ABC Refuses to Provide Copies of Path to 9/11 to Clinton, Albright, Berger
ABC Refuses to Provide Copies of Path to 9/11 to Clinton, Albright, Berger
ABC has been aggressively advancing its inaccurate and politically slanted miniseries, “The Path to 9/11,” to the right wing. Big players like Rush Limbaugh have been provided copies, as have obscure right-wing bloggers like Patterico.
But ABC has refused to provide a copy to President Clinton’s office. Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and former National Security Adviser Samuel Berger have also requested copies of the film from ABC, and both have been denied. Both Berger and Albright are harshly criticized in the film in scenes that, according to former counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, are “180 degrees from what happened.”
Here is an excerpt from Albright’s letter:
While I have requested a copy of the broadcast, I have yet to receive one. I have been informed by some who had been given the right to view the broadcast that the drama depicts scenes that never happened, events that never took place, decisions that were never made and conversations that never occurred; it asserts as fact things that are not fact.
For example, one scene apparently portrays me as refusing to support a missile strike against bin Laden without first alerting the Pakistanis; it further asserts that I notified the Pakistanis of the strike over the objections of our military. Neither of these assertions is true. In fact, the 9/11 commission reports states (page 117), “Since the missiles headed for Afghanistan had had to cross Pakistan, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs was sent to meet with Pakistan’s army chief of staff to assure him the missiles were not coming from India. Officials in Washington speculated that one or another Pakistani official might have sent a warning to the Taliban or Bin Ladin.”
You can read the full text of Berger’s letter here and Albright’s letter here.
Write ABC and tell them to tell the truth about 9/11.
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Everyone needs to call and write their local ABC affiliate and to let their sponsors know that we object to this crap.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:33 amWhy would ABC want to provide everybody copies of their BS movie? They are clearly trying to appease the right-wing attack machine and could care less about accuracy or accountability.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:34 amI am surprised ABC and Disney legal staffs vetted this thing for airing/distribution. There is a distinct possibility that Disney could be hit with some libel lawsuits.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:34 amABC is full of right wing facists! The only reason to not provide the tape to Clinton, Berger, and Albright is because IT IS A BOLD FACED LIE! A lie sponsored by Rove (aka Joseph Goebbles) and Bush (Adolph Hitler!)
Zieg hile, Bush!
September 6th, 2006 at 11:37 amWalt is turning in his grave.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:39 amThis is it!!!!!…..by refusing to provide copies to the people involved in the movie this movie will be finally exposed as what it is FRAUD!!!!!!
The rest of the media will pounce on this aspect of the story like white on rice….
Dumb move ABC…dumb move…
Good luck CONS with getting DEMS and Indep to buy this garbage….your Rethug supporters however will eat this trash up for sure……..
September 6th, 2006 at 11:40 amABC: “I find the defendant guilty! Based on these documented factual dramatisations”
September 6th, 2006 at 11:46 amNeojury: “That’s right we concur”
Defendant: “Hold on, can I see your documented factual dramatisations?”
ABC: “No you’re guilty until proven guilty. By this stuff which even a top security advisor to the white house calls garbage”
ABC & Neojury: “Burn the witch!”
Why didn’t Bush Sr. and Clinton go after Bin Laben? This man could have been dead years before 9/11 by either president. It is sad that neither man could grow a pair of nuts and kill that man.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:46 amRoger_Dodger why didn’t BushCo accept when the Taliban offered to hand over Bin Laden 1) after seeing proof and then 2) to an independant country for trial, even without any proof.
Why did BushCo then go on to dismantle the unit responsible for hunting down Bin Laden?
While you’re at it, perhaps you would like to answer why BushCo let a certain Learjet leave the USA, loaded with Bin Ladens just shortly after 9/11 when all other aircraft were grounded?
September 6th, 2006 at 11:50 amI forget all of the elements of the NYT standard, but I believe a public figure must prove that the publisher had actual knowledge that it was publishing a falsehood. This makes it very difficult for so-called public figures, such as Albright, to win libel cases. However, if what Albright says is really true, then the fact that she is a public figure might not be a real bar to a libel suit — she is putting ABC on notice, ahead of time, that it is about to publish a falsehood about a public figure that, incidentally, casts her in a very negative light. They will never be able to claim that they lacked actual knowledge. The fact that they won’t show her the tape is, perhaps, their idea of countering actual knowledge by sticking their head in the sand. Very interesting.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:51 amBoycott Lost, Desperate Housewifes and Monday Night Football.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:52 amlook at it this way, roger_roger… bush 41 and clinton were just as successful at hunting down OBL as dubya has been.
they just didn’t spend a gazillion dollars in the course of their failure.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:53 amRoger, nice try.
Bush I didn’t go after Osama because Osama was a CIA guy.
Clinton did try to go after Osama multiple times, despite being told this was treasonous or impeachable conduct by snakes like you.
Also, remember that flawlessly executed and planned ousting of the Taliban in 2001/2? That was the Clinton plan, which was drawn up after the bombing of the USS Cole in October 2000, because it appeared that Al Qaeda was behind the bombing, and which was given to Bush’s people upon the changing of administrations. Hard proof of Al Qaeda/Taliban involvement in the USS Cole bombing was attained sometime in early 2001. Despite this, Bush chose to do nothing. The blame for inaction on the USS Cole lies squarely with Bush, not Clinton.
Bush was preoccupied with missile defense, North Korea, Iraq, and pulling out of Kyoto, appearing to agree with the Republican critics of Clinton who called him obsessed with terrorism.
You people are wrong, you have short memories, and you are supporting great evil.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:55 amA.B.C. –
Another
Bush
Circlejerk.
How pathetic and sad. If it weren’t for all the dead people, the thrown-away trillions, and the destruction of the Constitution, of course.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:56 amMonday Night Football isn’t on ABC anymore, Chauncey… it’s on ESPN now.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:57 amSo back on topic now one of the trolls have had their daily dose of humiliation (what are they, sadistic, to keep coming back for more??)
It’s good to know in the land of the free and all that is just and democratic you can get slandered and made out as something you’re not, and then not be allowed to given a copy by the smearing person. Because that would just be totally the fair thing to do, which just won’t do!
September 6th, 2006 at 11:57 amWhy didn’t Bush Sr. and Clinton go after Bin Laben? This man could have been dead years before 9/11 by either president. It is sad that neither man could grow a pair of nuts and kill that man.
Comment by Roger_Roger
Good question, Roger Dodger, but why is bin Laden still alive? Why doesn’t your boy Dumbya grow a pair of nuts and kill him? Moron.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:57 am16. Really?
September 6th, 2006 at 11:57 am9/11/01 REPRESENTS DUBYA’S FAILURE!
Wednesday 6th of September 2006
by Jay Randal
The 5th anniversary of 9/11/01 terrorist attack is less than 5 days away, on next Monday, so Bush and GOP are trying to lay the blame on former Pres. Clinton?
100% fault and blame falls on the Bush Regime for complete negligence in not preventing terrorist attack from taking place and represents Pres. Bush’s failure!
The destruction of the WTC towers, and the attack on the Pentagon, was/is a chilling reminder of government ineptitude and gross malfeasance by the Bush Regime!
Karl Rove has tried to paint the ineptitude as victory, to portray George W. Bush as some kind of hero, but that baloney is just fantasy foisted as vile propaganda!
George cowered in a grammer school classroom as the attack took place, and was frozen in a comatose stupor of inaction, as the WTC/Pentagon buildings burned!
VP Cheney was rushed to a bunker to protect him, as Pres. Bush was whisked away to unknown location, so their personal safety was more important to them???
( Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Stone Mountain, Georgia.)
September 6th, 2006 at 11:58 am#8 Roger_Roger
Why didn’t Bush Sr. and Clinton go after Bin Laben? This man could have been dead years before 9/11 by either president. It is sad that neither man could grow a pair of nuts and kill that man.
You are so far off the mark with that comment, it’s not laughable, it’s not sickening, it’s somewhere below stupid. Far far below. Go get a clue before you post anything else like that.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:58 amI wasn’t aware that both clinton and Bush Sr. lacked testicles. That’s news to me. Roger, if you’ve got a pair, go take UBL out! Does Bush Jr. have testicles? Why haven’t we gotten UBL? Why has Pakistan just declared a truce with UBL stating that they will let him live peacefully in northern pakistan? Surely someone must have a pair over there. Will we now go to war with Pakistan becuase they harbor UBL? Or will this prove that Bush Jr. had his removed back before he took his oath of office. By the way testicles rule. I have a pair but for some reason haven’t been able to catch UBL. Damn my liberal cut and run tendencies. Damn testicles.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:58 amRe:8. Please give a specific time when Bush Sr. and when Clinton could have killed OBL. Also please cite legitimate references to support your claims (e.g., 9/11 report, CIA reports, etc.).
September 6th, 2006 at 11:59 am“Why didn’t Bush Sr. and Clinton go after Bin Laben? This man could have been dead years before 9/11 by either president. It is sad that neither man could grow a pair of nuts and kill that man.”
Gimme a break. Why don’t you worry about why Bush jr hasn’t gone full force after the guy now after he supposedly sponsored the worst terror attack ever?
September 6th, 2006 at 11:59 amGive up guys, Roger_Rogered will probably come back soon enough with a different ID for more punishment. Is there a doctor in the house? We’ve some sick people here who keep coming back for more punishment and embarrassment…
September 6th, 2006 at 11:59 amIt’s time for people like Clinton to start using their power to inflict retribution upon ABC-Capital Cities.
There are a lot of ways to pay back with hurt and embarrassment, or to freeze out, even a behemoth like ABC-Capital Cities-Disney.
In some things, those with political capital and media access need to step up a fight these battles, and not just rely on the grass/net roots.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:00 pmOf course they will not provide it, rove is out to confuse Americans and having intelligent, respected REAL people say negative things about his latest pack of lies would not be good.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:00 pmthat being said, 9/11 was an inside job, and OBL had little to do with it except for possibly supplying patsies.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:00 pmspooked – I AGREE!
