Path to 9/11 Produced By Evangelical Activists Who Sought To ‘Transform Hollywood’
Path to 9/11 Produced By Evangelical Activists Who Sought To ‘Transform Hollywood’
The Path to 9/11 is a movie rife with historical inaccuracies that blames President Clinton while heaping praise on President Bush. The docudrama was written by avowed conservative Cyrus Nowrasteh, who once spoke on a panel entitled: “Rebels With A Cause: How Conservatives Can Lead Hollywood’s Next Paradigm Shift.” But the ideological slant behind this movie goes far deeper than Nowrasteh. Research conducted by a reader at Democratic Underground has revealed that the Path to 9/11 was the result of a project hatched out by a small group of evangelical activists who sought to “transform Hollywood from the inside out.” Here is what we know:
Cunningham Linked To YWAM. David Cunningham was contracted by ABC to direct Path to 9/11. Cunningham is the son of Loren and Darlene Cunningham, the founders of Youth With a Mission (YWAM), a Christian evangelical group that actively tries to get “youth into short-term mission work and to give them opportunities to reach out in Jesus’ name.”
YWAM Sponsored the Film Institute To Change Hollywood. YWAM created an “auxillary” group called the Film Institute, which was explicitly aimed at achieving a “Godly transformation and revolution TO and THROUGH the Film and Television industry.”
Film Institute Began the “Untitled History Project.” The Film Institute’s first project was simply referred to as the “Untitled History Project” (UHP). In July 2005, Fox News reported that filming had begun on an ABC miniseries about 9/11 that ABC officials and producers were referring to it as the “Untitled History Project.” A production company entitled “UHP Productions,” which was co-founded with Disney began filming Path to 9/11 in late 2005.
UHP Became Path to 9/11. UHP Productions has only produced one movie. Harvey Keitel, who stars as FBI special agent John O’Neill in the movie, said that when he received the original script, “it said ABC History Project.”
Tell ABC to tell the truth about 9/11. Max Blumenthal has more.
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I know this is important but Im tired of this ABC thing. Can we discuss other stuff, please?
September 8th, 2006 at 7:21 pmIs it time to take our country back yet?
September 8th, 2006 at 7:21 pmWilliam Goldman said it many years ago and it still is true: “Nobody in Hollywood knows anything.”
September 8th, 2006 at 7:22 pmIt will be extra evangelically wingnutty in on Sunday (at least on Channel 5 in Cleveland), The Path to 9/11 will be preceded by a Franklin Graham show.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:24 pmHow GOP Manipulate Christian “Wackos”
The wackos get their information through the Christian right, Christian radio, mail, the internet and telephone trees.
Bush supporters are a ridiculously and proudly ignorant people whose main attitude can still be summed up by “don’t confuse me with the facts…my mind is made up.”
September 8th, 2006 at 7:25 pmI’ve told Chief and LessChief Executives from Disney on down to my local station about farting this fiction linked to a most tragic event in our nation’s history to the unbathed masses. I used more civil language, but I may drift to the crude if these hypocrites do not change their tune.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:32 pmFox News has gotten in on the fun.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,213040,00.html
Of course, whereas most people see pissing off several foreign countries and possibly killing innocent civilians as too high a price for acting on 1 unreliable source, Bush has shown that he’s willing to do just that; I suppose the opposing arguments make sense to his remaining supporters.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:39 pmJuan,
I know what you mean, but really, we’re taking the right wing and its lies apart at the seams. We’re having too much fun to stop now :)
Overall, it’s been a very bad week for the right wing/GOP, and not just because of ABC.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:40 pmFox News has gotten in on the fun.
Maybe the writer’s a master of irony, and implying we should substitute Bush for Clinton; but it’s Fox News.
Of course, whereas most people see pissing off several foreign countries and possibly killing innocent civilians as too high a price for acting on 1 unreliable source, Bush has shown that he’s willing to do just that; I suppose the opposing arguments make sense to his remaining supporters.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:41 pmThe scariest thing is that people may begin to say things like ‘Oh, well. It was just those Christian fundamentalists trying to upsurp the country again. Nothing to see here.’
What disturbs me is that people who have/had the ability to investigate the truth, say like Thomas Kean, are HELPING and ENCOURAGING these people. That’s a very bad sign of some problems that go deeper than ABC and Disney.
That’s why no matter who comes out from under a rock and says they are ‘appalled’ on Pundit Television, we STILL need to clean sweep this Administration. See all the Republicans and Democrats alike that are running scared and climbing all over themselves to make it clear where they stand on this whole ABC thing? That’s because Americans are exercising their power to dissent. The only true power in this country. They were doing their damnnest to get you to forget and they failed.
Now it’s ‘every thug for himself, elbows and ass holes into the underbrush’, because we’re calling them on their bullshit. Keep the fire under them on ALL issues, and we my yet get this country back from the clutches of evil.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:45 pmJuan: “I know this is important but Im tired of this ABC thing. Can we discuss other stuff, please?” – – Gosh Juan, you mean ‘other stuff’ like the personal banter that you and several women posters engage in ad infinitum, ad nauseum in post after post after post on Think Progress? Stop whining, Juan.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:47 pmJuan, the right wing never get tired of an issue, and to back off now would be wrong.
We must keep looking at this and see who is really behind this stuff, because if you are tired of this you are going to be more tired of a fundi government, which will soon follow if we don’t get this group out of office soon.
September 8th, 2006 at 7:49 pmThis ABC thing may be dragging on, but it’s also refreshing in that people from all over the political spectrum are standing up for a bit of truthfulness and accuracy in reporting. My god, this is what so many of us have been starving for since, well, forever.
September 8th, 2006 at 8:19 pmMeanwhile, don’t forget that christian groups are also busy planning to slam CBS if they air the documentary about 911 and keep the curse words in.
September 8th, 2006 at 8:20 pmRemember, this is the DOCUMENTARY, real footage, where people, responding to real horror, react in real ways with real language. The right is planning to complain to the FCC if the documentary, which has aired before, isn’t edited to omit the swear words.
The FCC website also has the email addresses for the chairman and commissioners…please email them and protest this REAL attempt at censorship.
I’m sorry, but this thread seems wrong. Just say the words, “evangelical christian” and it sounds like a code word for a right-wing wacko. It’s fair to criticize the 9/11 program–it deserves it–but would you highlight if the producer/director was Jewish? Muslim? I don’t think so.
