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]]> By: PeaceThroughStrength http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/scholastic-911/comment-page-3/#comment-906941 PeaceThroughStrength Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:07:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/scholastic-911/#comment-906941 Yes, of course angela, Hillary tried to weasel out of her responsibility for voting for the liberation of Iraq. But she relied on the same intelligence, from the Intelligence community (note: NOT from "Bush!" ;-) when she said: “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical- and biological-weapons stock, his missile-delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaeda members.” So yes, now she wants to go back and revise history, and try to call Bush a "liar" ;-) But sorry, Hillary and the Drive-by media do not have the power they had in the past, when they were the only, liberal, game in town. We now have the alternate media, the blogs, talk radio and Fox News to expose their deceit and lies! Yes, of course angela, Hillary tried to weasel out of her responsibility for voting for the liberation of Iraq. But she relied on the same intelligence, from the Intelligence community (note: NOT from “Bush!” ;-) when she said:

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical- and biological-weapons stock, his missile-delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaeda members.”

So yes, now she wants to go back and revise history, and try to call Bush a “liar” ;-) But sorry, Hillary and the Drive-by media do not have the power they had in the past, when they were the only, liberal, game in town. We now have the alternate media, the blogs, talk radio and Fox News to expose their deceit and lies!

]]> By: angela http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/scholastic-911/comment-page-3/#comment-848754 angela Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:44:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/scholastic-911/#comment-848754 PTS- It's 2006. Why don't you reference quotes from Hilary and Bill from 2006? You need to read more current facts. Here is a Clinton quote from this year, "I'm sick and tired of being told that if you voted for authorization you voted for the war. It was a mistake, and I would have made it, too... The administration did not shoot straight on the nuclear issue or on Saddam's supposed ties to Al Qaeda prior to 9/11." If you want to base your opinion on old quotes, I've got one for you from Geoege W. Bush, refering to Milosevic's loss in Yugoslavia and whether the US should get involved and take him out, Bush said, "...I wouldn't use force. I wouldn't use force. Because it's not in our national interest to use force. I would keep pressure. I would use diplomacy. And it's up to the people in this region to figure out how to take control of their country. " In reference to when the US SHOULD use force in the world Bush said,"Whether or not the mission was clear, whether or not it was a clear understanding as to what the mission would be. Whether or not we were prepared and trained to win, whether or not our forces were of high morale and high standing and well-equipped. And finally, whether or not there was an exit strategy," " I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders. I believe the role of the military is to fight and win war and, therefore, prevent war from happening in the first place." "...if we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road." A quote from Hilary from last November, "I voted for the resolution to authorize the Administration to use force in Iraq. I voted for it on the basis of the evidence presented by the Administration, assurances they gave that they would first seek to resolve the issue of weapons of mass destruction peacefully through UN sponsored inspections, and the argument that the resolution was needed because Saddam Hussein never did anything to comply with his obligations that he was not forced to do...Based on the information that we have today, Congress never would have been asked to give the President authority to use force against Iraq. " "...we never would have agreed, given the lack of a long-term plan, paltry international support, the proven absence of weapons of mass destruction, and the reallovation of troops and resources that might hve been used in Afghanistan to eliminate Bin Laden and al Qaeda, and uproot the Taliban." And so PTS, update your references. That would be the logical thing to do. Information may change over time. After all, Reagan was once a democrat, but I wouldn't use that word to describe him now. Would you? Laura Bush too! PTS- It’s 2006. Why don’t you reference quotes from Hilary and Bill from 2006? You need to read more current facts. Here is a Clinton quote from this year, “I’m sick and tired of being told that if you voted for authorization you voted for the war. It was a mistake, and I would have made it, too… The administration did not shoot straight on the nuclear issue or on Saddam’s supposed ties to Al Qaeda prior to 9/11.”
If you want to base your opinion on old quotes, I’ve got one for you from Geoege W. Bush, refering to Milosevic’s loss in Yugoslavia and whether the US should get involved and take him out, Bush said, “…I wouldn’t use force. I wouldn’t use force. Because it’s not in our national interest to use force. I would keep pressure. I would use diplomacy. And it’s up to the people in this region to figure out how to take control of their country. ” In reference to when the US SHOULD use force in the world Bush said,”Whether or not the mission was clear, whether or not it was a clear understanding as to what the mission would be. Whether or not we were prepared and trained to win, whether or not our forces were of high morale and high standing and well-equipped. And finally, whether or not there was an exit strategy,” ” I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders. I believe the role of the military is to fight and win war and, therefore, prevent war from happening in the first place.” “…if we don’t stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we’re going to have a serious problem coming down the road.”
A quote from Hilary from last November, “I voted for the resolution to authorize the Administration to use force in Iraq. I voted for it on the basis of the evidence presented by the Administration, assurances they gave that they would first seek to resolve the issue of weapons of mass destruction peacefully through UN sponsored inspections, and the argument that the resolution was needed because Saddam Hussein never did anything to comply with his obligations that he was not forced to do…Based on the information that we have today, Congress never would have been asked to give the President authority to use force against Iraq. ” “…we never would have agreed, given the lack of a long-term plan, paltry international support, the proven absence of weapons of mass destruction, and the reallovation of troops and resources that might hve been used in Afghanistan to eliminate Bin Laden and al Qaeda, and uproot the Taliban.” And so PTS, update your references. That would be the logical thing to do. Information may change over time. After all, Reagan was once a democrat, but I wouldn’t use that word to describe him now. Would you? Laura Bush too!

]]> By: PeaceThroughStrength http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/scholastic-911/comment-page-3/#comment-842860 PeaceThroughStrength Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:22:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/scholastic-911/#comment-842860 So why can't you answer a simple, logical question then, angela? So you disagree with Bill and Hillary Clinton on the WMD issue then? Bill Clinton > December 17, 1998 “Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors." "If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." -- Bill Clinton, February 17th, 1998 Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002 "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical- and biological-weapons stock, his missile-delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaeda members.” So why can’t you answer a simple, logical question then, angela?

So you disagree with Bill and Hillary Clinton on the WMD issue then?

Bill Clinton > December 17, 1998 “Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.”

“If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.” — Bill Clinton, February 17th, 1998

Hillary Clinton > October 10, 2002 “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical- and biological-weapons stock, his missile-delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al-Qaeda members.”

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