September 6th, 2006 at 12:01 pmChauncey: Umm… I would have thought that, as much TV as you watch, that you would know that Monday Night Football is not on ABC any more.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:01 pmDisney is disgusting.
If they’re going to give out advance copies of a TV show, it should go to both likely critics and supporters, not to right-wingers only.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:02 pmWhy did Bush Jr let OBL go free?
September 6th, 2006 at 12:02 pmI will make every effort to boycott every ABC and Disney.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:02 pmMay be little difficult since I have 7 month old son and me being lifelong fan of Disney.
Why didn’t Bush Sr. and Clinton go after Bin Laben? This man could have been dead years before 9/11 by either president. It is sad that neither man could grow a pair of nuts and kill that man.
Comment by Roger_Roger
Why did Reagan train al queda and the mujadeens to fight the russians? He trained and provided weapons to the same people we are fighting now.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:03 pm33. I think it would still be okay to watch vintage Disney movies and Mickey Mouse….
September 6th, 2006 at 12:04 pm#17 “So back on topic now one of the trolls have had their daily dose of humiliation (what are they, sadistic, to keep coming back for more??)”
That would be “masochistic” (no offense, just correcting). Their masters are sadistic, which explains the relationship between the neocon overlords (sadists) and the 33% of bootlickers that follow them (the 33%). Now it is perfectly clear: the adamant neocon supporters suffer from the “battered patriot syndrome”, where the country and constitution they love so dearly is repeatedly trampled and spit on by the overlords, and the masochistic supporters with BPS just keep coming back for more. It is a mental illness and needs to be treated.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:09 pmHere’s an interesting proposition.
Let’s just say for debates sake the next President is a Democrat. What happens if there is an equivalent major attack on the USA during his time in charge?
Presumably, it would be A OK for him to just put his hands up and say “Well it was Bush’s fault, because he let Bin Laden go and he helped destabilise Iraq”. Which would actually have more basis but nevermind that. After all, it’s true isn’t it. Or is it only neocrooks who can blame someone else (usually a democrat) all the time?
September 6th, 2006 at 12:10 pmBoycotting means that you don’t buy new product. You can still enjoy the videos or toys or what have you that you already have without affecting your intent to boycott — just don’t give them any MORE of your money, since they see fit to use it to support partisan propoganda filled with lies.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:12 pmPost 36 > There is no treatment for Bush lover illness, except a full frontal lobotomy > lol.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:12 pmBarbara, #10 – very good! I might add, the fact that the film has already been pre-released to select inviduals means it has been published. ABC/Disney’s exposure to libel lawsuits on this is…well, let’s just say it could get real ugly for the Mouse, who, by the way, already speaks in a falsetto.
If I had Disney stock, I would sell. Now.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:13 pm#39 Agreed. However, I find the battered wife syndrome parrallel to seem eerily accurate.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:14 pmhttp://www.workingforchange.com/activism/action.cfm?itemid=21317&afccode=n69lk2
Let them know what you think. I have no problem boycotting ABC TV. I’m going to miss those trips to Walt Disney World so much.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:16 pmClarification…
Further Clarification…
Even Further Clarification….
Why’s that necessary? Because it’s fiction.
“The Path To 911 – According to Jim”.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:16 pmnapu, you can always buy them on the black market, or used at a yard sale, not to mention getting them from the library (very handy, yard sales, when you have young children). I think they consider piracy and resales to be worse than a boycott. (Just kidding, and very grateful that I already own “Beauty and the Beast”)
September 6th, 2006 at 12:16 pmAnd to actually post on topic, I think that the predistribution clearly states a specific agenda: in fact, it seems that they distributed the early releases to those who would tout the film: that aspect they can probably argue as a marketing strategy, and thus NOT giving pre-show copies to Clinton (et. al.) they can argue as not being in their marketing interests. I am pretty sure that that will be their defence on that one. They are not interested in facts, because their overlords are telling them to run it: accuracy of the content is not of any import or interest to them.
Back in a while (fair warning :) ).
September 6th, 2006 at 12:18 pm#8 Roger_Roger
Why didn’t Bush Sr. and Clinton go after Bin Laben? This man could have been dead years before 9/11 by either president. It is sad that neither man could grow a pair of nuts and kill that man.
I shouldn’t have to do this, but here goes. Look at the quote from Albright. She quotes the 9/11 Commission report: “Since the missiles headed for Afghanistan had had to cross Pakistan, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs was sent to meet with Pakistan’s army chief of staff to assure him the missiles were not coming from India. Officials in Washington speculated that one or another Pakistani official might have sent a warning to the Taliban or Bin Ladin.â€
She’s talking about 40+ Tomahawk cruise missiles fired at a camp inside Afghanistan where bin Laden was known to be staying. The one problem with that, as Albright points out, is that they needed to let our ‘allies’ the Pakistanis know what was flying over their country on the way to take out bin Laden and where it was coming from. A Pakistani general later bragged about tipping off bin Laden. It seems the Pakistani military was not exactly on the same page as us in this whole anti-terrorism thing. Clinton tried to get cooperation from Pakistani intelligence to go in and catch bin Laden. From the WaPo:
” In 1999, the CIA secretly trained and equipped approximately 60 commandos from the Pakistani intelligence agency to enter Afghanistan for the purpose of capturing or killing Osama bin Laden, according to people familiar with the operation.
“The operation was arranged by then-Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his chief of intelligence with the Clinton administration, which in turn promised to lift sanctions on Pakistan and provide an economic aid package. The plan was aborted later that year when Sharif was ousted in a military coup.
…
“The operation was aborted on Oct. 12, 1999, however, when Sharif was overthrown in a military coup led by Gen. Pervez Musharraf, who refused to continue the operation despite substantial efforts by the Clinton administration to revive it.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A61219-2001Oct2
Our pal, Musharraf. Facts are a bitch, eh?
September 6th, 2006 at 12:18 pmPost 40 Faire > Bush and GOP must have assured ABC that any libel suits against them would be handled by their sleazy lawyers, GOP affiliated judges, and by the GOP controlled Congress! They believe they have all the legal bases covered to throw out any law suits or to crush them?!
September 6th, 2006 at 12:19 pmWell everyone was wondering what common scheme the sewer brain rove would cook up for the elections and now we know.
But like the president telling lies to get approval to invade Iraq, who, just tell me who would have thought a family oriented organization like Disney would be involved in a scheme like this.
It is up to the democrats to show their might. They should boycott any ABC show, Disney and the sponsors. And if I were one of the principals protrayed in the film and they showed absolute inaccuracies, I would sue their ass off. If enough did maybe the republican owned ABC/Disney wouldn’t be the republican owners anymore.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:19 pmlocal Dallas affiiliate:
http://www.wfaa.com/customerservice/helpcenter.jsp?id=1083854504000
September 6th, 2006 at 12:21 pmHow about Clinton and Albright ask for some airtime in the form of an interview to make this known?
September 6th, 2006 at 12:23 pmLooks like its time to boycott ABC and Disney.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:24 pmWell, you know what this means. Mr. Iger will NOT be reading my itty bitty email, even though I did call him a propagator of propaganda as well as a shill.
bummer…….
September 6th, 2006 at 12:25 pmdammit chimpeach,
September 6th, 2006 at 12:27 pmwhy….I ask you WHY do you bring facts to this post? Now what are all those Clinton haters gonna do, hmmmmm?
ABC and the producers of the docudrama are taking a cue from Mel Gibson and the launch of Passion of the Christ. Just as with the Passion, the true-believer market is being seeded, while skeptics are being kept at bay.
For more on the hypocrisy at ABC, see:
September 6th, 2006 at 12:31 pm“ABC News Slams New Iraq Documentary, Ignores Own 9/11 Right-Wing Fantasy
.”
How nonpartisan of ABC
September 6th, 2006 at 12:31 pmThank you for organizing a letter to ABC. What about the advertisers of this movie? Who are they and what are their email addresses?
September 6th, 2006 at 12:33 pmSurely Clinton would have the clout to pull this thing before it is aired. Why don’t he, Berger, Ben-Veniste and Albright get their lawyers together and DO IT!
September 6th, 2006 at 12:35 pm#47
Bush and GOP must have assured ABC that any libel suits against them would be handled by their sleazy lawyers, GOP affiliated judges, and by the GOP controlled Congress!
I think you’re right. It’s interesting how this works. MoveOn had bought commercial time in several TV markets for their “Red-Handed” political ads about GOP candidates and corruption. All of the ads were legal, none of them libelous. But, some of the Republican-supporting TV affiliates refused to air them, because they claimed to have been threatened with lawsuits by the RNC.
So, the RNC can scare off TV stations from airing ads that are factual, but ABC is boldly putting up $30 million dollars of its own money to air a bunch of lying crap commercial-free. That’s a campaign contribution and someone should file suit to get an injunction against ABC airing that show at least until it gets a hearing.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:35 pmWhy doesn’t someone point out the fact the Thomas Kean Senior’s son is running for the US Senate in NJ and is not doing well against his Democratic opponent, Robert Menedez. Kean Sr. has every reason to support the Republican talking point fictions in order to help his son.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:36 pmI intend on contacting my local ABC affiliate about this program. I also intend never to watch anything on ABC again.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:36 pmThis is filthy Bush Propaganda.
TAKE DOWN MADELEINE ALLBRIGHT’S WORD DOCUMENT!!!! Yuck!
Replace it with her document converted to virus free PDF.
I am not saying there is a virus in her document, I don’t know and I don’t care. I will not knowingly download a word document.
SHAME ON THINKPROGRESS!