September 8th, 2006 at 8:29 pmWell, 6 years and the evangelicals have finally made into the national school system. It starts with this and ends where?? Our children have now been targeted by these crazy bastards, yes crazy bastards. If they want to do good how about concentrating on the homeless, the millions of needy children, the abused women, the starving nations. No they can’t do that, that would be for other people. They absolutely MUST have control of the country, just like uh I don’t know, maybe like the Taliban.
September 8th, 2006 at 8:37 pmI’m sorry, but this thread seems wrong. Just say the words, “evangelical christian†and it sounds like a code word for a right-wing wacko. It’s fair to criticize the 9/11 program–it deserves it–but would you highlight if the producer/director was Jewish? Muslim? I don’t think so.
Comment by Eric Flandrau
The evangelicals are corrupt and have been trying for a couple decades to take over this country. They have either just peaked or else they are going to go all the way before Bush leaves office.
By using words like Godly and Love they have brainwashed THEMSELVES into thinking everything they do NO MATTER WHAT THIS MIGHT BE is driven by GOD himself and so they can and will get away with anything. You could easily slap a Cross OR a Swastiska on that type of thinking.
The Jews and Muslims are not do this.
Just saw Judd on Obberman. TP has done a really good job on driving this story. It exposes the heart of the American Taliban. And I think they are now seeing that America will NOT let them do “what ever they want” when it comes to things like 911. 911 just like Jesus does not BELONG to the evangelicals… not matter how much brainwashing they do on themselves and the PUBLIC. This is going to be a real shock for them. They thought they were Davids… and the rest of America was their Goliath. They just awoke a sleeping giant all right… but it wasnt Goliath.
September 8th, 2006 at 8:44 pmHey, when you guys get the country back can I still go to church? The movies? Have a tv? Take the kids to Orlando? Have a beer with Soros?
Read the 9/11 Commission report? Read op/ed’s unapproved by Faiz? Watch video of Osama and the hijackers having lunch together in Kandahar instead of “Loose Change?”
I saw F-911, but I didn’t write any letters. Is that OK, just askin’?
September 8th, 2006 at 8:46 pmWell, well, well. Who would have thunk a bunch of evangelicals would be behind trying to rewrite history? How Christian of them. It’s groups like this who give true Christians a bad name. Shame, shame on them. Like I said a couple nights ago, follow the money. Thank you TP for your hard work and determination to get to the bottom of this. You are the REAL journalists! Truth to power!
September 8th, 2006 at 8:50 pmKeep at it. Great work — this is an important story.
September 8th, 2006 at 8:54 pmstevesh
Yes you can go to the movies, have a tv (as long as no Fox), you can only go to Orlando during the shoulder season, you can have a beer with Soros so long as its a microbrew, you cannot read the 9-11 commission report, you can read op-eds unapproved by Faiz, you cannot watch videos of Osama instead of Loose Change.
Got it.
Good.
September 8th, 2006 at 8:55 pmstevesh,
Oh I forgot, you cannot go to church.
September 8th, 2006 at 8:56 pmI dunno. I’m pretty suspicious about The Path to 9/11–I’ve written all the usual suspects to express my concern and to say that I’ll boycott Disney and ABC if it turns out to be as bad as it sounds–but I can get myself worked up that the movie was made by evangelicals. It’s a free country. Some evangelicas are gifted artists. I’m more sympathetic to gay activists or anti-poverty activists who want to make movies, but I don’t see what’s wrong with evangelicals pursuing their visions and beliefs in film form. My problem is with ABC’s simultaneous and irreconcilable claims that the movie is factually accurate and that it doesn’t have to be factually accurate because it’s drama. If the movie turns out to be slanted and invidiously invented, the problem won’t be the filmmakers’ distortion and dishonest but rather ABC’s pretense that the whole thing is “based on the 9/11 Commision’s report.”
September 8th, 2006 at 9:02 pmwhat do you mean enough with the ABC thing? The whole point is it hasn’t happened yet!
September 8th, 2006 at 9:03 pm#1 – My thoughts exactly, Juan.
Ignore Badmoodman, he’s….um, in a bad mood. :P
September 8th, 2006 at 9:04 pmThou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
Look it up: it’s on that big stone thing they tried to put in the Alabama State House…
September 8th, 2006 at 9:11 pmFor Truth, #21 & #22:
Harpoon (a sort-of Boston micro)?
Alex Jones (at least he’s sort-of funny)?
Chapel? Catacombs (easy to bury after martyrdom)?
Cool?
Thanks.
September 8th, 2006 at 9:13 pmINTERESTING.
700 CLUB’S WEB SITE AIN’T TOUCHING THIS ABC/DISNEY PIECE OF CRAP.
What do you make of that?
September 8th, 2006 at 9:21 pmstevesh
You have submitted an acceptable list sir. The Catacombs would be preferred over a Chapel. You’re martyrdom idea is good, you may get your full set of papers afterall.
September 8th, 2006 at 9:31 pmstevesh
You can redeem yourself for failing to send letters after viewing f911, by watching Bowling for Columbine. It was better than f911, and that thought will make you even more interested in seeing it.
September 8th, 2006 at 9:35 pm#1. I sure know what ya mean, Juan. This ABC stuff is hard and sure does get tiring for us sheeple. Much prefer to discuss simple and important things like Suri Cruise and Jon Benet Ramsey’s killer. Like you and the rest of us sheeple, it’s just so much easier to sleep through that political garbage. I wake up and listen when Bush or Fox News make the important stuff easy for us to understand. Have great evening, Juan!
September 8th, 2006 at 9:49 pm[Comment deleted by admin]
September 8th, 2006 at 10:08 pmWhy, does that turn you on Merv?
September 8th, 2006 at 11:03 pmFunny that you are now finally concerned what teachers are talking about with our children is on your mind. In my opinion, anything other than evolution as the only option, abortion as an alternative to morals, and english as a 2nd language would be fine with me.
September 9th, 2006 at 12:14 amSorry Juan. But if there are still 39% supporting Bush, and 46% who still believe that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, we still have a ways to go to get some of them to see how corrupt these reichwingers actually are.
September 9th, 2006 at 12:23 amThe Repuglicans are doing an excellent job of assisting us in bringing them down, but we must counter the fear-talk coming out of the White House.
Shag – there were weapons of mass destruction – read the facts please.
Come on back from la-la land and ask yourself why this 9/11 drama is causing such a stir? Truth hurts about the 90s for the left.
