Comments on: Conservative Media Watchdog Says ABC Should Correct Inaccuracies In Path to 9/11 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:20:03 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Pierre Legrand’s Pink Flamingo Bar » Perfect, being the enemy of the good, freezes us into silence. ABC Path to 9/11 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-796027 Pierre Legrand’s Pink Flamingo Bar » Perfect, being the enemy of the good, freezes us into silence. ABC Path to 9/11 Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:08:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-796027 [...] If ABC pulls the movie it won’t only be because of the actions of the left wing but also because of the actions of these folks. We didn’t support them when they needed it. Thanks to ThinkProgress. John Podhoretz, conservative columnist and Fox News contributor: The portrait of Albright is an unacceptable revision of recent history and an unfair mark on a public servant who, no matter her shortcomings, doesn’t deserve to be remembered by millions of Americans as the inadvertent (and truculent) savior of Osama bin Laden. Samuel Berger, Clinton’s national security adviser, also seems to have just cause for complaint. [NYPost, 9/8/06] James Taranto, OpinionJournal.com editor:The Clintonites may have a point here. A few years ago, when the shoe was on the other foot, we were happy to see CBS scotch “The Reagans.” [OpinionJournal, 9/7/06] Dean Barnett, conservative commentator posting on Hugh Hewitt’s blog:One can (if one so chooses) give the filmmakers artistic license to [fabricate a scene]. But if that is what they have done, conservative analysts who back this movie as a historical document will mortgage their credibility doing so. [Hugh Hewitt blog, 9/6/06] Chris Wallace, Fox News Sunday anchor:When you put somebody on the screen and say that’s Madeleine Albright and she said this in a specific conversation and she never did say it, I think it’s slanderous, I think it’s defamatory and I think that ABC and Disney should be held to account. [Fox, 9/8/06] Captain’s Quarters blog:If the Democrats do not like what ABC wants to broadcast, they have every right to protest it — and in this case, they had a point. [Captain Quarter’s blog, 9/7/06] Bill Bennett, conservative author, radio host, and TV commentator:Look, “The Path to 9/11? is strewn with a lot of problems and I think there were problems in the Clinton administration. But that’s no reason to falsify the record, falsify conversations by either the president or his leading people and you know it just shouldn’t happen. [CNN, 9/8/06] Seth Liebsohn, Claremont Institute fellow and produce of Bill Bennett’s radio show: I oppose this miniseries as well if it is fiction dressed up as fact, creates caricatures of real persons and events that are inaccurate, and inserts quotes that were not uttered, especially to make a point that was not intended. [Glenn Greewald’s blog, 9/7/06] Richard Miniter, conservative author of “Losing bin Laden: How Bill Clinton’s Failures Unleashed Global Terror”:If people wanted to be critical of the Clinton years there’s things they could have said, but the idea that someone had bin Laden in his sights in 1998 or any other time and Sandy Berger refused to pull the trigger, there’s zero factual basis for that. [CNN, 9/7/06] Brent Bozell, founder and president of the conservative Media Research Center:I think that if you have a scene, or two scenes, or three scenes, important scenes, that do not have any bearing on reality and you can edit them, I think they should edit them. [MSNBC, 9/6/06] Bill O’Reilly, Fox News pundit:Ok, we’re talking about the run up to 9-11 and this movie that they’re re-cutting now — and they should because it puts words in the mouth of real people, actors playing real people that they didn’t say and its wrong. [O’Reilly radio show, 9/8/06] [...] [...] If ABC pulls the movie it won’t only be because of the actions of the left wing but also because of the actions of these folks. We didn’t support them when they needed it. Thanks to ThinkProgress. John Podhoretz, conservative columnist and Fox News contributor: The portrait of Albright is an unacceptable revision of recent history and an unfair mark on a public servant who, no matter her shortcomings, doesn’t deserve to be remembered by millions of Americans as the inadvertent (and truculent) savior of Osama bin Laden. Samuel Berger, Clinton’s national security adviser, also seems to have just cause for complaint. [NYPost, 9/8/06] James Taranto, OpinionJournal.com editor:The Clintonites may have a point here. A few years ago, when the shoe was on the other foot, we were happy to see CBS scotch “The Reagans.” [OpinionJournal, 9/7/06] Dean Barnett, conservative commentator posting on Hugh Hewitt’s blog:One can (if one so chooses) give the filmmakers artistic license to [fabricate a scene]. But if that is what they have done, conservative analysts who back this movie as a historical document will mortgage their credibility doing so. [Hugh Hewitt blog, 9/6/06] Chris Wallace, Fox News Sunday anchor:When you put somebody on the screen and say that’s Madeleine Albright and she said this in a specific conversation and she never did say it, I think it’s slanderous, I think it’s defamatory and I think that ABC and Disney should be held to account. [Fox, 9/8/06] Captain’s Quarters blog:If the Democrats do not like what ABC wants to broadcast, they have every right to protest it — and in this case, they had a point. [Captain Quarter’s blog, 9/7/06] Bill Bennett, conservative author, radio host, and TV commentator:Look, “The Path to 9/11? is strewn with a lot of problems and I think there were problems in the Clinton administration. But that’s no reason to falsify the record, falsify conversations by either the president or his leading people and you know it just shouldn’t happen. [CNN, 9/8/06] Seth Liebsohn, Claremont Institute fellow and produce of Bill Bennett’s radio show: I oppose this miniseries as well if it is fiction dressed up as fact, creates caricatures of real persons and events that are inaccurate, and inserts quotes that were not uttered, especially to make a point that was not intended. [Glenn Greewald’s blog, 9/7/06] Richard Miniter, conservative author of “Losing bin Laden: How Bill Clinton’s Failures Unleashed Global Terror”:If people wanted to be critical of the Clinton years there’s things they could have said, but the idea that someone had bin Laden in his sights in 1998 or any other time and Sandy Berger refused to pull the trigger, there’s zero factual basis for that. [CNN, 9/7/06] Brent Bozell, founder and president of the conservative Media Research Center:I think that if you have a scene, or two scenes, or three scenes, important scenes, that do not have any bearing on reality and you can edit them, I think they should edit them. [MSNBC, 9/6/06] Bill O’Reilly, Fox News pundit:Ok, we’re talking about the run up to 9-11 and this movie that they’re re-cutting now — and they should because it puts words in the mouth of real people, actors playing real people that they didn’t say and its wrong. [O’Reilly radio show, 9/8/06] [...]

