st, 2006 at 10:03 pmAh! Another troll…Please come in and join us Scarface..Don’t get mean and start flippin shit that’s not true……Here have a glass of butter milk and a straw, it will help wash down are you’re anger, hate and same old remark’s all you’re comrad’s already said…Say something diffrent…Something new and exciting like where you’re leader is going to bomb next…We on the left would like to know…
By the way Scarface the reich you work for is running scared cause we are out in force getting votes…Maybe this time we will have people in place to make sure the count’s are correct…….You all have a nice evening now, ya hear…One last thing, dump the kool aid, drink the butter milk.
September 1st, 2006 at 10:12 pmSharon,
I’m curious. What’s with the buttermilk and straw?
I mean, other than buttermilk being one of the three most vile substance on Earth.
#1 Marshmallow Fluff
September 1st, 2006 at 10:16 pm#2 Buttermilk
#3 Mayonaise
So Michael Moore is accused of being a liar and a traitor – but this guy is truthful and honest?
September 1st, 2006 at 10:18 pmThis looks to be pure propaganda, but some in the audience will lap it up, and the pimps on Fox, and talk radio will promote it, advertise it, and claim it is gospel.
Fahrenheit 9-11 had to be seen in a theater (paid admissions) no one was forced to see it, nor were they able to see it by chance from their la-z-y boys. This propaganda, absolving Bushie of anything and everything, while blaming Clinton for everything and anything will be on network tv, no cable necessary, no admission ticket, and can be seen by anyone with a tv set.
ABC is owned by Disney. The media is a group of whores. This is corporate America.
Actually, Zooey,
Buttermilk is really good for marinating chicken in.
Moistens it. (no jokes!)
September 1st, 2006 at 10:21 pmAmen, Marie!
September 1st, 2006 at 10:21 pmEverything horrendous seems to occur when Dubya is either on vacation or out of town doing photo ops….hmmmm….no advance notice?? If anyone believes that one I have some prime waterfront property to sell them in Arizona! hah!
September 1st, 2006 at 10:22 pmRe: this docudrama
September 1st, 2006 at 10:24 pmThe people I feel badly for are those who lost loved ones in this disaster while our insensitive administration and right wingnuts try to blow a smokescreen over their flagrant incompetence by transferring blame to someone who was not even in office when it occurred. It’s shameful. This clearly occurred on BUSH’S WATCH and that’s ‘nuf said right there. He totally OWNS it!
Yep!, Zooey. it is disgusting and not possible to suck up with a straw..The good side it is better than Kool aid like Jim Jones served it up with cyanide and butter milk won’t rot you teeth. Course if one’s dead from Kool aid the teeth thing doesn’t matter any way….Blessings…Peace…P.S. it did get rid of Jason once…LOL
September 1st, 2006 at 10:25 pmSharon,
Ah, the all-purpose buttermilk/straw cure for the common troll.
(I was living in the Bay Area when the Jim Jones thing, and the Mayor & City Councilman in SF were murdered — devastating)
True,
You can have my piece of chicken…
September 1st, 2006 at 10:30 pmGood post Marie, I agree….Equal time or no time. You are right they are a bunch of whores. Untill we take it all back, hopefuly this next election, all we can do is protest…..Blessings
September 1st, 2006 at 10:35 pmsuggie,
I’ll go you one more and say it’s an affront to every American, because a “docudrama” intimates that it’s partly true!
That is not the case here.
He’s doing every American, from the victims’ families to the viewing public, a disservice.
“… and the truth shall set you free…”
September 1st, 2006 at 10:35 pmIt is good! Really.
The marinade acts to tenderize the meat.
Then you fry it, or bake it or whatever, of course with whatever spices, and it is yummy!
You’re missing out!
September 1st, 2006 at 10:37 pmZooey, I was living in Hayden Lake, Idaho….2 blocks away from the Nazi compound. Yikes!….Time lines and memories can be a good thing, not in that case but for all those getting ready to vote. Remember well what we have been through these past 5= year’s…Blessings
September 1st, 2006 at 10:41 pmSeptember 1st, 2006 at 10:45 pm
Isn’t John Stossel and 20/20 on ABC? I think I smell a trend there. I think abc stands for All BS and (Republican) Crap.
September 1st, 2006 at 10:47 pmThat was great BnF…..Now I will have to look for one to give a flower to….I’m serious…Are they the folk’s that wear turbins and long robes.?….There is an old fellow I see in town all the time that dresses that way……Blessings
September 1st, 2006 at 10:52 pmLook’s like we hijacked the thread, wahooooo. I’m going nite nite…….Blessings all….Work for Peace……Throw out the chicken and the buttermilk…
September 1st, 2006 at 10:56 pmGoodnight, Sharon…fellow hijacker. :)
September 1st, 2006 at 11:04 pmRemember all the “HELL” the right wing echo machine raised about the Reagan story that was to broadcast on TV. They said it was an unfair presentation on his presidency even though they had never seen it. Time for the Liberal Patriots to demand that this fictional presentation be withdrawn
September 1st, 2006 at 11:22 pmThe only thing I don’t understand about 9/11 is why would they attack NY.
Comment by Scarface
In my opinion, the attack was a symbolic one, against the Twin Towers. Those towers could have been in downtown Everytown, USA, and they would have gone.
People like Osama bin Laden have no use for anyone, except for those like himself. He doesn’t care if the American left supports him or not, which we don’t.
September 1st, 2006 at 11:31 pmScarface,
Asked and answered in #184, it’s the best I can do.
September 1st, 2006 at 11:40 pmScarface either prove that any serious US politician who opposes Bush supports the mullahs or piss off. I think your mom has your warm milk ready.
September 1st, 2006 at 11:57 pm#211 – I agree completely that the US regime needs to be overthrown – see you in the streets Scarface. how will we recognize you? scar on face, brownshirt, what else?
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:00 amIn thinking over the topic of this “docudrama” or hit piece against Clinton while being pro Bush, I always wonder that if everyone wants to blame Clinton, where were the Republicans in control of your House and Senate for the time of Clinton’s presidency? I don’t remember all the republicans being in a flack about terrorism, other than when Clinton bombed Iraq, and he was accused of “wagging the dog” over Lewinsky and Trent Lott stood on cable news and stated that he could support the troops without supporting the President. So, if this gentleman is going to blame Clinton, does not the blame also go hand and hand to Republican lawmakers who did absolutely nothing much for eight years other than figuring out how they could impeach Clinton? Where was their concern over the safety of their country during that time? Seems it is great to look backwards and pass on the blame to the opposing party, all the while absolving yourself of any, but if they want to lay the blame at the feet of Clinton, then the Republican controlled House and Senate should be held accountable as well to the same extent they want to bestow on Clinton.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:00 amScarface,
I condemn all forms of extremism. I support diplomacy. I abhor war.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:01 amas for me – i’m green, four flippers, carry a shell on my back and make a mean molotov.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:04 amcandianvisitor – I think you have discounted americans collective adhd. some of them think they won the vietnam war. btw is that ‘canAdian’ visitor? I visit your fair land next week – keep shipping the soft lumber.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:08 amTerrytheTurtle,
I suppose it’s tricky transporting the molotov?
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:09 amzoo – I’ve mastered a treo, after that molotovs are childs play
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:14 amHave you arrived at your destination, or were you booted off the flight for looking at naughty pictures?
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:18 amI am really upset about this documentary, and I posted a message to ABC.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:21 amScarface,
If anything this country has become feminized and metrosexualized.
You definitely have a problem with women.
I have a Baretta and good aim you Jihadi loser!
You definitely have a problem with men.
That’s a problem for me, Scarface.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:25 amNote to self: Scratch For Truth off the list…bird hit slight improvement…terminal Elmer Fudd voice….Send thank you note.
Comment by Zooey — September 1, 2006 @ 9:07 pm
Glad to have been on the “list” at some point, and what was it I did to be thanked for?
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:26 amWait a minute here. Is this the same guy that drank a bottle of diet coke and ate three mentos?
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:28 amFor Truth,
Only this!
Alright Zooey, you are tall and well, apparently quite um, developed. And really smart, funny etc. So when do I get to visit you?
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:29 amComment by For Truth
Oh high scarface,
Nice to meet you.
Glad to see you’ve given up hope, now your spirit is broken and the leftist brainwashing can commence. Zooey pass the progadanda and torture kit.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:30 amZooey pass the progadanda and torture kit.
Comment by For Truth
Consider it passed…turn it all the way up to eleven.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:32 amAll I have to say is congratulations on winning this round. But we’ll win in the end!
