Comments on: ABC’s 9/11 Docudrama Mangles Facts, Smears Washington Post http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:57:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Episode 5: God-less America, Land That I Love « Brian “Arkle” Webber’s Weblog http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-4697158 Episode 5: God-less America, Land That I Love « Brian “Arkle” Webber’s Weblog Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:05:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-4697158 [...] Path to 9/11 “Inaccuracies” (I call them lies, but hey not my website): http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/ Colorado ranks 10th in personal income in 2007: [...] [...] Path to 9/11 “Inaccuracies” (I call them lies, but hey not my website): http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/ Colorado ranks 10th in personal income in 2007: [...]

]]> By: Willy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-974627 Willy Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:53:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-974627 When you get right down to it this was just a Hollywood movie that was loosely based on real events. Those who pick it apart have more to hide than those who accept what it is for what it is. The only thing that really matters is that the FBI dropped the ball on the investigations leading up to 9-11 and forced out the one man who could have stopped or seriously reduced the actions and events on 9-11. When you get right down to it this was just a Hollywood movie that was loosely based on real events. Those who pick it apart have more to hide than those who accept what it is for what it is. The only thing that really matters is that the FBI dropped the ball on the investigations leading up to 9-11 and forced out the one man who could have stopped or seriously reduced the actions and events on 9-11.

]]> By: USWarrior » Blog Archive » Oh!pinion 2006 March http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-971005 USWarrior » Blog Archive » Oh!pinion 2006 March Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:14:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-971005 [...] Think Progress ABC s 9/11 Docudrama Mangles Facts, Smears He s not resolute terror warrior he plays on TV, he s Rove s lying mouthpiece who constantly mouths misinformation. Boycott ABC s local stations to pressure the network. [...] [...] Think Progress ABC s 9/11 Docudrama Mangles Facts, Smears He s not resolute terror warrior he plays on TV, he s Rove s lying mouthpiece who constantly mouths misinformation. Boycott ABC s local stations to pressure the network. [...]

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]]> By: Mark http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-843712 Mark Wed, 20 Sep 2006 02:58:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-843712 Well at least we agree on somethings .Mark never judge a Abc/book /man by its cover Lol Well at least we agree on somethings .Mark
never judge a Abc/book /man by its cover Lol

]]> By: Dallas http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-834751 Dallas Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:21:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-834751 You cite one thing as being inaccurate, but you use a different article as proof of inaccuracy when the original premise was still true. Why don't YOU tell the truth for once. If you would do a little honest research and reporting, you would find that the writer of "The Path to 9/11" is NOT a right-wing Republican. You liberals SCREAM freedom of the press whenever you want to promote YOUR "side", but the same is not even allowed for the truth from the other side. WHY is there no such uproar from you for the Assassination film??? You are hypocrites - one and all, and America knows it! You cite one thing as being inaccurate, but you use a different article as proof of inaccuracy when the original premise was still true. Why don’t YOU tell the truth for once.

If you would do a little honest research and reporting, you would find that the writer of “The Path to 9/11″ is NOT a right-wing Republican. You liberals SCREAM freedom of the press whenever you want to promote YOUR “side”, but the same is not even allowed for the truth from the other side. WHY is there no such uproar from you for the Assassination film???
You are hypocrites – one and all, and America knows it!

]]> By: paul http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-809612 paul Wed, 13 Sep 2006 02:51:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-809612 The way I heard it explained was that ABC wanted sponsors, but nobody wanted to buy the spots, because 9/11 is still to sensitive. For example, scene of tower collapsing and people running for their lives in the street - then cut to commercial for Boeing, or GE, or Pepsi (not the best way to try to sell stuff). Sponsors may have also thought, with the controversial subject matter, that it wasn't worth having Cindy Sheehan and company show up at the HQ and endure all the boycotts everbody has been talking about on this site. Or the Bush adminstration is using US troops to secretly support opium production in Afganistan and using the drug money to fund the movie and replace ABC executives with zombie robots that live off the blood of seniors, poor people, and immigrants. The way I heard it explained was that ABC wanted sponsors, but nobody wanted to buy the spots, because 9/11 is still to sensitive. For example, scene of tower collapsing and people running for their lives in the street – then cut to commercial for Boeing, or GE, or Pepsi (not the best way to try to sell stuff). Sponsors may have also thought, with the controversial subject matter, that it wasn’t worth having Cindy Sheehan and company show up at the HQ and endure all the boycotts everbody has been talking about on this site. Or the Bush adminstration is using US troops to secretly support opium production in Afganistan and using the drug money to fund the movie and replace ABC executives with zombie robots that live off the blood of seniors, poor people, and immigrants.

