BREAKING: Albright and Berger Call On ABC To ‘Withdraw’ Path to 9/11
BREAKING: Albright and Berger Call On ABC To ‘Withdraw’ Path to 9/11
Think Progress has obtained a new letter from former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and former National Security Adviser Samuel Berger. The letter calls on Thomas Kean, 9/11 Commission Chairman and co-executive producer of Path to 9/11, to exert his “influence to persuade ABC to withdraw the broadcast.” Read the letter HERE.
An excerpt:
Whether your broadcast purports to be based on the 9/11 Report in whole - or only in part - is increasingly beside the point. The dramatic impact of a costly but carelessly produced film will invariably overwhelm the impression of any government document.
Amidst alarming reports that irresponsible theories about the events of 9/11 have begun to gain currency with the American people, you should not want to lend your personal reputation to a production which seems likely to instigate new and dangerous falsehoods. And so we ask that you use your influence to persuade ABC to withdraw the broadcast altogether. Failing that, we urge you to sever your relationship with this grossly misleading production.
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Why doesn’t Sandy just go to ABC’s Corporate headquarters and then sneak the movie out in his pants and destroy it like he did with those classified counter-terrorism documents???
September 8th, 2006 at 4:36 pmVariety is reporting that ABC is mulling over pulling the plug in light of the enormous backlash. They may decide to air it anyway while factoring in the negative publicity. For ABC (Anathematize Bill Clinton), I’m afraid it’s a win/win situation.
Anyway, in case you missed the first link from early this morning, Paul Krugman is ready to take on all conservative comers who insist that the economy is strong and that anyone who disagrees is a whiner.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:37 pmHate email, smears, intimidation, censorship. What will the Clintonistas do next?
September 8th, 2006 at 4:38 pmThink Progress must really be hitting a nerve to have so many active trolls lately.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:41 pmExley actually that is funny.
Everyone should capitalize on their indivudual strengths.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:42 pmVote on this poll.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:44 pmhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080261/
Vote on this poll.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:45 pm
Glad, damn glad. (Aren’t you glad you used Glad?)
I’m gonna have to say much more is coming, rendition, torture, silencing speech, invoking Stalin’s spirit through the use of black magic, exterminating of millions, you know the typical liberal stuff.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:46 pmWhy doesn’t Emperor Bush just schedule a few “quality” hours with Mr. Gannon so that they both could feel more relaxed?
If we’re lucky, the Emperor will miss is date with a TV camera (you know, the one that’s waiting for him to “address” the nation).
September 8th, 2006 at 4:47 pmJust as the right does regularly with children’s books, movies like F 9/11, Dan Rather, CBS’s biopic of Reagan, we too can use our political muscle to achieve goals we regard as important. It’s important to stop companies like Disney from trying to rewrite history, especially as a way of honoring a solemn day like 9/11. Why Disney didn’t put something together that was not political is beyond me. Disney has only itself to blame for this fiasco.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:48 pmcnn also asks:
“Should filmmakers use fictionalized scenes to dramatize the events leading up to the September 11 attacks?”
vote now!
September 8th, 2006 at 4:49 pm[at the lower right of the front page]
“The death of one TV show is a tragedy, the death of a million TV shows is a statistic.”
-Joseph Stalin.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:50 pmI have call the FCC Political Campaign division (202) 418-1440
I have registered a complaint, charging ABC with broadcasting a clearly partisan piece with numerous deliberate factual distortions, and their refusal to give the opposing view equal time to rebut these scurrilous lies.
Any attorneys out there want to offer some suggestions? I want to file an actual lawsuit. Thank you in advance
September 8th, 2006 at 4:50 pmAmazing how many conservatives confuse protest with
September 8th, 2006 at 4:52 pmcensorship. If one did not know they were stupid, one might think they were being mendacious.
Wow that msnbc poll is interesting. So 37% believe in a conspiracy, 15% arent sure, 48% think its rediculous. So 52% or half, are of the mind to question the event. Thats significant.
Note to Government: (Especially the Rummys and Stevens’ types, Byrd too)
With the new technology involving the internet, e-mail, camera’s, phones, sat phones, etc. False Flag operations are not as easy to pull off as they used to be. Historically it took a full generation for people to question a major event as a conspiracy, now it took 5 years. However, you may be aquainted with the pitchfork and torch technology.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:58 pmWho’s lying to whom? No basis for the charge that the Clintonista’s dropped the ball and allowed Ossama to live? Nonsense. But who cares anyway? So what if a bunch of leftwing fucwits beat up on another bunch of leftwingfucwits? In fact, I’d love nothing more than to see ABC get their license revoked as the Clintonista’s have threatened.
