Air America To Declare Bankruptcy, But Progressive Radio Remains Strong
Air America To Declare Bankruptcy, But Progressive Radio Remains Strong
UPDATE: According to Al Franken, Air America did not file for bankruptcy Friday. We regret the error. See our correction here.
Air America Radio will announce a major restructuring on Friday, which is expected to include a bankruptcy filing, three independent sources have told ThinkProgress.
Air America could remain on the air under the deal, but significant personnel changes are already in the works. Sources say five Air America employees were laid off yesterday and were told there would be no severance without capital infusion or bankruptcy. Also, Air America has ended its relationship with host Jerry Springer.
The right wing is sure to seize on Air America’s financial woes as a sign that progressive talk radio is unpopular. In fact, Air America succeeded at creating something that didn’t exist: the progressive talk radio format. That format is now established and strong and will continue with or without Air America. Indeed, many of the country’s most successful and widely-syndicated progressive talk hosts — Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller, for instance — aren’t even associated with Air America.
Radio giant Clear Channel is so committed to progressive talk radio that, this week, it will announce a partnership with the Center for American Progress and MSS Inc. to conduct a nationwide search for the next Progressive Talk Radio Star.
UPDATE: Air America responds.
If Air America had filed for bankruptcy every time someone rumored it to be doing so, we would have ceased to exist long ago; it may be frustrating to some that this hasn’t happened. No decision has been taken to make any filing of any kind, we are not sure of the source of these rumors and frankly can not respond to every rumor in the marketplace.
UPDATE II: Comments have been temporarily closed to decrease stress on our server, which is under load. We’ll open them back up when traffic returns to normal levels.
UPDATE III: Comments have been reopened.
While I hate to hear this, I feel that the radio format is dated. Progressives get their news from reading blogs and other online sources. I don’t have time to sit and listen to radio, AM or streaming.
Let the radio format go the way of the Dodo… let’s concentrate on more and better online media.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:04 pmJason M. Hendler, before you begin posting here, why don’t you make a call for the Pres. Reagan docu-drama to be broadcast?
You seem to think the radical-right-wing being able to show their version of history is just fine, why the double-standard?
By the way, didn’t Rush Limbaugh have a television show that flopped harder and faster than Air America radio? I’ll be nobody wants to bring THAT news up.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:05 pmProgressives get their news from reading blogs and other online sources.
Progressives aren’t the people that need reaching.
I’ve heard many truck drivers and elderly people calling into Air America claiming they’ve been converted.
We can’t cede any format to the right.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:07 pmthat’s too bad. hopefully they can keep operating into the distant future. they certainly gained lots of ground reaching new markets in the past couple years. I’m not a fan of Clear Channel, but their support shows a need in the market for the liberal format. They wouldn’t do it if they didn’t think they’d make a lot of money.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:07 pmYou’re correct about blogs but at the same time you are shooting yourself in the foot. The Repugnican Noise Machine is well-entrenched in radio. Look at Rush and Michael Savage and other hyena’s of similar background. We lose the radio wars and its just another method for the wing nuts to spew their venom without anyone to counter their distortions. Lots of people get their information from radio. It would be suicide for our side to not be a player. Not everyone has a computer and actively blogs
September 13th, 2006 at 12:08 pmDamn I hope Al stays on the air somehow.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:13 pmR.I.P., Air America. If it had been a right-wing network, this administration would have secretly funneled millions of dollars into it. Ya know, if they happen to do that sort of thing.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:15 pmI’m saddened by this. I’m going over to their website right now and joining their premium service. It’s the least I can do. If enought others did this, it might help.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:20 pmI’m going to go over to their website and join their premium service now. It’s the least I can do, and if enough others did, perhaps it would help. Put your money where your mouth is!
September 13th, 2006 at 12:22 pmWell I, for one, very much enjoy listening to my progressive radio on the commute to and from work…
As mentioned in the article, Stephanie Miller and Ed Shultz are HUGE without Air America (although I’m not crazy about Shultz’ show, Miller’s is HILLARIOUS).
It’s not dead, it’s just changing. Air America tried to be a single outlet for progressive radio 24/7 with brand-name hosts. That’s a tall order to maintain profitability.
Whatever happens to Air America, the “stars” on their roster will continue in some way, shape, or form.
Progressive radio, TV, and blogging, are all here to stay. Different niches for different markets in different mediums!
September 13th, 2006 at 12:23 pmnot sorry at all to know springer will go (my opinion, that was a HUGE mistake signing him) – i’d figured as much when sam seder announced that his show is moving to that time slot…
no way is AirAmericaRadio going away… no way…
September 13th, 2006 at 12:23 pm…
This is a sad, sad day.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:23 pmThat will leave the area with no radio voice against the right wing hatred. People do listen to radio in their cars and at work. This is a huge loss to the voice of sanity.
There’s no question that Stephanie Miller and Ed Schultz are the two biggest progressive radio stars, and they are on the Jones Radio Network.
The problem is – who would carry their programming? I have the (possibly mistaken) impression that it’s mainly Air America affiliates who are carrying these two shows. If Air America folds, what happens to Stephanie and Big Ed?
I hope Air America is able to survive, but it seems increasingly unlikely.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:23 pm“R.I.P, Air Amirica” may be a bit premature. I work for Northwest Airlines, a company that has been in bankruptcy for a year. We’re still flying.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:25 pmAir America going under is definetly a good sign that progressive radio is picking up steam. I couldn’t think of a better sign.
LOL
September 13th, 2006 at 12:26 pmI agree with Len at #3. The purpose of left-wing radio isn’t to preach to the choir, but to bring in converts.
Hopefully, syndication of some of AAR’s better folks (Maddow, Maron, Seder among them) on satellite or other stations will be the next step.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:28 pmI’m sad to see Air America on the ropes, but very glad to hear that Clear Channel is doing a talent search for progressives.
Mainly because I want to enter.
Hopefully this will lead to Sam Seder on my TV somehow.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:28 pmWould love to hear MIKE MALLOY again. God, I miss his show.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:29 pmEven though they may go under
September 13th, 2006 at 12:30 pmRethugs better not think that they are going to be any closer to victory in November…
If that happens, a lot of radio stations will have dead air if they don’t replace the programming themselves, such as syndicating Stephanie and Big Ed on their own. I doubt they’ll go anywhere in most markets just because of Air America… Not if the program directors at the stations are smart. :-)
September 13th, 2006 at 12:32 pmI’ll miss Al Franken, but that’s about it.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:33 pmMusic is better for the soul anyhow.
I dread the silence. I listen to AA a lot, and depend on all those voices. I hope something can be salvaged. Fingers crossed. :-(
September 13th, 2006 at 12:35 pmSome of us listen to Air America on our way to and from work.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:38 pmCan I throw my hat in the ring to be the Next Progressive Radio Star?! Can we televise it? Sounds like a great reality show.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:40 pmI just signed up for XM a couple of months ago! Crap! I WASN’T too crazy about Al Franken personally, but he had good guests. I liked Randi Rhodes and Same Seder. Jerry Springer sucked. If I got screwed by signing onto XM, and there’s no Air America, I want my money back!
September 13th, 2006 at 12:42 pmI’m glad to hear AAR is shrugging off Jerry Springer. What I want to know is whether we’ll still have Randi and The Young Turks.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:43 pmfor all the accusations that soros is funding AAR, now would be a good time for him to step up and do just that… not?
September 13th, 2006 at 12:43 pmor how ’bout you, ted? c’mon!!! here’s your chance to help again!
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Buford @ 1:
“While I hate to hear this, I feel that the radio format is dated. Progressives get their news from reading blogs and other online sources. I don’t have time to sit and listen to radio, AM or streaming.”
How nice for you that your life is so filled with activities that you don’t have time for radio, but I think you might be somewhat out of touch with a large part of society. I spend more time online than anyone I know, but radio still has its place. You must not live in an area where people spend a half hour, an hour, or more in their cars twice a day. You probably also don’t jog or work out, or have a dog to take for a half hour walk in the evenings. And while you evidently aren’t able to listen to radio at your job, many people are and do. Radio will certainly evolve, and XM, Sirius, and podcasting are examples of this, but a portable, audio-based format like radio will always be in demand.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:43 pmI guess I’m not surprised. As much as I love listening to Boston’s Progressive Talk, I felt that only Stephanie Miller and Ed Schultz had real presence on the radio. The others just didn’t stand out. Randi Rhodes, in particular, was too given to just ranting and I usually ended turning her show off after Ed Schultz left the air. I believe there might be some good talent out there but I don’t believe that Air America has found them yet.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:44 pmIf Air America folds, what happens to Stephanie and Big Ed?
There is a lot great Progressive programming out there now…some local some syndicated Bill Press…Peter B. Collins….Jay Marvin…Thom Hartmann.. I thnk stations will have no problem filling in
September 13th, 2006 at 12:45 pmHopefully Air America will find a way. This country needs to have a place for people too smart to listen to the right wing noise machine. those who will dance in the streets and cheer the demise (premature) of Air America only show that they are not in favor of a free country where everyone has a right to speak and also to hear their kind of politics. Why are Conservatives so damn afraid of Air America?
And for those who think that on-line is the be-all of political discourse, there are a lot of people, aka, voters out here who do not have a computer, can’t afford a computer or just plain don’t care about blogs. Do you want to alienate them?
September 13th, 2006 at 12:46 pmSome liberal gazillionaire needs to step up. Many people llisten to the radio and there needs to be a station like this on the air. Choice is always a good thing.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:47 pmBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 13th, 2006 at 12:49 pmThis is really sad for me to hear. I only hope it will not be going away completely! I live in Texas and we desperately need progressive radio on our airwaves to counteract the crazy right-wing talking heads. I listen to and from work and look forward to Randi Rhodes’ show. She’s phenomenal! Hopefully, Clear Channel will recognize a true talent in her!
September 13th, 2006 at 12:49 pmI don’t know why they had Jerry Springer in the first place. Firing Mike Malloy was criminal, in my opinion. He was the most honest and up front host on Air America. I actually boycotted Air America after they fired him.
As Air America gradually devolved into a front for the DLC I lost all interest in it. There were only a few hosts left who I had any respect for.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:50 pmgetting a left wing noise machine in place to counter the right’s is really the only hope we have in this country.
it doesn’t matter how great our policies or candidates are if we don’t have the medium to get our message out.
we not only need air america (although air america could be a lot better… getting rid of springer is a great start) but we need a liberal version of FOX News as well.
this is a step backwards, and it is frightening
September 13th, 2006 at 12:51 pmThe decay that started when Goldberg briefly took the reins is now taking hold. Canceling the irreverent Morning Sedition last Christmast just as Howard Stern was moving exclusively to sirius was the stupidest thing they ever did. They basically had the Daily Show on the radio 5 days a week and Danny boy blew it out of the water and replaced it with that weak Mark Riley show.
When they got rid of Marc Maron, I was angry for awhile, but got over it. However, when they got rid of Mike Malloy, I decided I did not care whether AAR survived or not. Randi, Rachel, and Sam will find somewhere else to work.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:54 pmI’ve been listening since day 1 in New Jersey. Radio is a very important format. It’s not just preaching to the choir but teaching and informing the public of stories not covered at all or slanted by the MSM. With it’s original lineup i was literally listening from 5am to 11pm.
Then they made some changes.
Right now in this transition period it’s a mix of good and terrible. I get to hear Armstrong Williams, a republican shill with a penchant for lying when sufficiently bribed first thing in the am. Then I get Springer who though a liberal seems to agree with every caller with a phone.
I’ve have to go online to get Rachel Maddow now and then from noon to 10pm its all good with Franken, Randi Rhodes and Sam Seder.
Back downhill after that with the Sattellite sisters intercontenental blab-fest.
I also just signed up with premium membership. I hope it’s not part of the bankrupcy settlment.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:54 pmI really enjoy listening to AL,
Randy, Rachel and all.
Rush proves that talk radio is a very important medium.
I wonder if anyone has done poling on political attitudes in markets after Air America had entered?
September 13th, 2006 at 12:56 pmLooks like Error America fans are learning a little lesson about economics and free markets.
Advertisers won’t pay top dollar if the ratings numbers are bad. That’s been Error America’s problems since day 1. Not enough folks are listening. The “bash America” format doesn’t get a wide audience. I think they’d get better ratings if they took their show to some of the Islamic countries. As long as Franken would throw in an “allah akbar” in now and then.
September 13th, 2006 at 12:56 pmso we got clear channels attention? cool. I elect marie for the Job and spudge boy and Worfeus and unbelievable
September 13th, 2006 at 12:58 pmI like Air America, but here in my hometown it has the WORST reception. I can only get it at certain times of the day, and in certain areas of downtown.
If they had better reception they’ld probably get more listeners. Even the Alex Jones micro-brodcasts come in much clearer than Air America.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:01 pmRush proves that talk radio is a very important medium.
too bad he became a drug addict, besides his hate-baiting style is going out the window.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:01 pmOh yeah, my local Rush Limbaugh providing conservative AM station is now carrying the Alex Jones conspiracy talk show (so I guess that shows that it’s more about the money than ideology)
Who knows, maybe they will carry Al Franken and Ed Shultz next.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:04 pmI listen to Air America sometimes. I do enjoy Al Franken’s show. But the rest of the “talent”? After Franken goes off the air, it turns into the ranting lefty network. Randi Rhodes, billed as the left’s answer to Rush Limbaugh, and just as unlistenable; Mike Malloy, now fired, the worst at ranting of the bunch. I’m as left wing as they come, but I have to say the stereotype of the ranting leftist is as accurate as they come on Air America. I prefer the BBC or PBS radio.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:04 pmThis is a huge bummer. I listen to AirAmerica every day in the car…there’s got to be a voice of the left out there if only to balance the huge right wing radio cadre.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:05 pmShoot.
I love it. I get to listen to AM1090 in Seattle all day long, and I know exactly what crimes the Republicans in power (and a few democrats) are committing.
I can plainly remember Al Franken saying he had been on the air for 1 1/2 years, and had not been accused of lying.
You don’t have to lie when you tell the truth……
All facts support the “progressive” positions.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:05 pmI like randi rhodes and mike malloy, we can still listen online right?
September 13th, 2006 at 1:07 pmThere has been a lot of internal and external sabotage at AAR. I commend those who have worked so hard with such good intentions. But the constantly shifting formats (sirius, then xm), the weak local stations, the pulling of favorite hosts like Malloy and the salaries for people like Franken and Springer couldn’t have been the best investment.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:08 pmI sure hope this does not mean the end of progressive radio–why are the big bucks with progressive tendencies so short-sighted?
[...] They weren’t good enough, they weren’t smart enough, and gosh darn it, nobody liked them. [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 1:08 pmSometing has been fishy wiht AAR finances from the beginning. Who was that execs name who kept saying they had enough money to keep operating for 3 years, then all these bills weren’t being paid and then this exec dude disappears while evryone’s wondering where the money is and how they are going to pay the electricity bill. He just backs out and slinks away with his tail between his legs and somewhere someone invested a bunch of money but I guess that’s run out.
No one there is happy with management, you here all the hosts make little remarks. They hire Jerry Springer, nobody likes that guy, I got nothing agaisnt him but he’s soooooo boring. One of the best talents they have there is Rachel Maddow and they keep screwing with her shows. They fire Mike Malloy.
When I heard that I wrote them and asked if they were TRYING to fail. I was joking…sort of. But now I’m not. I think they are trying to fail.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:11 pmI can’t believe that there have been 50 comments and no one has mentioned the somewhat incongrous relationship between the Center for American Progress and the right-wing media megalith, Clear Channel.
I am unable to cognitively process the statement that Clear Channel is…
I know that many conservative broadcasters will sell out their principles for profit, but it’s still hard to believe that they can be trusted.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:11 pmA nationwide search for the progressive radio talk star. That’s a pretty telling statement. They actually have to do a ’search’. LMAO.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:11 pmAnother “Victory” for the left/progressives?
September 13th, 2006 at 1:12 pmThe Young Turks have just announced that they are going to be the new morning show on AAR.
http://www.theyoungturks.com/story/2006/9/12/162149/915
This must be part of the restructuring. I hope this is a good move for them.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:13 pmGod bless.. go forward.
This is what happens when you sell out to the DLC and AIPAC, and fire the greatest Liberal voice in radio, Mike Malloy.
Hope to see a new and much improved network rise out of this, and if not that, some way for Sam Seder, Randi Rhodes, Thom Hartman, and Rachel Maddow to carry on.
To Hell with Al Franken. He’s part of the problem, not the solution.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:13 pm@muckdog,
You are a liar. Air America may not be doing well, but there is plenty of evidence, that it’s not having problems with ratings.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:14 pmThom Hartmann is the next big progressive radio star. I just move to San Diego from Portland, and Thom’s morning show is what I miss the most. I love it when he fills in for Randi or Sam, but he needs to be a star all his own. He’s level, insightful, analytical, rational, and SMART! He’s not inflammatory the way Randi Rhodes or Mike Malloy are, and he doesn’t try too hard to be funny like Seder (who I do like). I want Hartmann to run for office, but if not, a nationally syndicated radio AND TV show are the next best thing.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:15 pmWE NEED TO SUPPORT THE TALENT — NOT MANAGEMENT AT AAR:
I think the issue of the management filing bankruptcy comes down to a couple of important issues that go beyond the talent of Air America: Recently, a defense contractor sued AAR and the Randi Rhodes show for libel (Randi won her case) which extremely expensive. Then you have what seems to be management with little radio experience and marketing.
I agree we need Progressive Talk to counter the right wing blow hards who litter the AM frequencies. AAR has helped organize progressive bloggers. It’s given liberal and progressive bloggers a national forum. Yesterday, Randi had Amy Goodman on her show promoting Amy’s new book. Host like Randi, Sam and Laura Flanders understand that the network can bring a lot of us together and give voice to many in the country who feel isolated.
I also think Randi, Sam and others were instrumental in helping with the Lamont victory — so don’t write off AAR or the medium of progressive radio as useless. Just look at the frightening corporatized re-writing of history in last weekends, “Path to 911″. Where else other then Pacifica radio, AAR and the blogs would you get the real story.
Randi Rhodes from what I understand is actually on loan from Clear Channel, where she ruled the South Florida airwares, beating Limbaugh badly in the 90’s. Let’s hope that maybe Clear Channel wisens up and gives Randi a fully funded syndicated national show. If you watch the C-Span Q&A interview with Randi, when she was beating Limbaugh in the ratings in South Florida, Clear Channel would not risk the business lost of revenue if they syndicated her. So they gave her the freedom to go shop. Maybe now that’s she’s a proven commodity, they will give her the 500+ station syndication she deserves, along with Sam Sedar and Mike Malloy.
Clear Channel and the big evil radio empires don’t care what’s on the air. All they care is if it makes money. Progressive talk has proven it can survive commercially, with the right management, so let’s hope this new hitch with AAR, won’t silence the talent, but hopefully expand their possibilites.
Best of Luck to you Sam, Randi, Laura and Mike.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:15 pmBankrucy doesn’t mean folding or going off the air- One advantage is they will get out of the LOUSY exclusive XM contract. NO ONE knows enough details of the restructuring to comment on ANY detail.
One can assume the hosts with ratings will stay those who don’t won’t. (Employment contracts will be invalidated.)
All that said I think AAR needs a passionate visionary dynamic leader with a great promotional ability.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:16 pmBill O’Rielly will mostly likely open up his show with this story.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:16 pmIf Air America, as an organization, goes under, it does not mean that the individual shows/talent will be gone. The good ones will be picked up by other organizations, such as those involved with the Ed Schultz or Stephanie Miller shows, and may become stronger. This is a natural and healthy evolution. Now, if ALL progressive talk just disappears, we should be concerned. I remember Chrysler going bankrupt and reorganizing, then creating the mini-van which turned them around financially. If Air America reorganizes and finds the right talent and format (product) then they may become a stronger force.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:17 pmAs a broadcaster myself, I have been disappointed in the overall way that the programming has been handled. There is definite talent at AA, but there have been major flaws in some of the timeslots and scheduling.
In particular, the AM show has been extraordinarily weak. It isn’t just the talent, but the way the show is produced. In AM drive, for example, if somebody has just 10 minutes in their car to listen, how sad is it when that period of time has to include the Kent Jones sports report? Benchmarks for a progressive talk format should be elements you can’t find in any other format. Mark & Mark’s biggest flaw (or more correctly, the flaw of their program director) was scheduling entertainment interviews that often had little to do with progressive politics. With all the high-profile morning shows to choose from, why would somebody listen to AA in the morning for an entertainment interview?
At any rate, a good friend of mine works there and I am just concerned that his job is safe. No matter the flaws, AA is something we need to root for and support.
http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com
September 13th, 2006 at 1:17 pmWhoever the next “star” is of progressive radio, he/she needs to be someone that isn’t afraid to tackle the issues and facts that really affect America.
The Democrats have too long tip-toed through serious issues, and now is the time to quit the tip-toeing, and stomp into the realm of the Neo-conservatives and religious-right Evangelical movement that are attempting to take over America. Being controversial isn’t necessarily being wrong – and someone that can capture the imagination of a population that for far too long, has heard a mediocre stance on several important issues that must be addressed.
We need someone that is unafraid of the opposition and has the ability to speak in a clear and firm voice that will rivet the listeners – not bore them with the same old rhetoric! I know he/she is out there, I just hope they find that person who will act as a catalyst in the movement to rid our country of the Neo-cons and make the Evangelical Christians’ ultimate mission known to all who listen so America will actually be aware of what we are fighting, and how to succeed!
William Cormier
September 13th, 2006 at 1:20 pmHow about Keith Olbermann and Air America?
September 13th, 2006 at 1:21 pmI stopped listening to AAR after a**hole Danny Goldberg cancelled the Morning Sedition show with Marc Maron and Mark Riley. That was the best morning show I had ever heard.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:22 pmCome on TP… I could go to a Republican sight if I wanted my intelligence to be insulted.
The bankruptcy of the leading progressive radio outlet is not a sign of strength for progressive radio!
This is not a hopeful occurrence… but quite the opposite.
Let’s just say this is a sad day for the progressive movement… we are down but not out… if we are to succeed we will have to work not only harder but also smarter.
There is a lesson to be learned here… and it is not everything is fine… we’re doing everything right!
September 13th, 2006 at 1:23 pmI’m surprised it’s lasted this long, how many stations are left carrying it, 3-4?
September 13th, 2006 at 1:24 pmBest news so far today!
September 13th, 2006 at 1:25 pmWhy don’t they just steal more money from the boys and girls clubs?
September 13th, 2006 at 1:25 pmI don’t understand why AA is going bankrupt?
Well, it’s a shame. I’ve listened to AA ever since it started but very seldom anymore. I used to be able to crank it up on the computer and listen as I worked, RealPlayer didn’t seem to use enough bandwidth to
September 13th, 2006 at 1:26 pmkeep me from doing other online things on the computer, then it seemed to change and I couldn’t get it
to work. OK try the radio – Cincinnati started carrying some progressive shows and I was able to get Al’s show and then Ed Schultz ( my fave ) but no more. Cincy changed the channel where they carried the
shows and since I live 60 miles from Cincy I can no longer get the shows very clearly.
I miss listening to Randi and Ed especially. Al’s show is not that great IMO unless he has good
interviews like Tom Oliphant or Larry O’Donnell, but in general his show is awful, just boring.
If progressive radio is to have a future they need to get control of some radio stations and get
the better programs out there – Randi, Ed, Rachel …….. all need to be heard. Unfortunately in my area
the only option for talk is from Louisville which only carries blow hard conservatives. As far as I know
progressives have nothing in that area of millions of people. Progressives Come on Pony up and buy
some stations and get serious about communicating the message.
Good Ridance, more room on the dial for Salsa music!
September 13th, 2006 at 1:27 pmWhat a shame…I’m sure this is Bush’s fault too.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:29 pmLOL, GREAT NEWS
September 13th, 2006 at 1:29 pmToday, Air (anti) America; tomorrow Keith Odormann’s gameshow Meltdown. Are some people still unable to draw the proper conclusion from both events?
September 13th, 2006 at 1:31 pmIt’s Bush’s fault. Heh, heh, heh.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:31 pmFunny thing about the Market….people vote in radio with their dials. Maybe listening to a bunch of hyperbolic liberals calling Bush names doesn’t make for good radio. Al Franken? Hack. The ugly chick from that movie with Uma Therman? Hack. If there was really a demand for this kind of crap, Air America wouldn’t be filing bankruptcy. You went into the marketplace and lost. Deal with it.
I have no problem with “progressive” (which is just fancy cocktail party code for LIBERAL) talk…but the host has to keep in mind the majority of his audience is going to be hostile ideologically and perhaps bomb throwing might turn off listeners?
September 13th, 2006 at 1:32 pmGood riddance for Ed Schultz, the Democrats answer to Rush Limbaugh. Just as bombastic and up on pro Football, Ed should be hired opposite Rush on an EIB Hannity and Colmes format.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:32 pmWhy doesn’t George Soros just write them and check
and bail them out????
Georgy’s “progressive.. left leaning” lawyers and accountants make sure he doesn’t have to pay any taxes so there should be lots “left” for great causes like Air America.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:33 pmI had no idea one could file for intellectual bankruptcy. But if any one could, Air America qualifies.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:33 pmTheir new name is OFF THE AIR AMERICA. You can’t preach gloom and doom and expect to survive. There are only so many :Black Helicopter” theories that you come up with. They just ran out of helicopters.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:34 pmI wonder how much “K” street has to do with steering advertisers away from Air America. It seems like it would be a cheap ad buy for automobiles and stuff. Unfortunately, we’ll probably never know.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:35 pmThe radio isn’t about ideology, it’s about entertainment and selling advertising. If you’re serious and what to learn about something, you’ll hopefully go elsewhere. But if you’re just looking for some cheerful distraction in between exits, that’s what radio is for. Limbaugh could do the exact same show from a liberal perspective and he’d be just as successful. Too many people in radio think they’re out to save the world and it’s beneath them to even consider such a possibility. The smart ones know better, and they’re more successful because of it.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:35 pmIt’s no surprise “Air America” is going down in flames. You’s have to be crazy to spend THAT much money on a pair of basketball shoes! They don’t really make you jump any higher…and they smell.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:36 pmOh well, there goes Al Qaeda’s voice on our air waves…how long ’till Al Jazeera gets a hold of ABC??
September 13th, 2006 at 1:36 pmi truly believe there is no way AAR is going away…
about franken – he is not a great radio voice, but he can pull in the guests who are the most important voices that need to be heard… his style can be annoying (too many “uh”s) but i listen for his guests…
speaking of which – TPs own judd occasionally, and CAPs christy harvey…
and no one has the facts to back up the rant like randi… no one…
no, it ain’t going away…
September 13th, 2006 at 1:36 pm…
This does seem woeful for Progressive Talk, yes, but we will not give up.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:36 pmEach morning we will sniff check our own assholes and the assholes of other progressives
and we will spread “the truth” in that manner, the way we spread everything else, via anus; it’s only a matter of time til we come back bigger and better and this time with KY in our pockets. We will have our way the way Frankenstein had his way.
I am going to be biggest liberal ever, I am going to hit more people with
folding chairs and hire more tokens and give huge sums to the ACLU to remove teenie weenie Crucifiexes from cereal boxes, we will have our way, we will learn force and torture, and there will be ten thousand bodies left in our wake, because being liberal means never having to say you’re sorry. Zeig Heil!!!
Air America is and may be the worst radio net I ever heard. Randi Rhodes? Al Franken? No discourse just venom. Good riddance I hope.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:37 pmComment #37 is quite funny:
“it doesn’t matter how great our policies or candidates are if we don’t have the medium to get our message out.”
I guess ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, NPR is not enough! Perhaps the Democrats policies and candidates are just not good.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:37 pmIf Air America is such an informative format and “Lot” of people listen then why is it folding. Maybe nobody is listening to it except the fringe left bent on Bush hating.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:37 pmJohn
If “Progressive Radio” is so strong, then why is Air America declaring bankruptcy?
September 13th, 2006 at 1:37 pmI don’t see the problem. There has been liberal radio for decades, it’s called NPR! As long as elected representitives want to waste taxpayer money there will be NPR.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:44 pmHilarious. But don’t fret young bureaucrats, the nutroots are there for you yet.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:44 pmRIP Hotair america……. Neal Boortz, and Sean Hannity has better programming anyway. By the way wasn’t Alec Baldwin supposed to move to Canada if Bush was re-elected!!!! Alec if your out there let us know were took up a collection to cover your moving cost, maybe you’ll have enough to take that nut case Cindy Sheehan with you.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:44 pmHa, listening to all these comments just confirms why the Liberal agenda in America won’t ever work…becasue you are all devoid of original ideas and can only bitch and moan about conservatives without actually bringing fresh ideas or the ability to solve problems. This is also why I PROMISE that the Dems will NOT get the seats necessary to form a majority.
Bunch of sorry whiners, and what exactly is a Patriotic Liberal Christian..you believe in God and Abortion….You all are the sorriest lot ever.
Thomas
September 13th, 2006 at 1:46 pmA Reagan Conservative
I guess the fundamental thing missing from most of the above posts is “why” they are going bankrupt.
Bankruptcy comes from not pulling in revenue.
Revenue comes from advertisers.
Advertisers want ratings. They want to put their money in the best time/station slot to maximize ROI.
Ratings come from people listening to the station.
If only a handful of people listen, they do not generate ratings.
So, to all you Liberal/Progressive/Democrat talk show supporters out there… this is your fault. You didn’t listen, you didn’t get other people to listen, you didn’t pony up the cash to get it going in thr first place. It’s time to stop whining about the “Neo-Con Conspiracy” or the “Republican Machine”, why don’t you try and figure out why there are more people who agree with Rush Limbaugh than with Al Franken.
Free Market rule says Air America is doomed. Majority rule says the same.
I guess, in the end, Al Franken is simply not good enough or smart enough, and people just don’t like him.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:46 pmAir America failed not because of its political point of view—love or hate it, there’s a place for its POV and a constituency for it that buys stuff sold in radio ads, which is the only test of that. It failed because it was BAD RADIO. It was a constant rant, a one-note samba, and not entertaining or even enlightening because of it. You may hate Rush, but he’s got variety and a sense of humor and STYLE. The very proof of this is what you say about Stephanie–she’s FUNNY and doesn’t bang on the same theme over and over and over…but don’t fool yourself about the size of her audience compared to Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. etc. She and the rest of the so-called progressive “stars” are fleas compared to giants. Radio is a COMMERCIAL medium–you have to grow a BIG and BROAD-based audience that actually BUYS products being advertised. It really isn’t that complex. Is there something about being “progressive” that makes you unwilling or unable to grasp the basic tenets of capitalism? Is doing so beneath your principles? Maybe, but this BK filing is only a formal announcement of a financial reality that’s been true since DAY ONE on Air America and has NEVER changed.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:47 pmThat proves that the neo-cons are still back in the dark ages of radio …and all other things….the Progressive and “Green People” are downloading and Ipoding. We are the future!
September 13th, 2006 at 1:48 pmAir America a “balance to hate-filled right wing radio”? You gotta be kidding, right? I listen sometimes to AA on my XM satellite, and never have I heard more hatred, anti-American, reactionary vitriol in my life. Uninformed, delusional, lemming-like mental midgets do not make for good radio, or good business as it turns out. Go figure…and good riddance. Come back with some actual SUBSTANCE and AA might actually find an audience with a brain.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:48 pmImagine that. My only question is why Sorro’s didn’t bail on this loser after the first month. Liberals always fail in an interactive format.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:49 pmWhen you have no listeners and cannot sell any advertising you go bankrupt.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:49 pmSorry kids, that’s how radio works.
Air America should’ve been called Welfare America since that’s the business model they followed.
Not surprising. I’ve been listening and all I hear is “We hate George Bush.” People want optimism and ideas, not the an open sewer of negativity. Good Riddance
September 13th, 2006 at 1:49 pmWow, I stumbled into this strange world you have here through a link from the drudgereport. You people are kinda cute and funny when youre not screaming angry. Don’t feel too bad about low ratings for left wing radio. You’ve still got the majority of the voice in print and TV media including the mainstream “News” sources. Anyway, carry on..have fun. “Make love not war”, ‘bush lied people died”, all that jazz…….Ha Ha Ha
September 13th, 2006 at 1:50 pmProgressive radio will never work. Just stick with the alphabet networks on tv. You’ve got them in the palm of your hand.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:50 pmIn the media business, it’s all about ratings. If you don’t get the ratings, you don’t stay on the air. Period. Just ask Rush Limbaugh. He has THE highest rated radio program on the planet and has been #1 for almost 20 years. Why? Because people, LOTS of them, listen. He’s also experienced the other end (Air America’s end) of the spectrum when his TV show debuted a few years ago. Nobody watched and it promplty tanked. Yanked in a NY second. Based on ratings, Air America should have been off the air months ago. It hung on as long as it could with, shall we say, “creative” financing but in the end you can’t polish a brick and if nobody listens then the show doesn’t stay on the air. It’s ALL about ratings
September 13th, 2006 at 1:50 pmAs to the why it is failing….there is no magic.
Right-wing radio is successful because its rabid listeners actively support its advertisers. They buy from advertisers precisely because they advertise on the “right” propoganda programs with compelling ads that push the correct mental buttons.
If we lefties could get our act together we would make sure there is compelling advertising on our own programs. It is great that people tune in to listen to AAR, but the only way to ensure that such programming stays on their air is to make sure advertisers on these stations create better ads so that people buy from them. If we would make it known that we are buying because of ads on AAR, then AAR would be vibrant.
How can we get better advertisers/advertising? I’m sure this must be the problem.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:50 pmThere sits Al,
September 13th, 2006 at 1:51 pmBroken hearted,
Came to talk,
But only AArted.
GOOD RIDDANCE! THE DEMS JUST DONT GET IT. THEY’RE JUST TO MAD OVER BUSH TRONCHING GORE IN 2000.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:51 pmBUSH 2007!!
The problem is “progressives/liberals/democrats do not listen to talk radio. They would rather watch Duke’s of Hazzard reruns.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:51 pmThis is a great sign that progressive radio is indeed popular. It is sure to grow even further once you realize all the potentual listeners out there who are not yet listening. Kudos to Air America for taking such a bold move to prove progressive radio is popular.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:53 pmAir America is mainly a content provider. They own very few of their stations. They do almost no advertising. Are bankrupt airlines still flying? Yes.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:53 pmIt would not take that much to keep it all going. I for one would be willing to contribute directly to this endeavor. The programing is fantastic, particularly on the weekend with Ring of Fire, etc. Rhandi Rhodes would still be available from her original Florida station.
You people are friggin nuts.
Stop cheering for the enemy.
At least pretend to be patriotic.
Burn a French flag, not an american flag.
And leave my GUNS alone.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:53 pmHa Ha!
September 13th, 2006 at 1:53 pmNatural Selection in action. Apparently, there is little or no market for progressive talk radio. What does that tell you about the people tuning in?
Air America and the rest of the hard left are out of touch with reality.
So to Air America and Moonbats that poplated it…
BUH-BYE
September 13th, 2006 at 1:54 pmWow. The Trolls are out in force today!
September 13th, 2006 at 1:54 pmI guess there are just so many ways you can say “I hate Bush” before the public gets bored. Good riddence.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:54 pmWho wants to listen to liberals whine and bitch?
September 13th, 2006 at 1:55 pmBoy, there is a fair amount of crying going on here. So what if Error Amerika goes off the air. Based on their ratings they should have been dropped a year ago. How can you keep asking Error Amerika’s deep pocket benefactors to keep carrying the load. They have already lost millions on this far fetched sure to fail adventure. So, head over and join their Premiun Service, quickly. Spend your money fast so they’ll have it when they quit. Face it, Progressive (and I use that word loosely) Radio was, is and will always be a bust. No one with a half a brain can sit and listen to all that harping and lying. So Long……………………….!!
September 13th, 2006 at 1:55 pmBankruptcy is always a sure way to tell that something is successful. The pitiful ratings of those other clowns, Shultz and whoever the other one is that was mentioned is another sure fire way to know that something is a success. But then again, how could any business venture such as progressive radio, whos’ business plan is built on lies and conspiracy theories not be a huge success. Someone suggested Keith Olberman; talk about a seamless transition!
September 13th, 2006 at 1:56 pmYES, YES, YES!!! I’m elated.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:56 pmIt’s great to see these idiots fail!
AL MUST STAY on the air!! He is peerless in his ability to make people laugh while making them THINK.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:57 pmRandi Rhodes, on the other hand, is painful to listen to. How many times can one radio host say “these people…un-ba-LEEEEV-able!” While I share her sentiments, it makes me tired to hear the same thing over and over again.
Its about time! What took so long? If it succeeded in creating progressive talk radio, why is it filing bankruptcy? Maybe nobody wants to listen to left wing propaganda.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:57 pmIt wasn’t the political bent that doomed AA, it was the constant ranting of Randi, the monotone voice of Al, and the overall brutal production quality and dead air. On college radio can get away with it, but advertisers and listeners won’t buy what you’re selling if it seems like you really don’t care if you’re quality stinks. Additionally, they needed to have actual guests on a regular basis, otherwise they just seemed endlessly repetitive.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:57 pmI guess they just didn’t steal enough money from the Boys Clubs of America to stay on the air any longer than this.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:57 pm*chortle*
This is ALL Bush’s fault! Just like 9-11 and Chernobyl and the assassination of Franz Ferdinand. I read it all in a Ward Churchill book. Or Al Franken told me. Or Michael Moore.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:58 pmGood Riddance!
September 13th, 2006 at 1:58 pmI could not be more delighted than when I heard of a probably bankruptcy for “the voice of fools”
September 13th, 2006 at 1:58 pmIt took too long, but it was well deserved. randi rhodes rest in pieces.
Gee, now if I want to hear Randi Rhodes I’ll just have to let my toilet back up.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:58 pmNa, Na, Na… Na, Na, Na … hey, hey, hey… Good-bye.
Na, Na, Na… Na, Na, Na … hey, hey, hey… Good-bye
Na, Na, Na… Na, Na, Na … hey, hey, hey… Good-bye
September 13th, 2006 at 1:58 pmOn my way out the door one day, I asked my wife and her friend if they`d like anything from the local store, since I was headed that way. She replied that she`d like a “Peach Snapple” upon which her friend gasped, ” I can`t believe you drink that stuff, it`s what Rush Limbaugh drinks”! I promptly alerted her to the probability that he also partakes of tapwater from time to time, which she could find no reply to. I then asked her if she`d ever listened to Rush. She said that No, her boyfriend Dan warned her that he was a fat blowhard…. Well, there you go, nothing like judging someone with cold hard facts. A little name-calling carries much more weight than actual in-depth investigation and honest debate. My point is: Air America is missing the most important ingredient to being successful. “Honesty” !!!
September 13th, 2006 at 1:59 pmThis is living proof that without the palor of doom and gloom over America, what liberals have to offer is about as marketable as sand is in the Middle East.
When Americans want truth they know where to find it.
September 13th, 2006 at 1:59 pmThat source is noneother than Rush Limbaugh.
woo wee! calling all trolls! make a list – they’re all here now…
I wonder how much “K†street has to do with steering advertisers away from Air America…we’ll probably never know.
Comment by hit_escape — September 13, 2006 @ 1:35 pm
oh, i think we know…
September 13th, 2006 at 1:59 pmLiberal talk radio will never work, and this is why: Conservatives are united because of what they believe in, such as free market, capitalism, secured borders, lower taxes, a strong defense, and Christianity. Liberals are united because of who they are, such as homosexuals, minorities, environmentalists, and celebrities. People will tune in to radio to discuss ideas, but they won’t tune in just to be reminded who they are.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:00 pmIt’s little wonder Air(head) America is having troubles… There’s an old and reliable adage that if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem. All the Liberal (ooops, pardon me, “Progressives”) at A.A. can do is speak negatively about the state of the country, the state of the Presidency, the war, etc ad nauseum… but can ANYONE in that Party give us SOLUTIONS???? They are quick to say what is all “wrong” but not a single answer to what would make it right.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:01 pm“It’ll never fly Orville.”
The truth has never been spoken better.
A good liberal, democrat, communist, marxist, leninist, green etc. will never be successful in a capitalist market. We are all too busy trying to make a profit……..Something you never did.
Best of luck in the Comedy Clubs in the Catskills.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:01 pmI love the whinning coming from you guys. Fact is the market has spoke and there is no demand in America for the half-truths you idiots spew.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:02 pmErl W.
Poor Babies
September 13th, 2006 at 2:02 pmI am the only Dem. in a Rep. Texas but I have to say that I turned on Air America and I haven’t changed the dial for along time now. To see that this station might be in trouble with money is sad to see.
I have loved each and every show and it sad to see Jerry go. Hopefully he will do better at his new gig on TV.