]]> By: Bob http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-809104 Bob Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:13:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-809104 I was struck by the fact that "the path to 9/11" was shown commercial free. I can't remember ever seeing a five hour block of time on a major network without commercial (save the 9/11 news coverage itself). So if there was no money to be made, why was this shown? I have learned to "follow the money" when attempting to uncover motives. What was the motive of ABC here? I was struck by the fact that “the path to 9/11″ was shown commercial free. I can’t remember ever seeing a five hour block of time on a major network without commercial (save the 9/11 news coverage itself).

So if there was no money to be made, why was this shown? I have learned to “follow the money” when attempting to uncover motives. What was the motive of ABC here?

]]> By: paul http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-808414 paul Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:46:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-808414 Drifter, Hey, you are right on. The good news is, we will, as a nation, put all the politics behind us. The bad news is, we'll lose a U.S. city before it happens. Paul Drifter,
Hey, you are right on. The good news is, we will, as a nation, put all the politics behind us. The bad news is, we’ll lose a U.S. city before it happens.
Paul

]]> By: The Drifter http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-808095 The Drifter Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:32:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-808095 Wow....I did not see this show, but did hear that there was some hype surrounding it! I think what shocks me most is that "The Terrorist" are winning, they have taken the division in this country and divided it even more, they don't have to tear us down economically they are doing it socially, "Brother against Brother" What happened to America? or a better question is...... What can be done to heal America? Someone has come in and divided it and it wasn't Bush and it wasn't Clinton..... Wow, read the posts and the HATRED! Cliche I know.....but a Country divided cannot stand! So I guess we should just all pack up and let Islam and it's great hate for anyone not like them and let them take over....... This is one person who is SAD at what you all have perpetuated........ The solution is not Bush and it isn't John Kerry or Al Gore, it's much deeper than that...it's US! Yes you and me getting rid of the politics and coming together as one NATION or they will have already defeted us! Conratulations! The Drifter Wow….I did not see this show, but did hear that there was some hype surrounding it!

I think what shocks me most is that “The Terrorist” are winning, they have taken the division in this country and divided it even more, they don’t have to tear us down economically they are doing it socially, “Brother against Brother”

What happened to America? or a better question is……

What can be done to heal America?

Someone has come in and divided it and it wasn’t Bush and it wasn’t Clinton…..

Wow, read the posts and the HATRED!

Cliche I know…..but a Country divided cannot stand!

So I guess we should just all pack up and let Islam and it’s great hate for anyone not like them and let them take over…….

This is one person who is SAD at what you all have perpetuated……..

The solution is not Bush and it isn’t John Kerry or Al Gore, it’s much deeper than that…it’s US! Yes you and me getting rid of the politics and coming together as one NATION or they will have already defeted us!

Conratulations!

The Drifter

]]> By: Jennifer http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-806730 Jennifer Tue, 12 Sep 2006 06:03:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-806730 Media, propoganda, point of view.... Do we really want to thwart the freedom to show a television program? I mean really! When we speak of freedom, speak of civil liberties, speak of constitutional rights, and then make demands that a "dramatic representation," of historical events are portrayed (or not) through a given lens... well then, what are the ramifications? Come on guys, I don't like Bush... but I think people are intelligent, they can draw their own conclusions. And those that will be influenced by a television show, well? Anyone with half a brain who saw Farenheit 911 knows that this flick was loaded with propoganda, and filtered through a very narrow lens. Was there some truth? I am sure. Should we take it as absolute, as truth? Umm... My point is, media is media, people have their points of view, which are not shaped by merely a few disputed scenes in a miniseries. Media, propoganda, point of view…. Do we really want to thwart the freedom to show a television program? I mean really! When we speak of freedom, speak of civil liberties, speak of constitutional rights, and then make demands that a “dramatic representation,” of historical events are portrayed (or not) through a given lens… well then, what are the ramifications?

Come on guys, I don’t like Bush… but I think people are intelligent, they can draw their own conclusions. And those that will be influenced by a television show, well?

Anyone with half a brain who saw Farenheit 911 knows that this flick was loaded with propoganda, and filtered through a very narrow lens. Was there some truth? I am sure. Should we take it as absolute, as truth? Umm…

My point is, media is media, people have their points of view, which are not shaped by merely a few disputed scenes in a miniseries.

