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In New Zealand, ABC follows through with smear

on Berger. The network made minimal edits to a scene that has no basis in the 9/11 Commission Report or reality. Watch the video here. Other scenes from the New Zealand version of Path to 9/11 here.



114 Responses to “In New Zealand, ABC follows through with smear”

  1. Tobey Tall says:

    test test let me in



  2. Zooey says:

    Frankly, I not all that concerned about how that stupid movie plays in New Zealand.

    New Zealanders don’t have their heads as far up their asses as the sheeple in this country, and they don’t have to live with the fall out — unless somebody discovers oil…

    (Tobey, I see your test)


  3. td says:

    New York Post story says supposed “senior consultant” Kean never even bothered to visit the set.
    ——————
    The network hired 9/11 Commission chairman and former Republican New Jersey Gov. Tom Kean as the project’s senior consultant.

    “Kean was never on the set,” said Greg Chown, an art director on the film. “The only adviser I worked with was a former CIA guy, who ensured that all the graphics and documents we used were accurate.”

    Another staffer, who spoke confidentially, said the only adviser she recalls is retired FBI agent Terry Carney.

    “He’d never been on a set before and seemed flummoxed at times. He had no say in the script; he was hired to make sure people held their guns correctly and such.”
    ————

    http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/bill_sics_legal_eagles_on_abc_nationalnews_philip_recchia______and_jennifer_fermino.htm


  4. Zooey says:

    That poster is great, true.

    Glad to see you back!


  5. Jay Randal says:

    ABC and Disney Corp. must be boycotted by every decent person in America and worldwide too! Do Not buy any Disney products, NOR watch anything on ABC! They must be forced into total bankruptcy!


  6. trueblue says:

    Hi Zooey!
    Glad to be back. Talk about “withdrawl!”

    Things are going swimmingly over on the Cheney post, aren’t they? ;)


  7. Zooey says:

    true,

    Ah, yes, the Cheney thread. When the trolls start throwing around the “Clenis,’ youknow they’re worried — and jealous.


  8. HappySmokerUK says:

    The Path to 9/11 has just started here in the UK…It opened with a warning that some parts are fictional.


  9. trueblue says:

    Zooey,

    They have good reason to be jealous,

    I hear it brought down two towers!
    (all by itself!)


  10. trueblue says:

    So you’re actually going to watch it, Happy Smoker?


  11. Zooey says:

    I hear it brought down two towers!
    (all by itself!)
    Comment by trueblue

    Apparently Clinton’s penis is a most fearsome and all powerful beast.
    ;)


  12. HappySmokerUK says:

    @trueblue

    I’ll give it a look…Was just glad to see the BBC saw fit to post a warning.


  13. trueblue says:

    Happy Viewing!

    (have a sick bag ready!)


  14. osage says:

    I don’t believe this brazenly mendacious propaganda piece is going to do anything but show Bush Republicans to be the desperately unprincipled self-seekers the majority of Americans already believe they are. As far as the mid-term elections are concerned, this transparent creation of lies and denial of facts will motivate and mobilize Democrats, soft Republicans and Independents to vote Democratic in even greater numbers. The key to winning the mid-term elections is voter turnout. This movie’s purposefully treacherous rewriting of the historical facts leading up to 9/11 will cause principled Americans to vote for change. It will provide Democrats a “recent” tangible action they can point to that associates Republican candidates to Bush’s failures leading up to 9/11 by pointing out its malicious intent and calculated deceit. The deliberate and dishonorable use of a national tragedy that all Americans still remember and mourn, as partisan propaganda is a depravity Bush Republicans can’t deny. They have provided Democrats the means to defeat them. The truth.


  15. Zooey says:

    HappySmokerUK,

    Thanks for taking one for the team…


  16. Zooey says:

    OT:

    I just noticed I didn’t have to type in my Zs every flippin’ time I comment. Think progress!


  17. trueblue says:

    Hurrah!

    Neither do I!

    Hip Hip Hooray for TP!!!!


  18. trueblue says:

    So, who thinks they all file law suits tomorrow?