Come on Clinton legacy….you can do it…..come on….keep trying…..you’ll get one soon enough.
September 9th, 2006 at 12:33 amother example letter
Robert A. Iger
President and CEO, The Walt Disney Company
Dear Mr. Iger:
As [personal information], I don’t appreciate the event being used for poltical purposes. Based on news reports and reviews of your mock-umentary, I believe that the piece is not only factually incorrect, but morally reprehensible. Quite frankly, it seems like a piece produced by former Pravda writers rather than Americans.
By aligning yourself with a poltical viewpoint, which seeks to gain power frome these tragic attacks, you have lost the soul of your company: Walt never produced fear; Jennings on that day searched for the facts. Do you remember these men?
I would appreciate a prompt reply to my e-mail.
September 9th, 2006 at 12:42 amAnd to add to this…I’m reading on buzzflash that most of this movie was outsourced…to Canada. Millions diverted from the American economy to produce this movie. What happened to trickle down economics?
September 9th, 2006 at 12:57 amDear Mr. Iger:
I have $40m and I’m making docudrama about how you gave up monday night footbal to support the christian right film industry. I have an auctioneer who will give a disclaimer at least 4 times stating that this is based on the facts: you no longer host MNF and you do support the christian right film industry.
All business decisions will be dramatized (auctioneer will confirm this) and I’ll contract Tom Cruise to play you, and Mel Gibson todirect it. All parties will wear mickey mouse ears with subliminal cartoons of crosses on their hats.
Please respond and let me know if you support my free speech.
September 9th, 2006 at 1:03 am#38 – Bones, weapons of mass destruction? Prove it please. Link and source. Just to help you out – any weapons found which the Pentagon discounts, were lost after 1991 or are otherwise useless, well they don’t count. And when you;ve done that you can tell us why the Senate says the AlQaeda relationship was BS, desite what Dick Cheney says. As a bonus, you can watch Mark Fiore: http://www.markfiore.com/animation/phony.html Your a dittohead, Bones.
September 9th, 2006 at 1:05 amWow Jud, I just saw you on olberman.. you are HOT!!!.. yummie
September 9th, 2006 at 1:10 amYWAM participants, such as MarkandKrista (email on their website: admin@markandkrista.com), solicit tax deductible contributions for their WYAM “work.” If YWAM or YWAM affiliates provided financial support for the “Path to 9-11″ movie, did they do so with their tax deductible contributions?
September 9th, 2006 at 1:18 am#42 – Turtle from Entorauge – I love how you put the disclaimers about WMD. “They didnt have WMD” says big bad liberal. “Oh wait, those, no THOSE WMD don’t count, I meant WMD after 1991″. Which is it fancy pants?
I notice the dittohead comment. Nice. But I havent seen a response – just name calling which is what I would expect since the facts fail you again.
Quit whining about it – we’re safer because we are in Iraq – simple as that. I know you don’t want to admit it. I know you want to impeach Bush like Clinton got impeached and Iraq would suit you fine to do it over. I know you don’t like why we are in Iraq, but we are there and YOU are better off for it – and that is what is really killing you. I know you hate Bush SOOOOOOOO much that you are practically willing to let the terrorists win to prove it. So relax, and understand that making hard decisions is a part of the job that Bush has embraced, unlike his predecessor.
September 9th, 2006 at 1:21 amQuit whining about it – we’re safer because we are in Iraq – simple as that. I know you don’t want to admit it.
Are you using the royal “we,” or are you actually in Iraq right now?
I know you want to impeach Bush like Clinton got impeached and Iraq would suit you fine to do it over.
No, actually, I would like to see Bush impeached and then imprisoned.
…
So relax, and understand that making hard decisions is a part of the job that Bush has embraced, unlike his predecessor.
Comment by bones
Clinton embraced the hard decisons. Which cigar today…? Cum on the blue dress…or the red dress…?
Pisses you off to no end, doesn’t it?
September 9th, 2006 at 1:46 amWhere’s the money coming from? ABC/Disney is not forking over $40 million for a TV show that runs without commercials. The money’s coming from somewhere else.
September 9th, 2006 at 2:05 amMy older sister as a child got to meet Walt Disney as a child, and I saw him once at Disneyland in California, so what has happened to the Disney name now is horrible! If Walt was alive he would NOT allow this phony docudrama to even exist > in spirit I bet he is ashamed!
September 9th, 2006 at 2:47 amCorrection for post 48: My sister as a child got to meet Walt Disney, and I saw him … { I did not intend to use “as a child” twice in that sentence.}
September 9th, 2006 at 2:52 amUm, I know I’m feeding trolls here, but…
Bones:
We invaded Iraq supposedly because–and at the time, this was the main and pretty much only reason the Bush administration ever gave–Saddam Hussein supposedly had and intended to use WMD against us or his neighbors.
He didn’t. The Pentagon says he didn’t. George Bush says he didn’t. (Remember his little White House correspondents’ dinner routine in which he looked high and low for WMD that he couldn’t find? That was really him.) The Economist just ran a two-page editorial pointing out that he didn’t.
Saying, “Well, he had them in 1991″ is just silly. If he had them in 1991, they were probably the ones we sold him. He was supposed to use them against Iran. He did. He also used them against the Kurds. By 2003, he didn’t have them any more. In over three years, nobody’s found anything like a usable, operational WMD in Iraq, and I defy you to find a single piece of actual evidence (not a blogger who heard it from some dude who’s pretty sure he saw it on Drudge) that says we did.
Invading Iraq in 2003 because in 1991 Hussein had WMD that we sold him is like a cop getting his next door neighbor drunk on Friday night and arresting him for driving to work on Monday. “But I’m sober now, Bob.” “Screw you, Alan, I know for a fact you were plastered Friday night.”
September 9th, 2006 at 3:19 amDo you smell urine?
Oh. Bones was here.
September 9th, 2006 at 7:05 amAgain, just to let everyone know my name BONES was hijacked on this thread too. Those that know me know this idiot has to be Exley or some other troll out to make trouble. TP has to fix this hijacking names crap.
September 9th, 2006 at 7:30 amIANAL but this seems like the missing piece of the libel puzzle. You have to publish something that you know is false, and you have to do so with intent to defame. We know there are falsehoods in the program, because the 9/11 report contradicts it. We also know that they know there are falsehoods in the program, because they say it’s based on the 9/11 report and a reasonable person would assume they read the document upon which they “based” the miniseries. Now you have an unraveling of the people behind the production of the movie, and you find out that they were assembled with a specific agenda to bring more conservative voices into Hollywood. Since a popular conservative opinion is that Clinton was somehow a bad president because he got some trim, the agenda of the producers seems to sew up the malice aforethought angle.