]]> By: Rainy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-806128 Rainy Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:09:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-806128 The point is it should not be a Rep vs Dem issue, it should be a little guy vs big guy issue. No matter who is in control, the media will be controlled and manipulated. Events of the world will be manipulated to distract from unfavorable events. Low ratings for the President, start a war, that will make him increase about 10points. Atleast for a little while. When Bush was at his lowest, Israel then invaded Lebanon and battled the Palestinians forming 2 fronts---Bush's pts rose when Condi went over and a UN res was drafted... hmmmm coincedence??? They are all the same... just make sure that you have as much info from as many different sources as you can... if you trust only Fox, you have only one view, but if you use the net, read books, view documentaries on History/Discovery/TLC, but please notice that international media such as BBC are not censored as the US media and you can learn alot about US stories that they cover that we never hear about! The point is it should not be a Rep vs Dem issue, it should be a little guy vs big guy issue. No matter who is in control, the media will be controlled and manipulated. Events of the world will be manipulated to distract from unfavorable events. Low ratings for the President, start a war, that will make him increase about 10points. Atleast for a little while. When Bush was at his lowest, Israel then invaded Lebanon and battled the Palestinians forming 2 fronts—Bush’s pts rose when Condi went over and a UN res was drafted… hmmmm coincedence???

They are all the same… just make sure that you have as much info from as many different sources as you can… if you trust only Fox, you have only one view, but if you use the net, read books, view documentaries on History/Discovery/TLC, but please notice that international media such as BBC are not censored as the US media and you can learn alot about US stories that they cover that we never hear about!

]]> By: Terry Weaver http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-805645 Terry Weaver Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:09:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-805645 ABC has been blocked at my house. No big loss. I came to this site looking for a list of the advertisers that sponsored this piece of crap only to find out that they showed it commercial free. That was pretty smart, I guess they thought, kind of like our politicians do, that I am too lazy or incompetent...that I'll just let it go. Nope, although we only watche ABC a few hours a week, we'll just compile a list of the sponsors of those shows and write to tell them how we will no longer be watching ABC or buying their products. I'm sure my business really doesn't matter one least bit to these folks, but it sure makes me feel better. As far as the comparison between ABC's little gem and the junk that Michael Moore produces....MOST people know that there is a difference between a docudrama produced by a Network News/Entertainment division and one produced by an ultra liberal producer/director with an agenda. We expect the factual truth from our networks, and know that we're getting the truth as they see it from directors such as Moore and Stone. So for those of you trying to advance that notion, c'mon, maybe you're not smarter than that, but the majority of us are :-) ABC has been blocked at my house. No big loss. I came to this site looking for a list of the advertisers that sponsored this piece of crap only to find out that they showed it commercial free. That was pretty smart, I guess they thought, kind of like our politicians do, that I am too lazy or incompetent…that I’ll just let it go. Nope, although we only watche ABC a few hours a week, we’ll just compile a list of the sponsors of those shows and write to tell them how we will no longer be watching ABC or buying their products. I’m sure my business really doesn’t matter one least bit to these folks, but it sure makes me feel better. As far as the comparison between ABC’s little gem and the junk that Michael Moore produces….MOST people know that there is a difference between a docudrama produced by a Network News/Entertainment division and one produced by an ultra liberal producer/director with an agenda. We expect the factual truth from our networks, and know that we’re getting the truth as they see it from directors such as Moore and Stone. So for those of you trying to advance that notion, c’mon, maybe you’re not smarter than that, but the majority of us are :-)

]]> By: Jane http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-805520 Jane Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:25:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-805520 George Bush hates freedom. If you were free, he wouldn't be. He committed treason. Luckily for him, you aren't free. George Bush hates freedom. If you were free, he wouldn’t be. He committed treason. Luckily for him, you aren’t free.

]]> By: Pat http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-804502 Pat Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:16:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-804502 I find it rather appealing that the liberals are now understanding what us conservatives go through all the time with the media. However, you are not used to getting hit hard, so it is quite frustrating. What you need to understand is that the Clinton administration wasn't even as close to perfect as you think they were. He had 8-10 chances to get Osama and didn't have the balls to do it. You liberals think we can just talk to the terrorists and be their buddies, sorry to break it to you, they don't think like we do. It is about time the world revisited Clinton's mishaps and understood that the most wanted terrorist should not be alive. However, to make yourselves feel better you will just go on Bush bashing instead of realizing he isn't the devil and is only trying to protect YOU. Grow up liberals. I find it rather appealing that the liberals are now understanding what us conservatives go through all the time with the media. However, you are not used to getting hit hard, so it is quite frustrating. What you need to understand is that the Clinton administration wasn’t even as close to perfect as you think they were. He had 8-10 chances to get Osama and didn’t have the balls to do it. You liberals think we can just talk to the terrorists and be their buddies, sorry to break it to you, they don’t think like we do. It is about time the world revisited Clinton’s mishaps and understood that the most wanted terrorist should not be alive. However, to make yourselves feel better you will just go on Bush bashing instead of realizing he isn’t the devil and is only trying to protect YOU. Grow up liberals.