Dear Lord, save our country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTqZg-uOHVY
September 8th, 2006 at 4:58 pmI was thinking the same thing Buckley.
September 8th, 2006 at 4:59 pmAny attorneys out there want to offer some suggestions? I want to file an actual lawsuit. Thank you in advance
Comment by Joseph Meler
Blow it out your a s s Joe.
September 8th, 2006 at 5:00 pm#14 - censorship.
It’s amazing how many conservatives confuse their wishful thinking with reality.
September 8th, 2006 at 5:01 pm#14 - should have read (mis-edit) Amazing how many conservatives confuse protest with censorship.
It’s amazing how many conservatives confuse their wishful thinking with reality.
September 8th, 2006 at 5:06 pmWe’ve done a good job, and by all means keep up the pressure.
I sincerely hope that this will carry over into important issues once this is pulled off the air. Sure, we’ve had 60,000+ people writing emails and such, but how many of those people have, say, wirtten their congrescritter about warrantless wiretapping? Or war profiteering?
Can we PLEASE carry this momentum through this ABC thing and on into other issues as well? It’s the only way we’re going to get our country back.
September 8th, 2006 at 5:07 pmWell, let’s just see if ABC and Disney pay attention. This travesty of a movie should not be pushed on the public as the “real” rememberance of the horrid events.
September 8th, 2006 at 5:07 pmIRI,
Hello, long time no see. Unbelievable will be working with you later on. She said you are actually a regular person, and like to stir up the crap here on TP. Oh and blow it our your ass too!
Have a nice day.
September 8th, 2006 at 5:09 pm#18 the Fairness Doctrine was a casualty of the Raygun administration.
the “Equal Time Amendment” was “collateral damage” to that demise.
September 8th, 2006 at 5:09 pmActually it is in bad taste to make a fictional peice about the events of 9-11.
September 8th, 2006 at 5:12 pmKnowing the corporate culture of Hollywood and Disney in particular as I do, I don’t see any way that Disney/ABC yanks the show and swallows $40 million in production costs and gets nothing in return. Let them get creative and make a new ride at Disneyland based on the film - - you wait in line for an hour and then get told the ride needs “reworking.”
September 8th, 2006 at 5:17 pm#23 “For Truth”,
Do you mean “regular” as in does NOT need ExLax
September 8th, 2006 at 5:18 pmto blow it out?
Amidst alarming reports that irresponsible theories about the events of 9/11 have begun to gain currency with the American people, you should not want to lend your personal reputation to a production which seems likely to instigate new and dangerous falsehoods.
Doesn’t sound like Madeleine Albright thinks 9/11 was a conspiracy either. I’m not the only liberal…
September 8th, 2006 at 5:20 pmSo they can pull the “Ronald Reagan” TV movie, but not this one? I’ve signed about ten different petitions to ABC and sent many emails protesting this show putting the blame on Clinton, et al. They are such hypocrites it’s painful. Painful to me. There are too many people that don’t tune into the news and if they see this movie as indicated, they will believe it. It’s not right and I hope there is a law suit but the offended parties (Clinton, Albright and Berger). Heck make it an American people law suit. Let’s all sue ABC!
September 8th, 2006 at 5:20 pm#26 Badmoodman,
I don’t know if you are kidding, but they “say”
September 8th, 2006 at 5:21 pmit will be comercial free so they write-off the
$30-40 Meg either way.
That fact alone REALLY makes me wonder what
the dark side had going on this one.
There really is a ride at Disneyland “Roger Rabbit’s Cartoon Spin”. If you look at the list of rides, there is a gold mine of potential political jokes there.
September 8th, 2006 at 5:23 pmHey Disney here’s the ’speaks volumes’ exchange that will allow you to produce a factual Path to 911
BEN-VENISTE: Isn’t it a fact, Dr. Rice, that the August 6 PDB warned against possible attacks in this country? And I ask you whether you recall the title of that PDB?
RICE: I believe the title was, “Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States.”
Now, the…
BEN-VENISTE: Thank you.
September 8th, 2006 at 5:57 pmtest
September 8th, 2006 at 6:01 pm…I don’t see any way that Disney/ABC yanks the show and swallows $40 million in production costs and gets nothing in return.