Comment by Scarface — September 2, 2006 @ 12:35 am
What the hell are you talking about, oh wait you must be loony toons, ya know like sssshhhhhh…… I’m hunting wabbits.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:39 amScarface I really don’t see the “beloved figure” in Alajamajihad, or this general consensus in the mainstream, maybe in our moonbat wacko blogs, but thats it.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:44 amScarface,
You will never know.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:44 amThe guy who wrote this 9/11 docudrama is Iranian.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:46 amYou are a hoty and your smart too. A great combo. Any man would be lucky to hook up with you. I can tell your a freak. A night with you must be like being in paradise!
Comment by Scarface — September 2, 2006 @ 12:45 am
Yes too I seem to have had my own instances in this arena.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:48 amFunny you brought up Mike Wallace, I just watched his show this eve, too bad he went out like that, all the Scarfaces can completely discredit all of work now, which is bullshit.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:49 amSorry my typing sucks, its been a couple.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:50 amFor Truth,
What do you think of our charmer, here?
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:52 amScarface, tone it down a notch man, anyway you are a druk Republican how messed up is that.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:53 amZooey see above.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:53 amThanks, For Truth. You are a gentleman.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:56 amAlright honestly, brutal honesty, I have nothing to lose honesty, except maybe Zooey’s approval.
But here goes. I am still a typical guy with the testosterone and well not so typical…well whatever, and anyway I can be a gentlman toward Zooey, which she deserves, but my animal portion of my brain is like, hell yeah Scarface I bet she’s amazing, and all that and a bag of chips.
Ok I have cleansed the soul now.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:58 amActually I am registered independent, or whatever that 3rd box was, its been 6 years since I’ve had to register. But I admit I will vote mostly Dem.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:01 amscarface – you will know if I threaten you – I gave you a choice and you failed to live up to your ego.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:03 amGimme a break Scarfaced drunk Libertarian.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:03 amSo, Truth, where are we meeting this weekend? I picked the place last time, so it’s your turn. I’d like someplace with a really deep tub. You know how I like that.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:07 amlet’s see – idiotic strawman arguments, calling everyone a jihadi and hitting on female posters. scarface you learned your trade on redstate right? we expect a better class of troll on tp.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:07 amThere is a statute of limitations on blaming the actions of past administrations. That time limit is four years, per Ronald Reagan.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:09 amHey, Terry, you can join us, if you’d like. We had fun that time with Schlomo, didn’t we?
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:10 amSo, Truth, where are we meeting this weekend? I picked the place last time, so it’s your turn. I’d like someplace with a really deep tub. You know how I like that.
Comment by Zooey — September 2, 2006 @ 1:07 am
Oh shit this is published on the internets, and I am nervous, wew (ok shes just kidding, its just a joke ha ha). Your too funny!
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:10 amAnd I do actuallly have a hottub, how funny are you!
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:11 amNo, Truth, I’m serious! What do you think? ;)
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:12 amOh good, I think that did it.
Sorry to use you like that, Truth. :}
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:15 amLOL!
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:16 amYou weren’t really worried, were you?
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:17 amNo, Truth, I’m serious! What do you think? ;)
Comment by Zooey — September 2, 2006 @ 1:12 am
Well it depends on what the meaning of “think” is.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:18 amI’m sorry, Truth! I had a feeling that was going to throw you for a minute, but I got tired of that teenie weenie’s insinuations and self-centered pseudo-compliments.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:20 amOk, I let my mind wander a bit, but I figured you were messin around. I am a babe in the woods with certain social sophisications.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:24 amActually, it depends on the meaning of “Truth”!!!
So, Zooey, the Highland games are tomorrow…are ye up fer a Highland “fling?”
;-)
(boy is Judd so gonna delete posts on this thread!!!)
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:27 amI am a babe in the woods with certain social sophisications.
Comment by For Truth
Me too, sometimes. But if I let the weirdos go on long enough, I can usually figure out how to chase them off. Thanks for your kind words, Truth. Yours were complimentary, his were not.
Goodnight!
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:28 amSo, Zooey, the Highland games are tomorrow…are ye up fer a Highland “fling?â€
If you promise to wear your kilt. ;-)
(boy is Judd so gonna delete posts on this thread!!!)
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
I hope he sprains his finger.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:30 amWill Nowrasteh mention Harry Samit in his project?
And Samit’s multiple attempts to alert the FBI to exactly what seemed to be unfolding prior to 9/11?
Will he do a post-mortem on Dave Frasca – one of the “supervisors” who sat of the Phoenix Flight School memo? And the blocked the Minneapolis FBI office request to search Moussaoui’s computer?
Isn’t it interesting how on any given night on TV – you can find a “whatever happened to” show about various sports or entertainment celebrities. “Todd Bridges – child star from “Different Strokes” has put his troubles behind him and is now living the clean life … ” …. ” Singer Carnie Wilson is enjoying a life of fitness and motherhood … ”
What about a “Where is he now” on Dave Frasca?
Maybe Nowrasteh can run after him and hound him like the press hounded Clinton about his indiscretion. That would be an interesting program.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:32 amGoodnight Zooey.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:34 amWell no Bush isn’t a complete waste of a human being, I think he’d be fun to party with, appealing to my childish immature side. He’d have a hell of a ho-down.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:50 amAmerica’s homegrown terrorists are the leftists.I am from India who has seen much more terrorist attacks in our country by Islamofascists.May be Clinton was very busy with stripping and didn’t have the time to think about Osama, and the whole world is experiencing its consequences.Use your sixth sense, selfish left wingers.Try to love your country atleast a bit.
September 2nd, 2006 at 2:19 amFEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR FEAR TERROR
September 2nd, 2006 at 3:19 amJanuary 2001: Outgoing Clinton officials say “The Bush team thinks we’re obsessed with terrorism”:http://contentoverpresentation.blogspot.com/2005/01/history-of-clinton-bush-and-terrorism.html
What did the neocons want? They asked Clinton to do something about IRAQ; The PNAC Paper Trail:
September 2nd, 2006 at 6:11 amhttp://www.uruknet.info/?p=m23024&hd=0&size=1&l=e
Seems I’m getting censored for connecting PNAC to 9/11. Why? It was a good day for their agenda.
Ok then, let’s read some Bush quotes:
“It was an interesting day.” – President Bush, recalling 9/11
“But all in all, it’s been a fabulous year for Laura and me.”
– A fabulous year despite deadliest terrorist attacks in American history; makes one wonder what would constitute a bad year, White House, Dec. 21, 2001
“September the 11th changed me. I remember the day I was in the — at Ground Zero, on September the 4th, 2001. It’s a day I will never forget.”
– The day… maybe not, but the date is an entirely different matter, Lititz, Pennsylvania, Oct. 27, 2004
“All right, you’ve covered your ass”
September 2nd, 2006 at 6:27 am- George W. Bush, 2001
response to “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” briefing.
Neocons everywhere. Well, I’m interested in news AND opinion, but the networks, controlled as they are now by big business and right wing politics, have turned me off. Thank heavens for PBS.
September 2nd, 2006 at 6:38 am9/11 Commission Report : the best FICTION read of 2004!
September 2nd, 2006 at 7:53 amUS air officials had warnings of al-Qaida threat prior to 9/11
“Aviation officials in the US received multiple warnings that al-Qaida could strike through airline hijackings in the months leading up to the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington.
More than 50 warnings about the terror group and its leader, Osama bin Laden, were given to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) between April and September 10 2001, according to documents released by the 9/11 commission that investigated the attacks.
Five of the warnings made reference to al-Qaida’s training of hijackers and two detailed suicide operations that were not connected to aviation.
However, officials were “lulled into a false sense of security”, and “intelligence that indicated a real and growing threat leading up to 9/11 did not stimulate significant increases in security procedures”, the commission report, written last August, said.
The report gives more details than had been included in the 9/11 commission’s overall report, which was released in July. The Bush administration blocked the public release of the full version of the report for more than five months.
It reveals that, in spring 2001, the FAA had warned US airports that hijackers intending to commit suicide “in a spectacular explosion” would be most likely to select domestic targets. The FAA is criticised for being more concerned with reducing airline congestion, lessening delays, and easing airlines’ financial problems than with deterring a terrorist attack.
The report also accuses the authority of failing to pursue domestic security measures that could have helped counter the threats that led to September 11. Such actions could have included the toughening of airport screening procedures for weapons or expanding the use of on-flight air marshals, it said.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,,1410972,00.html
September 2nd, 2006 at 8:10 amPlease read and sign this petition to keep ABC from airing this piece of propagandized bull sh*t. Spread the word to your smart friends to sign it as well.
http://www.petitiononline.com/dearabc/petition.html…
September 2nd, 2006 at 9:25 amgeorge w. bush(lower case signifies a small (man)?) PRESIDENT & CEO of CORRUPTION INC.This is the most corrupt administration in the history of this country.It is like a toilet that is plugged up and over flowing.The shit just keeps on coming.Why is it that people in this country can find Scott Peterson guilty of the murder of his wife and unborn child on circumstantial evidense,but REFUSE to accept the OVERWHELMING EVIDENSE of the BLATANT CORRUPTION of THIS ADMINISTRATION?Why is this?BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADMITT THAT THEY WERE WRONG! ! ! And they can not and will not do that.