Yuck Yuck Yuck Yuck Yuck. I feel all dirty now.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:36 pmBill Clinton, for all his mis-givings, is still respected the world over. At the height of his impeachment hearings, his approval ratings hovered at over 60%. When he travelled the world, he was greeted with respect, joy, and enthusiasm… whereas Bu$h is met with violent protest. Given Bill’s unique position as a former president, he should use his de-facto bully pulpit to assault the airwaves before this fraudulent movie is broadcast. It is up to people like him, with a very loud voice, to shout LOUDER than the right wing corporations that enable republican control of government by collusion, to the point of fascism.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:39 pm9/11 Conspiracy
Here are some 9/11 conspiracy videos. The first is a link to a full-length documentary called “Loose Change” (click on the link and follow the link to the video):
http://www.loosechange911.com/
Other shorter 9/11 conspiracy stuff I also found interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc2lih2qjEg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXpcnhwFlIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF8-8Kaa8jo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBVVs9hcmRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmvGFVr6KNk
September 6th, 2006 at 12:40 pmWake the HELL up sheep and NOW! 9-11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! And ALL these people belong to pure evil New World Order,including Clinton’s and DEMAND ALL MAIN STREAM MEDIA REPORT ON TRUTH ABOUT 9-11 AND NOW OR ALL FACE BOYCOTT’S! Plus, demand they report on REAL news, NOT “fluff” and demand they also tell truth about 800 FEMA “civilian detention camps” TOO! And NOW! YES, there is 800 FEMA “civilain detention camps” all ready for you sheep! http://supressednews.blogspot.com/2006/08/letter-from-us-congress-concerning.html
“We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
-David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991
“The New World Order cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change it’s perceptions.”
- Henry Kissenger, World Affairs Council Press Conference, Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel , April 19th 1994
“No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation.”
September 6th, 2006 at 12:42 pm-David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations
#53DRxJ
dammit chimpeach,
why….I ask you WHY do you bring facts to this post? Now what are all those Clinton haters gonna do, hmmmmm?
I’m sorry. It’s an obsession with me. I was kind of hoping it would make their heads explode.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:43 pmPost 36 > There is no treatment for Bush lover illness, except a full frontal lobotomy > lol.
Comment by Jay Randal — September 6, 2006 @ 12:12 pm
I thought that was the cause?
September 6th, 2006 at 12:43 pmhttp://supressednews.blogspot.com/2006/08/letter-from-us-congress-concerning.html
September 6th, 2006 at 12:43 pmHey everyone, I just read all the ABC/Scholastic “study materials”, they are also severely flawed and slanted. THIS IS A PROPAGANDA EMERGENCY! If you have a high school kid, find out if his/her teacher intends to use this garbage. If so, call the school and SHUT IT DOWN! No history class should be discussing history based on a “docudrama”.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:44 pmHas anyone organized a campaign to contact ABC advertisers?
September 6th, 2006 at 12:44 pmAravir: ESPN is another Disney property, just like ABC, and should be included in any boycott.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:45 pmwhy was the CIA in afghanistan BEFORE the russians invaded? Why did CIA produce text books for the Madras schools/baby taliban’s extolling violence/jihadism? This childish bickering about clinton etc. is missing the point. He is just as much as a cheap whore for his Big Pimp Daddy Mil/Indst/Complex as shrimp or all empty suits in oval have been since Ike warned us about this growing evil. A 4 star general, war hero’s war hero repub prez warns us about this monster in our midst and we …………….do nothing. They created terrorism. They created 9-11. Democrats and republicans bear equal responsibility and should both be outlawed. Our planet is depending on a few brave americans to wake up SOON, or it will be all over
September 6th, 2006 at 12:46 pmThank God for small favors, Monday Night Football is now on ESPN.
‘Monday Night Football’ Changes the Channel
September 6th, 2006 at 12:46 pmTuesday, April 19, 2005
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63538-2005Apr18.html
You people are wrong, you have short memories, and you are supporting great evil.
Comment by Minja — September 6, 2006 @ 11:55 am
That’s absolutely right. Trolls, Minja has your number. You are enabling scum. You think it’s all a ‘football game’ in which ‘your team,’ the GOP is dominant. Well, that’s nice, but it’s destroying the world.
Now piss off.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:46 pmPost 68 G.W. > Bush lovers act like comatose zombies, but to cure their affliction they need to be lobotimized for our protection > after the procedure they will be docile and no longer love George W. Bush!
September 6th, 2006 at 12:48 pmmaybe time to tell ABC to get it right or stop watching ABC
September 6th, 2006 at 12:49 pmJay – Ahhhhhhh docile dummies… good idea… much cheaper than trying to educate them.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:50 pmWhile we will all complain about it. At the end of the day ABC will air this garbage, and the american people will believe it. I for one do not know how to get ahold of abc to complain, or their sponsors.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:51 pmIsn’t it just amazing. The truth hurts, doesn’t it!!!
If it is against the Republicans, everything should be played, talked about, etc.
If it is against the democrats, forget it…..it is a lie….keep it hidden.
The democratic party and liberals are a bunch of hypocrits!!!
It was clinton who screwed up and fat Madelaine Albright spends her time trying to drum up business for her company and going on TV telling falsehoods.
Clinton was to blame for 911 and no one else!
You go get em ABC!!!!!!!!
September 6th, 2006 at 12:51 pmTexas Star is a clinton conspiracy theorist.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:54 pm#82 Texas I think you just need to swap the words Republican and Democrat and your statement accurately reflects current reality.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:56 pm#70
Hey everyone, I just read all the ABC/Scholastic “study materialsâ€, they are also severely flawed and slanted.
I think it warrants a massive LTE campaign. When editors get pounded with thousands of letters about something like this, they have a tendency to sit up and take notice. And, sometimes, if the wire services aren’t saying much about it, they’ll assign someone to look into it.
This is the 2006 equivalent of the Swift Boat Liars.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:56 pmPost 79 G.W. > After the Bush lover zombies are lobotimized, they will drool a lot and mumble silly things, but they will be harmless morons > lol.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:56 pmI sent a long tirade including this –
I am only one person, but I pledge to you that I will never again turn on ABC if you continue on this course– It is my own boycott. My own way of saying I am doing something to try to save democracy in the United States.
It’s not much. But it’s all that I’ve got. I won’t contribute to the destruction of truth and I will not support of the anti-democratic corruption in the United States in which your corporation is engaged.
September 6th, 2006 at 12:56 pmInteresting the cheerleaders-who-blame-everyone-else have as usual avoided observations such as my one at #37. So according to their logic, if the next president is a Democrat and America gets attacked during his time (oh I don’t know, let’s say by Al Qaeda) He would be perfectly right and justified to not take any responsibility for it, because George Bush let Bin Laden go at least twice and disbanded the people who should have found him. It would all be Bush’s fault.
Unless of course it’s one rule for neocons and another for everyone else, is what they’re trying to hide behind.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:00 pmA nice slander lawsuit might be just what ABC needs to bring back to it’s stockholders as a reward for this endeavor.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:02 pmESPN is part of ABC/Disney…remember it is a huge conglomerate. That said, while I can handle boycotting ABC, I will probably watch MNF. Unless I have a ratings box in my house anyway. I also cannot deprive my kids of the joys of classic Disney because of the actions of a few who are currently in control of this great piece of Americana. I just have to hope that the stock holders come to their sences.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:03 pmBill Clinton never blamed Bush Sr or Ronald Raygun for the mess that those two clowns created. Clinton cleaned up their mess in two years without complaining.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:04 pmMaybe ABC should air somehting really based on an actual timeline and 9/11 commission report, something say like, “9/11: Press for Truth” 911pressfortruth.com/. Shame on ABC, shame on the Bush White House and Shame on the Americans who support these criminals.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:05 pmThank God for small favors, Monday Night Football is now on ESPN.
Let’s get this straight.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:05 pmMONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL IS ON ESPN
ESPN IS OWNED BY ABC/DISNEY
GOT IT?
plunger, #83, could you post the links? Now that I’m done studying for the bar, I’d like to research those claims.
Thanks, friend.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:07 pm[...] Oh, and they’ve flooded the right wing echo chamber (including blogs) with preview DVDs, but refuse to give any to real media critics, progressives, or Clinton, Albright, or Berger (all of whom are portrayed in a negative light in the movie). Meanwhile, chumps like Hugh Hewitt and the mouthbreathers at Patterico and bloated drug whore con Limbaugh are treated to prostate massages and free tickets to the Star Trek porn convention. [...]
September 6th, 2006 at 1:10 pmComment by Chris H.
Disney stock closed at $29.85 yesterday, opened at $29.72, and is currently at $29.61.
Apparently the market is not too pleased with Disney today.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:11 pm#82 Texas Star
Isn’t it just amazing. The truth hurts, doesn’t it!!!
You wouldn’t know the truth if it jumped up and bit you on the ass. There’s a world of difference between the truth and your flapping lips. Back up your crap with some sources for a change.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:12 pmClinton was to blame for 911 and no one else!
Well, sane people would probably blame Al Qaeda most of all.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:12 pmBriseadh na Faire
Hope the bar exam goes well for you. My wife is an attorney and I remember well when she went through that – quite an ordeal. I suspect that you will be excellent as an attorney. Any idea what area you are interested in?
September 6th, 2006 at 1:14 pm“Why didn’t Bush Sr. and Clinton go after Bin Laben? This man could have been dead years before 9/11 by either president. It is sad that neither man could grow a pair of nuts and kill that man. ”
As previous posts have pointed out, Clinton was very focussed on getting Bin Laden. When he asked for new legislaton to help his fight against Al Qaida, the Republicans refused to give him the tools he asked for. When he bombed Bin Laden’s camp, the repubs yelled “Wag the Dog!”
But he was successful in closing down something like 20 Al Qaeda cells. His administration did thwart the Millennium Plot (simultaneously to bomb LAX, Washington D.C. airport, and two middle east targets). Any honest “docudrama” would include all of these facts.
Last year I had the opportunity of asking a security advisor to the Clinton White House whether he thought we would have prevented 9/11 if Al Gore had been president. He thought there would have been a good possibility: that when Gore got any of the warnings ignored by GW, he would have set up a White House situation room to push for daily reports from all agencies tasked with dealing with the threat. We now know there was enough information out there to deal with the 9/11 plot: there was no direction from the top to bring it all together and act on it.