Comment by Badmoodman — September 8, 2006 @ 5:17 pm
i’m sure the reichwingnuts will gladly pay to have their own copy of this fictional partisan crock-u-drama…
September 8th, 2006 at 6:01 pmthat’s where it needs to go - straight to dvd…
As if to add further insult, this is the lineup for Russert’s Meet the Press on Sunday:
DICK CHENEY
Vice President of the United States
Darth Cheney will be the sole guest for the hour - he will have 60 minutes to lie “if you will” and further disinform the public.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:04 pmIt will be effective to call ABC directly and voice your complaints:
(818) 460-7477
or submit your complaint via regular mail to:
ABC, Inc.
500 S. Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521-4551
Suggested comments:
I will support the move to have licenses removed for
every station that broadcasts this propaganda.
I will boycott ABC, Disney, and all their sponsors.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:09 pmSenator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) comments on Vice President Dick Cheney,
“I don’t take anything he says seriously anymore”
Yes, about 70% of America agrees with you so no problem allowing this lying deluded POS to make an evven bigger fool of himself spewing more self serving bullshit.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:12 pmCheney is in his last throes.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:13 pmI have an honest question on which I would appreciate some honest comments. I realize I am opening up myself to the mercy of the trolls but I don’t pay the fools any nevermind anyway. My political activism is generally limited to TP on the web and the myriad of other Democratic and liberal groups that send their E-mail so I am not “Fair and Balanced” in terms of a true variety of news sources. Accordingly, my question is this: Is the outrage shown on TP about the ABC/Bushco Film-Flam limited to liberal blogs or has the controversy reached the media (other than ABC)? If it is universal, can anyone give me an idea as to the degree of concern to the general public?
Thanks, Clyde.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:15 pmHey Clyde,
It’s the number one story on cnn.com right now, and cnn had it yesterday as the 3rd or 4th story.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:18 pmDaily Kos is asking who funded this propaganda project?
Christian organization Youth With A Mission (YWAM), through their auxiliary - The Film Institute (TFI). Loren Cunningham, the founder of YWAM, is the father of PT911 director David Cunningham.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:22 pmLet’s make our voices heard and see if we can get these guys to pull this blatantly obvious Bush propaganda. ABC may profit from the predictable controversy but airing a film designed to obfuscate Bush’s responsibility for 9/11 will cause ABC to suffer greatly in the estimation of serious people.
Disney and ABC should leave the RNC propaganda to Fox, it’s not ABC’s demographic.
Robert Iger - CEO - robert.a.iger@disney.com
Rich Ross - President of Disney Channel Worldwide - rich.ross@disney.com
Sean Cocchia - VP/Business Development, Disney Channel Worldwide- sean.cocchia@disney.com
Gary Marsh - Disney Channel Worldwide President of Entertainment - gary.marsh@disney.com
Sarah Shelton - Assistant to Gary Marshsarah - shelton@disney.com
Scott Garner - SVP/Programming, Disney Channel - scott.garner@disney.com
Karen Myer - Assistant to Scott Garner - karen.myer@disney.com
Meredith Metz - Senior Vice President, Creative Affairs, Walt Disney Television Animation - meredith.metz@disney.com
Lisa Salamone - The Head of Animation Production, Disney Channel - lisa.salamone@disney.com
Joanna Spak - The Head of Finance, Planning, etc., Disney Channel - joanna.spak@disney.com
Mark Kenchelian - The Head of Business and Legal Affairs, Disney Channel -mark.kenchelian@disney.com
Jewell Engstrom - CFO and Executive VP for Disney-ABC Cable Group - jewell.engstrom@disney.com
Olivia Stafford - Assistant to Jewell Engstrom - olivia.stafford@disney.com
Albert Cheng - EVP/Digital Media, Disney-ABC Television Group - albert.cheng@disney.com
Karen Hobson - Digital Media Communications Office, Disney-ABC Television Group - karen.hobson@disney.com
George Bodenheimer - Co-Chairman Media Networks Group - george.bodenheimer@disney.com
Nicole Nichols - Senior VP of Entertainment Communications, Disney-ABC Television Group - nicole.nichols@disney.com
Aime Wolfe - Assistant to Nicole Nichols - aime.wolfe@disney.com
Patti McTeague - VP of Kids Communications - patti.mcteague@disney.com
Siobhan Kenny - Acting Head of International Communications - siobhan.kenny@disney.com
Paul Lee - ABC Family Channel - paul.lee@disney.com
Annie Fort - ABC Family Media Relations - annie.fort@disney.com
Alex Wallau - President of Network Operations & Administration - alex.wallau@disney.com
David Westin - ABC News President - david.westin@disney.com
Mike Shaw - ABC Sales and Marketing President - mike.shaw@disney.com