September 2nd, 2006 at 10:51 am“Smear and Fear” with a little help from a MAJOR NETWORK! Everyone should write ABC about this blatant attempt by Conservative nutbags to re-write history.
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:18 pmI find it truly amazing that your headline that brought me to this blog reads, “Writer of ABC’s 9-11 ‘Docudrama’ is a conservative activist”. When Michael Moore came out with Fahrenheit 9/11, yhe LIBERAL ACTIVISTS agreed with the misinformation and propaganda of the movie and fully endrorsed the film. I don’t remember any LIBERAL BLOGS running articles headlined “Writer of Fahrenheit 9/11 is a liberal activist”. Considering this is the same thing on the other side of the isle and nothing was said like this, it certainly concludes the biast that exists on this site.
EMICK
September 2nd, 2006 at 12:41 pmIt has been reported that Bill Clinton was going to make a personal phone call to Bob Iger of ABC asking him not to run the movie in his current format. I wonder why?
I don’t recall Bush or anyone in his administration making phone calls to try and keep Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11 film from hitting the big screen and television sets. You guys on the right are great for dishing it out but you can’t take it. Heck, you guys don’t even play by the same rules. You publicly rip a conservative but when the same is done to you, conservatives are “mean spirited”. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
EMICK
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:45 pmYes the ABC docudrama guy is a GOP agent > who else could claim Clinton was responsible for 9/11 > lol.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:50 pmI guess it is news, since almost all media is produced by the left and far left.
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:55 pmOne of the characteristics of a fascist system is a partnership between the government and the media wherein the media support and praise the government in exchange for certain benifits. Given that many of our media investigate no further than the day’s Neo-Con talking points, this “Docudrama” blaming it all on Clinton should come as no surprise.
September 2nd, 2006 at 2:26 pmI think every affliate needs to hear the voice of the real Americans so this won’t be aired.
September 2nd, 2006 at 3:03 pmJust did a quick search. Seems Coach Jason didn’t bother to answer any of our posts to him.
What a loser.
September 2nd, 2006 at 3:16 pmAnd where, oh where, is Karen Schell? Seems she skipped out on us too. What a shame.
September 2nd, 2006 at 3:18 pmI won’t be watching this show and I will be sending emails to ABC in protest. Blaming Clinton is the last straw! I’ve been laughing when they say stuff like they inheirited the recession from Clinton, and all the other stuff, but to blame Clinton for 9/11 when Bush completely ignored the warnings is too much to bear. These men have no souls!
September 2nd, 2006 at 3:26 pmWell, duh! What would you expect from a Zionist propaganda outlet? The best way to figure out the truth is to watch ABCBSNBCFOX or the US or Israeli governments and figure the truth is the exact opposite of what they say it is.
September 2nd, 2006 at 3:35 pmIf ABC can’t or won’t stop from showing the film, then I guess they are responsible for liable and slanderous statements. Can’t they be charged for the lack of fact checking and publication of non-true statements after the showing? Might make the Mickey and friends look interesting after a few days in the legal spotlight not to mention the long-term effect on their stock. I’d like to see them claim that the basis of the film was fictious in nature to beat the rap.
Boycott Disney, Inc.
September 2nd, 2006 at 3:38 pmmoore must be doing something right to be attacked like this by this piece of shit cyrus nyresteh
September 2nd, 2006 at 3:59 pm[...] Source: Think Progress [...]
September 2nd, 2006 at 5:14 pmDuring the Cold War terrorism was treated as a criminal act rather then political because is allowed the both Democratic and Republican administrations to ignore Soviet participation. Treating Badar Meinhof and Brigatta Rosa bombings and hijackings as the aberrant behavior of misguided thugs prevented a face-off with a nuclear power.
Cold Warriors viewed the world in a binary manner, the West v. the USSR. Mutually Assured Destruction, appropriately called MAD, demanded that neither side confront the other in any direct way. Viet Nam and Afghanistan were surrogate arenas.
The flaw was that neither side paid much attention to the idea that there could be a third player in the game. Nor did they appreciate the impact removing the nuclear threat and the strict controls of the KGB could have on this third force. I refer to what some call Islam-Fascism.
The Clinton administration’s “Chinese Wall†between the foreign intelligence services and the nation security apparatus such as the FBI was a natural outgrowth of the decision to treat terrorist acts, at home or abroad, as purely criminal matters. Any cooperation in investigations that led to a trial would hand the defense team immediate grounds for appeal in our courts.
The Bush administration, like the Clinton administration before it, was served by agencies steeped in more then thirty years of policy. That policy, which made sense when first set in place in the 1970’s, ill served the nation in 2001.
According to the author’s own account of the mini-series, the first night does not look good for the Clinton’s and the second night does not look good for the Bushies, either.
September 2nd, 2006 at 6:44 pmIn my opinion, the attack was a symbolic one, against the Twin Towers. Those towers could have been in downtown Everytown, USA, and they would have gone.
People like Osama bin Laden have no use for anyone, except for those like himself. He doesn’t care if the American left supports him or not, which we don’t.
Comment by Zooey — September 1, 2006 @ 11:31 pm
You have nailed it, Zooey. To the Wahabi’s the Towers epitomize the godless Western dominates the world and led to corruption of Mullahs. In one attack they hit the symbolic center of capitalism, the nucleas of the Great Satin’s military, and apparently meant to hit either the White House or the Capitol building.
There was a poetic touch in their selection of targets. Also, note the date was 911; the number that all American’s know is to be used only in dire emergencies.
September 2nd, 2006 at 7:03 pmThis situation is becoming very serious, but will never be fully resolved. Even if Bush, Cheney, Rumsfelt were to confess to planning and carrying out the 9/11 attacks on national TV, some people would still not accept it. They’d say Bush and Co. were hypnotised or threatened. But suppose it could be proved that the Bush administration were behind 9/11, wouldn’t this provoke an identity crisis among segments of the US population? From one perspective the false flag nature of the operation was the worst aspect. Early days, but commit the crime of the century and lay the blame on others. How much worse can it get? I’m starting to wonder if many US citizens would be too ashamed to be Americans. So what do we have? Break up of the US into separate countries? When you look into the abyss too long the abyss starts to look into you.
September 2nd, 2006 at 7:09 pm“I don’t recall Bush or anyone in his administration making phone calls to try and keep Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11 film from hitting the big screen and television sets.”
You are such an idiot. No network aired Fahrenheit 911. People paid to see it in movie theaters and rented the video.
What I want to know it what kind of favors has Disney been getting from the Bush regime. Tax cuts? regulatory favors? sweetheart FCC deals? Follow the money.
September 2nd, 2006 at 7:27 pm[...] But just in case you happen to tune in while, “The Path to 9-11″ is on, here are some things you should know. [...]
September 2nd, 2006 at 8:23 pm[...] Now, rumor has it that this will be a blame Clinton movie. I think we should wait and see it before passing judgement, after all, it is just a movie. [...]
September 2nd, 2006 at 9:01 pmApparently this “docudrama” is even more truthful than the events that actually happened in reality.
The Bush White House and it’s cult-like followers are less interested in truth and more interested in self-serving propaganda. Since they know they are outnumbered, propaganda is all they have left to convince people that they are the final word on truth.
September 2nd, 2006 at 10:07 pmBush can’t take credit for good things, and pass off the negative. The bottom line is, he was in office when 9/11 occured.
September 2nd, 2006 at 10:15 pmHey EMICK, you less than intelligent tool. You didn’t know Michael Moore was a lefty when you watched it? FUX NEWS didn’t tell you that? Oh, by the way, when did you pick up your 10 grand for proving the misinformation? Oh, you didn’t? You are just a dumb a$$h&^e spouting BS? K, gotcha.
September 2nd, 2006 at 11:47 pmLOL, nice Pingback by “right voices”. Let’s withhold judgement. That is a strength of the right.
September 2nd, 2006 at 11:49 pmComment by EMICK — September 2, 2006 @ 1:45 pm
Interesting point, EMICK. I recalled there was some controversy around the release of Mr. Moore’s film, so I looked it up. I found a fascinating article on the bbc site:
So, what do you know? The very company that refused to distribute Fahrenheit 9/11 is now releasing a “docudrama” laying the blame on the Clintons!
And, though the article does not name names, it does cite “Right-wing groups” who lobbied cinemas to boycott the movie, and succeeded in getting some cinemas to refuse to show it.
People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Comment by EMICK
And you would be well served if you took your own advice.
September 3rd, 2006 at 12:26 amThere shouldn’t be any parallels drawn between this “docudrama” and “F-heit 911″ as people has to choose to pay and see F-heit while ABC is one of what like a handful of free television stations? It’s like State-TV masquerading as the free press. What a shame.
