DC affiliate (WJLA) distances itself from Path to 9/11:
By on Sep 10th, 2006 at 8:14 pm
DC affiliate (WJLA) distances itself from Path to 9/11:
“Tonight’s movie The Path to 9/11 was produced by the ABC television network. The program has received some criticism for its depiction of events leading up to the September 11, 2001 attack on America… The dramatized portrayals in this program do not necessarily reflect the views of WJLA television or its ownership…”
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Awesome! If more stations do that in the other markets, maybe the penny (or the umpteen million dollars!) about what a boycott will cost will finally drop on the ABC/Disney management…
September 10th, 2006 at 8:18 pmSo far its a great movie…..
September 10th, 2006 at 8:21 pmThe dramatized portrayals in this program do not necessarily reflect the views of WJLA television or its ownership…â€
But they’re showing it anyway…
Is there some rule that ABC affilliates must show the prime time programming?
September 10th, 2006 at 8:21 pmof course I prefer DOCUDrama.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:21 pmWhat is that picture?
September 10th, 2006 at 8:22 pmI don’t now if I agree with your assessment that they distanced themselves.
When they run that disclaimer while continuing to show the program, they are still carrying out the right-wing agenda.
If they wanted to distance themselves, they did not have to show the program.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:22 pmTo paraphrase Yoda:
“Broadcast or don’t broadcast.”
And if you broadcast, you are one with the liars.
– Emily
September 10th, 2006 at 8:23 pmHavent seen any lies yet… have you?
September 10th, 2006 at 8:24 pmFirst 25 minutes on here on the East Coast. Riveting and well-filmed. Makes you furious all over again….And not at Clinton–not at Bush — But at the Islamist Al Qaeda animals who carried out this atrocity (as well as the first WTC bombing)…
September 10th, 2006 at 8:24 pmUr right Exley… done pretty well so far.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:25 pmIt still stinks!
September 10th, 2006 at 8:28 pm#5 Zooey…That appears to be a screenshot of the fuses burning during the first World Trade Center bombing….Powerful scene. Shows how disappointed the 1993 bombers were that the towers did not collapse into eachother after that bombing.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:29 pmMy friends and I were talking about the fallout of this and it is going to be massive which is why Chris Wallace, Bill Bennett and others on the right are distancing themselves along with urging ABC to edit or pull it altogether. With a more than 50% majority of Americans already questioning the official story of 9/11 – that is the 9/11 commission report – my friends’ thoughts are that this will only further push another 10 – 15% of the American people to question 9/11.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:30 pmHavent seen any lies yet… have you?
Comment by Robroy — September 10, 2006 @ 8:24 pm
already you can tell by the subtle jabs like no wire taps means we want dead americans! look for not the lies but the misdirections. The worst lies are the ones which clothes itself in a grain of truth.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:42 pmToday bush laid wreaths at the World Trade Center site. He couldn’t heed the warnings given to him from the previous administration, isn’t doing anything to make this country safer, can’t capture the man behind the attacks and he can’t even get the date correct for mourning.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:43 pmExley: Wayne said to tell you: 4! I messed up, I was on the 3rd base side, right across from Floyd. It was hot as hell! Hope you got to see the game. I’m at work ’cause I’m taking off tomorrow and Tuesday to do some volunteer work for one of the Democratic Congressional hopefuls. If you want to chat, meet me at the September 8th “Think Fast” thread.
Sorry about being off-topic.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:45 pmLooking for those warnings dlet, cant find them can you.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:45 pm#14 js,
There was also what could be a subtle jab at the Bush administration — When the FBI is interrogating one of the first WTC bombers back in 1993 and the film depicts flashnacks to his torture in Egypt. One of the FBI agents says, “We’re not going to torture you. We don’t do that.”
Some could take that as a jab at the current administration.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:46 pmRight we didnt do that in 93
September 10th, 2006 at 8:47 pm#16 Hi Jane…Not to worry. Unfortunately the game wasn’t shown in my neck of the woods, so I missed. You got a good game though.
Nice win for the Jets today! Say hi to Wayne.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:48 pmRobrot,
September 10th, 2006 at 8:52 pmFeel free to take a gander.
Sorry Robroy the “t” in your name was a typo.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:52 pmAs a film, it’s a real hacked-together P.O.S. so far.
September 10th, 2006 at 8:59 pmExley the ABC/Disney phony docudrama is 100% fiction, and GOP funded propaganda, so anything depicted is hogwash, but go ahead and believe it anyways since you love the Bush Regime > lol.
September 10th, 2006 at 9:00 pmHow’s the reading going Robroy?
September 10th, 2006 at 9:01 pmturned it off after 25 minutes…
September 10th, 2006 at 9:08 pmSo far so good, sorry bout the “t”
September 10th, 2006 at 9:08 pmPut it on tvo…
September 10th, 2006 at 9:09 pmNo offense but this is a legalese cop out. It’s “cut and run [with it]“.
ABC/Disney is a disgrace. I’d have more respect for them if they flew an airplane into a building themselves.
This propaganda promoted as “fact”, i.e. religious belief, is an opiate to the masses and it was intended to influence the mid-term elections.
The ends of their means, preserving one party Republican control of our government, will do more damage to our democracy than Osama’s band of merry men ever could.
September 10th, 2006 at 9:10 pmYeah I agree, cut and run occured too many years ago.
September 10th, 2006 at 9:12 pmAn hour and a half in and nothing has occurred that could even be remotely seen as controversial or anti-Clinton…In fact, the successful hunt for the first WTC bombers puts the Clinton-era FBI and intelligence agencies in a very good light.
September 10th, 2006 at 9:22 pmI dont disagree, shows some pretty inept people but I dont disagree.
September 10th, 2006 at 9:23 pmTime to hang these criminals and their accomplices by rusty piano wire on the Washington Mall!!
September 10th, 2006 at 9:26 pmLast year WJLA sponsored the Pentagon’s “America Supports You Freedom Walk” — an event that politicized 9/11 on its anniversary by linking it to the war in Iraq. That event went over like a lead balloon, and I’m sure WJLA took a lot of hits for it. They don’t want a repeat of last year’s controversy.
September 10th, 2006 at 9:26 pm#33 – Ouch. Hard to get a tetanus shot without a head…
September 10th, 2006 at 9:27 pmA shameful show of disrespect by ABC. I take little comfort that an affiliate runs a 10-second disclaimer at the front end of a six-hour tissue of lies and distortion. How can a network abuse such a tragic event? Disrespect for the victims, the troops fighting overseas, the audience, the nation.
September 10th, 2006 at 9:28 pm#31, Exley, the “successful hunt for the first WTC bombers” was successful because Clinton made it a law-enforcement issue rather than a military one.
(Hey, if Wayne were here he would have said the exact same thing, so I’m filling in :D)
O/T, the Jets made me a little nervous towards the end, but the defense held, yay! J.E.T.S, that’s me!)
September 10th, 2006 at 9:30 pmDoes anyone think that disclaimer was added to provide space for a deleted scene?
September 10th, 2006 at 9:30 pmThe guy who wrote the damn thing has been making things up for a long time. Some views of “Path” screenwriter Cyrus Nowrasteh in the city where he went to high school, including one that accuses him of using “docudrama” techniques to touch up his biography. Sound familiar?
September 10th, 2006 at 9:30 pmMadison Guy,
It makes sense that Zoolander didn’t start making up shit with this alleged docudrama.
September 10th, 2006 at 9:34 pm#31…Jane,
Clearly, the War against Al Qaeda and Islamist terrorism has a major law-enforcement component. But it also has a military component. Even Clinton did not reject military actions against Al Qaeda and Bin Laden. Remember Clinton sent cruise missiles into Sudan and Afghanistan against Al Qaeda (Hardly a law-enforcement approach)….Plus, look at the Richard Clarke memo that dlet sent around in psoting #21. That memo states that the Clinton administration saw military action as a component of the fight against Al Qaeda.
September 10th, 2006 at 9:37 pmThey pulled it in Minot, ND.
September 10th, 2006 at 9:43 pmExley do you understand the difference between drama enacted movie and a real documentary that has real scenes of events without actors?
The ABC/Disney phony docudrama is fictional > Not reality, but go ahead and believe every bit of it > lol.
September 10th, 2006 at 9:43 pm#14
The best lie is the truth—unbelieved!
Tell a lie and say it is the truth, nobody believes you, you lose.
Tell the truth and say it is a lie, nobody believes you, you win.
September 10th, 2006 at 9:43 pmOh great, they pulled in Minot… bout 12 people
September 10th, 2006 at 9:44 pmHey, I’m on the west coast so it’s only 6:50 pm.
I can’t wait – tell us the plot! I heard that maybe the World Trade Center gets demolished by planes?
September 10th, 2006 at 9:44 pmAint seen any lies yet…..
September 10th, 2006 at 9:45 pmWhy waste your eyes on this dross.
Clearly,ABC has an agenda..Just walk
around them.
And keep writing the truth as we know it, or the questions
September 10th, 2006 at 9:47 pmthat might lead to the truth.
“keep writing the truth as we know it” and what is that?
September 10th, 2006 at 9:48 pmOh great, they pulled in Minot… bout 12 people
Comment by Robroy
Minot, ND, population 36,567
September 10th, 2006 at 9:49 pmWFAA in Dallas did no such thing. This movie sucks, no matter your side of the isle.
Wolverines! I’m waiting to hear Patrick Swayze scream…
September 10th, 2006 at 9:49 pmSo,there is the smoking defamation gun! Clinton covering his
September 10th, 2006 at 9:50 pmass on Monica,and then he,Clarke,and Berger being called cowards
by Masoud! Let The lawsuits fly!
#50
zooey,
36,567 people….12 t.v’s
September 10th, 2006 at 9:51 pmOh Dear God,
September 10th, 2006 at 9:52 pmTHE Robroy is here?
I had to hear enough about him from my ex-boyfriend… a Dubliner.
Hey true,
Heard from Juan lately?
September 10th, 2006 at 9:55 pmWhat little I saw was as boring as watching bread dough rise.
Dry and hard to follow. No award winner here.
September 10th, 2006 at 9:55 pm36,567 people….12 t.v’s
Comment by dlet
Right…I heard the tariffs are a real bitch in the polar regions…
September 10th, 2006 at 9:56 pmclearwaterconservative,
Clearwater, Florida or Clearwater, Idaho?
September 10th, 2006 at 9:57 pmThat’s my affilliate! Good on them. I guess we gave them enough complaints that they felt they had to say *something*, even if they didn’t have the balls to not air it.