Second, Randi… ROCKS.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:02 pmHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:02 pmLiberals, excuse me, Progressives, sure know how to spin a story. They have done their usual by changing definitions. They have filed bankruptcy, but are strong. And they have changed the radio airwaves. What a joke; and they expect people to believe this garbage? Once again, the libs fail and fail BIG. Good thing most make their living telling jokes, because they are one BIG joke. Whether known as ‘L’ or ‘P’, they are always losers!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:03 pmEd Schultz is carried on some Air America stations, such as Denver’s 760 AM.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:03 pmOh boo hoo……the libs control all the other media outlets…the major networks, all the local media rags…so you couldn’t get your fingers on one more medium, who cares…….Give the conservatives alittle bit of voice…….I know…I know…you tolerant libs are only tolerant of your thoughts and opinions and want to sqaush any one who differs from your answers. Tolerance can only go so far. Just let the conservatives have one outlet….and start being happy you control all the others.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:03 pmThank God. Now if we can only get “progressive” crap off of network TV, this nation will be better than ever before. Adios Airheads! You won’t be missed (hence the bankruptcy).
September 13th, 2006 at 2:03 pm“Progressive” is just the latest way to say LIBERAL DEMOCRAT. Most of us are smart enough to understand that fact. If Air America actually was entertaining it might have attracted an audiance and stayed afloat instead of bilking charity money to pay AL.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:04 pmGREAT NEWS – THIS COUNTRY WILL BE BETTER OFF WITH OUT ANTI AMERICAN PROPAGANDA.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:04 pmProgressive? What exactly is it progressing into?
September 13th, 2006 at 2:04 pmThe comment about being cancelled proves that progressive radio is strong is so typical of liberals. Even when they lose elections it still means they win. What part of lose can they not understand?
September 13th, 2006 at 2:04 pm#58 – brian. Wrong. But I know you don’t have any proof, so you just screech out “liar!” and think you’ve won an argument. LOL. You sir, have a future in liberal talk radio, should there be a future for that format that is…
Ratings are horrible.
Here is some 2006 rating info from April, predicting that Air America wouldn’t be broadcasting much longer.
Air America registering a weak 1.0 share in Los Angeles, an even tinier share in Chicago, and a catastrophic drop in New York City
And New York hadbad news for Randi Rhodes fans.
Among all listeners 12+, it was a race to the bottom for AIR AMERICA and WLIB as mid-days went from a 1.6 share during winter 2005 to a 1.0 share winter 2006. During PM drive, host Randi Rhodes plunged to 27,900 listeners every quarter hour, finishing 25th place in her time slot, down from 60,900 listeners every quarter hour in the fall.
This one is funny from the Washington Post in 2005.
Air America, the liberal talk network carried on WWRC-AM (1260), went from bad to nonexistent. After WWRC recorded a mere fraction of a rating point in the spring with syndicated shows from the likes of lefty talkers Al Franken, Janeane Garofalo and Stephanie Miller, Arbitron couldn’t detect a measurable listenership for the station this time around.
More ranking info here.
Brian, name calling doesn’t win out over facts.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:04 pmLoser!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:04 pmOne down, one to go. Can we now PLEASE stop funding NPR???
September 13th, 2006 at 2:05 pmThis is indeed sad news, but there may indeed have been some serious problems with the business plan. For example, AA may just have paid Al too much money….
September 13th, 2006 at 2:05 pmGood riddance! If the left could come up with some good ideas people might listen. All you hear from these sorts is that everything in this world is George Bush’s fault. What is the Democrats plan? Just disrepect the people in charge and blame our own country for all that is wrong in the world? Good plan.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:06 pmThe funeral service for Error America will undoubtedly be one of the smallest ever held. Bring a scanning electron microscope…of course, you also will have needed one of those to see the ratings for the network!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:07 pmIs it possible the channel’s programming just sucked? I wouldn’t know what they have to say, my Soviet Union escaping grandfather told me enough about what leftists are about….. (after a brief stay in a gulag, naturally).
September 13th, 2006 at 2:07 pmI am glad to see that you “progressives” are still supporting my innovative ideas. I am shocked to see that putting them forth via the radio airwaves is not commercially viable. My theories have proven successful in practice world wide over the past 150 years. Never give up commrades!!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:07 pmWell, I hope that the crazy pundits on the Right and the Left would just shut up and let a voice of moderation in. In other words, the radicals in Air America is just the flip-side of the coin to the radicals like Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage.
I’m happy that Air America is going away. I was growing tired of the shouting and ranting from them.
Now if only we can stop the ranting and raving from the Radical Right, the sane people of America can truly get things done without both of these crazies…
September 13th, 2006 at 2:07 pmIt’s no surprise that Air America is going bankrupt.
Conservatives turn away from their leftist “idiot boxes” and turn to radio that offers a better dialog to challenge thoughts and ideas. When the left decides to jump into the radio format among a extremely large conservative base, and cannot support their own arguments with rational thoughts, its no wonder why a leftist talk format will fail.
Good attempt, bad judgment !!!
Good riddens….
September 13th, 2006 at 2:08 pmAnyone surprised by Air America’s failure? Other than a few far-left moonbats, no one listens. Guess George Soros didn’t want to bankroll an obvious failure either. How’s that Al Gore TV network doing? Another great idea…
September 13th, 2006 at 2:08 pmIf AA goes off the air I guess the sales of Dungeons and Dragons Toy sets will go up. Attracts the same victims of poor potty training/psychiotypical types. LOL!!!!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:08 pmThe talk radio listeners are from the Red Country not the Blue. Surprised AA lasted this long.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:09 pmThis goes to show that you cannot continue to rant and rave about the Republicans and make it. At least Rush & Shaun are able to make it on selling ads and did not have to rely on people like George Soros to keep them going this long. Dissent is great for the country but if all you do is call people names and throw out charges (like Karl Rove and the Bush administration leaked Plames name) without ANY proof you tend to lose credibility. If the progressives can find someone that can make an argument without name calling and be able to explain their ideas (if and when they get any) maybe people will listen to them. AA was so far out of the main stream they could not see the it.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:11 pmHmm..did I really read that it failed because progressives are so much more intelligent? Amazing. it failed because people don’t want to hear the stuff Randi Rhodes has to say. Period.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:11 pmApparantly talk radio will remain a media with a strong conservative base. I guess liberals will just have to be happy having CNN, New York Times, Newsweek, CBS, etc. cover mostly their point of view.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:11 pmI tried listening for a few weeks when it first came on but couldn’t take it. I was longing for good ideas, but all I heard was whining. You can’t build a station around “I hate G. W. Bush!”
September 13th, 2006 at 2:11 pmI now listen to Free Talk Live. It broadcasts on about 11 statons nationwide. I download the podcast from Freetalklive.com. More ideas, less whining and hate than the left or right.
I hope Stephanie Miller finds a new home, though, cause she is funny!
Cool!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:11 pmAir America is going under because there is not enough support, in term of numbers, for them to keep the doors open. Period. The left has a forum–CNN, ABC, CBS, The Today Show, Good Morning America, New York Times, etc.
Here is the problem. It is not that we don’t here your ideas, we do. Most of us simply don’t agree with them. Liberals are 20-30 years olds, I know, I used to be as liberal as any brain-washed college mush-head (you know the type, 23 and know everything about the world and politics). Then I got out and got a job and started paying taxes, and paying attention. My liberal views were quickly replaced by common sense once I began supporting a family. The truth is most of us grow up, and part of that is outgrowing utopian liberal idealism. Life is not fair, sorry it is just a fact. There will always be poor people and rich people… Also, I began to see that folks on the left didn’t really live by what they espoused, they just said whatever I wanted to hear so they could count on my vote. Do you think John Kerry or Ted Kennedy really care about some black homeless kid? Or a pregnant single mother struggling with the choice of having a child, or an abortion. If you do, you must still be young and dumb. They don’t, if they truly believed what they say they would give away their millions to the poor people the proclaim to care so deeply for. Yet they live lives must can’t imagine. Mansions, private jets, homes in 10 different countries, etc…
Hypocrites of the worst order.
R.I.P Air America
…it was never meant to be
Kelly
September 13th, 2006 at 2:13 pmAAR is out of business because America already has a liberal left wing radio show that the Govt. must fund called NPR. In the long run a guess folks in America just don’t want to listen to hate filled lies from the left!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:13 pm“GOD IS DEAD” – AIR AMERICA
“AIR AMERICA IS DEAD” – GOD
September 13th, 2006 at 2:13 pmAt Last! Couldn’t happen to a nicer group.
I guss whan all the ranting and lack of fresh ideas and Bush hating hit the airways – the fresh air and daylight killed it.
You can’t fool the American Public all the time.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:13 pmBy the way wasn’t Alec Baldwin supposed to move to Canada if Bush was re-elected!!!! Comment by ConservativeChuck — September 13, 2006 @ 1:44 pm
actually Chuck, that was just one more lie your hero Hannity made up. Baldwin has offered to debate Hannity on any neutral territory. Big Brave Sean doesn’t seem interested in a debate where he doesn’t control the mike. Isn’t that interesting?
More interesting is teh debate over AAR hosts: People love or hate Franken, love or hate Rhodes: I have never heard anybody defend Springer. Who the hell hired him in the first place.
And Drudge-spawned trools: Bankruptcy doesn’t mean the end. Just look at your “self-made businessman” George Walker Bush of Walkers’ Point, Greenwich, Andover, Yale and Harvard….He declared bankruptcy three or four times after mismanaging Grandmama’s money, and we can’t get rid of him.
Yet.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:13 pmHey #22 – Fox has been ahead of CNN for how long? Only now that CNN has Glenn Beck (conservative) are they picking up steam.
The reason liberals do not succeed on the radio and have to resort to the written word (like blogs and newspapers) is that their arguments to not hold up in discussion. They have to dodge questions or answer them with another question that is off the subject.
And don’t tell me radio is outdated. If it was, then Rush/Glenn Beck/Hannity etc would not have HUGE audiences.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:13 pmBig huge bummer.. this was the perfect black hole for Soros and friend’s money. Now that this negative vortex is in the grave (did I hear “I’m not dead yet” or “it’s just a flesh wound, come back and fight like a man”?), they may stumble onto a more effective way to spend their US tax evaded dollars.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:13 pmHilarious! I’d say good riddance but no one ever listened anyway. How many conspiracies and anti-American banter can any human take. I tried to listen and I thought I was listening in on a bunch of angry, uneducated, ill informed morons. Oh wait! I was! HA HA!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:13 pmIts amazing. Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Micheal Savage are raking it in. However, the liberal point of view can’t stay alive on radio. HMM, maybe its the pointless theories of liberalism, no spine for national defense, anti-God stance that doesn’t sell in America… I got an idea… Why don’t all of you out there send in the money GWB gave back in tax breaks to AA and save this beloved radio station for another couple of months?
September 13th, 2006 at 2:14 pmLike the previous poster noted, AAR is just a constant rant against Bush. That is boring. I enjoy listening to Rush. He has humor and makes political observations without resorting to personal vitriol. A lot of common sense. Michael Savage can be harsh, but when he reflects upon his childhood he brings forth images of what makes us a decent people. There are a lot of common sense human observations in his show. I enjoy Al Franken too. He sometimes is funny, even though I do not agree with him politically. However, people like Randi Rhodes have sunk AAR. She is a constant drumbeat of what she feels is wrong with America. She is a hypocrit from one day to the next, from one hour to the next. She is rude to conservative callers. She is just an unpleasant person and doesn’t lift the spirit. Unlike Rush, Michael, and yes, even Al, one is not smiling, feeling good about being an American, or wanting to listen again. People want to feel good or educate themselves when listening to talk radio. Randi does nothing but sink the human spirit as fast as AAR’s finances. Optimism, not constant pessimism, is something Randi and AAR lacks.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:14 pmConservatism is an intellectual pursuit, for which the talk radio format is well suited. Liberalism is not an intellectual pursuit.
Sean.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:15 pmthe right-wing nut jobs who comment on this blog are way wrong.
Progressive talk radio does work. In LA (the#1 billing radio market) Stephanie Miller has risern in the ratings to beat everbody except CC stablemate Bill Handel, who has been in the market for over a decade. Ed Schultz goes head-to-head with Sean Hannity and beats him in the ratings in Seattle, Portland, San Diego, Phoenix, Denver, Miami and others!
Progressive Talk is more than Air America. And Progressive Talk stations that carry Air America and other Progressive Talk programming have done very well. Air America’s busines plan needs to be restructured and that’s what’s happening.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:15 pmI KNOW Karl Rove is behind this.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:16 pmHoo Boy, The issue is not, has not been “We just didn’t get our message out”. After each election since 2000, the democratic party has been saying the same thing; “We just didn’t get our message out”.
Folks, the democrat/liberal message comes out loud and clear. And when it does, the majority doesn’t want to vote for it, nor do the listeners want to listen to it.
Start channeling Kennedy, Truman, Scoop Jackson, and others and maybe it will “sell”.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:16 pmTo the poster who wrote:
“By the way, didn’t Rush Limbaugh have a television show that flopped harder and faster than Air America radio? I’ll be nobody wants to bring THAT news up.”
… what a load of revisionist crap. Flopped? Since when is second place among late-night TV shows a flop? It’s amazing watching Leftists make up their own “facts.”
Speaking of ratings, it’s obvious that Leftists don’t understand simple economic reality — if no one listens and there’s no audience, then Air America will disappear.
Even in a city like Washington D.C. infested by liberals, no one will listen to Air America. From a Washington Post article detailing how the station earned a ZERO Arbitron rating over a three-month period: “Air America, the liberal talk network carried on WWRC-AM (1260), went from bad to nonexistent. After WWRC recorded a mere fraction of a rating point in the spring with syndicated shows from the likes of lefty talkers Al Franken, Janeane Garofalo and
Stephanie Miller, Arbitron couldn’t detect a measurable listenership for the station this time
around.â€
Let’s all admit that ”Err” America’s failure was a foregone conclusion. Liberal ideas can’t stand up to scrutiny and debate. Don’t believe me? Go to any politics chatroom.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:17 pmPathetic, AA goes bankrupt, and this is GOOD news?
Even with the financing from Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn, other “Celebs” as well as George Soros, and still couldnt succeed? Well hate to tell you, but NOONE is surprised. In america, when you put out a crappy product, noone buys it. PERIOD
The Dimocrats continue to close thier eyes in the rain. Thier party is doomed.
Get real ideas you slouches, and stop pointing fingers. Point them at yourself for once…
Get some ideas other than “Your stupid, and your stupid and your stupid.” Somthing logical from the Dimocrats, and they MIGHT be able to hold onto a couple of thier dwindling seats in congress.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:17 pmThis is unfortunate. Where will I get my left wing wacko laughs!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:17 pmI loved Morning Sedition and was sad to see it go. Yes, the Mark Riley Show has always been weak but Rachel Maddow is HOT (well, I mean, the show is hot). Also the first two hours of Stephanie Miller are hilarious. Al’s a little dull but has some of the smartest guests on. I’m glad Ed Schulz is popular but he’s not very good at debating his conservative callers. I don’t really have much use for Randi. Thom Hartmann is pretty good.
I hope they can keep it going. Kmart filed for bankruptcy a few years ago and they’re still operating. Just about every major airline has, too.
Oh, wait, I’m on TP and forgot to say “I hate America. I hate Bush. I hope we get attacked some more.” Sorry. Those Drudge trolls must have been confused.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:18 pmProgressive? Isn`t that a pretty word……A rose by any other name is still a rose. Coming up with new monikers for old tired ones makes you no less of a weenie….
September 13th, 2006 at 2:18 pmI guess the liberals just couldnt steal enough money from non-profits to stay on the air!!!!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:18 pmThe only negative is that Clear Channel has to carry some liberal talkshows that have bad ratings to appease the liberal democrats so they dont try to bring back the fairness doctrine that was ended by the great Pres. Reagan.
Gee – does Air Amerika declaring bankruptcy mean that they don’t have to make restitution for the $875,000 they stole from the Gloria Wiese Boys & Girls Club in the Bronx?
Well, Al Franken always said they had the money escrowed, and they were in the process of paying it back – so it MUST be true!
Visit Radio Equalizer for the whole story.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:18 pmI’ll miss Air America – sometimes I just need some comic relief. And sometimes it is important to hear the wing-nuts on the left in their own words. It puts a face on the other side and lets you understand the thinking (or lack thereof) and world views which gives rise to the Dean’s, Pelosi’s, Kennedy’s and others on the extreme, radical left.
RIP
September 13th, 2006 at 2:19 pmFace it..the vast majority of the popultion has no interest in you, as you have no viable ideas, only warmed over failed socialism / death-cult..
September 13th, 2006 at 2:19 pmThe inevitable decline of AA is yet another dose of reality the Pathetic Left types posting here can’t deal with. Their outrageous views can’t win an honest debate, and now can’t even make an honest buck. Too bad they still have ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, NYTimes, Wash. Post etc.; there’s still way too many shrill leftist propoganda outlets, but one less can only be a good thing.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:19 pmYou right-wing freaks get off this website. Go back to your racist, reactionary spider holes. Have I told you yet today how much I hate these people!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:20 pmSince they are filing bankrupt, I guess they won’t have to repay the money they stole from the poor ghetto kids.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:20 pmThe environment is a concern of everyone. Clearing the garbage off the air waves is a part of the process and, I must admit, I have been savoring the ever positively spun Air America imitation of the Titanic.
After listening to some broadcasts, I decided it had a broken keel from the day it was launched. That it survived this long is a tribute to the foolishness of the Left. Be it Clinton or Air America, they cannot abandon a sinking ship.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:20 pmThis proves that capitalism and capitalist dogs must be crushed like the cockroaches they are!
My comrades, the imperialist dogs that have sabotaged the voice of the Marxist-Leninist Revolution have won only a temporary victory, but the voice of the proletariat cannot be silenced!
Rise up and crush the capitalist swine under the boots of the Revolution!
Comrades, do not believe the capitalist lies that claim that our beloved communist radio network ranks lower than colloidal silver infomercials!
Comrades, there are traitors in our midst who have betrayed the Revolution and they must be rooted out and shown to be the enemy of the people that they are! They must be crushed!
Avenge this criminal act and smite the evil capitalist swine that is capable only of lying and works to destroy the proletariat!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:23 pmNo worries. We still have CBS, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, ABC, LA Times, NPR and Al Jazeera. The message will still get out. Maybe not as much on the radio, but we still have our ways!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:23 pmHey AAR!!!!
Need some money???
I know of a few MOSQUES that would LOOOOOOOVE to help you and your cause out! E-mail please for any info.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:24 pmIt’s sad that Air America is on it way out. I say that we should try to keep them on the Air! They succeeded in anchoring me firmly on the conservative side. I feel bad for those poor souls who will never be lifted from the insanity of liberalism!
September 13th, 2006 at 2:24 pmComment #1 says it all.
Progressives get their news from reading blogs and other online sources. I don’t have time to sit and listen to radio, AM or streaming.
The progressive movement has become an echo chamber and progressives seem fine with that. Additionally, that blogger doesn’t seem to understand that radio actually works in favor of those people with a limited amount of time. Blogging can that hours and requires both hands, both eyes and at least half your brain. Ironically, they may have learned in the end what they needed know from the start… Humility.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:24 pmIndeed, a sad event. But the AAR flaw is that they tried to be a network, and do 24/7 as others have mentioned. Radio Syndication is how the strong shows succeed. I hope AAR partners with a strong syndicator like Jones to get their best shows out there. That’s how Rush and others made it work.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:24 pmAAR CAn’t stay on the air because it can’t make money
AAR csan’t make money because of two reasons
1) No one listens to te constant anti Bush rantings
2) most of thier stations can’t be heard 15 feet from the tower.
Don’t let the door hit you AAR listeners in the butt when the last show airs
September 13th, 2006 at 2:24 pmOh by the way, last arbatron rating gave Limbaugh 22 million listeners
Well, if Air (head) America is as honest as thinkprogress.org is than I suppose America is much better off without it. As a matter of fact it is very good news.
Thinkprogress.org just recently had a letter writing campaign to get the truth out as only liberals see it. ABC had a docudrama that was about to be aired called the Path to 911 and Thinkprogress.org needed to silence it. So, naturally they went about suckering their supporters with grand notions of the “truth†to email Disney’s CEO Iger to pull the plug.
Of course what Thinkprogress.org did not say is they are an arm for the Center for American Progress which course was founded and is run by administration officials of the former Clinton Regime.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:25 pmPerhaps they could secure another illegal loan from the NY Boys and Girls Club to keep this audio debaucle afloat. Or perhaps some of these Hollywood limousine liberals could kick in some cash. NAH! That won’t happen either. The bottom line: Air America was a joke. The Hosts were TERRIBLE, vapid and weak on historical knowledge and fact. So in closing, I’d like to say, “SEE YA! WOULDN’T WANT TO BE YA!”
September 13th, 2006 at 2:25 pmAirhead America = Propaganda
Troll frenzy thanks to Drudge
September 13th, 2006 at 2:25 pmProgressive? The precise reason liberals don’t get traction in the open media is because there is nothing “progressive” about their ideas.
We need a new descriptive title in the political lexicon, Retro-Liberals. Forty years after liberal democrats declared War On Poverty we still have a wide gap in prosperity with a vastly increased poverty of spirit and hope. Sixty years after Brown vs. Board of Education minority children are still trapped in substandard schools. Forty years after much needed civil rights legislation passed we still have blatant discrimination on the basis of race, sex and ethnicity now sponsored by our “progressive†liberal government under the label Affirmative Action. A century of Retro-Liberal moral relativism led to a collapse of moral standards and serious damage to the justice systems in western society.
So what do the Retro-Liberals and Leftists offer? They would have us retreat into the failed policies and political dogmas of the 20th Century. There is nothing liberal or progressive in the predominant Retro-Liberal characteristic, which seeks first to lay blame and then proposes to solve all perceived social injustices through repressive government intervention. Retro-Liberals see no problem using a regressive tax policy to pay for their bloated and repressive government. In a laughable turn on words they label their tax monster a “Progressive†tax. What is progressive about tax policy that penalizes the most productive members of society while rewarding those who refuse to accept responsibility for their own well being?
The true progressives of today are those with new ideas for solving old problems. If you want to find new ideas you have to look to the right of those who describe them selves as “Progressives”.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:26 pmNo severance? What’s next, not paying a living wage and no health care? Oh… They’ve already done that? Nevermind.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:26 pm“progressive” is their new name the left has given themselves here in the USA b/c of the negativity associated with the world “liberal”. which is a shame b/c the left stole “liberal” from what are now known as “classical liberals” in the USA. Confusingly though, “liberal” still usually has the original meaning in Europe, that is promoting individual choice and responsibility in both personal and fiscal matters and promoting non-intrusive govt’s and free markets. So maybe the american “classical liberals” can go soon back to calling themselves “liberal” again since the Left doesn’t want anything to do w/ that term anymore.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:26 pmAs an extreme conservative/but not a Bush fan. I used to love Morning Sedition. Then they killed it. Then I loved Maddow. Then they (in the NYC metro area) switched to a new even-lower-powered-if-you-can-believe-it station and got rid of her, keeping the new station’s Sammy&Armie show in her slot.
All the rest of the “personalities” are ranting twits. Either boring or far more biased and truth impaired than the Left imagines Rush to be, or both. Nothing more than an attempt to have a constant anti-right campaign commercial running that could only appeal to a mere few percent of democrats, and only those who are content to live without doing any fact checking on their own.
AM1600 seems to have a range of less than 25 miles from New York. I guess preaching to the converted is NOT what they are about, but their programming is really good for nothing else on a meaningful scale.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:26 pmBye Bye Air America.
You left wing, commie, pinko elitists.
You are dying a slow death, so please hurry up and die. You are wasting radio space that could be used by more conservative talk show hosts.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:27 pmAll you people spouting hateful words about this story is just typical of the apathetic attitudes of Americans these days. Fear and hate are all you know. Someday you will see the direction your ol’ boys W. and Cheney and Rumsfeld and taking this country and it will be too late. They sell hate and fear and lies and you gobble it all up. Air America wasn’t perfect but I heard more truth from that network than any other mainstream source. Keep watching your FOX and listening to your Limbaugh. I, for one, don’t buy into that kind of fear-mongering and hate-filled jargon.
Search out the truth for yourself and make your own educated decisions. Don’t be a lemming under this “administration”. Patriotism is loving your COUNTRY, not it’s President.
September 13th, 2006 at 2:27 pm[...] According to a report at ThinkProgress.org, Air America Radio will file bankruptcy papers on Friday. [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 3:04 pmAir America crashes into a swamp….
For a few laughs, check out this comment thread on a liberal web site reporting on the story. Those crybabies even managed to claim that if it were a conservative station the Bush administration would secretly funnel millions of dollars into it. What…..
September 13th, 2006 at 3:25 pm[...] From ThinkProgress comes the very sad news that the left-wing talk radio network Air America is declaring bankruptcy. EXCLUSIVE: Air America To Declare Bankruptcy, But Progressive Radio Remains Strong [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 3:25 pm[...] Wow, who didn’t see that coming! But this is by far the funniest part of the story. According to Think Progress, “In fact, Air America succeeded at creating something that didn’t exist: the progressive talk radio format. That format is now established and strong and will continue with or without Air America.” Doesn’t it help to have an audience? [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 4:57 pm[...] And not just morally this time. Nope it’s all about the money now. [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 5:54 pm[...] Air America: Soon To Be Dead Air? [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 5:55 pm[...] From Think Progress, in a headline on a par with “Chicago Cubs Finish in Last Place Again; Team Optimistic”: Air America To Declare Bankruptcy, But Progressive Radio Remains Strong [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 6:03 pm[...] Air America To Declare Bankruptcy, But Progressive Radio Remains Strong [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 6:06 pm[...] Rumors are afoot today that Air America will file for bankruptcy on Friday. Air America To Declare Bankruptcy. Link courtesy of Drudge. Air America Radio will announce a major restructuring on Friday, which is expected to include a bankruptcy filing, three independent sources have told ThinkProgress. [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 6:09 pm[...] Gonna miss this disaster of a propaganda machine. Was it Franken’s not-made-for-radio voice? Was it Randy “Keith Olbermann in drag” Rhoades’ creative interpretation of the facts? We’ll never know. [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 6:43 pm[...] Proof positive: 4 out of 5 radio listeners prefer it Republican style. [Think Progress] [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 6:48 pm[...] Air America declares bankruptcy. It’s a fitting end, considering those affiliated with the failed venture were morally and intellectually bankrupt to begin with. [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 7:02 pm[...] EXCLUSIVE: Air America To Declare Bankruptcy, But Progressive Radio Remains Strong Air America Radio will announce a major restructuring on Friday, which is expected to include a bankruptcy filing, three independent sources have told ThinkProgress. [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 7:34 pm[...] Thanks to Sister Toldjah, I found the story on the apparent bankruptcy (financial this time, not just philosophical and political) of Air America. Sis linked the following story from Think Progress: Air America To Declare Bankruptcy, But Progressive Radio Remains Strong [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 7:47 pm[...] Think Progress reports, mournfully, that Air America Radio will declare bankruptcy. Air America Radio will announce a major restructuring on Friday, which is expected to include a bankruptcy filing, three independent sources have told ThinkProgress.Air America could remain on the air under the deal, but significant personnel changes are already in the works. Sources say five Air America employees were laid off yesterday and were told there would be no severance without capital infusion or bankruptcy. Also, Air America has ended its relationship with host Jerry Springer. [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 8:26 pm[...] Here is how the libs are characterizing the announcement that Air America is “reorganizing” [read going belly up.] Air America To Declare Bankruptcy, But Progressive Radio Remains Strong [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 8:42 pm[...] This is the story – let’s hope it is not really coming down. We need a media voice. What is the matter with the wealthy lefties in this country? We need you to step up to the plate!! The right is soooo good at getting the money. Nothing else matters because they know that money does buy everything. If this Franken story is correct, we all owe him. [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 8:43 pm[...] Air America To Declare Bankruptcy [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 8:46 pm[...] Air America’s Life Support Cut By Doug Brian Maloney covers the Think Progress announcement of the bankruptcy of Air America. (We’re speaking of cash this time, in addition to that of ideas.) Cash- starved Air America Radio is broke and up for sale, the Radio Equalizer has learned exclusively. [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 8:47 pm[...] Think Progress was the original scoop on this story, first saying that AAR is going to announce a “major restructuring” which might include a Chapter 13 bankruptcy filing. (For those not familiar with the different chapters of bankruptcy, Chapter 13 is basically a protection procedure for financial reorganization, not usually a “going out of business” protection.) [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 8:58 pm[...] Evidently not. [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 9:00 pm[...] Go for broke that is what I always said. Man in 2009 whe the congressional hearings start on this whole fiasco this is gonna make for some interesting panel discussions. Think Progress » Air America To Declare Bankruptcy, But Progressive Radio Remains Strong [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 9:03 pm[...] On the heels of Mike Malloy’s firing at Air America Radio, ThinkProgress.org is reporting that AAR will be filing for bankruptcy on Friday, September, 15th. Air America could remain on the air under the deal, but significant personnel changes are already in the works. Sources say five Air America employees were laid off yesterday and were told there would be no severance without capital infusion or bankruptcy. Also, Air America has ended its relationship with host Jerry Springer. Source:ThinkProgress.org [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 10:30 pm[...] Think Progress is reporting that Air America radio will announce filing for bankruptcy protection on Friday according to three independent sources. The company has experienced financial difficulties throughout its tenure, continuing to request infusions of capital and suffering the loss of several high-profile hosts. Five employees were laid off Tuesday without severance. [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 10:38 pm[...] Americans to Liberals: Shut the hell up Air America is bankrupt Think Progress » Air America To Declare Bankruptcy, But Progressive Radio Remains Strong [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 10:40 pmIs Air America About To Declare Bankruptcy?…
Is Air America, the talk radio network designed to counter and capitalize on the popularity of the conservative talk show genre that has swept the AM d……
September 13th, 2006 at 10:50 pm[...] Say it ain’t so. [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 10:54 pm[...] Air America To Declare Bankruptcy, But Progressive Radio Remains Strong [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 11:28 pm[...] The Result of Hard Hitting Research – Think Progress Style [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 11:34 pm[...] I suspect this venture will have as much success as Air America: Air America Radio will announce a major restructuring on Friday, which is expected to include a bankruptcy filing, three independent sources have told ThinkProgress. Filed under Liberal Lunatics, Raven at 11:59 pm [...]
September 13th, 2006 at 11:59 pm[...] Air America, the sad liberal attempt at talk radio, is on the way out: Air America Radio will announce a major restructuring on Friday, which is expected to include a bankruptcy filing, three independent sources have told ThinkProgress. [...]
September 14th, 2006 at 12:10 amWhatever…. talk/chat/complain/excuse as ya will… the fact is Rush and others are still on the air. Reminds me of the football player what was taunting(after scoring a touchdown) while being 21 points behind. The winning team member just pointed to the scoreboard and walked away. I am pointing to the on-air folks and walking away… the right-wing is now the “correct”-wing… right=correct….
sorry about your loss…. better luck next time.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:57 amEven Soro’s didn’t want to save the Air America disaater. Why ??
September 14th, 2006 at 1:01 amStupid Libs, no one cares about your socialst propaganda. Get a life, Hell just get a job!
September 14th, 2006 at 1:03 amLeft wing radio is a Dodo…
Extinct. Done.
It failed because NOBODY listened to it. It was on Life Support thanx to crazies such as Soros, but even that dim bulb was bright enoughj to know when to get out. Franken and Rhodes are awful hosts.
But I personally will miss their efforts. They have done more to bring Independents to the RIGHT than anything the GOP has done lately.
THANK YOU, AL FRANKEN..!!
September 14th, 2006 at 1:09 amIt would be too bad if ‘Air America’ went away. It gives us conservatives something to laugh at. Keep up the good work Al and company.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:18 amWhere’s the wealthy “liberal” Hollywood literati? Why don’t they put their money where their mouth is?
September 14th, 2006 at 1:18 amWell, too bad for Al Frankenstein and the rest of the “Off the Air America” staff. Were they ever able to meet their payroll? Perhaps it’s time for the regressive liberals to figure out how to make progress. Perhaps writing some books with catchy titles like, “Why Al Franken is a small minded itiot” and “Lies, and the lying liberal liers continually spewing lies about the right”.
Perhaps the regressive liberals will progress enough someday to catch up to the right.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:19 amTypical DemocRats would probably want the government to bail out Air America. Why don’t you ask Iranian Pres. Ahmadinejah for monetary support? He already has the mainstream media–ABC, NBC, CBS, NY Times, LA Times, etc. in his pocket. I’m sure he can use a radio station, too.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:21 amNice to see all the shut-ins making an appearance.
I always wondered who reads Drudge.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:23 amThis is what the left does not understand…If AA was so great why is it floundering. The only way the AA will or should I say CAN survive is by putting on hosts that are moderate. I have listened to this program and there is no meat on it. It is the same old thing everytime about Bush stole the elections and Bush sucks and Bush lied etc etc etc. No facts or issues with substance. If progressive radio wants to survive they need to back there claims up with facts, not schoolyard name calling. I am not a Rush or Hannity fan but they substantiate there claims unlike Franken.
For AA to survive Franken needs to go and some hosts with credibility need to be aired. Simple.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:26 amDang.I am just sick.First AlGore loses then John Kerrey goes into the tank.Now oil prices are dropping faster than Hilary Clinton’s bustline and you tell me Air Amerika is goin under.This is a dark day for the Amerika haters of this wurld,lemme tell ya.This wudn’t a happened when Franklin D. was in,nosir lemme tell ya we had control of all the media then from Abc to XYZ and we didn’t allow no dossident opinions then,pardon my french;no we ignored anyone who dared to believe that communism wasn’t the salvation of the wurld or that Saccho and Vanzetti weren’t mistreated little choir boys.We laughed at those who thought John Reid was Stalin’s buttboy and
September 14th, 2006 at 1:29 amProgressive radio? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
September 14th, 2006 at 1:35 ammiddle age hippies, hollyweird elites and the great unwashed don’t listen to talk radio! Intelligent people will not listen to this trash. And those who would listen are watching Springer or Montel instead.
Why don’t you left-wing idiots take an economics lesson? If you have a product that sells, you will stay in business. Apparently, there are people in the US who do not want to listen to radio hosts, like Al Franken and Randi Rhodes, who hate America and want America defeated just because they hate President Bush.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:37 amGee, I guess this means that capitalism works! Goodbye, lunatic fringe!
September 14th, 2006 at 1:44 amGoodbye, hippies!
I’m a Supra-Indapendant; look the hustle that is the two party Duopoly must ceace soon. I hope both parties are sane enough to not break the country up and feed it to world government. America must survive. If an actual Conservative Democrat ran for President in 08′ they’d probably win. The way things are these days that world be like a third party winning. I say that becuase I’m friendly
September 14th, 2006 at 1:46 amBUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS !BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS ! BUSH SUCKS !
Whats That? you mean no one is listening? we are bankrupt?
How could this happen?
September 14th, 2006 at 1:47 amKeep Air America on-air so I can hear about all the bad things going on in America. Where can I send my money. It’s awesome that the US has Freedom of the Press because we get to hear how everyone else hates America too. Protest, protest, protest. That’s our only hope to win back the White House. Bush is bombing innocent terrorists!!!! He should be resigned. Bring on C. Everett Koop – surgeon general says he’s hazardous for US. War Labor, war Unions, war Lincoln Chafee losing in primary. We need Air America to spread the message about our dark society. Bush is fleecing the rich and giving it to the wealthy.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:49 amIf I cannot tell you all that both parties are leading america into oblivion on this blog then freedom is dead. We must all but aside democrat and republican because they are both cults. America must Survive.
America is a Serious Country Damm-it
September 14th, 2006 at 1:50 amwell since no one will advertise on Progressive talk radio, we need to use the Fairness doctrine to force free air time or eliminate right wing radio
September 14th, 2006 at 1:57 amHahahahahah!
The fact that they fired five people and gave them no severance is a real class act…very telling. Funny, though; aren’t liberals the folks that CARE about the working man? Or perhaps it’s true: they’re just not able to be trusted with other people’s money!
Say, who were their primary advertisers?
September 14th, 2006 at 1:58 amThe success of radio depends on listener ship. If you don’t offer the programming that listeners want then they don’t stay with you. Obviously, you have no one to blame but yourselves.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:58 amThe only reason Air America is going bankrupt is that they can’t get advertisers to pay for their programs. The rate a radio station can charge advertisers is based on listeners. If you have no listeners, you can’t charge anything for your commericals time. The question should be, but won’t be asked is…WHY IS NO ONE LISTENING TO AIR AMERICA? Simple, as noisy as right wing radio my be, there is always a positive message and a sense of hope. Air America is a 24/7 bi#ch fest. It’s depressing. You get angry listening to it. Rush may make you angry, but you feel good about it. I know it’s not what you want to hear, but he’s good at what he does.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:58 amThere aren’t any Conservative Democrats around. The only Democrats left are the ones who are happy when more US soldiers die in Iraq, because they think it makes Bush look bad. The Democrats’ only concern is to defeat Bush–at the cost of national security.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:03 amAny clear thinking individual can see and acknowledge that the media outlets in general are run by the liberals. It is known that due to their incestuous self-promotion of one another will only lead to implosion and fewer listeners. Ty makes a good point. The problem with the liberal agenda or Democratic party (which ever you prefer to associate with) is they only know how to attack. Anybody can attack, but unless you have a solid alternative plan in place to counter the opposition, all of your arguments sound like sour grapes and whining. The data does not lie, it is no secret that conservative radio and television i.e., Fox News outpaces viewer-ship of liberal leaning media by a margin of 5 to 1. All of the top shows in the ratings game are all conservative or moderate. You will continually see left leaning shows at the bottom. Why is this? It’s because they have no alternative or counter-arguments to substantiate their claim–it comes across as hollow and transparent to the listener. Continual chestbeating and attacks certainly grow tiresome–it will be the downfall of the liberal agenda. God Bless America from sea to shining sea!! Brought to you by an independent.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:06 amWhen you are full of yourself you tend to believe that people love you when they really don’t. Thus, another one bites the dust. No more Al Franken. It’s breaking my heart. NOT!
September 14th, 2006 at 2:13 amIf we liberals are so bad because we are critizing Bush on Air America, why is the congress writing to Bush about how bad things are. Read the letters they are all over the internet; senators, congressman. Alot of them are Republicans.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:19 amI am lmao. This has got to be the most pathetic example of whistling past the graveyard I have ever seen. Absolutely hysterical. Thank you for one helluva great laugh. ; )
September 14th, 2006 at 2:20 amThe problem with Air America is the Progressives ( Read Liberal) is that they don’t understand a free market. If the world were to start over tomorrow capitolism would be the first thing to appear. It’s the natural order of things, any other attempt to manipulate the economy is going against the natural order of things. Air America was held together by spit and bailing wire. It was never the natural order of how a business suceeds, hence it failed.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:21 amThe problem with Air America is the Progressives (Read Liberal) don’t understand a free market. If the world were to start over tomorrow, capitalism would be the first thing to appear. It’s the natural order of things; any other attempt to manipulate the economy is going against the natural order of things. Air America was held together by spit and bailing wire. It was never the natural order of how a business succeeds, hence it failed.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:22 amAir America goes belly up? Is there anyone surprised? Probably not more than about 12 liberals. Perhaps you needed that nutcase Tom Cruise programming for you.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:32 amAir America is sinking? It’s a great day for America! God Bless The USA.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:38 amAir America fails because it is repetitive. Liberals can get their worldview presented on most major networks, all of the print media,all of Hollywood, and most of pop radio. What could Air America add besides a little extra hate speech?
September 14th, 2006 at 2:46 amI remember seeing Al Frankenon Saturday Night Live as “Franken and Davis”
Davis was funnier than Franken.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:49 amI listened to AA a few times and became nauseated by their continuous lies and allegations. They are just stooges of Moveon.org and Democrat Party. They lie about everything…and want to tax everyone out of existence. Glad to see the Anti-American (AA) go byebye…and good riddance. Libs are going the way of the dinosaur..but not fast enough!
September 14th, 2006 at 2:53 amAccording to KGB theorists, the Islamic world was a petri dish in which we could nurture a virulent strain of America-hate. Islamic cultures had a taste for nationalism, jingoism and victimology. Their illiterate, oppressed mobs could be whipped up to a fever pitch. Terrorism and violence against America would flow naturally from their religious fervor. We had only to keep repeating, over and over, that the United States was a “Zionist country†bankrolled by rich Jews. Islam was obsessed with preventing the infidel’s occupation of its territory, and it would be highly receptive to our dogma that American imperialism wanted to transform the rest of the world into a Jewish fiefdom.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:53 amWhy not a little help from some of the moonbats in Hollywood? Come on whiners and put your money where your mouth is. Are you all fluff and no stuff?