September 3rd, 2006 at 1:39 amI think Zoolander and his Zionist friends at Touchstone and Disney are starting to feel the heat from the (9/11 truth movement.) The 9/11 Commission Report was a whitewash. I also heard That NIST is going to re-examine The WTC collapse from the angle that it could have been a controlled demolition.
September 3rd, 2006 at 1:40 amIt would be nice if the admins here weeded out the troll gibbering.
September 3rd, 2006 at 3:18 amwho’s HE sleeping with?
September 3rd, 2006 at 7:55 amnot like clinton sold guns to iran or something like that.
September 3rd, 2006 at 9:05 amTo add to post #338. Mel Gibson’s production company, Icon pictures, was originally slated to distribute Fahrenheit 9/11. That is until Gibson got a call from administration/White House officials pressuring him NOT to. Mel gave in. Gibson later claimed that he and Moore shared a kinship, (after Gibson had some controversy over his own “Passion”). That is when I stopped thinking of Mr. Gibson as a good guy. I believe, (I know, who cares?), that Mr. Moore’s film had alot of relevant stuff, and some crap, that all Americans should have had access to, many could just not afford even the 7.25 a ticket matinee prices. Moore is not really a socialist weasel, he is a capitalist weasel. His 9/11 movie could have been a true self-sacrificial display of his allegedly deep patriotism / love of country, had the movie been screened for free for anyone to see. But, there was money to be made, and the need for profits will always outweigh the importance of any message, of any allegiance, of any patriotic declaration. But the crap that ABC is airing is sure “free” enough, isn;t it? Clint IS an ***hole too, by the way.
September 3rd, 2006 at 9:14 amWas Bill Clinton still President on 9/11/2001? Because the President is Commander and Chief and is responsible for what happens on his watch, just like anybody else. So, if Big Bill was at the helm that day, then by-golly he sure is responsible.
September 3rd, 2006 at 9:15 ami hope people dont believe this dirtbag,any one that still believes we have a terrorist problem has a mental problem at best.this sycophantic media plant should be arrested for thier deception and lies,just what the hell is wrong with the people of this country,if whe do not rid our country of these scumbags that preach war and step all over our constitution our kids will spit on our graves.grow up america and take it back before these scumbags attack us again.vote america firsters not israel firsters.why should we give israel money they have a hundred trillion doler a year economy and we have a 11 trillion dollers a year,israel only has five million people to americas 300 million.whats wrong with this picture.wake up america the enemy is within.
September 3rd, 2006 at 9:50 amObviously you are unaware of previous work and political orientation of several of the people involved in Path to 9/11. I’ve done some checking on Google and, frankly, Path to 9/11 producers Mark Platt and Hans Proppe hardly fit description of either “right-winger” or “conservative”. Quite the opposite. Check it out!
September 3rd, 2006 at 1:47 pmThis thread is fascinating…equal parts serious discussion, rabid wingnuttery, and salacious voyeurism. I love it!
A quick question: Several years ago, at a radio station in my town, there was a DJ on in the evening who called himself Craven Morehead.
So that knowledge leads me to wonder: Is Sharon Cox a similarly-inclined pseudonym? And if so, who are you “Sharon” them with?
I’m just saying…
And trueblue, this may have been answered already, I lost much of my eyesight at about post #300, but – are you kidding about Nowrasteh and the Persian/Iranian question?
Persian IS Iranian. The country now known as Iran is the country formerly known as Persia. Nowrasteh’s use of “Persian” as his nationality is an obvious attempt to keep the uninformed (which in this case, sorry, seems to include you) from realizing that he hails from the Axis of Evil.
Just seemed like something that needed to be said. I now return you to your regular programming…
September 3rd, 2006 at 3:06 pmRL
First, let’s not forget the good ole 1st Amendment. so ABC/MIC k-e-y M-o-u-s-e can and should be able to air whatever, and in turn, WE The People, have a right and obligation to respond. So, to start, note all the spots aired in the show, and follow up with a civil but strong note to all the advertisers that you will no longer be supporting their products,and why, and will advise everone you know to do the same. Ya gotta hit em in the pocketbook. And please, no crap about boycotts don’t work, the Corporate PR flacks are terrified of a bunch of bad publicity fouling their Corporate Brand, and ever since Lieberloserman lost, whether justified or not, the Corp Flacks are also terrorfied (sic) of the Mighty Blogosphere. A side note, speaking of mighty, the San Deigo MA is so clueless, she doen’t even know the name of the ball park when the local nine play, which, of course is typical of the WingNuts, strong thoughts about things they know nothing about.
September 3rd, 2006 at 3:51 pmWell lets boycott ABC and their sponsors. If the republicans can start a boycott and get material pulled off TV why can’t we. Look at what they did to Whoppie Goldbreg when she made comments about bush AT A PRIVATE PARTY.. When rush spews his crap do they pull his show, no because we dont make a consertive effort to BOYCOTT. BOYCOTT.
September 3rd, 2006 at 4:22 pmThey can attempt to change history all they want, it’s in their nature to be deceitful. The bottom line, however, is quite evident:
BUSH WAS PRESIDENT ON 9/11.
BUSH WAS PRESIDENT ON 9/11.
BUSH WAS PRESIDENT ON 9/11.
Period.
September 3rd, 2006 at 4:46 pm911 occurred on Bush’s watch
Katrina ” ” ” ”
Where is Osama?
Cargo on planes and coming into our ports are not checked.
23,000 Kia and Wounded in Iraq
All occured while bush was president
September 3rd, 2006 at 9:26 pmHe is a former writer for the well known, historical accurate TV show, Falcon Crest—–really true, just Google him up:
an excellent pick to document propagandic crap.
September 3rd, 2006 at 9:35 pmBOYCOTT BIG CORPORATE MEDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 3rd, 2006 at 11:39 pmRemember how Condi was EXTREMELY RELUCTANT to give the actual title of this PDB:
“Bin Laden Determined to Strike the United States”.
NO amount of ABC swill can explain away BUSH’s IGNORING THIS WARNING.
September 4th, 2006 at 9:26 amexcuse me coach jason but Farenhiet 911 was pulled from tv the night before it was to be shown because of the election of Bush. No one made you watch it unless you paid to watch and didnt the movie on Reagan get yanked because you conservatives didnt like the contents of the movie? what a hypocrite you are as your party. I guess if a liberal slant show it. If a conservative slant whine like a baby and dont show it.
September 4th, 2006 at 10:45 am[...] On September 10 and 11, ABC is planning to air a “docudrama” called “Path to 9/11,” billed as “an objective telling of the events of 9/11.” In fact, the film was written by an unabashed conservative who twists the facts to blame President Clinton. [...]
September 4th, 2006 at 11:25 am[...] It was basically produced by a bunch of prominent right wingers, and blames Clinton (you’d think that one would get old after 5 1/2 years, but some jokes live forever), for everything that happened. ABC has already taken down the blog about the show, since they have come under attack, they’re marketing it to a right-wing audience, and now, in another example of the glory of blogosphere, more hypocrisy of the Republican variety is exposed. [...]
September 4th, 2006 at 8:36 pmHmmm… Why is everyone crying about a conservative making a film?
Is it because you can’t, and won’t, break down the failures of the previous admin?
Typical frustrated liberals. [sigh]
“They phone Clinton, but he and his senior staff refuse to give authorization for the capture of Bin Laden, for fear of political fall-out if the mission should go wrong and civilians are harmed. National Security Adviser Sandy Berger in essence tells the team in Afghanistan that if they want to capture Bin Laden, they’ll have to go ahead and do it on their own without any official authorization. That way, their necks will be on the line – and not his. The astonished CIA agent on the ground in Afghanistan repeatedly asks Berger if this is really what the administration wants. Berger refuses to answer, and then finally just hangs up on the agent. The CIA team and the Northern Alliance, just a few feet from capturing Bin Laden, have to abandon the entire mission.”
THIS IS WHY YOU PEOPLE ARE SO AGAINST THIS PROGRAM!
Keep up the phat work… sorry Team Clinton.. party is over. ; )
September 4th, 2006 at 10:56 pm[...] On September 10 and 11, ABC is planning to air a “docudrama” called Path to 9/11, billed by writer Cyrus Nowrasteh as “an objective telling of the events of 9/11.” [...]
September 5th, 2006 at 10:11 amWill the last Bush supporter please turn out the lights? Thank you.
September 5th, 2006 at 10:24 amBlame Clinton first…
ABC is going ahead with it’s right-wing-penned Clinton hit piece on September 10 and 11….