I’m pretty sure Clinton and Gore believe they could have saved us from the 9/11 attack. Politically, of course, they can’t tell us that.
I do hope that Clinton and Berger sue for libel. In the meantime, the reported falsehoods in this upcoming program should be newspaper headlines.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:14 pmExcept the FBI, who do NOT blame UBL for 9/11. He’s on the wanted list, but not for that.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:14 pmFor those who want to take more action, I’ve put up a list of ABC advertisers with their contact info on my blog.
Cheers
September 6th, 2006 at 1:15 pm#103 in response to #100.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:16 pmIf they have nothing to hide, then why not provide them to the individual they intend to smear? After all, that would be the fair thing to do.
The fact is that if they did, they (the writer,producer,Disney, & ABC) would be sued before the fact rather than after the fact and it would never be aired.
I believe this film will totally backfire on the GOP – and will, contrarily, focus the microscope even stronger on 9/11 – and the actual truth of 9/11 in all of it splendor. I don’t really think the GOP wants this at all. Americans are so angry about the Iraq War and this administration already that all they need is more evidence of this administration’s fingerprints on a fake documentary aimed at twisting the real truth and people will be outraged.
Let’s face it….76% americans are fed up with the status quo and want change in November. If ABC airs this bunch of lies and finger pointing (since when do we blame a predecessor for our own woes???) the GOP will definitely implode and the people will take back control of the House and Senate this November…….I can’t wait!
September 6th, 2006 at 1:18 pmABC needs to get the transcript from Richard Cressey’s MSNBC interview on Scarborough Country and get it “straight from the horses’s mouth” (Cressey worked with Bush & Clinton)……..so there you have it……THIS DOCUMENTARY NOT ONLY “GOT THE SMALL STUFF WRONG’ – IT ALSO GOT THE “BIG STUFF WRONG” AS WELL…..what’s left?? Certainly not Truth!
September 6th, 2006 at 1:22 pmPlunger: Thanks for the list of goof-offs who put this fake documentary together. They all need to be fired for ineptitude.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:23 pmUmmm, isn’t it time to call for a boycot of Disney Land?
September 6th, 2006 at 1:24 pmAn alternative way to remember and mourn the loss of life on 9/11 is offered by “Women In Black, Baltimore”:
a “Peace Path” has been organized for Baltimore, Maryland from 4 to 6 PM that evening.
Women In Black, Baltimore is part of the international organization ” …to advocate for peace, justice, and an end to violence worldwide.”
http://www.peacepath911.com
It’s not a march, but a gathering to line Charles St. (the main north-south road in Baltimore) from the Harbor to the city’s beltway.
I hope many Philadelphia and DC readers will find the time to attend.
See Ya,
September 6th, 2006 at 1:26 pmTed Koppel is glad he left ABC, now that the network has become a GOP affiliated piece of steaming crap!
September 6th, 2006 at 1:27 pmThis is just another salvo fired at us in what will quite
possibly be the ugliest, most brutal midterm elections
in our history.
It’s going to get much worse and we need to push
September 6th, 2006 at 1:28 pmback early, often, and as hard as possible.
My local ABC affiliate is owned by Sinclair… so much for the “liberal Media Bias” …what a straw boogeyman. The next time my former friends on the right start spewing “the liberal Main Stream Media bias ” shit, i’m going to punch them sguare in the teeth.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:29 pm#110 Plunger. yep. “Operation Northwoods”. PNAC. NWO (no, not the wrestlers).I know this list is MUCH longer…
September 6th, 2006 at 1:37 pmSeriously, is this even legal? Could Clinton and Albright and Co. sue ABC for allowing these lies to be aired AND for essentially slandering them on TV like this? I highly doubt I could just make a movie protraying ANY politicians of being mentally retarded and implying that they furiously masterbate to Nazi propaganda…because it’s a lie and totally inappropriate to do so. Isn’t there laws protecting the unauthorized use of Clinton or other public officials without their consent? Clinton may be a different issue as he is supposedly shown through news footage and what not, but the others?
BUt for ABC to fund this movie, allow it to air without commericals or proper disclaimers, to sell it as fact and based on the 9/11 commission report, and then to block any left-winger from seeing it EVEN those it SMEARS through inaccurate representations. Clearly ABC is running strict and strong damage control. Their actions are those of a company who wants this to air first and have people question it later, if they ever do.
ABC is going to do everything they can to strong-arm this into people’s homes as FACT. They will do everything they can to block criticism from reaching the general public and that includes shutting out the very people who are mentioned in the movie. ABC wouldn’t want Clinton to denounce the movie or any one else and as long as they don’t get to see it, ABC can cast their complaints as being biased and partisan and without proper evidence.
Who knew ABC could be so unethical and corrupt? Between this and pushing this smear-campaing of a movie into high school to encourage future voters to be Republican…this is seriously disgusting and there should be investigations and lawsuits.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:40 pma partial list of who can credit for this abomination:
Directed by
David L. Cunningham
Writing credits
Cyrus Nowrasteh
Produced by
September 6th, 2006 at 1:41 pmZakaria Alaoui …. line producer
Bruce Dunn …. associate producer
Marc E. Platt …. executive producer
Marc E. Platt …. producer
Hans Proppe …. producer
Richard Luke Rothschild …. co-producer
Mark Winemaker …. producer
[...] Madeleine Albright, Sandy Berger, and the Big Dog all denied DVDs. Also, my copy seems to have been lost in the mail. [...]
September 6th, 2006 at 1:44 pmObviously they want it to air first. They are not stupid people, and know that any lies will be refuted and battled — but once it airs, it will have done a measure of propoganda damage. Many who see it — particularly children, who are not inclined to question the truth value of such things — will accept all or most of it as being factual. Once the propoganda is disseminated to the audience it has done its work. Trying to do damahge control on propoganda is very difficult, as it places ideas in the mindset, and seeds subtle connections. The problem with deprogramming those affected by propoganda is similar to the problem of battling ‘terrorism’: the ideas have been placed, and if they are set in the mind, if the mind accepts the idea as truth, then it is difficult to alter that perception… even traumatic.
Therefore, they understand the issues they will face after it airs, and are ready and willing to face the consequences that they anticipate, but for their plan to work with this IT MUST AIR, and it must reach as many as possible. Seeding the children with the school program is the lowest form of propoganda, and it should be stopped at all costs.
September 6th, 2006 at 1:51 pmI will not watch ABC again!
September 6th, 2006 at 2:07 pmI submitted this on the ABC ‘Path to 9/11‘ blog :
It is my understanding that the film will run short due to the Ad-Free format.
“Originally slated for two three-hour time slots, the missing commercial time will now require short-news programs to fill the gapâ€. – Media Daily News
A possible solution to fill the missing time would be to obtain comments on the piece from those directly involved.
Richard Clarke
Madeleine Albright
Samuel Berger
Roger Cressey
Bill Clinton
There is plenty of time to obtain some 1 minute on camera comments by these notables and many have already shown a willingness to comment.
This would demonstrably show that neither the Producers or ABC Network were were trying to present a skewed viewpoint and indeed held the Facts of 9/11 in the high regard they deserve fitting of this historically solemn event
September 6th, 2006 at 2:08 pmOh Right, I’ll believe it when I see it.
September 6th, 2006 at 2:11 pmI know people who don’t have a tv. They won’t be watching it.
September 6th, 2006 at 2:34 pm[...] When ABC refused to provide liberal and centrist organizations and bloggers advanced copies of the “fallacydrama”, meanwhile already providing pre-release copies to right-wing organizations and bloggers, I shrugged and basically thought, “Eh, it just underscored the lack of credibility the film has.” But when ABC refuses to give pre-releases to the offices of former Secretary of State Madeline Albright, former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger and the former President of the United States William Jefferson Clinton, this has gone from bad press to embarrassingly irrevocably damaging press. But ABC has refused to provide a copy to President Clinton’s office. Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and former National Security Adviser Samuel Berger have also requested copies of the film from ABC, and both have been denied. Both Berger and Albright are harshly criticized in the film in scenes that, according to former counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, are “180 degrees from what happened.†[...]
September 6th, 2006 at 2:38 pmABC and its affiliates are hereby blocked until further notice.
September 6th, 2006 at 2:42 pm[...] And interestingly enough, while ABC has provided copies of the movie to Rush Limbaugh and right-wing bloggers, it refuses to give it out to Bill Clinton, Sandy Berger or Madeleine Albright. [...]
September 6th, 2006 at 2:44 pmABC Refuses to Provide Copies of Path to 9/11 to Clinton, Albright, Berger…
Partisan loyalty trumps historical accuracy at ABC….
September 6th, 2006 at 2:59 pmWelcome to Disneyland: Who needs reality, when we got some fresh baked bullcakes we just pulled out of the grease my palm oven. Best administration money can buy. Don’t ya just love a spineless government that spits in your face and says “I don’t have to do a damn thing for you, we make the reality this term and we’ve been setting up for additional terms for nearly 7 years”. No work, all campaign. Bush didnt have to worry over whether to run away to Canada and freeze while hiding out and pulling deer ticks out of his ankles. He got to pretend he was in Alabama doing Texas Air National Guard duty while him and his buddy Bath avoided drug tests and spent alot of time just over the border supporting the human bondage which is prostitution, giving mexican canteena patrons funny nicknames, staying brain damagingly drunk and abusing narcotics. It’s known as Draft Dodging Deluxe. But he and alot of deluded neo-criminals got this idea that they can speak to the rest of us about a noble cause and with the authority we’ve invested in them there should be no questioning their “resolve”. Like I said Welcome to Disneyland. oh and screw ABC. They are truly the Benedict Arnolds of the broadcast industry.
September 6th, 2006 at 3:06 pmSo they wouldn’t give Sandy the burglar any info huh…tsktsktsk.