]]> By: Are people THAT dense?? http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-792888 Are people THAT dense?? Sat, 09 Sep 2006 04:08:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-792888 [...] It isn’t as though they’re airing inaccuracies so grevious that experts and historians who’s viewed the film has called it wrong, that it was produced by a right-wing propaganda firm, it’s not like an insider told a blogger It was meant to attack Clinton, written by a guy who wants to transform Hollywood for Conservatives, it’s not like conservatives are calling it “Defamatory” and “zero factual basis”, or that a conservative media watchdog group is saying that ABC shouldn’t air it, or even A Fox Anchor, even Bush’s own terror expert says it’s fantasyland. It’s not that ABC is falsely claiming that the docudrama is based on the 9/11 report, and it has nothing to do with the fact that ABC were trying to send out this show to Children with error-filled booklets. [...] [...] It isn’t as though they’re airing inaccuracies so grevious that experts and historians who’s viewed the film has called it wrong, that it was produced by a right-wing propaganda firm, it’s not like an insider told a blogger It was meant to attack Clinton, written by a guy who wants to transform Hollywood for Conservatives, it’s not like conservatives are calling it “Defamatory” and “zero factual basis”, or that a conservative media watchdog group is saying that ABC shouldn’t air it, or even A Fox Anchor, even Bush’s own terror expert says it’s fantasyland. It’s not that ABC is falsely claiming that the docudrama is based on the 9/11 report, and it has nothing to do with the fact that ABC were trying to send out this show to Children with error-filled booklets. [...]

]]> By: 186k Per Second - » Path to 9/11: Nutroots - Pedal to the Metal! http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-792162 186k Per Second - » Path to 9/11: Nutroots - Pedal to the Metal! Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:56:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-792162 [...] This is not a partisan issue. Numerous conservatives – including Brent Bozell, former Reagan aide Bill Bennett, author Richard Miniter, and others – have said that ABC should correct the factual errors in the series. [...] [...] This is not a partisan issue. Numerous conservatives – including Brent Bozell, former Reagan aide Bill Bennett, author Richard Miniter, and others – have said that ABC should correct the factual errors in the series. [...]

]]> By: 186k Per Second - » Path to 9/11: Nutroots - Pedal to the Metal! http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-792161 186k Per Second - » Path to 9/11: Nutroots - Pedal to the Metal! Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:56:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-792161 [...] This is not a partisan issue. Numerous conservatives – including Brent Bozell, former Reagan aide Bill Bennett, author Richard Miniter, and others – have said that ABC should correct the factual errors in the series. [...] [...] This is not a partisan issue. Numerous conservatives – including Brent Bozell, former Reagan aide Bill Bennett, author Richard Miniter, and others – have said that ABC should correct the factual errors in the series. [...]