Fred Kuperberg - Disney/ABC Executive VP of Business and Legal Affairs - fred.kuperberg@disney.com
Kara Rousseau - VP of Ad Sales Marketing for Disney/ABC Kids Networks - kara.rousseau@disney.com
Kim Harbin - Buena Vista Media Relations - kim.harbin@disney.com
Anne Gates - Disney Consumer Products Executive VP & CFO - anne.gates@disney.com
James Fielding - Senior VP, Retail Sales and Marketing for DCP - james.fielding@disney.com
Angela Emery - Director of Public Relations, Buena Vista Games - angela.emery@disney.com
Chris Bess - Buena Vista Home Entertainment - chris.bess@disney.com
Peter Murphy - Senior Adviser to Mr. Iger - peter.murphy@disney.com
Judy Estrin - Board of Directors - jestrin@packetdesign.com
John Bryson - Board of Directors - john.bryson@edisonintl.com
Monica Lozano - Board of Directors - monica.lozano@laopinion.com
John Chen - Board of Directors - john.chen@sybase.com
Gary Wilson - Board of Directors - gary.wilson@nwa.com
Leo Odonova - Board of Directors - leo.odonovan@mbna.com
Thomas Staggs - CFO/Senior V.P. - tom.staggs@disney.com
September 8th, 2006 at 6:28 pmOpen note to Judd and TP…….Right now we have all but one thread dealing with this docu-dumb shit…..
Most of us have written ton’s of emails to get it chucked and are still doing that.
Before you sign off for the week end may I suggest that you put on some thread’s to the other main issues going on with this dreadful administration..
Like what’s going on with our econemy, the house and senate and diffrent races in all the states….Something else Please and maybe throw in an open thread that we can all throw our interesting new’s event’s back at Ya. Pretty please…..Our country is not a one issue country no matter how much bush and company would like it to be……Blessings…..Peace, democtat’s try to be all inclusive except for terrorest’s spewing troll’s…
September 8th, 2006 at 6:28 pmmarie - TP put up a link to digby on the 6th about that… surely it’s been updated… this is the original:
Disney and The Dobsonites
nothing surprises me anymore…
September 8th, 2006 at 6:30 pmHalfbright and Burglar are caught lying in their letter using selective excerpts from the 911 Report.
Fabrication: The Clinton Administration was reluctant to kill OBL.
From the report, in context…
Policymakers in the Clinton administration, including the President and hisnational security advisor, told us that the President’s intent regarding covert action against Bin Ladin was clear: he wanted him dead. This intent was never well communicated or understood within the CIA.
If Clinton was so intent on killing OBL, why didn’t he make this clear?
Tenet told the Commission that except in one specific case (discussed later), the CIA was authorized to kill Bin Ladin only in the context of a capture operation. CIA senior managers,operators, and lawyers confirmed this understanding.“We always talked about how much easier it would have been to kill him,†a former chief of the Bin Ladin unit said.
There was a lot of hand-wringing and reluctance among Clinton’s staff which resulted in no action. Chapter 4 of the 911 report is very clear about their inaction.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:30 pmOh mr.bush….you and your gang are not condeming the vid are you…COWARD…..but then you can condem it at half time when you give your speech…right…”We interupt this lie for the greatest lier of all time”…
September 8th, 2006 at 6:31 pmWhen you wish upon a swastika,
Makes no difference which member of the Bush war crime family you are…
Cheers
September 8th, 2006 at 6:33 pmThanks, For Truth
I was hoping we were not just disseminating to the disciples (Preaching to the Choir) and that there was a true public “ground swell,” of discussion. The greater the public controversy the greater, in my opinion, is the advantage to the good guys as the propaganda value changes sides. It is really meaningless now whether it is shown or not because it will be taken in a more proper light as the Film-Flam it really is. More comments are welcome too! I don’t mind being the choir.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:38 pmIntent on killing OBL? Not really.
More ambiguity and the famous Clinton response “I don’t recall”
In February 1999,another draft Memorandum of Notification went to President Clinton. It asked him to allow the CIA to give exactly the same guidance to the Northern Alliance as had just been given to the tribals: they could kill Bin Ladin if a successful capture operation was not feasible. On this occasion, however, President Clinton crossed out key language he had approved in December and inserted more ambiguous language. No one we interviewed could shed light on why the President did this. President Clinton told the Commission that he had no recollection of why he rewrote the language.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:38 pmHow about gunning down OBL with a AC-130? Gen “limp-wrist” Zinni blocked the idea and it never happened. Of course, Zinni “doesn’t recall”.