September 6th, 2006 at 3:16 pmSandy can probably find a copy at the National Archives to stuff down his pants “accidently”
September 6th, 2006 at 3:47 pmDear Iben (Hakenaluggi)
you should be proud anyone in government would be as brave as to smuggle “copies” of documents they created in the first place out of the library of congress for the sole purpose of remembering accurately statements for a report that was to be submitted voluntarily. Considering the inconsistencies and the phenomenal national shame associated with Bush being unwilling to testify to the 911 commission (whom they fought tooth and nail to legally prohibit, and then prevent from establishing any meaningful dertermination by refusing to provide documents for) without his shotgun wielding surrogate “daddy”, and only under the conditions that they “NOT BE SWORN IN TO TELL THE TRUTH” (so much for being born again into the faith, production line christianity offers). Sandy Berger is a public servant and an admirable human being and united states citizen. The current administration and it’s supporters are racketeers and criminals. No matter how you try to reverse that and say that up is down the fact remains. My advise, … run the concept past Disney, … they seem aptly equipped to entertain that line of thinking and could offer truthiness scenarios to establish what you feel you need to say.
September 6th, 2006 at 3:51 pm[...] – Only the kool-aid drinkers can plug into it. [...]
September 6th, 2006 at 3:55 pmDaily Kos has an excellent one-stop resource for contacting people on the 9/11 mockumentary, in a diary called Path to 9/11 – Big List of Action Contacts, by blogger highacidity. The diary lists contacts to ABC, the Disney Co., Scholastic (which is providing 100,000 teaching aids on the movie that contain many distortions), BBC 2 (which is planning to air the mockudrama as well), and many other pertinent contacts.
Please visit DKos, grab the contact list, and start dialing and emailing…it’s not too late to stop this travesty!
September 6th, 2006 at 4:03 pmI wonder if the laws forbidding airing political ads or biased content less than 90 days prior to an election could be used to stop this, or at least delay it? It’s already been established in court that things can be blocked that are not political ads put out by the candidate him or herself. That law has also been used to block propaganda from being aired that came from sources unconnected to the campaigns. Judges have ruled that even if it comes from an third party as some sort of “public service”, it can be blocked if the timing is obviously to sway elections. Just a thought.
September 6th, 2006 at 4:04 pmBin Laden’s weapon of choice is BANKRUPTCY! And thanks to Bush, it seems to be working.
September 6th, 2006 at 4:09 pmPartisanship, desperation attempts to revise history in favor of Bush&Co. with a phony documentary is stooping to a new low.
September 6th, 2006 at 4:11 pmNot providing those whom they incriminate with an advance copy is grossly undemocratic and unfair. But who ever said Republiscum were fair and balanced.
Even the courts allow the the accused to face the accuser, learn of what evidence there is, and offer their defense.
This is an unconscionable travesty by ABC.
Good point in post #140.
September 6th, 2006 at 4:14 pmWasn’t there a certain Ronald Reagan movie that was moved to cable after a right-wing uproar over its “accuracy” etc.? What a double standard! There should be a great uproar from the sane people in this world. I’ve had ENOUGH of corporate media!
September 6th, 2006 at 4:18 pmIt is times like there when I really like the fact I have no tv and no access to one. I believe the hype and counter-hype only serve to magnify the undeserved attention this drama is receiving. It is a kind of Revenge on Michael Moore strategy cooked up by Bush supporters including the media moguls at Disney. I quit supporting Disney in every conscious way I could some years ago–right after the birth of my son.
Letterman has it right. “it’s only television”. The converted are already converted and the skeptical are already skeptical in this polarized environment. If you oppose this broadcast, by all means write the broadcasters—but also withdraw your support in the marketplace for its sponsors. Every last one of them. It will speak louder than the voice of righteous indignation.
September 6th, 2006 at 4:33 pmthis is quite an interesting fantasy world you guys live in
September 6th, 2006 at 4:56 pmRogerRoger: “Why didn’t Bush Sr. and Clinton go after Bin Laben?”
Roger, there seems to be a lot of unused space there between your ears. I suggest you fill some of it up with facts. Clinton was 45 minutes late in an attempt to kill bin Laden by hitting a terrorist training camp with cruise missles. Would Clinton have been successful or 45 minutes sooner with the missle if he hadn’t been forced by Republicans to spend the entire morning in deposition answering questions about oral sex? We’ll never know. But, Clinton did try to kill bin Laden.
September 6th, 2006 at 5:00 pm[...] ABC won’t give President Clinton, Madeleine Albright or Sandy Berger a copy of their 9/11 docudrama, “The Path to 9/11.” But there is virtually nothing about the film ABC won’t share with the right-wing blogosphere. [...]
September 6th, 2006 at 5:12 pm#147 I’m sorry if you think that’s true. I heard Bill Clinton on the Al Franken show shortly before the 2004 election and he said that one of his biggest disappointments was not going after Osama when he had the chance. I’m sorry I have to paraphrase there, it’s been a long time since the interview. But the basics of his comments I still remember. I’m sure he would have said that he tried and just missed if that were true.
September 6th, 2006 at 5:13 pmI received this from our ABC station:
Michael: Thanks for your e-mail and follow up on the ABC Television Network broadcast of “The Path to 9/11.†this Sunday and Monday. We inquired as to the sourcing of the materials and the claims we are receiving that there is a political agenda. Here is ABC’s reply:
“The Path to 9/11 is a dramatization, not a documentary, drawn from a variety of sources, including the 9/11 Commission Report, other published materials and from personal interviews. The events that lead to 9/11 originally sparked great debate, so it’s not surprising that a movie surrounding those events has revived the debate. The attacks were a pivotal moment in our history that should never be forgotten and it’s fitting that the discussion continues.â€
I have been told by ABC that the following disclaimer will air throughout the movie:
“The following movie is a dramatization that is drawn from a variety of sources including the 9/11 Commission Report and other published materials, and from personal interviews. The movie is not a documentary. For dramatic and narrative purposes, the movie contains fictionalized scenes, composite and representative characters and dialogue, as well as time compression.”
I do understand your concern and do not believe there is any political agenda from the ABC Television Network. And I believe this is a good opportunity to discuss the controversy.
We are putting together a panel to view the docudrama and then be part of a group to discuss and comments on their opinions as part of a news story to be broadcast in our late news on Monday evening.
To that end, we are asking participants to watch the docudrama at home on Sunday evening, then join us at RTV6 to watch the final evening then participate in the discussion.
If you are interested in being part of this, please let me know by Friday noon.
Don Lundy
Vice President & General Manager
RTV 6 Indianapolis
Not sure I’m armed with the ability to notice what is fact/fiction in the movie. Should I do this?
September 6th, 2006 at 5:13 pm[...] Though the piece criticizes President Clinton, former counter-terrorism czar Richard Clarke, and Clinton National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, ABC has refused to provide any of their offices with copies and has apparently distributed over 900 copies to right-wing bloggers. Even Bush counterterrorism official Roger Cressey has decried the film as “shameful” and inaccurate. [...]
September 6th, 2006 at 5:16 pmThis may be the result of one of the lesser known scandals of the Clinton adminstration: the cronic late video returns.
September 6th, 2006 at 6:04 pmhey texas star-
what the hell happened to texas, man? there was once a time that no self-respecting texan would trust an ivy league cheerleader from connecticut.
ever heard the phrase, “all hat and no cattle”?
here, i’ll make up a new one for you: his father was a wimp, and so is he. (seriously, folks, the entire reason for this cowboy – tough guy image that failure boy puts on goes back to his father being called a wimp).
i, personally, would love the opportunity to call bush a wimp to his face.
September 6th, 2006 at 6:30 pmNot surprisingly, even though the blog is up again… my old comments were never “approved”.. and I doubt the one that I posted will be approved either.
I have made calls to many of the advertisers as well as Scholastic.
The companies with banners or pop-up ads that I have seen are:
Advanced Medical Optics (although haven’t seen it today maybe they dropped it?)
Media contact:
Steve Chesterman
Manager, Corporate Communications
714-247-8711
steve.chesterman@amo-inc.com
Netflix:
408-540-3700
Leslie Kilgore (Chief Marketing Officer)
University of Phoenix: (looking up contacts)
Bausch & Lomb:
585-338-6000
BARBARA M. KELLEY is corporate vice president – Communications and Investor Relations for Bausch & Lomb, responsible for investor, media and public relations, organizational communications and public affairs.
H&R Block
816-753-6900
Linda M. McDougall
VP Communications
Interestingly… while I was looking, the banners of advertisers were replaced with ABC programming ads. Maybe the advertisers got enough calls, but check out the blog for yourselves.
September 6th, 2006 at 6:35 pm[...] Former 9/11 Commission Co-Chair Tom Kean — a paid advisor to the film — has been defending its many inaccuracies by saying the film uses fictionalized composites and is based on many sources besides the 9/11 report. [...]
September 6th, 2006 at 7:00 pmAS A TEACHER OF HISTORY AND HAVING STUDIED THE THIRD REICH FOR THE BETTER PART OF THE PAST 45 YEARS, I CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE CANNOT SEE THE PARALLELS BETWEEN HOW THE NAZIS CAME TO POWER AND HOW THE NEOCONS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE DOING IT! REICHSTAG FIRE=9/11. THE ENABLING ACT=DISREGARDING THE CONSTITUTION. “HOMELAND SECURITY” & SPYING ON THE PEOPLE=THE GESTAPO, ETC AD FINITUM (OR AD NAUSEUM). THOSE WHO SUPPORT A REGIME GUILTY OF THESE THINGS ARE ACCOMPLICES. ABC, LIKE FOX, HAS BECOME A MOUTHPIECE FOR BUSH, FUNCTIONING LIKE RADIO BERLIN. IN-CIDENTALLY, I HAVE NEVER CARED AT ALL FOR MICKEY MOUSE. OUT OF RESPECT FOR WALT DISNEY, HE IS ROLLING OVER IN HIS GRAVE OVER THIS!