September 14th, 2006 at 2:54 amI thought Al Franken was stupid on SNL, and I think he is boring now. Good bye and good riddance. Maybe they can put a “progressive” disco station on in it’s place to brighten up the liberals — Oops, I mean progressives.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:55 amGood Bye Forever…one can only hope that the Libs will be defeated and go away like the Whig party
September 14th, 2006 at 2:55 amI it is amazing the ignorance among some the this great country’s population. It is only obvious that corporations generally lean to the right, because they vote to help corporations over and over. Even your so called “left wing media” ABC, NBC, CNN ect……. support the right far more than the left. That is why we get all the non-news that has no effect to about 99.9% of Americans lives. Ever notice how Scott Petterson, Aruba Girl, Anna Nicole, ect… are considered major news stories that take the spotlight for several hours a day for days, weeks, and months. Oh, there’s no good news coming out of Iraq? Real news is based on informing. 130,000 or so of our troops were not killed today. 300 million Americans have not been killed by such and such serial killer today, Hip Hip Hurray. So called good news is referred to as propaganda. This definion is from Dictionary.com
September 14th, 2006 at 2:56 amfascism–noun 1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Basically fascism is the merge of business and government. We are not quite there at this time, but it is in motion and gaining speed. That is way Air America is in trouble, because most liberals disagree with the fascist view and preach against it. Mom and Pop business doesn’t have the means to advertise nationally through AAR. Most corporations are funding the right wing propaganda machine though commercials and campaine donations. They don’t care about anything but the bottomline and fascism makes it possible for huge profits. Sounds like the right wingers here will welcome fascism with open arms while living in their cardboard boxes.
Liberals . . . you lost another one. Get over it or learn to love it.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:04 amI guess it is tough to combat the truth.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:08 amAir America would have probably made it if they had more support from that tree-hugging, owl saving. yogurt sucking guru, Al Gore.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:09 amI guess it is difficult to combat the truth.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:10 amBoy, now that’s a hard hitting reply. I guess that it is difficult to argue the truth.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:15 amThis has to be someone else’s fault. The neo-cons, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Limbaugh, Halliburton. If only AA could get taxpayer money it would solve the problem of no one listening, except for moonbats.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:22 amIt just shows that nobody wants to listen to a radio show where the host puts down his country, puts down the police, puts down the military, puts down the family, and hates the church. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:22 amJason M. Hendler, dba Democrat Soldier, asks whether Rush’s TV show “flopped harder and faster than Air America radio”. It sounds like the typical approach to inventing a fact by using it as a premise to a question based on that “fact” Then to answer the question one has to debunk the premise, making them look they’re dodging the real question. But I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt since he actually used interrogative punctuation.
But I won’t give him any credit for simple research.
In less than 3 minutes in front of Wikipedia, Google and IMDB I came up with the following dates:
Rush goes on air 14Sep1992 and the show is cancelled in the summer of 1996, with broadcasts going until at least 31Jul1996. By my count that is > 46 months.
Air America debuted on 31Mar2004, giving it a current life span of 29 months and change.
Using simple public school mathematics (and common sense from James Randi, et al, to realize that Mr. Hendler here has proposed comparing apples and oranges), I get that Rush’s *TV show* has so far outlasted Air America radio by around 17 months, or nearly a year and a half. Being that both enterprises had total life spans small enough to be measured in months, that is a substantially large difference.
So faster? Definitely not.
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September 14th, 2006 at 3:28 amI’m so sad about Air America’s failure. I want to give money, but I cashed my tax break check Shrub sent me and spent it on myself instead of the poor.
I just want to throw myself on my animal product-free bed and cry myself to sleep.
Tomorrow I’ll make myself an animal product-free soy and wheatgrass smoothie while my life partner has another rape scrape at the abortion clinic.
I’ll write a poem today about it. It will somehow implicate the Jews as part of the anti-Air America conspiracy.
I am so sad. I wish I had the strength to cry more, but I must save my strength. Tomorrow night my communist friends and I are printing 200,000 flyers to distribute at the freedom concert to protest logging.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:29 amDamn….oh well.
Hey, howz ’bout somebody starting a *new* progressive radio network called “Let’s Kill the President”?
Awesome!
September 14th, 2006 at 3:30 amJason M. Hendler, dba Democrat Soldier, asks whether Rush’s TV show “flopped harder and faster than Air America radio”. It sounds like the typical approach to inventing a fact by using it as a premise to a question based on that “fact” Then to answer the question one has to debunk the premise, making them look they’re dodging the real question. But I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt since he actually used interrogative punctuation. But I won’t give him any credit for simple research. more…
September 14th, 2006 at 3:30 amThe marketplace is inherently rational. Liberal ranting and I-hate-America diatribes are not appealing to most radio listeners, which means low ratings from Air America. Advertisers pay for listeners, and low ratings mean low interest from the people who pay the bills. Air America was the wrong message in the wrong place. That type of left-wing slobbering belongs on the internet, where market economics don’t really matter and the lack of popular interest is actually a benefit.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:33 amThe problem with Air America is the Progressives (Read Liberal) don’t understand a free market. If the world were to start over tomorrow, capitalism would be the first thing to appear. It’s the natural order of things; any other attempt to manipulate the economy is going against the natural order of things. Air America was held together by spit and bailing wire. It was never the natural order of how a business succeeds, hence it failed.
Exactly!
The average person does not want to hear whining about raising taxes, tree hugging, unlimited abortions, gay marriages, cut and run in Iraq, class envoy, etc. These special interest concepts do not sell. And as most liberal ideas, they require the subsidy of tax payers or wealthy patrons. The public dole was given out on this long ago. Rejoice Air America fans you still have NPR!
September 14th, 2006 at 3:35 am#115 was the funniest comment i’ve ever seen. haha!
September 14th, 2006 at 3:37 amMay just be my 2c, but Air America never really had much going on anyway… Let me spin it in a way everyone can be comfy with– Crazy right wingers = way too dumb to check out some hyperlinks, occasionally do some background reading. Personally, when I heard anyone on AA doing the believe me because I’m emphatic routine I changed it to 88.3 and listened to my .mp3 player. I read. I’m a reader. AA was trying to bust into the angry listener market, most of us turned our radios off a long time ago. Honestly, sorry if this makes the anger flow, never once did I hear anything but crap rhetoric and hyperbole on Air America. Most times it was so offensive to intelligent discourse that I just couldn’t even listen, just like right wing radio. Its like the only purpose it served was to show that if we had to, we could resort to those methods. You know what I like to read? Numbers. I love to see numbers and charts and friggin analysis. I have had it up to here with angry people and their completely irrellevant opinions. Gimme the numbers, back your nonsense up, seriously, say it with me once, Janine Garofolo(sp?) is not a political expert, nor is she comedically the person for the job in an improve piece about politics, unless its on SNL. Indeed, I arrive at that realization a little belatedly, but SNL levels of humor were really the best you could hope for on AA. You want Air America? Take the most “liberal” story you have heard about on CNN today and read it out loud, but make sure and make a few Bush jokes. Now, take a story about wiretapping, get really pissed off, make a few stock Bush jokes, and go get drunk.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:38 amBah.
Well, I think the fact that it lasted longer goes sufficiently far to suggest that no, in fact, it didn’t “flop harder” than Air America. But let’s be specific about it. Rush’s show was just that – a show. The network broadcasting his show was not bankrupted. And, as far as I can tell, everyone involved got paid all the way through the end (Al Franken is said to be amongst those owed money. Quote: “Like, there’s no cash flowing to me.”). more …
September 14th, 2006 at 3:41 amBut since we’re comparing different broadcast media, perhaps a more common denominator approach could be taken, and I welcome Mr. Hendler, or anyone sufficiently interested, to compile the research. Howzbout trending market share over the course of the two shows to examine the magnitude and slope of the curve over time? Or, ad revenue? Or, absolute number of advertisers? And just to make it a little more fair – the ad revenue for a 24-hour network vs. a single show in a half hour format – just pick whatever is the most popular show on Air America for comparison. Oh, and in constant inflation-adjusted dollars, too. Comparing like objects, Rush’s radio program has been on the air for over 16 years, compared to less than 3 years for Al Franken’s bunch, and is a cash cow for all involved. NO more …
September 14th, 2006 at 3:42 am[...] The blog Think Progress has an article on this issue and although they get the basic facts concerning Air America’s impending bankruptcy, they do try to put a liberal spin on the matter utilizing some disingenuousness. For example, in the article they claim The right wing is sure to seize on Air America’s financial woes as a sign that progressive talk radio is unpopular. In fact, Air America succeeded at creating something that didn’t exist: the progressive talk radio format. That format is now established and strong and will continue with or without Air America. [...]
September 14th, 2006 at 3:47 amListen yo you whining morons… It’s rather simple: Rush, Hannity, O’Reily, Savage, and so many other conservative hosts/shows stay on the air because they have a product that millions want – the truth. If you jackass liberals could base any of your positions on truth and what is good for AMERICA, you might be able to keep an audience big enough to fund the program.
One of your posts mentioned “converting truck drivers and elderly people…”. Although my father and two brothers are truck drivers and, for the most part I find them to be hard working people, they are often uneducated and easilly convinced of things. It never ceases to amaze me how your party always goes after the young, the elderly, and those that want a hand-out to get votes. You should stop and think – If you mostly convince simple-minded people that you’re right, what does that say about your stance/message? To me it’s clear – it says that you cannot convince bright people that your policies are anything other than COMPLETELY STUPID AND ANTI-AMERICAN!!!
Here’s some advice for Air-America: Hire Rush Limbagh to advise you on how to EARN MONEY instead of begging for it like you’re some kind of telathon that is doing something good for humanity.
Dumb-asses…
September 14th, 2006 at 3:59 am“Liberalism is aingst, guilt, and moral equivalency.”
September 14th, 2006 at 4:11 amSeptember 14th, 2006 at 4:16 am
you can’t force people to listen…without listeners you don’t have advertises.. without advertises you have no network.. bottom line is, most people don’t believe what is being said.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:21 amA negative message gets negative results.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:46 am[...] If AAR goes down, I’m going to be pissed off. And I’m going to be pissed off at the “Al Frankens” of the network who refused to be honest, ordinary Americans with liberal values and diverse, interesting opinions. While I’m sure Al and I could have a helluva time with beers, without microphones and cameras trained on us, he let us down on the air, as did his buds and budettes in the biz. I hold them, and their so-called “visionaries” responsible for this. And my God, I do hope Think Progress has it right when they claim that liberal talk radio is as healthy as it’s ever been… [...]
September 14th, 2006 at 4:49 amWe need to use the space shuttle to line up the star’s so these thing’s start to go our way.Bush use NASA to fix the outer rim of space so he could control people of earth.Air A could be the bigest program out there,but we need to use the star’s to do it.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:00 amThe medium is the message.
Limbaugh and Hannity succeed where others in Conservative radio don’t because they are entertaining.
None, save for Seder, are at all entertaining on the air. The Turks will do well if given time.
The hosts apparently have no direction. One does not nail a carpet tack into the floor with a 1000 pound sledgehammer. The heavy handed pounding by most hosts is their own demise. I never thought I’d say this, but dammit, Jay Marvin, where are you? He’s better than anyone currently on the AA roster!
September 14th, 2006 at 5:10 amWhen you stand for for nothing you’ll fall for anything.
Although, I’m unhappy to hear of any enterprise going belly up, the market has spoken.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:42 amComparing a single program (like Hush Bimbo) to an entire network is false on it’s face. Do you think a station that ever carried Hush folded, if so his show was just picked up somewhere else. What I find disturbing all the self-proclaimed Americans who celebrate the rumors of AA’s downfall. What are you so afraid of Hush-fan? Why do you want the opponents views cleared off the dial. If your so correct, like Hush is right about everything, right-wingers should welcome the competiton, the juxtaposition should highlight you validity. Perhaps if AA took money to expous the elite’s adjenda’s AA would be better off. On the other hand Big Ed and Steph Miller are not AA and they do just fine it’s called the Jones Raidio Network. Check out there rating all you Hate-wingers. The troubling part is how many people Hush has convinced that they are dumb and their only salvation is to listen to him, I mean he has half his brain tied around his back just to make it fair. Don’t think, just buy what he’s hawking, that’s what makes you a good American, to buy stuff. Don’t worry, everything is fine, don’t speak truth to power that only emboldens the enemy. Why do you think Bush is so popular? Hate-wingers don’t want a president who is smarter than them, they want a guy in charge who would be fun to have a beer with. These are the same people who think that since we lost 3000 in 9/11, it is perfectly logical to slaughter half the middle east in the name a freedom if we have to. Hate-winger keep ranting about the lessons of 9/11, how about the lessons of Vietnam? You can’t impose democracy on those who don’t want it, and the territory is not America just because US troops stand on it. AA is down but not out, just like the airwaves are not Hush’s just because he is all over them. However you can’t impose AA’s idoelogy on those who don’t want it either. American’s are more comfortable beleiving they are right and just, they don’t want their ideals challanged, they don’t want to know that their standard of living and decadence is built on the backs of the weak and meek. That is why AA’s is having trouble most American’s don’t want to be challanged, they want to be told everything is all right, just look at the previous post. The Hate-wingers say it for themselves.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:47 amAll the negative rants did in your format. You guys just are not fun to listen too.
The democratic party took that huge left turn and is destroying itself. You have lost your base, and your hero’s Polosi and Reed are worthless, your party flat sucks.
When you guys threw old Joe Leiberman under the truck, you proved for everyone just how out of touch you are.
Good ridense, I will light up my Cobanas and sip on my Crown Royal, laughing my ass off listening to Rush.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:01 amYou right wing idiots lazily believe everything you hear without researching or doing any actual work to get at the truth. That is why you are all happy just repeating the right-wingnut’s “talking points” instead of citing actual facts or statistics. That’s why you can’t ever debate effectively. You ultimately resort to name calling or motive indictment, because you run from the facts like cockroaches when someone turns on the light. From what I understand, this bankruptcy RUMOR is just that, a rumor, and has not been confirmed by anyone with any authority in the matter. Have you seen the court filings? NO? Well, until then….SHUT UP!!! It’s also quite interesting to me that all the vitriolic, idiotic, gloating and childish “ha-ha-ha” ing is coming from men. I have yet to see a woman on this blog resort to that kind of infantile language and behavior. But I should expect that from you Bush-lovers, you are emulating your hero, the jocular, frat-boyish, smirking little child that we all must endure as our President for two more years. Ugh! You just can’t stand the fact that the tide is turning in America and public opinion is mounting against the neo-con artists that have driven this country and it’s economy into near ruin. The only way it will finally sink in to your neanderthal-like brains is when the govt. comes knocking at your door to draft your son or daughter for the Iran war that they are so desperately trying to start. Yeah, when the fascism finally touches you and your family it will be too late for you to do anything about it then because you were too busy belittling us AAR fans. We, the people who actually gave a damn about this country and spoke out about the abuses of power and attacks on the constitution when we still had the freedom to do so. I pity you and your sad little lives, if the only joy you get is practicing Schadenfreude. And if you don’t know what that is then it just proves my point. Maybe you should get of your asses and do a little research to find out what it means. It isn’t a talking point, but you might actually learn something useful. Air America is here to stay, and the Bush Crime Family is doomed to war crime prosecution in the Hague. Democrats will win the house this November, and the White House in 2 years…people have had enough, you will see.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:10 amAA was a joke from the start. Negativity just doesn’t sell. Who wants to hear the steady flow of liberals whining, the ridiculous conspiracy theories, the absurd accusations. This should remain “kitchen table” banter between liberal husband and liberal wife, where, after all, most of what is aired on AA originates. The so called “progressive” (as if) radio talk shows will continue to fall like dominoes, and their wide eyed unsubstaintiated claims will fall with them.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:10 amGood riddance! We get enough lies from our newspapers and network news. Perhaps the same people that frame all the Muslim Nazis are behind this. The Right Wing will stop at nothing. I think they are telling my Dog to scratch his fleas. Rick.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:12 am[...] REPORT: ‘AIR AMERICA’ TO FILE FOR BANKRUPTCY… and then they ‘STIFFS AL FRANKEN’… Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha……..LMAO ! [...]
September 14th, 2006 at 6:16 amI listened to Air America only twice–don’t recall who the hosts were for the shows I heard, but all I recall was that it was just ranting and name calling with no real content or discourse. Maybe I just happened to drop in on bad shows both times but it was enough to make me tune out and never come back.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:22 amThis is an email I sent to one of the hosts on Air America who had a debate with someone about who decides what’s in the media (I think it explains why the company is going into bankruptcy):
I was listening to your discussing with the Ayn Rand Institute guy and his opinion that consumers decide what is in the media and I disagree. I contend it is the advertisers (corporations) that determine what shows get on and stay on the air. For example, the cancellation of Bill Maher’s show on ABC after he agreed with a comment one of his guest made. The ratings for his show didn’t change but he lost advertisers. Other examples are Phil Donahue’s show and the shows on Air America. Advertisers (corporations) shun these shows not because of their ratings but because of the content. They would rather support an abysmally rated conservative show who will argue in favor of fascism than support a highly rated progressive show who will argue against it. Also, have you ever watched an infotainment newscast where it is brought to you by a corporation that does not sell to general public but to the government? This is done to reward (bribe) newscasts into reporting things that are favorable to corporations and discourage them from reporting news unfavorable to them.
One other thing, your guest made it seem as though it is easy to start an alternative media outlet. Not too many people in America have the money to compete with GE and other media owners making his suggestion unrealistic. I heard on Randi’s show a month ago about some Christian Broadcasting company buying a radio station just to get Air America off the air. I’m assuming that Air America could not counter the price that the Christian company was willing to pay and so they lost that station. Because media companies have become so large, there is little opportunity for average people or small companies to compete. The only place left to compete with these large corporations is the internet and the conservatives in Congress are trying to change that.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:22 amAir America failed because apart from a small percentage of left-wing nuts (the type of nut that believes the government orchestrated 911), noone on the left is really passionate about their political beliefs. Being liberal to most people in this nation is simply a fashion statement; an accessory, just like thier i-pod or prius.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:27 amWhat’s Air America?
September 14th, 2006 at 6:28 amP. Gerke, that was pretty funny.
Especially the point about sad little lives. I didn’t realize the left was so angry but to see you sputtering on like that was quite amusing. Call it schadenfreude, if you will, I’ve got a big smile on my face now.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:29 amReading the excuses and rationalizations of the liberals on this page for the demise of AA is hilarious. Is it any wonder that the left cannot ever run our economy…they think that Bankruptcy means you are doing well and moving ahead?
Talk about “out of touch”.
Does everything happen in liberal America because GWB won in 2000? Get a life progressives.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:35 amI have Sirius Radio. Ya’ll should listen to Mike Church on the Patriot Channel. :) Great Stuff!
September 14th, 2006 at 6:44 amLOL!
I guess that the drooling moonbats on the left can’t reach out to middle America! When you idiots do nothing but preach hate and discontent, NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR IT!
Adios moonbats. Please move to France with the other losers!
September 14th, 2006 at 6:45 amI am Very very saddend Buy this. But I heard most of my favorite programs can be heard on communist radio,- Al Frankin BUMMER.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:45 amWhat…..Air America is still on in some part of the country? I thought it had died out a couple of years ago. Does anyone who matters actually listen?
September 14th, 2006 at 6:46 amI love watching liberals go down in flames. You people deserve every lost election and trouble that comes your way. You’ve bought elections since the 30’s and now find out that you can’t compete with FREE THINKING!
You libsurgents won’t be missed!
September 14th, 2006 at 6:48 amIsn’t it at least unseemly for John Podesta to use the occasion of AAR’s misfortune to promote his own stuff?
Shame on you.
Carolyn Kay
September 14th, 2006 at 6:49 amMakeThemAccountable.com
THIS IS AWESOME. ANOTHER MASSIVE LOSS FOR THE LIBSURGENTS!
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September 14th, 2006 at 6:49 amWill someone please close the garbage can lid-the stinking maggots who feed on rot are infesting this site!!!
September 14th, 2006 at 6:56 amThe law of “opposite announcements” is in place, i.e., “We’re not going bankrupt!” (I’m paraphrasing)
Sure you’re not. Sounds to me like it’s only a matter of time.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:59 amAl Jehsira Carries All The News I want to heard. All Americans MUST listen Thanks yous.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:59 amHey SAPPERFIED, I didn’t quite understand you… Sounded like you were mumbling…
September 14th, 2006 at 7:09 amAmericans ARE BABYS KILLERS
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Now, I am charged with moving 110 million USD in cash out of Emiristan, and must find a progressive believing we can all live as one. Under UN Charpter and Geneva Inventions, a most trustworthy progressive is needed not likely taken by the CIA.
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Do not allow evil Bush to be aware of our highly confidential business deal. I know I can trust American progressive to know why.
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September 14th, 2006 at 7:28 amAnyone notice how the first 60 posts were all crying about the end of Air America but then the tide turned. The next 250 posts were cheering the exit of Springer, Franken, Rhodes, etc.
If the liberals can’t even generate enough people to dominate their own liberal web page, how can they compete with Rush in the open market? They refuse to accept the fact that they are a small, radical fringe group.
The Rush TV show was broadcast in New York at 2 A.M. The local stations buried it on purpose. If Air American started broadcasting at 2 A.M everyday, it would have gone down even faster. BTW, the Rush show wasn’t bankrolled with money stolen from the poor.
Smilin’ Bob
September 14th, 2006 at 7:32 amMatt (From Sept 13)
September 14th, 2006 at 7:40 amYou’re not allowed to say ‘God’ on our board. You know we liberals don’t like God or anything to do with him. Bad liberal! Bad Bad Bad!!!! Now go lay down.
Al franken was paid 2 million a year to do this show. The little people like me make under 22k a year and he is complaining about his pay. He should be doing his job for about the same as I get he is no better than me. Power to the people!!
September 14th, 2006 at 7:41 amAir America brought me back to listening to the radio. I listen to it almost all day at work using a walkman. It needs to use a different business model than right-wing radio. Air America listeners tend to be news junkies, passionate about politics, and fervently loyal listeners. Many of us used to listen to NPR until it started to muzzle itself.
September 14th, 2006 at 7:51 amWe read blogs. We are very well-informed. Air America should have tied itself into the blogs and all the tremendous, passionate support that could be out there for liberal radio. I would love to have heard regularly from the liberal journalists that are NEVER booked on the MSM. I love to hear from the top liberal blogging sites as well. Air America itself and its hosts should have been more responsive to listeners. There is a budding liberal infrastructure out there and Air America could help tie it together.
Why does Air America have no rich liberal supporters?
Danny Goldberg doesn’t have a sense of humor and should never have been put in charge of programming. That was a disastrous decision.
The hardcore liberal-left is 35% of the population. That is a potentially large audience. There are many more people who will listen in times like these, especially to very funny people like Stephanie Miller, who gets across the mendacity and incompetence of this administration with a lot of politically incorrect humor. (Liberals ARE funnier than right-wingers. Right-wing humor is sadistic; liberal humor is ironic, and therefore considerably more developed.) People are sick of Limbaugh and Hannity being the only people on the air. (In fact, I find those to fat-faced idiots offensive.)
Well, it looks like XM will be losing as well. I spend all my work hours driving all over the place and could only listen to Air America on satellite. If I don’t have Air America, I’m going to cancel my account with XM. They also recently dropped MSNBC from their playlist, which ticked me off, but I was willing to stay with them as long as Air America was there.
September 14th, 2006 at 7:51 amComment #303
Comment by P. Gerke — September 14, 2006 @ 6:10 am
It always amuses me that when libs accuse the conservatives of hate speech and name calling, they always try to make their point by engaging in more hate, venom and name calling than those they accuse.
September 14th, 2006 at 7:53 amJust face it, AA never was viable because it was something that only a few committed to the far left ever listened to. Most of the “conservative” radio shows have thinking listeners across the spectrum, so advertisers are willing to buy time.
Good riddance. Nothing more than psychotic, hate filled rants towards the right. If they actually backed up their claims with established facts rather than hysteria and lies, then maybe they would convert a few people.
They do nothing more than complain about how every problem in the world is a vast right wing conspiracy, offering neither proof, nor their own solution. I love how Dick Cheney and Haliburton are their bogey men.
I fear for the very existance of this country if the far left ever gets into power.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:02 amHey post #302, your condensending, clench-teethed rant is just another example of what is wrong with modern progessive (retro-liberal) group-think. You spew anger at having your ideas challenged, asserting that you own the truth, you own the “facts”, and anyone who doesn’t agree with you is an uninformed moron. Do you believe that Bush orchestrated the theft of the election in 2000? Do you put any credence in the theory that the federal government/Halliburton was behind 9/11? Do you agree that America has done more harm than good in the world over the past 50 years? If you answered “yes” to any of these questions, you are, to put it in medical terms, a looney, left-wing nutcase. And, more importantly, represent your views represent a minority in this country. That is why you have lost control of congress, the white house, and the majority of state governments over the past 15 years. As someone said above, most of us grow up and develop into conservatives. Liberalism is a lot like purberty, something most of us go through before responsibilities of life take over. Conservatives hate the damage done to our families, our communities, and our nation by the failed nutty social engineering experiments that liberals all always pushing. Liberals hate people and ideas that challenge their echo chamber, pot-impaired, star trek view of the world.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:03 am[...] This must be an example of that “higher level thinking” educrats are always talking about — when the only thing “high” about it are the boots you need to wade through it. Air America is going bankrupt, but “progressive” radio is stronger than ever! [...]
September 14th, 2006 at 8:07 amWithout a doubt, in one word, this thread has become…..
TROLLTASTIC!!!!
I find it odd that all of these right wingers come out for this story, not for the thousands of others that have appeared here daily, where we throw facts in their face about their leaders that they elected, about the lies that this administration is built on…oh well.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:21 amIt’s interesting that just about all the “trolls” that hate Air America do so because they never listen to it but they “know” it’s all lies and unfounded accusations. (I guess it came to them in a dream or something.)
So that means I can say “I never say ‘Path to 9-11′, but I ‘know’ that it was all lies and unfounded accusations!”
I wonder why there’s a double standard for ultra-radical right-whine trolls in this type of specious argument?
September 14th, 2006 at 8:29 amA crime detective would call this a clue. Maybe when people hear liberalism expoused on the radio, they’re repulsed. It’s depressing and very difficult to make sound good. Liberal politicians are always more successful when they deny they are liberals, so it should be of no surprise that liberalism on the radio won’t work. Not even most liberals can stand to listen to it.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:30 amThe left wing noise machine is just fine. All your base are belong to us.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:31 amThough I really rather listen to a drill as it spins it’s way into my tooth than listen to the drivel from any of the “talent” on Air America, the fact remains they provide a service for a small segment of the American population. For all of those who believe this blog’s leading story then check out “http://www.pardonmyenglish.com/archives/2006/01/welfair_america.html”
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It turns out that Air American has not and does not intend to file bankruptcy but is rather having some internal political turmoil.
Guess it truly does mean you can’t believe everything you read until you have researched the topic or the topic follows beliefs that you hold to be true.
Listen to Neil Boortz sometime… his church of the painful truth as well as Larry Elder are refreshing changes from the usual talk radio… if you like listening to people who abhor big government, love freedom, and hold someone responsible for their actions or their words.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:33 amCould you progressives just accept the fact that America just does not side with the the type of thinking you promote. The day your way of thinking gets in tuned with American values will be the day America will sit and listen. Accept defeat already, and there’s more to life than Bush bashing.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:35 am…and the invisible hand of the free market works its magic, as usual… I’m politically neutral, but here’s a little Radio 101 for you lefties, from a 20-year vet. of the business:
1) No audience = no ratings
2) No ratings = no advertisers
3) No advertisers = no revenue
I always said that as soon as the limosine liberals stop writing those big checks, AAR would dry up and blow away like a leaf in November. Looks like that day has arrived…
September 14th, 2006 at 8:37 amSay it ain’t so. I’ve been listening since its inception, and it was the first time since the Bush administration put its vice-grip on our government that I felt like I wasn’t going insane. I never felt that the station was managed correctly from the beginning, but it was like a port in the storm, and if anything happens to it, I will be very sad. Then there’s the Reich-wing gloating that we’ll have to endure, as if AAR’s misery made their position any more correct. Please, Mr. Soros, Mr. Turner… anyone sane and with money. Help.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:39 amHow depressing: Ann Richards has passed on and Air America is on life support.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:48 amI for one listen to the radio at work all day every day. Air America and Pacifica are what I listen to.
What you want to bet that every last one of the rightwingers will say when their side has had its way “well, we didn’t know what the government was doing.”
[...] Today’s the day that it’s been reported that Air America will file for bankruptcy. [...]
September 14th, 2006 at 8:48 amIt’s just as well. Those radio waves were probably sour anyway.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:51 amOhhh….booo hoooo…..liberals suck at radio!
September 14th, 2006 at 9:05 amHAHA Suckers!
How great it is for our democracy, the public can listen to political talk show and only hear waht right wingers have to say. How great it is for our democracy!
Let’s all rejoyce!
Yeah! Hannity, O’reilly, Coulter, Malkin, Ingraham, Limbaugh, Beck!
Keep brainwashing us, you’re doing such a great job!
George W. Bush, best president ever!!
Thank you guys!
September 14th, 2006 at 9:15 amHey Timmy;
I’m sure you suck at life. HAHA pansy.
September 14th, 2006 at 9:18 am“…and the invisible hand of the free market works its magic, as usual… I’m politically neutral, but here’s a little Radio 101 for you lefties, from a 20-year vet. of the business: ”
You are not politically Neutral you’re a troll.
1) No audience = no ratings The ratings were and are there they’re actually beating a good portion of rightwing radio.
2) No ratings= no advertisers Actually in this case the truth and the potential to sway voters equals no advertisers because the corporate world doesn’t want the cushy life of republican control to go away.
3) No advertisers = no revenue This part is true
I always said that as soon as the limosine liberals stop writing those big checks, See, this is how I know you are a troll, Limosine Liberal is a talking point.
September 14th, 2006 at 9:21 amcome on guys !
don’t you recognize an al franken prank when you see one ?
they’re doing fine :
listener numbers are going through the roof,
sponsors are beating down the doors to shovel heir money in,
the shows have never been funnier, pithier and on-target !
don’t fall for the gloom and doom, don’t worry BE HAPPY ! ! !
September 14th, 2006 at 9:22 amOn the upside, Ole whatsisname got booted off Dancing with the Stars last night…man was he a bigtime suckasaurus…..
September 14th, 2006 at 9:26 amDon’t worry my little left wing nuts. With the help of that hate/war monger Rush Limbaugh, your whining, handwringing opinions will continue to be heard. The audio clips of left wingers played on Rush’s show get more exposure than anything said on all the ‘proggressive’ radio shows put together. With his help, your views will be heard by millions. This is why you are losing–the more people know about you, the more they will abandon you.
September 14th, 2006 at 9:30 amHahahahahaha……. How AI managed to survive this long is beyond me! Losers!
September 14th, 2006 at 9:31 amERR America is dead because it sucked and noone listened to it ,while Franken and his cronies bilked loans and funding schemes from suckers to keep it afloat.
It was commen knowledge for anyone with a half a brain in this business to stay as far the hell away from the Err America sinking ship as possible.
Heck ,the kindiest thing its puppets say about it ,is that Franken is “boring”.What does that tell you?
September 14th, 2006 at 9:32 amBwahahahahahahah!
Enjoy the obscurity.
September 14th, 2006 at 9:32 amA sad day for the “progressive” community. Bwahahahaha…
September 14th, 2006 at 9:34 amAIR AMERICA BLOWS ILLEGAL ALIEN COCK!
DIE FRANKEN DIE!NOONE LISTENED!
IF A FRANKEN CRASHED IN THE FOREST WOULD ANYONE HEAR IT?
September 14th, 2006 at 9:36 amHEAD ON–apply directly to the forehead!
September 14th, 2006 at 9:40 amHEAD ON–apply directly to the forehead!
HEAD ON–apply directly to the forehead!
AIR AMERICA BANKRUPT BECAUSE NOONE LISTENS TO IT? I AM SHOCKED I TELL YOU,IM SHOCKED!
September 14th, 2006 at 9:41 am“Please, Mr. Soros, Mr. Turner… anyone sane and with money. Help.”
This speaks volumes. The supposed movement for the common working man is now controlled by leftist billionaires who pull their strings. Can anyone say “ACORN”? The Dems all have to lick Soros’ boots or they get the Lieberman treatment. What a shame and embarrassment.
The Republican/conservative movement tends to get its money from smaller donations from real people. Meanwhile, conservative radio survived and thrived with little to no financial aid, because it actually has a message and moral compass. People listen becasue they something worth listening to! Conservative books, which have had to use smaller publishers and had less money to promote them, blow their liberal counterparts away.
“Bush is an idiot”, “Choice to kill our unborn children” and “Cut and run” are not big resonators with America. Get some real ideas. Get a moral compass. Until then, your radio and books will fail. Thank God.
September 14th, 2006 at 9:42 am“Most of the “conservative†radio shows have thinking listeners across the spectrum”
BWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHHH. Thinking? If Bush told you to march into the gas chambers you’d ask “Is today good for you?”. What a loser. By the way, why aren’t you in Iraq, supporting Dear Leader?
September 14th, 2006 at 9:43 amI will have some of what post 349 is smoking!!!
September 14th, 2006 at 9:45 amWhen are you guys going to wake up. I have voted Dem all of my life, including Al Gore. Campaigned for McGoverna, Dukakis and Mondale, but what you call progressives have destroyed the party. It is all about hate and screaming now. Where has the thoughtful concerned party gone. I actually voted for Bush this last time because I felt there was some sincerity and commitment to a belief, not simply mindless “I hate” therefore “I am” critisizing of anyone with a differing view. Wake up guys Michael Moore, Sean Penn, and the rest of the Hollywood fools are not leaders they are guilt ridden mindless props that have nothing meaningful to add – they only take away. I am waiting for the party to come back to its’ senses.
September 14th, 2006 at 9:48 am“The Republican/conservative movement tends to get its money from smaller donations from real people. Meanwhile, conservative radio survived and thrived with little to no financial aid, because it actually has a message and moral compass. People listen becasue they something worth listening to! Conservative books, which have had to use smaller publishers and had less money to promote them, blow their liberal counterparts away. ”
Wow. I guess this wingtard has never heard of Dickie Scaife, the Coors family, and the Olin foundation.
September 14th, 2006 at 9:48 am“BOTH of us want to influence America in our favor. Our methods are different, though. You, Brother Arafat, use arms. I use words.”
“Struggle, Brother Ceausescu! Armed struggle and terror are the only things America respects.”
“You, Brother Yasser, were here in 1972, and you are here now. You can see for yourself that nothing has changed in Romania in that time. We are still the same Communist country, where private property is not only prohibited–it is a disgrace. But the West now loves me. Two American presidents have come to Romania since I started my ´Horizon´ operation, none before. Now, in the past six years alone, I have gotten twelve billion dollars in Western credits–two billion a year. Ten years ago, the most important technological intelligence Romania could pry out of America was about hybrid corn. Now Bucharest is one of the best in the Warsaw Pact at collecting high tech inteligence on America.”
“Is that really true?”
“It is not only what I think, it´s what Brezhnev just told me.”
“Amazing.”
“Before I started my ´Horizon´ operation, I couldn´t export anything to America. All I did was import their high tech. Now my exports almost equal my imports, and in ten years the balance will be ten to one in my favor. Five years ago I had barely a dozen intelligence officers over in America. Now I have five times that many, the ambassador included, and in a couple of years it´ll be ten times that many. And what has America gotten out of it all? Shit. Nothing but shit.”
September 14th, 2006 at 9:52 amUmm yeah because Ken Lay, and the oil companies represent the “little guy” jees what the hell are you smoking? I mean really? We represent the little people, uh sure thing dude what about all of those huge contributions from major corporations all over the US?
Just keep saying it, soon it won’t matter.
September 14th, 2006 at 9:52 am“BWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHHH. Thinking? If Bush told you to march into the gas chambers you’d ask “Is today good for you?â€. ”
Good, just follow the talking points. Don’t think for yourself. Look what happened to Lieberman when he dared to be a man. Don’t use rational argument, just attack. Throw enough crap and maybe some will stick.
Sad, the state of what was once a well reasoned and necessary counterpoint to the Right.
September 14th, 2006 at 9:54 amI am very disheartened to hear that Air America might be silent. It is a great source for garnering more support for Republican ideals.
September 14th, 2006 at 9:56 am[...] Well, it looks like those poor black kids in New York won’t get any money from the liberal radio network (oxymoronic!). Air America has filed for bankruptcy. [...]
September 14th, 2006 at 9:59 amIf Air America does fail it’s because it tells the truth. The truth doesn’t play well in George’s (Orwell and Bush) America, where half the populace STILL thinks Sadam had WMDs. All you right-wing nutcases may soon get your wish. Someday, you’ll be sorry for what has become of your country.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:03 amAAR is fine. They will restructure and continue for several more years as it stands. Let the wingnuts dance around like cockroaches. lol
September 14th, 2006 at 10:07 amThe collapse of the Soviet Union was staged.
The collapse of Air America was not.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:09 am“In 1999-2000 the GOP collected about $216 million in small contributions to its federal committees – about 46 percent of its overall revenues. The Democratic Party was much more reliant on large contributions, drawing only 23 percent of its money from donors giving $200 or less.”
Eat it.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:09 amI’m not a liberal per se, but I’m sorry to here that Air America is struggling financially. I’m all for BOTH sides having the opportunity to get their messages out to the masses so that EVERYONE, no matter what party affiliation, has the information to make informed decisions. Without opposing views and an abundence of information how could we operate as a society.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:11 amWow…I think every remaining Bush supporter trolled this thread. For 30%, they sure are loud.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:14 amHee hee hee…….only in the dim liberal universe is the bankruptcy of radical left wing Radio is thus, we are ensured, considered ’strong’….
Hee hee hee……..Boy oh boy…..now what pray tell will you 200 listeners of Randi et al now do?? Join Hizballah I suppose…..
Snort…Chuckle…..
September 14th, 2006 at 10:19 amJRN: Analysts should not underestimate the left. Neither should they underestimate the alliances formed with Arab terrorist groups and the environmentalists. The combining of various discontented groups will doubtless produce surprising results across the board. The L.A. riots are a good example. The communists and their front groups hijacked existing discontent and set up teams with gasoline cans and matches. Trained incendiaries set a lot of buildings on fire in a surprisingly short period of time. Now replicate that kind of situation across an entire country. These were revolutionary acts perpetrated by Marxists. The media ignored the role that communists played in the riots. One must watch this carefully because the left has a strong hold on politically active minority groups. In these groups the communists and their foreign supporters have a powerful weapon for creating pre-war diversions, for tying down troops and masking decapitation strikes against national governments. — J.R. Nyquist
September 14th, 2006 at 10:22 amHahahahahahahahahahahahahaha the format sucks that’s why nobody is listening. Keep your liberal Billionairs throwing money at something that will never work. Hahahahahahahaahaha
September 14th, 2006 at 10:22 amDing dong, the witch is dead…
Which old witch?
That Randi bitch!
Ding dong, that frigid bitch is dead!
(radio wise that is)
September 14th, 2006 at 10:22 amDidn’t Air America get started with a lineup of comedians and a hip hop artist? Speaks volumes.
Some of your biggest voices are comics, actors and a fat slob who makes “documentaries” (LMAO). Conservative media actually possesses highly-educated people with experience and degrees in government and law. Your idea of substance is clowns like Franken and Maher.
You have no ideas! You are the party of “No”. “No Bush” but NO freaking alternatives either! Pathetic.
Have any of you actually stopped to think why Fox crushes CNN, despite CNN’s being there first? Why you could fit all of MSNBC’s veiwers into a VW Bug? Why virtually every attempt by libs to get into radio over the years has been a humiliating failure? Why the lefty network news has seen ratings drop by about 50% since 1980?
You are losing your stranglehold on information (propaganda) and the people now have a choice. Your messages are empty losers. And they always will be. People don’t have to listen to your BS anymore. Choice arrives and you are now losing. Enjoy. Bon appetit!
September 14th, 2006 at 10:30 amSuch hogwash!
>>>In fact, Air America succeeded at creating something that didn’t exist: the progressive talk radio format.
That format has been in use since I did talk radio.
The attempt at making “progressive politics” the featured subject is not very successful for a number of reasons. There are two primary reasons: the hosts presume you can follow their far-out left-arm conspiracy logic without background and then, without substantive footing, begin a rant.
Very effective with mentally unstable people; very ineffective with reasoning people.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:33 am[Widespread terrorist and sabotage operations in advance of World War III] are known officially in the GRU as the “preparatory period,” and unofficially as the “overture.” The overture is a series of large and small operations the purpose of which is, before actual military operations begin, to weaken the enemy’s morale, create an atmosphere of suspicion, fear and uncertainty, and divert the attention of the enemy’s armies and police forces to a huge number of different targets, each of which may be the object of the next attack.