September 10th, 2006 at 9:59 pmNice one, Zooey!
Juan, I don’t know. I’ll check again. ;)
Don’t you hate it when people are late to a party, or get the DIRECTIONS wrong? :/
September 10th, 2006 at 10:00 pmLuna,
Excellent name, I almost adopted it myself.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:03 pmYeah, I thought that’s how I saw it. Also looks like that cut some of that scene because they cut right to the two guys in the desert after the exchange, but the point was made.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:03 pmRobroy,your endless little world of fantasies and lies will come
September 10th, 2006 at 10:04 pmcrashing down when the smoke clears on this piece of dreck and
the Republicans are routed in November and the impeachment hear-
ings begin!
And at 10:09, we pick up a clear swipe at the Republican Congress of the 1990s. The Clinton administration’s cruise missile strikes in the Sudan and Afghanistan in 1998 are depicted as well intentioned and based solely on national security grounds. And yet the film has the Republicans in Congress derogating the strikes as a “wag the dog” distraction from the Lewinsky scandal.
Clearly, the film is blaming all facets of the U.S. government and both parties as failing to take the Al Qaeda threat seriously in the 1990s. It is hardly the anti-Clinton hit piece depicted by ThinkProgress and other critics.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:07 pm#17
Looking for those warnings dlet, cant find them can you.
Comment by Robroy
So have you looked over what I linked to yet? Do you agree that that would be considered a fair warning to bush about the importance Clinton and his admin put on al Queda?
September 10th, 2006 at 10:07 pmdlet,
Don’t even bother with Robroy.
He was an asshole to the Irish. He’s living up to his rep. now.
not worth the bandwidth.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:10 pmCheney and the neocons have shot their wad and they know they are running out of time. They had their chance and they blew it. The Bush/Cheney/Neocon legacy is the Iraq failure. You would think that a President who has cast his legacy in Iraq would try to win there rather than blaming the Democrats or Cindy Sheehan for his failures.
On Meet the Press, how many times did Cheney say, “I don’t buy that” when confronted with poll numbers or hard data that prove him to be wrong–wrong–wrong on point after point. America is sick of his shit and he seems to be the only one who believes it any more.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:12 pmIt is hardly the anti-Clinton hit piece depicted by ThinkProgress and other critics.
Comment by Exley
This from Mighty Aphrodite’s BFF. :P
September 10th, 2006 at 10:13 pmI just rewinded this in my tivo. The message is clear. Clinton hit the wrong targets. Then the news report of “wag the dog” is given to add fuel to the fire…as the American flag is burned and Zahari uses this as fire to add to his cause.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:15 pmtrueblue,
September 10th, 2006 at 10:15 pmThanks, I just wanted to ask the question one more time before I took off. I know he won’t read it and if he does he will probably pick one sentence out of the whole thing that will rationalize what he wants to think. Anyway. G’night all.
one of our comrades still is MIA, zooey!
September 10th, 2006 at 10:15 pmI’ve tried!
Exley it is a hit piece since they show Monica > that alone makes it a GOP swiftboat attack on Democrats!
September 10th, 2006 at 10:16 pmIs it the one, Zoo and true?
September 10th, 2006 at 10:16 pmHow are you? Oh…now I see, whos here. :)
Goodnight, dlet!
Keep fighting the good fight!
September 10th, 2006 at 10:16 pmJuan!
September 10th, 2006 at 10:17 pmSo what have you been up to?
September 10th, 2006 at 10:18 pmI caught a protest scene in the movie. Interestingly, they had US flags burning. Shouldn’t ABC should be fined for this? Where are the anti flag burners now? Oh, it is their entertainment. Oh that’s different.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:18 pm#69 Truthseeker,
I didn’t see the message as being that Clinton hit the wrong targets. It was simply showing that the Sudanese were CLAIMING that the El Shifa plant was not an Al Qaeda front, but rather a simple pharmaceutical factory. That claim is, of course, absurd. Clinton was correct to destroy the El Shifa plant. Richard Clarke also stands by the correctness of that strike.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:19 pmRemember flag burning was supposed to be made illegal?
September 10th, 2006 at 10:20 pmOooh! They’d be in some serious youknowwhat
now!
So what have you been up to?
Comment by trueblue
Look at your mail, Ms. :)
September 10th, 2006 at 10:20 pmBut everything is ok. How are things now after the acts for 9/11 memory? Inflaming patriotism, right?
Shown commercial free! Are they afraid of boycotts?
September 10th, 2006 at 10:21 pmYeah,Bob,and if they could get away with good old Monica giving
September 10th, 2006 at 10:22 pmhead to Bill in the film to make their point,the hypocrites would do that
too in a proverbial New York minute!
Question? How many references to “balls” are made in this movie? Is that the underlying theme? The adminstration at that time had no “balls” or am I reading to deep?
September 10th, 2006 at 10:22 pm‘“keep writing the truth as we know it†and what is that?’ – LiamNeeson
You know, the one where Bush ignored the threat, despite copious warnings, the deal went down with mostly Saudi hijackers, gave Bush his Trifecta, world on our side, defeat grabbed from the jaws of victory in Afghanistan when senior Arbusto decided Iraq was the place we wanna be, of course cuz of the imminent threat of WMDs or mushrooms or enforcing the Un scanctions or liberating Iraq or something, so we bought, bullied, bribed and chained together a coalition of willing lackeys and went a crusadin’, tore the roof off the middle east, created a terrorist nation out of thin air (and sand), and now Bush et al are schemin’ about Iran. You know, that truth, versus the one you see on ABC.
Any questions?
What never ceases to amaze, though, is that nobody seems to realize, much less remark on the fact that Clinton did NOT have the same mandate to pursue Bin Laden that Bush has. A big chunk of the nation, many on the right, were not supportive of action in Bosnia, for chrissake. While people wanted retribution for the USS Cole, we were a couple of tall towers away from a call for anything goes get the man’s head. And it’s a rather useful point if one tries to understand the actions/inactions of two administrations.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:23 pmYou were kind of vague, Mr. Juan. Details. Naughtiness!
That’s what we Americans like!
(Well, at least this American!)
;)
September 10th, 2006 at 10:23 pmJuan & true,
I went to visit Zoo Jr at college yesterday, and he had me almost coughing my lunch out of my nose.
Our waiter was a lovely young man named Brad. I decided I was going to flirt outrageously with Brad, since the restaurant was
mostly empty when we got there, and since I was wearing my favorite tight T-shirt. Flirting ensued…
When Brad brought my glass of ice water, it had no lemon. I told Brad one of my most favorite things in a glass of ice water was a slice of lemon.
He literally ran back to the kitchen, and brought out a water glass full of lemon. Sweet boy.
When lunch came, I asked Zoo Jr what was in his calzone, and Jr, not to be outdone by his flirting mother, said there was a little piece of Brad in the calzone, and it was too, too yummy.
That’s when I almost choked to death.
My Zoo Jr is his mama’s boy!
September 10th, 2006 at 10:25 pmHello Apple! Here’s the tree!
Why am I not surprised?!!?
September 10th, 2006 at 10:27 pmThat’s what we Americans like!
(Well, at least this American!)
;)
Comment by trueblue
Ha ha ha! OK. I didnt want to talk about this. Some friends and I just get together all weekends to play soccer and drink beer. We go to eat to a oyster´s restaurant where a friend works and spend time watching silly movies like Old School, Wedding Crashers, etc. I allow myself to be shallow sometimes. :P
September 10th, 2006 at 10:28 pmcaveat – illegal flag burning is only enforced when conducted by anti-war liberals
September 10th, 2006 at 10:29 pmJuan,
Shallow is an approved activity during thread hijacking. :)
September 10th, 2006 at 10:29 pmrequired,
I saw flag-decorated cupcakes at the grocery store today. I can just imagine how the right would feel about America crapping out the flag…
September 10th, 2006 at 10:30 pmAhHa!
The truth comes out!
An Oyster House?
You know those are known aphrodisiacs, right?
Are you *Sure* that’s all that happened this weekend?
;)
September 10th, 2006 at 10:31 pm#84 DeadMouse,
You are absolutely correct. The Congressional Republicans did not do well by the country in the late 1990s in criticizing and cynically questioning the motives of every Clinton administration military action and probably contributed to this nation failing to take the Al Qaeda threat seriously enough pre-9/11.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:31 pmYou know those are known aphrodisiacs, right?
Comment by trueblue
Only if you get turned on by salty snot balls sliding down your throat.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:33 pmIck.
Just stopping by to say goodnight–I probably won’t be able to check back in until Wednesday.
Primaries are Tuesday, don’t forget to vote, all!
September 10th, 2006 at 10:33 pmFlirting ensued…
September 10th, 2006 at 10:33 pmComment by Zooey
Your son must be an angel. Id have probably freaked out if I had seen my mother do the same. So, how went things with Brad? ;)
caveat – illegal flag burning is only enforced when conducted by anti-war liberals
Comment by required
so, required,
If I was an All-Out Southern-Type American; Don’t Mess With the Good ‘Ol US of A—
September 10th, 2006 at 10:34 pmI could burn a flag and it’ll be OK?
So, how went things with Brad? ;)
Comment by Juan C
My baby understands his mama, and knew I was just playing.
Brad blushed a lot and received an excellent tip!
September 10th, 2006 at 10:35 pmBush after the conclusion of part one on Eyewitness News:
September 10th, 2006 at 10:36 pm“I vow that I will not forget the lessons of 9/11″
Exactly what has the nitwit learned? How to continue to lie
with a straight face and continue to delude himself that we are
not onto his BS of concern for anybody but himself and his
political fortunes?
Only if you get turned on by salty snot balls sliding down your throat.
Ick.
Comment by Zooey
eeewww, Zooey!
Gross!
I personally don’t even LIKE fish!
September 10th, 2006 at 10:36 pmRemember me- the girl who lives on the ocean and hates the beach!!!
End of Part I….Nothing that could be considered ant-Clinton or as trying to lay blame for the tragedy of 9/11 on the Clinton administration. Looks like ThinkProgress leapt before it looked and wasted its time for week or so.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:36 pmYou know those are known aphrodisiacs, right?
Are you *Sure* that’s all that happened this weekend?
;)
Comment by trueblue
So far…dont need them. ha ha ha. :D
September 10th, 2006 at 10:38 pmOh my, been deflamed…. if you think this was wrong….. I can tell you where to get the white flags……
September 10th, 2006 at 10:38 pmI’m sure you don’t!