  19. Mickie says:

    Mickey Mouse’s Karl Rove, Zenia Mucha
    by Matt Stoller, Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 02:20:35 AM EST

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/9/10/22035/2310

    Zenia Mucha is the EVP of Corporate Communications for Disney Corporation, in charge of all media relations, financial communications, employee communications, and corporate positioning. She is clearly a big part of how Disney handles sticky corporate situations, including the fights with Miramax over Fahrenheit 911, where she sparred with the Democratic Weinstein’s for six months in the press.

    What possible incentive could she have for trashing Disney’s brand and losing money on an ad-free propaganda piece that helps the conservative movement? Maybe this incentive.

    Governor George Pataki insists he’s not thinking about the 2008 presidential race, but his denials seemed a little hard to believe with the sudden reappearance by his side this week of Zenia Mucha, the tough-talking political operative who left Albany in 2001 to become the top flack for Disney’s Michael Eisner….But friends say she’s planning a return to New York as head of Pataki’s national campaign.

    Mucha was Eisner’s protege, not Iger’s. She came into Disney’s empire in 2001, recruited out of New York politics, where she had enormous power as advisor to a very detached Governor Pataki, who nicknamed her the ‘the Director of Revenge’. Before that, she was Communications Director for a very nasty and effective conservative Senator, Al D’Amato.

    Eisner was a terrible CEO of the Magic kingdom, and he left behind a real mess. Wow.


  20. trueblue says:

    OK. This Is Funny!

    An open letter to GWB from Clinton’s P*nis!!!


  21. Spudge_Boy says:

    I hope the fact that My sig is already input means that Judd and friends solved their bandwidth/server issue.

    Did you guys see Joan Walsh on Bill Maher Friday? If not, head over to Crooks and Liars to see the video.

    Also, check out the trailer that is being shown in other countries.

    Did you spot Bill Clinton in flames?

    This thing is crazy. They are saying that ABC/Disney who never give anything away for free, are going to broadcast a movie that they shelled out $40 million for, is going to be shown globally with no advertising?

    How big of a loss is that in advertising revenue?

    What were Disney and ABC promised to show this farse to the international comunnities?

    Did the Nazis ever broadcast their propaganda globally? Gobbels wet dream eh?


  22. Mr BullTerrier says:

  23. S.D. says:

    Wow, Those Clips are nothing but GOP propoganda.

    Who’d have thought thet ABC could be more GOP TV then FOX??


  24. trueblue says:

    OK, Mr BullTerrier


  25. idlecrank says:

    Ummm…where is the scene where George Bush gets the “Bin Laden determined to attack in the U.S.” report?


  26. trueblue says:

    Idlecrank,

    That will be on at precisely the time Dubya interrupts with his 9-11 speech. :(


  27. katy says:

    i just realized this was on tonight… an ACTUAL documentary…
    i remember when this first came out, tho i missed it then…

    9/11
    Filmmakers Gédéon and Jules Naudet update their 2002 documentary tracking emergency personnel’s response to the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center, including new interviews with a number of firefighters; host Robert De Niro.

    right after 60minutes, CBS

    is this the one that the religious right is screaming about because it contains the F word?


  28. Heynow says:

  29. Zooey says:

    is this the one that the religious right is screaming about because it contains the F word?
    Comment by katy

    I’ll be watching that one, katy. Thanks for letting us know it will be on. I watched it the first time it was on, and I cried through the whole thing.

    The right was screaming about the f-word? F*ck the f-word! If I remember correctly you could hear the bodies of those who chose to jump out of the windows hitting the ground. Who gives a f*ck about the f-word?


  30. trueblue says:

    Really, Zooey?
    I don’t know if I could handle that.

    I think I’m going to watch the Ted Koppel documentary on Discovery.
    “The Price of Security.”
    …I don’t know after that… maybe catch up with some friends… ;)


  31. trueblue says:

    http://americablog.blogspot.com/

    “The Path to Mickey” from you tube.
    **NOT for the easily offended!**


  32. trblmkr says:

    Are there any protests planned for tonight in NY at ABC if they do air this crap?


  33. s says:

    I sent polite feedback a day or so ago to them about the propaganda film Path to 9/11. The “Note:” they add at the bottom is especially interesting and I believe an attempt to scare people away from writing them
    Here’s the entire email:

    ABC Audience Relations
    to me
    More options 4:12 pm (23 minutes ago)
    As you can imagine, we receive thousands of messages a day from our viewers and while we appreciate you taking the time to provide feedback regarding our programming, we are not able to respond to each one directly.

