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		<title>By: Bea Skeptical</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-4/#comment-782232</link>
		<dc:creator>Bea Skeptical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9/11 Conspiracy
 
 
Here are some 9/11 conspiracy videos.  The first is a link to a full-length documentary called &quot;Loose Change&quot; (click on the link and follow the link to the video):
 
http://www.loosechange911.com/
 
 
Other shorter 9/11 conspiracy stuff I also found interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc2lih2qjEg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXpcnhwFlIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF8-8Kaa8jo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBVVs9hcmRY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmvGFVr6KNk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9/11 Conspiracy</p>
<p>Here are some 9/11 conspiracy videos.  The first is a link to a full-length documentary called &#8220;Loose Change&#8221; (click on the link and follow the link to the video):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.loosechange911.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.loosechange911.com/</a></p>
<p>Other shorter 9/11 conspiracy stuff I also found interesting:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc2lih2qjEg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc2lih2qjEg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXpcnhwFlIA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXpcnhwFlIA</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF8-8Kaa8jo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF8-8Kaa8jo</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBVVs9hcmRY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBVVs9hcmRY</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmvGFVr6KNk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmvGFVr6KNk</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=782232', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave von Ebers</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-4/#comment-778234</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave von Ebers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, not so sure the 9/11 conspiracy theories help our cause, ya know?

I mean, I&#039;m just sayin&#039; ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, not so sure the 9/11 conspiracy theories help our cause, ya know?</p>
<p>I mean, I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217; &#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=778234', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pockybot</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-4/#comment-776358</link>
		<dc:creator>pockybot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 03:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so sad to see so called anti Bush/anti war liberals believe in the official 9/11 &quot;incompetence&quot;/Osama fairy tales. Why dont the liberals support the war on terror if they think 9/11 was merely Osama and 19 arab fanatics? 

The neocons need Osama bin Goldstein to scare the public, and keep the liberals thinking 9/11 was just &quot;incompetence&quot;...one big whoopsy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so sad to see so called anti Bush/anti war liberals believe in the official 9/11 &#8220;incompetence&#8221;/Osama fairy tales. Why dont the liberals support the war on terror if they think 9/11 was merely Osama and 19 arab fanatics? </p>
<p>The neocons need Osama bin Goldstein to scare the public, and keep the liberals thinking 9/11 was just &#8220;incompetence&#8221;&#8230;one big whoopsy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=776358', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SUSA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-4/#comment-776191</link>
		<dc:creator>SUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It never accours to them that they might be out of the loop and just about everyone but Republicans can see the Bush Adminstration is sh*t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It never accours to them that they might be out of the loop and just about everyone but Republicans can see the Bush Adminstration is sh*t.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=776191', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: frenchfries</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-4/#comment-774759</link>
		<dc:creator>frenchfries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He refers to President Bush as a liar and a defeated presidentâ€¦They call him a failure, an incompetent.â€