September 10th, 2006 at 10:38 pmLooks like ThinkProgress leapt before it looked and wasted its time for week or so.
Comment by Exley
Thanks, Exley. It comes on in 15 minutes, so I’ll be out of here by then, can’t wait.
(I crack myself up)
I am out of here in 15, though…
September 10th, 2006 at 10:38 pmOh wow, got a good rating…. lots of watchers.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:39 pmIck.
Comment by Zooey
There is an spanish plate called Paella. Its yellow rice with parts of crab, oyster, and shrimps. Its delicious.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:40 pmktul in Tulsa did the same thing.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:40 pmhttp://www.blogginleft.blogspot.com
Really good tooo…. lots of safon
September 10th, 2006 at 10:41 pmI’m sure you don’t!
Comment by trueblue
and thats your opinion based on…? :)
September 10th, 2006 at 10:41 pmThere is an spanish plate called Paella. Its yellow rice with parts of crab, oyster, and shrimps. Its delicious.
Comment by Juan C
I’m sure it is. But I get red blotches when I eat seafood, and I’m too far inland to consider seafood anyway. :P
September 10th, 2006 at 10:41 pmAnd, Exley,
Oh Please….
Shut you Trap!
Everyone around the world has said it’s crap.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:41 pmNZ said it’s libelous, our englander said it blamed Clinton earlier tonight.
And you’re sticking to the talking points? When did you give up control of your brain?
Trueblue, I just watched it. It is clear you have not. You speak from ignorance.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:42 pmand thats your opinion based on…? :)
Comment by Juan C
That’s it, Juan, throw in the hook and reel her in…
September 10th, 2006 at 10:42 pmAre people actually watching this movie? I’ve started my ABC boycott so it’s good-bye to this seasons’ episodes of Lost because I am forever lost to ABC.
I’ve lived 9/11 and if Bush had read the August 6,2001 memo which clearly indicated that Osama was planning an attack in the US and if he had acted properly and followed through by securing the cockpit doors, 9/11 would be nothing more than another date on the calendar. But no, he took a months vacation and then returned to do a photo op reading “The Pet Goat” for children and then sat there like a stooge while Americans were jumping out of buildings. The blame for 9/11 fits squarely on the shoulders of the Cheney/Bush/Rumsfeld Cabal. They are guilty of negligence.
Here is it five years later and we are no safer than we were 5 years ago. And Osama if he is still alive, lives his life as a free man and the women in Afganistan are returning to wearing burkas. And there is civil war in Iraq and Americans returning home in coffins draped with flags.
What have we learned from 9/11? If the country doesn’t take a new direction by electing enough Democrats to take back at least the House and hopefully the Senate. then democracy will be DEAD.
Me – I will fight… I would rather live free or die. I will not continue to live in this NeoFascist country.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:43 pmI like the news reports after the move.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:43 pmHmmmmmmmmm… backs up the movie
September 10th, 2006 at 10:44 pmI personally don’t even LIKE fish!
Remember me- the girl who lives on the ocean and hates the beach!!!
Comment by trueblue
Why not? Well, Im not a great fan either, but, true, if you have the opportunity to have to go to the beaches of michoacán in the Pacific Coast, here in Mexico. There is a little beach called Nexpa, a surfer beach, full of brazilians, aussies and americans (I think that will be better than the oysters for you :). Well, they have this delicious huachinango prepared with garlic, I dont know how to say pasta al dente in english, but instead of pasta put huachinango and instead of dente put garlic. Delicious. Thats life, that really is life. Damn.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:45 pmSpecial “Nightline” on following the movie in which both Richard Clarke and the counsel to the 9/11 Commission say that the Clinton administration (most specifically George Tenet) did indeed pass up opportunities to strike at Al Qaeda effectively enough.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:45 pmCoffins draped with flags…. Leave….
September 10th, 2006 at 10:45 pmYou speak from ignorance.
Comment by Exley
You might want to watch that, Exley, I know how sensitive you are to name calling. I’m sure you wouldn’t want to go against your own standards.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:46 pmand thats your opinion based on…? :)
September 10th, 2006 at 10:47 pmComment by Juan C
That’s it, Juan, throw in the hook and reel her in…
Comment by Zooey
I don’t need to say anything. And I think I will plead the 5th from this point on!
#116, 117 — RobRoy…This “Nightline” is excellent. It is referring to actual passages from the 9/11 Commission Report and is interviewing Richard Clarke. Both pretty much back-up the film.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:48 pmAnd, Exley,
September 10th, 2006 at 10:48 pmComment by trueblue
True, dont bother. Exley has already his mind made up, no matter what.
I’m almost tempted to meet you there, Juan!
September 10th, 2006 at 10:48 pmRobroy,
September 10th, 2006 at 10:48 pmABC is now claiming that Bin Laden continues to be a
continuing target of US military and intelligence but Bush himself
said he doesn’t think about him much anymore.
Any lie will do for corporate profit. Get your brain vacuumed out!
That’s it, Juan, throw in the hook and reel her in…
Comment by Zooey
What would Brad say? :)
September 10th, 2006 at 10:49 pm#107 Juan
You forgot the sausage and the chicken!
Carry on Guys, I’m'a watching!
Welcome back, True. Being exiled is the shits, isn’t it?
September 10th, 2006 at 10:50 pmLOL Exley did you and Robroy get paid extra tonight to plug the docu-drama on the TP threads?
September 10th, 2006 at 10:50 pm#121…Zooey…Saying someone who is critizing a film without having seen it is speaking from ignorance is not “name-calling.” Trueblue (rudely) responded to a posting of mine without having seen the film. Ergo, he is ignorant of the film’s contents.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:50 pmI’m almost tempted to meet you there, Juan!
Comment by trueblue
Oh, dont waste your time with me. Did I mention there are surfers? :)
September 10th, 2006 at 10:51 pmI know about Exley, I’ve seen his slime trail all over TP.
I should not have fed the troll to begin with.
(Talk about snot, Zooey!!!)
we all know about Richard Clarke, so it’s really just stupidity talking!
September 10th, 2006 at 10:52 pmJuan …Exley has already his mind made up, no matter what. …An ironic criticism coming from you, wouldn’t you say?
September 10th, 2006 at 10:52 pmCheney/Bush/Rumsfeld Cabal says that AlQeada hates us for our freedoms. My question is why don’t they hate Sweden, Norway, Switzerland and Finland? Don’t these countries also have similar freedoms? There has to be another reason why they hate us. It can’t be “our freedoms” because AlQeada has not attacked Norway, Sweden, Finland and Switzerland. The hate us because we believe that their countries are sitting on top of our oil and we are always trying to put our cronies into ruling positions in their countries.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:52 pm97- trueblue
so, required,
If I was an All-Out Southern-Type American; Don’t Mess With the Good ‘Ol US of A—
I could burn a flag and it’ll be OK?
_____________________________
As long as you don’t get caught dragging someone behing your pickup truck. “Caught” being the operative word in the south.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:53 pmRegarding whether affilliates have to show ABC programs: obviously not, or else that whole SAVING PRIVATE RYAN mess wouldn’t have happened. Remember that? Say, I wonder if this was a station that refised to show that.
But no, they could refuse, if they really wanted to. They’re just covering their asses and still promulgating this garbage. And I wonder what news Bush will be giving us in his announcement?
September 10th, 2006 at 10:53 pmOver the last few days, ABC cut a half-hour out of part 1 — presumably, in an effort to remove the defamatory parts.
Get (what I presume is) the New Zealand version (pre-ABC-last-minute-edits — I haven’t finished downloading it yet) of part 1 with your Bittorent client at
http://isohunt.com/download/13719971/path+to+9
… and compare it with what ABC aired tonight.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:53 pmPoor TrueBlue…Clearly embarassed that he got caught speaking so ignorantly. No proble, TB, I forgive you.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:53 pmYou forgot the sausage and the chicken!
Carry on Guys, I’m’a watching!
Welcome back, True. Being exiled is the shits, isn’t it?
Comment by Clyde the Ripper
You know Paella!!
September 10th, 2006 at 10:54 pmOh, man, I wanna eat a horse and I cant. I ate all this fast food sh*t all the weekend. Now I am drinking water and going to the bathroom every 15 minutes.
Juan,
Brad would say, “No Way!” not until we can ALL marry!
(What a great cop-out!)
Problem is, I don’t EVER want to marry. Everevereverevereverever!
;)
September 10th, 2006 at 10:55 pmI know about Exley, I’ve seen his slime trail all over TP.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:56 pmProblem is, I don’t EVER want to marry. Everevereverevereverever
And the world thanks you for that, TrueBlue.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:57 pm#93 Exley
Nice spin.
Truth is: the Republicans didn’t micro-manage Clinton’s terrorist threat activities because THEY were too busy spending $70 million on the endless Starr investigations.
It’s not as if they didn’t enjoy “criticizing and cynically questioning” everything they could about Clinton at every opportunity. Heck they still do. Look at the movie. But they had other fish to fry. Like GW said not long after we swept through Afghanistan – “I don’t really think about Bin Laden much.” You know, cause by then he had his eye on rockin’ the casbah.
Bin Laden, schminladen, I want the man who tried to kill my daddy.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:58 pmRobroy – I didn’t say I was leaving, I said I was fighting. Remember the story of the 1st American Revolution? Well, you may get to witness the 2nd American Revolution. Wonder if Germany will save our freedoms like we saved their freedoms. The French saved the Americans during the 1st Revolution.
It is treason to attack a person that questions the decisions of the president and Congress. (paraphrase Teddy Roosevelt, the greatest Republican President).
September 10th, 2006 at 10:58 pmAn ironic criticism coming from you, wouldn’t you say?
Comment by Exley
Im sorry, Exley. I have no respect for you since you said you support thousands of dead civilians by US forces all around the world. You claim to know everything about Chile (I lived there, my mom is from there), Iran (got a buddy from there), etc…and your opinions are based on your emotions, your fake patriotism. I was sad when I read that, really. I have a lot of friends who are like you (from the right) but I cant talk coherently with a guy who supports murder of great people my parents knew.
September 10th, 2006 at 10:58 pmwell said, Juan
September 10th, 2006 at 11:02 pmI don’t EVER want to marry. Everevereverevereverever!
;)
Comment by trueblue
Whats wrong about marriage? Isnt it a recognition of two souls together by the higher powers? :)
September 10th, 2006 at 11:02 pmI watched a real documentary about 9/11 over on CBS.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:03 pmCoffins, I want you here.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:03 pmI think it was just a misunderstanding.