September 6th, 2006 at 7:13 pm911 was used an an excuse to start the war in Iraq, and whether or not the U.S. Gov’t had something to do with it, or was merely inept is cause for serious discussion. Why haven’t the indescrepencies been on the front pages of all the major newspapers in the country? I’ll tell you why, the repulicans own many of these newspapers, and even the papers that aren’t owned outright by right-wingers, and owned by folks who will do NOTHING to offend their advertizers and subscribers. The day of real news is dead.. Everything in the media is now propaganda. Look at Fox News; they begin discussing something factual, then all of a sudden they bring Ann Coulter! What the hell is with that? That’s when I realized years ago Fox was total bullsh*t. As far as out and out corruption at the highest levels, all one has to do is look at (legitimate) U.S. History, and look at the Rise (and fall) of the Third Reich. U.S. history reflects that the wealthy cattlemen, railmen, and industrialists (and later, oilmen) moved steadily westward stealing land in huge swaths and killing the native peoples for their personal gain. This is the same as what’s happening in Iraq. Look at the facts; a wealthy bunch of Republicans destroys a country so they can rebuild it? Translation; we’ll go in, blow the s*it out of them and take over. We’ll get the oil, the land, and the construction no-bid contracts. Hell, we can even steal pallets full of cash while we’re there, what could be sweeter?
It’s the same formula the evil, wealthy elite have always followed. Find a poor people/nation, and rape them completely (just make sure they have brown skin).
As far as the Third Reich, Cheney is basically following Hitler’s rise to power. I say Cheney, because he is the brains behind this whole debacle known as the Bush presidency. Bush is only a “good ol boy” figurehead, and he’s not even doing that well. At any rate, do a little research and you’ll see how this administration tells huge lies using the media, and keeps hammering them home as if they are gospel. (Hitler said, “If you tell a big enough lie often enough, they will believe it.”) Look how the NSA(SS) are spying on the American people, and how this was sneakily implemented well before 911, which is the reason this administration is giving for this illegal snooping. Look at how Haliburton, Betchel, The Carlyle Group, Exxon-Mobile, etc, seamlessly and secretly blend with the current administration. Is that not the exact definition of Facism?
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September 6th, 2006 at 7:30 pmThe only true, free media now is the internet; why do you thing the NSA is monitoring every transmission? They want to nip any rabble-rousers in the bud. If there’s a person or group seriously gaining momentum in achieving a large anti-bush, anti gov’t, or at least anti-present administration following, they will take steps to quash this individual or movement. Their next move is to strictly limit internet access and create new laws governing internet usage to be able to “legally”penalize those who “break” these new “laws”, which they are in the not so early phases of now…
September 6th, 2006 at 7:39 pmWait…what?
Fictional, make-believe sugar-coated crap from Disney?
I’m shocked.
Speaking of which, I think this year, and every year from here on out, I’ll waste my family’s vacation and, more important to you Disney, my money on other venues.
France, here we come!
September 6th, 2006 at 9:02 pmRemember all those crappy ABC “Movie of the Week” made for TV movies back in the 70’s and 80’s?
September 6th, 2006 at 9:48 pm“Black Market Baby” and “Not With MY Daughter You Don’t” starring illuminaries such as Linda Perl and Sally Fields… God those were shitty movies, and now they’re making yet another crappy movie, some things never change…
[...] The Path to 9/11 continues to generate considerable controversy, with those who have seen portions finding multiple factual errors. Think Progress reports that while right wing pundits and bloggers have received advanced copies, Clinton Administration officials, who are falsely accused of actions which increased the risk of the 9/11 attacks, have been denied the ability to view the entire miniseries. The portions which they are aware of have been found to be highly inaccurate. Richard Clarke states “It’s 180 degrees from what happened. So, yeah, I think you would have to describe that as deeply flawed.†They quote a letter from Madeline Albright which states “the drama depicts scenes that never happened, events that never took place, decisions that were never made and conversations that never occurred; it asserts as fact things that are not fact.” UPI reports that Sandy Berger calls the scenes involving him “complete fabrications.” Crooks and Liars has a transcript and video of an interview with former Bush counterterrorism official, Roger Cressey who states “it’s sheer fantasy.” [...]
September 6th, 2006 at 10:01 pmNot sure I’m armed with the ability to notice what is fact/fiction in the movie. Should I do this?
Comment by Michael Shermis — September 6, 2006 @ 5:13 pm
Tough call. But seeing as how your local station is convinced that ABC does not have a political agenda, I’d contact them again (via phone, if possible) and let them know that advance copies of the movie were provided to rightwing sources, yet reportedly no one from the “left” has been able to get a copy for review, nor have members of the Clinton administration, including Bill himself.
I’d also remind Mr. Lundy that ABC has now changed their story on the source(s) of this movie. As you can see from a more recent post here on TP, ABC is now telling Fox News that the movie is based “solely and completely” on the commission’s report.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:22 pm[...] Think Progress states: ABC has been aggressively advancing its inaccurate and politically slanted miniseries, “The Path to 9/11,†to the right wing. Big players like Rush Limbaugh have been provided copies, as have obscure right-wing bloggers like Patterico. [...]
September 6th, 2006 at 11:25 pmI wonder what Clinton and the people who worked in his administration
September 7th, 2006 at 1:52 amwill do if these neo-cons air the “movie”…
I have to say BIIIIIG LAWSUITS!!!!
[...] And while the “docudrama†lays the blame for 9/11 at the door of Clinton, ABC is refusing to provide an advanced copy of film to Clinton’s office or former officials from his time in office, like Sec. of State Madeleine Albright and National Security Adviser Samuel Berger. [...]
September 7th, 2006 at 2:21 amThis is great! Michael Moore comes out with a fictional piece of crap, and you libs think it’s the greatest movie ever made. ABC comes out with a fictional piece of crap and you’re all up in arms about it.
You people are pathetic.
September 7th, 2006 at 9:12 amHey Todd-please enlighten us as to what was fictional in Moore’s movie?
September 7th, 2006 at 9:17 amOh for goodness sakes pinhead (appropriate name by the way).
Spend 10 seconds of your precious time and do a little research. Just google Michael Moore lies and read on to your hearts content. His fabrications are well documented.
Sheesh. It never ceases to amaze me how libs will circle the wagons no matter how much facts fly in their faces.
Pathetic.
September 7th, 2006 at 9:31 am[...] MyDD’s Matt Stoller and others have developed Open Letter to ABC, a blog that seeks to persuade ABC to admit its $40 million fictional docudrama “The Path to 9/11″ is filled with inaccuracies. The site traces the source material for the mockumentary back to “an avowed right-wing activist” and Bush administration PR flack John Miller, catalogues a number of significant fabrications, and provides links to sites that promote citizen action. [...]
September 7th, 2006 at 9:37 amTodd
Oh, you mean Moorewatch? That one has already been debunked.
Now unless you have anything real, buh-bye.
September 7th, 2006 at 9:38 am[...] ABC is marketing its docudrama, The Path to 9/11, as “based on the 9/11 Commission Report.” It is defending the films multiple inaccuracies by claiming some scenes were “drawn from a variety of sources.” [...]
September 7th, 2006 at 9:58 amUhh, Bruce, are you able to read? Because if you can read, you’d notice that their are quite a few websites out there detailing Michael Moore’s penchant for not telling the truth.
It’s so funny that when a left-winger lies to spite a right-winger, you libs will go to extreme lengths to defend them. When a right-winger lies to spite a left-winger, you’re the first ones to jump up and down and demand they be silenced.
So, Bruce, while you might enjoy being a pathetic hypocrite, the rest of us normal people think you should just shut up already. So, unless you’re willing to face facts and engage in a bit of intellectual honesty, buh-bye yourself.
September 7th, 2006 at 10:09 amHow does it feel . . ….
now that the shoe is on the other foot? Our Democratic friends loved the fanciful drama of a Clintonesque president dramatized in The West Wing. They knew and we knew that that show could only help the Democrats and hurt the GOP. And the short-live…
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September 7th, 2006 at 10:43 amABC has no obligation to share it with anyone before it airs. Since, they had to know that it was going to cause the “left” to get upset, they should have not previewed it to the “right”, but it is there right.
Besides that, the facts are that Reagan, Bush 1 and Clinton all missed opportunities to end this rush to terrorism before it started. Carter helped set the seeds with his weakness in foreign policy – giving stuff away and caving to make foreign leaders happy does not necessarily make for good policy.
The real first signs, according to public record, began under Reagan and continued to grow until 9/11. This means that it was most evident during Clinton, who’s administration has admitted to at waiving off at least three chances to capture Osma. Do we know every detail of the conversations that lead the Clinton team to making their decisions? No, of course not, but that is why this is a movie based on real events, not a true to life documentary. Learn the difference, people, and stop complaining just because it is happening to your side this time.
September 7th, 2006 at 10:49 amABC Refuses to Provide Film to Clinton, Albright, Berger…
ABC has been aggressively advancing its inaccurate and politically slanted miniseries, “The Path to 9/11,” to the right wing. Big players like Rush Limbaugh have been provided copies, as have obscure right-wing bloggers like Patterico. …
September 7th, 2006 at 11:19 amIs ABC the new FOX?
September 7th, 2006 at 12:36 pmAll this publicity you liberals are giving the movie is only helping ABC.
The movie is over 5 hours and will dominate 2 nights.
Clinton had 3 opportunities to get UBL, not saying that would have prevented 911.
September 7th, 2006 at 12:37 pmwhats the matter confused you don’t like historical accounts.
I believe Condi Rice comes off looking bad too.
But let us face it. Allbright is a complete joke and little children like Clinton’s team should not run security affairs.
Recall removing the W’s and the explicit pictures left after Clinton left office.
September 7th, 2006 at 12:38 pmOh yah, and stealing the furniture on Hillary’s part.
Comment by progressaurus rex
Rex you call a former CIA Director a wimp (Bush Sr.) ?
LoL he’d smack you down and if he did’nt others in the CIA would.
September 7th, 2006 at 12:41 pmWhatever happened to that movie about the Reagans that CBS was going to run a couple of years ago? Gee, I wanted to see that so badly.