He refers to the sky being blue and clouds being white. That&#039;s exactly what the anti-war-crowd has said for years now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He refers to President Bush as a liar and a defeated presidentâ€¦They call him a failure, an incompetent.â€</p>
<p>He refers to the sky being blue and clouds being white. That&#8217;s exactly what the anti-war-crowd has said for years now.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=774759', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: disgrunt &#187; Fox Analyst: New Tape Shows Al Qaeda Using â€˜All of the Antiwar Argumentsâ€™ And â€˜Turning Them Back Against Usâ€™</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-4/#comment-774751</link>
		<dc:creator>disgrunt &#187; Fox Analyst: New Tape Shows Al Qaeda Using â€˜All of the Antiwar Argumentsâ€™ And â€˜Turning Them Back Against Usâ€™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 14:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Source: Think Progress [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fox Analyst: New Tape Shows Al Qaeda Using â€˜All of the Antiwar Argumentsâ€™ And â€˜Turning Them Back Against Usâ€™ &#171; Oldthinker news</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-4/#comment-774537</link>
		<dc:creator>Fox Analyst: New Tape Shows Al Qaeda Using â€˜All of the Antiwar Argumentsâ€™ And â€˜Turning Them Back Against Usâ€™ &#171; Oldthinker news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Think Progress &#124; Sept 2, 2006  Early today, Al Qaeda #2 Ayman al-Zawahiri issued a new videotape in which he appeared alongside a man â€œidentified as an American member of the terror network.â€ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Think Progress | Sept 2, 2006  Early today, Al Qaeda #2 Ayman al-Zawahiri issued a new videotape in which he appeared alongside a man â€œidentified as an American member of the terror network.â€ [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=774537', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fox Analyst: New Tape Shows Al Qaeda Using â€˜All of the Antiwar Argumentsâ€™ And â€˜Turning Them Back Against Usâ€™ &#171; Oldthinker news</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-4/#comment-774536</link>
		<dc:creator>Fox Analyst: New Tape Shows Al Qaeda Using â€˜All of the Antiwar Argumentsâ€™ And â€˜Turning Them Back Against Usâ€™ &#171; Oldthinker news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Think Progress &#124; Sept 2, 2006 Early today, Al Qaeda #2 Ayman al-Zawahiri issued a new videotape in which he appeared alongside a man â€œidentified as an American member of the terror network.â€ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Think Progress | Sept 2, 2006 Early today, Al Qaeda #2 Ayman al-Zawahiri issued a new videotape in which he appeared alongside a man â€œidentified as an American member of the terror network.â€ [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=774536', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TomPaine</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-4/#comment-774016</link>
		<dc:creator>TomPaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Bin Laden is dead 100% 

here was an article on Aljazeeras But then dissapeared after half and hour 

Comment by Tobey Tall â€” September 2, 2006 @ 4:17 pm&lt;/em&gt;

I believe he has been dead for awhile also.  It would do us only harm to release that he is dead.  And it would take power away from the chickenhawks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Bin Laden is dead 100% </p>
<p>here was an article on Aljazeeras But then dissapeared after half and hour </p>
<p>Comment by Tobey Tall â€” September 2, 2006 @ 4:17 pm</em></p>
<p>I believe he has been dead for awhile also.  It would do us only harm to release that he is dead.  And it would take power away from the chickenhawks.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=774016', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: what now toons</title>
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		<dc:creator>what now toons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 08:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now while the tension is high, like a goddamm piano wire, the fear factor comes in, liquid bombs, terror notes, pen guns like James Bond, terror every other word you hear, know thy enemy programs, and, let us not forget, let me repeat, let us not forget  that back in 2004, there were terror alerts every time Kerry showed a lead in the polls, then months after the presidential election was over we had Thom Ridge saying he was told to do the terror alerts by the White House, even though he disagreed with them.  A fact he shared with us as he was leaving his post as head of Homeland security, safely after the election was over.
     Now we see the same pattern  repeating itself as we approach the November elections.   The question is will the American people fall for the same tactic, and yes I call it a tactic, and I do so because Tom Ridge had the balls to say the terror alerts of 2004 were not from him, but the White House.  And boy, did they disappear after the election a fact we all have lived with.
     It&#039;s in this sprit I present my latest cartoon, &quot;homeland Fear Factor&quot;
www.whatnowtoons.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now while the tension is high, like a goddamm piano wire, the fear factor comes in, liquid bombs, terror notes, pen guns like James Bond, terror every other word you hear, know thy enemy programs, and, let us not forget, let me repeat, let us not forget  that back in 2004, there were terror alerts every time Kerry showed a lead in the polls, then months after the presidential election was over we had Thom Ridge saying he was told to do the terror alerts by the White House, even though he disagreed with them.  A fact he shared with us as he was leaving his post as head of Homeland security, safely after the election was over.<br />
     Now we see the same pattern  repeating itself as we approach the November elections.   The question is will the American people fall for the same tactic, and yes I call it a tactic, and I do so because Tom Ridge had the balls to say the terror alerts of 2004 were not from him, but the White House.  And boy, did they disappear after the election a fact we all have lived with.<br />
     It&#8217;s in this sprit I present my latest cartoon, &#8220;homeland Fear Factor&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.whatnowtoons.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatnowtoons.com</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=773743', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bones</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-4/#comment-771869</link>
		<dc:creator>bones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 21:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey , heres another arguement to leave Iraq that &quot;Al Queda&quot; sympathizers might make:

U.S. deaths in Iraq, war on terror surpass 9/11 toll

 As the fifth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attack on the United States approaches, another somber benchmark has just been passed.

The announcement Sunday of four more U.S. military deaths in Iraq raises the death toll to 2,974 for U.S. military service members in Iraq and in what the Bush administration calls the war on terror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey , heres another arguement to leave Iraq that &#8220;Al Queda&#8221; sympathizers might make:</p>
<p>U.S. deaths in Iraq, war on terror surpass 9/11 toll</p>
<p> As the fifth anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attack on the United States approaches, another somber benchmark has just been passed.</p>
<p>The announcement Sunday of four more U.S. military deaths in Iraq raises the death toll to 2,974 for U.S. military service members in Iraq and in what the Bush administration calls the war on terror.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=771869', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bones</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-4/#comment-771793</link>
		<dc:creator>bones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in this pre-midterm election &quot;NO ONE&quot; would lie about killing millions of Taliban , Al Queda, Islamofascists - even though they&#039;ve DONE NOTHING for the last 2 years - just to give US voters the &quot;impression&quot; they were actually doing something to win votes. Liars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in this pre-midterm election &#8220;NO ONE&#8221; would lie about killing millions of Taliban , Al Queda, Islamofascists &#8211; even though they&#8217;ve DONE NOTHING for the last 2 years &#8211; just to give US voters the &#8220;impression&#8221; they were actually doing something to win votes. Liars.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=771793', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Exley</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-3/#comment-771774</link>
		<dc:creator>Exley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good news from Afghanistan

&lt;strong&gt;NATO: 200 Taliban Killed &lt;/strong&gt;
By NOOR KHAN, Associated Press Writer 

PASHMUL, Afghanistan - Warplanes and artillery pounded Taliban fighters hiding in orchards Sunday during a big Afghan- NATO offensive that the alliance said killed more than 200 militants in its first two days. 

If the estimate is confirmed, the battle would be one of the deadliest since U.S.-led forces ousted the Taliban regime five years ago. An Associated Press reporter who traveled to Pashmul saw warplanes drop five bombs within about 20 minutes on orchards where militants were believed hiding. The reporter was about 300 yards away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news from Afghanistan</p>
<p><strong>NATO: 200 Taliban Killed </strong><br />
By NOOR KHAN, Associated Press Writer </p>
<p>PASHMUL, Afghanistan &#8211; Warplanes and artillery pounded Taliban fighters hiding in orchards Sunday during a big Afghan- NATO offensive that the alliance said killed more than 200 militants in its first two days. </p>
<p>If the estimate is confirmed, the battle would be one of the deadliest since U.S.-led forces ousted the Taliban regime five years ago. An Associated Press reporter who traveled to Pashmul saw warplanes drop five bombs within about 20 minutes on orchards where militants were believed hiding. The reporter was about 300 yards away.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=771774', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WORFEUS</title>
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		<dc:creator>WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy

Who are you talking to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy</p>
<p>Who are you talking to?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=771707', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-3/#comment-771628</link>
		<dc:creator>WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But your idea that maybe they are sympathetic to the President because he does stupid things that help their recruiting efforts is a good one, and may hold water. I don&#039;t think its the correct one, but it might be. Its certainly one I&#039;ve considered, and am holding onto as a possible explanation.