More hand-wringing and indecision…
Though Berger and Clarke continued to indicate interest in this option, the
September 8th, 2006 at 6:47 pmAC-130s were never deployed. Clarke wrote at the time that Zinni opposed their use, and John Maher, the Joint Staff ’s deputy director of operations, agreed that this was Zinni’s position. Zinni himself does not recall blocking the option. He told us that he understood the Special Operations Command had never thought the intelligence good enough to justify actually moving AC-130s into position. Schoomaker says, on the contrary, that he thought the AC-130 option feasible.
These idiot republicans are actually arguing it’s Clinton’s fault, as if they can somehow make massive stupidity a credible argument. Look, Bush is such a major F^*kup he allowed 9-11 to happen. Now I’m sorry if your tiny fascist brains can’t fathom your dear leader to fail so miserably, I mean given the chickens*@t tough guy war talk but those are the facts. But you will never convince the people in this country that Bush and the republofascists are anything more than chickens*@t war criminals, and the rest of the world, you know the majority of the people on the planet, agree.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:48 pmAds have been pulled from ABC.go.com
September 8th, 2006 at 6:52 pmCall ABC directly and voice your complaints:
(818) 460-7477
or submit your complaint via regular mail to:
ABC, Inc.
500 S. Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521-4551
Suggested comments:
I will support the move to have licenses removed for
every station that broadcasts this propaganda.
I will boycott ABC, Disney, and all their sponsors.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:53 pmClinton was indeed reluctant to kill OBL, Ms Halfbright and Mr Burglar.
And the last chance to kill OBL came and went. Who told the CIA to stand down? The Burglar?
It was in Kandahar that perhaps the last, and most likely the best, opportunity arose for targeting Bin Ladin with cruise missiles before 9/11. In May 1999, CIA assets in Afghanistan reported on Bin Ladin’s location in and around Kandahar over the course of five days and nights. The reporting was very detailed and came from several sources. If this intelligence was not “actionable,†working-level officials said at the time and today, it was hard for them to imagine how any intelligence on Bin Ladin in Afghanistan would meet the standard. Communications were good, and the cruise missiles were ready. “This was in our strike zone,†a senior military officer said. “It was a fat pitch, a home run.†He expected the missiles to fly. When the decision came back that they should stand down, not shoot, the officer said,“we all just slumped.†He told us he knew of no one at the Pentagon or the CIA who thought it was a bad gamble. Bin Ladin “should have been a dead man†that night, he said.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:56 pm“I think there’s a revolt coming from grassroots America. I think they’re tired of being deceived.”
- General Wes Clark
Yes indeed these Bushco lying sacks of shit are going down !!!
September 8th, 2006 at 6:58 pm#21
We’ve done a good job, and by all means keep up the pressure.
I sincerely hope that this will carry over into important issues once this is pulled off the air. Sure, we’ve had 60,000+ people writing emails and such, but how many of those people have, say, wirtten their congrescritter about warrantless wiretapping? Or war profiteering?
Can we PLEASE carry this momentum through this ABC thing and on into other issues as well? It’s the only way we’re going to get our country back.
If leftists are able to threaten ABC into censorship of this movie, the first amendment means nothing. This is truly scary! If this kind of hysterical tactic is allowed to work, nothing will be off limits in the future. Our democracy is doomed. We will be allowed to see only what leftist want us to see.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:59 pmHeard the writer on radio today and he stated what has been previewed so far and gained the reaction is the first nights episode and the Monday night episode apparently goes into the Bush failures during the 9 mos of 2001, he said it does not paint a flattering portrait either.
I didn’t approve of having Reagan’s movie yanked, and I don’t like the efforts against ABC/Disney. Both members of the Reagan admin and the Clinton admin have ample resources to dispute what was written or portrayed……I think this is the proverbial slippery slope when you start threatening legislative action against an Entertainment company that comes before you for licensing.
The other part that saddens me is people taking media produced history and believing it without doing your own fact checking, be that on either side of the political spectrum.
richb
September 8th, 2006 at 7:01 pmIt is no mystery that this production is propaganda designed to rewrite historical fact and direct peoples attention away, from perhaps the biggest historical reality to hit this country in it’s history.That the Presidency has willingly and knowingly been the advocate and accomplice of capital crimes against Americans and other nations in persuit to exploit and aquire resources and financial gains for a select few.
The idea of conspiracy is so hard for most Americans to wrap their brains around, seen as something that occurs in other places in the world and yet here we are years into a very organized attack against America itself from within…look at what Mexicao is now going through and watch as that country suffers the same corporate acts against the people and the government there.