    We encourage you to continue to communicate with us!

    ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS:
    – Many of your show-specific questions can be answered on the ABC.com website:
    Go to ABC.com
    Go to the top and click on “Shows”
    Go down the list and click on the name of the show you are seeking information on

    – Answers to other questions such as show addresses, internships, etc. can be found in our “Questions & Answers” section:
    Go to ABC.com
    Go to the bottom of the screen and click on “FAQ”

    Again, thank you for contacting ABC.

    Note: The Company’s long-established policy does not allow us to accept for review or consideration any ideas, suggestions, or creative materials not solicited by us or our subsidiaries. Therefore, in the event that you have submitted such content, please be advised that the submission has been forwarded to the Company’s legal department for handling.

    This email has been sent to you from an outbound email account that will not accept inbound mail. Therefore, please do not respond to this email.


  34. Zooey says:

    Really, Zooey?
    I don’t know if I could handle that.
    Comment by trueblue

    Damn right, true. Every time one of those bodies hits, it’s our punishment for allowing this country to become what it is, and it re-affirms my commitment to get rid of the assholes in charge of this country.


  35. katy says:

    oh yea, true… i’d forgotten about that one too… sorry…
    i’m not sure i can handle either of them… i know 60minutes will be about 9/11 so i’ll see how i handle that one…

    *
    hey, all, earlier on the majority report repeat, i heard sam say that scholastic WAS STILL planning to send out those study guides, only they will be directed at the telling of 2 sides of a story (or something like that)… but, HUH ??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    that’s news to me…


  36. trueblue says:

    Silly of us to think they’d actually tell the truth, I guess.


  37. DallasNE says:

    I think that we all knew that the protests would go for naught. Tom Kean was slippery on TV this morning.

    Next Saturday night Nebraska plays USC and the game is carried on ABC. Do you realize how tough it is going to be to only listen to the game on radio? But walk the walk I will. Radio it is.

    Go Big Red!


  38. irishamerican says:

    Yopu can protest right from your living room:……..

    If you have Tivo, just “Down Rate” all ABC programming with the red “Thumbs Down” button.


  39. HappySmokerUK says:

    That’s us just had the fictitious made up crap (The Big Lie) here in the UK….Don’t think anythings being edited out here…This 1st episode runs 2hrs 40mins(No add break)…Looking at ABC web site, the U.S version only seems to run 2hrs 30mins.


  40. trueblue says:

    Is it over, over there, Happy Smoker?


  41. HappySmokerUK says:

    Not yet, 25mins still to go…We’re now at the warning Pakistan about the cruse missile attack on OBL.


  42. Wayne says:

    I smell lawsuit, and in europe it is easier to win against libel and slander:

    ___snip___

    European ‘Path to 9/11′ trailer promotes ‘official true story’ which falsely blames Clinton officials

    RAW STORY
    Published: Saturday September 9, 2006

    Print This Email This

    The European trailer for ABC’s Path to 9/11 miniseries, which is scheduled to air this Sunday and Monday on the five-year anniversary of the September 11 attacks, promotes the docudrama as the “official true story” and seems to utilizes nearly every part of it’s brief forty second running time blaming Clinton era officials, even though it isn’t based entirely on the 9/11 Commission Report and the network has admitted that “the movie contains fictionalized scenes.”

    The advertisement, currently running across Europe and other parts of the world, suggests that “one decision” by Clinton officials “changed our world,” and was spotlighted in a Daily Kos diary by a user named “STOP George.”

    __end_snip__


  43. what now toons says:

    Pinocchio caught lying The ABC 9-11 pack of lies, and now the lies continue, oh yeah, we will edit the thing for America, but still put out the same crap for the rest of the world?!! Give me a break, they just want to get this out as a pure propaganda piece. What’s next, the dvd offered as the un edited European version? Their real slimeballs.
    Tonight we shall see how much editing ABC actually has done, however as a filmmaker I am well aware that story points woven into the story are hard to fully remove, and some stinky residue always seeps through, and in this case, the falsification of history, that seepage would be despicable.
    History should not be rewritten to please the political party that holds power, this is the first step towards an Orwellian world.
    I am very disappointed that the Disney Company, a unique American company would give up it’s truly American values to support a partisan lie. The effect on the Disney brand could be devastating. To see my latest cartoon on this topic, go to my website and check it out.
    http://www.whatnowtoons.com/#058