September 5th, 2006 at 12:21 pm[...] The 9/11 mocumentary that’s going to be broadcast on ABC has been discovered to have been written by an avowed conservative activist (I wonder if the administration gave him funding to make this) who spends most of his air time blaming Clinton for the 9/11 attacks and blowing sunshine up Bush’s ass. When many people discovered this and commented on the ABC blog for the docudrama, the writer stormed out of the conversation in a hissy-fit after posting a few replies. The blog is now gone. Also, ABC is providing right-wing bloggers with advanced copies of the show, and they appear to be excluding progressive bloggers from conference call promoting of the film. Firedoglake has the details. [...]
September 5th, 2006 at 12:43 pm[...] The upcoming ABC dramatization of the road to 9/11 has been drawing all kinds of fire from lefties and former Clinton officials for making the drop-dead obvious point that the man in office for eight months can’t be blamed for the failures of the prior decade. Think Progress has an indignant Richard Clarke: On September 10 and 11, ABC is planning to air a “docudrama†called Path to 9/11, billed by writer Cyrus Nowrasteh as “an objective telling of the events of 9/11.†[...]
September 5th, 2006 at 1:43 pmMichael Moore doesn’t claim that his films are “unbiased”. It’s just like Fox claiming to be “fair and balanced”. The level of propaganda used by the GOP is frighteningly reminicent of Nazi Germany. I plan to participate in a letter-writing campaign and boycott of any and all ABC sponsors if this airs. If there isn’t a campaign that I can join, I will start one. The religious right does it all the time.
September 5th, 2006 at 1:59 pmOf course the timing is suspect. Just weeks before the mid-term elections and they’re gonna paint poor little bush as the victim of the Clinton administration. I’m sure they’re not gonna go into detail about how the country is less safe now than it was before 9/11 and how the administration uses the (far too convenient) 9/11 as the seed of fear to drive this country further down murderous path.
September 5th, 2006 at 2:13 pm[...] On September 10 and 11, ABC is planning to air a “docudrama†called Path to 9/11, billed by writer Cyrus Nowrasteh as “an objective telling of the events of 9/11.†[...]
September 5th, 2006 at 3:57 pmOh it’s Clintons fault. That’s weird because I thought it was Osama Bin Laden. Clinton had no power to do anything the 8 months leading up to 9/11, however it is his “fault”
I love the right wing propaganda, the spin to win, the ones who divide and conquer.
September 5th, 2006 at 5:43 pmOK, fair enough, I’ll try to sit though this guy’s repugnant twist on things — just don’t call it NEWS, call it opinion. Fahrenheit 9/11 was a movie, you had to pay good money to go see it, it was presented by a public figure widely known to have controversial opinions. Everybody who saw it knew what they were in for before they even hopped in the car to go to the Multiplex. ABC is airing THIS propoganda as news, and that’s what I have a problem with. How close are we to state-run media???
September 5th, 2006 at 6:07 pmThis comment is specifically in response to coachjason. The difference between Fahrenhit 911 and this movie is that Michael Moore put his documentary in the movie theatre where you had to pay to see it. If you didn’t want to see it, you didn’t have to pay. ABC is airing this over the public airways. That’s an entirely different proposition. I will not look at any movie that politicizes 9/11. Afterall, 9/11 happened to ALL Americans. We all felt the indescribable pain of that day. It is still very raw for me and I do not want anyone to use it to promote their on sick partisan agenda. Republicans are desperate people. They realize that they squandered their last best opportunity to rule. Their greed and hatred for working people caused them to go too far and now their reality is that it will be many many years before they are in power again. (Assuming they aren’t allowed to steal another election.) Run your stupid movie. We are smart enough to see through your lies. Don’t you get it yet? Thinking people will never be duped again. We see through you. THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES!
September 5th, 2006 at 6:31 pm[...] The writer of this project, Cyrus Nowrasteh, is a well documented rightwing filmmaker: [...]
September 5th, 2006 at 8:01 pm[...] UPDATE 9/5/06: via Think Progress: On September 10 and 11, ABC is planning to air a “docudrama†called Path to 9/11, billed by writer Cyrus Nowrasteh as “an objective telling of the events of 9/11.†[...]
September 5th, 2006 at 8:37 pmThe guy probably is biased – HOWEVER – avowed liberals write ‘docudramas’ all the time for television. Secondly, Clinton did have something to do with 9/11. Your saying that Clinton had this country wrapped up tight, safe and sound from any terrorist attack, then Bush came in and tore all the defenses down in 8 months? C’mon.
Clinton’s attitude of letting Bin Laden go, despite having at least 2 golden opportunities to get him allowed Al Queda to grow and move forward with 9/11, which they had been planning for at least 2 years. Which puts us back to 1999. If you’ll check the record books, Clinton was President at that time.
I’m not saying that GWB is right in everything or that he’s done a perfect job, but whitewashing Clinton’s utter failure to address terrorism is ridiculous. He is culpable for a lot of things.
Again, not everything Clinton did was bad, but his well-documented bouts of indecision allowed Bin Laden to do what he did. Terrorism was not created by GWB, despite what the Democrats tell you.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:52 amWriter/producer Cyrus Nowrasteh & director David Cunningham were bribed with cash and in kind by the GOP and its various front organizations to trash and thrash Clinton and the Democrats. Cyrus Nowrasteh son of corrupt Iranian parents (who helped themselves to the Iranian treasury) who fled Iran and supported the Shah in looting Iran is very conservative and does not believe in equality for all, believe the rich and their supporters should rule countries. Cyrus has privately propagated that slavery should have continued, blacks should not have been given equal rights, and the USA should take over the entire Middel-East. Cyrus likes people in power and he and his family were enamored by the Shah that they conider themselves as Bushies and part of the ruling class. One Hollywood insider communicated that Cyrus is a womanizer, alcoholic and a drug addict and has tried gay lifestyle in the past. David Cunningham is a closet gay.
September 6th, 2006 at 2:31 amThe US and world neoconservatives that get their money from the current oil economy need an enemy, need a boogyman – they need bin Laden. That’s why he is still alive.
September 6th, 2006 at 4:10 amthe republicans are sure worried about clintons privates thats all they can talk about i wonder why they are so jealous over him
September 6th, 2006 at 6:17 am9/11 Conspiracy
Here are some 9/11 conspiracy videos. The first is a link to a full-length documentary called “Loose Change” (click on the link and follow the link to the video):
http://www.loosechange911.com/
Other shorter 9/11 conspiracy stuff I also found interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc2lih2qjEg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXpcnhwFlIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF8-8Kaa8jo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBVVs9hcmRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmvGFVr6KNk
September 6th, 2006 at 12:42 pmMy friends and I are going to boycott all products that are advertised during this movie. Our families do not need to use products that support these lies.
I am sick of the GOP using 9/11 to distract from the hell they have created in Iraq. We need to bring our troops home, what is the point of them dying, what exactly are they accomplishing?
Signed,
Elizabeth Flanagan
September 6th, 2006 at 12:59 pmTo the right wingers complaining about Fahrenheit 9/11 and saying it’s now their turn to have their documentary, here’s the big difference:
Fahrenheit 9/11 was shown in theatres. The audience had to pay to see it. This documentary is being shown by a broadcast network. ABC/Disney is putting themselves in the position of being a political activist, peddling what could be considered favorable propaganda for the GOP, when a broadcast network should not be taking that role.
September 6th, 2006 at 7:16 pm“And Michael Moore is neutral ?? Come on .. this post really doesn’t deserves to be published.”
September 6th, 2006 at 10:39 pm-neutrality isn’t the issue.Truth is the issue.
Michael Moore has answered his critics (on his website)with a point by point refutation of the bogus charges leveled against him.
ABC/Disney by comparison, won’t even allow an EX PRESIDENT (who the film smears for political reasons in an election year)an advanced viewing of their mini-series on 9/11.They also (apparently) even refuse to extend the common courtesy of answering letters from M Albright and S Berger
questioning some of the films depictions of actions taken,or not taken by the Clinton admin. This whole thing is a disgrace,and you disgrace yourself by attempting to defend it.
i think it’s very clear that what the government has spoonfed america and the world for the last 5 years is garbage. it’s time to look ahead, folks, and see what’s coming, recognize it and get out of its way. fight it if you want to, but i feel that this beast is too big, too out of control, too zonkers to try to reign in, so just step back and let the evil consume itself. “a snake eating its own tail is not nutritious”.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:59 pm[...] But yesterday, writer and avowed conservative Cyrus Nowrasteh admitted that the films most controversial scene was based on nothing at all. Nowrasteh told a right-wing radio station that the scene was “improvised.” From the New York Times: Mr. Berger’s character is also seen abruptly hanging up during a conversation with a C.I.A. officer at a critical moment of a military operation. In an interview yesterday with KRLA-AM in Los Angeles, Cyrus Nowrasteh, the mini-series’ screenwriter and one of its producers, said that moment had been improvised. [...]
September 7th, 2006 at 10:19 am[...] Someone better inform this blog (as well as this one) about that important tidbit of info. [...]