At every point this Administration should be resisted and finally held accountable under the laws of this land.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:01 pmHate email, smears, intimidation, censorship. What will the Clintonistas do next?
Comment by Glad, damn glad — September 8, 2006 @ 4:38 pm
Sounds more like something the right wing Christo/Facsist would do. The Cheney/Bush cabal don’t want to own up to the fact that 9/11 happened on their watch. It really doesn’t matter what happened during the Clinton administration. Clinton warned frat boy Bush about Osama wanting to attack the US and it was frat boy Bush that received the memo on August 6, 2001 stating that AlQeada was planning an attack and if frat boy Bush had taken action and followed through, 9/11 would be nothing more than just another date on a calendar. So stop trying to twist the facts. But then again, your kind never lets facts get in the way of your Nazi propaganda.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:01 pm#55 I think you are probably correct, but I don’t think the blogosphere is as influential as what people live day to day.
People vote on what there little slice of America is like. I don’t discount blogs at all, I rather enjoy them….but nearly universally people I talk to from all walks either have never heard of Blogs, even the more famous ones or think Blogs are just partisan on either side of the political scene.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:05 pmBoycott ABC and Disney. It’s always money talks and if their viewership goes down, so do their commerical revenues.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:07 pmI thought democrats are screaming for ABC to show the ” truth” of 9/11…THEN WHY do they support the 9/11 white wash commission???
9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, AND HALF THE FAMILIES AND A THIRD OF AMERICA THINKS SO TOO!
September 8th, 2006 at 7:07 pmDarth Cheney will be the sole guest for the hour - he will have 60 minutes to lie “if you will†and further disinform the public.
Okay - so we boycott 60 Minutes also.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:09 pmI continue to be amazed at the number of people on both sides of the political aisle who are making their minds up about The Path to 9/11 without seeing the movie. Instead, those on the right and left are reading talking points from the RNC and DNC and accepting those points of view as “gospel.”
The proper way to go about this is to view the film and then have debate afterwards regarding its legitimacy. Believe me, if the movie is one big fabrication then the ones who will suffer will be the Republicans. People don’t like being deliberately lied to.
(Remember the backlash from the Farenheit 911 fabrications on the Democrats in the 2004 elections?)
September 8th, 2006 at 7:12 pmOK. Once more, with emphasis.
Interestingly enough, Saddam considered al-Qaida a threat, not a friend. Isn’t this a little different than what Emperor Bush and his Cabal of Rabid NeoKons have been saying?
[from: news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060908/ap_on_go_co/iraq_report ]
Saddam Hussein regarded al-Qaida as a threat rather than a possible ally, a Senate report says, contradicting assertions
President Bush has used to build support for the war in
Iraq.
Released Friday, the report discloses for the first time an October 2005
CIA assessment that before the war, Saddam’s government “did not have a relationship, harbor or turn a blind eye toward” al-Qaida operative Abu Musab al-Zarqawi or his associates…
Can we now have the Emperor and his Court arrested, tried, and jailed for treason? Isn’t it beyond time that the Bush Crime Family paid for their greed and deception?
September 8th, 2006 at 7:14 pmI can’t believe folks are accepting the RNC or DNC talking points BEFORE viewing the film. Isn’t anyone able to make up their own minds anymore?
If this film is nothing but fabrications, it will backlash on the Republicans. Much like Farenheit 911 backlashed on the Democrats in 2004. People don’t like being lied to.
The best thing for the DNC is to let the movie air, and then publically debate the errors afterwards. That’ll kill the GOP.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:15 pmMeanwhile, the conservative groups are planning to flood the FCC with complaints if CBS airs a documentary (no fiction, real footage) of 911 that has ALREADY aired before if they keep the swear words in.
In other words, if a fireman, responding to the horror, said an off color word, they’re telling CBS that it has to be edited, or they will protest.
Tell me honestly, which action is really censorship??