September 9th, 2006 at 8:16 amIf it wasn’t for the blogs this would have not gotten to far.
September 9th, 2006 at 8:22 amBut, I don’t think it ends with a small radical right group. I think it goes to the White House. I think this was a planted movie and Rove or someone is very involved but, is in deep background and protected.
Somehow calling myself Bones has infuriated the ‘real’ bones. I am not trying to impersonate anyone – just trying the blog thing for the first time. I don’t know who TP is but hijacking is not what I was doing. I couldnt care less to pretend to be this bones character that apparently feels ownership of the name. Clowns.
September 9th, 2006 at 8:32 amWhere books are burned, human beings are destined to be burned too.
September 9th, 2006 at 9:05 amI don’t know who TP is but hijacking is not what I was doing. I couldnt care less to pretend to be this bones character that apparently feels ownership of the name. Clowns.
Comment by bones — September 9, 2006 @ 8:32 am
You most certainly are hijacking. Very akin to making up crap, calling it a “docudrama” and defaming people, then when it is pointed out that you are using someone else’s screen name and should change it so as not to cause confusion you continue exactly to cause problems and confusion. Now you want to prove your point – since I was posting here before you with this screen name and you, by your own admission only “started posting here” and now you know someone else has the screen name, then you would have NO problem changing your screen name, unless you are a troublemaker troll.
September 9th, 2006 at 9:07 amWho are these people exactly who would transform Hollywood or anywhere/anything else? What is it with unshared faith and values? (Whose values? Whose faith) What will happen to stars like Mel Gibson? Will he be destined to do Hail Marys forevermore? Once we are all “transformed” will we all have the same thoughts and one mind as well? Didn’t Hitler have a design for master race too? Is it too much to ask that next time born againers return that they come with brains or at least a well thought out plan?
September 9th, 2006 at 10:11 amOne Question: Has anyone commenting here, including Faiz, actually seen “The Path to 9/11″?
I thought not. How about putting the 1st Amendment first, and letting the American people decide? That is what we have done with every other controversial publication in our history – including “Fahrenheit 9/11″, “JFK” and “The Last Temptation of Christ”.
Personally, I doubt that the movie either blames Clinton or praises Bush as much as Faiz claims it does. Neither president distinguished himself as a warrior against Islamic terrorism before 9/11. If the reviews of those who actually have seen the advance screenings are accurate, the miniseries focuses much more attention on the nature of the enemy – especially Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Sheik Mohammed. As we now know, they both went undetected in their deadly plans over a period of many years. As we now know, al Qaeda declared war on us in 1996 – and we never took seriously the possibility that they might attack us here at home.
The fact that Yousef and KSM and their co-conpsirators were able to fly (NPI) under the radar of the world’s intelligence and national security agencies has already been documented. It is a fact that cannot be changed. It is history that cannot be airbrushed. It is demonstrated most poignantly by the blood and debris of 9/11. The 9/11 attacks were not conceived and executed in a span of only 8 months. It took years of sophisticated, dedicated, relentless planning and training. Those years stretch back to the earliest Islamic hijackings and kidnappings of the early 1970s. To that extent, one can “blame” every former president since Richard Nixon for the 9/11 attacks, but what good would it do to blame any of them? That is not the point.
The point is that our enemy is sophisticated, dedicated, and relentless. That is their nature. Since 9/11, we know that all too well. Ultimately any blame will not be cast on those who misunderstood the enemy before 9/11. It will fall, with history’s heavy judgment, on those who persist in misunderstanding the enemy after 9/11. Bill Clinton and his whining sycophants would serve themselves and the nation better by focusing on the future, instead of the past.
Let “The Path to 9/11″ be shown. If it offends you, avert your eyes. But let the American people decide.
September 9th, 2006 at 10:16 amTP, nice work uncovering and developing this story. Now this was journalism.
September 9th, 2006 at 10:28 amSeems as though a quote by Barry Goldwater back in the 60’s still applies. Jerry Falwell was just coming on the scene and the consummate conservative, Barry Goldwater was asked what he thought of Falwell. The answer, “I think very good Christian should kick him in the ass…” Evangalists, please keep your thoughts and faith to yourself. The rest of us don’t care and will never live in your stupid world.
Think what you like. In this country we have a right to do that. Say what you like, we also have freedom of speech.
I am very concerned about the government putting pressure on the media not to air something.
This kind of thing started a few years back when Republicans put pressure on CBS not to air “The Reagans” for the same reasons the Democrats are leaning on ABC today about 911.
CBS did not air “The Reagans” but it was later aired on Showtime. I think this was a huge mistake and was in direct conflict on our freedom of speech and freedom of the press.
I don’t care where anyone’s political view lie but everyone should be concerned about the governments power to curtail OUR rights.
Remember – defending speech that you agree with is easy. It’s defending the speech you don’t agree with that is difficult…and the most important!
September 9th, 2006 at 10:48 amLet “The Path to 9/11″ be shown. If it offends you, avert your eyes. But let the American people decide.
Comment by Black Swamp Renegade — September 9, 2006 @ 10:16 am
Several problems with your arguement. First it is being presented as “documentary”, by definition this means it’s fact not fiction. Do you even remember the OUTRAGE over A Million Little Pieces, when it turned out to be fiction not fact, no difference. except one. you can not present media of any type besmirching the good name and reputation of a person, present it as “fact” and not fall under the defamation laws in this country. If anyone came out and made a film and LIED about the actions of a real person, the Courts enforce liable standards against the film makers. the truth is the republicans fully expect to get sued and lose. They are presenting this travesty as “fact”, two months before an election, violating propoganda laws. They are presenting this thing at a $40 million loss (no commercials) and will accept an “undisclosed award” in the millions, as the “cost” of stealing an election. Ford did this when they figured the cost of lawsuits and awards for the Pinto would be less than the cost of fixing all the Pintos, and if people burned to death, that’s ok since the cost of the awards was less than the benefit from the sales. So the republicans are willing to lie, get sued, pay a judgement to gain House and Senate seats.