  44. Mickie says:

    http://time.blogs.com/daily_dish/2006/09/the_rove_campai.html

    Next week, I’m informed via troubled White House sources, will see the full unveiling of Karl Rove’s fall election strategy. He’s intending to line up 9/11 families to accuse McCain, Warner and Graham of delaying justice for the perpetrators of that atrocity, because they want to uphold the ancient judicial traditions of the U.S. military and abide by the Constitution. He will use the families as an argument for legalizing torture, setting up kangaroo courts for military prisoners, and giving war crime impunity for his own aides and cronies. This is his “Hail Mary” move for November; it’s brutally exploitative of 9/11; it’s pure partisanship; and it’s designed to enable an untrammeled executive. Decent Republicans, Independents and Democrats must do all they can to expose and resist this latest descent into political thuggery. If you need proof that this administration’s first priority is not a humane and effective counter-terror strategy, but a brutal, exploitative path to retaining power at any price, you just got it.


  45. trueblue says:

    You know that scum that builds up along the edge of a lake?

    These guys are lower than that.


  46. Citizen Dad says:

    Judd claims to have seen “The Path to 9/11″ but he is LYING:

    “Nobody’s seen the final cut,” said Tom Kean, the former Republican governor of New Jersey and chair of the 9/11 Commission, of the film. “Only in the United States and in Washington could this kind of debate occur about something they haven’t seen.”

    Shut up and watch, Lefties. Your whining is worse than a sleepy two-year old.


  47. Robroy says:

    This is great, im going to disneyland.


  48. trueblue says:

    HappySmokerUK,

    No review for us?
    I was really hoping to hear from you after the show.
    :(


  49. katy says:

    oh… just thought of this… sorry off topic…

    did anyone see cbs sunday morning? …my lazy sunday a.m. routine…

    an interview with toby keith… didja know he is a life-long democrat?

    huh… whoddathunkit…


  50. trueblue says:

    katy,
    Me! I heard him on the Bob and Tom show a few years back, singing a song he wrote on the road – NEVER to be published – called, “I’ll Never Smoke Weed with Willie Again.” (obviously meaning Willie Nelson)
    Hilarious!


  51. trueblue says:

    recorded, I meant… sorry.


  52. paul lukasiak says:

    it appears that script changes were made… someone in the scene says “the President has approved ever plan presented for review”…..but think looks like it was looped very recently…. the lips of the person speaking do NOT match what was said….


  53. HappySmokerUK says:

    All the fictitious parts that have been reported are there in full(UK version)…Put it this way, if you haven’t read about all the made up parts…This does a good job of making Clinton look bad…Lets hope the American people see through this propaganda crap and do the right thing come November.


  54. katy says:

    i would!

    ha ha ha… but seriously, my biggest complaint about keith is his glorifying drinking… and to be honest, i just don’t listen to him… i think i remember him saying he’s quit, himself… oh well…

    hey, i think i remember he and ? singing that willie song on tv… i could be mistaken…
    where’s joe sixpack when ya need him…



  55. bones says:

    I love it when the republicans say stupid stuff like “You can’t criticise the film unless you’ve seen it”. Ok, Let’s use that thinking, I want to see ABC air a porno, because you can’t judge something before you’ve seen it. I want to see every R rated hollywood releases on prime time TV eventually because you can’t judge them until you’ve seen them. I want all those independent “art” and “political” films anbd all those “conspiricy theory” films on prime time because you can’t judge them until you’ve seen them. Idiots.


  56. trueblue says:

    Thanks for the update, HappySmokerUK!


  57. Jim says:

    #46: Shut up and watch, Lefties.

    Why should I watch? I’ve watched one scene, and it’s clear that this particular scene puts words in Sandy Berger’s motuh that he never said and falsely paints the Clinton administration as lacking the courage to go after bin Laden. Why would it be beneficial to watch this misrepresentation of what actually happened?


  58. trueblue says:

    DailyKos asking for help

    They need people to help locate reviews, rebuttals, etc. for their new site to coincide with the airing of 9-11 here.
    I imagine some of what they need we can get right here.
    Going back to see what I can do, just thought I’d make the call-out.