The overture is carried out by agents of the secret services of the Soviet satellite countries and by mercenaries recruited by intermediaries. The principal method employed at this stage is “gray terror,” that is, a kind of terror which is not conducted in the name of the Soviet Union. The Soviet secret services do not at this stage leave their visiting cards, or leave other people’s cards. The terror is carried out in the name of already existing extremist groups not connected in any way with the Soviet Union, or in the name of fictitious organizations.
VIKTOR SUVOROV, Spetsnaz
September 14th, 2006 at 10:34 amI wonder if all the trolls will come back to say “Ooops, I was just plain wrong!” when Air America does NOT fold?
No, they have no ethics other than to follow the lemming pack, just like all good neo-con dead-head zombies.
I guess they’re all ignoring the news and simply following links from ultra-rabid right-whine sites to this one and just following orders to “spew chunks like good little programmed dummies”. Good going, guys! Keep up the pathetic work, trolls!
September 14th, 2006 at 10:34 amThere’s a great untapped audience out there for unbiased talk radio, the kind that looks at every issue from the point of view of common sense only and is intellectually honest. AirAmerica should’ve tried that instead of filling their roster almost exclusively with extreme partisans and conspiracy nuts.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:35 amAA going under (#15) is “…definitely a good sign”???? Dream on. Yes, and the Hindenberg disaster did wonders for the airship industry. AA is simply “on the ropes”? Nice sentiment, but investors/advertisers don’t line up to keep failing and unpopular (and unprofitable) operations above water (see Jim “Notower” Hightower just so you losers can continue to have your pity party. It is so apt that AA is going bankrupt – in the marketplace of ideas, you libs have always been bankrupt.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:35 amHey! Slow down here! We are confusing bankruptcy (which AAR has not yet declared) with the end of a business. Lots of companies, including most major US Airlines (United, Delta, Northwest, ATA…) have declared bankruptcy – and continue to operate. They use it as a way to discard debt and restructure to survive. This is what AAR would almost certainly do – IF they actually declare bankruptcy. They have a new schedule coming out Sept 18th, with the Young Turks, Rachel Maddow in the late afternoon slot and other good changes. Stay tuned – this is a voice we need in America.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:36 am#379 – “Very effective with mentally unstable people”
Ahh! So THAT’S why Rush Limbaugh has done so well with the brain-dead sheeple that listen to his show!
September 14th, 2006 at 10:40 amLooks like more trolls following links from ultra-radical right-whine sites and NOT actually checking into the truth that Air America is NOT going bankrupt!
Go ahead, trolls! Make fools of yourself! Pardon, make even BIGGER fools of yourselves!
September 14th, 2006 at 10:42 am#384 – ABQ-Tom, any news on if they’ll be moving Ed Schultz to a new slot?
I love listening to Rachel Madow in the morning, but I’ll get to listen to more of her in the evening!
Thanks for the TRUE update!
September 14th, 2006 at 10:43 am“I guess they’re all ignoring the news and simply following links from ultra-rabid right-whine sites to this one and just following orders to “spew chunks like good little programmed dummiesâ€.”
This from the folks who listen to ex-SNL writers?
Have you ever actually listened to conservative radio? Highly-regarded journalists, authors, scholars and actual politicians appear regularly. And they tend to actually invite Democratic Party and left-leaning counterpoints!
Air America, in contrast, offers cheap shots, rants and potty humor from Al Franken and Friends. But what should we expect from folks who are willing to protest (violently if need be) to ensure the right to kill the unborn, yet will strap themselves to a tree or a rock to ensure said tree or nearby small creature aren’t threatened? What f***ed up people you are. No wonder you lose.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:48 amSo that is AARs big plan.
Use the federal courts to skip out on their debts, and try to find some other group of widows and orphans to steal operating funding from?
September 14th, 2006 at 10:51 amPermit me to join in the chorus of howls of derisive, mocking laughter at the sheer ignorance of you supposedly “beter-than-thou” Lefties concerning your inabilities to grasp the functions of free-market forces. Simply put, if Air America was able to actually generate interest it wouldn’t have to cry bankrupt. The fact that it is an off-putting, ranting, ignorant, insubstantial load of broadcast bovine excretia whose only uniqueness is the facts that it is able to defy the laws of physics by being able to both suck AND blow at the same time, is nothing which would appeal to a broad, non-niche oriented market.
The unintentionally-comedic ignorance is further evidenced by the comment made above calling for some Daddy Gotbux like Teddy Kennedy or George Soros to ride in on a sliver Prius and save the day…make up your marijuana-toasted minds: either the Left HATES the rich (like the Kennedys, Kerry, Soros, et. al) and wants to make the marches to advance the greater Socialist cause for the Proletariat OR you accept the advantages of free-market Capitalism which gives rise to those folks to whom you call upon, pleading on your knees, to salvage the blatantly unsuccessful failure that is/was Air America.
Let me anticipate the reflexive conniptions of rage which this post will generate by thanking you in advance for your predictability in being hyper emotional in any responses which will be unable to refute the inarguable truth of the points made…not to mention the endless belly laughs!
September 14th, 2006 at 10:59 amI’m not surprised and they have nobody to blame but the idiots running the company. Hiring Springer was a huge mistake – DULL. Morning Sedition was the best radio show anywhere, but they cut that one out and put in it’s place a dullard whose attempts at humor are painful to bear. Al, well Al is just a wimp and not anywhere near as interesting as Al thinks he is. Then they fired Malloy who is the only one left on the air with any courage to let it fly.
Good riddance.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:04 am[...] Air America denies bankruptcy rumor. So who started it? [...]
September 14th, 2006 at 11:07 am#388 – “Have you ever actually listened to conservative radio? Highly-regarded journalists, authors, scholars and actual politicians appear regularly. And they tend to actually invite Democratic Party and left-leaning counterpoints!”
Ha! What a joke! Have you ever tried to call into Rush Limbaugh? If you don’t “ditto” his opinions 110%, you will never make it on his show. Every now and again, he’ll make the false claim that he doesn’t screen his callers, but they still do it.
Have you ever listened to Ed Schultz? He doesn’t screen his callers, and he actually listens to the anti-free speech ramblers! I’m amazed by his “anyone can call” approach.
Rachel madow has had Pat Buchanan on her show, not that Pat is a scholar or a Highly-regarded journalist. She’s had a number of politicians on her show. So has Ed Schults, as well as both pro-left and pro-right authors, scholars, and actual Afghanistan/iraq war veterans that are pro-Dem & pro-Rep! You’ll NEVER hear about a pro-Dem showing up on Rush Limbaugh’s show.
Just because I listen to some of the people on Air America doesn’t mean I lsten to them all! Do you listen to the rantings and raving of Malkin? That’s one harpy that gives a bad name to humans, much less ultra-rabid right-whiners.
Wow, and here I though some of the trolls actually used their brains. This sad poster proves they just spew the party line given to them by someone else.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:09 amI landed here by mistake from Drudge…
September 14th, 2006 at 11:11 amThis is a human being blog, no?
In the real world when you lose u do not call
it a WIN, in the real world when your side is
in the minority, you do not talk about the majority
of the country thinking like u, and of course when
you lose an election you do not blame the voting
machines, the press, the right, the terrorists, or racism…
YOU BLAME THE MAJORITY THAT ENJOYS LIVING IN
REAL WORLD – TRY IT, YOU MIGHT LIKE IT….
“Liberal views are systematically given short shrift on the broadcast media and the print media. Only the Internet, so far, has genuine freedom of the press, where liberals have a fair chance to air their views, and the corporate conglomorates are trying to take control of it too.”
This has got to be one of the most absurd statements ever made. NY Times anyone? I suppose they are hardline right-wingers? LMAO!!! LA Times? ABC, CBS, NBC? The likes of Dan Rather? The major network news is conservative I suppose? Comrade Katie Couric, anyone? Each of the major network news broadcasts still possesses about 3x the viwership of Fox News. That’s EACH.
“Short shrift?”. How can anyone say that and maintain even a modicum of self-respect? GET HELP!
September 14th, 2006 at 11:15 amIn regard to post 346, no one ever said that Bush is the president ever. You’ll find a lot criticism about George W. Bush from the right. But let us look at what the liberal Democrats produced for presidents in my lifetime.
John Kennedy, sure he was a womanizer, failed in the Bay of Pigs operation but, he was an optimist, he got his on the way to the moon. He revived the economy by cutting taxes, something no post modern Democrat would ever do. He also hung tough in the Cuban missile crisis. I give him a B+.
Lyndon Johnson, well he failed to achieve victory in Vietnam by micromanaging the effort. A war that he was pretty much was responsible for America’s involvement. He failed to raise taxes pay for it and increased social spending at the same time, setting us up for the collapse of the Social Security pyramid scheme. I’ll be kind and give him a C-.
Jimmy Carter the America hater. His failed policies in Central America and Iran are legendary. I’ll give him a D-.
Billy Boy Clinton, the terrorist were plotting 911 on his watch. The CIA and FBI could not share intelligence because of his corrupt administration. He numerous opportunities to take out Bin Laden but would never answer Sandy Berger to give the go ahead until it was too late. I have to give him a F.
As far as GW Bush goes I give him a C.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:15 amWHAT A GREAT POST !!!!!
September 14th, 2006 at 11:18 amThis Is Fun Being On A Blog With All Delusional People…
I May Visit More Often..,
Oh, Bye The Way, Do Delusional People Know They Are
September 14th, 2006 at 11:32 amDelusional And Don’t Care Or They Really Just Don’t Know??
Which Is It & Why Does It Affect The Left So Severely?
Peter Mac – hope you visit often. This place is extremely entertaining. You will hear theories never imagined, distortions of the truth that James Carvell could not contrive, hate on level that OBL would be impressed, and excuses that would rival the most lazy ass people you have ever met.
Just be prepared that when you provide any kind of evidence they go into to the Clinton mode of asking what your definition of ” is” is.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:41 amJust reading the hateful comments from the reichwingers here points up the absolute need for progressive voices on the PUBLIC airwaves, including Randi Rhodes, Mike Molloy, Rachel Maddow and Stephanie Miller.
Good grief. The reichers don’t recognize how steeped in hatred they are.
It makes me sick.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:45 amWow, these right-wing trolls are really impressing us with thier intellect.
The simple fact is that more conservatives view/listen to media than liberals. That has always been behind the success of Fox, not that they’re stealing CNN and network viewers to be the most watched, but simply that they cater to a segment that watches the most news. AAR hopefully will survive (and thrive) but we shouldn’t expect it to reach the levels the right-wing programming achieves. Where we do thrive is in the area of computers, blogging and forums, etc as this is our genre. This is where we exchange ideas and discourse, as opposed to being one-sided and having our hateful opinions spoon-fed to us and spewing the same old tired, grade-school responses on blogs in an attempt to raise our ire.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:46 amMy listening to Air America tapered off quite a bit during the past yar. They needed different hosts. Al Franken continued to make the same points over and over again for months at a time, even years, and it got stale, and some of his attempts at humor were pretty ridiculous. Randi Rhodes shrill sarcasm was too much to take and reminded me of the right wing ranters. Actually, some of the people that took over for Franken when he’s been on vacation were better, such as Joe Conason.
Air America still remains big in Portland, OR. When it started up, they were practically giving away commercial time. Now the local station’s rates are among the highest in the market.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:46 amAll false claims straight out of Path to 911 thoroughly debunked on this site. The scene with Sandy Berger refusing to give the go ahead was complete fiction – never happened – completely contradicts the 911 commission report.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:47 amThe truth is hidden in Sandy Burglar’s shorts and socks. I wonder why he put those documents there? Why wasn’t he prosecuted?
PS: What was Gorelick doing on the 9/11 Commission when it was a policy she was instrumental in implementing that led to the intelligence failures thet permitted 9/11 to happen?
September 14th, 2006 at 11:53 amFrom Radio Equalizer:
Carolyn Kay
September 14th, 2006 at 11:54 amMakeThemAccountable.com
It’s going to take a while to get the neocon smell off this site. P-U!!!!!
Shows the level of vermin that reads drudge, that’s for sure. Funny how the biggest conservative mouthpieces are a 3-time divorced drug addict and a closeted homosexual.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:59 am“….depress Air America’s value.”
Is this even possible? How does one depress the nonexistent?
September 14th, 2006 at 12:01 pmI love Rush but began listening to Ed Schultz and Randi Rhodes to get the other side. I was hoping to be educated from the left but the main message was hate. Substance was missing. This format may work for rallying a mob, but the thinking person will see through this quickly.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:02 pmAs far as having a rich person for a sponsor, there’s always George Sorros. And you know how ratings relate to advertising time value.
Air America needs to substantive.
It’s all about advertising. You market to your audience. In the case of Air America, they should have pushed Kleenex (for all the boo-hooing), flag burning kits, body piercing, Birkenstocks and “alternative smoking products”. :D
Good riddance. Don’t fret, however, Katie Couric will keep up the fight on her “news” program.
This is all TOO FUNNY.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:05 pm[...] … From the first moment your Radio Equalizer heard about the report from lefty blog site Think Progress that [Air America Radio] would announce this move on Friday, it just didn’t smell right. Three independent sources are really claiming this to be true? [...]
September 14th, 2006 at 12:06 pmRemember when it was only NAZIS who used terms like INFESTED and RABID when discussing JEWS
Now it is CONSERVATIVES using those terms to describe American Citizens they want to disempower and dominate.
Very sad to see America go through what Germany, Italy and many other countries have gone through. The masses (and yes that is what the majority of Republican voters are at this point) controlled by an elite that has turned them against action for their own best interest.
Classic bottom level scum politics has destroyed yet another country.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:09 pmGermany came back – but not until it had to destroy itself.
God Bless America – and may it’s citizens wake up.
The Democratic Party Platform:
Raise Taxes
Pro-Right to Kill Babies
Pro-Legislate from the Bench
Pro-Cut and Run
Pro-Slandering the Troops
Hate Bush to the Point of Aiding Our Enemies
No Answers
Have I missed anything?
September 14th, 2006 at 12:11 pmIt’s upsetting to hear Air America in trouble. It would be a great loss to the American public.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:16 pmI really enjoyed Thom Hartman. He appeared to always approach topics by being well prepared (research). He also appears to be level headed, insightful, and analytical in his approach. I do hope he will continue to be available to the radio public.
Rachel Maddow has made some good points, but doesn’t quite have the same level of calibar as T. Hartman
Randi Rhodes may have a good message, but it gets lost with her abrasive, repetitive approach.
Hey MKA+Atlanta,
Yes you are missing something.
Anything new.
We’ve heard all that tired, generalized rhetoric already from every talking head on Fox.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:24 pmPost 422: Seek help.
Conservatices are for SMALLER government. EMPOWERING the INDIVIDUAL rather than making them dependent on the STATE. YOUR policies are what keep an entire group of millions of people dependent on handouts and screaming “victim”, while you point the finger at us and promise them a check.
Have you no shame?
September 14th, 2006 at 12:25 pmemrenz:
You are correct. Nothing new. From you, that is. No new ideas. No substance. No answers. Just helluva lot of Bush hate.
What I wrote is NOT new. It is old. It continues to be true. And sad. And encapsulates modern liberalism.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:29 pmI sure hope this does not happen, this station (and ALL the hosts) have saved my sanity! I LISTEN to it on-line all day while I work. (on dial up) I am in one of those “sincliar/clearchanel” areas & of course the only “progressive” radio for 200 miles is NPR. Whatever you do please make a FREE alternative available on-line, it’s the only way many of us will hear the FACTS!
SURE you can trust the government, ask any Indian.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:30 pmAnd were it someone in your family that somehow fell upon hard times you would simply cast them to the wolves, I suppose. I mean no one should ever be offered a hand up in the world. Believing we’re about “writing checks to everyone” is an over-simplistic view, my friend.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:32 pmI agree with # 419 above. I have tried to listen to left radio, and most of them, especially Rhandi Rhodes, have nothing but hate and name-calling. Al of their creaive energies seem to go to coming up with clever names to call people, instead of analysis of the issues (especially true of Stephanie Miller). The hosts on the left seem to be very condescending, and talk down to their listeners, especially those that don’t agree with them. I do not like to listen to someone who is constantly calling me awful names, call me crazy.
When you listen to Rush, whether you agree or not with him, you learn something, and you get to hear interesting and thought-provoking analysis of the issues. Any names he uses for people are restricted to politicians and public figures who have thrown themselves into the debate, and thus, are fair game. But he does not call average Americans names, unlike left radio.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:34 pmI’m glad this Post has attracted a lot of reich wing windbags that equate the possibility that Air America might be filing for bankruptcy with the notion that we progrssives are the minority.
You’re puppet president, our liar and chief is the one who is morally bankrupt he should be shown the door along with dead eye Dick Cheney. So keep on listening to Rush Lintball, Faux News, Bill O’Really and Sean Slantitty for your lame talking points. We progressives on the other hand will continue seeking out truth and justice the Air America way.
The reason that Air America Radio was formed was to shed light on the way in which our corporate run media pulls the strings of our political leaders and vice versa. The way in which they suppress certain information, reveals certain facts, in order to cover up lies and corruption that in turn are hurting our political institutions at home and abroad. So as long as the American people are subject to listening to propaganda and talking points being handed down by corporate run media hounds rather than being told the truth there will always be a need for alternative news outlets like Air America Radio. I say bravo to Air America and long live the progressive movement that has only just begun to expose the corruption that goes on in this current administration
So to all you right-wingers out there I say give a listen AAR. In this pond Progressive knowledge, the truth can be most refreshing.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:37 pmemrenz:
Ever hear of charity? Private donation?
I do not push for the elimination of a safety net, but it has gone too far. Since the birth of the modern welfare state, incarceration rates have skyrocketed. Ditto birth out of wedlock and the marginalization of the traditional family unit, creating a vicious cycle. Government programs are notoriously inefficient, corrupt and ineffective. And don’t get me started on the schools. Throw more money! Oh, it’s getting worse? Throw more! No school vouchers! No testing for teachers! Get the teacher union’s votes and $$$!
Awful.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:41 pmMKA+Atlanta ,
Please, PLEASE, quote one line of Bush-hate from what I wrote here today.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:41 pmDefinition of “unhinged”: RW trolls on this thread.
Seriously, get your doctor to up the meds. And learn to spell.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:42 pmDigTruth:
Airbag America’s biggest voice is a foul-mouthed ex-SNL writer with virtually zero other credentials. Law degree? Government experience?
September 14th, 2006 at 12:48 pmemrenz:
Who accused you specifically?
September 14th, 2006 at 12:49 pmA Quick Poll>>>
If The Left Loses In Nov. – Who Will They Blame:
> BUSH
> ROVE
>VOTING MACHINES
> PRESS
> RACISM
> THE PUBLIC
NOT AVAILABLE TO VOTE ON – LIBERALISM/LATITUDINARIANISM
September 14th, 2006 at 12:49 pm“The Democratic Party Platform:”
Raise Taxes:
I would raise taxes on the richest 1% of Americans. They’ll hardly notice, and no it DOES NOT TRICKLE DOWN. That’s a myth created by the wealthy that want to keep more of their money.
Pro-Right to Kill Babies:
I’m 44. 18-year-olds dying in an unjust, created Iraq war is the same thing to me.
Pro-Legislate from the Bench:
Laws are often open to interpretation, not unlike religion.
Pro-Cut and Run:
Please quote any Democrat that has said we should “Cut and Run†We should set a timeline to get out. I don’t thing the US should “Stay and Pay.â€
Pro-Slandering the Troops:
Slandering the troops to many conservatives is speaking out against the war. Encouraging them to fight in an unjust, unnecessary war is worse, and frankly, un-American.
Hate Bush to the Point of Aiding Our Enemies:
So it’s true. We aren’t fond of him. Should we lie and encourage him to make still more decisions that we disagree with? That’s the one that makes the least amount of sense to me. If we believe his policies harm our nation, how does falsely embracing his ideas improve things?
No Answers:
I believe these meet the definition of answers.
Have I missed anything?
September 14th, 2006 at 12:55 pmAbout the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:
“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy,which is always followed by a dictatorship.”
“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progbressed through the following sequence:
1. Bondate to spiritual faith
2. Spiritual faith to great courage
3. Courage to liberty
4. Liberty to abundance
5. Abundance to complacency
6. Complacenty to apathy
7. Apathy to dependence”
Population of counties won by: Gore 127 million; Bush 143 million
Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000; Bush 2,427,000
States won by: Gore: 19; Bush: 29
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore: 13.2, Bush: 2.1
In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:57 pmGore’s territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare.
The U.S. is now somewhere between the “complacenty and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some 40% of the nation’s populatin having reached the “governmental dependency” phase.
I figured out how Air America Radio can stay on the air! Yes it will require some changes, but their mission and values can continue. I suggest the following schedule changes to boost listenership (all times Pacific):
6:00am-9:00am: Laura Ingraham
September 14th, 2006 at 12:58 pm9:00am-12:00pm: Rush Limbaugh
12:00pm-3:00pm: The Sean Hannity Show
3:00pm-6:00pm: The Savage Nation with Michael Savage
6:00pm-9:00pm: The Michael Reagan Show
9:00pm-11:00pm: The Bill O’Reilly Show
11:00pm-6:00am: Paid Advertising
200 years eh? Maybe it’s time for it to all come crumbling down and we can truly build a utopian society!
September 14th, 2006 at 1:06 pmRJP3 – #422:
I suggest you search this page and discover which side has thrown the terms “INFEST” and “RABID” more often, conservatives or liberals. You will be unpleasantly surprised. You’ll find the same unpleasant answer regarding Nazi comparisons. And some of you dare to accuse conservatives exclusively of hate? Look around at your own side first.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:06 pmRight/Male Left/Female
I can’t hate the right because one must have compassion for those who live in fear. It is an aspect of the ego afraid of the freedom of the heart and it’s natural closeness to the expansiveness of God. Fear wants to confine and control. It has a place for male dominated religion but not God within.
This is why the right is so afraid of such simple things as condoms and people having sex. One has to let go to have an orgasm. It is a spiritual experience that takes one out of control and this creates a moment of openness and thus fear for the controlling ego. In that moment it has to experience the truth, that it is very small feeble and fragile. The right is very rigid and male.
When I took care of horses the alpha male at the head of the pecking order was the most fearful of them all.
Those who love are more feminine in nature expansive and spiritual (not necessarily religious) human beings and need not control or fear life or death. They are naturally closer to the soul and it’s eternal nature.
As a male I respect the more feminine nature of the left tho some types of helpfulness only breeds more helplessness.
Go after the Taliban, yes. Kill 100,000 Iraqis, how sad.
Go forward Air America you are wonderful.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:10 pmMKA+Atlanta,
You did. I quote: “You are correct. Nothing new. From you, that is. No new ideas. No substance. No answers. Just helluva lot of Bush hate.”
September 14th, 2006 at 1:11 pmConservative Radio: Free enterprise at work.
Air America: Free enterprise at work.
NPR: Your tax dollars at work.
The people at Air America just didn’t understand the free enterprise business model.
If NPR wasn’t paid by tax dollars, it would die like Air America.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:15 pmGood Riddance,
Thank you for your post. I had heard pieces of Tyler’s theory, but never the complete theory.
However, you have provided evidence that liberals truly are “progressives” – they have progressed all the way to the “dependence” state.
How do you liberals answers these staggering facts?
Square miles of land won by: Gore: 580,000; Bush 2,427,000
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Gore: 13.2, Bush: 2.1
September 14th, 2006 at 1:16 pmPost # 439 RIGHT OUT OF THE PARK>>>>>>>
IT IS FAR, IT IS HIGH,IT IS DEEP, IT IS GONE !!!
LIBS Are Having A Hard Time Today…
September 14th, 2006 at 1:18 pmHow Come???
Ideas, Facts, Sanity, What Is It…
As an AAR junkie I was wondering when the benefactors would tighten their purse on the shows that had no ratings. I admit it was crushing to see a show like Majority Report, which pioneered a seamless radio merging with the blogs, consistently show no ratings over the years. And lately it has become increasingly apparent that the start-up trial period for these shows was stretching beyond reason and the axe would have to fall.
Ratings have consistently shown only Franken and Rhodes with marketable ratings on AAR, while Stephanie Miller (arguably the funniest show on radio as fellow coffee-spitters will confrim) and Ed Schultz lead the pack on AAR affiliates even though they are owned separately by Clear Channel affiliate P1, which seems positioned perfectly to pick up where/when/if AAR fails with many profitable libtalk stations and literally hundreds of other stations they might be more willing to add to the libtalk mix when they control the programming.
I should mention here that there is still a lurking suspicion that Clear Channel’s participation in filling out the AAR network, done surely to hedge their far-right radio position when and if Dems return to power, might be some kind of dirty trick, or that they might somehow be persuaded by their GOP allies to dump the whole project. But with their Portland and Seattle stations at the top of the ratings, Los Angeles’ KTLK so loaded with mainstream commercials as to demonstrate the viability of the overall project, and the only apparent hindrance to smooth sales in other cities being the fact that many of their progtalk seedlings have very poor signals and could later be swapped with better CC station in each market, then it would be commercially suicidal to dump a format that Talkers magazine has recently called “the fastest growing segment of radio.”
In fact, I will go out on a limb here to say that having the whole progtalk project default to Clear Channel might be the best possible thing as they have the sales operation, loose stations, and national coverage to assure that their new progressive division (who the President left to found) P1 could go all the way.
Meanwhile, AAR’s trials and tribulations are like those of a family member and let’s hope they do well with the Young Turks, Sam Seder finds his long overdue ratings, Rachel Maddow is moved to the news division to grace us with her crystalline intellect hourly (not to mention election anchoring), and wry Al continues to provide the smartest guests on radio, Randi gives em the hell they’ve earned, and Air America radio earns a Murrow-like place in taking back our country, fortified by a wised-up Clear Channel.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:21 pm[...] As Allah says: You weren’t good enough, you weren’t smart enough, and gosh darn it, nobody liked you. Filed under: The Loony Left • [...]
September 14th, 2006 at 1:22 pmRe: 446
I’m a liberal from a two-income household, we own our home in the suburbs of Phoenix. We have two kids and a dog, collect no welfare and murdered no one and don’t even own a gun.
And we both voted for Gore.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:23 pmCONS > GIVE ME THE FACTS
September 14th, 2006 at 1:23 pmLIBS > HIDE THE FACTS
emrenz:
“The Democratic Party Platform:â€
Raise Taxes:
I assume you are not amongst the top 1%. Easy to hit the other guy. The fact is that tax increases hurt growth. Growth means jobs. Jobs mean tax revenues. A huge number of lower-income and middle-class people in this country don’t even pay taxes already.
Pro-Right to Kill Babies:
“18-year-olds dying in an unjust, created Iraq war is the same thing to me.” We can disagree on the war, but this is going too far. Our forces are all-volunteer. Our troops re-up at a very high rate. And last time I checked, it wasn’t Americans pulling triigers on Americans or setting IEDs. How you can compare this to legalizing the sticking of a fork in a defenseless baby’s head is beyond me. It is just sick.
Pro-Legislate from the Bench:
I think we both know this about abortion. The libs will do anything to see that it never gets to a ballot. Even Ruth Bader Ginsburg has stated that Roe poorly written and argued. It is why libs go insane every time a conservative gets to nominate a judge. Ballots + non-liberal courts = libs worst nightmare.
Pro-Cut and Run:
Please quote any Democrat that has said we should “Cut and Runâ€. A timeline or conditions? Big difference. What are your views on the “rapid deployment force” based in freaking Okinawa? Cut and run. Like abortion/baby-killing, you can name it waht you like (”Choice”), but it is what it is.
Pro-Slandering the Troops:
Slandering the troops to many conservatives is speaking out against the war. Encouraging them to fight in an unjust, unnecessary war is worse, and frankly, un-American. Kerry (again)? Murtha????
Hate Bush to the Point of Aiding Our Enemies:
Calling the president stupid and a liar helps whom?
No Answers:
I believe these meet the definition of answers. Really?
Have I missed anything?
Comment by emrenz
September 14th, 2006 at 1:24 pmCeausecu took a whole tomato and bit into it like an apple, splattering juice and seeds. Then he stuffed his mouth full of onion and feta cheese, mechanically wiping his fingers off on the white damask tablecloth, all the while studying Arafat with his shifting, badger-like eyes. “How are your influence operations going?”
“The advisors Hassan got from Brother Pacepa are true artists.”
Ceausescu picked up on the idea. “Influence is indeed an art, a skill.”
“At this very moment we´ve got something going in Vienna,” Hassan intervened, “and the results might be a peace prize from Kreisky.” Bruno Kreiski was the chancellor of Austria at the time. Arafat burst into a peal of laughter. “A gift from a Jew to the PLO. Wouldn´t that be marvelous?”
“We have another operation using Abu Nidal,” Hassan added.
“Who would ever suspect that Nidal, my fiercest enemy, the very fellow who is killing off my men, could actually be doing things for me?” Arafat boasted.
“Congratulations,” said Ceausescu, “How about pretending to break with terrorism? The West would love it.”
“Just pretending, like with your independence?”
“Exactly. But pretending over and over. Political influence, like dialectical materialism, is built on the same basic tenet that quantitative accumulation generates qualitative transformation.”
“I´m not the expert on Marxism that you are, Brother Ceausescu.”
“Dialectical materialism works like cocaine, let´s say. If you sniff it once or twice, it may not change your life. If you use it day after day, though, it will make you into an addict, a different man.” That´s the qualitative transformation.”
“A snort of a pacifist Arafat day after day…?”
“Exactly, Brother Yasser. The West may even become addicted to your PLO.”
September 14th, 2006 at 1:28 pmFranken the Vomit Bomb found out “What goes around comes around”…
Keep it up FrankenFool, maybe people will support you by buying your books to discover your inner skirt I mean.. mind. Weak and unfunny as it is.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:30 pmRecruiting terrorists, spetsnaz style
A spetsnaz officer out to recruit agents for direct terrorist action has a wonderful base for his work in the West. There are a tremendous number of people who are discontented and ready to protest against absolutely anything. And while millions protest peacefully, some individuals will resort to any means to make their protest. The spetsnaz officer has only to find the malcontent who is ready to go to extremes.
A man who protests against the presence of American troops in Europe and sprays slogans on walls is an interesting subject. If he not only paints slogans but is also prepared to fire at an American general, should he be given the submachine gun or an RPG-7 grenade launcher to do the job, he is an exceptionally interesting person. His goals tally perfectly with those of the senior officers of the GRU.
….The senior officers of the GRU have a particular dislike of Western nuclear power stations, which reduce the West’s dependence on imported oil (including Soviet oil) and make it stronger and more independent. They are one of spetsnaz’s most important targets.
…a group of animal rights activists in the UK injected bars of chocolate with poison. If spetsnaz were able to contact that group, and there is every chance it might, it would be extremely keen (without, of course, mentioning its name) to suggest to them a number of even more effective ways of protesting. Activists, radicals, peace campaigners, green party members: as far as the leaders of the GRU are concerned, these are like ripe watermelons, green on the outside, but red on the inside — and mouth-watering.
So there is a good base for recruiting. There are enough discontented people in the West who are ready not only to kill others but also to sacrifice their own lives for the sake of their own particular ideals which spetsnaz may exploit. The spetsnaz officer has only to find and take advantage of the malcontent who is ready to go to extremes.
VIKTOR SUVOROV, Spetsnaz
September 14th, 2006 at 1:39 pm.
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Look how afraid all these people from the right are.
Bin Laden owns them.
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September 14th, 2006 at 1:39 pm“I’m a liberal from a two-income household, we own our home in the suburbs of Phoenix. We have two kids and a dog, collect no welfare and murdered no one and don’t even own a gun.
And we both voted for Gore.”
Sounds like a nice life. Voting for a spittle-spewing loonie like Gore could change much of that rather quickly.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:42 pmI have to say after reading the comments above that the majority are just nasty adolescent name calling, probably from morbidly obese rightwing shut-ins whose entertainment is AM right wing talk radio.
As one girl in a poli sci class pointed out, you understand why so many of these rightists are hateful and mean when you take a look at them and realize that even a prostitute would turn them down.
Surgeon General’s 2006 Obesity report: 30% of red zip codes are morbidly obese.
Not even a pig will eat itself to death. Bush Voters are therefore proven dumber than pigs.
(which we already knew when the new owners of the IQ test released the results of 10 million web IQ tests which showed a 50 point disparity between red and blue state voters.)
Facts, folks. Not get back to your belching.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:42 pmMKA+Atlanta
I’m happy to pay taxes if it will help someone worse off than me or improve our way of life. Yes, even when I’m rich. I pay a higher percentage now compared to the rich and don’t complain. Do I believe much of our tax money is wasted? Absolutely. We do need to be efficient and wise in our expenditures.
It really seems to come down to abortion with you. Suppose there were 20 embryos and one infant in a room and the room catches fire-you can only save one, the embryos or the infant. Which are you going to save? Which lives are more viable? Every pro-lifer I ever asked answered “the infant.†They’re all alive aren’t they? The logical choice should be the 20 embryos, yet it never is. You do rate life.
Please quote Kerry and Murtha slandering troops directly. By the way, both more heroes than any of this administration’s war-mongering chicken-hawks could ever hope to be. They actually served their country. Poor examples. You mentioned it’s easy for me to suggest the other guy pay more taxes, well it’s easy to send the other people’s kids off to war isn’t it?) They’ve earned the right to speak. Furthermore, do you believe we should give up the civil right to free speech during wartime?
So admittedly, your guys came up with “cut and run†and no Democrat has said it.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:46 pmHundreds of people could be left without their favorite radio station if Air America goes away.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:46 pmThe comments here by GW Bush Republican sympathisers are priceless. As if just because Air America Radio goes bankrupt, then conversely their own morally, ethically and intellectually bankrupt pseudo-”conservative” worldview is vindicated and will surely further rule the day. Dream on, Bush symp’s. The GW Bush Era/Error is a disaster and when the consequences of it become more fully felt, GW Bush “conservatism” (sic) will be thoroughly discredited. GW Bush Republicans don’t have the intelligence or competence to run an elevator, much less a great nation-state of 300 million people. The days of GW Bush Republian fake “conservatism” are numbered. (Go James Webb, beat Macaca Allen!)
September 14th, 2006 at 1:50 pm.
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Do you fear Islam?
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If yes,
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Bin Laden owns you.
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September 14th, 2006 at 1:51 pm.
Post # 458
Fat People Can Lose Weight…
Skinny, Dumb, Blind, & Anti American iIs No Way To Live….
Welcome To The World Of The Left, They Are Smart , We Are Not…
September 14th, 2006 at 1:56 pmSheesh, you guys. When even SugarDaddy Soros gives up on ya, you *know* you’re worthless.
Buh. Bye.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:57 pmMKA+Atlanta
It was fun blogging with you, but I’ve got a doctor’s appointment so I’m going to have to cut and run.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:58 pmHello To Post # 462
We Pay Attention To People Trying To Kill Us In The Name Of Islam>>
This Is Why The LIBS LOSE Hello…..
September 14th, 2006 at 2:08 pmThis Is Fun
I think The Libs are cut and running from their our group think site>>>
PRICELESS
September 14th, 2006 at 2:11 pmI’m happy to pay taxes if it will help someone worse off than me or improve our way of life. Yes, even when I’m rich. I pay a higher percentage now compared to the rich and don’t complain. Do I believe much of our tax money is wasted? Absolutely. We do need to be efficient and wise in our expenditures. [What could be more foolish than expecting efficent and wise expenditures from government. It is an oxymoron.]
It really seems to come down to abortion with you. Suppose there were 20 embryos and one infant in a room and the room catches fire-you can only save one, the embryos or the infant. Which are you going to save? Which lives are more viable? Every pro-lifer I ever asked answered “the infant.†They’re all alive aren’t they? The logical choice should be the 20 embryos, yet it never is. You do rate life.” [No. It is not just abortion with me. In fact, I think is far more a hot button with the libs. I do find it morally reprehensible, however. Your example has nothing to with abortion. Your choice is who lives and who dies because someone must - it is unavoidable. Nobody HAS to die by abortion. It is an action. A choice. Nobody is "saved". A baby is picked to die or is not.]
Please quote Kerry and Murtha slandering troops directly. By the way, both more heroes than any of this administration’s war-mongering chicken-hawks could ever hope to be. [Most of Kerry's fellow vets who had anything to do with him, including his commanders, apparently disagree] They actually served their country. [Kerry served and then disgraced himself utterly.] Poor examples. You mentioned it’s easy for me to suggest the other guy pay more taxes, well it’s easy to send the other people’s kids off to war isn’t it?) [Actually, no. It's not] They’ve earned the right to speak. Furthermore, do you believe we should give up the civil right to free speech during wartime? [Abandon free speech? No. Use common sense and control partisan diarrhea of the mouth, yes.]
Kerry: And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the–of–the historical customs, religious customs.
REP. JOHN “JACK†MURTHA: Well, I’ll tell you exactly what happened. One Marine was killed and the Marines just said we’re going to take care – we don’t know who the enemy is, the pressure was too much on them, so they went into houses and they actually killed civilians.
So admittedly, your guys came up with “cut and run†and no Democrat has said it. The description? Yes. The idea? All yours.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:12 pm“It was fun blogging with you, but I’ve got a doctor’s appointment so I’m going to have to cut and run.”
LOL. Ditto.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:14 pmGolitsyn wrote a book in 1984 titled New Lies for Old. In that book he predicted the collapse of the communist bloc. He said this collapse would be deceptive and it would be orchestrated from above. There can be no doubt on this point: the long-range strategy of the communist bloc is real, and not a paranoid fiction. We know about it from defectors like the Czech general, Jan Sejna. It wasn’t only Golitsyn who warned the West. We have heard similar statements, as well, from Vladimir Rezun and Col. Stanislav Lunev.
The communist bloc strategy is predicated on the development of deceptive changes (perestroika) in communist bloc countries. These changes began in the late 1980s, as foretold by Golitsyn in his 1984 book. And these changes were, as he predicted, directed from the Kremlin according to a well-worked out plan. Without an understanding of Soviet clandestine methods — methods that were developed over a period of seventy years — it is impossible to understand the grand sweep of Russian and Chinese moves today.
This kind of strategy is alien to Western thinknig. In essence, despite the changes that occurred in 1989-91, the old communist bloc still exists. Only the label has been removed, and the iron hand now fits inside a velvet glove. These communist countries are weak countries, predicated on terror, oppression and war. They can only hope to succeed against America and the West by deceptive means, by the pretense of peace and democratic reform.
In reality, they are building their military power in secret, working with criminal groups and terror groups through intermediaries. They seek to economically cripple the United States, diplomatically isolate America and destroy the foundations of American military power. All of this is made possible by a broad-based, long range deception strategy.
If they achieve their objectives the world will belong to the communists who continue to consolidate their grip in Africa, South America, Europe and Asia.
Golitysn’s predictive methodology successfully anticipated the changes in Eastern Europe; he foretold the advent of the Russia-China alliance and the present campaign against “American imperialism.” We can ill-afford to ignore this methodology when it has successfully anticipated so many crucial developments. Even if Golitsyn has made mistakes, his basic approach is an invaluable tool for understanding the grand strategy of Russia and China, and whoever ignores Golitsyn’s warnings is making a potentially grave error.
J.R. Nyquist
September 14th, 2006 at 2:23 pmOh, real nice there gregrocker. Complain about the adolescent name-calling just before you launch into a rambling, drug-induced diatribe full of adolescent name-calling. Your hypocricy and lack of consistency makes you a perfect shill for the retro-liberal cause. The liberal mantra of “Do as I say, not as I do. I will judge you but you better not judge me. I will challenge your ideas but you better not challenge mine.” Any of this sound familiar?
September 14th, 2006 at 2:24 pmDo I fear Islam?
Yes. Only a fool wouldn’t.
The Quran is replete with calls to violence to advance the spread of the faith. I suggest you look up the terms “dhimmitude” and “Dar al-Harb”. I suggest you do a little research on just how Islam has spread around the world (quick: before the evil Crusaders came, Jerusalem was held by the Muslims, right? Guess how the Muslims got ahold of it?). Care to compare how women are treated in the Muslim world compared to the West? Politicial freedom? Ever ask yourself why it isn’t 17-40 year old Christians who hijack planes and blow themselves up on a fairy regular basis and claim it for the glory of God?
September 14th, 2006 at 2:25 pmQuote
“Hello To Post # 462
We Pay Attention To People Trying To Kill Us In The Name Of Islam>>
This Is Why The LIBS LOSE Hello….. ”
Let them kill us.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:26 pm…zero other credentials. Law degree? Government experience?
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 14, 2006 @ 12:48 pm
describes limpball, all right…
AirAmericaRadio, MediaMatters, and many others point out his LIES on a daily basis…
September 14th, 2006 at 2:27 pmthat sad waste of skin has done as much, if not more, harm to this country as bushco itself… and his cult here seems to be proud ot that…
…
I see the wignuts have something to cheer about.