(I hope)
Well, Juan, not only did I never say that I “support thousands of dead civilians by US forces all around the world,” the idea that the U.S. forces have intentionally caused the deaths of thousands of civilian deaths all around the world.
And am I supposed to respect your mocking the dead of 9/11 and your defense of monsters like Milosevic?
September 10th, 2006 at 11:04 pmNot.
Good.
Enough.
Disclaim.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:07 pmYet.
Still
Show.
No commericals or ads? Although ABC claims otherwise, it seems ABC sponsors wouldn’t touch this dreck with a 100 foot pole. Of course, no Nielsen ratings will just allow ABC to lie about how many people actual sat through it. Anyway, it’s been actually quite boring (which is a travesty to the honor of those killed five years ago – they deserve better.)
September 10th, 2006 at 11:07 pm148 Juan,
Was married once.
I’m better now.
I’m 40 years old.
It’s too late. But I think we should *live next to each other and visit once in a while*
*Kate Hepburn quote!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:08 pmWell, Juan, not only did I never say that I “support thousands of dead civilians by US forces all around the world,†the idea that the U.S. forces have intentionally caused the deaths of thousands of civilian deaths all around the world is, as you well know, baseless.
And am I supposed to respect your mocking the thousands of my countrymen and fellow New Yorkers slaughtered on 9/11 and your defense of monsters like Milosevic?
September 10th, 2006 at 11:09 pmNot.
Good.
Enough.
Disclaim.
Yet.
Still
Show.
Comment by irishamerican
Spot On, irishamerican!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:09 pmWell that’s funny…ABC news did CYA move right after the movie using stock footage of Richard Clark and others. 20 minutes of wasted tivo space.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:09 pmIt’s being reported in the news that 2 versions of the ABC/Disney phony docudrama are being shown > in all overseas broadcasts the uncut version sliming Clinton is being shown, but in the US a tamer cut version! Nonetheless former Pres. Clinton can sue ABC/Disney for slander for the uncut version, even though shown in other countries!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:10 pmAnd am I supposed to respect your mocking the dead of 9/11 and your defense of monsters like Milosevic?
Comment by Exley
Ok. One last time. I never rejoy on the grief of other people. Thats the lowest thing a human can do. I told you like 3 times I didnt celebrate 9/11. It was an awful day. If I were an american I would be the first one to know the truth about it: who the hell did this? And I would make them pay with justice. I dont care if it was a government plot, a bunch of fanatics or drunken swedish. I would want to know the whole truth and demand my government to release all the evidence about it to the public. My question that day was: who is going to benefit from this? Who would wanted to do this and why? You have your mind all made up about the incident. I am still waiting that the FBI releases the video tape from the Sheraton hotel near the Pentagon to see the plane. I need all proofs and you should too. About Milosevic…well, whatever.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:11 pmPissed Patriot,
September 10th, 2006 at 11:11 pmDisgusting move, wasn’t it?
Why are any of you watching this, anyway? Don’t you know what the word “boycott” means. It means DON’T WATCH IT!!!!!!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:12 pmJuan,
I’m surprised.
You advised me against taking the troll bait.
Yet, you took the troll bait!
Forget him!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:13 pmHe’s obviously not worth it, Plus, I was having fun talking to you. ;)
Trueblue – thank you. I’m staying.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:13 pmGOOD, Coffins!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:14 pmI never rejoy on the grief of other people. Thats the lowest thing a human can do. I told you like 3 times I didnt celebrate 9/11. It was an awful day.
Fine, Juan…I’ll take you at your word. But you need to document your statement that I “support thousands of dead civilians by US forces all around the world.”
You know I never said any such thing. Your claim is patently false and slanders the brave men and women of the United States military.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:15 pmIt’s too late. But I think we should *live next to each other and visit once in a while*
*Kate Hepburn quote!
Comment by trueblue
Im with you. Marriage kills passion or love. Its a contract. When were ever emotions and feelings following the lines of a contract? Never.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:15 pmYeah it was trueblue.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:16 pmSo, Juan,
We finally agree we won’t marry!!!
Whew!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:17 pmDarlene > only the Bush lover trolls like Exley and Robroy watched the phony docu-drama! I never watch GOP funded propaganda! ABC and Disney must be boycotted on everything!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:18 pmSo, should there be an uproar tomorrow?
Suits filed?
What do you all think?
September 10th, 2006 at 11:18 pm(Wow. All of a sudden I feel like a moderator!!)
September 10th, 2006 at 11:19 pm;)
Your claim is patently false and slanders the brave men and women of the United States military.
Comment by Exley
No, it is not. You say that if it was in the interests of US, you supported it. And I asked: So do you support the killings of innocent people for nothing but US interests? And you say yes, because all those causes were related to the crushing of “evil” revolutionary movements (regimes) threatening US. And that was a truly disgusting comment, that, by the way, would be the same argument that terrorists of 9/11 could have used to defend their actions.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:20 pmAll this marriage talk, why don’t you two just move in together and then decide ;) ? Marriage isn’t for everyone but is should be available for everyone that wants it. I’m married, most times it’s a great life together and then there are times…. If something happened to my husband, I don’t know if I would marry again.
Apologies – went off topic. Just wanted to lighten the conversation a bit.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:20 pmWhew!
Comment by trueblue
Who said anything about marriage? We were talking about oysters. ;)
September 10th, 2006 at 11:21 pmJuan…Again, you write something that is patently false:
No, it is not. You say that if it was in the interests of US, you supported it. And I asked: So do you support the killings of innocent people for nothing but US interests? And you say yes
Show me where I wrote any such thing…You cannot. But try.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:21 pmApologies – went off topic. Just wanted to lighten the conversation a bit.
Comment by Coffins draped with flags
Welcome to the club, Coffins. :)
September 10th, 2006 at 11:22 pmJay – I said my goodbyes to ABC and I never did like Disney’s Fantasyland. Hummm… fantasyland…. now I understand… this is just another show from Disney’s World of Fantasy. Unfortunately, the tragedy of 9/11 was reality and not fantasy.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:23 pmOh, Coffins,
Juan and I flirt amongst our posts!
Alas, he is some 10 years younger , and in a different country, which of course makes it safe! ;)
sorry if we inflict our special relationship here and there, but we are TP’ers just the same!
We mean no harm, just a chuckle or two!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:24 pmShow me where I wrote any such thing…You cannot. But try.
Comment by Exley
Lets do this again, then: Do you support all US interventions and occupations (landings)?
September 10th, 2006 at 11:24 pmDO NOT feed the troll, Juan!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:24 pmYes post 177 Coffins > I agree with you > Disney does fantasy only!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:25 pm**Please? For Me?**
(eyelashes blinking)
September 10th, 2006 at 11:25 pmtrueblue – I know and I understand :)
September 10th, 2006 at 11:25 pmAlas, he is some 10 years younger , and in a different country, which of course makes it safe! ;)
Comment by trueblue
Those are some tough words for such a nice girl. :)
September 10th, 2006 at 11:26 pmSo,
I do not have Tivo. I’ve heard you can give the thumbs down to shows via Tivo. (Therefore lowering their rating)
Can I do the same via my Comcast recorder? Does anyone know?
September 10th, 2006 at 11:27 pmDO NOT feed the troll, Juan!
Comment by trueblue
You know whats the problem, true. I liked Exley. Its like Obi-Wan losing Anakin.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:27 pm**Please? For Me?**
(eyelashes blinking)
Comment by trueblue
Who needs oysters with that? ;P
September 10th, 2006 at 11:29 pmTo Zooey, Juan,et.al., and the other “regulars”. This blog is NOT about your personal situations, I do not care about Zoo Jr., your favorite football team, your favorite food, the waiter, or any other irrelevant part of the trivial things you continue to put on this thread.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:29 pmAlas, he is some 10 years younger , and in a different country, which of course makes it safe! ;)
Comment by trueblue
Those are some tough words for such a nice girl. :)
Comment by Juan C — September 10, 2006 @ 11:26 pm
Oh! Sweetie! You don’t want me! I’m old!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:30 pmI love talking to you!
Don’t stop that!
When will this freaking war be over? When will all the coffins draped with flags stop coming home? I use to be known as Cats r flyfishn. It was a fun name. Unfortunately, this is not fun times. This November may be the most important election in our lifetime and we need to get Democrats out to vote for Democrats. Help out wherever and whenever you can. Help me get rid of the name Coffins draped with flags… it is such a sad name. When our troops are redeployed from Iraq, then you can call me “Cats”.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:31 pmyour favorite football team
Comment by Dyan
Its called soccer for you.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:32 pmDon’t stop that!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:33 pmComment by trueblue
Dont ever worry. You have a friend now. :)
I think that you can vote with your Comcast recorder. C & L has a posting about voting for tv shows. Check out Crooks and Liars for further details.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:33 pmOK, Dyan,
Then why are you on an OLD THREAD????
We don’t go to new threads and inflict ourselves!
This was 8:00——-
It’s quarter to 12:00.
That’s 11:45 for you……
F*ck off!
Don’t like it?
September 10th, 2006 at 11:34 pmDon’t go to a 4 hr old thread!
#179…
Juan, Are you talking currently or all time? If all time, no. I have said here innumerable times that the U.S.’s intervention in Iran in the 1950s was tragically wrong-headed — A dreadful mistake for which the U.S. is still paying the price.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:34 pmCoffins,
Thanks. I will do that tomorrow.
I’m right there with you – when will this madness end?
Juan, I know and I cherish it.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:37 pmHow Do I register my distaste for what ABC and DISNEY have done? I mean besides writing more emails that I know are never read,and making phone calls to corporate answering machines? does anyone have a plan?
September 10th, 2006 at 11:37 pmThe US support for the Shah of Iran was the biggest mistake that the US made with Iran. He was the US puppet and didn’t give a rat’s ass about the people of Iran.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:37 pmYou know whats the problem, true. I liked Exley. Its like Obi-Wan losing Anakin.