  59. HappySmokerUK says:

    This will give you a far better flavour of what it was like. Live blogging of New Zealand screening of The Path to 9/11 The NZ version seems to be the same as we got here in the UK.


  60. trueblue says:

    Thanks Again, HappySmokerUK!

    So, your analysis?


  61. Sharon Cox says:

    Tested…..LOL…Good afternoon, Zooey, Trueblue and all…Blocked out this morning…Back but not for long…Denver lost.Oh well!…Been to busy with the Resort stuff to weigh in even if I could of….BTW..I think this bunch in power is like a large algi bloom that poisons the lake and suffocates the fish.. Just plane pond scum all..Did see dead eyed rice and fat faced cheney for a couple of minutes this morning but turned them off…Watching Discovery chanell and anything else but 9/11, still on over load…Great posts…The one about Clinton’s penis was great….Something this old girl would like to see…Sniker.! wooooOOO

    Have you all seen the one about bush floating around on the internet lately.? ……G.W.Bush’s library was flooded this morning, when the bathroom flooded his 2 book’s were totaly distroyed. President Bush was devastated, he haden’t finished coloring one of them..Bush called FEMA for help but there was no answer……….Have a great day all..Blessings


  62. Citizen Dad says:

    Watch “United 93″> or any other drama or documentary about the Sept. 11 attacks – then tell me there was no “Path to 9/11″

    We are at war, people. Our enemies are dedicated and relentless. Our only choices are victory or annihilation. Quit whining and join the fight for victory!


  63. trueblue says:

    Jim,
    Really, I wouldn’t even bother with this troll. Discussion and Independent Thinking are not it’s strong suits…


  64. HappySmokerUK says:

    trueblue
    “So, your analysis?”

    To put it bluntly…Bollocks…You could understand a bit of fictionalisation on a subject that happened a few hundred years ago…But there’s just no excuse for it on something that’s just happened in the last 10-15 years…And on a subject this important.
    It makes it even worse that the people involved are still alive(most)…ABC could easily have gone to them for the true facts. But sadly it appears the facts were the last thing on their minds.


  65. trueblue says:

    That’s exactly what we were afraid of, HappySmokerUK.

    So are you going to watch tomorrow night’s Bollocks, Part II?

    I’m glad you’re letting us know what we’re in for… in about an hour… (shudder!)


  66. katy says:

    good one, sharon… thanks for the chuckle…
    i’m gonna see what 60 minutes is like…
    later…


  67. katy says:

    oh – “after tennis”…


  68. Zooey says:

    Sharon,

    You’re hilarious! We should take up a collection and get Incurious George a set of new coloring books — and throw in a new pack of crayons, what the hell.

    HappySmokerUK,

    Thanks for the analysis. Planning on suffering through another night of that drivel?


  69. katy says:

    hey true – come to think of it, it may have been on bob&tom that i heard that song about willie… i haven’t listened to them in a good while…
    just wanted to let you know… memory returns at odd times…
    :-)


  70. Who is John Galt? says:

    #56

    I love it when the republicans say stupid stuff like “You can’t criticise the film unless you’ve seen it”….

    Comment by bones — September 10, 2006 @ 6:15 pm

    It’s even more ridiculous in this case, considering Clinton asked for an advanced copy of this trash and was declined by ABC.


  71. bones says:

    We are at war, people. Our enemies are dedicated and relentless. Our only choices are victory or annihilation. Quit whining and join the fight for victory!

    Comment by Citizen Dad — September 10, 2006 @ 6:37 pm

    No Citizen Dad you are at war, we are aghast at your violent antisocial blatant genocidal mania.


  72. HappySmokerUK says:

    Zooey…I’m happy to say no :)…It clashes with the football (soccer)…But I may record it if I remember.


  73. Zooey says:

    HappySmokerUK,

    At least you’ve got your priorities straight! :)


  74. what now toons says:

    Forget the final cut people, it doesn’t matter, it’s already aired UN CUT in New Zealand. The Lies are already out there, What we will get will be cut, but we all know how communications work today. The lies will still get here, in pieces on the news, websites, they should have stopped it WORLDWIDE, but they’re too arrogant for that.
    http://www.whatnowtoons.com/#058


  75. John says:

    We are at war, people. Our enemies are dedicated and relentless. Our only choices are victory or annihilation. Quit whining and join the fight for victory!