They are usually cheering on the cheerleader in the failed neocon plan in the Middle East.
Try cheering on what is best for your country and stop being so scared of the big, bad Muslims.
Cheer for accountability for the failures.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:31 pmChris,
How about you just let them kill YOU? At least it would clean up the gene pool a bit.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:31 pmkaty,
September 14th, 2006 at 2:33 pmAir America and MediaMatters couldn’t find their asses if you gave them a map, compass and detailed directions.
To 472.
Let them hate us, let them kill us.
As you, they are my brothers.
I can love you and them.
No need to fear life or death.
You are eternal, as they.
Eventually you will love them and know that you and they are God.
..for now, enjoy your fear and hate for all it is worth. They are tools to learn by.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:39 pmWhat’s up with all the hateful responses? Air America Radio provides a viable alterantive to all the right-wing talk out there. I don’t understand why the right would want us all to have the same views on everything. Isn’t that what makes this country great? If we all got in line with the right wing, would we still be a democracy? From all the celebrating the right seems to be doing over AAR’s financial troubles, it appears they are just desperate. Why don’t you jerks just go back to listening to Druggy Limbaugh and take your ignorant hateful talking points with you?
September 14th, 2006 at 2:41 pmI’ll bet the folks who died in the Wolrd Trade Center attacks, the USS Cole, the marine barracks in Beirut, the Achille Lauro, Pan Am Flight 103, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the Khobar Towers etc etc etc would have wished we were a little more afraid of the big, bad Muslims. I’d bet there are lots of non-Americans like the hundreds of school children slaughtered in Russia, the train-bombing victims in Madrid and the hundreds dead in the bombings in Bali (amongst countless other examples) who would have wished the same.
So there are two guys called Joe Wilson who are complete fools….
September 14th, 2006 at 2:50 pm[...] The Think Progress post is here. [...]
September 14th, 2006 at 2:51 pm“Let them hate us, let them kill us.
As you, they are my brothers.
I can love you and them.
No need to fear life or death.
You are eternal, as they.
Eventually you will love them and know that you and they are God.
..for now, enjoy your fear and hate for all it is worth. They are tools to learn by.”
When does the flying saucer come to pick you up?
September 14th, 2006 at 2:53 pmWhat’s up with all the hateful responses?…
Comment by Jim Clay — September 14, 2006 @ 2:41 pm
F E A R and I G N O R A N C E…
September 14th, 2006 at 2:55 pm.
Air America is dead because there are not enough listeners in the entire US to warrant sponsor support. It’s demise is the result of good old American freedom of choice.
Translated, this means that Air America’s political, ethical and moral agenda is not supported by the majority of American listeners who would rather listen to something closer to their reality. Hallucinations are fun for the LSD crowd, but altered perceptions unanchored because of moral relativism are considered lunacy by fair-minded citizens.
RIP Air America – Most Americans Never Knew You
September 14th, 2006 at 2:57 pmsmile!
September 14th, 2006 at 3:01 pmAudience (in millions):
1. Rush Limbaugh–13.75+
2. Sean Hannity–12.50+
3. Michael Savage–8.00+
4. Dr. Laura Schlesinger–7.75+
4. Howard Stern–7.75+
5. Laura Ingraham–5.00+
6. Neil Boortz–3.75+
6. Mike Gallagher–3.75+
7. Jim Bohannon–3.25+
7. Clark Howard–3.25+
7. Bill O’Reilly–3.25+
7. Doug Stephan–3.25+
8. Glenn Beck–2.75+
8. Dr. Joy Browne–2.75+
9. Jerry Doyle–2.25+
9. Kim Komando–2.25+
9. Michael Medved–2.25+
9. Dave Ramsey–2.25+
10. Bill Bennett–2.00+
10. Jim Rome–2.00+
11. Bob Brinker–1.75+
11. ED SCHULTZ–1.75+
12. Tom Leykis–1.50+
12. G. Gordon Liddy–1.50+
13. Jim Cramer–1.25+
13. AL FRANKEN–1.25+
13. Tony Snow–1.25+
14. Alan Colmes–1.00+
14. Dr. Dean Edell–1.00+
14. Phil Hendrie–1.00+
14. Rusty Humphries–1.00+
14. STEPHANIE MILLER–1.00+
I’d be willing to bet that Frankenfailure’s audiences are pretty concentrated in a very few markets…..
September 14th, 2006 at 3:08 pmWhen Charlie Sheen went public about the 911 cover-up, Air America Radio stood down (just like Norad) and didn’t even mention a thing about it–that was the limus test.
AAR are just left gatekeepers. Talkshow hosts like Franken and Shultz are keeping the real issues off their shows.
When AAR fired Mike Malloy, they lost the last reason for anyone to bother listening. Mike was the only one with enough guts to tackle the 911 cover-up. Having Webster Tarpley on his show for a two hour interview was probably the last straw for the AAR censors.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:09 pmPost 479
We Like The Free Market System
Not Loans From Boys & Girls Clubs,
That, Then Go Unpaid… Does That Sound HateFull??
Maybe your hero George OpenSorors help you… not
Good News For America, Bad News for the LIBS… How True , How Sad>
September 14th, 2006 at 3:09 pmGod Bless America !! Land of The Free- Home of The Brave !!
Chris –
I’m smiling right now. I’d be astounded if you really bought your own “let them kill us” argument. To apply that argument consistently you would also have to tell those we attack to just smile and let us kill them too. Yet, somehow I think you’d be against that. Am I wrong?
September 14th, 2006 at 3:12 pmEvery soldier in Iraq passes around the “Chicken Hawk List” first posted on the washingtonpost.com website. It completely contradicts what most of us believed about the GOP supporting the troops. Just about every single GOP supporter of the Iraq War – from Congress to cable tv to talk radio to the actual frickin Pentagon! – either never served in the military or actively dodged the draft during Vietnam. Meanwhile, almost every Democrat who oppposed the war had either served honorably or was a War Hero! Think Bush/Cheney/Limbaugh vs. Kerry/Gore/Daschle/Gephardt…
So you could say that soldiers are starting to get the picture. I come home and find that some 90 Iraq vets running for office this year and every one is a Democrat. Reagan’s own Secretary of Navy has defected to run for Senate as a Dem from my home state Virginia.
I hear from the intake shrink at the local VA that a third of soldiers are coming back with some level of PTSD due to the frequent “shell shock.” I also hear that everyone is waiting to see the new web project from the guy who made a fortune selling “Maps to the Hollywood Movie Stars homes” – a website which is zip code searchable for “Maps to the NeoCon Chickenhawks Homes.” We’re gonna make sure every PTSD soldier is hooked up to that website soon. Let’s see if we can avoid another another Vietnam.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:18 pmWhen Charlie Sheen went public about the 911 cover-up, Air America Radio stood down (just like Norad) and didn’t even mention a thing about it–that was the limus test.
AAR are just left gatekeepers. Talkshow hosts like Franken and Shultz are keeping the real issues off their shows.
When AAR fired Mike Malloy, they lost the last reason for anyone to bother listening. Mike was the only one with enough guts to tackle the 911 cover-up. Having Webster Tarpley on his show for a two hour interview was probably the last straw for the AAR censors.
Comment by Protean
Charlie Freaking Sheen??? The cover up????
Tell us, who’s got your vote for the top political analyst in America? Madonna? Sean Penn? Alec Baldwin? Barbara Streisand? Or another one of those Hollywood uber-intellects? Oh, lest I forget “the Dixie Chicks”????
LMAO!!!!!!!!! You libs are too much!!!!
September 14th, 2006 at 3:21 pmMKA+Atlanta – #486:
The top prog host I can see on that list is Ed Schultz tied at 11 (which would actually be 21 if the ties were counted normally). That puts all the prog hosts below at least two financial advisors, two pop shrinks, and two sports commentators. Progressive radio is STRONG, man!
September 14th, 2006 at 3:28 pmIf the liberal media would drop their “hate America first” program, spend more time on positive accomplishments and less on bending over backwards to undermine our efforts, mayeb we will avoid another Vietnam. Former North Vietnamese Colonel Bui Tin has talked about the damage our press and anti-war movements can do to our efforts (as happened in Vietnam).
Do any of you libs know that militarily, Tet was a complete disaster for the Communists? Walter Cronkite made it a victory for them…
September 14th, 2006 at 3:28 pmHow about Fox News’ hurricane experts… Richard Simmons & Don King (murderer)… the Govenator in California… the right is just a gulity in using halfwits, Hollywood & losers as experts in their time of need.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:34 pmso you dumb liberals cant run a radio station and yet you want to run our country???? good job (hint my sarcasm), you are all a joke and I am glad that you can stop polluting our nation with your pointless and useless complaints all because you dont have what you want.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:36 pmI know it’s hard to comprehend that America isn’t ready to listen to renowned forensic scientist Charlie Sheen about the 911 cover up or famed international arms inspector Sean Penn about the lack of WMD in Iraq or even that unbiased world liaison and senior CIA intelligence analyst, Barbara Streisand about the administration’s manipulation of pre-war intelligence, but for Pete’s sake, do we have to hate the Dixie Chicks?!?! They are hot!
Jim Quinn has a name for these folks; it is ‘Moon-bat’. It fits!
September 14th, 2006 at 3:40 pmThe top prog host I can see on that list is Ed Schultz tied at 11 (which would actually be 21 if the ties were counted normally). That puts all the prog hosts below at least two financial advisors, two pop shrinks, and two sports commentators. Progressive radio is STRONG, man!
Comment by Seth II
Pathetic. Newspaper circulation is going nowhere and generally declining, CNN and MSNBC are getting spanked in the cable ratings on a regular basis, the major network news programs are on an inexorable decline, the lib’s attempts at book writing usually end up on the $1 (but we’ll take $0.50) table within a week…. Oh, and lest we forget this abortive attempt at a “progressive” radio network which is forced to bilk children’s clubs out of funding in order to stay afloat (but not for long ;) )…
There is a God.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:43 pmThe right wing is sure to seize on Air America’s financial woes as a sign that progressive talk radio is unpopular. In fact, Air America succeeded at creating something that didn’t exist: the progressive talk radio format. That format is now established and strong and will continue with or without Air America.
Nice spin. Do you know how silly this sounds? It reminds me in 1984 when the government proclaims chocolate production is at an all time at the same moment it’s cutting his chocolate ration.
Air America failure is not good for progressives, liberals (whatever) no matter how you slice it. Instead of trying to spin it as a victory, you may want to try a little self reflection as to why it didnt work. The “format” (whatever that means) was clearly rejected by the public which is not listening in any sizeable numbers. Having listened to the station, my opinion is that the radio personalities lectured too long and did not take many callers. The whole attractiveness of talk radio is that it is audience interactive. Of course, progressives dont really care about such interaction with the “common” man. The purpose of the listener is to sit there and be educated. Also, the message progressives send is that the U.S. is the cause of all the world’s problems, capitalism is too flawed, etc. That message has been clearly rejected.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:44 pmQuote
“Chris –
I’m smiling right now. I’d be astounded if you really bought your own “let them kill us†argument. To apply that argument consistently you would also have to tell those we attack to just smile and let us kill them too. Yet, somehow I think you’d be against that. Am I wrong? ”
We don’t need to attack anyone.
If you want to influence what you may see as injustice, study how Gandhi took India back from the British.
You may not like him, yet the results hold a remarkable place in human history.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:47 pmIf you want to influence what you may see as injustice, study how Gandhi took India back from the British.
Dimwit: You see no difference between people who think they will go to heaven and have a non-stop, eternal stripper party for killing themselves and any non-Muslim (man, woman, child) they can, and the British Empire? Islam didn’t take over India becasue it was stopped militarily. Had Ghandi tried to turn the other cheek to a Muslim fanatic, he’d have been dead and Allah would have been thrilled.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:53 pmRadio is the wrong avenue to reach “progressives”. Most rely on endless hours of TV for what little information and half truths they need to form baseless opinions.
Most talk radio is conservative because that is how they reach working people.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:00 pmAnne coulter for president!!!
September 14th, 2006 at 4:01 pmChris – #499 said:
I like him plenty. He was intelligent and compassionate and I doubt I’ll live long enough to see anyone like him arise. The advantage he had was that the citizenry among his adversaries respected him and didn’t want him hurt or killed. He did not fear being killed, but had he been assassinated twenty years earlier than he was, the independence movement very likely could have turned out differently…and worse.
We do not have Ghandi’s advantage of a sympathetic adversarial citizenry. Our adversaries and their supporters want a lot of Americans killed, and take the opportunities to fulfill that desire. The comparison is not adequate.
Ghandi and his supporters risked only their own lives. You’re asking us to risk everybody’s.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:03 pmI used to be a Democrat but changed my party affiliation to Independent recently. Air America and the Pelosi, Moore, Sheehan crowd pushed me over the edge. The Dems have become too shrill, and AAmerica was an outcome of that shrillness. Who wants to hear how horrible we Americans are all the time? So many lunatic rantings, especially from Randi Rhodes. A total turnoff literally. If Air America goes off the air for good, it can only be a positive thing. Maybe people like me might actually start listening to the so called Progressive message again.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:07 pmMKA+Atlanta
No need for name calling.
I think Osama has approval to kill around 11 million of us using nuclear means. This will probably be done. There is probably nothing at this point that can or will stop this.
We can occupy where we do not belong, we can kill all we want. And, we can reap the response to this. We can escalate to the destruction of man. Or, we can rise above this.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:09 pm“You see no difference between people who think they will go to heaven and have a non-stop, eternal stripper party for killing themselves and any non-Muslim (man, woman, child) they can, and the British Empire?”
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 14, 2006 @ 3:53 pm
>>>>>The Bush administration and most republicans are no different than the Islamic fanatics.
“Islam didn’t take over India becasue it was stopped militarily. Had Ghandi tried to turn the other cheek to a Muslim fanatic, he’d have been dead and Allah would have been thrilled.”
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 14, 2006 @ 3:53 pm
>>>>>Christians took over the world because no one stopped them on their crusade of “convert or die.”
September 14th, 2006 at 4:10 pmNice to see a fellow quinn and rose listener on here.Thank GOD for conservative talk radio.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:10 pmThank you all!! I now realiz ethat it is neither a right or left wing conspiracy, but is Zionist lead, Jewish media-controlled manipulation of the USA to fight their battles. Thanks, I feel better now. (NO SARCASM AT ALL, REALLY) Time to let Israel (not the Jews) die. That will solve all our problems.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:12 pmHate America First
Moral Relativism
Airhead America can’t die fast enough.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:12 pmSeth II
I am not asking us to risk anything. Simply accept when it is our time to die.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:16 pmReaders, believers, whatever…I ask you to consider the following:
This seems, to me, an honest (though misguided) post gone awry and nothing more than a trollapalooza to cast AAR in a bad light and liberal talk in gerneral, as a floundering fringe element when it is so clearly, even statistically, the opposite. Even Clear Channel, a huge Republican party contributor, which began formatting liberal talk only a year after AAR debuted, is syndicating and reformatting all over the country to include liberal talk.
The ONLY source on this bankruptcy, to which everyone out there flapping their gums is referring, is this blog entry. If this is an honest blog post, to give the author the benefit of the doubt, it is a poor decision on Think Progress’ part to readers who have come to trust it its reporting as an advancement of progressive causes. Not that it should refrain from reporting and commenting on an actual AAR bankruptcy, but it shoudl definitely wait until the facts are in. I find it a very poor judgement call and it obviously bit the author in the ass considering the server overload, not with progressive discussion, but with conservative troll vomit.
This entry is on its face, unconfirmed, furthermore AAR has gone on record to deny the rumor as have its radio hosts many of whom are often vocally opposed to some of the management decisions AAR has made in the past often even ridiculing the corporate management. I, personally, enjoy a little healthy dissent and would often laugh at the hosts laughing at themselves and the whole rocky ride of getting AAR off the ground and keeping it going. It is honest radio and everyone who loves AAR knows it.
Isn’t it a bit odd (or maybe not) that so many conservative trolls have gathered here so prematurely for their spasmodic victory ball? I don’t think in my entire blog reading history have I come across such a concentration of tolls gathering outside of the sanctity of their recidivist caves and echo chamber communes. This is a testament to the power liberal talk radio has over these goosesteppers.
Lastly, in searching out the WWW for extra info on this supposed bankruptcy I found this nugget:
Air America Faces a Cash Crunch, Its Star Host Says
In an exclusive interview with the (Lol) New York Sun, Franken reveals that he has not been paid and that the network is undergoing financial troubles. This sealed it for me. Why the hell would Al Franken reveal this info exclusively to a notoriously conservative rag like the Sun and then proceed to deny the rumors on his own show? I find this dubious, at best.
The only people crowing about this are right wing idiots like Michelle Malking and Bill O’Reilly while surprisingly even some Progressives were taken aback and reporting this on their own blogs, undoubtedly because it was posted here. Let this be a lesson Think Progress, think before you speak. I dno’t see this on any other reputable outlet except yours.
Face it people, you’ve been had. Trolls, you’ve never looked stupider and more uninformed. Crawl back under the bridge and talk amongst yourselves, liberal talk radio is never going away and, best of all, its all your fault! :) Thanks!
Air America broadsided conservative talk in this country by having the balls to launch a liberal radio NETWORK verusus going at it one syndication at a time. This is a ridiculously ambitious strategy that worked whether the station files for bankruptcy or not! Liberal talk is now being syndicated ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. Air America is no longer the barometer for the success of liberal talk. For years republikons have cried wolf about the “liberal media”. Now they got what they wished for. The wolf, thanks to them is now a hardcore reality. Jon Stewart’s Daily Show, Colbert, Franken, Thom Hartmann, Sam Seder, Janeane Garofalo, Mike Malloy, Randy Rhodes, Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher, Stephanie Miller, Jerry Springer, Media Matters, The Center for American Progress, Arianna Huffington, Daily Kos are huge, HUGE! Furthermore, they expose the country to thousands of other progressives and truthseekers: professors, writers, journalists, bloggers, celebrities that provide information to counter right wing misinformation.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:21 pm#509 – “Hate America First” – Yeah, you’ve proven that Republicans hate the US Constitution, so why shoudn’t they hate America as well?
“Moral Relativism” – It’s only breakin the law when Democrats do it, not when Republicans do it. Yup! You Republicans have got that one sown up as well!
“Airhead America can’t die fast enough.” – It’s not dying. Get over it. Move on. Read the real news, not just your make-believe news!
September 14th, 2006 at 4:23 pmFrom Scrappleface and breaking news that should make AirAmerica:
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-MA, today harshly criticized al Qaeda deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri for using this week’s commemoration of the 5th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks to release a video aimed at garnering support for the increasingly-unpopular war in Iraq.
The Massachusetts senator rejected Mr. Zawahiri’s attempt to link Iraq with the global terrorism battle and called the speech video, aired on CNN, “cynically political.”
“The notion,” he said, ” that there is somehow some connection between what happens in Baghdad and Boston, or even in Beirut is nothing but rhetoric meant to keep people afraid so that Zawahiri and bin Laden can maintain their grip on power.
Sen. Kennedy also faulted Mr. Zawahiri for “violating the wall between church and state” by including the name of Allah in his pronoucements, and leaving the impression that “anyone who doesn’t believe like us is wrong.”
“The intolerance and arrogance of the man make me embarrassed to call myself an Earthling,” Mr. Kennedy said. “Zawahiri is almost as bad as President Bush.”
September 14th, 2006 at 4:28 pmThis is proof that the free market system is one of the most efficient concepts a capitalist society can produce. The fact is, there is not profit to be made catering to people with hate-filled ideas like Randi Rhodes and Al Franken. This only goes to prove that a majority of people of don’t want to listen to Fanken’s spin and Rhodes’ lies. Thank god for people like Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh. Jeb Bush in 2008!
September 14th, 2006 at 4:34 pmChris –
Were our impending deaths a predetermined act of God, I would probably come to accept it. The deaths you are proposing, however, are decided acts of man. To me, the moral option is not to let them happen, but to try to prevent them.
I don’t believe that 11 million deaths are inevitable, nor that the killing will stop after that should we let it happen. I also don’t believe that we will have to kill 11 million others to prevent the deaths of 11 million of our own. With those premises in mind, I cannot fathom accepting 11+ million deaths as being more moral than doing what can be done to prevent them.
From both a spiritual and sheer numbers perspective, I come to the same moral conclusion. I’m having a lot of trouble following your line of reasoning.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:34 pmNat:
1) Where do you get that trash? Bush and Republicans like the Muslim fanatics? What is wrong with you? I’d ask you to back up that mental bovine excretia, but you’d just follow it up with even more.
2) Christianity spread primarily through missionaries. Peacefully. It was a repressed faith with no army that could get its followers killed for a good three centuries at least. Learn your history. Islam, on the other hand, was established by the sword. Mohammed himself fought in nearly 30 conflicts. Muslims conquered predominantly Christian lands for decades in the Middle East. They conquered Spain, invaded France and laid siege to Vienna. Much of this happened long before the “evil Cusaders” we are supposed to feel guilty about ever set foot in the Holy Land to recover what Muslims had taken and to defend Christianity from further Muslim expansion. Get edjumakated.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:36 pmPost # 511
Liiberal Thinking >>> A Loss Is a Win, # 1 Liberal Radio Network Dies
September 14th, 2006 at 4:43 pmAnd This Is Good For The Movement…. WOW Moon Bats Up, Up & AWAY….
#509 – “Hate America First†– Yeah, you’ve proven that Republicans hate the US Constitution, so why shoudn’t they hate America as well? Proof? This is a baseless rant. What freedoms have been subverted?
“Moral Relativism†– It’s only breakin the law when Democrats do it, not when Republicans do it. Yup! You Republicans have got that one sown up as well! Yawn. Here’s rock solid evidence.
“Airhead America can’t die fast enough.†– It’s not dying. Get over it. Move on. Read the real news, not just your make-believe news! It’s not? has it found another Boy’s or Girl’s Club to defraud? You guys are good.
Comment by Democrat Soldier — September 14, 2006 @ 4:23 pm
September 14th, 2006 at 4:44 pmThis is great news! There is no market for liberalism. When faced with market forces, Liberalism fails. The only people who can get an audience and ad revenue, are arch conservatives!!!!
September 14th, 2006 at 4:44 pmMKA+Atlanta,
Bravo!
Chris,
September 14th, 2006 at 4:50 pmYou’re mad, you are!
“1) Where do you get that trash? Bush and Republicans like the Muslim fanatics? What is wrong with you? I’d ask you to back up that mental bovine excretia, but you’d just follow it up with even more.”
>>>>Our Christian president just blew the s**t out of a Muslim country killing 100,000 Iraqis and you support it.
“2) Christianity spread primarily through missionaries. Peacefully. It was a repressed faith with no army that could get its followers killed for a good three centuries at least. Learn your history. Islam, on the other hand, was established by the sword. Mohammed himself fought in nearly 30 conflicts. Muslims conquered predominantly Christian lands for decades in the Middle East. They conquered Spain, invaded France and laid siege to Vienna. Much of this happened long before the “evil Cusaders†we are supposed to feel guilty about ever set foot in the Holy Land to recover what Muslims had taken and to defend Christianity from further Muslim expansion. Get edjumakated.
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 14, 2006 @ 4:36 pm”
>>>>Muslims killed people and took the land and centuries later Christians killed Muslims in an attempt to take it back attempt to take it back and claim they are more moral. They were no different than the Muslims.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:52 pmI commend the poster who evaluted past presidents back to jfk, and basically agree. Good thoughts!
I’ve also read posts that evaluate, negatively, both Al and Randy. They are correct. Both hosts are a drag on AA, and the basic reason why it is in monetary trouble. I try to listen to both sides, but I must say as an independent, it is very difficult to listen to Franken who puts me to sleep, and then to Rhodes who appears to have severe mental problems. Radio is a business, and needs professionals, not bad comics, and the mentally challanged.
As an independent, one would think the hatred would come from the Right, but I just hear so much hate on AA, it turns me off, and I can only imagine it turns off many others as well. Miller’s show is funny and entertaining, but perhaps too much laughter when serious topics are dealt with.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:53 pmLastly, I would love to listen to a network that had both sides on each segment/show.
Hard work and providing something that others wish to buy and consume. What radical concepts.
As opposed to “let the other guy work hard and we’ll tax his money away to pay for what we want”. Unfortunatley, with the forces of Good cuurently in power, the libs are reduced to crying “Oh, Mr. Soros! Write us a check. And then write our unviable abortion of a radio network another check to keep us afloat! And another…..”.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:53 pmAll you AirAmericans better brace yourselves. You know that Santi Clause will be riding soon and in the tradition of Christmas, its time for good Christians to start blowing up those denominations that don’t agree with them.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:00 pmSeth,
Our military set up in Saudi Arabia. This was offensive to some. Just or unjust, they sent their message to us by killing 3,000 people in our country. We returned the favor by killing something on the order of 100,000 people who had nothing to do with either event or other related occurrences.
Like it or not there will be repercussions for this. It is just how nature works. Whether one sees it as the hand of God or man is irrelevant. It is all the same to me. It is just how nature works,
I do not need to hate or kill anyone involved. Just let nature play it’s self out, and do nothing to escalate hatred. There are those on both sides who feel differently. I accept this.
Even tactful surgical responses to capture those at the top will not change events any more than taking out a few neocons in our country will stop out greed, hatred and immature desire to conquer and control.
If man survives it will be because we have learned to see our brothers as ourselves, as God and treat each one with the ultimate dignity that God/man deserves.
It is all a mater of enhancing or striping human dignity.
I hope we learn.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:04 pmWow. All this noise and hatred over something that isn’t even happening.
Fact check for everyone on this thread: Air America has refuted this story and has insisted it is not poised to declare bankruptcy. I’m sure everyone here who was gloating over the lack of viability in alternative radio media must be greatly dissapointed.
This leads to me to wonder if this might not be an excelent strategy for distracting neocon blowhards. Periodically post ‘news’ on a liberal blog of the fabricated imminent demise of in an effort to distract them from the task of holding on to what little public support they still have.
The GOP had it’s chance to prove to this Country they were better than the ‘crats, they blew it, big time. There is no lie or distortion in the well accepted fact that the majority of the Country no longer supports the war and especially no longer supports the President. Both houses of congress enjoy abysmal approval ratings. All signs point to the strong possibility their will be a major shift in power. All this fear and hatred directed at a radio station seems to suggest their desperation is growing.
Me, I have nothing against true conservatives. I find it a very respectable philosophy. Unfortunately for them, they are the minority. Their party and their leaders have been subverted by neocons who do not share their beliefs in the slightest. One needs look no farther then Bush, who is quite possibly the MOST liberal spender in our history.
Hopefully after the Democrats retake the houses and probably the Presidency in ‘08, the real conservatives will stand up and kick the neocons out of their party. Then we can get back to some form of sanity for our great but distressed Country.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:05 pm“1) Where do you get that trash? Bush and Republicans like the Muslim fanatics? What is wrong with you? I’d ask you to back up that mental bovine excretia, but you’d just follow it up with even more.â€
>>>>Our Christian president just blew the s**t out of a Muslim country killing 100,000 Iraqis and you support it. No. The vast majority of killing over there is Muslims killing Muslims. In case you miseed the memo, our guys are the good guys and avoid trying to kill civilians.
“2) Christianity spread primarily through missionaries. Peacefully. It was a repressed faith with no army that could get its followers killed for a good three centuries at least. Learn your history. Islam, on the other hand, was established by the sword. Mohammed himself fought in nearly 30 conflicts. Muslims conquered predominantly Christian lands for decades in the Middle East. They conquered Spain, invaded France and laid siege to Vienna. Much of this happened long before the “evil Cusaders†we are supposed to feel guilty about ever set foot in the Holy Land to recover what Muslims had taken and to defend Christianity from further Muslim expansion. Get edjumakated.
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 14, 2006 @ 4:36 pmâ€
>>>>Muslims killed people and took the land and centuries later Christians killed Muslims in an attempt to take it back attempt to take it back and claim they are more moral. They were no different than the Muslims. No. Christians made few if any efforts to conquer Muslim lands at all. They took control of a relatively small area of the vast swaths of land taken from Christians by Muslim aggression (including Jerusalem). In most Muslim-Christian conflicts, the Christians were either on the defensive or trying to recover what had been taken. Your logic is typical morally relative liberal crap. It’s OK for the other guy to kill your family and steal your home, but heaven forbid you try to get it back, right? Regardless, it is intersting how both the likes of al-Jazeera and our liberal press will talk about the Crusades and conveniently forget centuries of Muslim conquest and atrocities that preceded them. Typical.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:06 pmComment by Nat
Air America has refuted what? The whole house of cards was FOUNDED on lies about it’s financial backing (or lack thereof LOL). I’m going to enjoy watching Air Trainwreck’s demise…
September 14th, 2006 at 5:10 pmGood bye to AIr America. I never heard one constructive word on that station. It was mostly crying about losing elections, poking fun at conservatives and how much they hate anyone who does not agree with them. What happened to the tolerant and understanding that Liberals used to talk about?? I think we saw thier true nature and it wasn’t pretty.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:15 pmThe greatest sign of success for the left is complete failure. Look at Jimmy “444 days of glory†Cater. I remember when the buck tooth moron himself was hailing the former USSR on SNL in the late 70’s as the inevitable winner of the cold war with that on his resume he gets to go head to head with Limbaugh on AAR. This is just another shining moment in leftist competence and a badge of honor for leftist everywhere.
Maybe now that the money has run out you people at ARR will be forced to sober up and start seeing the world as it is- not as your drug induced hallucinations appear to be.
AAR went bankrupt because it is in the business of talk radio. Talk radio is a business of ideas and that is an aera where the left has been bankrupt for 40 years +.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:15 pmBYE
September 14th, 2006 at 5:18 pmLiberals are all for helping the poor, the downtrodden, the helpless…. except for an unborn child of course. And as long as they can do it with your hard-earned money.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:20 pm#518 – “Proof? This is a baseless rant.”
Yeah, just as baseless as your “listener numbers”. Where did you get those? Let me guess, some right-whiner web site. REAL solid proof there.
“What freedoms have been subverted?”
If you need me to tell you that, then you’ve got more problems than just being a neo-con lemming. the US Constitution is supposed to apply, but Pres. Bush doesn’t like that, so guess what? Subverted freedoms.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:23 pmContinue to talk in circles sir. There is no declaration of bankruptcy. Do not be upset just because you found out you were duped into believing an event that will not be unfolding.
In the meantime Clear Channel is poised to ramp up its support for progressive radio. Damn, you know, it’s almost as if left wing radio isn’t going anywhere at all, and is actually gaining popularity and showing itself to be financially viable (hence Clear Channel support).
I’m terribly sorry to rain on your parade but I’d hate to see you hold on to all this false hope that your liberal boogieman is dead, when, in fact, it appears to be growing new heads.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:28 pm‘Fact check for everyone on this thread: Air America has refuted this story and has insisted it is not poised to declare bankruptcy’
Sub, much of this comes from Franken, and his statement(s) that he has not been paid, etc.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:31 pmBTW, I have not heard nor seen closure on the issue of the money taken from the ny charity to fund AA early on. Do you know if those funds were paid back? Do you know if that charity is now in existence?
Just wondering.
“No. The vast majority of killing over there is Muslims killing Muslims. In case you miseed the memo, our guys are the good guys and avoid trying to kill civilians.”
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 14, 2006 @ 5:06
>>>>>The president invaded and destroyed another country; he is responsible for every death that occurs.
“No. Christians made few if any efforts to conquer Muslim lands at all. They took control of a relatively small area of the vast swaths of land taken from Christians by Muslim aggression (including Jerusalem). In most Muslim-Christian conflicts, the Christians were either on the defensive or trying to recover what had been taken. Your logic is typical morally relative liberal crap. It’s OK for the other guy to kill your family and steal your home, but heaven forbid you try to get it back, right? Regardless, it is intersting how both the likes of al-Jazeera and our liberal press will talk about the Crusades and conveniently forget centuries of Muslim conquest and atrocities that preceded them. Typical.”
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 14, 2006 @ 5:06
>>>>>The Christians killed innocent Muslims, Pagans and dissident Christians during the crusades to take back land taken from them centuries ago. By your logic Islamic fanatics who want Israel destroyed or relocated are justified.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:32 pm#532 – So I guess that means that Cons are all about rights for unborn children until they’re born, then they don’t give a crap about the child anymore.
Born into a crack-home? Cons don’t care.
Born to an underage girl who can’t take care of the child? Cons don’t care.
Just so long as the child is born, the Con’s dont care about any other aspect of the birth at all.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:33 pm#518 – “Proof? This is a baseless rant.â€
Yeah, just as baseless as your “listener numbersâ€. Where did you get those? Let me guess, some right-whiner web site. REAL solid proof there. LMAO!!!! I guess those numbers are wrong??? I know! AL FRANKEN must be #1!! That’s why Airhead America is rolling in cash! Their bilking boy’s and girl’s clubs out of hundreds of thousands of dollars is just a hobby, right?? You’re killing me, man! Who writes your stuff? Al Franken himself?
“What freedoms have been subverted?â€
If you need me to tell you that, then you’ve got more problems than just being a neo-con lemming. the US Constitution is supposed to apply, but Pres. Bush doesn’t like that, so guess what? Subverted freedoms. Translation: “I can’t name a damned one.” Typical liberal substanceless ranting and bleating.
Comment by Democrat Soldier
September 14th, 2006 at 5:38 pm#534 – Actually, the Con’s have ALWAYS held onto false hope!
They thought that Pres. Bush was going to reign in spending, but he’s increased spending faster than a commie on crack!
They thought that Pres. Bush was going to return “honorism and dignitude” to the white house, and he’s screwed everything up in which he’s been involved.
I don’t care if the Con’s have have delusions of AAR going away. When they’re proven wrong, they still won’t say “Oh, I must’ve been wrong!” They’ll claim it was some fluke of nature or some other excuse for their still being wrong.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:45 pmMKA Atlanta STILL cannot prove the lsitener numbers he claims, and he has the temerity to say “Translation: “I can’t name a damned one.— about other people.
Wow, this is yet more proof that Con’s just cannot think for themselves nor find proof for their specious claims.
Time for me to go home, children. I’m too busy with my life. I’ll enjoy listening to AAR over the next few years. All you Con’s can stew in your hate, calumny and mendacity.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:49 pm“No. The vast majority of killing over there is Muslims killing Muslims. In case you miseed the memo, our guys are the good guys and avoid trying to kill civilians.â€
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 14, 2006 @ 5:06
>>>>>The president invaded and destroyed another country; he is responsible for every death that occurs. [Our COUNTRY invaded Iraq and is attempting to help establish a democracy. We are trying to REBUILD that nation. But CNN and CBS don't talk much about new schools, homes, power plants, hospitals... so I'm hardly surprised you don't know about that or that the bombings and wanton killing are overwhelmingly committed by "the other guy". Blame America First. I seem to recall a vote in which nearly every Democrat voted FOR the war, but we're supposed to forget that]
“No. Christians made few if any efforts to conquer Muslim lands at all. They took control of a relatively small area of the vast swaths of land taken from Christians by Muslim aggression (including Jerusalem). In most Muslim-Christian conflicts, the Christians were either on the defensive or trying to recover what had been taken. Your logic is typical morally relative liberal crap. It’s OK for the other guy to kill your family and steal your home, but heaven forbid you try to get it back, right? Regardless, it is intersting how both the likes of al-Jazeera and our liberal press will talk about the Crusades and conveniently forget centuries of Muslim conquest and atrocities that preceded them. Typical.â€
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 14, 2006 @ 5:06
>>>>>The Christians killed innocent Muslims, Pagans and dissident Christians during the crusades to take back land taken from them centuries ago. By your logic Islamic fanatics who want Israel destroyed or relocated are justified. [That did happen. It happened on both sides. The difference? Christians were acting AGAINST the teachings of their faith when this happened. Muslims FOLLOWED theirs (and CONTINUE to do so to this day). FYI, Jews made up a majority of the population of the areas of Palestine that became Israel. Interesting that these Muslim fanatics of Hamas don't seem too bothered at all the Palestinean land given to Jordan. And Hizbollah has NO territorial claims at all! Blame America.... Blame the Jews.... Right?]
September 14th, 2006 at 5:50 pmComment by Nat
“Translation: “I can’t name a damned one.†Typical liberal substanceless ranting and bleating.”
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 14, 2006 @ 5:38 pm
>>>>>The 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 14th, 24th amendments, Article 1- section 1 of the constitution, Article 2 – section 3 of the constitution, the Voting Rights Acts, the FISA Law, and the War Powers Act.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:52 pmI have great confidence that Air Anti-American is in the process of defrauding some old folks home or charity for the disabled in order to meet payroll. I assume the $875k from the boys and girl’s club has been used up?
September 14th, 2006 at 5:53 pmComment by KHawk — September 14, 2006 @ 4:28 pm
scrappleface? … SCRAPPLEFACE ??? !
September 14th, 2006 at 5:54 pmare you f-ing kidding us?
“News Fairly Unbalanced. We Report. You Decipher.”
yea, that’s some reliable source there… do you even know the definition of satire?…
now we all know how stoopid you are… i’m sorry…
Truemac,
Sorry, I have to refrain from commenting on that topic, as I am not informed one way or the other. Unlike many people in this thread, I at least make an effort to know what I’m talking about before I post.
I am curious to find out though so I will have to do some digging. First I’ve ever even heard of it is from all these rabid commenters, whom I am not about to take at face value.
If it turns out they are actualy being factual, I will be seriously upset with AA’s management. I detest hypocracy and defrauding cheritable organizations is the antithesis of true progressives.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:54 pm“Born into a crack-home? Cons don’t care.
Born to an underage girl who can’t take care of the child? Cons don’t care.
Just so long as the child is born, the Con’s dont care about any other aspect of the birth at all.”
Comment by Democrat Soldier — September 14, 2006 @ 5:33 pm
>>>>The children that are already here can died a slow excruciating death for all they care while a women impregnated by her rapist and a ten year who didn’t know what she was doing must get use it.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:57 pmThe 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 14th, 24th amendments, Article 1- section 1 of the constitution, Article 2 – section 3 of the constitution, the Voting Rights Acts, the FISA Law, and the War Powers Act.
Rants. All unproven or debatable. I believe one or two of the things you mention were actually done by Democratic presidents also (ex. FISA), but nobody complained then. Please feel free to elaborate on exactly how these violations have occurred and how they affect anyone….
September 14th, 2006 at 5:59 pm…If this is an honest blog post, to give the author the benefit of the doubt, it is a poor decision on Think Progress’ part to readers who have come to trust it its reporting as an advancement of progressive causes…
Comment by 60th Street — September 14, 2006 @ 4:21 pm
excellent commentary… and i feel vindicated (and not so lonely)…
September 14th, 2006 at 6:00 pmi said as much in my posts and directly to TP…
thanks… will be looking for more of your rational thoughts at this site…
…
I really didn’t appreciate some of the hypocrisy I heard at AAR. Listening to Maddow “interviewing” a shill for a Las Vegas time share and never mentioning that it was an ad, that’s pretty lame. So was calling a wreath laying at the WTC a “photo-op”. Her shrillness, along with Randy R’s particular form of vehemence made AAR very unentertaining, no wonder it went under. You can’t just hear the same old negative crap day after day without turning the dial. Same with Franken, very little real humor. As far as Springer was concerned, it seemed like he was talking to himself all the time, no listeners. Shultz was a former rightie who thought there was more money and less talent to have to compete with on the left side of the dial. It may be true, but he’s still a boring loser…
Malloy took the cake as far as vehement bashing, at least had a radio presence, something most of the other hosts didn’t. BAAD radio, commericals that sounded like they were psa’s for Narcotics Anonymous but were in reality ads for Narcanon, a front for Scientology, very dangerous, no warnings about who they were or where they were coming from, must have heard 20 or 30 per day, see http://www.crackpots.org/
“Former U.S. Surgeon General C. Everett Koop offers his description of Narconon’s quack medical claims, calling them “detrimental to your health”
Not that it stopped AAR from flooding Detroit with their ads, glad to see that it’s almost over, the signal in Detroit virtually disappeared at night.
RIP
September 14th, 2006 at 6:05 pmI listen to Air America as a conserivative. My reason for listening, is sheer entertainment, plus it reinforces my conserivative beliefs. If Air America were to go off the air today, it’s because of the extreme and radical garbage they put out, and since this represents such a small segment of our society, they cannot financally support these views.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:07 pmUnbelievable.
The numbers of raped women who get impregnated and 10-year old girls who get pregnant are miniscule compared to the numbers of abortions that occur in this country. What hysterics. Have any of you people ever looked into the process behind a partial-birth abortion? The murderer…errr…doctor leaves part of the baby’s body inside the mother while he suctions it’s brain out as the poor soul twitches. Do you know why a small part is left inside the mother? Do you? Because if the sick bastard moved the baby a few more inches out then it would legally be murder rather than just morally!