Comment by Juan C
You know what, Juan? I enjoy our discussions, too. That is why I am so disappointed to see you misrepresent me and my prior statements, even if it is unintentionally. But let’s see if we can resolve this…
September 10th, 2006 at 11:37 pmF*ck you. Like I said before, this is NOT about you. Get over yourselves.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:38 pmJuan,
I’ll talk you down…………
Do Not engage the troll…………
No……. no………….. ignore, ignore,ignore!!!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:39 pm#198…Agreed. And that support started with the U.S./U.K. intervention in Iran in the 1950s in a misguided Cold War action.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:39 pmThe problem that we all have here is that we are looking for mistakes each party has made over the years. For some reason we need an American to blame for the American peoples ingnorance to the true problem. We preach tolarance and sensitivity, when our enemy has neither. We sit here and blog our anger at our President of choice. All the while the terrorist prepare for their next attack. Will it be New York, LA maybe Colorado…I don’t know and neither do you. But where ever it is it needs to be stop, either by Bush or the next administration. Maybe if we stop bickering with one another and listen to all the facts we will realize that the war is with ALL Terrorist and those that fund and supply them. If we all focous our anger towads the enemy we might be able to win …..
September 10th, 2006 at 11:39 pmOh and Exley (who is apparently gone) about the troops. I dont hate US troops (I dont hate anybody, its a waste of time and life). In fact, the vast majority of veterans of any war hate war because they have seen what wars do to human beings: it degrades them to animals. So, troops have a best perspective about wars than we do. But if you make a choice about a job in the armed forces, you are participant directly or indirectly in killings and repression. They are the steel arm of a country who seeks world domination and contribute to all this war-like fantasy and society that US has built along all years. For example, what the hell has to do some flying jets with a sport event like baseball: nothing. But it helps to keep this fascination with weapons, war and power. And let me say this, if your power depends on the weapons you have, you are not really powerful at all, no matter how many nukes you can drop. The most advanced self-defense weapon in Earth´s history is the brain. No muscle, no claws, no poison, no jaws, but brain.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:42 pmGo to another thread, stupid!!!!
This is an ancient thread!
Go to the current TP threads!
No one is assaulting your decency here!
These people are here to talk amongst ourselves!
YOU F*** off!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:42 pmCan we get an organized boycott going? Maybe the liberal blogs can run something together? Set up a website and have people sign in to protest and then have tips on what products, shows, toys etc to avoid buying?
Please? Now that we have ’seen’ the movie and what a complete republican hack job it is … let’s do something.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:42 pmignore, ignore,ignore!!!
Comment by trueblue
You are sweet. :) I cherish that.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:44 pmjames the plan is to boycott ABC sponsors and to boycott Disney products, including their theme parks! Do NOT watch ABC programs and do NOT buy anything made by Disney!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:45 pm#204…No, Juan, I am still here…See my postings 195 and 199.
They are the steel arm of a country who seeks world domination and contribute to all this war-like fantasy and society that US has built along all years.
Ummm, Juan, what country are you talking about? Because that certainly doesn’t describe the United States….But anyway, let’s go back to #195.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:46 pmYOU F*** off!
Comment by trueblue
Hey, lady! Ignore. Remember? :)
September 10th, 2006 at 11:46 pmannburns,
I know FDL and Daily kos,…hmmm—
maybe we should try and get all of the sitemasters together?
Kos
FDL
TP
Crooks
Americablod
All Spin
Raw Story
Huffington
…. oh heck I can’t think — who else?
They all get together
Meaning WE all get together,–
September 10th, 2006 at 11:46 pmAnd do something REALLY proactive?!
oops, Juan!
**blushing**
you got me!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:47 pmannburns the boycott is just starting, so there will be information posted soon on how to punish ABC and Disney!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:47 pmTroll? Is that the name you call anyone who dares to call you on your personal sh*t. I wouldn’t care if this thread is 4 days old!!! Your tired ass personal bullshit is hardly what we need to hear about. You two-bit keyboard intellectual. Kiss my a*s!!!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:48 pmNo, Juan, I am still here…See my postings 195 and 199.
Sorry. It takes me some time to post.
Ummm, Juan, what country are you talking about? Because that certainly doesn’t describe the United States….But anyway, let’s go back to #195.
Comment by Exley
Exley. After the WWII who is the country that has invaded more countries in this planet? Please dont say they were all for humanitarian reasons. If you respond that those landings were made for US interests I will agree.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:49 pmJuan……
:(
No, dear
September 10th, 2006 at 11:50 pmI wouldn’t care if this thread is 4 days old!!! Your tired ass personal bullshit is hardly what we need to hear about. You two-bit keyboard intellectual. Kiss my a*s!!!
Comment by Dyan
Those are some debate arguments, Cicerus.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:50 pmJuan,
You, of all people, should know not to drink the water!
I make a mean Paella, and I’m not too bad at Ceviche, however I have a tendency to overcook the fish at times.
I never had enough Tecate to take the Menudo!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:51 pmannburns 206
I agree.
I say anything ABC or DISNEY.
I made a list of Ads leading up to the show on my affiliate. these sponsers ran ads 2 hours prior to the program. They will hear from me.
Smart Balance Spread
September 10th, 2006 at 11:51 pmBenadryl
Red Lobster
Transitions Lenses
Benefiber
IAMS Petfood
Macy’s
Smuckers
Nicorette
Mc Donalds
Bedmart
Jay,
Ann brings up a good point.
Get all of the blogosphere together.
That’s some serious numbers!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:51 pmjames thanks for that list > I always wanted to boycott McDonalds!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:53 pmWow you people are an angey bunch !!!!!! You Sound like you are using OBL’s talking points and you want to hurt American businesses in there pockets. You send death threats, much like terroriist do. You Plan attacks on Americans to push your agenda through. Please tell me the difference between you and the 9/11 bombers.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:53 pmYou, of all people, should know not to drink the water!
I make a mean Paella, and I’m not too bad at Ceviche, however I have a tendency to overcook the fish at times.
I never had enough Tecate to take the Menudo!
Comment by Clyde the Ripper
ha ha ha. Have you been here? Its bottled water. You are right. You cant drink water from the line.
Ceviche?? mmmm…are you trying to kill me, right now? I would die for some Ceviche. Speak spanish?
September 10th, 2006 at 11:54 pmtrueblue I agree 100% > we need a real boycott of ABC and Disney to hurt them badly > perhaps even to cause them to file for bankruptcy!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:55 pmPlease tell me the difference between you and the 9/11 bombers.
Comment by Freespeach
September 10th, 2006 at 11:55 pmWAAAH?
Jay Randal 221
September 10th, 2006 at 11:55 pmYou mean you dont already lol
#215…Juan:
1) You have noted my posting #195? Let the record reflect that I have said the U.S. intervention in Iran during the Eisenhower administration was wrong morally and strategically.
2) I would say the majority of U.S. interventions post-World War II was to serve U.S. interests. But I don’t think that simply because a U.S. intervention was motivated by self-interests is tantamount to saying that it didn’t have a humanitarian benefit. U.S. interventions in Korea, Grenada (don’t laugh) Panama, Nicaragua, El Salavdor served the U.S. interests BUT ALSO inured to the benefit of those nations.
Plus, I would say the U.S. interventions in Somalia in 1992 and in the Balkans in the 1990s were indeed humanitarian interventions and not motivated by the pursuit of U.S. interests.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:56 pmListen to you..you are all angery. much like ramzi Yousef before the 1st tradecenter boming
September 10th, 2006 at 11:56 pm#222
We are Americans!
Now you tell me the difference between the 9/11 bombers and the Terrists that invaded Iraq.
Don’t bother. There isn’t any!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:57 pmFreespeach > yes we are going to kick the crap out of ABC and Disney, but NOT for Osama! WE are going to punish them for foisting GOP funded propaganda down the throats of our children!
September 10th, 2006 at 11:58 pmWell you sure sound like Osma!!!!!!!!! Jay Randal —WE are going to punish them for foisting GOP funded propaganda down the throats of our children
September 10th, 2006 at 11:59 pmFact is; a republican was president on 9/11/2001.
September 10th, 2006 at 11:59 pmDon’t have time to read all comments b/c am watching right now–but 35 minutes in it seems to me the Clinton broohaha is a piece of mis direction to distract us from the even more sinister message. Namely–that American laws & the protection of civil liberties are preventing the “Protectors” from doing their job of keeping us safe. It slips in the message of giving up civil liberties.
Scene: Egyptian informer, Nancy the FBI woman and other FBI guys in a coffee shop. Shortly after they rail against American laws the FBI guy links these laws to the potential death of 250,000!!! Americans. And we see an AK47 ( or whatever) firing off. Like it’s a simple and direct cause and effect. Need warrents? Then 250,000 will die! Simple equation.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:02 amU.S. interventions in Korea, Grenada (don’t laugh) Panama, Nicaragua, El Salavdor served the U.S. interests BUT ALSO inured to the benefit of those nations. Comment by Exley
How could the killing of civilians inured the benefit of those nations? I lived in Nicaragua and in Panama. Haiti is the most occupied country by US in all history. Nicaragua is second. Haiti is first place in poverty in Latin America. Second is Nicaragua. Do you see a pattern?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:02 amGo to another thread, stupid!!!!
This is an ancient thread!…
Comment by trueblue — September 10, 2006 @ 11:42 pm
wow, true… kinda harsh…
i just got back here, so it’s new to me too…
remember when judd posted the IM site for such a thing?
you should utilize it… i’d hate to see you get “banned” again…
just some friendly advice…
September 11th, 2006 at 12:02 amJuan & true,
This is much better than I had ever dreamed it would be. Excellent thread hijack!
Dyan, get over yourself. This thread was dead by #15.
We dance in the face horror, and tomorrow we will grieve again.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:02 amFreespeech 222
Correct you are. I am angry for thge flagrant misrepresentation of history regarding a sacred day that repuglicans have already politicised to death.I am an average american who was not even political until I got tired of rhetoric like yours. so now I exercise my FREESPEECH however I can because it seems to be more and more difficult all the time.
Have another cup of Koolaid buddy
September 11th, 2006 at 12:03 amDidn’t you see that these people want you and the rest of us to DIE !!!!or live under thier rule …Which part of that do you not understand
September 11th, 2006 at 12:05 amBetter to “dance in the face horror”, that hear about your boring ass personal problems. Get it!!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:06 amBetter to “dance in the face horror”, that hear about your boring ass personal problems. Get it!!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:06 amJuan,
I’m outta here!
People are accusing us of being as angry as Osama?!!?
I’d laugh, but I’m frightened of them!
I’ll talk to you soon.
Oh, and this is for Dyan:
xoxoxoxoxoxo!