September 8th, 2006 at 7:31 pmIn February 1999, Allen proposed flying a U-2 mission over Afghanistan to build a baseline of intelligence outside the areas where the tribals had coverage. Clarke was nervous about such a mission because he continued to fear that Bin Ladin might leave for someplace less accessible. He wrote Deputy National Security Advisor Donald Kerrick that one reliable source reported Bin Ladin’s having met with Iraqi officials, who “may have offered him asylum.†Other intelligence sources said that some Taliban leaders, though not Mullah Omar, had urged Bin Ladin to go to Iraq. If Bin Ladin actually moved to Iraq, wrote Clarke, his network would be at Saddam Hussein’s service, and it would be “virtually impossible†to find him. Better to get Bin Ladin in Afghanistan, Clarke declared. Berger suggested sending one U-2 flight,but Clarke opposed even this. It would require Pakistani approval, he wrote; and “Pak[istan’s] intel[ligence service] is in bed with†Bin Ladin and would warn him that the United States was getting ready for a bombing campaign: “Armed with that knowledge, old wily Usama will likely boogie to Baghdad.†Though told also by Bruce Riedel of the NSC staff that Saddam Hussein wanted Bin Ladin in Baghdad, Berger conditionally authorized a single U-2 flight. Allen meanwhile had found other ways of getting the information he wanted. So the U-2 flight never occurred.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:50 pm#56
If leftists are able to threaten ABC into censorship of this movie, the first amendment means nothing. This is truly scary! If this kind of hysterical tactic is allowed to work, nothing will be off limits in the future. Our democracy is doomed. We will be allowed to see only what leftist want us to see.
The first amendment and many others have already been reduced to almost nothing by the right and the lame lefts that went along with it. As it is, we only see what 3 or so parent companies deem is ‘good for the viewing public’. THis is the future and nothign is off limits. Therefore, i see nothing wrong with the PEOPLE having a say.
If you’re not on the side of the American people, then you, my friend, are a terrorists. I got your ‘with us or against us’ right here. Go wait by the fax machine for your next set of talking points to counter the free thought and will of the non-scum citizens.
September 8th, 2006 at 8:08 pmRobert A. Iger should be applauded for his courage. The vailed threats and innuendos in the letter from Mr. Reid and other Democratics are disgusting and indicative of their continued disrespect for the American people’s ability to make up their own minds regardless of the shadows cast on those portrayed in “Path to 9/11″. Mr. Tetsuro makes his point very well and should be heeded. “The Reagans” was pulled, but shown later on Showtime and Fehrenheit 911 was broadcast (talk about lies and misrepresentations), so let this series roll and give Mr. Iger the Medal of Honor.
September 8th, 2006 at 8:58 pmSimple facts under Clinton:
–1992 American marines killed in Yeman by Osama Bin Laden, no response
–1993 1st bombing of WTC, no response
–1996 Khobar Towers, no reponse
–1998 Bombings of American Ebassies in Kenya and Tanzania, no response
–2000 Attack on USS Cole, big investigation, no response
After all of these attacks, the Clinton administration failed to bring Bin Laden to justice, even when he was offered up on a platter in 1996 by the Sudanese government. I contend the Clinton Administration practice of appeasement increased the threat of terror to the United States, leading to the attacks on 9/11.
September 8th, 2006 at 9:50 pmABC should not cave under the pressure from the Democratic party and Bill Clinton’s staff. The American public has the right to see the movie in it’s original form, not censored by a political party.
And for all of you that will assume that I am a right winger, I am just as interested in night 2 when the movie shifts it’s focus on the Bush Administration.
[…] The frenzy over the ABC TV movie extravaganza cannot possibly get hotter—with Madeleine Albright and Sandy Berger now applying considerable pressure on Tom Kean by suggesting that his endorsement of the movie endangers the credibility of the sacred 9/11 Commission (of which he was a member). The dramatic impact of a costly but carelessly produced film will invariably overwhelm the impression of any government document. […]
September 8th, 2006 at 10:10 pm#72, dissent is not censorship. “No war for Monica” is a republican mantra. I can understand your confusion with understanding The Path to 9-11 is not factual since your gods at the Christo-fascist republican party have told you it is, and you have no actual mind of your own.
September 8th, 2006 at 10:24 pmYou know I find it difficult to believe people like Tony above pretend to argue in good conscience, when the whole basis of the “docudrama” is taking REAL people and showing them doing things, things that cost other people’s lives, things they NEVER did. It’s slander. It’s RUINING someone else’s reputation. And when you lie about it to the general public and say “It’s factual” when you know damn well it’s not, I find it difficult to understand the “relativistic ethics” people like Tony have that say, well just because it’s a lie, slanders good people and sullies their reputations , well I believe that it should be shown anyway. You can’t show a “reality” TV show that names famous people and in essense call them murderers, no you can’t.
September 8th, 2006 at 10:33 pmPresident Clinton handled terrorists attacks poorly. He should have done more to protect our great country. He may not have not been able to prevent 911, but he should have taken a firmer approach against acts of terrorism and those behind such actions.
September 9th, 2006 at 2:23 amIrony… yes, even if there is a glimmer of truth that the Monica distracted the government from doing it’s job, is that the Democrats or the Republicans fault? one moment in a back room vers. millions of dollars spent on bullshite when there’s really more important things to worry about? who ya gonna blame?