But an abortion is far less traumatic then going to term and giving the child up for adoption, right? Better just to kill the kid off.
Sick. You people fight this right. You’d rather see a tree or a caribou live than an unborn child. You are morally bankrupt and will go the way of the dodo.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:08 pm‘They thought that Pres. Bush was going to reign in spending, but he’s increased spending faster than a commie on crack!’ DS
This independent agrees with you, at least on this. However, in fairness, I believe the ‘crats would have spent more given the opportunity. Just check out Reid’s addendum for the security bill.
‘I don’t care if the Con’s have have delusions of AAR going away. When they’re proven wrong, they still won’t say “Oh, I must’ve been wrong!†They’ll claim it was some fluke of nature or some other excuse for their still being wrong.’ DS
I have no real knowledge whether or not AA is going bankrupt, but I believe it is clear that it is not in good financial shape. Limbo and Hannity have been working radio for decades, as independent talk show hosts. Over these same decades, there have been numerous liberal radio personalities trying to match their success, but for whatever reason, that did not happen.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:08 pmAA was created, not as a business entity, but basically as a ‘paid for’ propaganda outlet to confront conservative radio. That means it did not utilize proven, successful, talk show hosts, but commedians and others who really had little or no experience. In nyc, for example, they took over a station that did better playing caribbean music, and now have had to move to a station that can not even get its signal across the nyc area! That may not totally signal bankruptcy, but it ‘don’t look good’ do it?
“[Our COUNTRY invaded Iraq and is attempting to help establish a democracy. We are trying to REBUILD that nation. But CNN and CBS don’t talk much about new schools, homes, power plants, hospitals… so I’m hardly surprised you don’t know about that or that the bombings and wanton killing are overwhelmingly committed by “the other guyâ€. Blame America First. I seem to recall a vote in which nearly every Democrat voted FOR the war, but we’re supposed to forget that]”
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 14, 2006 @ 5:50 pm
-Democracy is not on the Bush’s mind [if he has one]. He invaded Iraq for the sole purpose of political gain of the republicans and the fact that Iraq had oil was a bonus.
-Iraq already had schools, homes, power plants, and hospitals and Bush is rebuilding what he destroyed.
-Why would I blame America when it was Bush who invaded and destroyed another country?
-The majority of Democrats in Congress voted against the resolution.
“[That did happen. It happened on both sides. The difference? Christians were acting AGAINST the teachings of their faith when this happened. Muslims FOLLOWED theirs (and CONTINUE to do so to this day). FYI, Jews made up a majority of the population of the areas of Palestine that became Israel. Interesting that these Muslim fanatics of Hamas don’t seem too bothered at all the Palestinean land given to Jordan. And Hizbollah has NO territorial claims at all! Blame America…. Blame the Jews…. Right?]
Comment by Nat ”
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 14, 2006 @ 5:50 pm
-The Christians did it because of their perverted interpretation of what God wants just like the Muslim fanatics.
-I blame perverted intrepretion of religion for causing all this mess.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:14 pmKaty, sometime yesterday a brief announcement appeared that Progressive Policy Institute (I believe – did anyone else see it?) was co-sponsoring with Clear Channel a contest to find the next big progressive talker. This to me would point to the idea that Think Progress/PPI was in communication with Clear Channel over the premature rumors of Air America’s bankruptcy.
I also read during the day yesterday posted on liberal blogs: that founders and previous owners of AIr America (including the Drobnys) might be making a move to buy back the network. This is another possible clue as to who leaked what might be baseless rumors on AAR in order to further harm their standing.
Ironic is that The Radio Equalizer Brian Baloney, who has conducted a monomaniacal daily crusade to call AAR a walking corpse, issued one of the first dirty tricks alerts on this story. And Think Progress has seen their “scoop” devolve into a right wing troll sewer.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:15 pm“Rants. All unproven or debatable. I believe one or two of the things you mention were actually done by Democratic presidents also (ex. FISA), but nobody complained then. Please feel free to elaborate on exactly how these violations have occurred and how they affect anyone…. ”
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 14, 2006 @ 5:59 pm
>>>>>The president subverted the constitution and all of this will be debated in February or March of 2007.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:18 pm“But an abortion is far less traumatic then going to term and giving the child up for adoption, right? Better just to kill the kid off.”
-I’m actually against abortion and I would extremely happy if a woman carried her baby to term and gave it up for adoption instead of abortion but in the end it is her decision to make.
-I see both abortion and putting your baby up for adoption as traumatic.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:26 pmSorry, it was in the story above:
“Radio giant Clear Channel is so committed to progressive talk radio that, this week, it will announce a partnership with the Center for American Progress and MSS Inc. to conduct a nationwide search for the next Progressive Talk Radio Star.”
I still think this is a clue as to who tipped TP to this possibly false story.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:33 pm‘I’m actually against abortion and I would extremely happy if a woman carried her baby to term and gave it up for adoption instead of abortion but in the end it is her decision to make.
-I see both abortion and putting your baby up for adoption as traumatic. ‘
Nat, I ‘hear’ you. I am not sure how this thread on AA got derailed into abortion, but I must say I am at least conflicted on the issue. I don’t want to see this country move backwards into ‘back alley’ abortions, but I also know that a fetus becomes a human child, inside the womb. I hope and pray that medical science will deal with this and that laws will change according to the status of development of the unborn child.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:40 pmThe so-called partial birth abortion makes me ill, but a fair person must realize that at a certian period of time, abortion should not be allowed.
…and the other clue to who might have planted this story I found on Brian Baloney’s Radio Equalizer debunking of same story. Even as AAR’s #1 stalker and doom-sayer, he may have a better record with the facts on this than this site!
“What our own sources are telling the Radio Equalizer is that two potential buyers have recently been looking to scoop up Air America’s assets. But internal board squabbling has created a disunited front, with some members looking to hand the network back to eccentric co- founder (and Huffington Post contributor) Sheldon Drobny, while the rest shop for buyers.”
September 14th, 2006 at 6:42 pmAssuming these figures are correct, what does that tell y’all AA fans?
Audience (in millions):
1. Rush Limbaugh–13.75+
September 14th, 2006 at 6:54 pm2. Sean Hannity–12.50+
3. Michael Savage–8.00+
4. Dr. Laura Schlesinger–7.75+
4. Howard Stern–7.75+
5. Laura Ingraham–5.00+
6. Neil Boortz–3.75+
6. Mike Gallagher–3.75+
7. Jim Bohannon–3.25+
7. Clark Howard–3.25+
7. Bill O’Reilly–3.25+
7. Doug Stephan–3.25+
8. Glenn Beck–2.75+
8. Dr. Joy Browne–2.75+
9. Jerry Doyle–2.25+
9. Kim Komando–2.25+
9. Michael Medved–2.25+
9. Dave Ramsey–2.25+
10. Bill Bennett–2.00+
10. Jim Rome–2.00+
11. Bob Brinker–1.75+
11. ED SCHULTZ–1.75+
12. Tom Leykis–1.50+
12. G. Gordon Liddy–1.50+
13. Jim Cramer–1.25+
13. AL FRANKEN–1.25+
13. Tony Snow–1.25+
14. Alan Colmes–1.00+
14. Dr. Dean Edell–1.00+
14. Phil Hendrie–1.00+
14. Rusty Humphries–1.00+
14. STEPHANIE MILLER–1.00+
If you want to know why some of us Dems vote GOP, listen to Air America. This is why there is such a thing as a reagan democrat
September 14th, 2006 at 6:54 pmI am very open minded. I do believe that the government is too big and powerful. I think hunting down and killing Islamic Fascist is the right thing to do. The Fair Tax is the best tax plan I’ve ever read. I tried to listen to Air America to find out what the “progressive movement†was all about. What I found was “Bush lied, people died.†No explanation or proof. If any conservative idea is presented it was dubbed stupid, raciest, or evil. I looked to Air America for an answer to a question. What are the democrats and “progressives†about. What I found was hate for our nation, and distain for its people.
And that’s all I have to say about that.
September 14th, 2006 at 6:57 pmNat, I ‘hear’ you. I am not sure how this thread on AA got derailed into abortion, but I must say I am at least conflicted on the issue. I don’t want to see this country move backwards into ‘back alley’ abortions, but I also know that a fetus becomes a human child, inside the womb. I hope and pray that medical science will deal with this and that laws will change according to the status of development of the unborn child.
The so-called partial birth abortion makes me ill, but a fair person must realize that at a certian period of time, abortion should not be allowed.
Comment by TrueMac — September 14, 2006 @ 6:40 pm
-It is all based on viability so if scientific evidence comes out that states a fetus is viable in earlier months, the law will have to be changed.
-Many pro-lifers actually believe women would be so cruel as to wait nine months and then get an abortion.
September 14th, 2006 at 7:04 pm-It is all based on viability so if scientific evidence comes out that states a fetus is viable in earlier months, the law will have to be changed.
Agreed.
-Many pro-lifers actually believe women would be so cruel as to wait nine months and then get an abortion.
They need help.
September 14th, 2006 at 7:16 pmKevin — you couldn’t have listened for very long, or else your entire world view is ossified in the language of the radical Bushist world view. If you can’t grasp complex ideas and nuanced arguments, you’re not likely to get much out of Air America. Here’s an example: Our government is too small in the area of providing for the general welfare. That’s a consitutional mandate. Our government is too large in the area of extravagent and demonstrably defective defense systems, in fact, so much has been invested in these systems that once the very wealthiest of Americans have got all their tax cuts, there’s no longer any revenue left for basic defense, much less for maintenance of basic infrastructure. In education and health care, we are well on our way to becoming a third world nation. Bush promulgated fabricated and known-false evidence (lied) that it was necessary for us to invade and occupy Iraq, and American military personnel and non-combatant Iraqis in their hundreds of thousands have been killed as a direct result.
When we make it simple for you, you don’t understand. When we lay out our position in depth, with all its nuance and complexity, you still don’t understand. I would like to help you. My first political campaign was canvassing for Barry Goldwater. I’m now intensely liberal because people who call themselves conservatives have done enormous damage to the country I love, and it’s my feeble attempt to keep the ship of state from turning turtle. They are if nothing else, profoundly fiscally irresponsible. Under the smirking rubric that government is the problem, not the solution, they have proceeded to prove it by mismanaging every single governmental task that has fallen into their incompetent hands.
I wish you well in your search, although I see no evidence of an honest and rigorous search.
September 14th, 2006 at 7:21 pmI have tired of many personalities; Franken, Ed etc because of their inability to seperate good left of center talk from Democratic proaganda.
When they are the best Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartman, Ring of Fire is when they seperate the talk from the propaganda.
In all honesty I more often than not turn off AA not for the talk but Clear Channel rightwing advertising.
Left wing radio success has been in it diverting from the AA format. Our local station is successful because of its local not just national content.
September 14th, 2006 at 7:36 pmAnyone who has a net worth of less than half a billion dollars and thinks the Bush administration has his best interests at heart is seriously mistaken. Liberals may not have the numbers, but we do have a better handle than conservatives about what is going on. We are not the party that mangles the voting machines (and the voting laws) to keep itself in power. Liberals are not friends of Osama bin Laden, no matter what Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld say, and regardless of how many images the conservatives display of American heros juxtaposed with his likeness. Rather, it is our Republican-controlled military who, after the British treed bin Laden shortly after 9/11, told them to stand down and then let him get away, to lose himself in the mountains of Afghanistan. We’ve had no apparent idea of his whereabouts since. It is Bush who pulled US soldiers out of Saudi Arabia, in compliance with Osama bin Laden’s demands, two days before landing on the USS Abraham Lincoln to declare the end of “major combat operations” in Iraq. It is the Bush family who has a cordial relationship with the bin Ladens — not Al Franken. Conservatives — where is your skepticism? Where is your critical intelligence? Where are your survival instincts? Where is your love for America, and for democracy?
America did change on 9/11 — it got dumber.
September 14th, 2006 at 7:43 pmJeany — You don’t know anything about me. You have no idea how I spend my day. The web sites I go to (left and right). You don’t know my level of education, the kind of car I drive, my favorite color, or my last name. I gave an honest assessment of my experience with Air America and you so very eloquently called me stupid.
This is what we know about you Jeany. You are very intelligent. You are unwilling to consider any idea you don’t agree with. And you are rude.
And that’s what I have to say about Jeany
September 14th, 2006 at 7:46 pmOur government is too small in the area of providing for the general welfare. That’s a consitutional mandate.
Not exactly a nuanced argument? ‘General welfare?’ What exactly is that and in a capitolist system, what are the parameters?
Our government is too large in the area of extravagent and demonstrably defective defense systems, in fact, so much has been invested in these systems that once the very wealthiest of Americans have got all their tax cuts, there’s no longer any revenue left for basic defense, much less for maintenance of basic infrastructure. In education and health care, we are well on our way to becoming a third world nation.
Defective defense systems? Nuance me please. I am sure that there are systems that have problems, but when NATO must act, we are requred to lead, and when disasters hit, we are the ones to help. NYC’s public education system spends a very, very, large amount of cash per student and has tremendous problems. Nuance me, please.
so much has been invested in these systems that once the very wealthiest of Americans have got all their tax cuts, there’s no longer any revenue left for basic defense
The Top 50% of wage earners pay 96.54% of All Income Taxes.
The top 1% pay more than a third: 34.27%.
Somehow that does not seem ‘fair’. Simple isn’t it?
I have seen figures that show that said tax cuts have actually increased tax revenue.
September 14th, 2006 at 7:54 pmThere appears to be more than one way to look at that issue.
Some liberal gazillionaire needs to step up.
Why? Can’t you libs depend on the free market?
September 14th, 2006 at 7:57 pmWe are not the party that mangles the voting machines (and the voting laws) to keep itself in power.
Let’s be fair and balanced. In the past century, the Left fostered voter fraud and indeed JFK lost the presidential election that put him in the Oval Office. Who cares as long as Marilyn was there?
You want to talk about Gerry&Mandering? Check out the crazy district lines all over the South drawn by the congress of the Left.
Rather, it is our Republican-controlled military who, after the British treed bin Laden shortly after 9/11, told them to stand down and then let him get away, to lose himself in the mountains of Afghanistan. We’ve had no apparent idea of his whereabouts since.
Come on. Both Bush and Clinton are to blame for that chap. Clinton refused to take possession, and a bunch of other stuff. Let’s be fair.
It is the Bush family who has a cordial relationship with the bin Ladens — not Al Franken.
No, but Clinton did as well. And while we are at it, both Ted Kennedy’s dad, and George Bush’s dad had biz relationships with the Nazis.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:10 pmWhy? Can’t you libs depend on the free market?
Pretty clear from the news, AA would not exist.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:14 pmSirius Satellite Radio has a good progressive talk station with “Talk Left”. They have Ed Shultz, The Young Turks (my fav), Stephanie Miller, Tom Hartman, Lynn Samuels, and Alex Bennet. You guys should check it out if you haven’t already. No, I do not work for Sirus, I’m just a satisfied customer.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:15 pmKevin — You posted a picture drawn with crayolas, and I evaluated what I saw. You said you didn’t get much out of Air America and gave examples, simple examples drawn in crayon. I listen to the network and I hear something different, which I attempted to demonstrate. How to explain the difference?
I am rude. I don’t care about your little personal dribblings or what kind of car you drive. I sought to juxtapose my own evaluation of Air America with yours. I’m not in any way responsible for what you take away from what you hear.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:17 pmMay I point out that many Republican “success stories” have all marched through Chapter 11 at one time or another. Some numerous times. It happens.
The fact that a bankruptcy might occur reflects on management, not on-air talent. Obviously the “suits” failed to generate the revenue and/or lower operating costs to reduce the amount of revenue needed to show a profit.
Comparisons with right-wing talk are irrelevant. The fact is that the Limbaughs, Liddy, and others have had two decades to grow and grow as part of what David Brock called the “Republican Sound Machine.” It didn’t happen overnight, it took time. And in some instances success was bought. Some of those rightwing bestsellers became bestsellers because of bulk purchases and cross promotion by partisan groups and rich benefactors.
The immediate problem to be resolved is to secure an influx of new capital to be spent within the confines of new business plan. If there was a plan in the past it was schizophrenic. The “vision” seemed to be that Franken, Rhoades & Co. just needed to talk and people would listen and advertisers would buy time. Didn’t work out. Perhaps the idea that a “network” of affiliates broadcasting all day and evening was flawed. Perhpas there needed to be more advertising and promotion.
AAR has been lucky to attract some loyal talent and staff. From what I as a listener (someone who’s been tuning in on XM virtually since Day-One) can figure out, they treat talent like crap. The treatment of Marc Maron was a bad P.R. move. They’ve done it again with the dismissal of Malloy.
Now we apparently have the Young Turks replacing Springer (potentially a good move) from 6 to 9 am. Where does that leave Mark Riley? If Mark is anything he’s a rock in the world of news and a pleasant voice in the morning. Is he going to be sent to the dungeon of 5am to 6am? Just one hour for a guy who is both talented and knowledgeable?
Springer has a post today in which he says affiliates have been given the choice of either Springer or Sam Seder. Nothing like competing against yourself. Such is the AAR mentality. The lack of communication with talent and listeners is very disturbing. Not the way to run any business.
Final point. One thing us liberals/progressives do is hold our comrades up to litmus test after litmus test and if someone fails on a couple of key questions they are trashed. Two of the best liberal voices on the air are Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller. I don’t agree with them all the time. I thought Ed completely missed the boat with his defense of Joe Liberman. But I still think that Ed is a positive force who can bring lots of support to progressive candidates in November. Ditto Miller. If these folks prosper it’s good for all of us. The same applies to Mike Malloy. So he’s over the edge on some things. In talk radio that’s the rule more often than not.
The point is we need a big tent for everyone and maturity to disagree without being disagreeable. Now, if we could only find a handful of 50,000 watt transmitters with a license.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:21 pm‘The fact that a bankruptcy might occur reflects on management, not on-air talent. Obviously the “suits†failed to generate the revenue’
It is simple. The biz depends on numbers and the numbers generate the income from advertisers. This has not happened.
‘Comparisons with right-wing talk are irrelevant.’
Of course, that is relevant, simply because it is a biz and we are talking about competition.
‘I thought Ed completely missed the boat with his defense of Joe Liberman’
His defense of Lieberman was totally correct. All the anti-semitic attacks on AAR were horrible.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:37 pmIt Is So Nice To See The MoonBats In Full Flight>>>>Priceless>>>>>>
September 14th, 2006 at 8:42 pmThe Lib Group Think Is In A Group Decline Today…..
September 14th, 2006 at 8:52 pmWait Till The Nov. Results…
I say good bye to bad radio!! Air America spewed “America Bashing” 24/7. It was tiresome. Though our country is far from perfect, we still have the opportunity to have decenting voices whether they are left or right. Air America sees no good qualities in the U.S. and I do not accept that dribble. I much prefer Alan Combs. Combs is a compassionate liberal who believes in American values and ideals. Being a liberal does not mean that you Hate America. Being a liberal does not always mean that you disagree with conservatives. Liberalism is a philosophy on how you should live your life and how society should operate. Air America made liberalism into a religion with a core belief that anything conservative is evil.
September 14th, 2006 at 9:31 pmI’m glad aar is in trouble when haven’t they not been? they only go onto low wattage/poor rated stations to carry their network, and usurp that stations previous programming. That’s not very liberial to me, it’s kind of like colonizing, I also find it interesting that the few diverse voices they have on aar are on either before the crack of dawn aka Mark Riley or Chuck D late sunday night/early Monday norning….geeeez aar that’s really liberial and diverse huh?
September 14th, 2006 at 10:03 pmaar is not a real operation, and not liberial at all if u ask me, here in nyc we thought aar would be diverse and reflect the diverseness of nyc, but to our surprise it was just another mainstream front to get bush out of office and make people of color vote democratic, aar also is shame because and fraud because they only let the few diverse people on the mic be on either just before the crack of dawn like mark riley or late sundaynight early monday morning like chuck d, that don’t seem very liberial or diverse to me, when the aar flagship stations have both been black owned, that’s a funny way of showing ur gratitude to the stations that gave u homes aar…real liberial and diverse? i don’t think so.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:10 pmThis is great!! A few conservative thinkers get into the frey and all the lefties can do is bash for they can’t defend their own “Great Society” ideas.
That was what was wrong w/ AA. They very rarely took calls and create honest debate. Listen to the likes of Michael Medved or Dennis Prager. Most all the right talk show beg for the “Progressives” to call in and debate. It’s interesting and thought provoking that’s why there’s high ratings.
I grew up in a Democrat Union household. My late Father, a coal miner actually became a “Reagan Guy” after seeing how the unions were only there to help the non producers and make a cushie life for the Union Bosses. (Sounds like the Dem Party in a nutshell)
This is the greatest country in history. Name one people who have given so much of their childre, their money and thier technology to free and ease the suffering of others throughout the world.
I’m tired of hearing from the likes of Streisand, Moorer, Kerry, Kennedy, Soros and all the other elitest who bash the right and jump in their private jets and surrond themselves with their own in the Hamptons
We defeated Nazism, Communisim and next up ….Liberalism!! Bada-bing!
Capitalism, embrace it or get the hell out of the way!!
September 14th, 2006 at 10:26 pmHow sad to see this happen. But things can change. But I have to say after listening to most of the programs on Air America after awhile I had to stop due to such negativity and NASTY comments. It just got too depressing. If I continued to listen, I would just get too angry. I knew some of the comments were too outragous but how could they get away with these things? Be honest, you can still see the horrible, nasty, name calling in these comment above. Is this what being a liberal is? I guess I could say that Air America has converted me also….into NOT being a liberal. WOW, that was a shock to me also.
I started listening to conservative radio also, you do not find negative comments where Americal is going into the ground like you do on air america. It actually gave me Hope for my country. It is SO MUCH better listening to all the positive things going on. Even Tv and newspapers report all the negative things.
Thanks Air america for showing me the light…..
Thanks to Sean Hannity…I have hope.
America – open up your minds with conservative radio not the close minded liberals on air america. No wonder they are bankrupt.
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September 14th, 2006 at 10:56 pmYAY! Air America is hateful mean negative close minded anti american BS. Unlike my liberal buddies I listen to it all the ime to get a fair view of the other side. I bet theres not a single liberal out there that listens to conservative radio to get both sides. close minded bigots!
September 14th, 2006 at 11:11 pmHow sad to see this happen. But things can change. But I have to say after listening to most of the programs on Air America after awhile I had to stop due to such negativity and NASTY comments. It just got too depressing. If I continued to listen, I would just get too angry. I knew some of the comments were too outragous but how could they get away with these things? Be honest, you can still see the horrible, nasty, name calling in these comment above. Is this what being a liberal is? I guess I could say that Air America has converted me also….into NOT being a liberal. WOW, that was a shock to me also.
I started listening to conservative radio also, you do not find negative comments where Americal is going into the ground like you do on air america. It actually gave my Hope for my country. It is SO MUCH better listening to all the positive things going on. Even Tv and newspapers report all the negative things.
Thanks Air america for showing me the light…..
Thanks to Sean Hannity…I have hope.
America – open up your minds with conservative radio not the close minded liberals on air america. No wonder they are bankrupt.
I do have to say one thing to us liberals. They DID count the votes in the 2000 election. Bush won.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:14 pmBy the way, in case you liberals didn’t hear:
they did count all the votes…Bush WON!!!! get over it.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:18 pmThose reichwing shows have their funders and don’t have to worry about selling ads(see the the article today about the Texas guy funding the Swiftboaters). I wonder when the last time Fox News made a profit.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:38 pmWe on the left need to get behind these folks. It’s one of the few ways we can get our message out. We sure can’t depend on the “Liberal media,” cause they are all owned by the fascist corporations.
I love it…a bunch of losers finally hit the dust…couldnt happen to a nicer bunch of nut cases. good riddance.
Bush 1….NutCases 0
September 14th, 2006 at 11:45 pmSome legacy left by Air America: You folks still don’t dare use the word liberal. You never offer dialogue — even Fox News has more variety of opinions in an hour than you do in a week. Your niche has been filled by NPR, and your audience is over there sucking up subsidized lefty opinion. All in all, a pretty lousy job by your crowd.
September 15th, 2006 at 12:01 amSome legacy left by Air America: You folks still don’t dare use the word liberal. You never offer dialogue — even Fox News has more variety of opinions in an hour than you do in a week. Your niche has been filled by NPR, and your audience is over there sucking up subsidized lefty opinion. All in all, a pretty lousy job by your crowd.
September 15th, 2006 at 12:01 amAir America failed because of the right wingers…..
BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Gonna be a great November for us.
Oh yeah,
September 15th, 2006 at 12:05 amAir America is going belly up because pathological outraged, no matter how clever to attempt it in versimillitude or righteous infignation eventually does to the listener what the hypocondriac does to his doctor: turns him off.
I was a completely apollitical human being until 9/11. Hungrey for any kind of news as I lived close to ground zero, I tapped into Howard Stern, Shawn Hannity, and, of course, NBC, ABC, andCBS.
Then I began hearing the most irrational, passive aggressive bullsh1t that I had ever heard–conspiracists (the U.S. had taken down the twin towers; bombs stategially placed brought them down… .) The source of this lunacy was always the same: liberals still outraged that Al Gore wasn”t behind the desk of the oval office.
America finally made its debut and in one hour I heard the word “hate” (the mantra of AA hosts) mentioned more than I had in 10 years.
My gut reaction was one based on practical experience: any one–whether it was Randi Rhodes, Sam Seder, or Jeneanne Garolalo was not to be trusted; they were just seething cauldrons of hostility cloaking that outrage in the most despicable manner. The result: a guy who had pulled for JFK, Lyndon Johnson, Hubert Humphrey, Bobbie Kennedy, Jimmy Carter (and even wrote a letter to Bill Clinton championing him to stay the course through the Lewinsky scandal, turned around and walked away from the democratic party which had been hijacked by a cadre of soul-sick, vengeful paranoids who saw evil, criminality and deception around every corner.
September 15th, 2006 at 1:03 amSelf-appointed conduitsof the truth who knew nothing about seminal cases like Youngstown Steel v. Sawyer, but who still declared the evasion of Iraq as inconstitutional. The half-truths ultimately became an avalanche of misinformation, and this group of malcontents have now been devoured by their own outrage.
Without a doubt, in one word, this thread has become…..
TROLLTASTIC!!!!
I find it odd that all of these right wingers come out for this story, not for the thousands of others that have appeared here daily, where we throw facts in their face about their leaders that they elected, about the lies that this administration is built on…oh well.
Comment by loserboy — September 14, 2006 @ 8:21 am
Right on. You nailed it.
September 15th, 2006 at 1:21 amYes, yes, AAR loves to bash Bush, but that doesn’t mean that Bush doesn’t suck. This unfortunate news only means that a business might fail…, much the same as every business venture this president ever associated himself with and as the American economy will demonstrate with this president’s so-called ‘guidance’. Gee, people floating in the streets in New Orleans, Americans dying in two wars, the majority of the world hating Americans like never before (and with good reason) and some celebrate the news of a bankruptcy. Frankly, we, as Americans have much more important issues to consider. We have a madman in the White House. Our Constitution is about to become obsolete through the failure of our representatives to stand up to the criminal Bush administration and the likelihood that this administration might not leave in 2008. Radio will not work. It’s time to take action against those who would harm our republic.
September 15th, 2006 at 1:59 amOh, it is amazing how the wingers show lack of knowledge. Oh AAR is soooo hatemongering. Reading these comments show me that the wingnuts are still as venomous as they ever have been. Yes, since the start of AAR we LIBERALS have become more mean and nasty. Only because all of your hatefilled rightwinged lies. Have any of you ACTUALLY researched any of the claims of the Rush’s, Sean’s ect…..
September 15th, 2006 at 2:16 amI have and usually they are half truths or lies that are spun, because they now most people are lazy and will never fact check them. Before you get your panties in a wad, yes I also check what I here from the left. It comes out to about right: 80% lie or halftruth and 20% truth or unfindable; left: 15% lie or halftruth and 85% truth or unfindable. That is only my personal unpublished reseach, if you don’t believe it do your own research. It is very easy, just open your eyes and mind, talk to people about what is happening with them, read books and newspapers, search the internet, and MOST important question everything that radio hosts say left and right.
It is claimed that all AAR is, is Bush hating. 1. Questioning the tactics of any administration is not hating if the Checks and Balances that our beautiful Constitution requires have gone by the wayside. allowing the administration to do as it pleases. Why has Bush only vetoed 1 bill at this point, when everyother president had vetoed dozens if not hundreds of bills at this point of their leadership. 2. Since 1992 the people of Our Great Country have been bombarded with Clinten hate by the rightwing media or as it has become the mainstream (driveby) media.
Questioning authority is not hate speach. If it was Rosa Parks, Huey Long, Martin Luther King Jr. and many others would not be looked at as leaders that made our awesome country into the best country the world has seen.
Questioning is important for democracy, it rights the wrongs and makes it stronger.
-Democracy is not on the Bush’s mind [if he has one]. He invaded Iraq for the sole purpose of political gain of the republicans and the fact that Iraq had oil was a bonus.
-Iraq already had schools, homes, power plants, and hospitals and Bush is rebuilding what he destroyed.
-Why would I blame America when it was Bush who invaded and destroyed another country?
-The majority of Democrats in Congress voted against the resolution.
By nat
- Democracy not on his mind? You folks are so blinded by hate it is unreal. I suppose Bush fought the elections over there tooth and nail? Oil? Yeah. That’s why we’re paying $1.25 at the pump right now, I suppose. The fact is you hate Bush and no what he does you find a way to criticize him. In your eyes he can do nothing right.
- Iraq was a disaster that had been put into two wars by Saddam. He terrorized his people and attacked his neighbors. As Iraqis suffered, he built palaces for himself, not hospitals or schools. I gueess acoording to you Iraq was a people’s utopia that was destroyed by the evil Nazi Bush…
- Contrary to popular liberal belief, Bush is not a dictator. You just keep bleating the same tired lib rhetoric.
- Did they vote against it after they voted for it? You guys seem to change views whenever the wind blows or a new poll comes out. It’s hard to keep track.
September 15th, 2006 at 9:09 amIs progressive another word for left wing? I can’t tell……..
September 15th, 2006 at 9:13 am-The Christians did it because of their perverted interpretation of what God wants just like the Muslim fanatics.
-I blame perverted intrepretion of religion for causing all this mess.
- nat
What you fail to see is that you are only half right. Mohammed was a warrior and a killer. he spread his faith by the sword and created a predatroy religion where one can point to their holy texts and justify homicide bombings of innocents and brainwash young into doing it with promises of eternal heavenly orgies.
Christ was a man of love and peace. The New Testament does not contain quotation after quotation calling for violence and revenge (as does the Quran – check for yourself).
If you know anything about these two religions, you would see that violence is NOT a perversion of Islam. People can read the words of the prophet and justify to their heart’s content. Not true of the words of Jesus Christ.
Your attempt at moral equivalency is totally wthout merit. Islam and Christianity are VASTLY different as regards violonce, killing, repression, slavery… You are wrong. I hope someday you will see that.
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September 15th, 2006 at 9:24 am-It is all based on viability so if scientific evidence comes out that states a fetus is viable in earlier months, the law will have to be changed.
-Many pro-lifers actually believe women would be so cruel as to wait nine months and then get an abortion.
Comment by Nat
FYI, many late term abortions occur in this country. if I get the time I’ll try and look up the stats. It is ironic that pro-baby killing supporters have the benefit of not having been aborted themselves and try to comfort themsleves and their sould with nice-sounding phrases like “Choice” (as if the baby is ever consulted) and rants like “Stay out of my body” (when there is a separate individual involved – different DNA and all from moment one).
BTW, having a baby and aborting are both probably traumatic, I agree. But at least one of those options doesn’t involve murder.
September 15th, 2006 at 9:27 amNews article in the media today;
September 15th, 2006 at 9:46 amClear Channel seriously considering selling radio network!
Moonbats – I know this will be difficult, but actually concentrate on all of the following before you formulate your ill thought out, lock step tribal chants. Since conservatism is a growth/maturity process after your brain has fully developed, I fear that we may lose many of you along the way. Pity.
About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:
“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship”
“The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. Bondage to spiritual faith
2. Spiritual faith to great courage
3. Courage to liberty
4. Liberty to abaundance
5. Abundance to complacenty
6. Complacenty to apathy
7. Apathy to dependence”
Population of counties won by Gore – 127 million, Bush – 143 million
Square miles of land won by Gore – 580,000, Bush – 2,427,000
States won by Gore – 19, Bush – 29
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore – 13.2, Bush – 2.1
In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the tax-paying citizens of this great country.
Gore’s territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off government welfare.
The U.S. is now somewhat between the “complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some 40% of the nation’s population having reached the “governmental dependency” phase.
Thanks, losers – your leaders and chief constituency are destroying one of the great civilizations on earth.
September 15th, 2006 at 10:24 amIt’s not all that sad that AA is leaving the air ways. The free market has spoken and it looks as if no one cares for what most of the hosts have to say. Maybe because they have nothing to say?? It seems as if all the hosts are from the world of ‘has beens’ from the world of entertainment. Can ONE of the hosts say one sentence without a joke/ laugh or a ‘huh’ or a ‘you know’? The finaces of AA have always been in question. Now it’s time to pay the piper. Oh, no money for that———–
September 15th, 2006 at 10:24 amShow me these facts you keep talking about. Show me where Bush knew about 9/11 before hand and the Jews are told to get out ahead of time? You can’t. Just because your buddy told you it is true does not make is so. You tell this to yourselves so many times you start to believe this garbage. Look in the mirror. You are conspiracy nuts like it or not.
Bush won TWICE get over it.
You call conservatives people of hate yet all you do is name call. You compare Bush to Hitler but when we call terrorists Islamic- Fascists you get up in arms that we might be insulting the murderers.
Your leaders in congress care more about protecting terrorist cell phone rights than you do about American citizens rights to live. If we are so bad then GET OUT! Grab Alec Baldwin and leave the country. You people are self hating, America hating conspiracy nuts.
You claim the right to state your side of the issue but can’t defend it. Then you try and take away our right to speak. You hate Rush and Sean (who I do think are blow-hards) but you won’t listen to the other side and make a true informed decision. You want Ann Coulter to shut up (censorship) rather than arguing any point she brings up. You try to silence because you arguments fall apart in front of facts.
I hope the true American who found this site stay. The site has great topic headers like “Corrupt Establishmentâ€, “Radical Right Wing Agenda†and “Incompetent Establishmentâ€. Who are the hate filled radicals here? Look in the mirror. This website has never had so much discussion and activity until the Center and Right people came aboard. You people just sat here and made cute Bush bashing names for our “elected†officials. I hope everyone looks around this site and comments until it drive the nuts crazy.
September 15th, 2006 at 10:29 amHey Mr. Inform Yourself. Do you have any information? You think Bush is breaking constitutional law? You think he is trying to subvert the check and balances of the system?
Look at the real facts. Liberal judges are trying to “Legislate from the benchâ€. This means they are trying to by-pass the legislative branch. After more then 50 years of Democrat control of the House and Senate the republican finally took control during the Clinton administration. Liberals can’t handle the truth. So Clinton appointed liberal judges try to by-pass the legislative branch.
You keep saying how informed you are but all you do is tow the Moon-Bat line and spout you made up and admitted unpublished statistics. The facts from your research ares from other idiots like yourself.
Clinton is the one who said “Executive Privilege†more time than he cheated on his wife. The Demorats loved it when he pulled that garbage. But now that a Republican is in office the president has too much power. You can’t have to both ways.
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Oil below 63$ per barrel, gasoline below 2$ per gallon in Iowa, and the Dow about 150 points away from an all-time high….oh, and by the way AAR is going tits up.
It’s the economy, stupid! That’s why I’ll be the one doing the gloating when the first Wednesday in November arrives.
September 15th, 2006 at 10:54 amUh, excuse me, isn’t “Democrat Soldier” an oxymoron as in “French Hero”?
September 15th, 2006 at 11:33 amMaybe AAR can find a place on the Comedy Channel. Their attempt at logic and reason always made me laugh.
September 15th, 2006 at 11:53 amHmm, my best friend was a Navy Seal and his whole family has always been Democrats . . . .
September 15th, 2006 at 12:02 pmFranken says he’s flown on United Airlines and they were bankrupt for three years. The big difference is that UA had many competitors. AA does not. There is simply no market for liberal radio in America.
September 15th, 2006 at 12:05 pmNo Market? Tell that to Jones Radio Networks, which actually have the most successful progressive talkers: Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller.
Is 100 Stations not a big enough market?
Democrats, too, need to shop…eat…consume all the products that advertisers have to sell. There is plenty of market.
Please, give it a listen and see if you still feel the same way.
September 15th, 2006 at 12:38 pmMight I recommend some potential sources for infusions of funds? These guys would no doubt be stupid-happy to write a check:
1) George Soros
2) The bin-Laden Benevolent Fund for Keeping America Stupid & Vulnerable
3) France
4) The Dumbocratic Party
5) CAIR
6) Hizbollah
7) Hamas
8) Kim Jong Il
9) Terrorists for Saddam
10) The Boy’s & Girl’s Clubs of America (unless you’ve already tepped them out)
Please feel free to help out and suggest other sources so that our utopian, blind-to-reality, ignoramous leftist friends can have something to listen to.
September 15th, 2006 at 12:41 pmit seems increasingly clear that thinkprogress allowed itself to be used by someone wishing to damage AAR. Even if AAR hadn’t given CAP enormous publicity and support, especially Al Franken, this would be a sleazy move. If Judd has any integrity, and/or balls, he should name the three “independent sources” that he pimped TP’s integrity out to. If you don’t, then all the standards of accountability you demand from the rightwing are bullshit. Oh, yeah, and Al Franken should wash his hands of Judd and Christy Harvey.
We all await your retraction, apology and the naming of your sources.
September 15th, 2006 at 12:49 pmI would be sorry to see AAR go off the air – it is hard to find alternative progressive talk. I love Randi, but don’t like to listen to Al (boring). And can live without any of the other hosts.
Frankly, my favorite was Mike Malloy. He was lied to and treated poorly by AAR. I realized it was just business as usual when he was fired and I lost all enthusiasm for AAR. When I have time, I try to listen to Randi. I am sure Mike and Randi will find spots on other stations if AAR goes under – I’ll watch their sites and listen wherever they go! If possible, I will sign on for streaming or whatever it takes!
Marye B.
September 15th, 2006 at 12:58 pmOnce again…it is the market place that determines the success or failure of a business enterprize. Keep in mind that being bankrupt doesn’t equate to dead air. The sad fact is that in attempt to compete with Conservative Talk…liberals went with style (Al F. and Randi R.) instead of substance. I heard no passion…just emotional rants. AAR was ill-conceived and not able to have the patience to build a good listener base. Sadly…”progressives” have forgotten the definition of the “Classical Liberal” (JFK and Harry Truman). Come 2008…it will be 1968 for the Democrats. such is life.
September 15th, 2006 at 1:05 pmSo many comments by ignorant FReepers and WorldNutDaily.nut nutbags, so little time–not to mention inclination–to read them all. You GW Bush authoritarian Republican neo-fascist blind followers are hilarious but pathetic! AAR hasn’t even gone under (yet) and you write as though it has…it just goes to show how all of you are completely divorced from the “reality-based community” and how you would all rather believe what you want to believe rather than knowing what the facts are. The abject ignorance and fear-based foolishness of your comments all point to how “Dubya” Bush “conservatism” is headed for a serious crack-up–it’s sheer stupidity. The pseudo-”conservative” commenters here are representative of some of the dumbest fools and suckers to be found anywhere on earth. You fools show just how badly the US public school system is in need of a massive overhaul. None of you learned anything about history, economics, political science, psychology, etc. What a sad bunch of dumbasses! The laughs are on you chumps, not Air America Radio! Laughing at your blind ignorance! Hahahahaha!
September 15th, 2006 at 1:39 pmYour right ITC, I had been blind but now I see the light!
But how can Alec Baldwin be president if he lives in Canada?
September 15th, 2006 at 1:57 pmWho’s Alec Baldwin? (Is he related to Ron Silver?)
September 15th, 2006 at 2:01 pmSeptember 15th, 2006 at 2:07 pm
Progressive:
- Progressively higher taxes
- Progressively lower growth
- Progressively worse and more expensive public schools
- Progressively larger welfare state
- Progressively weaker nation
September 15th, 2006 at 2:08 pmGW Bush “Conservatism”:
Conserve “Red Neck State” ignorance.
Conserve “Red Neck State” obesity and gluttony.
Conserve “Red Neck State” poverty and powerlessness.
Conserve Rush Limbaugh propaganda to keep the red necks in “their place”.