:)
September 11th, 2006 at 12:06 amThe film showed an attack against bin Laden being called off because Bill Clinton was preoccupied with trying to convince the American people “I did not have sexual relations with that woman,†and because his instructions to Sandy Berger and George Tenet were to avoid assassinations. Supposedly, that’s why Osama bin Laden wasn’t killed during Clinton’s Presidency: It’s a lie; it’s not documented in the 9/11 Commission’s report, which contradicts that. However, at least ABC did corrected the misspelling of “Madeline Albright†to “Madeleine …” Evidently, the executives wanted only intentional falsehoods in the film, none that would be so “unproductive†as a misspelling. (That wouldn’t have been professional; and this was a thoroughly professional operation.) So—perhaps thanks to “John in DCâ€â€”they caught that error in time to fix it, and did.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:06 amtell me pleas what was incorrect about what you saw this evening !!!!!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:06 amJuan & true,
This is much better than I had ever dreamed it would be. Excellent thread hijack!
Comment by Zooey
Well, I have to say it was all true´s great work.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:07 amBetter to “dance in the face horrorâ€, that hear about your boring ass personal problems. Get it!!
Comment by Dyan
Get laid, I’m serious…
September 11th, 2006 at 12:07 amI got over myself a long time ago. I realized that the world does NOT revolve around me or my personal problems. Hopefully, you will learn that lesson soon!!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:09 amOK!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:09 amI was going to go, but then I saw Zooey!
Were you there when President Clinton F*** up the capture of Bin Laden …He was president after all … and you all preach that the BUCK STOPS AT THE PRSIDENTS DESK …so why is it different for clinton
September 11th, 2006 at 12:09 amDidn’t you see that these people want you and the rest of us to DIE !!!!or live under thier rule …Which part of that do you not understand
Comment by Freespeach
Keep it up, you’re hilarious!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:12 amOK, we have a serious discussion going on that does NOT involve Dyan
(NO Reindeer Games!)
so, everyone else out there. What’s the plan?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:12 amNotice that republicans that are Clinton haters have to multiple post to try to up their numbers to be applied as democrat haters.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:13 amThese acts, lies and propaganda by the republicans should show that all they know is deceit. Can anyone tell of anything they have done that falls within the laws, constitution of United States and the agreement we have signed with the world nations.
If democrats let the right wing pull this garbage off and get away with it, we deserve to suck from here on out. They have nothing to offer so they constantly attack democrats with their lies, deceit and propaganda. 911 was over looked and happened on Bush and Cheney’s watch, and instead of catching Bin Laden they let him go when they had him cornered and waged an illegal war on Iraq. This illegal act of war on Iraq has killed as many Americans for Cheney’s greed for oil and power, along with the high rate of serious damage of around 30,000 young and brave American soldiers.
They claim that about 40% of our soldiers will have mental problems from the 3, 4, and 5 tours of duty, and Cheney has the stupidity to say he would do the same thing again.
Of course Cheney would, but he refused to serve when it was his turn in the vet nan conflict, Cheney received 5 deferrals or more so he could stay out of service.
Cheney and Bush are illegal President and Vice President anyway.
Now the news media ABC shows how right-wing they are. The republicans have been calling the news media and especially ABC liberal.
Dyan,
For your information, this was a deliberate act of thread hijacking. An act of purposeful disobedience. I notice you’re still here, and you are not commenting on-topic, so you are participating in this hijacking. Thanks for playing, Miss Prissy.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:13 amJuan,
Haiti is a wonderful place to vacation along the beautiful beaches, he interesting local markets, and the wonderful glimpses of local history and culture from the private islands owned by the Cruise Lines. Just don’t step off the little boat anywhere else or you will face the stark reality of true poverty. I have seen both and, truthfully, I would rather contribute to the improvement of the latter than enjoy the self-serving farce of the first.
Mi Espanol, mi amigo, es muy poco. Unless you consider the gutter spanish they wouldn’t print anyway.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:14 amJuan,
I’m outta here!
:)
Comment by trueblue
Hey, take care. And think about Michoacan´s beaches. :)
September 11th, 2006 at 12:15 amfree s peach ?
multiple free + peach ?
freesp + each ?
oh… a play on words ? …whatever…
you wonder what was incorrect?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:15 amstart here… it’s all there… should keep you plenty busy:
http://thinkprogress.org/?tag=Path+to+911
kisses and hugs to you too Juan. The reason I am so pissed that you would lower yourself to this personal shit is because I have always respected your posts and opinions.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:16 am#234
Juan, It is now after midnight here and thus it is now 9/11/2006 — the fifth anniversary of the day Al Qaeda Islamist terrorists under orders from Osama Bin Laden slaughtered 3,000 innocent men, women, and children.
Like the political candidates in this country from both parties who have agreed to suspend their political campaigns to mark this sad day, I have resolved not to engage in any political debates today. It is a day to remember the victims and focus on that which binds the civilized peoples of the world, rather than what divides us.
I would be more than happy to pick up this discussion on Tuesday, September 12.
Until then, have a good day.
Never forget the victims of 9/11. God Bless the United States of America.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:16 amFReespeech 248
You obviously drank the other glass of Koolaid I reccommended. Now calm down and Listen.
CLINTON NEVER HAD BIN L
September 11th, 2006 at 12:18 amReread your comment whattosay you are preaching your own retoretic. where are your facts ,,,do you just make this stuff up or pull them from the DNC ..your hatred blinds you to the real cause of the problems. terrorism has been going on for a long time and we will be next if you don’t take your blinders off
September 11th, 2006 at 12:18 amDyan,
For your information, this was a deliberate act of thread hijacking. An act of purposeful disobedience. I notice you’re still here, and you are not commenting on-topic, so you are participating in this hijacking. Thanks for playing, Miss Prissy.
Comment by Zooey
Hey, take care.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:18 amComment by Juan C Uh-Uh!
I’m invigorated now!!
I’m back!
God Bless the United States of America.
Comment by Exley
No, Exley, you always get it all f*cking wrong, because you’re an ugly American.
God Bless the Whole World, No Exceptions.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:19 amTo you trueblue, KISS MY A*S, beyotch!!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:20 amI have seen both and, truthfully, I would rather contribute to the improvement of the latter than enjoy the self-serving farce of the first.
Comment by Clyde the Ripper
You are a real man. I mean it.
Mi Espanol, mi amigo, es muy poco. Unless you consider the gutter spanish they wouldn’t print anyway.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:20 amAs long as you make Ceviche, you are doing pretty fine.
Osama Bin Laden survived Missile Attack because he postponed at the last minute a planned trip to the Camp
On August 20, 1998 must have been the luckiest day in the life of Osama Bin Laden when at the last minute, he dropped the idea of visiting and having dinner at his Harkatul Jihad Al-Islami military training camp in Khost, Afghanistan. If Osama hadn’t postponed the last item in his schedule for Thursday, the American Tomahawk missiles would have gotten him and some other key commanders during their post dinner Kahwa (Arabic coffee) in the open skies of Khost, 94 miles southeast of Kabul.
This is one of the operations Clinton had, but the right-wing don’t want to here of this. Clinton also gave information to Bush and his administration telling him that his biggest threat was with Bin Laden. But, Bush was to busy deleting and cancelling all of the pollution standards and safety features Clinton has put into effect for Americans.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:25 amOsama Bin Laden survived Missile Attack because he postponed at the last minute a planned trip to the Camp
On August 20, 1998 must have been the luckiest day in the life of Osama Bin Laden when at the last minute, he dropped the idea of visiting and having dinner at his Harkatul Jihad Al-Islami military training camp in Khost, Afghanistan. If Osama hadn’t postponed the last item in his schedule for Thursday, the American Tomahawk missiles would have gotten him and some other key commanders during their post dinner Kahwa (Arabic coffee) in the open skies of Khost, 94 miles southeast of Kabul.
This is one of the operations Clinton had, but the right-wing don’t want to here of this. Clinton also gave information to Bush and his administration telling him that his biggest threat was with Bin Laden. But, Bush was to busy deleting and cancelling all of the pollution standards and safety features Clinton has put into effect for Americans.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:25 amUntil then, have a good day.Comment by Exley
Thank you. Take care. About the rest of the post, I wont engage either.
God Bless the Whole World, No Exceptions.
Comment by Zooey
You are a role model, lady.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:29 am258 Clinton never had bin laden ? Thats because he didn’t have the guts to go in after him..You people need to calm down or focus your anger at the terrorist.. The worls is a dangerous place and people want to kill us …So someone please tell me when you are lying on your death bed praying to allah, are you going to be thinking maybe the islamofaciasts were responsible !!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:31 am265 are you telling me clinton had bad intelligence …is that why he didnt get him ….
September 11th, 2006 at 12:33 amWhattosay
Freespeech is not interested in facts, only in Trolling.
A lost cause. I only wonder if when he had his brain washed if he had it waxed too.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:34 am265 so clinton had bad inteligence before bombing obl …was it bad intell on the weapons factory ???
September 11th, 2006 at 12:35 amTo you trueblue, KISS MY A*S, beyotch!!
Comment by Dyan — September 11, 2006 @ 12:20 am
I’m sorry….
Did I offend anyone??
;)
September 11th, 2006 at 12:35 amYou are a role model, lady.
Comment by Juan C
You are a true gentleman, Juan. I don’t know why I try, people like Exley never understand a statement like “God Bless the Whole World.”
September 11th, 2006 at 12:37 amDid I offend anyone??
;)
Comment by trueblue
I don’t know how it could have happened. :)
September 11th, 2006 at 12:39 amGee tell me whattosaywhat facts have you presented here for me to follow…not one of you were There when clinton had osma surrounded. the only thing we have is the word of the cia and fbi and they help make the miniseries …..what do you know about the truth beside does it matter when a terrorist has a bomb on a plane ….is he gonna care that you didn’t like the miniseries or what you think really happened .why not focus on him /her being the problem
September 11th, 2006 at 12:40 amThose that got their propaganda fix off the ABC/Disney phony docu-drama have now come onto TP I see > lol.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:41 amNo, Exley, you always get it all f*cking wrong, because you’re an ugly American.
No, Zooey. Asking for God’s blessing on one’s country is not tantamount to saying that other nations are not entitled to His blessings. Rather, it is analogous to a person praying for the safety of his family. Such a prayer does mean that the supplicant believes other people are unworthy oof God’s protections.
Have a good night, Juan.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:41 amDon’t forget the lovely Dyan, who wanted Juan BAD…!
kisses and hugs to you too Juan.
