The pattern is clear, make friends with country, arm that country, then make war against it for having arms or nuclear technology sanctioned by U.S.

But it was most likely made within 200 miles of where we were.

Five years after 9/11, Pakistan appears to have replaced Afghanistan as the group’s center of gravity.

Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, are widely believed to be in the more remote parts of this country. Two of the London subway bombers planned and trained for their mission here.

And al Qaeda’s production company, As Sahab, also apparently does much of its work in Pakistan.

The Pakistani government has cut a deal with the Taliban in Waziristan province that essentially allows the group to run its own affairs as long as it promises not to export terror across the border to Afghanistan
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Jason don’t you get tired of being wrong?

How is that peaceful Jason Schindler?

The theological implications of your assertion are revolutionary! This means that God never dealt with Sun Tzu, one of His creatures who walked on this earth some 1,400 years before He sent His son to walk among us!

Jason, your God has limits! He is not omniscient! The very foundation of the Biblical understanding of God and Christ is wrong, according to you.

Have you read the Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey? If not, you should give it a read. I think you’ll find the religion in its pages is far more like what you espouse than what is written in the New Testament.

OK, you’ve convinced me. Especially with your unAmerican spelling of Pearl Harbor. I promise to “aggressively confront” you whenever you “use these subtle tactics” and to “vigorously destroy” you by any and all means, because that is what” you “intend to do to” us. You’ve been warned.

You blasphemous fool! You say “Jesus never dealt with Sun Tsu”, which certainly suggests that He wouldn’t know how to do so, but YOU do! Jesus dealt with very subtle Jewish Pharisees, who like their modern “Christian Pharisee” counterparts offered themselves as gates to heaven, which they shut to anyone outside their tight circle.

If we make pre-emptive strikes our foreign policy – what limits are there? Such a policy could be used against a country for simply disagreeing with U.S. policy. BushCo has already made it clear that they are willing to use pre-emptive verbal attacks against its “enemies”, even if they are fellow American citizens. What stops them from going from “defensive” pre-emption to “offensive pre-emption” (i.e. imperialism)? NOTHING – except the checks and balances of citizens, which they are already eroding.

As I stated before, Jesus never dealt with Sun Tsu, in which tactics are subtle. It is easy for those to understand that it was right for America to fight Japan in WWII after they bombed Pearl Harbour, but today’s enemies completely erode one’s ability to fight before they attack. This means that one must aggressively confront those who use these subtle tactics and vigorously destroy them by any and all means, because that is what they intend to do to you.

Comment by Briseadh na Faire — September 6, 2006 @ 11:51 am

Ohhhhh, I think he is posting as Roger Roger on another thread

Jason must have a difficult time typing with his foot in his mouth, haven’t heard from him since I corrected his views on the founding fathers….

It’s fascinating that the fundamentalists do not realize that Christ spent most of his ministry “facing down” the hypocritical members of his own faith, the Jewish Pharisees and Sadduces, with their distortions of God’s commandments. Further, for me, there is no true “liberty” (which includes a very important state of mind component) is “freedom” is gained through atrocities such as torture, indiscriminate bombing, and the like.

I guess we can just delete this passage from the Bible:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

After all, Christ must not known what he was talking about. Surely the people of Israel in His day had secured God’s gift of liberty? No? They were oppressed by the Romans? Well, then, Christ should have preached facing down the Romans! Christ got it wrong, according to Jason.

Before you say something like that, you should study history. The founding fathers were students of The Enlightenment. Their beliefs were more Deists than Judeo Christian. Jefferson wrote of Natures God. Franklin refered to the Father of Lights. Washington was a Deist, as too were Thomas Paine and James Madison.

Excellent observation / comment about “divine right” debates between patriots and loyalist. None the less, our founding fathers bore arms against the King, which enforced their right to liberity from their God.

Hate to say, but I am pretty certain that the founding fathers were indeed referring to the Judeo-Christian God, since that was the predominant diety of their culture.

Actually, in my continued learning of Jesus Christ, He stated the opposite, to beware of false prophets, who “mend” the truth to fit their needs.
We call them PseudoChristians

If God can forgive Christian soldiers for their actions during war, then He will forgive me.

You, on the other hand, are a useless tool.

If I understand you correctly, you’re saying you can ignore the teachings of Christ, say, the Sermon on the Mount, for example, and “adapt the faith” to meet…whatever challenge you feel you need to meet? That means, what? if you don’t agree with the teachings of Christ on a particular matter, you don’t have to apply His word…you can just make up your own faith and still call yourself a Christian?

In otherwords, all you have to do is give lip-service to being a Christian and God will forgive all else?

You’re telling me you can ignore Christ’s teachings and still claim to be a Christian. I would like to know just how you can do that? Where does Christ say that?

Your doctrine of Christianity sounds a lot more like the philosophy espoused by Anton LaVey.

You lying, distorting, miserable piece of crap!!! Never have I said stay at home moms (no apostrophe, bright boy) are anything but honorable. Both parents, mother and father, have incredible responsibilities. Quit projecting onto me and others what you WANT us to appear as so you can play Don Quixote and look like a knight in shining armor!

I am done with you on this topic – you have nothing sensible to offer.