Conserve Rupert Murdoch Fake News propaganda to make the red necks love their own slavery.
Mission Accomplished!
Long live GW Bush “conservatism” (in infamy).
September 15th, 2006 at 2:23 pmWhy is it that when a person puts something in writing, it is too often considered the truth? Governments, businesses and individuals put sentences and paragraphs together in writing every day. Moreover, those words have as much truth to them as “the earth is flatâ€. Oh my, could it now be true that the earth is in fact “flatâ€? I just wrote it. Well, to the best of my knowledge and experience, it is not! My point is I am seeing thousands of words written that are making conclusions about the outcome and demise of Air America Radio, from everyone (right, left, progressives, and other titles). I want to hear another view, think about it, research it more if necessary, and then form my own conclusion. AAR provides this. Let us not jump to conclusions and forget a common theme that all of the talk show hosts on AAR follow. That theme is simply we need to pay attention to what all of our politicians say and write, and question their actions. Then go to the voting booth and voice your conclusion. And these days, question the conclusion at voting booth itself. If we do not do this, then we are all guilty of allowing the democracy that our founding fathers constructed, to parish. Oh yes, our founding fathers put it all in writing!
September 15th, 2006 at 2:39 pmConserve Rupert Murdoch Fake News propaganda to make the red necks love their own slavery.
Mission Accomplished!
Long live GW Bush “conservatism†(in infamy).
Comment by ITC — September 15, 2006 @ 2:23 pm
ITC, I hope you are open enough to accept this response from a determined independent. Prior to Fox News’arrival we had no serious response to the MSM. As an indie, I want, I wish, to see both sides.
The Sunday ‘news’ programs have been a major factor in the propaganda ‘wars’, and it makes sense to detail what is there. Te Fox News Sunday political show, hosted by Mike Wallace’s son, has two ’super Leftists’ from NPR on the panel.
September 15th, 2006 at 2:47 pmOTOH, there are three other shows hosted by Russert, Matthews, and Lil’Steph (Democrat operatives and of course, Steph right out of the Clinton White House).
There are other shows, but none are conservative, and I can understand that some listening to AAR might think that Russert is ‘too conservative’, but in the real world, the Democrat Party basically controls this stuff.
And so, folks like me, want to see, to hear, opinions from all sides. Does that not register with you?
Reading the posted comments…reinforces the theory of implosion. Name calling…enjoying the others’ pain…wishing ill to those who differ. Truly sad…death of the Republic. Red States…Blue States… the sheer foolish is impressive. all this…are we worthy of this great country? such is life.
September 15th, 2006 at 2:48 pmFolks, get your heads out of your rear ends. Despite the financial shenanigans, your AA would have been a contender if you had enough American that wanted to listen to this stuff. The facts are (and I’m sorry to state this, as obvious as it is to people like me) that conservative-leaning people do listen to the radio to learn more. It is often posited that the right wing radio listener is a sheep willing to do as told and indeed listens to get marching orders. It is also often stated that they are stupid, despite much evidence that they are highly educated in general.
The Left listener appears to me to think he/she has all the answers going in and doesn’t need to learn. Hence, they don’t listen to talk radio, preferring music or NPR-like broadcasts with a mix of news and special interest stories instead of the give and take that talk radio should provide and indeed most radio from the Right does provide. There are blowhards like Michael Savage, but Rush is a much funner program than most Lefties will acknowledge and he and Medved both encourage dissent callers. In fact, Hugh Hewitt does as well and arguably the best out there, Dennis Prager, depends on views from the Left for his topics when he goes political.
Someone here said they need a gazillionaire to finace AA. Think about how pathetic that statement is, along with the need to do a “search” for new talent. I say you are all “pathetic” not in a derogatory way, but to point out how clearly such thinking is indeed pathetic.
Sorry it’s that way, but it is.
September 15th, 2006 at 2:49 pmGW Bush “Conservatismâ€:
Conserve “Red Neck State†ignorance.
Conserve “Red Neck State†obesity and gluttony.
Conserve “Red Neck State†poverty and powerlessness.
Conserve Rush Limbaugh propaganda to keep the red necks in “their placeâ€.
Conserve Rupert Murdoch Fake News propaganda to make the red necks love their own slavery.
Mission Accomplished!
Long live GW Bush “conservatism†(in infamy).
Comment by ITC
Hey ITC, that’s a great response. And typical liberal hysterics, bleating and lack of substance. “Red Neck State”… I suppose to you that must actually encompass most of our great nation, including many states with very large minority populations. Ignorance? This must mean that we don’t treat the crap that the likes of Dan Rather report as being chocolate ice cream. I bet you love chocolate ice cream, ITC. Obesity and gluttony? One of your key arguments is “Statistically you’ve got more fat people than us”? Brilliant. Is that a major plank of the liberal platform? Poverty and powerlessness? I thought those folks fitting that description voted Democrat. It’s the rich and powerful exploiters who vote Republican, right? Oh, and people who actually work for a living. “Rush Limbaugh propaganda”? As opposed to the Truth that comes from the mouths and works of the likes of Michael Moore and ex-SNL comics? Oh, and Michael Moore is a fat glutton and he’s on your side. “Fake News”? Like arch-conservative Dan Rather’s? Like the incredibly objective editorials in the New York Times? The stuff put out by CNN (which was started by yet another arch-conservative)?
Long Live Reagan Conservatism
September 15th, 2006 at 2:54 pmSo many comments by ignorant FReepers and WorldNutDaily.nut nutbags, . You GW Bush authoritarian Republican neo-fascist blind followers are hilarious but pathetic! AAR hasn’t even gone under (yet)
The abject ignorance and fear-based foolishness of your comments all point to how “Dubya†Bush “conservatism†is headed for a serious crack-up–it’s sheer stupidity. The pseudo-â€conservative†commenters here are representative of some of the dumbest fools and suckers to be found anywhere on earth. You fools show just how badly the US public school system is in need of a massive overhaul. None of you learned anything about history, economics, political science, psychology, etc. What a sad bunch of dumbasses! The laughs are on you chumps, not Air America Radio! Laughing at your blind ignorance! Hahahahaha!
This appears to be why there can be no serious conversation with ITC.
September 15th, 2006 at 3:00 pmConservatism= free will, strong minds and backs
September 15th, 2006 at 3:05 pmLiberalism=weak will, feeble minds and broken backs
We see the glass as half full, you half empty- self hating losers.
Die with your radio station.
We rule, you drool.
As long as everyone was eating the liberal line spewed out by the MSM and had no choice, these clowns were happy as pigs in poop. Enter Fox News and a different perspective (even with Leftist views clearly represented on the panels), and they go into hysterics. It is laughable. Fox News audience is dwarfed by ABC, CBS and NBC before you even get to CNN and MessNBC. But a little competition and you pansies scream like little girls and bleat like sheep. And are we to believe that the NY times is conservative? LA Times? Washingon Post?
You are pathetic.
September 15th, 2006 at 3:09 pmITC:
September 15th, 2006 at 4:25 pmI – Intellectual
T – Thinking
C – Challenged
This is quite a fascinating discussion. The economic lessons of Air America are undeniable. First Air America, from a business standpoint, is fundamentally different from Rush Limbaugh’s success. Rush in many ways created, or at least popularized, the issue orientated talk radio format. Air America was not revolutionary in this way, and can not attribute early failings to a misunderstanding of the product in the marketplace. Furthermore, from what I can gather, Air America was launched with considerable press and with recognizable personalities in the news savvy population. Air America can not in turn ascribe flagging listenership to a lack of awareness of the product in the consumer base. Inadequate demand, from an economic perspective, seems to be the principal cause of insufficient revenues. Of course depressed advertising revenues are ultimately the result of a small marketshare; advertisers are uninterested in communicating their message to a lacking audience. Why is the demand low though? Demand is low because the product is viewed to be of inferior quality to its competitors in the marketplace. This is necessarily so because the “price†(time invested in listening) of each radio program is the same, leaving only the perceived quality of each program able to shift demand. In this case Air America was perceived to have less value than its competitors. This could be accredited to uninteresting personalities, poor production, and incompetent management. As marketed though, with an emphasis on issues, it is possible to suppose that the Air America perspective was likewise in unprofitable demand.
The cause of Air America’s decreased demand is difficult to ascertain with any finality (although leading reasons have been suggested). It does seem though that Air America’s demise is the consequence of inadequate demand. It should be discouraging to us conservatives that Air America will not be able to continue to run its course of decreasing demand, and forcing listeners to the alternatives. But there it is, inconvertible and corporeal, the economic rationality.
September 15th, 2006 at 4:39 pmThis is quite a fascinating discussion. I have little experience with Air America programming and thusly cannot comment on its quality. The economic lessons are undeniable however. First Air America, from a business standpoint, is fundamentally different from Rush Limbaugh’s success. Rush in many ways created, or at least popularized, the issue orientated talk radio format. Air America was not revolutionary in this way, and can not attribute early failings to a misunderstanding of the product in the marketplace. Furthermore, from what I can gather, Air America was launched with considerable press and with recognizable personalities in the news savvy population. Air America can not in turn ascribe flagging listenership to a lack of awareness of the product in the consumer base. Inadequate demand, from an economic perspective, seems to be the principal cause of insufficient revenues. Of course depressed advertising revenues are ultimately the result of a small marketshare; advertisers are uninterested in communicating their message to a lacking audience. Why is the demand low though? Demand is low because the product is viewed to be of inferior quality of its competitors in the marketplace. This is necessarily so because the “price†of each radio program is the same (time invested in listening), leaving only the perceived quality of each program able to shift demand. In this case Air America was perceived to have less value than its competitors. This could be accredited to uninteresting personalities, poor production, and incompetent management. As marketed though, with an emphasis on issues, it is possible to suppose that the Air America perspective was likewise in unprofitable demand.
The cause of Air America’s decreased demand is difficult to ascertain with any finality (although leading reasons have been suggested). It does seem though that Air America’s demise is the consequence of inadequate demand. It should be discouraging to us conservatives that Air America will not be able to continue to run its course of decreasing demand, and forcing listeners to the alternatives. But there it is, inconvertible and corporeal, the economic rationality.
September 15th, 2006 at 4:41 pmITC:
I – Intellectual
T – Thinking
C – Challenged
Comment by Revelation — September 15, 2006 @ 4:25 pm
Truly sad, isn’t it?
September 15th, 2006 at 4:47 pmI tried to listen to Al Franken……It was the worst redio show I’ve ever listened to. He just gloated about one Republican indictment for a half-hour and then brought in “Stuart” (which is Al Franken in a stupid voice) to do the same thing. Very, very unfunny.
September 15th, 2006 at 5:03 pm[...] I’m hearing a lot of rumors about AA declaring bankruptcy. I can believe it. While they have an amazing group of talent and some serious content, I think they have been poorly managed from the start. I think lately the probelm is that nobody can get to hear them. I certainly can’t. Their terrestrial stations are very poor and don’t cover much of the country and they (in an incredibly stupid move..of course I can’t find my earlier post about it) signed an exclusive with XM and dropped off of Sirius. [...]
September 15th, 2006 at 5:25 pmI’ll bet my bottom dollar that Liberal radio and Air America will succeed!!! D’OH!!!
September 15th, 2006 at 5:42 pm“Your attempt at moral equivalency is totally wthout merit. Islam and Christianity are VASTLY different as regards violonce, killing, repression, slavery… You are wrong. I hope someday you will see that.”
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 15, 2006 @ 9:17 am
-Again, religion is not the problem; it’s the way the people interpret it that is the big problem. Christians of this country slaughtered Native Americans and stole their land. Christians of this country supported slavery and segregation. The KKK used religion to defend their actions. Christians of this country invaded a Muslim nation killing 100,000 of them.
September 15th, 2006 at 5:48 pm“FYI, many late term abortions occur in this country. if I get the time I’ll try and look up the stats. It is ironic that pro-baby killing supporters have the benefit of not having been aborted themselves and try to comfort themsleves and their sould with nice-sounding phrases like “Choice†(as if the baby is ever consulted) and rants like “Stay out of my body†(when there is a separate individual involved – different DNA and all from moment one).”
-Third trimester abortion is illegal in this country except if the life the mother is in jeopardy.
-Second trimester abortion is left up to individual states and I think (I have to look it up) a doctor must state that the fetus is not viable.
-If you’re against abortion don’t have one. No one is forcing anyone in this country to have an abortion.
“BTW, having a baby and aborting are both probably traumatic, I agree. But at least one of those options doesn’t involve murder.”
Comment by MKA+Atlanta — September 15, 2006 @ 9:27 am
-I think abortion after the first trimester is murder but it is just my opinion.
September 15th, 2006 at 6:11 pmI’ll bet my bottom dollar that Liberal radio and Air America will succeed!!!
Don’t know how much money it will take to get to the ‘bottom dollar’, but they ain’t the same thing. AAR had a bad or non-existant biz plan.
September 15th, 2006 at 6:21 pmRadio hosts like Ed S, and Miller, are successful on their own, w/o AAR and don’t need AAR. Their personal success is not beholden to AAR.
If memory serves, AAR was hastily put together to help Democrats defeat the re-election of Bush. Clearly, it did not work and I think the hatred displayed just turned a lot of folks off.
Words of wisdom from MKA:
– Actually, Junior did have a problem with elections. He was forced to hold relatively quick elections in Iraq by Muqtada al-Sadr (of all people) in exchange for the blessing and good behavior of al-Sadr.
- So you’re saying that this oil-based administration does not have any interest in the oil in Iraq. Wow! Point made – no disputing that. It does seem to defy explanation that a war for cheap oil would produce today’s current oil prices, except that among other things, this invasion was for control of oil. With control of the country with the second-largest oil supply on the planet, and their good friends, the Saudis, controlling the largest, it is a lot easier to manipulate the supply of oil (a la Enron).
- Liberals hate Bush – that’s a new one. Gee, what flavor of ice cream do we like, did Rush tell you that too? If it makes you feel more secure in your misguided trust in Junior that I hate him – then there is nothing I can do about that. All I can say is you have no idea who I hate or don’t hate – you do not know me nor, I suspect, any other liberal. In the future, allow me to tell you whom I hate or don’t hate and not the other way around.
-He terrorized his people and attacked his neighbors. Well, DUH! Liberals have been saying that for years, even while Don Rumsfeld was shaking his hand in Bagdad doing business with him. Not that it matters now, but where were you wingnuts while he was committing these atrocities. My guess is you couldn’t see past Reagan’s toes to see what was really going on? I will say this for Saddam, as evil as he was, there were points where Iraq had the highest standard of living in the Arab world. Before the invasion, Iraqis had schools, hospitals, sewage treatment, continuous electricity for more than a couple of hours a day, as well as palaces. The reason that there is few good reports coming from Iraq, I’m afraid, is because there are few good things happening in Iraq. Otherwise, the administration and their whores at WGOP-AM, ABC, FOX, MSGOP and ConNN be crowing over the fruited plain about it.
One more thing, there are people out there worse than Saddam, what is your plan for them? Are you guys gonna spend our treasue and send our brave men and women in harm’s way to take them out too? Do you really want to send our troops across the globe kicking over rocks instead of defending America?
- Contrary to popular bushlicker belief, Junior is not a great leader, either. It is obvious that he is not or ever will be among the greatest presidents in our history.
- I do remember in 2004, after a 3 point electoral victory, someone inanely strutting around the country warning everyone he had a MAN-DATE and that he had political capital to spend and he intends to spend it. I also remember this rhetoric being heaped on message boards and cable news programs and reich-wing radio. Nevertheless, I would tend to agree with you that Junior is not a dictator, but is the one being being dictated to by others who don’t seem to desire the limelight.
Did they vote against it after they voted for it? You guys seem to change views whenever the wind blows or a new poll comes out. It’s hard to keep track.
- Do you have any clue about the basic rules of congress, or are you just blowing more moronic talking points. OK. I will let this one go if you promise to stop rolling this one out whenever you are in a corner like that. I won’t even mention the shocking revelation that this is the most poll-driven administration in our history(oops). Again, please don’t use that one again or I will have to post the list of flip-flops committed by Junior.
September 15th, 2006 at 7:06 pm[...] … and Al Franken blames the rumor on conservatives, even though it was the lefty blog Think Progress that broke the news to begin with Despite reports the liberal talk network would file for bankruptcy protection by week’s end – that apparently isn’t happening. Franken tells listeners “we’re not in Chapter 11†and pokes at conservative talk hosts and websites for getting it wrong with quips like “who’s gloating now Bill O’Reilly?†We still believe it’s a tough economic situation at the libnet – and several staffers have been laid-off. [...]
September 15th, 2006 at 7:25 pmTruemac, I hope you are open enough to accept this response from a patriotic American citizen of this truly great nation, the USA.
I do not mind if if you want to hear opinions from “all sides”. Freedom of though, speech, and expression is what it’s all about in America with our great traditions of liberal democratic values.
Air America Radio for instance is airing opinions from different sides, just as does Rush “Oxy” Limbaugh or Bill “the Silly Schoolyard Bully” O’Reilly.
America is a big country, big enough for all. (”Does that not register with you?”)
September 15th, 2006 at 7:28 pmAir America just doesn’t work. The formula Is just plain old stale, and there Is no juicy stuff, the socalled entertaiment Is as stimulating as a Monica Lewinski cigar trick.
September 15th, 2006 at 7:41 pmI love the stereotypes of “libruls” here! The “conservative” cretins who post here about supposed libruls are hilarious. Everything is about librul “bleating” and about “anti-competetion” libruls, and welfare state libruls, blah, blah. You pathetic Bush losers, chumps and suckers couldn’t find your own asses with both hands, even if your sorry lives depended on it! You clowns should try joining the “reality-based” and get your heads out of the old Reagan ’80’s, not to mention your Republican rectums. It’s 2006, little boys, you boys and your silly ways of thinking are way past their expiration dates! You’ll see! The Reagan/Bush Era/Error of the last 26 years is coming to a close very soon! (Nothing lasts forever, including conservative, or liberal, eras. Reagan/Bush “Conservatism” is a dinosuar!) Enjoy!
September 15th, 2006 at 7:41 pmI won’t even mention the shocking revelation that this is the most poll-driven administration in our history(oops). Again, please don’t use that one again or I will have to post the list of flip-flops committed by Junior.
I really don’t know if Bush has flopped or fliped more than Mrs. Heinz, but the ‘poll-driven’ thingie is a bit ‘off.’
There is some guy, worked for Clinton, who kinda details how much Bubba based his admin on polling. And I think I have seen/heard many attacks this president for ignoring polls, i.e. public ‘thoughts.’ So I am not sure where you are coming from?
We all have to make choices, and the last two pres election cycles have been especially ‘bad’, as far as choices. Now it seems we have but two clans, the Bushes and the Clintons. That is sad, so sad.
September 15th, 2006 at 7:42 pmTruemac, I hope you are open enough to accept this response from a patriotic American citizen of this truly great nation, the USA.
Of course, I thought I made that clear.
I do not mind if if you want to hear opinions from “all sidesâ€. Freedom of though, speech, and expression is what it’s all about in America with our great traditions of liberal democratic values.
‘do not mind’ ? I would have thought you would want to hear thoughts, opinions from ‘all sides.’
Air America Radio for instance is airing opinions from different sides, just as does Rush “Oxy†Limbaugh or Bill “the Silly Schoolyard Bully†O’Reilly.
I have listened to Limbo, but not Bill. As someone who spent decades in the media, I can understand how and why Limbo has rating that dwarf AAR, Franken-Rhoads. Entertainment is a major factor. Political or social bias can go so far, but if the show must engage, must be entertaining.
As I said in a previous post, Franken puts me to sleep, and Rhoads just is ‘unlistenable.’ I do like Ed S and Miller.
America is a big country, big enough for all. (â€Does that not register with you?â€)
It certainly does, and I thought I had made that clear. I just don’t like the personal/political attacks that I have seen here. I don’t know why we cannot have a serious conversation without the vitriol?
September 15th, 2006 at 7:53 pm“Conservatism= free will, strong minds and backs”
Free will to be addicted to Oxy and boner pills (Rush Lameballs), strong minds to commit sexual harassment of female co-workers via phone sex (Bill O’Lielly), and strong backs (Tom Delay, Duke Cunningham and Jack Abramoff working out in prison, among many other Repuglicans, haha!).
You fake-conservative idiots are hilarious! Just like your “Dumbya” Bushleague!
September 15th, 2006 at 7:56 pmThe “conservative†cretins who post here about supposed libruls are hilarious.
You pathetic Bush losers, chumps and suckers couldn’t find your own asses with both hands, even if your sorry lives depended on it! You clowns should try joining the “reality-based†and get your heads out of the old Reagan ’80’s, not to mention your Republican rectums.
September 15th, 2006 at 8:02 pmYou post this and then wonder why I ask ‘why can’t we have a serious conversation?’
Hey KKK Atlanta, Dan Rather has been off the air for a while now, guess you hadn’t heard under your white sheet. It’s hilarious when you little boys harp on the same tired, old hate figures such as Dan Rather, Michael Moore, Barbara Streisand, Jane Fonda, etc. You pathtic losers are apparently in a state of arrested development in another century…it’s 2006, boys. Your clowns like Dubya have been running the show and doing a lousy job of it. Rather, Moore, and all your favorite hate figures have no power, it’s your blind leaders whom you blindly follow who are “leading” and running American democracy into the ground. It’s only a matter of time and American voters will fire all of your lousy, incompetent, idiotic Washington politicians like Rick Santorum, Dennis Hastert, etc., ad nauseum, and then there all the corrupt Republicans who are ending up in jail. I guess though that’s what Prezeedential pardons are for, right, like Tricky Dick Nixon or Scooter Libby. LMAO at you Repugs!
September 15th, 2006 at 8:07 pmRather, Moore, and all your favorite hate figures have no power,
Wow!, ITC, you really don’t ‘get it’ do you?
September 15th, 2006 at 8:21 pmRather and Moore (Babs, et al) have great power, the POWER to energize voters for Republican candidates.
Hey “True”Mac…if you need people like Babs Streisand and Michael Moore to get “energized”, you’re even worse off (if that’s possible) than one would have imagined! You boys make 3rd grade “arguments” at best, it’s just too easy commenting on your nonsense! You all must be mouth-breathing, knuckledragging dittoheads! Guess you better go rush off to Rush so he can tell you what you are supposed to “think” (sic). I think he may be back in the Dominican Republic again though for the weekend, with his boner pills and his underage male prostitutes. That’s Rush! Have Oxy and boner pills, will travel!
September 15th, 2006 at 8:33 pmIt’s plainly obvious that right wing regressives don’t listen to AAR or any progressive talk. Listen to Hannity for any period of time and you’ll find that it is a steady flow of Republican talking points; rape rooms, 300 buses, voted against the $87 billion before he voted for it, and the silver platter offer among many many others. AAR is like MSNBC constantly changing formats and personalities that have been hard to follow.
September 15th, 2006 at 8:36 pmHey “Trueâ€Mac…if you need people like Babs Streisand and Michael Moore to get “energizedâ€, you’re even worse off (if that’s possible) than one would have imagined! You boys make 3rd grade “argumentsâ€ITC
Where, when did I say I or anyone ‘needed’ them. What I said was they ‘fall into’, are used by Limbo, Hannity, et al, to build their base. It is just a fact, and you can attack it, deny it, make gross comments.
September 15th, 2006 at 9:01 pmI am simply trying to have a conversation and deal with reality. Why can’t you do that without the vitriol? More and more, it appears you are a Limbo wacko trying to make liberals look bad, mean, and distrubed. If you are not, deal with the facts, and the reality. Liberals are not sick idiots. Don’t put them in that closet.
Hey Mac, “conservative” wanna-be’s such as one finds here apparently are always talking about having a “serious conversation”, only after they have had their butts handed to them by intellectually superior “libruls”. Before then, it’s the Repugs such as the ones posted above here, who start out with the vitriol and bleating and whining about “librul bleating” and “whining” and “hysterics”. It’s no “wonder” at all that it’s impossible to have a “serious conversation” with GW Bush fake-conservatives. They have listened to too much Rush Lameballs and Ann “Fake-Femdom” Coulter and find it absolutely impossible to communicate without Rove/Gingrich/Luntz cliches and bumper sticker slogans. The GOP is in trouble. They can’t run a bathroom faucet, much less a huge country and complicated modern society like America in the 21st Century. The Republicans will lose– bigtime–and I will then think of some of the Tom Delay-loving turkeys posting here about little Air America so they can feel like bigger “men”, as if AAR has anything to do with much of anything, and I will laugh!
September 15th, 2006 at 9:17 pmHey Mac, “conservative†wanna-be’s such as one finds here apparently are always talking about having a “serious conversationâ€, only after they have had their butts handed to them by intellectually superior “librulsâ€.
Ok, good nite. I can see this will go no where, and you certainly have not even tried to post anything ‘intellectually superior.’ From what I can see, you have not handed anyone ‘their butt.’
September 15th, 2006 at 9:34 pmPerhaps tomorrow, you might decide to deal with an actual issue besides Limbo taking drugs for pain or penis?
Good night, Mac, was a pleasure meeting you and “conversating.”
September 15th, 2006 at 9:46 pmSo – did AirAmerica radio declare bankruptcy today or not?
September 15th, 2006 at 10:01 pmI’ve listened to AAR…
There is no progressive message there.. There’s no message at all…
It’s a bunch of conveniently contexed, semi-accurate personal assaults. Kinda like a bunch of know-it-all, arrogant teenagers pissed off at the adults..
There’s no there, there..
It’s pathetic..
September 16th, 2006 at 12:12 amTrueMac:
If you mean that this administration doesn’t burden itself trying to find out what Americans think about current issues – that seems to be the case. The polling I refer to involves finding the most effective way of selling their policies to same Americans – whether they would support them or not.
BTW, the Center for American Progress Action Fund compiled a list of some of Bush’s flip-flops back in 2004. If you are interested, just do a search on “President Bush: Flip-Flopper-In-Chief”
I agree with you about our choices, both in the recent past and in the near future – it could depress a hyena.
September 16th, 2006 at 1:23 amYou right-wings diatribes seem to
September 16th, 2006 at 3:40 amYou right-wing diatribes seem to have one thing in common: You’re all a bunch a cowards. Cowards for not standing behind the constitution. You all sit there and say, ‘please Mr. President, save me from the awful bad evil men bahh bahh bahh’. ‘Do whatever you need to do in order to save us. blah blah blah.’ You’re just like the draft-dodging Cheney and Bush – two of the biggest cowards of them all. A real man (or woman) stands up and says, ‘yes, I stand behind the constitution good or bad, at war or at peace’, and I accept the consequences. All this stuff is about this – are you willing to stand up and support the basic foundation this country stands for? – clearly you are not ready for that. Maybe you should find another country to live in, because the real America doesn’t seem to share your values.
September 16th, 2006 at 3:49 amYou right-wing diatribes seem to have one thing in common: You’re all a bunch a cowards. Cowards for not standing behind the constitution. You all sit there and say, ‘please Mr. President, save me from the awful bad evil men bahh bahh bahh’. ‘Do whatever you need to do in order to save us. blah blah blah.’ You’re just like the draft-dodging Cheney and Bush – two of the biggest cowards of them all. A real man (or woman) stands up and says, ‘yes, I stand behind the constitution good or bad, at war or at peace’, and I accept the consequences. All this stuff is about this – are you willing to stand up and support the basic foundation this country stands for? – clearly you are not ready for that. Maybe you should find another country to live in, because the real America doesn’t seem to share your values.
September 16th, 2006 at 3:55 amThe demise of the Air America gatekeepers/truthburiers will be no great loss…
AIR AMERICA IS PART OF THE PROBLEM, NOT THE SOLUTION!
NOT ONCE HAVE THEY EVER QUESTIONED BUSH’S INCRIMINATING 9/11 WITNESS STATEMENTS!!!!!!!
NOT ONCE HAVE THEY POINTED OUT THAT THERE IS NO REASON TO BLAME OSAMA BIN LADEN FOR 9/11
NOT ONCE HAVE THEY POINTED OUT THAT THE AIRCRAFT IN THE GOVERNMENT’S 9/11 PENTAGON VIDEO IS TOO SMALL TO BE A 757 AND THUS COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE FLIGHT 77, CONTRARY TO GOVERNMENT CLAIMS
NOT ONCE HAVE THEY POINTED OUT THAT QUEEN OF COLLUSION NANCY PELOSI HAS NEVER QUESTIONED BUSH’S INCRIMINATING 9/11 WITNESS STATEMENTS!
September 16th, 2006 at 6:02 amLimbaugh and Savage are not Americans if they segregate everyone and they haven’t even learned anything about this democracy. But the prefix (de) means to take away or demote and is rooted in latin. De of anything is to take away from….. So if the true meaning of democracy may be to take the voice away from the people meaning ‘We The People’. I don’t listen to mainstream media anymore since it is pro slanted for a certain audience or race of globalists. Because it certainly isn’t celtic anymore, it just seems to be something else of a sinnister plan to take over the whole government and media which pretty much scares the heck out of me…How did this country go from an Anti-Federalist to a state of Zionism?? It certainly is a mystery to me! Names like Goldberg and Stern (and other names like these) aren’t they on the agenda to take old U.S.A. apart and drag America through the dirt with their filth. Stern is just so nasty that you couldn’t pay me a million dollars to hear his state of vulgarity…..Is it so vogue to want to hear other people’s lickings? No wonder America is going to the toilet because it must look like to outsiders that we are the modern day Mystery Babylon or Harlots? I think we got this way because of the thoughts of a group of people who probably still worship the golden calf? Isn’t there a golden calf in front of WALL STREET? People wake up and see who controls this U.S. of A. Jefferson said that we would end up this way but they all laughed at him but look who’s having the last laugh now…..
September 16th, 2006 at 6:18 amIf you mean that this administration doesn’t burden itself trying to find out what Americans think about current issues – that seems to be the case.
I agree with you about our choices, both in the recent past and in the near future – it could depress a hyena.
Comment by Algori — September 16, 2006 @ 1:23 am
Yes, exactly, Algori on both counts!
September 16th, 2006 at 7:37 amHey, conspiracy nuts. Wake up. We are not the enemy! All you do is complain how inept and screwed up this administration is. How the hell could they plan a super comlex cover-up like that. Were the hell are all the people who died on the planes?? Oh by the way, you CAN make a cell phone call from a plane if flight, they just ask you not to because it may cuace problems w/ the nav systems.
Get your head out of your…er the sand
God Bless America!!
p.s. Ciao to AA…Tee Hee!!
September 16th, 2006 at 11:22 pmWOW, that was wierd. I have never read such elitist tripe as what I read today from the enraged libs. ” Truck drivers and grandmas are ignorant, so we should convert them”, “Progressives are so much smarter and informed because we get our information from the blogs”, “Rethugs are about fear and hate, so If we dont lill those SOBs in 2006, life as we know it is over”
Do you people actually pay attention to what you say?
Please please please……all you uber intelligent liberals, please continue to voice your opinions on any media platform you can find.
The GOP really appreciates the support.
4 more years kitten!
September 16th, 2006 at 11:24 pm“I’m un-informed, I’m not funny, and, dog-gonnit, people don’t like me!”
Sincerely,
Stuart Smally
September 16th, 2006 at 11:24 pmwhattayaknow….all the conservative posts are gone.
Theres some first amendment for ya libs
September 17th, 2006 at 12:47 amAir America was expected to go tits up from the get go. Al Franken sucks and so do the rest of those blowhards.
and Len…
Hah. It’s called CNN (Commie News Network) and you’ve all had it for decades.
September 17th, 2006 at 2:18 am“Conservative” cretins abound here. Oh well, cretins will be cretins. GW Bush morons will be morons. It’s a free country, still, barely. Go ahead, dittohead chuckleheads…be dumb. It’s your “choice”. You are personally responsible though for your intellectual cowardice and lack of self-discipliine regarding your illiteracy. Believe what you want to believe, be only “faith-based”. Nonetheless, reality will bite you in the ass. Nothing lasts forever, including the perverted, corrupted version of “conservatism” that has taken over the corrupt Republican Party of Newt Gingrich, Tom Delay, Karl Rove and Dubya Bush. It’s a dysfunctional and doomed ideology. May it croak sooner than later. American democracy, including the fate of the great American “middle-class”, are at stake.
September 17th, 2006 at 4:35 amAir America radio doesn’t work and can’t get listeners because they do not allow debate, the spew nothing but hatred as the left has no answers to to today’s problems (let alone militant Islam), and any left winger that wants to hear his/her theories and opinions backed up can just listen to the news, watch the news or read The New York Times, The LA Times, The Washington Post or The Boston Globe. For any of you that theorize that the Bush Administration is backing up talk radio with money should explian what NPR is. Right Wing radio is not tax-payer funded democratic talking points and tree hugging.
The democrats have no answers and never do. You can’t explain to us how you can make things better so you slander everyone on the right that you can, even several people on your own side. All you idiots voted for John Kerry who said “You have to vote me into office before I tell you my plan.” If he was for America and he had a plan worth a damn he could have passed bills in Congress to make America better. Obviously his political aspirations beat out the need for a political platform. You talk about radio going the way of the dodo bird. The Defeatocrats are going the way of the dodo bird because the average Democrat’s views have been hijacked by the far left, blame America for 9/11 crowd. I do not understand how the same people that think Bush had a hand in 9/11 won’t call terrorists by name. You are afraid of dealing with Islamic terrorists but you’re more than happy to whine about the current administration.
September 17th, 2006 at 8:25 amAir Head America – Put a fork in it – it’s done!
September 17th, 2006 at 10:37 amWho cares? Bunch of losers losing yet again. Al Franken? Hahaha! What a bunch of zeros.
September 17th, 2006 at 9:03 pmIs Al going to put his official reporters antenna helmut on E-Bay???
I bid 5 cents.
September 18th, 2006 at 12:14 am[...] Think Progress: AAR Bankruptcy The Radio Equalizer Air America: The End? Photoshop by Pete @ Bald Mountain Summit Update: Think Progress Retracts [...]
September 18th, 2006 at 4:50 amRussia and Terror…
One must give the Soviets their due. No other country is capable as are the Soviets of manipulating public opinion in the West. Only a year ago, Moscow was condemned for supporting terrorism. It was said to be involved in a terrorist attack against the Pope. Terrorists were statedly being trained under Soviet sponsorship.
And, as if by magic, this murky Soviet image has now undergone a complete change. The Soviets have now become enemies of terror. With the help of some Americans who believe in this extraordinary transformation, Moscow now holds conferences and participates in talks on preventing terrorism.
NATALIE GRANT WRAGA, 1990
September 18th, 2006 at 6:10 amRussia and Terror…
One must give the Soviets their due. No other country is capable as are the Soviets of manipulating public opinion in the West. Only a year ago, Moscow was condemned for supporting terrorism. It was said to be involved in a terrorist attack against the Pope. Terrorists were statedly being trained under Soviet sponsorship.
And, as if by magic, this murky Soviet image has now undergone a complete change. The Soviets have now become enemies of terror. With the help of some Americans who believe in this extraordinary transformation, Moscow now holds conferences and participates in talks on preventing terrorism.
NATALIE GRANT WRAGA, 1990
September 18th, 2006 at 6:10 am‘Hate America’ Radio is finally on its last legs. Just a little bit longer and we will finally be rid of this abomination forever. All they do is berate, harangue and throw personal insults at people that don’t agree with their twisted, self hating view just like the rest of the Democratic Progressive Fascists (more commonly known as Democrats) in office. People wake up. They are the real enemy! They are the ones that instituted our country’s first thought crime. They are the one’s that want us all to be good little robots and take what ever measly crumbs they offer. Remember they think ’some animals are more equal than others’!
September 18th, 2006 at 9:00 amHere we are at the beginning of World War III… and there are still a few Americans who believe that Air America’s claptrap political antics are relevant and worth saving… I’m glad they are in the minority..
September 18th, 2006 at 11:53 amBoy… What a beating The MoonBats took
on this topic… they can defend their stand
without group think help… this was alot of Fun !!
Thanks Bats & Keep Up The Good Work…
September 18th, 2006 at 1:51 pmNovember Coming Soon… It Is All Carl Rove’s fault…
Now Discuss… Ha Ha He He Ha Ha
While I don’t wish Air America and the “progressives” (whatever “progressives” means) any ill will,… nor would I like to see real politcal debate stiffled in any way on the air waves,… I think the world of talk radio would be much better off without the likes of Randi Rhodes and Rush Limbaugh. We could use more intelligent discussion than they provide. More facts,…less rant, baseless accusations and inuendo. They contribute nothing to meaningful intelligent dialogue. Both just continue to attembt to polarize Americans for their own financial gain, and we don’t really need any more of that right now.
September 18th, 2006 at 2:53 pm‘about time! wake up tree-huggers and smell your power plant!
September 18th, 2006 at 3:28 pmNo big surprise here. The Liberal message is devoid of content.
September 18th, 2006 at 5:39 pmThe result was predictable.
RE: POST # 664
“You right-wing diatribes seem to have one thing in common: You’re all a bunch a cowards. Cowards for not standing behind the constitution..l. A real man (or woman) stands up and says, ‘yes, I stand behind the constitution good or bad, at war or at peace’,”
Just like YOU good folks on the Left stand up for the 2nd Amendment? Or is it a case of only backing SELECTED parts of the Constitution…evidencing a spotty, hollow, and truly insincere attempt on your parts to sho your so-called patriotism.
“All this stuff is about this – are you willing to stand up and support the basic foundation this country stands for? – clearly you are not ready for that. Maybe you should find another country to live in, because the real America doesn’t seem to share your values.”
Again, I question, and challenge, the self-serving, situationally ethical, sunshine patriotism of those on the Left who want to play at the heroism game only so long as it gives them a bloody shirt to wave at the photo op. Never you damn-well mind the real sacrifices made by those who were once wearing the shirt waved at the latest “hate America” rally.
The hypocrisy of this post is so glaringly blatant, and I, as a veteran, would bet the laces in my Corcorans that the maker of that post is too round-shouldered and spindly physically, and vapid spiritually, to trot themselves down to a recruiting office and walk it like they rant it. Otherwise, this person is offered the same kind invitation to depart the country as has been offered. So either stand up and contribute, or sit down, shut the eff up, and get out of the way of those looking to serve with unquestionable honor.
September 18th, 2006 at 7:04 pmAll Americans should remember William T. Lee’s statement regarding the balance of power in his 1997 book, “The ABM Treaty Charade: A Study in Elite Illusion and Delusion.†According to Lee, “the Russians inherited large stocks of reserve (refire) missiles and warheads [from the USSR] that were not accountable under the SALT II Treaty. The U.S. does not know either the size or the locations of these stocks. CIA./DIA covered up the discrepancies in missile stocks in the Soviet START II declarations, as well as in all types of weapons covered by the CFE [Conventional Forces in Europe]. Neither agency has yet admitted that it underestimated [Russian] nuclear weapon production and storage by 50 to 100 percent, or more.†In other words, American intelligence agencies have consistently understated Russia’s nuclear and conventional strength and have insistently covered up these underestimations in subsequent years. Not only did Gorbachev and Yeltsin announce phony arms reductions that the CIA failed to detect, the Americans were “so mired in self deception†they failed to see Russia’s successful construction of a national missile defense system.
© 2005 Jeffrey R. Nyquist
September 18th, 2006 at 10:45 pmToo much wild conspiracy for me!
September 19th, 2006 at 10:33 amHow bout all AM crap should dissapear. no one listens to that garbage anyhow, least of which Air America. You’re all a bunch of monkeys
September 19th, 2006 at 11:59 amSo why is AA filing for bankruptcy? I thought liberals felt everyone should pay their fair share of taxes. Especially the rich. “Filing for …” is to have debts erased and taxes avoided. Instead they write it off and pass it to the working class. How “progressive”. No, it’s typically liberal. Soros and Kennedy both hide their money overseas to avoid taxes.
Hypocrites. Pay your debts and pay your taxes. And fool the liberal putzes into buying “Premium” memberships.
September 20th, 2006 at 1:27 amThis website gives me the best laughs. Make sure you add you thoughts to the other topics also. This AAR (Anti-American Radio) is the topic that brought me here. But I am here to stay.
September 20th, 2006 at 9:19 amLooks like the lib’s quit blogging after taking a flogging on these topics.
This just goes on to prove the consevetives points. They (the lefties) can’t honestly debate a topic and win. Their arguments don’t hold water.
They are really p.o’d we found this site. They’ve been wallowing in their “Bush hate” bubble and talking amoungst themselves for so long, it’s actually funny.
I actually watch Bill Mahr’s HBO show and again, they load up w/ a leftie audience, leftie panelist and sometimes bring in a righite , talk over and insult him/her. It’s pretty painful to watch but I like hearing all sides. Something the AA crowd distains.
Good job folks and let’s check out what other falsehoods they are talking about on this site..:)
The parties over, the fat lady sang and I’m going to light up a stogie!