September 9th, 2006 at 10:53 amRemember – defending speech that you agree with is easy. It’s defending the speech you don’t agree with that is difficult…and the most important!
Comment by Clark — September 9, 2006 @ 10:48 am
I agree freedom of speech is an important right. But note the “right” only applies to the US government suppressing your right to free speech. It doesn’t apply to people who are outraged at peversion of history for propoganda purposes holding a company accountable for their irresponsible actions. If you really are a free speech supporter a more appropriate fight for you might be Free Speech Zones outside government and political events, arresting people at the President’s venues for the wrong “tshirt” or “bumper sticker”, suppression of free speech rights at airports or government buildings that get people arrested.
September 9th, 2006 at 10:57 amSo… how, exactly, are Amerika christian cult fascists attempts to drive ideology any different than Afghanistan’s Taliban?
Fundimentalist ideology is dangerous in both cases.
September 9th, 2006 at 11:08 amWhy am I not surprised that the right wing evangelical christianists have their fingers in this?
September 9th, 2006 at 12:49 pmThe mullahs of America, the leaders who believe they have a direct line to Jesus, who want to impose their religion, their version of morality, their views on everything social and cultural with our country are our own domestic Taliban.
#65 JCGoW
September 9th, 2006 at 1:13 pmI didn’t mean to “step on your toes” with my comment right after yours – but posts are extremely slow, and some of the ones near the bottom “disappear” while I am reading them.
Anyway – we are both saying the same – and that’s a good thing.
christian evangelists…omg, nooooooooooooooo…what gives them the right to make a movie….movies should stay secular, like they have always been. their slanted agenda must be brought to an end. wait…yourself nor thinkprogressive has a slanted agenda, do you?
September 9th, 2006 at 2:51 pmyourself nor thinkprogressive has a slanted agenda, do you?
Comment by scott — September 9, 2006 @ 2:51 pm
Scott who is this “yourself”? and Scott the site is Think Progress not “thinkprogressive”.
September 9th, 2006 at 2:59 pmdixie blood – relax. Glad to know I made an impression – this is the 1st blog but thanks for the high praise. Sorry you are so clearly angry – i am sure you would recognize what an a$$wipe is – without a doubt.
September 9th, 2006 at 4:01 pmYea – I’ll stick with BonesTwo. I’m sure you think I’m a WOMBAT becuase you’ve made such clever arguments in support of your cause as…… well, maybe next time.
I think you should rename yourself to Dixie Flag.
And to the real Bones – in 63 you state this is a ‘documentary’ when clearly the label ‘docudrama’ implies otherwise. So you are incorrect. and you go pretty quickly from an explanation of 1st ammendment to “the republicans are willing to lie, get sued, pay a judgement to gain House and Senate seats. “. I’m sure the Dems would never lie, get sued or roll the legal dice for power – would they (valerie plame – joe wilson – case in point). Hmmm.
People can say what they want and it is certainly not within the governments right to intimidate a company into showing or not showing a program based on their opinions. Whatever the movie is, the events leading up to 9/11 are clearly complex and anyone using a 100% objective and non biased guide would never be able to pass cross your ever so pious hurdle. What about Dan Rather and CBS using Forged Documents prior to the election – should that NEWS (not ENTERTAINMENT division like in the path tho 9/11 movie) organization be forced to lose their license? I am guessing I will have a hard time finding a post by you supporting THAT. Pathetic.
September 9th, 2006 at 5:22 pm[...] It isn’t as though they’re airing inaccuracies so grevious that experts and historians who’s viewed the film has called it wrong, that it was produced by a right-wing propaganda firm, it’s not like an insider told a blogger It was meant to attack Clinton, written by a guy who wants to transform Hollywood for Conservatives, it’s not like conservatives are calling it “Defamatory” and “zero factual basis”, or that a conservative media watchdog group is saying that ABC shouldn’t air it, or even A Fox Anchor, even Bush’s own terror expert says it’s fantasyland. It’s not that ABC is falsely claiming that the docudrama is based on the 9/11 report, and it has nothing to do with the fact that ABC were trying to send out this show to Children with error-filled booklets. [...]
September 9th, 2006 at 6:38 pm[...] As someone who was pretty close to the 9/11 events when they occurred, I find alot of things that’s been done in its name over the past few years (i.e. the false war on terrorism) a disgrace to all those who lost loved ones. This miniseries that ABC plans to air, a false version of events that distorts the truth and rewrites history, is simply another act of rubbing more salt into the wounds. Playing partisan politics with an event as significant as this is a serious lack of ethics on the part of ABC / Disney. They’re under alot of pressure now to pull the miniseries – and if they’re not smart enough to do so, I expect that they’ll be dealing the repercussions afterwards. [...]
September 9th, 2006 at 7:04 pm“But this is what you must do: Tell the truth to each other. Render verdicts in your courts that are just and that lead to peace. Do not make evil plots to harm each other. And stop this habit of swearing to things that are false. I hate all these things, says the Lord.” -Zechariah 9:16-17 NLT
September 9th, 2006 at 7:55 pmComment by bonesTwo — September 9, 2006 @ 5:22 pm
See there’s the differnce, i reflect reality and you reflect some kind of perverse sense of republofascist stupidity.
(1) A docudrama is not let’s use real people real events and LIE about the events. Did you not see the ads for the film in Europe and Australia from ABC that say this is the “true factual events that lead to 9-11″. This is not a docudrama.
(2) Your next point was that given the chance the Democrats would lie, cheat, and steal just like the republicans. Well, first I’m glad you agree with me the republicans are lying, cheating, and stealing with this movie. Second are ou really proposing the “But Billy did it” arguement? A kid gets caught stealing and when his Mom is about to skin his behind, he looks up at her and offers, “But Billy did it too”. Great justification. I guess if i need cash I’ll shoot some bankers and say Rumsfeld did it in Iraq.
(3) Your third point I believe was “it is certainly not within the governments right to intimidate a company into showing or not showing a program based on their opinions.”. Um, you’re absolutely bats#@t crazy. have you heard of the FCC and Janet Jackson nipple slip? Have you heard that the “airwaves belong to the people” and broadcasters must “serve the public good” in order to be granted a license? The public airwaves are completely under government control, every word, every picture, every Public Service Message. Further, there is no right to broadcast defamatory inaccurate material about someone. For example I could make a film about a certain blogger being a killer and a whore, and I could id them by name. If I broadcast that film and it was inaccurate and I had even received letters from the bloggers attorneys stating the inaccurate facts in the film, I have NO RIGHT to broadcast defamatory material.