]]> By: JG http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-804159 JG Mon, 11 Sep 2006 15:35:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-804159 <a href="http://www.bluestateembassy.com/BSEBlog.html" rel="nofollow">Fictionalizing historic events can be fun!</a> Fictionalizing historic events can be fun!

]]> By: Ralph Dean http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-4/#comment-803829 Ralph Dean Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:05:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-803829 ABC just helped the Terrorist Divide the country more. The lies will create a situation that will last for years. People believe what they see as fact. Admitting that ABC LIED to the American population does not change this. I will not watch ABC until I see this Lie admitted by ABC management and they quit their position at ABC! I feel they helped the Terrorist. Ralph ABC just helped the Terrorist Divide the country more. The lies will create a situation that will last for years. People believe what they see as fact. Admitting that ABC LIED to the American population does not change this. I will not watch ABC until I see this Lie admitted by ABC management and they quit their position at ABC! I feel they helped the Terrorist.

Ralph

]]> By: Neal http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-3/#comment-802237 Neal Mon, 11 Sep 2006 06:10:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-802237 What I think is somewhat ironic, is how everyone has been in such an uproar about The Path To 9/11 being propaganda and filled with falsehoods, yet those same people were out praising Michael Moore for the "truth" he showed the world with his film. (As opposed to a documenary.) It seems the big issue is that The Path To 9/11 might not be all true... yet, clearly Mr. Moore, a master of editing, made a propaganda film, rather than tring to stay as close to the truth as possible. Only after viewing Path, will we know how much or how little it "strayed" from the truth. And likely, as with Moore's movie, there will be experts on both sides. So, what I say that the great thing about the USA is that we are free to watch both films and then discuss them. Discuss what was less than truthful. What was factual. And the ramifications of what has happened. It is far better than never having seen either of those films. And, after watching the first half of Path, I am very glad ABC did not cave in to political pressure. What I think is somewhat ironic, is how everyone has been in such an uproar about The Path To 9/11 being propaganda and filled with falsehoods, yet those same people were out praising Michael Moore for the “truth” he showed the world with his film. (As opposed to a documenary.) It seems the big issue is that The Path To 9/11 might not be all true… yet, clearly Mr. Moore, a master of editing, made a propaganda film, rather than tring to stay as close to the truth as possible. Only after viewing Path, will we know how much or how little it “strayed” from the truth. And likely, as with Moore’s movie, there will be experts on both sides.

So, what I say that the great thing about the USA is that we are free to watch both films and then discuss them. Discuss what was less than truthful. What was factual. And the ramifications of what has happened. It is far better than never having seen either of those films. And, after watching the first half of Path, I am very glad ABC did not cave in to political pressure.

]]> By: Rainy http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-3/#comment-801523 Rainy Mon, 11 Sep 2006 03:32:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-801523 Total propaganda. Has neo-nazism written all over it. If anything I think it makes US look bad.... incompetant, and causing conflict elsewhere. We told the Pakistanis took soon about the missiles, they told, then there was shooting, then we were shooting, then the guys who were helping us were shooting. It was a mess. But again it was FICTION!!! the first thing my local news reporter said after the movie was " you have been watching a FICTIONALIZED ACCOUNT" PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND!!!! I thought the comments on my local ABC's board were funny... those people had no clue. They are all terrorfied of another attack. That is what they want. Just like Hitler. He blew up the Reichstag in 1933, called it terrorism, took away the people's rights in order to protect them from the bad guys, then--- DICTATOR!!! Dont fall for the propaganda. Total propaganda. Has neo-nazism written all over it. If anything I think it makes US look bad…. incompetant, and causing conflict elsewhere. We told the Pakistanis took soon about the missiles, they told, then there was shooting, then we were shooting, then the guys who were helping us were shooting. It was a mess. But again it was FICTION!!! the first thing my local news reporter said after the movie was ” you have been watching a FICTIONALIZED ACCOUNT” PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND!!!!

I thought the comments on my local ABC’s board were funny… those people had no clue. They are all terrorfied of another attack. That is what they want. Just like Hitler. He blew up the Reichstag in 1933, called it terrorism, took away the people’s rights in order to protect them from the bad guys, then— DICTATOR!!! Dont fall for the propaganda.

]]> By: Matt http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/comment-page-3/#comment-801119 Matt Mon, 11 Sep 2006 02:14:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/05/abc-smears-washington-post/#comment-801119 This movie is powerful...are you guys watching it? Clinton totally messed up guys-I think there should be some major legal action against him- it's so obvious that President Clinton is responsible for letting 9/11 happen- very eye opening. You guys should really watch it. This movie is powerful…are you guys watching it? Clinton totally messed up guys-I think there should be some major legal action against him- it’s so obvious that President Clinton is responsible for letting 9/11 happen- very eye opening. You guys should really watch it.

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