September 7th, 2006 at 12:33 pm[...] Read more about Mr. Nowrasteh’s conservative ties here. [...]
September 7th, 2006 at 4:01 pmEveryone, the best suggestion I’ve seen yet is to boycott the sponsors, but I would go one step further…
Email the sponsor’s corporate boards that they’re being boycotted and maybe they should think twice before their stockholders get wind of it.
Face it, a threat from their stockholders is really the only thing they will listen to.
September 7th, 2006 at 9:30 pmYou can lead a Conservative to truth but you cannot get them to think….
September 8th, 2006 at 2:25 amConservatives Should Hate Disney’s Path to 911 Too…
When I heard that Disney was making The Path to 9/11, I thought it was too soon to be making a cartoon about September 11….
September 8th, 2006 at 4:27 amJust thought you might like to see Cyrus Nowrasteh’s favorite blow up fantasy. Just follow the link: http://www.rezapahlavi.org
September 8th, 2006 at 4:44 am[...] The writer-producer is Cyrus Nowrasteh, known to hang in Right Wing circles. Interviewed by the conservative Front Page magazine, he is happy to whack the Clintonians: ” FP: When you refer to the failed effort to stop Bin Laden in the 1990s, this was obviously the time of Bill Clinton. How much do you think his administration made us vulnerable to 9/11? [...]
September 8th, 2006 at 7:57 amBill Clinton should sue ABC/Disney! I knew the moment I saw Bush stand on a pile of World Trade Center rubble (one of his best post-9/11 ‘photo opps’) we were in for a long, strange trip. Patriots! go to peterwerbe.com!
September 8th, 2006 at 9:03 amHas anyone here seen this program of which they write? Might it be a good idea to do so before reviewing it? –Ted.
September 8th, 2006 at 10:21 amI am a liberal, and let’s face it, Clinton did nothing about OBL…and neither did the W. Bush administration. Stop pointing fingers. We ALL blew it. We all missed the signs. And forget about Bush, Sr. He loved OBL for taking on the Soviets! All of us, including our leaders, were too busy watching our AOL stocks and bathing in money to worry about the rest of the newly-globalized world. Remember?
As for the Michael Moore/Nowrasteh argument: The difference is in how they’re pitched. I sincerely doubt anyone went to Farenheit 9/11 expecting an unbiased POV. It was pitched as a Michael Moore film, so you know what you are getting into (btw, I thought the film was poorly made…Bowling for Columbine was for more lucid and focused). The TV doc was not pitched as, you know, “From the mind of Cyrus Nowrasteh”. He is not an infamous household name. This was a stealth move. Completely underhanded and disgraceful. If Nowrasteh was the publicity hound Moore was, and we all knew his take, this would have been more acceptable.
Anyway…please, Hollywood, give us something between Moore and Nowrasteh! Just the facts. Just the facts.
September 8th, 2006 at 10:29 amIf we want to use a film to get us up in arms we need to focus on V for Vendetta. The people must stop being sheep. Have we become lazy because of the Internet? We vent in words while actions go by the wayside. Words are great but they do not seem to stir people like they did when Martin Luther King was around. He had people getting off their butts and DOING something. Had we used the Internet to express our feelings during the sixties the Vietnam War might still be raging. Come on sheep, organize and march on DC an throw the bums out. BTW, I will never watch ABC again.
September 8th, 2006 at 11:08 amMore liberal Censorship. We’ll never hear the phrase “Free Speech” come from the left in this “controversy”!
September 8th, 2006 at 11:48 amGeorge Bush was president for 9 months before 9/11 took place. He was not there for just a month, two, or even three months. He had time to do something and he was apprised of signs that something might happen but he was too focused on his “Leave no child behind” plan.
I believe ABC is about to air a slanderous program that won’t even mention why George Bush should have known something might happen or how aggravated he was that his press conference, to discuss “Leave no child behind” with school children on 9/11, was interrupted.
I also doubt ABC will mention anything about the fact that Osama Bin Laden was backed by President Reagan and the Republicans.
If ABC does air this program I will never again watch shows like; “Good Morning America†and the “ABC Evening Newsâ€. Then I hope the whole nation joins in boycotting Disney and ABC and that they pay the price for their subversion.
Broadcasting companies should not take sides with politics!
September 8th, 2006 at 12:06 pmFree speech, Jim? Is deliberately perpetrating a falsehood in a forum such as the ABC television network protected speech? Left, right or center has nothing to do with this. Are you happy with being lied to?
September 8th, 2006 at 12:07 pmThe automatic knee jerking that both Republicans and Democrats resort to is what is tearing this country apart. The constant smear tactics and mud slinging combined with the support of our so called non biased media is the rot of this country. If I speak out against our president (I have a right to, I voted for him) I am automatically labeled a bleeding heart liberal and if I say homosexuality is wrong ( I’m sorry but I don’t want my daughter becoming a purple lipped lesbian) I am labeled a religious nut or homophobic. It is a shame that exercising my rights as an American causes others to believe me a bad person or anti American. There is no room for mixed views in our politically correct Reb/Dem country. It seems that free speech is only free if know one hears you and true liberty is only achieved if you are alone on a deserted island. Our government is like professional wrestling. Both sides continue to find new ways to fool and entertain the people who pay the ticket. Behind the smoke and mirrors they pat each other on the back and smile because know the sheep will follow anybody that has a stick with a bell on it.
Our elected officials should be finding ways to improve our system of government and our quality of life instead of spending our tax dollars on political party bashing. Our corporate leaders should stick to finding ways to make money and stay out of politics. Our entertainment companies like Disney should stick to entertainment and stay out of politics. Life in America is like watching a bad reality show. It is painful to watch yet know one is willing to get off there ass and change the channel plus there are only 2 channels to choose from and it’s the same old cow pie flipped over.
September 8th, 2006 at 12:09 pmApparently you don’t have a problem with Michael Moore does a hatchet job on President Bush. So why are you complaining about the way President Clinton is treated in this docudrama? Have you even seen the mini-series yet or are you just taking the word of a few partisan hacks?
September 8th, 2006 at 12:51 pmNobody except the liberal left considers this mini series anything like the truth. Its not NEWS for God’s sake its a mini-series!. You idiots didn’t bitch about the lies about President Bus in Michael Moores’ movie so – Get over it!
September 8th, 2006 at 1:07 pmI read your Terms of Use agreement and if you really uphold it you can’t possibley publish half of the stuff I see in your blog!
September 8th, 2006 at 1:10 pm[...] Now, on the eve of the fifth anniversary of 9/11, ABC/DISNEY is turning over its airwaves to a pseudo-documentary, “The Path to 9/11,” written and produced by far right partisans [the main scriptwriter is Rush Limbaugh friend Cyrus Nowrasteh]. This latest ideological crusade blames the Clinton administration for 9/11, by treating history as if it were a Disney fairy tale that could be changed for any story line. [...]
September 8th, 2006 at 2:07 pmYou people are all NUTS!!!! I’m shocked at some of your statements that you actually can believe. Micheal Moore’s film 911 is mostly all facts – George Bush was to blame for Katrina, and so on. Where do you get all your facts and in any disaster when is it the responsibilty of the federal goverment to remove people from harm. Have you ever heard of local and state goverments? And they cannot force people out, it is the individual’s responsiblity to get out. But OH NO George Bush caused it and he is to blame, if he would of tried to send in federal troops to assist in the evacuation without the approval of the Governer then you people would of have a field day. Put blame where blame is do – The individual’s along with Ray Nagen and the Governer.
September 8th, 2006 at 2:25 pmI hardly believe that the majority of conservatives out there WON’T believe it. I live in South Dakota, in Rapid City, an area considered to be less conservative than the rest of the state and I talk with people and work with people every day who believe there is a hold on the media by the liberal left, never heard that our president was a cheerleader, don’t really know why Dan Rather was fired but he had it coming and live every day by some false code called Christianity, which allows them to think that they are the chosen.
September 8th, 2006 at 3:19 pmWhere is the liberal media? As a former broadcaster I would like to know because I would really enjoy listening to it. I don’t know how anyone can say that there is a liberal hold on the media. When you can drive from Washington State to Minnesota listening to nothing but Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Bill O’Reilly and others of the same ilk back to back non-stop on the commercial public airwaves, you CAN’T tell ME that there is a liberal hold on the media. Oh, yeah, I can listen to Al Franken if I have a little extra cash. And I can get more from The Daily Show and Bill Maher. I don’t include Colbert because he picks on everyone and most conservatives don’t seem to know what a parody is.