]]> By: Think Progress » Conservatives On The Path to 9/11: ‘Unacceptable,’ ‘Defamatory,’ ‘Strewn With A Lot of Problems,’ ‘Zero Factual Basis’ http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-791680 Think Progress » Conservatives On The Path to 9/11: ‘Unacceptable,’ ‘Defamatory,’ ‘Strewn With A Lot of Problems,’ ‘Zero Factual Basis’ Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:43:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-791680 [...] Brent Bozell, founder and president of the conservative Media Research Center: I think that if you have a scene, or two scenes, or three scenes, important scenes, that do not have any bearing on reality and you can edit them, I think they should edit them. [MSNBC, 9/6/06] [...] [...] Brent Bozell, founder and president of the conservative Media Research Center: I think that if you have a scene, or two scenes, or three scenes, important scenes, that do not have any bearing on reality and you can edit them, I think they should edit them. [MSNBC, 9/6/06] [...]

]]> By: ReidBlog http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-789941 ReidBlog Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:35:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-789941 <strong>Showdown...</strong> Congressional Democrats are now directly confronting Disney over its political hit piece, "The Path to 9/11".... Showdown…

Congressional Democrats are now directly confronting Disney over its political hit piece, “The Path to 9/11″….

]]> By: Zooey http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-788629 Zooey Fri, 08 Sep 2006 02:06:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-788629 I think Brent Bozell and Chris Matthews go to the same bad hair stylist. I think Brent Bozell and Chris Matthews go to the same bad hair stylist.

]]> By: r€nato http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-788192 r€nato Thu, 07 Sep 2006 23:45:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-788192 Roger_roger, which president said this about Osama Bin Laden only six months after 9/11: <blockquote>I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.</blockquote> Roger_roger, which president said this about Osama Bin Laden only six months after 9/11:

I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.

]]> By: goose1 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-787830 goose1 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:10:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-787830 Clinton, Gave the order to take out OBL anytime we could. He missed yes, TENET would not try it on a single source info and Clinton took his advice. Bush had him at Tora Bora and let him go. I see a differance! Clinton, Gave the order to take out OBL anytime we could. He missed yes, TENET would not try it on a single source info and Clinton took his advice.

Bush had him at Tora Bora and let him go. I see a differance!

]]> By: j swift http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-787573 j swift Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:27:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-787573 Roger Roger, The Bush Administration has had 5 going 6 years to kill or capture UBL and they have not done it. Give you a hint which President of the United States said UBL does not matter? Roger Roger, The Bush Administration has had 5 going 6 years to kill or capture UBL and they have not done it.

Give you a hint which President of the United States said UBL does not matter?

]]> By: slappymagoo http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-787499 slappymagoo Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:53:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-787499 Wait...I kinda sorta agree with Bozell? Excuse me, I have to look out the window. Pigs may, indeed, be flying. Wait…I kinda sorta agree with Bozell?

Excuse me, I have to look out the window. Pigs may, indeed, be flying.

]]> By: beep52 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-787400 beep52 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:54:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-787400 If Clinton had a chance to take out OBL -- and I've never been convinced that he had a real chance -- he certainly should have, and I think would have. What seems to be lost in all this bruhaha is context. Clinton couldn't lift a finger without the right jumping all over him. And even after the 93 WTC bombing, there was nothing close to public support to invade another country to get al Quada. It took 9/11 to bring the public to the point where they'd support invading Afghanistan. If Clinton had a chance to take out OBL — and I’ve never been convinced that he had a real chance — he certainly should have, and I think would have. What seems to be lost in all this bruhaha is context. Clinton couldn’t lift a finger without the right jumping all over him. And even after the 93 WTC bombing, there was nothing close to public support to invade another country to get al Quada. It took 9/11 to bring the public to the point where they’d support invading Afghanistan.

]]> By: Navy Vet http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-787386 Navy Vet Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:46:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-787386 If Dan Rathers paper were counterfit but factual on Bushits militery career raised such a stink why does path to 911 that is false but presented as factual smell like a Rose or should it be Rove. If Dan Rathers paper were counterfit but factual on Bushits militery career raised such a stink why does path to 911 that is false but presented as factual smell like a Rose or should it be Rove.

]]> By: TripMaster Monkey http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-787371 TripMaster Monkey Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:34:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-787371 Roger_Roger sez: <blockquote><em>Clinton wasn’t a bad president, but he simply made a mistake in not killing OBL when he had the chance. If anything, it would have prevented 9/11 and 2 wars.</em></blockquote> RR, it is disingenuous for you to attempt to insinuate that the death of Osama at Clinton's hands would have prevented Dubya's subsequent invasion of Iraq, as plans for the invasion were already drawn up pre-2001. Had 9/11 not happened, the administration would have manufactured another excuse. Indeed, 9/11 by itself was insufficient...the threat of noexistent weapons of mass destruction had to be tossed into the mix as well. Roger_Roger sez:

Clinton wasn’t a bad president, but he simply made a mistake in not killing OBL when he had the chance. If anything, it would have prevented 9/11 and 2 wars.

RR, it is disingenuous for you to attempt to insinuate that the death of Osama at Clinton’s hands would have prevented Dubya’s subsequent invasion of Iraq, as plans for the invasion were already drawn up pre-2001.