Comment by Dyan — September 11, 2006 @ 12:16 am
(snicker)
September 11th, 2006 at 12:42 amYou people need to calm down or focus your anger at the terrorist.. The worls is a dangerous place and people want to kill us …Comment by Freespeach
Wrong. Anger has never been a solution to anything. Have you ever been in a fight? no matter what had happened, lost or won, you never feel OK after a fight. You dont solve anything by fighting. So, what US citizens need is to demand justice. Not revenge. that wont take you anywhere. The world is not dangerous, I just mentioned Nexpa, a little beach in Michoacan, its a beautiful place fill with americans, brazilians, germans…nobody hate each other. People want to live in peace, but thats not good for governments. Governments need to sell you the urgency of fearing faceless enemies so you support a little group of people getting rich due to your fear. Wake up. Your cowardice is embarrasing.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:42 amWhat an excellent program, and to think that I would have missed it if it weren’t for all the controversy that you progs stirred up. Thankyou.
Of course, I can’t get enough of those scenes of Bill Clinton’s zoomed in wagging finger during the Monica Lewinski scandal as the mounting threat of Al Quieda grew – and I almost missed it!
Aaaaahhhhhh, finally, mainstream media is putting together all the disparate pieces, so that America can now see the complete picture. I especially liked their mention of the many sub-Saharan African nations that are also tangled up in this – especially Sudan. One day, you will understand the larger implications of the islamo-fascist threat.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:43 amtrueblue, the only person I think you truly offended was your husband. the first time you disrobed in front of him!!:)
September 11th, 2006 at 12:43 amIn August 20,1998 Clinton sent a missile to a position that the intellegents say Bin Laden would be. At the last minute Bin Laden change his Dinner at his Harkatul Jihad Al-Islami military training camp in Khost, Afghanistan. If dinner visit was not changed Osama Bin Laden would have been history. Every time Clinton tried to do anything the republicans would bitch and say he was trying to change the subject. Bush had no interest in Bin Laden, just Corporations and their discounts.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:44 amWhat do you know whahhosay ..you wern’t there are you saying the cia is lie about surrounding bin laden … or are you spouting dnc talking points ….Is a terrorist really gonna care what you think when the next bomb goes off ….try focusing your anger on them not the people trying to stop them .all you are doing is makeing it diffulcult for those in charge and know more then you
September 11th, 2006 at 12:44 amMy goodness, Exley, you are such a back-pedalling wanker. You and Might Hag are perfect for each other.
Oops, the Hag ain’t been around much…banned?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:44 amYeah!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:45 amYou Go, Juan!!!
I don’t know why I try, people like Exley never understand a statement like “God Bless the Whole World.â€
Comment by Zooey
This world urgently need people like you and true. Dont you feel like adopting? :)
September 11th, 2006 at 12:46 amtrueblue, the only person you truly offended, was your husband the first time you disrobed in front of him (or her?) !!!! love and kisses
September 11th, 2006 at 12:46 amI ll try and tell that to the next terrorist I get to kill …ill hand him out flowers and say I need a hug not bombs …by the way rember PEACE THROUGH SUPERIOR FIREPOWER !!! Always works
September 11th, 2006 at 12:47 amisn’t it cute?
It tried twice to get my attention — changing sexes and all,…ahhhhhhhhhhhh
September 11th, 2006 at 12:49 amThis world urgently need people like you and true. Dont you feel like adopting? :)
Comment by Juan C
As if that’s the relationship you’re looking for…
September 11th, 2006 at 12:49 am:P
Don’t forget the lovely Dyan, who wanted Juan BAD…!
kisses and hugs to you too Juan.
Comment by trueblue
Well, what can you do? This body is a curse. :)
September 11th, 2006 at 12:49 am(Pfffft)
Jason lol the ABC/Disney phony docu-drama is fictional, but I guess you cannot notice the difference between fact from fiction being a Bush Regime lover!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:50 amPEACE THROUGH SUPERIOR FIREPOWER !!! Always works
Comment by Freespeach
Yeah, it’s working like a charm these days…
September 11th, 2006 at 12:50 amMy goodness, Exley, you are such a back-pedalling wanker.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:50 amOh, and Zooey, since your soooo into Zoo, Jr. and his/her/its’ college career, tell me, what is the tution at DeVry?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:51 amtrueblue, the only person you truly offended, was your husband the first time you disrobed in front of him (or her?) !!!! love and kisses
Comment by dyan
It’s disturbing how much time you’re spending thinking about it. How many times are you going post it?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:51 amtrueblue, the only person you truly offended, was your husband the first time you disrobed in front of him
Comment by dyan
Oh, you know, true. I need so bad to be offended. ;)
September 11th, 2006 at 12:52 amOh, and Zooey, since your soooo into Zoo, Jr. and his/her/its’ college career, tell me, what is the tuition at DeVry?
September 11th, 2006 at 12:52 amMy goodness, Exley, you are such a back-pedalling wanker.
Comment by Exley
I’m glad you agree…
September 11th, 2006 at 12:53 amWhattosay …I think bush had the guts to send people in after him ..somthing clinton never did …oh and where is this place you are receving about obl’s dinner arrangments I would like to see that for my self beside are you telling me they could have tried another day or why didn’t clinton send troops in after him …why didn’t he try to stop the funding of terrorist …OK so clinton sent 50 cruise missle and we missed have you ever herd of if at first you don’t suceed you try again…
September 11th, 2006 at 12:54 amOff to bed > bye all and do NOT watch the conclusion of the ABC/Disney phony docu-drama today! Time for boycotts now!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:54 am#283
“Back-pedalling” ???? No, no, my dear Zooey. I was simply explaining to you the rather pure motivations that underlies asking for God’s protection on one’s nation.
And I was happy to do so. You’re welcome.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:56 amI heard on The Path to 9/11 that freespeach is a terrorist.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:56 amtrueblue, the only person you truly offended, was your husband the first time you disrobed in front of him (or her?) !!!! love and kisses
Comment by dyan
It’s disturbing how much time you’re spending thinking about it. How many times are you going post it?
Comment by Zooey — September 11, 2006 @ 12:51 am
I need to take a shower!!!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:56 amAs much as necessary, beyotch!!!! Remember, this is AmeriKKKa, I have that right!!!!
September 11th, 2006 at 12:56 amSh*T zooey do you think we are using superior firepower ??? the only reason we arnt is because if we did you people will start chantinting America is a bunch of babykillers …if we did open up we could finish this a whole lot sooner
September 11th, 2006 at 12:57 amMy dear Exely (attending the “freespeach” school of spelling?),
I don’t need explanations from you. I’m surprised you feel you must explain yourself to me.
I forgive you.
September 11th, 2006 at 12:58 am302 No it said free speech is a tactict use by terrorist to distract the adminstration from dealing with them ..they learned from the like of you they could hide behind it ..much like you and the rest of you librals do
September 11th, 2006 at 1:00 amYou need more than a shower to wash the stink off your ass, you arrogant s.o.b.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:01 amFreespeach,
You advocate nuclear war? You do realize that you, and any children you may have, live on this planet, too? Surely you don’t think you will be immune to nuclear war?
September 11th, 2006 at 1:01 amOK, Zooey and Juan…
The freak machines have obviously followed us here!
I say let them eat their own!
…jokes to be distributed tomorrow!….
I’m outta here, because they are now simply being stupid.
Goodnight. Had a good time.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:01 amOh,and Zooey,you made your son sound like the biggest faggot on campus.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:02 amAnd I’m sure Brad wouldn’t have been interested in you since you’ve said you look like Maude (Bea Arthur).LOL
Goodnight. Had a good time.
Comment by trueblue
Be well, true.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:03 amtrueblue, you need more than a shower to wash the stink off your a*s. You arrogant (for no reason whatsoever!) s.o.b.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:04 amYou missed a great show!
I watched Discovery Channel tonight. Ted Koppel led a discussion on “The Price of Security.” Then they finished it with one of his TownHall meetings. Reminded me of the old ABC and Nightline.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:05 am#306, Actually Zooey, you demonstrated considerable confusion over a relatively simple concept. I was happy to explain it to you.
Oh, and by the way, Zooey — You are welcome for my response to your question posted at #5. I was happy to help. Of course, it would have been polite for you to say “thank you,” but common courtesy does not seem to mean very much to you.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:06 amTrueblue, BYE!!!!!!!!!!
September 11th, 2006 at 1:06 amSeems I Bush Sr. started this hartred toward United States by his war for the Saudi’s. Seems like the Saudi’s name keeps coming up when it comes to the Bush family and the Saudi’s
1991
September 11th, 2006 at 1:07 amThe first Gulf War occurs, whereby George H. W. Bush is determined to push Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait to ensure the Iraqi dictator doesn’t have a stranglehold on world oil markets.
Osama bin Laden urges the Saudi royal family to find an Arab solution, by raising an army on their own to fight Hussein. When the royal family invites the U.S. in to do the job instead, Bin Laden becomes disenchanted with the House of al-Saud.
His anger grows when after the war the US leaves 20,000 troops behind in Saudi Arabia. Soon Bin Laden makes a deal with the Saudi royal family: he is allowed to leave the kingdom with his fortune, and will receive funding for al Qaeda from various Saudi charities and banks, but in return he must not launch attacks against the royal family.
Bin Laden settles in the Sudan, aiming his ire at the US.
Goodnight, true.
Best. Hijacking. Ever.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:08 amComment by dyan
September 11th, 2006 at 1:09 amWhen did the virgins become so stupid? Get a life, moron.
No I am not advocating nuclear war!!!! we have alot of weapons to choose from, but i have no problem with using water board treatment if necessary ..or the outting of panties on ones head to make them feel bad..if my child dies because one of the basterds blows somthing up it is the falt of thoes who want to tie the hand of the american government . you liberals that want to run away from a fight we could win if we wre uniteded ….tell how is pulling our troops out of Iraq gonna prevent them from putting another bomb on a plane …If we are there the many of terrorist will go there. if they die there we will never have to see him again ..if we change ther they won’t be funding terrorist again …..
September 11th, 2006 at 1:09 amZooey,
We obviously have a stalker, since he is referring to June. (in your case)
He also has a little dick or else he’d have said something sooner to us…..
…hmmm…
Gee, Zooey,
who could have such a nasty vendeta against us?
September 11th, 2006 at 1:12 amOh, and by the way, Zooey — You are welcome for my response to your question posted at #5. I was happy to help. Of course, it would have been polite for you to say “thank you,†but common courtesy does not seem to mean very much to you.
Comment by Exley
Exley (I see you figured out the spelling of the name),
Since my question was not directed to you, no thank you was necessary. Miss Manners would dictate that pointing out another’s perceived poor manners is poor manners in itself.
Once again, I forgive you.
You know, Exley, you are such a pompous rat bastard, I almost like you.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:12 amHey Juan, having as much fun as I am?