I watched Katie Couric’s tepid and non-newsy interview with the president the other night, plus listened to what she had to say about us being safer. There was a lot of empty information and not one journalist in the whole piece asked the president why when he talks about Iraq he talks about Bin Laden, who is still on the loose, 5 years later. We are just now turning to Afghanistan(can you tell it’s election time?)when our focus should have been there from the very beginning. One minute we were talking about the war in Iraq and the next minute we were in Afghanistan. Then the journalist brought us back to the war on terrorism in Iraq. I don’t think people really think that the war against terrorism should be in Afghanistan instead of Iraq and many of the hijackers were Saudis, nearly kin to the Bush dynasty. People don’t really seem to care that we are in the wrong place fighting the wrong war. American people read about as much as Dubya and that is why it is absolutely essential that Journalism remembers the 3 Great Rules: Accuracy, Accuracy, Accuracy. It’s a terrible thing when the American people would impeach a president over a sexual indiscretion and revere one who at the very least is secretive and very undiplomatic(not a good quality in the man leading the so-called “free world”). I live in the heart of red country and I can tell you that these people will continue to vote the liars in to office because they are the same people who will protect your right not to have Bill and Fred living next to you and having children. They are the same people who won’t allow your children’s school to teach tolerance by studying different religions and cultures. To heck with war, any war, who cares as long as you don’t have to compete with Jose, Mary or LeRoy for a job. Come and visit me at the base of the Shine of Democracy and tell me that there’s reason in the things our leaders do. There’s only one word for all of it: Avarice. When your opponents have decided that the only way they’ll win the game is by lying, stealing elections and presenting false information as factual, then you will never have a chance of winning if you play by the rules. That’s one thing the right-wing has learned. Declare yourself a Christian and somehow your motives don’t come under any kind of scrutiny. Have we learned nothing from history? I’m disgusted!
I subscribe to MoveOn.Org and I’m surprised at the reaction to this ABC special. What happened to the first amendment? Why are we all of a sudden crying for censorship of ABC. Are we that thin skinned that we can’t just discuss and condemn the docudrama? Trying to stop this might show that we are the wackos and not the conservatives.
September 8th, 2006 at 3:28 pmthough this seems radical, I’d prefer to watch what the Republicans have come up with. Our constitution gives everyone the right to free speech (whether true or false). Petitions like this gives us the information that the docudrama is false and we should watch (or not watch) in our own discretion. This event will be an ongoing conspiracy theorists’ dream and films like this will continue to come out, we can’t always hide or run away from the opposition.
September 8th, 2006 at 3:36 pmRalph doesn’t see the difference?
He says “Nobody except the liberal left considers this mini series anything like the truth, Its not NEWS for God’s sake its a mini-series!”
- But its being presented as a documentary that should be the truth and many will believe that ABC and its news staff tries to present the truth (which will no longer be the case if the content is as some, including an FBI agent, have stated is not the truth).
“You idiots didn’t bitch about the lies about President Bus in Michael Moores’ movie so – Get over it!”
- But plenty of conservatives did complain about Moore’s movie (a movie I never saw) which they would have paid to see while this will be presented over the public airwaves and is being advertised as a factual 9/11 documentary, not a piece of fiction. Doesn’t he remember the complaint from the Catholic Church over the fictional “DaVinci Code†movie shown in theaters?
If Republicans want this to be shown, let them at least take it to the theaters.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:17 pmI’ll watch. I want to know what *%^# Republican conservatives are going to bring up in conversation so I can counterpoint. One fact remains, Iraq didn’t begin in Clinton’s administration. Katrina didn’t happen in Clinton’s administration. The deficit greatly expanded in Bush’s administration (remember the bribe we got when he took the office the first time?) I want to see a timeline of all the things Bush/Cheney/Rummy have done. 100 years from now my great grandchildren will be saying “You’ve got to be kidding, that was a stupid and irresponsible thing to do”. Name your issue.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:18 pmThe whole thing is disasterous in so many ways, not that it’s particularly wise to get your news from a docudrama or from ABC. The inherent nature of a docudrama means that scenes are made up to fill in the blanks, and it’s rare that they aren’t completely facricated and/or completely misleading.
For people interested in getting it yanked, it’s being petitioned away. I haven’t got anything from any conservative groups yet, though I probably will soon, but you can sign moveon’s petition by clicking here:
It’s great when the conservatives and the liberals get fired up about something, because what they say in their e-mails is so very different.
The internet and political activism rocks. Two bucks says even if its yanked it’ll end up on utube. The radio this morning thinks the thing will be just as bad if not worse for bush, but I don’t think so. The man’s ratings may be dropping but considering all that he’s done, and what the general public reaction has been, he’s still pretty teflon.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:31 pmI think the film is likely a load of nonsense…but what really bothers me is how few of my fellow Americans can spell (in English). Conservatives and liberals alike seem to be grammar, punctuation, and spelling-impaired. Sigh.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:35 pmApparently I can’t close an ahref tag to save my life.
@Thomas Jacoby
You’re right–about me anyway. I can’t spell to save my life, in fact my spelling is so bad I use google search as my spell checker. We all have faults.
Kirk
Amen! I don’t know where the liberal media conspiracy is. I’ve been told that Fox is it’s headquarters, and let me tell you, they’re doing a fantastic job of blending in and laying low.
I get my news from NPR. I live in Los Angeles, so I cant get multiple NPR stations, and at night, they broadcast BBC World News, so I love listening to the news. The only TV news shows that I watch are the Daily Show and The Colbert Report. If there’s an important enough clip, someone will send my a utube link, or it’ll show up on Comedy Central.
Sad, but true. BBC is also great because they have fantastic accents. If you’re an actor, trying to learn a modern accent, you could probably learn most of them from listening to BBC .
September 8th, 2006 at 4:48 pmTo ” Midwestblue “. Yes there is a Petition you can sign. Go to ” Moveon.org political action ” and sign on the petition.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:48 pmTO ” coachjason “. Big difference on Farenheight 9/11 you dumb asshole. Moore showed the real JERK and his stooges on film and voice. Kind of hard to deny the old hand in the cookie jar trick.
But I must admit, the REPUBLICANS are doing what they do best , LIE,CHEAT, and STEAL.
hmm…let’s all get bumper stickers. ..”Frodo failed. Bush has the Ring..”
Seriously though, I say let’s not eliminate free speech. If the great silent majority doesn’t have the will or intelligence to act in defense of of the constitution, civil liberties, national defense AND world peace then we deserve what we get.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:51 pmBottom line…the Clinton administration didn’t take terrorist’s attacks and threats seriously…(a direct quote from Dick Morris)…Clinton has a share in the blame for 9/11…a majority share. No other way to slice it. For Clinton and Dems to object is creating a wider opening for further scrutiny…Repubs are celebrating.
September 8th, 2006 at 5:31 pmthe cons are squirming…. they see their control over government slipping away!
September 8th, 2006 at 5:55 pmBUSH DESERVES A FAIR TRIAL!
What are these people thinking? Boycott Mickey Mouse!
September 8th, 2006 at 6:05 pmOh…one more thing…regarding those people who are pointing at Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 911 saying this somehow justifies the lies of this Disney movie, remember…Disney is the company that refused to distribute Fahrenheit 911. I believe they said something about not wanting to fan flames of controversy. Come on. Understand what’s going on at Disney. Disney is a company run by Boeing, Bechtel and Halliburton. Disney is committed to Republican control of America. This movie represents their best shot.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:12 pmOH YES !! Neocons will do just about ANYTHING to try and shift the blame for EVERYTHING to anyone in lieu of accepting their mistakes. If Clinton had been able to foretell the future, then he should be blamed for ALL attacks by Al Qaida. Then Bush should accept his mistakes for Bin Laden still walking around in the mountains of Pakistan. Why did the MORON [Bush] pull most of the troops from Afghanistan when Bin Laden could have been aprehended or killed ??
September 8th, 2006 at 7:21 pm“Lookatyourselves” What a nut ! You are so rabid in your hatred that it’s all ” lies and Propaganda “. You no longer have any real world perspective.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:49 pmPlease, back in your Rabbit hole where you belong.
Dick Morris is a foot fetishist and a whore. He’s no expert on history, but a mere paid political hack in the service of the GOP. He worked for the Clintons, left or was fired and now hates the Clintons and has a personal grudge.
Why don’t you take the word of Roger Cressey and Richard C. Clarke who actually worked for the National Security Agency? They’re calling the blame-it-all-on-Clinton line garbage.
Or maybe an Iraqi Curveball fed this Administration more lies which they call intelligence cause they like it.
The real problem is that we have a president who preaches personal responsibility and is totally unable to accept responsibility for what happened on his watch. Unfit for duty.
911’s 5th anniversary is a time for national unity. ABC and the GOP are disgracing the memory of those who died by running a deceitful partisan attack vehicle and calling it ‘history.’ They should be ashamed. They are traitors to theis country and to the ideals and values that made America great and for which our kids are dying.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:59 pmspeaking of paid hacks and liberal media conspiracies and otherwise….