Had 9/11 not happened, the administration would have manufactured another excuse. Indeed, 9/11 by itself was insufficient…the threat of noexistent weapons of mass destruction had to be tossed into the mix as well.

]]> By: Roger_Roger http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-787361 Roger_Roger Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:30:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-787361 Oh, I don't deny that Bush failed. He certainly could have done much much more to prevent 9/11. Clinton had 8 years to catch OBL and failed. Bush had serious warnings and threats poured on his desk leading up to 9/11 and didn't do a thing. Both men failed the American people horribly. Oh, I don’t deny that Bush failed. He certainly could have done much much more to prevent 9/11. Clinton had 8 years to catch OBL and failed. Bush had serious warnings and threats poured on his desk leading up to 9/11 and didn’t do a thing. Both men failed the American people horribly.

]]> By: trblmkr http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-787343 trblmkr Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:23:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-787343 ATTENTION! ANYONE ELSE HERE IN MANHATTAN/NY TODAY? I WANT YOU TO JOIN ME IN FRONT OF ABC'S "Good Morning America" TIMES SQUARE (43RD ST.) STUDIOS TODAY AROUND 4:30 AND TOMORROW AROUND 7:00AM. I will be holdling a sign saying: <strong>A</strong>nti <strong>B</strong>ill <strong>C</strong>linton Ask me why... To draw initial attention and then handing out leaflets describing the current situation. I'm not the bravest soul in the world so anyone willing to join me would be most appreciated. ATTENTION! ANYONE ELSE HERE IN MANHATTAN/NY TODAY?

I WANT YOU TO JOIN ME IN FRONT OF ABC’S “Good Morning America” TIMES SQUARE (43RD ST.) STUDIOS TODAY AROUND 4:30 AND TOMORROW AROUND 7:00AM. I will be holdling a sign saying:

Anti
Bill
Clinton
Ask me why…

To draw initial attention and then handing out leaflets describing the current situation. I’m not the bravest soul in the world so anyone willing to join me would be most appreciated.

]]> By: Juan C http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-787342 Juan C Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:22:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-787342 Hey, Im asking a real question here: Is there any solid proof that OBL planned 9/11? If thats so, please provide links. Thanks. Hey, Im asking a real question here: Is there any solid proof that OBL planned 9/11? If thats so, please provide links. Thanks.

]]> By: Zimzone http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-787315 Zimzone Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:17:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-787315 Roger Rabbit, Go back to Disneyworld & hide in your hole. Fantasy is fine, just don't try to mix it with reality like your buddies in the current administration do. For starters, didn't Bush just <em>dismantle</em>the Osama Bin Laden group at the CIA? Didn't he? You shouldn't drink kool aide & drive, you cwazy wabbit! Roger Rabbit,
Go back to Disneyworld & hide in your hole.
Fantasy is fine, just don’t try to mix it with reality like
your buddies in the current administration do.

For starters, didn’t Bush just dismantlethe
Osama Bin Laden group at the CIA? Didn’t he?

You shouldn’t drink kool aide & drive, you cwazy wabbit!

]]> By: JMiller http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-787308 JMiller Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:15:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-787308 #9: Given that OBL was never anywhere near Iraq, the more expensive, brutal and ugly of the Bush wars would've still gone on as planned -- they'd have just found a different catalyst or had to wait for OBL's 2nd in command to launch an attack -- because part of the difficulty with combating terror is that it is formed by a network of cells, not so much nations and governments (per the new White House report which also notes that some people just plain don't want freedom the way President Bush thought they would). That said, regardless of how many opportunities Clinton may have missed to thwart terrorism (while the Republican congress was aggressively... impeaching his phallus?), the simple fact of the matter is that Bush has had almost 6 full years with a few years' worth of Clinton-era intelligence work to start from... and has delivered justice to who, exactly? #9: Given that OBL was never anywhere near Iraq, the more expensive, brutal and ugly of the Bush wars would’ve still gone on as planned — they’d have just found a different catalyst or had to wait for OBL’s 2nd in command to launch an attack — because part of the difficulty with combating terror is that it is formed by a network of cells, not so much nations and governments (per the new White House report which also notes that some people just plain don’t want freedom the way President Bush thought they would).

That said, regardless of how many opportunities Clinton may have missed to thwart terrorism (while the Republican congress was aggressively… impeaching his phallus?), the simple fact of the matter is that Bush has had almost 6 full years with a few years’ worth of Clinton-era intelligence work to start from… and has delivered justice to who, exactly?

]]> By: fs http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/comment-page-1/#comment-787303 fs Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:14:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/bozell-edit/#comment-787303 ABC statement -- they will air the film -- we must double our efforts NOW ABC statement — they will air the film — we must double our efforts NOW

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