(4) Your fourth point “the events leading up to 9/11 are clearly complex and anyone using a 100% objective and non biased guide would never be able to pass cross your ever so pious hurdle.”. Well, again no they are not. they’re only complex if you’re trying to lie about them. The truth takes 30 seconds, lies take longer, lot of bulls*@t to pump out in lying.
September 9th, 2006 at 9:40 pmLook at all the “consultants” that quit in protest . Look at the first “documentary” advertising and the “true events of 9-11″ advertising overseas and look at what ABC and the producer have said since – “tweaking the film”, not “totally based on the facts”, artistic license, etc. Note that Bill Clinton stopped the first WTC bomb plot , prosecuted, and jailed for eternity all participants, he didn’t blame Bush I.
You pitiful liberals. Grow up! Of course we invaded Iraq for the oil, sorry, we need oil. Try running a Hummer on corn oil derived ethanol.
It’s really pretty simple if you will only pay attention, there are Christians and there are non-Christians, and that’s the end of the story. Which side are you clowns on? And you had better make the right choice and make it fast, because our Holy leader George is firing up the bombs. It is Armageddon time and you losers can’t stop us now!!
You had your chance in 2004. Kiss your ass and your filthy children’s ass goodbye.
Enjoy the fires of hell!!!
September 9th, 2006 at 10:20 pmnice take original bones – but my point is simply that I am STILL struggling to find your outrage about the Dem lying cheating and stealing. Not that two wrongs make a right – but that your selective outrage reveals you for the left wing kook that Im certain you are.
It is as if this movie has suddenly stirred your desire for media objectivity. Congratulations.
September 9th, 2006 at 10:25 pm# 75:
Someone is posing as Mighty Aphrodite.
# 75 is an impostor,and not Mighty Aphrodite.
TROLL ALERT !!
September 10th, 2006 at 3:43 amIt’s interesting that Christians never force anyone to embrace there beliefs. However they do express them and have every right to do so.
September 10th, 2006 at 2:10 pmYou should be more concerned with those Islamic terrorists who blow themselves up along with innocent women and children perhaps you, your wife and your children someday if you don’t embrace their religion.
Now regardless of the Path to 9/11 lets look at some facts we already know or should know.
Of course the Democrats are upset by this miniseries. It’s painful to be reminded of your incompetence and your traitorous leaders. Start with Madeline Albright who has made statements to the fact that the U.S. was too powerful and this was unfair to other nations.
No telling what damage she did to try to equalize this terribly unfair situation. She should have been fired on the spot. Then there’s Sandy Burglar who stole documents out of the National archives by stuffing them in his socks and shorts and calling this an accident (sure Sandy). What embarrassing information in the Clinton administration was he trying to cover up? Who helped him to skate with a slap on the wrist? How about Jamie Gorelick who put up a barrier between investigative organizations preventing the sharing of information that could have led to the exposing of the 9/11 plot? She sat on the wrong side of the aisle in the 9/11 commission. What an outrage! Then there’s the commander in heat who was to busy doing other things to want Bin Laden handed over to him when it was known he was behind acts of terrorism against us and our embassies. He also, according to Bin Laden, had given America a paper tiger appearance by his backing down in attacks that occurred on us and our troops such that occurred in Somalia and on the U.S.S. Cole. Again, there was the Iraq debacle. The inspectors were kicked out in 1998 and I thought surely we’ll be back in short order. Six months went by …nothing, another six months …nothing, more PAPER TIGER. Two years passed and no inspections with the “sitting on its hands administrationâ€. Who knows what Saddam did in those vacant years? And we all know how effective the sanctions in Iraq proved to be. Many members of the worthless U.N. and there friends were taking bribes rendering those sanctions null and void. If Kofi was exonerated as the head of the U.N. then maybe Ken Lay as the head of Enron should also been exonerated. I could go on but it’s too depressing. Why doesn’t some investigative reporter look into “Able Dangerâ€? Are they all too biased and don’t want to uncover more embarrassment? Then the Democrats threaten the licensing of ABC after accusing the Bush administration of infringing on peoples rights with his programs in defense of terrorism. What hypocrisy!
Does anybody really want the ineptness of the Democrats in office during these times?
I hope not.
As a member of YWAM and also a friend to the director of 9/11, I have to say that I am astounded by the claim that YWAM was some subversive agent in this film. This reporting and assessment of who David Cunningham is and YWAM’s involvement is so wrong it’s laughable. Laughing is pretty much what we YWAMers are doing, except for the fact that these allogations could damage David’s career. What is being reported is rubbish. How do I know? Because I am getting my information FIRST HAND.
My faith in the accuracy of the new media has been killed. My belief in the integrity of the demoratic party has desolved. And, honestly, I must say that people will believe anything, if it is in-line with their preconceived biases.
Do you know many groups of missionaries who could pull together 40 million dollars simply to make a political statement? It’s absolutely crazy. There is no truth what-so-ever to this completely irresponsible reporting.
YWAM is interested in building homes for AIDS orphans, re-habilitaing prostitutes in the third world, protecting children at risk, etc. Political statements are not even on our radar when it comes to our heart or priorities. If we had 40 million dollars, we’d FEED people, not attack the democratic party. In fact, MANY American YWAMers are democrats! In fact, we’re only 26% American…the majority of YWAMer’s don’t even live in our country or vote.
David just happens to be the son of the Founder of YWAM. David’s sister ran a pre-school on the set of 9/11 in Toronto. Is that a subversive plot to destroy the democratic image? Actually, it appears to me, as a person who is actually not very intersested in politics, that the democratic party and the news stations it has in its pockets will go to any length to destroy this film, even if it means reporting lies and abusing freedom of speech.
So, my faith in God is still in tact. But, my faith in the integrity of the news media and the democratic party has been dashed to pieces. Such a shame, since I was one of those swing votes.
September 10th, 2006 at 4:15 pmA NOTE FROM ANOTHER YWAMer…
I have to say that it is nuts the way that our school of FILM is being railed on as some subversive plot to infiltrate Hollywood. We are a University as well as a missions organization. We have classes on film and acting, as well as classes on creating sustainable farms in the third world. We want to be a positive influence in the world? Is that a crime? Is that a covert plan? Last I heard, it was commendable.
YWAM knows media is an important voice in the world. All those quotes on the web about the Film Institute have construed it to be a “covert evangelical plot”. Are we all a little paranoid out there? I mean…come on!