    The right wingers just cannoty accept that we might never have had a 9/11 if Gore had been allowed to assume the presidency he was elected to, and had continued the effective Clinton anti-terror policies. (This confirmed to me personally by an ex-White House terrorist advisor.)

    And remember: two ex-FBI agents hired as advisors to the ABC travesty
    quit in disgust. That alone should let us know how much credence we should give it.


  76. HappySmokerUK says:

    I know this is a bit off topic but it does link to Afghanistan…Can someone tell me how the military know how many Taliban they’ve killed on any given day….When I watch the news and they say 34,94.54…etc were killed today…How exactly do the military arrive at these figures?…I can’t imagine they actually go and count them one by one.


  77. Osama bin Hyden but we don't wanna find him says:

    Hey Citizen_dad,

    You buy into that sh*t? Where’s the bogeyman? Bush don’t give much emphasis on ending the terror cells that launched 9/11… if he did we would focus on securing America (ports, borders), not grabbing a shit-load of oil from Iraq. What an f’in waste of our precious resources. Afganistan is falling apart, Bush is getting ready to cut and run in Iraq (true brother, just watch). I suggest that you give your 2 year old a good trust fund, b/c he’s going to have to bail out the US from its mounting BIG REPUBLICAN SPENDING DEFICIT. You’re fighting a war of Ideas with bombs dude… remember Vietnam?

    That’s all. May Allah bless you.


  78. bones says:

    Comment by HappySmokerUK — September 10, 2006 @ 7:35 pm

    They make it up Happy. The grunts count how many they’ve killed and report them all as enemy kills including the infants, mothers, and 95 year old arthritic grandfathers. Then command polishes the numbers and eliminates references to 2 year old insurgents and blind paraplegic Taliban terrorists and sends it to the political side of the White House who multiples the numbers x 20, adds the required “and we have captured/killed the Number 2 man of Al Queda” and releases the statement to a bleached blonde who got her job blowing a junior republican Congressman’s son from Podunk, Nowheresville, who reads it to the press while smiling and being overly “happy” because this is her BIG television break.


  79. Clyde the Ripper says:

    #78 Been Hyden

    We are fighting a war of VAST Ideas led by a HALF-VAST Presdint!


  80. Zooey says:

    Clyde,

    That’s priceless…


  81. Exley says:

    First 25 minutes on here on the East Coast. Riveting and well-filmed. Makes you furious all over again….And not at Clinton–not at Bush — But at the Islamist Al Qaeda animals who carried out this atrocity (as well as the first WTC bombing)…


  82. Clyde the Ripper says:

    # 79 Bones

    Reading your last comment, for some unexplained reason, brought to mind the Glory days of Baron Leone, Bobo Brazil, Sandor Zabo, Mr. Moto, Johnny “Red Shoes” Dugan, and, of course Gorgeous George (As opposed to Dumb George) in their heyday in the ’50’s. Each time they appeared on television, danm near nightly, it was the fight of the Century, The Civilized World depended on the outcome. The good guys always won, and the whole thing was crooked as hell. After the match they all piled into their carpool cars and raced to the nearest beer bar before driving to the next “Match of the Century.” Looking back I don’t think the script has changed much over the years except the bad guys win and then lie about it. Maybe we will get an honest referee next November and bring back the good old days.

    Stupid is forever. Long live PT911!


  83. Sharon Cox says:

    Great post’s all….Say I want to know if there are going to be any porno shot’s on Clinton and can I get one.? Chuckle! I mean if they can run this crap let’s have something good to look at..He’s only a couple year’s younger than me, what the hay..My last fling was 10 year’s younger..Ah sweet memories..Oops TMI

    C.D. Yep! we sure are in a war..Brought to you and all the rest of us for you’re enjoyment and bushco’s monetary and maniacle thirst’s for dictatorship….You’re we and my we are totaly diffrent…You and the bush bunch want too rule the world ( what ever is left after all the bombing and killing) for their oil and wealth…My we is the mouse in my pocket and my vote or impeachment patitions signed. My we has declared war by vote or impeachment on this entire administration, after that my we want’s war crime trials and prison terms for the terrorists in our own country.. You have a nice day now, ya hear, unless of course you had other plans..