September 9th, 2006 at 3:39 amI would like to add… that that “moment in the back room” that may or may not have consisted of a “blow job” didn’t cost me a red cent… unlike the other well financed blow jobs given to this administration that are costing my kids a bundle.
September 9th, 2006 at 4:07 am# PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON developed the nation’s first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator of anti-terrorist efforts.
September 9th, 2006 at 7:07 am# Bill Clinton stopped cold the Al Qaeda millennium hijacking and bombing plots.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to kill the Pope.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
# Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
# Bill Clinton brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.
# Bill Clinton did not blame the Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively — and successfully — to stop future terrorist attacks.
# Bill Clinton named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to tighten airport security. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to allow for better tracking of terrorist funding. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for better tracking of explosives used by terrorists. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.
# Bill Clinton increased the military budget by an average of 14 per cent, reversing the trend under Bush I.
# Bill Clinton tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.
# Bill Clinton detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries.
# Bill Clinton created national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
# Of Clinton’s efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: “Overall, I give them very high marks” and “The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama”.
# Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Bill Clinton Administration had “correctly focused on bin Laden.
# Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, “By any measure available, Bill Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him” and was the “first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort”.
#80, Perry that’s the point. Fascists know what the “facts” are but those facts get in the way of their “propoganda”. So they LIE and distort. When confronted with “facts” they will smear the person arguing as a traitor, insane, a troublemaker, etc. Nazi playbook.
September 9th, 2006 at 7:37 amSue Welch, get Bush’s d**k out of your mouth
In Rememberance, the only thing you really want to remember is all the Bush/GOP/criminal lies.
September 9th, 2006 at 9:18 amPerry Logan, ….Great post…ThanK you for putting it up for all to see…..Blessings
September 9th, 2006 at 10:00 amTony Liegel
You have just exposed yourself as a liar by your second example. I don’t have to discredit the rest, because one lie is enough.
1993 attacks; Bill Clinton and the CIA hunted down and captured ALL of the terrorists involved. Bin Laden was only a peripheral figure in that WTC bombing.
I would not call that “no response.”
September 10th, 2006 at 4:16 amComrades Bravo!
These traitors at ABC are betrayers of our new mother land. Where I come from, this Robert A. Iger would be dragged through the streets in front of the tomb of our glorious leader Vladimir Lenin and shot in public. The producers, directors, writers and anyone associated with this propaganda would be picked up in the early hours of the morning by our State Security Chief Lavrenty Beria (The Black Hand) and taken to a Siberian labor camp never too be heard from again.
For many years I have been loyal to ABC and the Pravda (truth) that our Socialist Liberal ally has put forth in order to progress our ultimate goal; the decline and absolute destruction of America and the capitalist traitorous pig’s like ABC.
I ask you Mr. Robert A. Iger, “Have you no shame Sir�
Comrades, we must not give up the fight. It has taken us many years to groom you and your elected leaders.
Remember what our great leader Nikita Khrushchev said:
“ We can’t expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism ”
It’s more important now then ever before that we stand together and stay focused! We can not allow this abomination of propaganda to go forward.
We must do whatever it takes to keep this film from airing on Sunday the 10th, 2006, we only have a few hours left.
It is your duty as loyal Liberal Socialist Democrats to rise up in solidarity and put a stop to this immediately!
Senator Harry Reid, one of our courageous and distinguished Senatorial leaders from the state of Nevada, reminded the capitalist traitorous pigs at ABC of their license from the FCC. Please Senator Reid, we’re your loyal comrades in arms and begging you to use all the glorious power you possess. You must stop this film! You must push forward with an iron fist and crush this despicable display of propaganda.
If this film isn’t stopped from airing on ABC, Sunday night, I’m afraid all our efforts since the cold war and the aspirations of our great leaders from glorious years past and Nikita Khrushchev’s dreams and predictions will have been lost.
If we loose now, the great Liberal Socialist Democratic Party, we have nurtured, will decline into the ash heaps of history never too be heard from again.
You must!…. I repeat, you must contact our comrades in arms at their offices in Washington.
Now I’ve done all the work all you have to do is contact our comrades below by e-mail or call:
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It’s so funny how all you lefties went out and bought into the Michael Moore propaganda and lies with “Fahrenheit 9/11″ but now that someone produces a somewhat less distasteful smear against your hero you’re all freaking out and demanding censorship. You’re a pathetic bunch of hypocrites.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:16 pm