And the web pages about the Film Institute that are “mysteriously missing” have probably been pulled because random YWAMers…who have nothing to do with any of this controversy are being tracked down and hounded by the media and could get death threats, etc. (People involved with this film are getting death threats.) YWAMers names and contact info were on those pages. So, there is the secret to the big cover up.
The Film Institute simply wants to encourage Christians to be a part of Hollywood. That town and industry are not easy things to become a part of as Hollywood tends to discriminate against believers. Case and point this movie and the attacks on YWAM.
David Cunningham is not some undercover agent out to take over the media industry. He is a guy who loves to direct films and is also a Christian. The Film Institute is not a “plot”, it’s just a way for David to help aspiring film directors, etc. The University his Father founded is a natural way to find these aspiring future Hollywood types. I do believe many, many players in Hollywood also like to help out those who are aspiring to be a voice in the media?
“Transforming” Hollywood is a big, inspiring word for the hope the University of Nations has to see its graduates become a positive, influencing voice. It’s a hope to produce films and shows and screen plays that inspire faith and the better things in humanity…It’s a hope to train actors who will actually grow up to be people you WANT your child to look up to. That’s our big master plan. So in case you are worried about Christians being in Hollywood, I’ll say it more plainly. Nobody is planning to control your mind, beliefs or values. I KNOW YWAM has no interest in controlling political parties.
I mean, really, is there no room in Hollywood for people who want to inspire, uplift and challenge humanity to find the best in themselves? To question and explore the greater truths about why we are here and is there a God? We seem to have room for Snakes on a Plane. (Which is a great title by the way!)
Do we really think it’s a crime for Christians to be a part of Hollywood? The media and especially this website sure is treating it as so.
September 10th, 2006 at 5:19 pmLast I checked,the founders of America came to escape religious persecution.
Comrades Bravo!
These traitors at ABC are betrayers of our new mother land. Where I come from, this Robert A. Iger would be dragged through the streets in front of the tomb of our glorious leader Vladimir Lenin and shot in public. The producers, directors, writers and anyone associated with this propaganda would be picked up in the early hours of the morning by our State Security Chief Lavrenty Beria (The Black Hand) and taken to a Siberian labor camp never too be heard from again.
For many years I have been loyal to ABC and the Pravda (truth) that our Socialist Liberal ally has put forth in order to progress our ultimate goal; the decline and absolute destruction of America and the capitalist traitorous pig’s like ABC.
I ask you Mr. Robert A. Iger, “Have you no shame Sir�
Comrades, we must not give up the fight. It has taken us many years to groom you and your elected leaders.
Remember what our great leader Nikita Khrushchev said:
“ We can’t expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism ”
It’s more important now then ever before that we stand together and stay focused! We can not allow this abomination of propaganda to go forward.
We must do whatever it takes to keep this film from airing on Sunday the 10th, 2006, we only have a few hours left.
It is your duty as loyal Liberal Socialist Democrats to rise up in solidarity and put a stop to this immediately!
Senator Harry Reid, one of our courageous and distinguished Senatorial leaders from the state of Nevada, reminded the capitalist traitorous pigs at ABC of their license from the FCC. Please Senator Reid, we’re your loyal comrades in arms and begging you to use all the glorious power you possess. You must stop this film! You must push forward with an iron fist and crush this despicable display of propaganda.
If this film isn’t stopped from airing on ABC, Sunday night, I’m afraid all our efforts since the cold war and the aspirations of our great leaders from glorious years past and Nikita Khrushchev’s dreams and predictions will have been lost.
If we loose now, the great Liberal Socialist Democratic Party, we have nurtured, will decline into the ash heaps of history never too be heard from again.
You must!…. I repeat, you must contact our comrades in arms at their offices in Washington.
Now I’ve done all the work all you have to do is contact our comrades below by e-mail or call:
Clinton, Hillary Rodham- (D – NY) Class I
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Wow…you all will believe anything that is said. Let me say, as a person involved with the leadership of YWAM…
YWAM had nothing to do with the message or funding of this film.
YWAM is NOT a right wing- fundamentalist evangelical organization.
YWAM has nothing to do with the Religious Right.
YWAM is MOSTLY made up of NON-AMERICANS, who don’t care about all this or know what the religious right is.
YWAM has TONS of DEMOCRATS in it.
You guys are believing lies. This web-site is not to be trusted.
You should all check your hearts for the obvious BIGOTRY you feel towards Christians. In light of the REAL FACTS I have just listed, shouldn’t there be an inner alarm going off about the hateful prejudice against believers in our nation?
You all are part of persecuting an organization that helps millions of people across the world…. Why exactly? Why are you all SO WILLING TO BELIEVE LIES ABOUT CHRISTIANS?
September 11th, 2006 at 3:31 pmDetails, please, details. (About the film.)
I haven’t seen it and I’m not an American. But if you’re going to knock something, stop knocking the people who made it and give some details on why the film is innacurate.
I followed the link you gave, and at that site as well, there’s precious few details … just a statement that the film is pro-Bush and anti-Clinton. I don’t know if it is or not – I haven’t watched it.
But if you say it is, give me a concrete example, please. Or many concrete examples.
September 11th, 2006 at 7:16 pmat 9.55 pm sunday- I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMEN-flashed across the screen -totally out of contex with the inaccurate account of the 93 bombing of the wtc arrest and convictions.get that in because half of their viewers switched to premium cable at 10.
September 11th, 2006 at 9:32 pm#81- Pertfectly put comrade.
I honestly used to believe the left had mostly good ideas, unrealistic for a capitalist society perhaps, but the ideology seemed on track. The vision was pretty clear… It was the actual (government) execution of these programs that was always lacking. That was then.
September 12th, 2006 at 5:58 pmI’ve completely changed my point of view. It’s clear to me now that the Democratic party has become a radical voice that will not only turn on, but furiously attack anybody or entity that doesn’t fall in line with the new “Agenda”.
Nowhere is this more clear than in the recent events involving Joe Lieberman & now… ABC.
Lieberman was the man you same people nominated as one of the 2 best suited to represent the party only 6 years ago. Today he is your newest enemy. Lieberman, like the rest of the Democratic party, voted to remove Sadam. But, because he held to his convictions & would not go back on his decision and cave-in (like everyonre else in the Party) he’s been exhiled & ridiculed. Who changed? Joe… or the Party?