  84. Clyde the Ripper says:

    Thanks Zooey,

    If necessary, I will explain number 83 to you. I am sure the names are unfamiliar to you. I didn’t drink much beer with them but Daddy and I bought a few rounds with our ticket money on Saturday nights, I suspect.

    I also watched a tad, being a Tad, at the local TV store while waiting for the bus home after the Boy Scout meeting. Damn, that was a long time ago!


  85. Zooey says:

    Clyde,

    An explanation of #83 would be a must. Boxing….maybe?

    Sounds like great fun…


  86. sunshine says:

    Movie’s a fraud no matter how you slice it. To fictionalize the most tragic event in the history of this country, is to not only denegrate the memory of our lost loved ones but to trivialize it into some fictional account of the reverse of what truly is “history”. Shame on these slanderous perpetrators of smut!


  87. Briseadh na Faire says:

    The points illustrated in the clips:

    Civil Rights must be eliminated, because they protect terrorists.

    Lawyers must be eliminated, because they protect terrorists.

    The terrorists are Islamofascists who will not stop until America converts to Islam.

    We must have a President and an Administration who is ready, willing, and able to, without hesitation, kill people and destroy property.

    Look for these points to be prominently featured in Republican Campaign ads on ABC/Fox through November.

    You can spot them in ads that push for approval of legislation permitting warrantless wiretapping; Bush’s “Military Commissions” bill, which suspends part of the Geneva Convention, allows various forms of torture currently banned, and allows hearsay evidence gained through such means to be used; as well as any ad generally targeting the fear factor and/or painting Bush to be a strong, decisive leader.

    Cheney may be right, the mechanism to guarantee Republican victories may already be in place. But vote anyway.


  88. sunshine says:

    The boycott is on – ABC – DISNEY – and ALL of those Invisible sponsors we have a list of – lol – and they thought they’d pull one on the american people by remaining anonymous….nice try!

    Dumbya’s speech will be another embarrassment for him, no doubt. He can’t get through three minutes of public speaking without making an ass out of himself. He’d make a great poster child for the loss of brain function following a life of alcohol & drugs instead.


  89. Clyde the Ripper says:

    Zooey,

    Those distinguished Gentlemen, to a man, were the pillars of Professional Wrestling in Southern California in the 1950’s when professional wrestling was “for real.” I think it was in 1948 that I watched at the TV store on the corner. In 1953 I bought our first family television and at that time in the LA area wrestling was televised at least five nights a week. I could go on for hours boring all of you so I will just go tell my dogs–they will listen but won’t understand any more than all you young’uns. Thanks for caring!


  90. bones says:

    This might offset some of tonite’s BS.

    You tube film http://www.prwatch.org/tbwe/index.html


  91. Zooey says:

    Thanks for the memories, Clyde.

    My dog adores me, even when I’m telling her I’m going to have her put down if she keeps shedding so much. Big brown eyes, just full of love…what can ya do?


  92. Jay Randal says:

    Do NOT watch the ABC/Disney phony docudrama > if you are already watching it then turn it off > it could have subliminal messages to brainwash children, so do NOT let them view it! ABC is hoping for a high turnout to watch it, so you help them by watching it > turn it off!


  93. Clyde the Ripper says:

    #89 Sunshine

    ESPN will be airing two football games tomorrow night. ESPN is part of the NAAHCP (no typo) (National Association of Ass Hole Corporate Panderers) and will be subject to the same boycott as ABC. While I will not refuse to watch the football games as it costs them money to send them to me, I will note ALL their sponsors and E-mail them all informing them that I will not pay my fair share nor buy their products as long as they continue to advertise with ABC/ESPN and thank them very kindly for providing my free evening’s entertainment. Where ever possible, I shall also mention the name of their most feared competitor. The plan is to continue this for every football game ESPN and ABC cover if I don’t run out of gas belore they do. All you all feel free to join me. I just had a horrible thought! If there is a NABB* that advertises with the bad guys then we are in trouble.

    * National Association of Beer Brewers


  94. banana says:

    After sending protest emails regarding the 9-11 program to the Executive Producer and Director of my hometown’s ABC affiliate I noticed that their email addresses were: @clearchannel.com

    why am I not surprised? I thought Disney owned ABC? When did Clear Channel take over?