September 11th, 2006 at 1:14 amSaw Part 1. Sure looks like Clinton’s fault. Part 2 will only affirm that 9/11 would never have happend had Dubya been prez ‘92-’00. Now what’s so hard about that for the Christian Right and NASCAR bubba’s to comprehend? Limbaugh, Hannity and O’Reilly will make sure that enough of ‘em understand by Nov. 6th. And their benefactors will help ‘em along the way with a few terror alerts just in case. After 5 years, ya think it’s time for the Left/Opposition to come up with a better plan?
September 11th, 2006 at 1:15 amif my child dies because one of the basterds blows somthing up it is the falt of thoes who want to tie the hand of the american government. Comment by freespeech
You know? The relatives of the girl who was raped and killed by Marines probably think the same as you. One difference: they did lose the child. But I guess thats not important for you. You are too busy being scared.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:16 amHey Juan, having as much fun as I am?
Comment by Zooey
Yeah, but the posts are posted (sic) late. :(
September 11th, 2006 at 1:18 amThis is fun.
Juan, your mama is a moron!!!!!
September 11th, 2006 at 1:19 amJuan,
September 11th, 2006 at 1:19 amYou have a child?
Hey, Zoo, true and all. I have to go. Have a class to teach at the lab. (Oh, sounds so important. Its not)
See you, later. :)
September 11th, 2006 at 1:21 amWell said, Juan.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:22 amOne day, you will understand the larger implications of the islamo-fascist threat.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
And one day you will realize that bedwetting Toryism solves nothing. This is a nation of laws, royalist.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:22 amFirst off i am not scared off the terrorist I am scared that the like of you will some how get into office anf Fu*k up the progress that has been made ….also being an american you should know that you are inocent untill proven guilty…i find it intresting you want to blame americans for that incident even though they havent been tried yet…. how do you know it is not propaganda by ther terrorist ..please tell me so i can pass it along to thoes trying them…. if it is true are you telling me that that incident represents the whole USA military…
September 11th, 2006 at 1:22 am#322….Actually, Zooey, your question at posting #5 was not directed at or addressed to any particular individual, thus indicating you were throwing the question out for response by anyone who had an answer….And I was happy to do so. You are welcome.
As for my being a “pompous rat bastard” … Well….yeah! What’s your point???
Actually, I am quite likeable.
And you have spunk. But, of course, there are many Lou Grants out there.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:23 amGood night, Juan. I’m outta here too.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:23 amJuan,
You have a child?
Comment by trueblue
Oh, no! Poor kid that one.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:24 amJust look who keeps meeting with terrors. Seems like the Bush’s family closes friends, the Saudi’s keep close contact with Bin Laden and terroist. Just think 14 terrorist were from Saudi and Bush flew the Saudi family member home from United States after 911 when no one else could fly because all the airplanes were grounded.
A couple of years before the attack of 911, A meeting of prominent Saudis occurs in a Paris hotel. Among the attendees is the head of Saudi intelligence, Turki bin Faisal. They meet with a representative of al Qaeda and agree to extend the earlier arrangement made between the Saudi royal family and Osama bin Laden – whereby in return for cash, al Qaeda agrees not to attack inside Saudi Arabia.
The CIA produces an internal report that documents the numerous Saudi charities that are funding terrorists. Osama bin Laden’s name is mentioned.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:25 amZoo, is that your nickname, or where you reside? I’m having fun too!!!!
September 11th, 2006 at 1:26 amZooey, perhaps we soud retire ourselves, since we have “Ycho- Psay” here?
P.S.
Zooey, do you have to re-enter facts again?
Just wondering!
September 11th, 2006 at 1:28 amI m wondering if whattosay is more intrested in blowing up the CIA instead of the terrorist
September 11th, 2006 at 1:29 amif it is true are you telling me that that incident represents the whole USA military…
Comment by Freespeach
I have a list of 180 US landings in other countries and a trail of thousands of civilians dead. How about that?
September 11th, 2006 at 1:30 amAnd you have spunk. But, of course, there are many Lou Grants out there.
Comment by Exley
See how you are? Give a compliment, and snatch it back in the same breath.
If Wayne & Jane can stand you, there must be something there.
See? I can do it, too. :P
September 11th, 2006 at 1:30 amShoot i take that back I mean most of you
September 11th, 2006 at 1:31 amtrue,
I have no idea what you’re talking about. Email?
Goodnight turkeys!
September 11th, 2006 at 1:35 am#341…Zooey….I was not taking it back. I don’t agree with Mr. Grant.
Good night all.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:39 amtell me more about these 180 landings and the thousands of dead…are you going to talk about the landings at normandy or iwo jima when tousands of americans died at the hand g faciasts and imperialist ….how the Americans fought to free the people of those countries or to protect our selves from other pearl harbors …oh wait im sure you beleive we made up pearl harbor…..how about the thousands of jew slughtered on buses or airplanes of by the hands of sadam ….should thoes people get a get out of jail free card …bitch at that. bitch at the other countries that did nothing while we stood up and fought for the right for freedom.
September 11th, 2006 at 1:39 amI thought part 1 was pretty good. Nowhere near the political slam job the nuts thought it was going to be. Pieced together an interesting story about the rise of terrorism and the hatred that exists towards the US.
September 11th, 2006 at 2:31 amI hear tonight’s exciting episode, based on a little-known section of the 9/11 Commission report, includes an action sequence in which Dick Cheney personally parachutes onto the fifth hijacked airliner in mid-air, beats up the terrorists, and talks himself through the harrowing landing. Then Chuck Norris and Bruce Willis team up to kick Osama’s ass! Yeah! USA! USA! USA!
September 11th, 2006 at 3:04 amWake up people. Change the station.
Yes, your corporate media system is *ucked, get it over it and find a new station.
Contrast your ABC with our CBC.
Regards.
http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/secrethistory/timeline.html
It’s a 2-hour show, the first 45 covers the Clinton years, the last covers 75 covers Bush.
The last 15 is especially damning of the Bush administration, suggesting they ‘LIHOP’ed at the very mininum.
Take action, start posting these legitimate docs to your blogs, families, and friends. Make DVDs, get busy.
You know, integrity and getting on with the mission and doing it right is more important than loyalty. Both are great traits, but integrity, honesty and performance and competence have to outweigh, in this business, loyalty.
General Tony Zinni – Commander of United States Central Command (Ret.)
September 11th, 2006 at 4:20 amBush lets silence fill Ground Zero – headline from Financial Times this morning
Just like that morning when he was told about the attacks, total silence and lack of action.
September 11th, 2006 at 7:38 amAbc is now off my watch list, probably forever!!!!
September 11th, 2006 at 8:12 amtesting…
September 11th, 2006 at 8:15 amFunny. I thought all that crap would be gone this morning…
September 11th, 2006 at 8:35 amProgs, progs (ladies, ladies),
How many more enemies are you going to add to your list? Hill’reh, Raum, Pelosi, Schumer, Lieberman, and now ABC? The list just keeps growing and growing.
September 11th, 2006 at 8:47 amthe film was very reflective for me. it reminded me of a peaceful time when the economy was good, gas was cheap, and we were so concerned about clinton getting a bj. now, we think gas is cheap at 2.25 per gallon. we are in a civil war.
some soilders have raped and burned a 14 year old girl. we are hated by the rest of the planet.
please bring back any clinton.
even if it is chelsea.
jack e. jett
September 11th, 2006 at 9:00 amhttp://www.jackejett.com
Hendler, add yourself to that list, for you have shown yourself to be a false Christian and a Fascist. The list will continue to grow, for a Light has entered the World, and the true nature of people is being revealed. You’re just too blinded by self-righteousness to see. And when you are destroyed by your own doings (and you will be destroyed) you will curse the Sun.
As you have suspended your faith, so too will your God suspend His mercy.
September 11th, 2006 at 9:10 am#353 – Jason,
Still waiting for you to “stand up for freedom of speech” and call for the broadcast of the Pres. Reagan docu-drama that the conservatives successfully got pulled from the air.
If you’re truly “pro-freedom of speech” then you’ll be calling for that show to be aired as much as you’re calling for “Path to 9/11″ to be aired.
September 11th, 2006 at 9:35 amThe sophomoric & jittery hand held cinematic “technique” was/is terrible. Additionally, the willy nilly fast cuts don’t help clarify any story telling other than make the footage look as though it is a gimmick laden shooting style from a first year film student. Nausea inducing. Had to finally just turn the thing off.
September 11th, 2006 at 10:12 amKTUL, the local ABC affiliate in Tulsa, broke in with beeps and a scrolling banner several times in last night’s broadcast to tell us that the dramatization did not reflect the views of the station or its employees. I was very surprised by this, and that single action almost (almost) saved me as an ABC viewer.
Too bad the station didn’t stand up for what is right and not show the film, and too bad that ABC didn’t pull it altogether.
September 11th, 2006 at 11:01 am#355 BnF, great post…..Good Morning and Blessings to all this day and every day…..Posting back to nearly impossible….What’s with the Judd and TP.?
September 11th, 2006 at 11:43 amI was always a bit distrustful of ABC…distrust’s accuracy confirmed…BOYCOTTING THIS STATION, AND ANYONE AFFILIATED!
September 11th, 2006 at 1:34 pm#354 – jack e. jett,
September 11th, 2006 at 2:48 pmChelsea is not eligible until Febuary, 2015.
I thought it was entertaining that by attempting to point out that the Clinton Administration did not do enough to stop the threat, these Rovain agenda peddlars actually just highlighted the failure of Bush and his boys to do anything–ANYTHING–to get the real masterminds behind 9/11, Osama most importantly. “I, I don’t know where he is. You know, I don’t spend much time thinking about it.”
I am looking forward to ABC’s future history projects:
“The Kennedy Assasination–Why Bobby Killed John, and What He Sought to Gain”
“World War II: The War that FDR Created”
“Watergate: How the Dems infiltrated the White House, impersonated Nixon’s Voice, and Caused Our Great Leader to Quit”
“George W. Bush and Military Service: How Bush Was Working Secretly Undercover While Supposedly MIA from Duty”
“Don Rumsfeld: The Most Brilliant Military Strategist Since Genghis Khan”
“Ann Coulter: America’s HeShe Sweetheart”
September 11th, 2006 at 8:48 pm[...] DC affiliate (WJLA) distances itself from Path to 9/11: Think Progress, DC - Sep 10, 2006 Tonight s movie The Path to 9/11 was produced by the ABC television network. The program has received some criticism for its [...]
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