September 8th, 2006 at 8:32 pm
Speaking of political hacks and the liberal media conspiracy….
September 8th, 2006 at 8:37 pmI, too, was very disappointed in Katie Couric’s interview with Bush the other night. She let him get away with sidestepping any semi-tough questions she asked, and she never followed up. What a waste of airtime.
September 8th, 2006 at 8:54 pmHey Trax, Could you please tell me how you know that Clinton and Berger pulled the plug on capturing Osama Bin Laden? That’s what I thought. You are one of the many mindless, tedious, banal, knee jerk, dumbed down, I’m going to be angry and self righteous even though I don’t have a clue as to what I’m talking about war crime enabling right wing shills talking out their ass. Judging by how loud and shrill you speak and how often you run that thing it can’t be pretty to look at. probably a qualifier for ogrish.com.
September 9th, 2006 at 1:10 amI just have to point this out thanks to all of the neo-cons and other “conservatives.” Fahrenheit 9/11 was never a forced issue, in fact, if you wanted to go see it you had to shell out some money and some time to do so. Not exactly the same thing when you’re talking about a proposed mini-series to be aired on national television. Let’s think about this. Cost of admission? Nope. Time to watch it? Probably be in a prime or post prime slot, say 8 or 9pm. And if you don’t have the time to watch it, you can always program your vcr/dvr to keep it fresh for when you can watch it. You complain about something that if you paid to see it and didn’t agree with it, guess what? You could’ve walked out of the theater all on your own. So don’t give us this nonsense about liberals “forcing” anything on you. Freedom of speach also includes freedom to not listen. And to think, all you had to do to accomplish that was to walk away while you still had time. I know I haven’t seen that particular docu-whatever yet, and most likely won’t any time soon. It just disgusts me that so many people believe that not having faith in a person you didn’t vote for is unpatriotic…. “Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious,” Oscar Wilde.
September 9th, 2006 at 6:52 amShame on you Mickey! Your not supposed to have an agenda.
September 9th, 2006 at 9:57 amShocking abuse of public airwaves. Shame on you Walt Disney. I will sell my kids’ Disney shares, block ABC/Disney channels, and avoid Disney properties. Where is the visible public outrage? Where are the American statesmen? Pull their licence. Disney/ABC has abused the public trust. Our children are being slaughtered overseas not to defend liberty and the rule of law, but to crush it. Shame on us Americans for allowing this to happen.
September 9th, 2006 at 10:01 amLIKE I SAID THIS IS A SIGN OF THE TIMES. NOTHING CAN SURPRISE ME ANYMORE.
September 9th, 2006 at 11:31 amIMO they will “find” a way to air it on time and on schedule with little alteration if any. Because it is intended to bracket and underscore the President’s speech it must be broadcast, so they will find a way to do it and respond after the fact, if at all. Much the same way we often see prominent conservative speakers make racist remarks in a significant public forum and then “applogize”.
The co-ordination of this program between ABC, Disney and the White House, and the scale of the production and broadcast are only hints of what is yet to happen. How many remember the immediate effect Orsen Welle’s radio broadcast of War of the Worlds had on the listeners, and the legacy it still has?
It Seems rather obvious that we are being set up for another”event”
(which will in due course be blamed on Clinton and/or FDR).
What is not understood yet by most observers is that the people who run the president and who installed him plan never leave the White house or Congress. “Losing” by any means is not an option they plan for or will allow to occur regardless of legitimate public disagreement with their policies and activities.
September 9th, 2006 at 12:33 pmIt is amazing how the neocons are now, in desperate last chance style, comparing anyone who disagrees with anything this administration does as unamerican, unpatriotic, fascist, Hitler, unchristian, or whatever their favored ugly word is.
September 9th, 2006 at 3:04 pmTo anyone who compares this docu-drama to Moore’s films, ask yourself this question.
September 9th, 2006 at 5:16 pmIf Moore had stated untruths, where are all the lawsuits?
For ABC to advertise this based on the 9/11 commission report but have added fiction to it is false advertising at its worst. Is the audience supposed to know which part has factual basis and which part is fiction?
This is a bad idea and ABC should cancel. I would be happy to join a boycott of ABC and Disney.
The New World Order is at it again, or still would be a better way of putting it… When will the people of america wake up and see what is being done to our country… Our judicial system has been stolen from us as well as our government…. We have been made into corporate fictions and no-one is the wiser… We have 5 billion laws to replace the 10 commandants…. wher ever should we do about it… the new world order is in every aspect of our lives and we still do no know it… when will we wake up and smell the stench from the gangsters in control of our lives…
September 9th, 2006 at 7:53 pmI was raised in a liberal household, and one of the fundamental principles of liberalism at that time was the willingness to listen to other viewpoints. I guess that is tenet which neither side seems to endorse any more. Most of these 400 people have already made up their minds; and half of them knownot to watch this series.
It is sad to see what has happened to liberal thinking over these past 40+ years. I was a young man when JFK was our president, and I still think he was a good president and a great orator. And, in those days, being a liberal meant that you would consider alternative opinions. I don’t know that there are any liberals today like Kennedy; and being open-minded seems to be almost non-existent today.
September 10th, 2006 at 5:53 amComrades Bravo!
These traitors at ABC are betrayers of our new mother land. Where I come from, this Robert A. Iger would be dragged through the streets in front of the tomb of our glorious leader Vladimir Lenin and shot in public. The producers, directors, writers and anyone associated with this propaganda would be picked up in the early hours of the morning by our State Security Chief Lavrenty Beria (The Black Hand) and taken to a Siberian labor camp never too be heard from again.
For many years I have been loyal to ABC and the Pravda (truth) that our Socialist Liberal ally has put forth in order to progress our ultimate goal; the decline and absolute destruction of America and the capitalist traitorous pig’s like ABC.
I ask you Mr. Robert A. Iger, “Have you no shame Sir�
Comrades, we must not give up the fight. It has taken us many years to groom you and your elected leaders.
Remember what our great leader Nikita Khrushchev said:
“ We can’t expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism ”
It’s more important now then ever before that we stand together and stay focused! We can not allow this abomination of propaganda to go forward.
We must do whatever it takes to keep this film from airing on Sunday the 10th, 2006, we only have a few hours left.
It is your duty as loyal Liberal Socialist Democrats to rise up in solidarity and put a stop to this immediately!
Senator Harry Reid, one of our courageous and distinguished Senatorial leaders from the state of Nevada, reminded the capitalist traitorous pigs at ABC of their license from the FCC. Please Senator Reid, we’re your loyal comrades in arms and begging you to use all the glorious power you possess. You must stop this film! You must push forward with an iron fist and crush this despicable display of propaganda.
If this film isn’t stopped from airing on ABC, Sunday night, I’m afraid all our efforts since the cold war and the aspirations of our great leaders from glorious years past and Nikita Khrushchev’s dreams and predictions will have been lost.
If we loose now, the great Liberal Socialist Democratic Party, we have nurtured, will decline into the ash heaps of history never too be heard from again.
You must!…. I repeat, you must contact our comrades in arms at their offices in Washington.
Now I’ve done all the work all you have to do is contact our comrades below by e-mail or call:
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[...] Think Progress » Writer of ABC’s 9/11 ‘Docudrama’ Is Avowed Conservative Activist [...]
September 10th, 2006 at 11:50 pmI would never blame michael moore for his pseudo-documentaries.
he is one man up against the entire US right wing government
pseudo-documentaries.
he is just as believable as the BUSH gang.
September 11th, 2006 at 2:10 pm[...] The director of the mini-series is David L. Cunningham who is a board member of the neoconservative organizations (see below), and the writer is Cyrus Nowrasteh who, while claiming he’s a libertarian, supports neocon media projects that kowtow to the Bush line. It is hardly, as Nowrasteh has called his TV film, “an objective telling of the events of 9/11.” That would be ‘objective’ solely in the Ann Coulter sense of the word. [...]
September 11th, 2006 at 6:45 pmThank you Mr. Nowrasteh for first of all your interest and your effort to get this out to the public. We needed this! I feel that the docudrama was very well done and personally, I felt it was most accurate from my own research over the last five years.
September 12th, 2006 at 1:25 amThank you Mr. Nowrasteh for first of all your interest and your effort to get this out to the public. We needed this! I feel that the docudrama was very well done and personally, I felt it was most accurate from my own research over the last five years.
September 12th, 2006 at 1:25 am[...] Clinton spokesman Jay Carson told the LA Times that the film, which ABC is billing as a “docudrama†based on the 9/11 Commission’s findings, is “indisputably wrong.” Cyrus Nowrasteh admits that the film’s most controversial scene – where a Clinton administration official passes up an opportunity to kill Osama Bin Ladin — was based on nothing at all, telling a right-wing radio station that the scene was “improvised.†[...]
October 12th, 2006 at 1:36 pm