September 7th, 2006 at 3:45 pmThe fact that ABC Televison Network Inc., has decided to run “The Path to 9/11,” should be NO surprise, afterall ABC Inc., is a capitalist entity with an obligation to it’s share holder’s first and foremost. If, they have determined that showing “The Path to 9/11″ will favor their stock per share prices, then they have to run the movie as good corporate officer’s. Money knows NO ethics, and apparently those exec’s overseeing it have none either.
September 7th, 2006 at 3:46 pmThat said, I personally disagree with the decision to run such a controversial and right leaning movie on “Free TV.” Afterall, the products used to “sponsor” the showing this “political statement,” are the same one’s that I use, my mother & father use, and countless other friend’s and family member’s use these product’s, and they to are against the showing of “ANY” movie that is so “out of balance, like “The Path to 9/11″ being broadcast on “FREE TV.”
I am NOW boycotting the Dallas-Fort Worth ABC affiliate, WFAA television channel 8, and may from now on if, “The Path to 9/11″ is aired without a rebuttal opportunity to be shown within one week of the time that “The Path to 9/11,” is being aired, and must be shown in the same time-slot. Perhaps, ABC & Channel 8 exec’s need a few dissatisfied viewer’s knocking on the doors of their personal residence’s to express their indignity one on one!Never have I been this upset over the airing of anything that has come previous to this on FREE TV, although breaking in on the NFL football game with Heidi is a close second.
Whatever happened to that movie about the Reagans that CBS was going to air a couple of years ago? Gee, I really wanted to see that one.
September 7th, 2006 at 3:47 pmWhatever you do, DON’T google “Tim Osman”.
Or for that matter, don’t google “Fatty bin Laden”.
I can’t believe there are still people moronic enough to shill for this rotten administration.
September 7th, 2006 at 4:01 pm“Boycott Lost, Desperate Housewifes and Monday Night Football.
Comment by Chauncey Gardner — September 6, 2006 @ 11:52 am”
Oh barf! Desperate Housewifes indeed! Why drink a glass of milk when you can sink your teeth into some real meat. Just watch a few episodes of BBCAmerica’s “Footballers Wives” and you’ll never go back to the vacuous teeny-bopper mentality of Desperate Housewhores”.
Now comes the big question. Whose money is financing this piece of propaganda called the Path to 911? Scaife perhaps?
I sent emails to Scholastic and ABC. I told ABC that I would never watch their programs nor would I ever buy anything Disney ever again unless they cleaned up the 911 docu-fluff. Considering that Disneys’ stuffed animals are made in China sweatshops I don’t buy it anyway.
September 7th, 2006 at 5:36 pmSounds like it’s a crock-u-drama
September 7th, 2006 at 7:06 pm[...] ABC ‘Docu-Drama’ I’m sure you’ve heard about this, and I don’t have too much more to add, but I feel the need to simply make note of it. Regardless of any of the reassuring bullshit we may be subjected to, we cannot forget that advanced copies were given to the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Patterico. Furthermore, copies were denied to the likes of Madeleine Albright and Samuel Berger (tastefully portrayed by the pasty whiteness of Kevin Dunn). In the one touted scene from the docu-trauma, Clinton and Berger choose not to authorize the killing of Bin Laden, and the CIA fella responds in a predictable Team America fashion. Not only is this 100% FABRICATED, but in fact Bin Laden had been convicted in absentia by the United States in 1998, and there was presidential authorization for his demise should he be found (link to follow). More troubling is the fact that Scholastic (yes, remember them from grade school? The crappy book catalogues with nothing interesting to read?) has teamed up with the producers of the film to use it as a teaching tool. I’m sorry to sound conspiratorial on you (although you could call me worse things) but I think the intention here is to forever tarnish the younger generation’s understanding of the events. We are witnessing a blatant application of ‘revisionist history’ in front of our eyes, and the lack of fury around this is stunning, and enough to drive one to drink. [...]
September 7th, 2006 at 7:09 pm[...] http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/06/abc-dvd/. [...]
September 7th, 2006 at 8:26 pm[...] Earlier I had told you that the left is coming un-hinged with the ABC documentary “The Path To 9-11“. [...]
September 7th, 2006 at 8:54 pm[...] You’ve probably heard about the ABC miniseries The Path to 9/11, which has been criticized by the people portrayed there as inaccurate and biased. ABC has distributed advance copies to conservative pundits and bloggers, but not to liberals. [...]
September 7th, 2006 at 9:18 pmWhy didn’t people in Michael Moore’s movie get to try to edit and correct it. Isn’t this a little thing called free speech? You get to argue after the fact and not before someone gets to say something. ABC or CNN or Fox or any of us. The double standards that people on both sides try to employ are pathetic. Yes that means you.
September 7th, 2006 at 11:02 pmZach Van Draden – afterall ABC Inc., is a capitalist entity with an obligation to it’s share holder’s first and foremost.
—- capitalism you despise ?
If I sell you a better web site why should I be punished . Morti
Zach Van Draden — I am NOW boycotting the Dallas-Fort Worth ABC affiliate, WFAA television channel 8
well there you are using capitalism to your advantage. Nice move .:_)
September 8th, 2006 at 1:46 amIt is amazing that the country has survived as long as it has with idiots like those I have read here.
You blame Republicans for everything!
Democrats taking the majority of the House and Senate will DOOM this counrty to being the next FRANCE. France, in case you haven’t heard, has nearly lost it’s country to ISLAMIC immigrants.
Democrats will not protect this country because: it is too difficult, it’s easier to covert to Islam, they only fight Republicans and 3/4 of the 911 hijackers were registered DEMOCRATS.
ISLAM means SURRENDER,
so, apparently does D-E_M-O-C-R-A-T in this country.
You “proggressives” (what a crock of sh*t) think Clinton was a good president and don’t care (if you don’t KNOW, you have blinders on or are just BLIND) that Clinton is responsible for our high gas prices.
Why? You might ask (unless you have your bliners on or have covered your eyes).
Because Clinton gave our DEFENSE TECHNOLOGY to China (even the New York Times printed banner front page headlines to that effect for FOUR DAYS (until Clinton had NATO forces assemble with U.S. forces to start bombimg Yugoslavia) and now China has moved 30 years forward in technology and needs that much more energy. Thanks, Bill, NOT!
And hwo do Democrats blame? BUSH and Republicans, of course!
Oh, one of the totally “half-a-brain” (Democrat half, that is ) people here implied that a news show made a mistake by having Ann Coulter on a serious news program. I guess what makes Coulter bitch is LAW BREAKERS, not “necessarily” Democrats (unless “law breaker” and Democrat mean the same thing). Hummm? Maybe I am on to something here? Anyhow, since Coulter has more intelligence and education than likely anybody here (including me)…I will mention that she has a degree in CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. That is why she has been on serious news regarding Constitutional law, since Clinton started breaking them!
I might not agree with Republicans and/or Bush a lot, but the Democrats scare the sh*t out of me in caring about the country’s ( and my children and their children’s) future. If they get power again this country is DOOMED.
Not that this makes any difference to anyone here…I just had to say something or I would feel guilty for not, at least, trying to get someone to CHECK THE FACTS before defending the indefencesable.
September 8th, 2006 at 3:02 amABC should change their name to APC, All Propaganda Channel. For the bozos that still claim that Clinton did nothing and/or is at fault… try the following link.
Amazing that a bj & a stained blue dress outweighs treason/war crimes/crimes against humanity/illegal invasion and occupation of a sovereign nation that had absolutely nothing to do with 9-11. The only WMDs are in the Bush White House, Weapons of Mass Deception.
Was Clinton perfect? No. But while he was in office, we had allies and we weren’t the most hated nation on the planet. We also weren’t in hock up to our eyeballs to the Chinese.
September 8th, 2006 at 3:46 amI am writing at the bottom of this blog and I am chilled! I know how the republicans are going to take back their esteem! Bush a month or so ago, dismantled the money for the search for Usma Bin laden! Today I saw the government suddenly wants to go after UBL, and the terroists in Iraq. Bush said last week Iraq had nothing to do with the 911 attacks. The plan is now to go after UBL, and tie it all together after the fact. Bush says 911 and Iraq are not tied but because of the terroist rising that is happing in Iraq now they can simply say we now have a connection. WE WERE THE CAUSE OF THE CONNECTION! The government will go after UBL. Take him out , fictionally and be the heros of America and the world. Two years ago Bush said I don’t care about UBL, I don’t spend time thinking about him. The election is comming and this is the stratigy. GET BIN LADEN! How smart but how stupid. I believe they will say he is dead but he really is not!
September 8th, 2006 at 4:14 amI have not seen this movie yet, like everybody else who is either dissing it or praising it. If it contains non factual material I think ABC would be foolish not to edit those parts out. Lets be honest people, BOTH the Clinton administration AND the Bush administration made mistakes regarding Islamic terrorism ( as did Bush 1, Reagan and especially Carter ) The main thing to take away from this movie is not “who to blame”, but rather what we must learn from the past. And if the past teaches us anything, it is that we have a real problem with Islamic Radicals. If you do not believe me, ask the families of the dead from: The Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon, the uncountable hijackings of airliners in the 80s, the 1st World Trade Center bombing, the 1993 attacks on US Soldiers in Mogadishu, the 1998 US Embassy bombings, the 2000 USS Cole bombing and of course 911 just to name a few.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:32 amKevin says it best. Most of us haven’t seen this yet so are not qualified to comment.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:52 amMany people are much more concerned with Bush-bashing than with the truth.
The world is at risk from Islamic Radicals. These people will kill you whether you like Bush or hate Bush. THEY HATE US…ALL OF US. Unless we unite and face the truth there is no hope of defeating the enemy or remaining free.