Now ABC? Isn’t this the same station that aired “Commander in Chief” for an entire season? Whereas the producers openly admitted that they wanted to warm the audience up to the idea of a woman in the Whitehouse? How about Desparate Housewives? Do you think the Christian right is behind that one too? ABC is owned by Disney! Disney is an extremely liberal company. Just like Apple (a great company btw, regardless of political ideology), Disney is a group that has openly embraced & sided w/liberal view points. Never stopped me from seeing Lion King.
And as far as the Christian “right” is concerned… I’d bet at least 80% or more of all folks posting on this sight were brought up by parents with Christian values. So… guess your folks (your creators) were all dead wrong, huh? Which also means most of us (myself included) were brought up within a web of lies. A conspiracy from the get go. Actually fits in nicely with the rest of the Party talking points.
So I ask… You all think the Republican party is scary? Take a look in the mirror, friends. There’s a movement stirring in this land of ours. One that hates Christians, family values, and anyone or thing that disagrees with it’s political “Agenda”, as our comrade so eloquently put (81).
And that, to me, compared to an administration that will be out of office in another 2 yrs, is truly SCARY.
[...] Yesterday – the 5th anniversary of 9/11 – I visited Think Progress to see their side of the Path to 9/11 story. [...]
September 12th, 2006 at 11:34 pmI SAW IT!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:58 amIT WAS TERRIFIC!!
ABC, thank you sooooooooooo much for airing this! Very thought provoking. I would like to hear what Muslims thought about it.
I couldn’t help but think that perhaps all the protesters who have written might use their efforts, not against “caring whistle blowers”, but banding together for the annialation of terrorism!
If I know YWAM, and I believe I do, they are praying for the Muslim world, the news media, ABC, America, terrorists, and politicians too. Would this be too hard for all to believe?
Let’s all join forces together and do away with an encroachment of evil that is seeking to take away our freedoms…..
Yes! Freedom of Speech
Freedom of Press
Freedom of Religion
Freedom of liberty
Freedom of life
and the pursuit to make movies, even if made by one who might be a Christian, caring about TRUTH.
While surfing the WWW for info about the show, “The path to 9/11†I came across your site. I am a conservative and have been since I mistakenly voted for Jimmy Carter. Nice man / bad President. As I started reading the comments my initial thoughts were “where are we going and why are we in this hand basket� I have a hard time understanding Bush haters. They seem bent on jumping in that hand basket and going along for the ride. I kept reading and as the time came for the actual airing of the show got closer I noticed the comments flavor seemed to change (with a small number of exceptions). After the show aired there was a definite change. Where were all the complaints from the left when Nowrasteh aired his show on Showtime “The Day Reagan Was Shot� I was a day or so late watching “The path to 9/ll†since I recorded it on the DVR. It seems that with all of the whining and Bush bashing going on, the real thinkers out there might actually be paying attention. They might be starting to realize that we are at war. They might realize that we need to do something about this before it’s gone to far. They might realize that these extremist’s will not be content until every person on the face of the earth believes the way they do or they are removed from it. I believe the majority of people out there truly understand and will vote to put in office the people that will stand up and protect us from these terrorists. I don’t care if our elected officials are Democrat, Republican, Green, Blue, Black, White Christian or Atheist. The main objective of the Constitution of the United States of America is to protect its citizen’s from harm. There are other things, but that is A # 1 priority. The purpose of the Office of the President is to defend the Constitution. With the discussions of WMD’s, religious groups, political beliefs, TV show’s, etc. aside – the real and biggest problem we as a nation, or as a world population face today is our safety and well being……and these radical Islamist’s are a real threat to all of us. All politicians are crooks. We know that. They all lie. We know that too. They all play partisan, power grabbing politics. We are aware of that as well, but we don’t have to except these conditions. We can vote to change things. The people we are liberating can’t. You say, “We can’t liberate a country by sending in troops and bombs.†I’d ask you what you think of the Allied liberation of France, Belgium, Norway, Poland, Austria, etc. during WWII? You ask, “Why us? Why now?†I’d answer with the same thing Reagan said when asked about his efforts to bring down the USSR during the Cold War. “If not us….who? If not now….when?†We need to ban together as we did after 9/11 and defeat the radical extremist beliefs that are amongst us whether they are Islam, Christian or KKK. If we don’t, there will be no Constitution to defend. However, if it gets to that point it really won’t matter to any of us individually anyway because we will have either gone along for the ride in the hand basket or we will not be here anymore. I say, lets get them now, whatever it takes. I like being here and I will not go for that hand basket ride. All things considered, this world is a pretty nice place, don’t you think? Worth saving, don’t you think?
September 14th, 2006 at 10:34 pmOn Thursday, September 14, 2006, University of The Nations and Youth With A Mission issued the following official statements:
“Youth With A Mission (YWAM) is a non profit, international and interdenominational Christian organization. We are responsible for hundreds of health clinics, orphanages and schools around the world. We have a special emphasis on the developing world and are completely staffed by unpaid volunteers from 150 nations.
We are not affiliated with any American political party and have no political agenda in that or any nation. We had no part in any funding of the ABC mini series THE PATH TO 9/11.
John Dawson, President of Youth With A Mission International Auckland, New Zealand”
“University of the Nations is a an international University with campuses in over 100 countries. It is affiliated with Youth With A Mission (YWAM) and has a special emphasis on bringing education to the developing world. Alumnus David Cunningham has opened doors for many of our film students. One of those opportunities was an internship for 6 of our students on the set of the mini series THE PATH TO 9/11. Our students had the privilege to observe parts of the production phase of the movie David directed.
We have not contributed financially at any level to the TV movie THE PATH TO 9/11 and don’t have any political affiliations in the many countries where our branches are located.
September 15th, 2006 at 5:01 pmDr Thomas Bloomer PHD University of the Nations Provost Office of Academic Affairs Lausanne, Switzerland”
bottom line…..grow up everyone! Take responsibility for your actions…if you don’t like the outcome of who wins elections and how they run the country, then change it. Don’t sit on your fat butts on your computers and write hateful remarks. IT’S A MOVIE FOR GOD SAKE! A movie……….who’s to say that any movie made is true even if they say it is. I’m a Christian and as I watched Mel Gibson’s, The Passion of the Christ, I saw things that were his interpretation. Who’s to say it’s entirely true or not….not me? I believe what I believe, and it makes me what I am.
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