Don&#039;t be so sensitive UnB. Geesh you know I never make a weak argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But your idea that maybe they are sympathetic to the President because he does stupid things that help their recruiting efforts is a good one, and may hold water. I don&#8217;t think its the correct one, but it might be. Its certainly one I&#8217;ve considered, and am holding onto as a possible explanation.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be so sensitive UnB. Geesh you know I never make a weak argument.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=771628', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: cmw</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-3/#comment-771623</link>
		<dc:creator>cmw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Qaeda is CIA, don&#039;t ya get it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Qaeda is CIA, don&#8217;t ya get it<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=771623', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-3/#comment-771589</link>
		<dc:creator>WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is condescending about it? I wasn&#039;t trying to be. I am just pointing out that clearly I disagree with you. I agree with you on most things so why take this so poorly? I am not criticizing you I am just pointing out that I don&#039;t need physical proof or facts to determine everything to me.

And I think you&#039;re wrong about the source and purposes of these video tapes. My words not gospel. Maybe I&#039;m wrong. But I can only tell you what I think. And I think that there is no way these videos and the terror alerts are anything but subterfuge and diversions from problems for the President. And besides, I asked my magic 8 Ball and it said all signs point to yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is condescending about it? I wasn&#8217;t trying to be. I am just pointing out that clearly I disagree with you. I agree with you on most things so why take this so poorly? I am not criticizing you I am just pointing out that I don&#8217;t need physical proof or facts to determine everything to me.</p>
<p>And I think you&#8217;re wrong about the source and purposes of these video tapes. My words not gospel. Maybe I&#8217;m wrong. But I can only tell you what I think. And I think that there is no way these videos and the terror alerts are anything but subterfuge and diversions from problems for the President. And besides, I asked my magic 8 Ball and it said all signs point to yes.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=771589', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-3/#comment-771522</link>
		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worfeus,

How you took what I said and spun it into that condescending post is beyond me...  I expect more from you.  Whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worfeus,</p>
<p>How you took what I said and spun it into that condescending post is beyond me&#8230;  I expect more from you.  Whatever.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=771522', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/02/qaeda-tape/comment-page-3/#comment-771492</link>
		<dc:creator>WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 17:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I think that itâ€™s following the trail of facts with logical deduction that proves cases or points.&lt;/em&gt;

Comment by unbelievable â€” September 3, 2006 @ 10:43 am


Really? Thats the &quot;only&quot; method of deduction? 

I take it you don&#039;t teach science. Because science does not rely soley on facts for proving a theory. Science relies often on &quot;evidence&quot;, not facts, in order to conclude the validity of a given theory. 

A good example of this is the finding of planets by astronomers. Planet hunting has been going on for some time. And astronomers have documented dozens of new planets over the last decade. 

Yet they don&#039;t have one &quot;fact&quot; to prove ANY of these planets even exist.

In fact, they&#039;ve NEVER EVEN SEEN ONE!!!

But they know they&#039;re there. How? Simple. By using a method of detection known as Doppler Shift \Stellar Wobble, scientists are able to detect variances in speed by measuring shifts in light caused by velocity as the star wobbles on its axis, caused by the velocity of the turning around the center of its own mass, and the gravitational &quot;tug&quot; of the planet.

They don&#039;t see the planet. 

The don&#039;t have any rocks or soil samples from the planet. 

No probes or surveys have photographed the planet. 

In fact, they have no physical evidence or &quot;facts&quot; to produce to show the planet exists other than &quot;circumstancial evidence&quot; to prove its there.  

But they know it is.

And in a similar light, I am able to detect the obvious of bullshit from the administration and their department of homeland security, when they release video tape from Al Quaida and tell me to be afraid.

I don&#039;t see them directly editing the tapes, or calling up Bin Laden and asking him to put one out. I don&#039;t see the vault where many of them may be stored waiting for future release.

But by the looking at voluminous circumstantial evidence I am able to locate the precense of bullshit, by observing the &quot;TIMING&quot; of the terrorist threats, homeland security alerts and releasing of video tapes, in conjunction to the timing of obvious problems and issues for the President and his administration.