Kevin says it best. Most of us have not seen this so are not qualified to critique it. Many people are more concerned with Bush Bashing than with the truth. The world is at risk from Islamic Radicals. You do not hear it on the news, but Muslims are killing Christians old and young from Egypt to Pakistan. (do a little research – a good place to start is Voice of the Martyrs.) They do not care if you HATE Bush or LOVE Bush. They want to kill you. Unless we unite and face facts freedom as we know it is in danger!
September 8th, 2006 at 7:09 amRush and other conservatives were NOT provided copies of this in advance. Quit lying to your readers!
September 8th, 2006 at 11:23 amDid Bush complain when Michael Moore smeared him in Fahrenheit 9/11. Tell Clinton to grow up, and everyone in his former administration. I hope ABC doesn’t cave in. I want to watch the uncut version – Freedom of speech, people, remember? Stop whining.
September 8th, 2006 at 11:49 amIf the president’s family and friends were not in the oil business, and Dick Cheney was not associated with Haliburton, I would be behind them 100%….BUT WAKE THE HELL UP PEOPLE….THEY ARE THIEVES THAT ARE ROBBING ALL OF US FOR PERSONAL GAIN AND THAT IS REASON BEHIND EVERY MOVE THEY MAKE!!!!!! You republicans are friggin retards!
September 8th, 2006 at 4:47 pmI love it Liberals all over are whining about this but loved Michael the Moron :)) you libs are pathetic :)) HA HA HA
September 8th, 2006 at 9:06 pm[...] Here’s the lineup. Professors of History from many of the finest universities in the country have said fix it or dump it. Former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger, together with former Secretary of State Madeline Albright, says hogwash. Richard Clarke, counter terrorism czar for Bush I, Clinton and Bush II, and now, ironically, counter terrorism expert for ABS, says hogwash. Even Harvey Kietel, star of the movie, says hogwash! [...]
September 8th, 2006 at 10:30 pmI’ve posted a blog for a grassroots ABC station boycott campaign ala Sinclair boycott pre-2004 slime campaign:
Boycott ABC’s Road to 9/11 (and the local stations who carry it…)
It also links out to ABC network petition.
If you feel it, do it!
September 8th, 2006 at 11:59 pmbb
Fictionalizing is really uncalled for when the truth is even more damning.
September 9th, 2006 at 2:14 amIt’s interesting that Roger Dodger is accusing Clinton of not having exactly what his idiot compadres tried so hard to impeach him over -having balls (and using them). Reality is relative in NeoConman land.
September 9th, 2006 at 9:15 am#194 John – Did you write that all by yourself?? Impressive.
September 9th, 2006 at 3:04 pm[...] Glenn Greenwald is spreading disinformation about “The Path to 9/11.” In this post, he endorses the myth — previously propagated by Think Progress and FireDogLake, and previously debunked by me — that the producers of “The Path to 9/11″ are so desperate to push the film to conservatives that they even provided an advance screening to obscure conservative blogs with tiny audiences, like mine: Think Progress has documented that bloggers with — to use Hewitt’s sneering description — “tiny” audiences received screeners, but they were individuals who were certain to ooze with praise for the film. And ooze with praise is exactly what they did (emphasis added). [...]
September 9th, 2006 at 3:57 pmMost of us haven’t seen this yet so are not qualified to comment.
Many people are much more concerned with Bush-bashing than with the truth.
The world is at risk from Islamic Radicals. These people will kill you whether you like Bush or hate Bush. THEY HATE US…ALL OF US. Unless we unite and face the truth there is no hope of defeating the enemy or remaining free.
/AGREE
September 9th, 2006 at 6:56 pm[...] Of course, the letter is based on reports from other people, since no copies were available for the people portrayed in the film to view. [...]
September 10th, 2006 at 6:48 amYou liberals are so hypocritical. Free speech, as long as it’s yours. Only portray factual movies. What about the screed from your fellow libs like Davinci Code and Fahrenheit 911.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:06 am[...] And what Think Progress said: Big players like Rush Limbaugh have been provided copies, as have obscure right-wing bloggers like Patterico. [...]
September 10th, 2006 at 7:06 pmYou all are blinded by your hate that there really is evil in this world i.e. terrorists. You need to wake up and shake off the hate. Or you can all go watch Farenheit 9/11 and pat each other on the back. Sorry, but I’d rather shake the hand of my buddy who’s fighting for our country.
September 11th, 2006 at 3:49 pm[...] Legum has done a lot of good work on the story, but he’s also made a significant error. He claimed that ABC was even providing advance copies of The Path to 9/11 to obscure right-wing bloggers: ABC has been aggressively advancing its inaccurate and politically slanted miniseries, “The Path to 9/11,†to the right wing. Big players like Rush Limbaugh have been provided copies, as have obscure right-wing bloggers like Patterico. [...]
September 11th, 2006 at 9:13 pmWho cares how this makes the governement look. That’s not what the movie was about. This is about the TERRORISTS. Even with the edits, which probably didn’t amount to much anyway, this was a very thought provoking and well done Docudrama. Praises to ABC for not bowing to the ex-politicals as well as those still in office.
We all know that our government didn’t fully comprehend our enemy and made poor decisions based on political reasons rather then what was the right thing to do.
Its time to grow up and move on. We all need to learn from this and pressure our representatives to put into place as much as feasibly possible to protect us to the best of their abilities. There isn’t a one of us that is perfect or capable of keeping our own house in order to twart such a tragic, diabolical attack.
September 12th, 2006 at 12:59 pmI second R Mosiman’s comment 215.
It never ceases to amaze me how much some of you can complain about free speech and call for censorship when you don’t like what someone has to say, but draw no line for yourselves when it comes to things that you agree with.
It’s like burning the American flag to celebrate your freedom… Idiots!
September 12th, 2006 at 2:21 pmYou say Clinton did go after UBL. Are you talking about when he couldn’t get the balls to send a ground team in with the Northern Alliance, and sent a missle instead? (which blew up an asprin factory, if you remember). I don’t give a rats but who in the Clinton administration told the Pakistanis about the attack (but I believe it was Albright). The fact that they could of had UBL without sending a missle and just let the opportunity pass by is inexcusable!!!
September 14th, 2006 at 10:07 pmNow as far as ABC being a right wing extremist T.V. station is a joke. I am a conservative and have always found it to be very left wing, infact this is the very first (to my pleasure) conservative thing I’ve ever seen on ABC. I believe most of what was portrayed on “The Path to 911″. Here’s why, because Clinton & most of his staff & administration were and still are the most dishonest group to ever run the White House & this country. He should have been taking care of the business of this country instead of covering up taking advantage of a young vulnerable starryeyed girl. But no while terrorists were planning the worst attack on U.S. soil, he was play highschool games and let the worst criminal since Hitler just walk away when we would have had him. To me Clinton is the criminal and you are his sheep!!!!!!
To all of your who are/were against this movie it’s called freedom of speech it’s called dramatization. michael moore does and expresses them both (remember fahrenheit 9/11?). If your in college and your professor told you to hate this movie go buy an Ann Coulter book, (you should you’d learn more than your gonna at harvard) or Dinesh D’souza:letters to a young conservative. If you are not being swayed by someone who grades you you need to drop the joint, or get a lobotomy.
September 17th, 2006 at 11:00 pmWhy can’t we just focus on who is really to blame? Bin Laden! Why is everyone so quick to blame President Bush for every little thing that goes wrong just because you don’t like him? If you fell and broke your leg in the next few minutes, I guess that would be Bush’s fault too,huh? We as a country are all to blame. President Bush is not to balme for every little thing that went wrong. He did not tell the airlines workers to over ride an alert and let a potentially dangerous person on a flight just because it was too much trouble for them to follow procedure. Or what about letting someone through security without a photo id? We all got a wake up call 5 years ago.
September 20th, 2006 at 11:40 pmSadly, it takes a tradgedy to do that. If we get alerts, we just think they must be false or would never happen to us. Now time has gone by and some of us are starting to put our guard down again. Let’s stop fighting among ourselves and start paying attention to what is going on around us so we can prevent another 911. In 5 years nothing new has happened on this soil and plots have been stopped. Who do you think we should thank for that?
[...] In case you passed out on the couch for 4 hours after work like I did, then maybe you haven’t seen it yet. It’s a FULL transcript of Chris Wallace’s interview with President Clinton. Clinton lays the smackdown on Wallace when he tries to ask questions based on the misinformation spread by Path to 9/11. [...]
September 23rd, 2006 at 12:32 amYou know! It’s absolutely amazing that when mini-series that praise Left-Wing causes, Liberals fall over themselves, Praising Themselves. But, when something like “Path To 9/11″ comes along—attacking the decisions of both Democratic & Republican Presidential Administrations, “Well, we can’t permit that to be Aired!” “Path To 9/11″ show the indecisions & mistakes that BOTH Political Sides made. TRUTH HURTS DOESN’T IT! Start Doing Your Frickin’ Jobs OR GET OUT OF OFFICE!
September 23rd, 2006 at 11:39 amThe left prides itself on it’s tireless quest for tolerance………… yet I have heard the most hatefilled, violent, nasty commentary from those same ‘tolerant ones’ hmmmm Something else I find perplexing is the violent nature of the “peace demonstrations” I didn’t know looting and destruction of property was part of the peace process. But then I shouldn’t be surprised when that same group will burn down a subdivision of homes to save a toad or a garter snake. The Path to 9/11? Methinks thou doth protest to much. All that vitriole from our friends on the left speaks volumes. One can almost smell the fear. Their secret is out!
September 25th, 2006 at 11:05 am
Any Democrat has zero credibility in bashing this movie unless they also bash Farenheit 9/11 for all the same reasons. Otherwise, you’re guilty of something called “bias”. It also helps to actually see the footage before launching into a full-scale attack. Thank God you guys don’t run the country right now with that kind of gun jumping.
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September 29th, 2006 at 5:54 pmI say HURRAY for ABC. Open your eyes people. This is the first time the fact that Clinton had Bin Laden in his sights and let him go has surfaced. What will it take for you guys to accept the truth?
January 29th, 2007 at 5:27 pmOops..meant to say “This ISN’T the first time….”
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