  95. Sharon Cox says:

    Clyde, I remember…..Yep! I do and I remember most of the other good stuff then…Granny even took me to a few wrestling matches, she loved them..Also took me to Hollywood park and Santa Anita to help her pick poney’s…Those were the day’s…..Blessings


  96. Clyde the Ripper says:

    I know Zooey,

    We will just pretend we are Rethuglicans, drink their beer, and lie about it!


  97. banana says:

    REQUEST TO THINK PROGRESS

    Can you please provide a tally of all those corporations that paid for advertising during the broadcast of the Path to 9-11 on ABC so that we can send out letters, phone calls, and emails of protest that we will be boycotting their products?

    That would be great.

    Or if anyone knows of anybody doing this, please provide me the link. i want to get on that ASAP tomorrow morning, sending BCCs out to all my friends who will then be encouraged to do the same.

    Thanks!


  98. Clyde the Ripper says:

    Sharon,

    It is late and way down the list so I will tell you my Bay Meadows (Racetrack in Berkeley, CA) story. It is the absulute truth. I went to my first horse race with my Daddy and two brothers. I asked them how to bet. They told me to pick out the horse I thought would be first and bet him to Win, bet the second horse I picked out to Place, and the third to Show. I did and they did and (This part has a little poetic license but not much) they never took me to another horse race.


  99. Sharon Cox says:

    Yep!, me to Clyde…Granny took me a few times, said pick me a winner Sherry, I picked pretty and no winners..Then she taught me how to read the handi cap’s…LOL…..The odds were the same..When I was 15 I asked the big question ( no not that one) the one about who paid for all these pretty race track’s…She didn’t answer so I figured it must of been another sex question and no body wanted to talk about that either..She stopped going as often…..Blessings


  100. Clyde the Ripper says:

    Sharon,

    That same question is still unanswered today in Las Vegas. If everybody that comes to Las Vegas is a winner and goes home with a lot of money who borrowed all the money to build all the casinos and why? We live within 10 miles of the Laughlin, NV Casinos and 100 miles os Las Vegas. On our house-hunting trip seven years ago I invested $21 in Keno tickets. I won $1000, and they haven’t got it all back yet.


  101. Sharon Cox says:

    Wow! Clyde, I lived in Jack Pot Nev. for 5 year’s fished all the creeks and photographed all the wildlife…Only played the nickle machines and won often, before they went video. The old Baley machines were good for pay off’s, the progressive one’s..Kept my money worked at a good casino and left town with a good chunk of cash and went to Montana and baught some land…Did you go to school in California.?…..Plan to go back to Montana in a year, I miss it and the people…….

    Jay, I’m with you on the boycott and not watching any of the crap…Like troll’s I’m shunning them and going to keep working hard to get these maniacs out of office and in jail…….Blessing’s all


  102. Clyde the Ripper says:

    Sharon,

    High School and Junior College in San Bernardino, Bachelors and Masters at Cal State Hayward, Doctorate studies at UCLA (didn’t do the dissertation). Click on http://www.storytimedolls.net/critter.html to see some of my wildlife pictures. Click on Clyde for E-mail.


  103. Sharon Cox says:

    Another Wow! moment…..I went to high school at 29 Palm’s….No college, school of hard knocks after that. First job was at the Steak House at Knott’s Berry Farm and Walter and Mrs. Knott were the only realy good Republicans I ever met….With the exception of having to serve Richard Nixon a boxed chicken lunch at a fund raiser for him it was the best job I ever had…..It was small then and they (Knott’s) ate once a week at the Steak house and although they were up in years worked full time at the Chicken Dinner Rest…They were quiet, humble and kind people. Their children were terribly uppity and quite a bit older than me…..I still miss the great white sand beaches in Calif..Bet it’s not possible to see the sand any more with all the people..

    Great shot’s Clyde….We had a lot of those cactus blooms in Jackpot..Never saw a scorpion that big. Yikes!….Well, done enough hijacking for tonight…Blessings to you and you’rs.




  104. Tom Murphy says:

    Briseadh na Faire, It didn’t say, as they portrayed, “There is no room for negotiation unless and until America converts to Islam.”

    ABC’s movie “The Path to 9-11″ last night was extremely ugly. They lied about what bin Laden’s fatwa said.


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