I call it bullshit detecting, an art that has served me well throughout my years on the planet.

Keith Olberman did a segment twice now on the timing of the release of terrorist alerts (ALL WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE BOGUS) and problems for the President throughout the last 3 years. It was ASTOUNDING, and only the most &quot;trusting of souls&quot; could walk away without at least a healthy portion of suspicion with regards to the nature of these alerts and the reason for their release.

We agree on most things Unb, but not on this. I don&#039;t need a smoking gun to put ever puzzle together. I am perfectly capable of using the brains God gave me to assemble the obvious evidence, timing and motivation, couple this with the character as displayed be these men, and the results of their so called &quot;terror alerts&quot; to determine that there is some sort of skullduggery going on here that can&#039;t quite see, but whose signs are everywhere if I just look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I think that itâ€™s following the trail of facts with logical deduction that proves cases or points.</em></p>
<p>Comment by unbelievable â€” September 3, 2006 @ 10:43 am</p>
<p>Really? Thats the &#8220;only&#8221; method of deduction? </p>
<p>I take it you don&#8217;t teach science. Because science does not rely soley on facts for proving a theory. Science relies often on &#8220;evidence&#8221;, not facts, in order to conclude the validity of a given theory. </p>
<p>A good example of this is the finding of planets by astronomers. Planet hunting has been going on for some time. And astronomers have documented dozens of new planets over the last decade. </p>
<p>Yet they don&#8217;t have one &#8220;fact&#8221; to prove ANY of these planets even exist.</p>
<p>In fact, they&#8217;ve NEVER EVEN SEEN ONE!!!</p>
<p>But they know they&#8217;re there. How? Simple. By using a method of detection known as Doppler Shift \Stellar Wobble, scientists are able to detect variances in speed by measuring shifts in light caused by velocity as the star wobbles on its axis, caused by the velocity of the turning around the center of its own mass, and the gravitational &#8220;tug&#8221; of the planet.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t see the planet. </p>
<p>The don&#8217;t have any rocks or soil samples from the planet. </p>
<p>No probes or surveys have photographed the planet. </p>
<p>In fact, they have no physical evidence or &#8220;facts&#8221; to produce to show the planet exists other than &#8220;circumstancial evidence&#8221; to prove its there.  </p>
<p>But they know it is.</p>
<p>And in a similar light, I am able to detect the obvious of bullshit from the administration and their department of homeland security, when they release video tape from Al Quaida and tell me to be afraid.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see them directly editing the tapes, or calling up Bin Laden and asking him to put one out. I don&#8217;t see the vault where many of them may be stored waiting for future release.</p>
<p>But by the looking at voluminous circumstantial evidence I am able to locate the precense of bullshit, by observing the &#8220;TIMING&#8221; of the terrorist threats, homeland security alerts and releasing of video tapes, in conjunction to the timing of obvious problems and issues for the President and his administration.</p>
<p>I call it bullshit detecting, an art that has served me well throughout my years on the planet.</p>
<p>Keith Olberman did a segment twice now on the timing of the release of terrorist alerts (ALL WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE BOGUS) and problems for the President throughout the last 3 years. It was ASTOUNDING, and only the most &#8220;trusting of souls&#8221; could walk away without at least a healthy portion of suspicion with regards to the nature of these alerts and the reason for their release.</p>
<p>We agree on most things Unb, but not on this. I don&#8217;t need a smoking gun to put ever puzzle together. I am perfectly capable of using the brains God gave me to assemble the obvious evidence, timing and motivation, couple this with the character as displayed be these men, and the results of their so called &#8220;terror alerts&#8221; to determine that there is some sort of skullduggery going on here that can&#8217;t quite see, but whose signs are everywhere if I just look.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=771492', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Cyra Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyra Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 16:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, Santo is here. Sigh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, Santo is here. Sigh&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=771360', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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