September 20th, 2006 at 7:42 pmThis has been fun!
[...] I’ve been wondering lately what’s going to happen with radio. I drive a lot these days, and seem to have few options other than Top 40 stations, Jack/Doug/etc. – those DJ-free stations that are supposed to make you feel like you are listening to a cool friend’s iPod (NOT) – and yelling heads like Tom Leykis. Air America is filing for bankruptcy, and Rush Limbaugh gives me palpitations. I fall asleep when I’m not rolling my eyes – neither of which is a smart option for me or the other drivers in the area. [...]
September 21st, 2006 at 11:16 amYou know what? Fukk Amerika and every Amerikan in it. You are the true evil empire and the demise of AAR only shows that as a whole Amerikans support the empire and despise all who oppose it. Not that AAR can truly be considered an opponent of the Bush-Cheney regime, with Randi (Good lord, that’s a tacky name!) Rhodes and Al Franken slobbering all over themselves to see who is more sycophantic in supporting that bunch of thieving, raping, cluster-bombing, mine-deploying, white phosphorus-throwing, murdering barely literate rednecks that you like to call “the troops.” I hope the Iraqi freedom fighters kill them all and that after they die, they burn in hell, along with every gringo who has a “Support the Troops” sticker in thei SUV or has ever had a kind thought towards said bunch of criminals.
September 23rd, 2006 at 11:04 pmGood riddance to Air America, Al Franken and the other stupid ass liberals. From a conservative black male.
September 25th, 2006 at 9:01 amSo…. They didn’t declare bankruptcy, did they? Retraction??
September 27th, 2006 at 12:28 pmNice job Abeiteh,
You’ve pretty well sumed up the whole pogressive movement in one hate filled rant.
Where ever you’re from, Please go back there, NOW. Either that, or you’ll have a talk show on AA or a weekly column in the NY Times ya sick bastard!
September 27th, 2006 at 10:23 pmPublicists to hype shows that put people to sleep….$102,000
Bribing liberal congressman to push “fairness” doctrines in order to get their boring shows on the air in spite of a lack of audience….$35,000
Salary for account reps begging for advertisers….$150,000
Air America going bankrupt…Priceless.
September 27th, 2006 at 11:24 pmAA’s demise is a good sign that the real America is moving in the “right” direction….listen to Rush for cutting edge and the future – progressivism is so 1930s.
September 29th, 2006 at 1:42 pmHey and what about that fishy transfer of $400,000+ from the Gloria Wise Boys and Girls Club in the Bronx to Air America? I thought libs were supposed to steal from the rich to give to the poor….not from programs that are for the poor. I wonder how that investigation turned out…read all about it at washtimes.com/op-ed/20050728-081354-1414r.htm
September 29th, 2006 at 3:03 pmI truly hope AA does not go bankrupt and cease operation. I think it is of greater benefit to have it continue to twist in the wind, dying a slow death from lack of interest.
Long live AA!
September 29th, 2006 at 4:44 pmof course it went off the air.
October 6th, 2006 at 5:46 pmA show with lots of looney lefties whether callers or hosts. How on earth do you think normal people could listen to a bunch of lies and hatred.
Do you think any one wanted to really put money in the way of adverts with a bunch of radicals telling lies and always I mean yes always bush bash, bash bush, bush bash.
See it gets boring for most of us normal in the middle of the road folk.
There is a difference between journalism and talk radio. NPR and Pacifica don’t do 3 hours rants aimed at destroying the character of the other side. Unfortunately this is a successful technique that has been employed by the far right. I consider their style political sports casting, not journalism or even talk. I listen to Air America from time to time and I like to hear the democrats throw the same mud back to the conservatives, but it is the same style and many on the left don’t react to that form of “talk”. I would be sorry to see it go because it fills a market. People need to be able to hear what the opposite of conservative talk sounds like or they may begin to think that NPR is the far left when in reality NPR is as close to center as I can find on the dial.
October 7th, 2006 at 5:57 pmNPR is close to center? You are the stipidest person on the planet.
October 12th, 2006 at 2:01 pmWell, Air America just filed chapter 11. Chapter 13 is not very far away. I’m glad to see Air America fade away into the darkness. Their shows and hosts sucked really bad and only a moron could stand to listen to them.
October 13th, 2006 at 11:03 amAir America files for Chapter 11 bankrupcy!
Gloating is such fun!
Losers.
Just wait until November!
October 13th, 2006 at 11:06 amMy advice to Air America while it’s restructuring:
October 13th, 2006 at 11:12 amIf you tell the same truth everyday, you’ll get boring.
Do what conservatives do: Tell diffrerent lies and spin the truth day in day out.
By the way, here’s some boring truth:
Bush and his supporters should be the ones filing for bankruptcy bacause their WMD count except US/Iraqi casualties never got above 0.
Bush and Blair now top Saddam and bin Ladin after yesterday’s news (655000 Iraqis have died since the war began).
My advice to AA while it’s retructuriing:
October 13th, 2006 at 11:16 amStop telling the truth because it’s getting boring.
Do what conservatives do: Spin the truth and tell different lies every hour.
Air America is terrible, and all of you know it deep down. How can you stand to wake up in the morning and listen to all the conspiracy theories and negativity? The Left…what a joke…and I am more middle of the road than anything. If Dems think that Hillary is a good choice for the nomination for 2008, they’re even worse off than I thought.
October 13th, 2006 at 12:12 pmi would work for them for free to keep the truth going. Tell me where to apply.
October 13th, 2006 at 12:15 pmFace it…no one wants to listen to “progressive” talk radio. Its a depressing medium. Full of complaining with no point and no solutions to real problems. I have tried listening but I can’t take it for very long. Its even worse than sports talk radio.
October 13th, 2006 at 12:23 pmI stopped listening to Air America because of the uncontrollable ranting of Jeanine Garofalo and Mike Malloy. They exemplified the worst characteristics of the closed-minded extreme left wing. They are little more than a couple of loudmouth terrorist apologists. Where is the sane left? You know, the one that represents the majority of America?
October 13th, 2006 at 12:26 pmI love this. This is the story that brought me to this site from Drudge. I am going to run this in these losers faces as long at this site is up.
I have to go back and look for specific people to laugh at.
Bye Bye Al – more to come in November.
October 13th, 2006 at 1:16 pmNot a surprise, when you have to pay radio stations to carry your show, well… it’s a no brainer, your’e not going to make it!!! Al Frankenstien is a no talent a** clown.
October 13th, 2006 at 1:40 pmOh my….. Such hate coming from the righties… No surprises there…. How do you get pleasure from someone elses pain? You know this will hurt the right wingers, not the progressives so keep on spewing your hate. Don’t forget, jesus is watching everything you type.
October 13th, 2006 at 1:53 pmOh my…. Such ugly hate coming from the CONservatives again… Do you feel better now???
October 13th, 2006 at 1:55 pmAmerica has been hijacked, and it’s not by any terrorist organization. Arguably, the conservative movement now poses a more serious threat to our long-term security and prosperity than any fedayeen warrior.
Ronald Reagan’s anti-government rhetoric started the conservative revolution, and it has become right-wing gospel. Their contempt and disdain for our great institution of American government have sown seeds of hate.
Is it any wonder that Timothy McVeigh, Osama bin Laden and extremists across the globe have joined their choir? Perhaps the Berlin Wall has fallen, but so too have the World Trade Centers.
Words matter, both spoken and written. Dialogue and discourse are, after all, the hallmarks of our democracy. However, when rancor and rhetoric prevail, our esteemed institutions become threatened.
For far too long conservatives have unilaterally dominated the radio airwaves. I have listened attentively and critically. I, like many in Arizona and America, do not subscribe to their views. A view unopposed ipso facto is perceived as truth. More importantly, unopposed views that promote social, political and economic injustices are direct threats to our freedom, liberty and prosperity. Thus the need for liberal talk radio.
Liberal talk radio serves as a platform to deconstruct the myths propagated by the right. Many in the conservative movement hide behind the cross and cloak themselves in the flag. Yet they are perhaps the most un-Christian and un-patriotic group we have ever seen. As a Christian myself, I can’t imagine Jesus Christ telling someone born into welfare that he must pull himself up by his bootstraps and that the path to salvation is through tax cuts. Yet this social Darwinism and free-market fanaticism pervades the conservative agenda.
Conservative ideology seeks to undermine the values and principles upon which this country was founded. The opening of the Constitution reads, “We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union,” but when seen through the lens of a conservative reads, “I the individual, in order to form a more perfect Me.” It is this rugged individualism and callousness toward our fellow brothers and sisters that pervades conservative radio and ideology.
Having run for governor of Arizona in the 2002 Democratic primary, I had the fortune to meet individuals from all corners of this great state. Amidst the vast cultural, racial and socioeconomic spectrum one theme rang true: that the majority of Arizonans believed we are team and that we are in this together. Many were willing to sacrifice selfish personal aggrandizement for the collective good of the whole. This, I believe, is the fundamental difference between conservative and liberal ideologies. Liberals are individuals within the framework of “We the Peopleâ€. Conservatives are a group within the framework of “I, myselfâ€.
Such being the case, the need for a liberal venue to promote these ideas became a paramount endeavor. My program, The Mike Newcomb Show, which airs from 5 to 7 a.m. (MST), Monday through Friday on KPHX-AM (1480), has done just that. The response has been overwhelming. Countless e-mails and calls have been received echoing people’s desire and thirst for an alternative point of view.
The political winds are shifting in America. Liberals and progressives now have a voice that must not remain silent. As Martin Luther King Jr. once said, “It is not the words of my enemies that I fear; it is the silence of my friendsâ€. That’s why we need a liberal voice!
October 13th, 2006 at 2:00 pm[...] As gleefully promised four weeks ago, Air America finally declared bankruptsy today. But don’t worry because Progressive Radio Remains Strong even though nobody is listening. [...]
October 13th, 2006 at 2:00 pmAmerica has been hijacked, and it’s not by any terrorist organization. Arguably, the conservative movement now poses a more serious threat to our long-term security and prosperity than any fedayeen warrior.
Ronald Reagan’s anti-government rhetoric started the conservative revolution, and it has become right-wing gospel. Their contempt and disdain for our great institution of American government have sown seeds of hate.
Is it any wonder that Timothy McVeigh, Osama bin Laden and extremists across the globe have joined their choir? Perhaps the Berlin Wall has fallen, but so too have the World Trade Centers.
Words matter, both spoken and written. Dialogue and discourse are, after all, the hallmarks of our democracy. However, when rancor and rhetoric prevail, our esteemed institutions become threatened.
For far too long conservatives have unilaterally dominated the radio airwaves. I have listened attentively and critically. I, like many in Arizona and America, do not subscribe to their views. A view unopposed ipso facto is perceived as truth. More importantly, unopposed views that promote social, political and economic injustices are direct threats to our freedom, liberty and prosperity. Thus the need for liberal talk radio.
Liberal talk radio serves as a platform to deconstruct the myths propagated by the right. Many in the conservative movement hide behind the cross and cloak themselves in the flag. Yet they are perhaps the most un-Christian and un-patriotic group we have ever seen. As a Christian myself, I can’t imagine Jesus Christ telling someone born into welfare that he must pull himself up by his bootstraps and that the path to salvation is through tax cuts. Yet this social Darwinism and free-market fanaticism pervades the conservative agenda.
Conservative ideology seeks to undermine the values and principles upon which this country was founded. The opening of the Constitution reads, “We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union,” but when seen through the lens of a conservative reads, “I the individual, in order to form a more perfect Me.” It is this rugged individualism and callousness toward our fellow brothers and sisters that pervades conservative radio and ideology.
Having run for governor of Arizona in the 2002 Democratic primary, I had the fortune to meet individuals from all corners of this great state. Amidst the vast cultural, racial and socioeconomic spectrum one theme rang true: that the majority of Arizonans believed we are team and that we are in this together. Many were willing to sacrifice selfish personal aggrandizement for the collective good of the whole. This, I believe, is the fundamental difference between conservative and liberal ideologies. Liberals are individuals within the framework of “We the Peopleâ€. Conservatives are a group within the framework of “I, myselfâ€.
Such being the case, the need for a liberal venue to promote these ideas became a paramount endeavor. My program, The Mike Newcomb Show, which airs from 5 to 7 a.m. (MST), Monday through Friday on KPHX-AM (1480), has done just that. The response has been overwhelming. Countless e-mails and calls have been received echoing people’s desire and thirst for an alternative point of view.
The political winds are shifting in America. Liberals and progressives now have a voice that must not remain silent. As Martin Luther King Jr. once said, “It is not the words of my enemies that I fear; it is the silence of my friendsâ€. That’s why we need a liberal voice!
October 13th, 2006 at 2:01 pmPerhaps Hugo Chavez can help.
October 13th, 2006 at 2:03 pmBankrupt..liberal Radio…
October 13th, 2006 at 2:46 pmBankrupt
October 13th, 2006 at 2:46 pmWho listens to the most boring program on radio, or TV Air America.
October 13th, 2006 at 3:50 pmAnd who cares if they fold.
Air America is one super bore. Uninteresting, and just boring.
Maybe Franken should watch old Firing Line program to learn how to make a show interesting.
Or for that matter the old Open Mind shows.
It is sad the extreme left on Air America alienated real Democrats like me. The rantings of the hosts made me want to listen to Rush and that is painful. When will the extreme left learn from their mistakes. Randi is neurotic and turns listeners off. RIP
October 13th, 2006 at 4:20 pmI am a fiscal conservative and social liberal.
middle of the road if you will.
I tried to listen to air america(mainly randy roads(sp?) show, thats the time I drive home from work).
Why dont they ever talk about how/why libralism is good for society. And there are some, like perserve the environment, saving energy, no discrimination against gays(since its obvious to anyone most gay people are so due to biology), etc
instead all I hear is bush bashing and conspiracy theories of how the GOP is turning the world into a nazi state. One time they even had a 9-11 is done by the government retard on.
I cant listen to air america for more than 30min w/o getting disgusted.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:36 pmOh another thing.
It would help if the host of air america can say HOW THE LIBERALS would do a better job than the GOP(instead of just bashing them).
How would you protect the USA? (even tho the far left mostly deny a terrorist threat… most think its make up by Bush to start a war LOL)
How can you ensure good economic growth if you want to raise taxes? (so we dont see no growth and double digit unemployment like in france)
etc etc
October 13th, 2006 at 4:46 pmI will miss Stephanie Miller terribly if her show goes off. Hopefully, if AA does bite the big one, business insiders will see the potential and market INDIVIDUAL AA off shoots to keep them on the air.
October 13th, 2006 at 4:58 pmAs a moderate, I’m sick of the yammering of both the far left and the far right. If anyone hasn’t noticed, the two extremes are quite similar — dogmatic, certain of the rightnesss of their beliefs to the exclusion of all others, and intolerant. The left has co-opted the word “tolerance” but tolerance means that you respect the beliefs of others. The left is not a bit tolerant of any view but its own regardless of the topic.
In America, which is still nominally Capitalist, Air America failed. If people wanted to listen, it wouldn’t have failed. Period. The few times I listened, all I heard was how the current Administration sucks. Over and over again. In fact, how everything sucks. I’ve never seen such a bunch of gloom and doomers. Air America is depressing, and since the only preaching they do is to the choir, one can only listen to the same thing day in and day out for so long without risking severe depression.
The Republicans have continued to shoot at themselves at every opportunity, sometimes scoring direct hits. Despite that, the Democrats offer no alternative other than “we’re not Republicans.” For the Democrats, hating George Bush and making sure everyone knows it, every minute of every day, has blinding them to the reality that George isn’t running again. If they win control of the House, Senate, or Presidency, they will have to have a platform on Iraq, on Iran, on North Korea, on terrorism, and on everything else the post-9/11 world has to throw at us. It is convenient for the Democrats to blame everything on Bush, though most of the problems that landed on his desk were ones he didn’t want. For example, in a recent poll, I saw that 60% of Americans don’t think Bush has a plan for Iraq. Worse news, for the Democrats, is that 70% of Americans don’t think the Democrats do either.
Democrats were stunned by the loss of Kerry and Edwards in the last election, when in fact it became apparent that hating George Bush was not a winning theme. Kerry and Edwards were bad enough on their own, what with Edwards getting his money by suing doctors and keeping most of the proceeds, and with Kerry’s war record problems. Not to mention neither showed up for work in the Senate very often, and when they bothered to vote, they voted to the left of Teddy Kennedy. I recall watching the entire Democratic Convention and hearing nothing but “Band of Brothers” the whole week. It was abundantly clear, if you paid attention, that Kerry didn’t have much to show for his two decades in the Senate. Obama was about the only bright spot in the whole dismal week. Given that Bush was unpopular and is not at all articulate, and did fairly poorly in the debates, why could Kerry/Edwards not win?
I believe that many people found the personal attacks on the President repugnant. When you took Kerry and Edwards and the baggage they had, and added in the rantings of people like Howard Dean, Al Franken, Michael Moore, and, sadly, Teresa Heinz-Kerry, you did not have a broad appeal. Thus Bush won the popular vote by almost 4.5 million votes. Even Nader couldn’t be accused of derailing the Democratic campaign this time around. Terrorism wasn’t just a scare tactic on the part of the Republicans — it is a real issue and people care about it. To win, the Democrats will have to field a candidate that plays some other position besides left field (excuse the baseball analogy), avoids needless ranting about red-staters with no teeth and no shoes (a la Howard Dean), and has some actual ideas to run on besides hating Bush. They are showing few signs of doing so yet. The left’s biggest victory to date has been the defeat of Democrat Joe Lieberman by a rich man who offers nothing but a “cut and run” plan for Iraq. If things continue on as they are, Lieberman appears likely to win. He’s a good man, and a good Senator and has done much for Connecticut. Many Democrats and most Republicans will vote for him. If he wins, the only effect of this far-left effort will have been to push Lieberman further to the right.
Finally, I believe some commenters from the right who have posted here have it right. Liberals do not do well with logic. The left traditionally “feels” and the right “thinks” (of course there are many exceptions). I have attempted to have logical discussions with lefties and the only result has been that they get angry and further demonstrate their intolerance. Many of the furthest left actually refuse to associate with Republicans, which doesn’t exactly change my mind on how tolerant liberals are. When my liberal friends raged in 2000 about the stolen Bush election, I asked them what was driving their anger. They said it was principle — pure principle. I asked them how they could possibly think that the popular vote had any meaning, especially after the news media declared victory for Gore at 7 PM Eastern Time, before even the polls in much of Florida were closed. I mentioned that it didn’t matter if 3,000 people in Palm Beach County voted for Pat Buchanan but didn’t intend to — what matters in an election is the vote you cast, not the vote you intended to cast and whined about afterward, especially with a ballot designed by a Democrat and approved by a Democratic election board. A year or two before, Palm Beach County asked the voters to approve money to buy new voting machines to replace their current machines, a ballot initiative which was promptly rejected by the good citizens of the county. And despite failed appeal after failed appeal in the Florida courts (most rejected by Democratic judges), in the end, Gore lost the state. I even had some people say that anyone getting less than 50% of the popular vote shouldn’t be President, at which point I reminded them that Clinton got 43% in his first election, which true to pattern, they were unaware of. This past election, I pointed out to these same people that since New Hampshire had gone for Kerry (it went Bush in 2000), a 100,000 vote swing (or so) in Ohio would have given Kerry the Presidency with a popular vote deficit of nearly 4.5 million votes. I asked them if their principles from 2000 still applied. Of course there was really no reply to that. The looks on their faces were priceless.
I also tried some logic on my liberal friends with regard to the Swift Boat Veterans who helped Kerry lose. I started out by asking if them if they actually knew any military people, and if they knew any, if they actually believed that hundreds of them would lie about Kerry just to support Bush. Military folks, if you liberals know any, are not inclined that way. It isn’t in their natures, especially given Bush wasn’t exactly a war hero. So they cast aspersions on Kerry’s war record (and remember they didn’t start their anti-Kerry fight until after the aforementioned Democratic convention when Kerry himself brought up his war record over and over and over).
Logically, doesn’t it seem odd that Kerry’s Cambodia experiences were “seared into his memory” even though he was never there, and that he said he was in Cambodia fighting Nixon’s illegal war, even though Nixon wasn’t President? Johnson was the President the whole time Kerry was in SE Asia, so if Kerry was fighting anyone’s illegal war, it was Lyndon Johnson’s. I also asked people why they thought that in John Kerry’s own diary, the entry written nine days AFTER the action that led to his first Purple Heart stated that he and his men were cocky, as only young soldiers who have not yet been shot at can be. Did anyone else think it odd that Kerry had movie cameras with him, and even though he was a Swiftie, there were all these movies of him in Army uniform (he was in the Navy) strolling about in the jungle with a machine gun? By way of response, none of the people I was having this discussion with saw anything odd about any of this. All they could say was “But Bush…”
Finally, I tried the war records argument. Poor Bush had already signed his DoD Form 100, which authorized the DoD to release any records they could find on him. Kerry never signed his, and I don’t think has done so to this day. The Swifties, you will remember at the time, stated that they did not believe Kerry earned his Purple Hearts and they wanted him to release his records so that they could see who approved the medals. You will also remember that the Swifties were hurting Kerry severely in the polls and he was unable to defend himself. So, back to the question on logic. It seems logical that there are only two possibilities for what Kerry’s war records would show — either they would substantiate Kerry’s claims or they wouldn’t. If anyone else thinks of any other possibilities, please post them. So, given the beating Kerry was taking in the polls at the hands of the Swifties, he would want to prove them wrong and shut them down. If the records substantiated Kerry’s claims, then the Swift Boat Veterans would be shown as liars and would lose all credibility. It would have shut them down completely. So why would Kerry not sign his DoD Form 100? It seems to me, logically, that the only reason he would not do so is that he knew, or feared, that the records would in fact NOT back up his claims. I asked my liberal friends if they saw any logical conclusion that could be drawn other than that. Of course no one could refute that line of argument. The liberal press (everyone but right-wing talk radio, Fox commentators, and the Washington Times) wouldn’t push Kerry on any of these points, but eagerly swallowed the fabricated story of the Bush Texas war records hook, line, and sinker, making the extreme liberal bias of much of the media about as obvious as it could ever be. Liberals tell me all the time that we’ve lost our rights under Bush, and when I ask them to name one right they have lost, they can’t even name one. Pathetic. If all you can do is repeat the diatribes of angry lefties, and you have lost the ability to think and reason for yourself, then you will have a tough time in a logical argument with an informed person.
People, except those whose only point of view comes from the front page and the editorial sections of the New York Times (the news and the Op-Ed sections are quite similar in that they both contain opinions), see this. They know that despite Bush’s failings, and he has plenty about him to criticize, that the left doesn’t offer much as an alternative. Air America has failed precisely because it was nothing but the mouthpiece for the sort of liberal — the Al Franken and Michael Moore sort — that much of America just doesn’t find that appealing. The sort of liberals who sit in million dollar homes bitching and whining about Bush and his cronies while eating filet mignon and drinking champagne. Air America was basically full-time whining and complaining, with little offered in the way of constructive suggestions or alternatives. It was depressing, repetitive, and boring, and if it wasn’t, it might have survived. Liberals simply don’t realize that saying the same thing over and over again to people who already think the same way as they do isn’t going to attract listeners. Of course it failed. It had to fail.
The failure of Air America should be a message to the left, and some of the posters here apparently see it that way. If the Democrats want to appeal to anyone right of center, they’d better be thinking about their platform and their candidates. They are not running against George W. Bush in 2008, and if they win, they will inherit Bush’s problems — all of them. Iraq, Afghanistan, energy issues, immigration issues, and global Islamic jihad — of all those, you can tag Bush with the war, but the rest started long before Bush took office, which means, to those of you who can follow an argument, that he can’t be responsible. So learn from this, stop whining, and try thinking — work on convincing the toothless and shoeless red-staters that you’ve got a plan when this lands in your lap. Talking endlessly about the problems to people who don’t care one bit about our laws, our beliefs, human rights, and our freedoms is not a solution, even if Jimmy Carter and John Kerry think it is. The voters, even though addled by reality TV and crippled by the American educational system, still have to be convinced.
October 13th, 2006 at 5:59 pmAir America totally sucked anyway so no big loss!
October 13th, 2006 at 6:04 pmRe: Post 721:
“The political winds are shifting in America.”
No, those aren’t shifting political winds, that is just the massed flatulence released from the appropriate orifices of the unwashed, malodorous masses of mewling Lefties.
Liberals and progressives now have a voice that must not remain silent.
But of course, the Left just LOVES a voice with the political timbre and tone of fingernails dragged across a blackboard
As Martin Luther King Jr. once said, “It is not the words of my enemies that I fear; it is the silence of my friendsâ€. That’s why we need a liberal voice!
Didn’t Leon Trotsky feel the same way before the icepick hit his head?
October 13th, 2006 at 8:13 pmHate to say it, but they deserve to go under for canning Mike Malloy. That John Elliot guy is an embarrassment.
“Progressive” and “timid” should not be associated. Ever. Air America has gone mainstream. Try radiopower.org instead.
October 14th, 2006 at 12:51 amWhat a tragedy for the progressive cause! AirAmerica filing Chapter 11 at this critical time just prior to the November elections may well damage our efforts to win back control of the House and/or Senate. It’s a diversion we simply don’t need at this crtical time because the stakes are so very high. So the question arises: Are there any possible grassroot actions that could help Air America survive the days ahead? Can listeners rally their individual financial support to keep Air America intact and transmitting?? I’m certain that thousands of us would respond to such an appeal by reaching for our wallets!
October 14th, 2006 at 1:12 ambannana
October 14th, 2006 at 1:51 ambannana???????????
October 14th, 2006 at 1:52 amI always get a kick out of someone like JJ above who start their post as “I’m a moderate…” and then go off on a right-wing tirade.
The integrity (or more correctly, lack thereof) of the right-wingers is amply demonstrated in that post. And at least they are given an opportunity to speak here. Try posting liberal thoughts on a right-wing blog.
October 14th, 2006 at 3:29 pmWhen are you guys going to wake up. I have voted Dem all of my life, including Al Gore. Campaigned for McGoverna, Dukakis and Mondale, but what you call progressives have destroyed the party. It is all about hate and screaming now. Where has the thoughtful concerned party gone. I actually voted for Bush this last time because I felt there was some sincerity and commitment to a belief, not simply mindless “I hate†therefore “I am†critisizing of anyone with a differing view. Wake up guys Michael Moore, Sean Penn, and the rest of the Hollywood fools are not leaders they are guilt ridden mindless props that have nothing meaningful to add – they only take away. I am waiting for the party to come back to its’ senses.
Comment by A thinker — September 14, 2006 @ 9:48 am
Worth repeating.
October 14th, 2006 at 4:04 pmCome on guys, your never going to get anywhere. If you want to win elections get away from Holleywood, venom and the totally lack of family values. This is a country made up mostly, like it or not, of people who like traditional values, even if they don’t pactice them. The other problem is, you have stop acting as though as other opinion is idiotcy and not “Progressive”. Remember the majority rules and this is not what the majority wants. As Reagan once said “I didn’t leave the Democratic party, it left me”. Want to have an idea at what Americans want look at JFK, he looks more conservative than the Republicans we have today.
October 14th, 2006 at 9:21 pmI would think all the rich “progressives” like Rosie, Michael Moore, Ted Turner, Babs, George Soros, etc could open their wallets to keep Air America running for a while. I would love to see them throw lots of their money down that drain.
October 15th, 2006 at 11:37 pmI got tired of the hate, hate, hate. And, the same is true on right-wing radio… when they spew hate, most Americans tune out. An objective, constructive, centrist group with leadership that brings people together would sweep the country.
October 16th, 2006 at 10:24 amPerhaps Air America went bankrupt because the Gloria Wise Boys and Girls club called their loan back in (might want to google this one). I find it more than semi-interesting that a group preaching social responsibility are doing so at the cost of people in need of real help. At a time when conservatives are being billed as the destroyers of our country I guess it’s alright to look away from any liberal misdoings. Get a grip.
October 16th, 2006 at 3:37 pmI have been listening to talk radio since 1983. It was, at one time, a great place to get info on current events with a modicum of bias. The advent of the “Rush Limbaugh” style of talk radio took the medium to depths unknown.
I’ve listened to Al and had to turn him off after Katherine left. He has no radio talent and seems to be regurgitating the research of others when he’s not talking totally off the cuff without facts.
For a long time I listened to Randi, but she has become so strident and angry that her intelligent message gets lost.
Air America’s biggest problem is that they tried to use the conservative style against itself. It hasn’t worked. What was, and is, needed is a return to what talk radio used to be, an intelligent forum for ideas and current events. Eliminating the Bush hatred and America bashing in order to remain above the extreme partisanship of the day. That’s what will draw intelligent thinking moderates and independents. It’s time for the Dems to leave the fringe aside and work toward engaging the middle.
October 16th, 2006 at 4:14 pmPerhaps if they offered some meaningful ideas and thought… vs the continuous “Bush Hate” talk, they will be more successful. I originally found it amusing, but now am turned off by all the hate talk. Hate is not “progressive” – innovative thoughts and ideas are.
October 16th, 2006 at 7:06 pmNo longer listening in Seattle – Brenda
“Progressive” is the wrong word you continue to lavish apon yourself.
You really mean regressive. You regress to a neanderthal level, as you continue to belittle people and say nothing but hate.
There are no ideas or true thoughts to follow and consider, in your continuous tirades.
Good ridens to bad rubish.
You hurt my ears
October 16th, 2006 at 9:26 pmI’ve listened to Al and had to turn him off after Katherine left. He has no radio talent and seems to be regurgitating the research of others when he’s not talking totally off the cuff without facts.
For a long time I listened to Randi, but she has become so strident and angry that her intelligent message gets lost.
The Cook
You really mean regressive. You regress to a neanderthal level, as you continue to belittle people and say nothing but hate.
There are no ideas or true thoughts to follow and consider, in your continuous tirades.
M in M
Pretty simple really. Despite the political content, Left/ Right/ whichever, talk radio must be entertaining to grow an audience. People can agree with Al or Randi, and listen for just so (not too) long.
October 16th, 2006 at 11:20 pmSteph Miller, OTOH, is in the process of bringing ideas and entertainment together. She has a chance. She does not need ‘hate Bush’ advertisers.
http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,1923597,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=1 So, Al wasn’t lying when he said that AA hadn’t filed for bankruptcy last month while he made jokes about reports they had filed, or planned to file. What’s the story now Al?
October 17th, 2006 at 2:14 amLet’s see a rumor leaked out that Hate-America was going belly up and they replied in September with, “We’re tired of people lying about us.”
Then it turns out they were going belly up. Now who are the liars? Oh that’s right, the political wing that claims moral and intellectual superiority over everything one else. Yep, lying and obfuscation are the hallmarks of superiority.
AA failed because few want to listen to people who do almost nothing but tell their audience how hated they are (by the rest of the world – which has it’s hand out demaning charity from those they want to insult or kill) and also tell their audience how the world will be ending soon. Those thoughts aren’t plausible and pleasant. And those who get a charge out of hearing those thoughts need powerful psychotropic medication, not a radio pedestal to angrily shout from.
October 17th, 2006 at 2:35 pmFrom Drudgereport 17 Oct ‘06:
NYC TALKRADIO RATINGS
JULY-SEPT, SUMMER 2006
HOST’S PEAK HOUR
AGES 12+
LIMBAUGH 342,000
HANNITY 322,900
CURTS/KUBY 318,600
IMUS 279,600
GAMBLING 257,100
LEVIN 245,700
OPIE/ANTHONY 197,100
SAVAGE 175,600
O’REILLY 157,800
INGRAHAM 127,600
AL FRANKEN 122,300
RANDI RHODES 115,300
LIONEL 86,700
Read ‘em and weep, ye dervish-whirling, petulant, tantrum-throwing, infantilized Lefties!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
October 17th, 2006 at 4:32 pmThe filing is indicative of theworking of the free market, a fact which no doubt will be excused away by “progressives”- the Air America market share was tiny and shrinking, and people obviously didn’t want to “buy” the product that liberals were “selling”. It failed- pure and simple.
October 18th, 2006 at 10:26 amBut don’t dispair- you guys still have ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN
The Free Market Decided pinheads!
October 18th, 2006 at 10:52 amGosh. All this talk about “stupid” progressives, and “pinheads”–uh, under which administration do we find our deficit the largest in our history? which group of geniuses has led us–and our soldiers–into one foreign mess after another–and the number of rabid, violent anti-Americans out there is now only bigger than it’s ever been? who is the group besmirching the great name of America, saying Americans need to use torture–real torture, which the armed forces say isn’t even effective at getting information out of people?
Look at the scandals, and the assault on our civil liberties–principles that protect all of us, not just self-acclaimed right-wingers.
Look at the disdain for the natural environment, and the refusal to deal with a looming energy crisis.
Who’re the liars here, and the pinheads, and the people undermining traditional American values? That Air America’s declared bankruptcy speaks more to the incompetence of its managers. As the owner of a small business, I’m not too sure about drawing larger conclusions from its difficulties (it’s still on the air, BTW)…
October 19th, 2006 at 10:25 amWhy put your comments in bold? You drone on your talking points that have nothing to do with the discussion. You don’t want to hear our “larger conclusions” but then you make you own.
What a pinhead. Air-Head Anti-American Radio was one sided Bush Bashing and no one wanted to hear it. Case closed. If you want to blame management then blame them for letting leftist jokers continue with content no one wanted to hear.
Look at the ratings, not the balance sheet. You can’t make money when no one listens.
October 23rd, 2006 at 8:23 amListen, Happy+Guy, if you spent less time name-calling and more time thinking you’d realize that Air America’s bankruptcy pales in comparison to the moral and philosophical bankruptcy of the Bush administration. Scratch that: Air America’s bankruptcy pales in comparison to the U.S.A.’s, since Bush has handed me, you, and every other American citizen a massive, massive debt we’ll never ever crawl out from under. Leftist, rightist, who gives a !@#$? “Look at the ratings”??? Look at the truth.
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:12 pmThe truth is we are discussing the title of the thread. It is about Air America going under. Fact is no one wanted to hear Bush bashing so they went under.
If you think America is bankrupt then leave. It is that simple, go find a better system somewhere else. We don’t like you, want you or need you.
This site is nothing but name calling. Bush it like Hitler. Bush is an idiot. Rove is bla
bla bla bla bla. People on this site can never fight facts when put in their face so they name call or change the topic like you did.
Otherwise we are talking about why AAR failed. It sucked. The people on the show are screaming liberals presenting one side. The few people who listened are the few who agree with them. Most of America is moderate to conservative. The far right and far left (people on this site) are fringe idiots who we get off on making fun of. We can’t believe these idiots are allowed to even vote. Full of conspiracy theories and generally haters of America that gives them the freedom they abuse.
If you want to change the topic we can talk about bankruptcies in the system like Ted Kennedy buying his way out of a murder charge. That is pretty serious.
October 24th, 2006 at 9:05 amI’ve noticed that several of my prior posts have been deleted–it’s probably easier that refuting the points I’m making–so I’m gonna try this again.
RE: POST 752
Gosh. All this talk about “stupid†progressives, and “pinheadsâ€â€“ who is the group besmirching the great name of America(?)
Besmirching? As in “AmeriKKKa”? Or as in “BusHitler”? Gee, golly, goshums Cletus, that just COULDN’T be those upright, virtuous, better-than-thou Leftiwes could it?
(S)aying Americans need to use torture–real torture, which the armed forces say isn’t even effective at getting information out of people?
Right. Let’s buy all the mean ole Muslim terror-faction members strawberry parfaits and let them go on the rides at Coney Island or Magic Mountain. Then, when they’re all tuckered out, we’ll get them all snug in their beddy-byes and read to them from gentle stories like Babar The Elephant…because THAT is much less brutal…and DEFINITELY will yield SCADS more useful intel, right? I mean, you don’t want America to LOSE now do you, hmmmm?
Look at the scandals, and the assault on our civil liberties–principles that protect all of us, not just self-acclaimed right-wingers.
Scandals like Huggy Bubba Clinton getting hoovered by an intern just slightly older than his daughter? Or a congressman buggering a house page like ole Mr. Studds did? THOSE likds of scandals? And as for assuaults on civil liberties, when was the last time jackboots kicked in the door of an INNOCENT American citizen? Oh, that’s right, it was under Bill Clinton when he had some of his boys thunder down to Florida to do a snatch-and-grab on little Elian Gonzales. Remember THAT, Sparky?
Look at the disdain for the natural environment, and the refusal to deal with a looming energy crisis.
Oh yes, the LOOMING energy CRISIS…when MAJOR oil deposits have just been found off the Gulf Coast…AND the fact that the majority of people merely laugh derisively at the chicken-littling about “global cooling” during your average New England winter which is accompanied by the gnashing of teeth and rending of clothes about “global warming” during summers in the desert southwest. These are things about which we should be wailing and weeping while whirling like dervishes as the environmental skies fall all around us! (Nope, no disdain here.)
Who’re the liars here, and the pinheads, and the people undermining traditional American values?
Oh that COULDN’T be those true-blue, all-American, flag-burning, baby-aborting, dope-huffing, politically-correct, passive-aggressive Lefties now could it? Naaaaaaaah, because THOSE folks are the living and breathing embodiments of all things the Founding Fathers held dear when first cobbling together this nation, right?
(Let’s see how long THIS post lasts in the forum)
October 24th, 2006 at 1:37 pmAs a progressivist, I can only hope that this benefits Air America. I did not like their association with trash-talking Jerry Springer, who has made a living mocking less educated and less intelligent people. Several of the hosts do not use reason and evidence in making their arguments, but use the time on the air restorting to Ad hominem attacks, emoting and even screaming. And I have been troubled by some of the Anti-Semetic Propganda that has surfaced on the Mother Jones programs. Maybe now the quality of the programing will improve with passionate but clear-thinking hosts who are not trying to be left-wing versions Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage.
October 25th, 2006 at 11:19 amJohn,
you’ve basically outlined the problem with the AA ‘network.’ And you have brought up a very interesting, and relevant point. The anti-semetic propaganda, however, is not limited to MJs programing but is spread across AA.
And during the recent actions against Israel re Lebanon and Gaza, the tone got much worse and the callers were rather open about their anti-Jew sentiment.
This crap used to come from the Right, but now its all over progressive radio.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:37 pmIt is very that “progressive” left wingers think that randi rhodes is the voice of balance. She is a left wing idiot, her show sucks I have tried to listen, but cannot stomach the stupidity. al franken’s show sucks, the only left wing talker that had any talent (little at that) was Ed Schulz, and he has gone the way of jerry springer. Keep using jerry springer as your mouthpiece for the demokratic party and you wonder why people do not like the demokratic party.
October 27th, 2006 at 9:48 amProgressive radio is definitely needed. It gives us a place to get info, filtered through a liberal perspective. We already get the conservative perspective through the corporate media. They keep mentioning the liberal media. It’s possible that many or most of the reporters may have a liberal leaning, but the people who own the media outlets, DO NOT. If the media was truly liberal, there would have been strong questioning and opposition to the Right-wing buildup before the Iraq invasion and occupation. There’s a chance that it may have even been averted. I also hold the Democratic leadership resposible for not voicing enough opposition. There were many people who said what is happening, would happen but they didn’t have a big enough forum in the media. That is where strong progressive radio networks could have been of service.
Maybe people like George Soros could help fund or finance progressive radio. We can see from the Air America experience that it is sorely needed.
-Robin
October 30th, 2006 at 5:10 pmRE: POST 760
Maybe people like George Soros could help fund or finance progressive radio. We can see from the Air America experience that it is sorely needed
GEORGE SOROS?!? (stifles peal of laughter) Robin, clearly you fail to grasp, or are in willful denial of, the forces of the free-market economy and thusly crawl cravenly, with an economically fellatory passion towards the likes of a George Soros (your hypocrisy be damned).
Robin, your craven mewling for a gotbux savior betrays your tissue-thin proletarian stance…time to hand in your Vladmir Lenin trading card and your red banner or accept the fact that you’re a wrung-out sock puppet of the nomenklatura. Either way, the laughs just keep on coming for us on the Right side of things.
October 30th, 2006 at 8:51 pmAll I know is, Air America left Dallas, without a word, and now there’s a huge hole in my radio, as I commute to and from work. It was like oxygen that floated in one day, then . . . . . what happened? I go back to living in the highly “sheltered” world of right wing Dallas, which is the center of much of the idiot power in Washington. Of all places on the planet, nobody needed Air America more than Dallas. I can survive the loss, but there are millions of lost souls here that need saving. That need to understand what it means to . . to . . . question authority. . . gasp!
Houston also lost Air America, but at least Houston has the rare honor of being host to Pacifica radio. San Antonio/Austin get to keep Air America? Hell, San Antonio gets to have them on their FM dial. But why not Dallas? I don’t get it. . . . very sad. big loss. Franken, Rhodes, we miss you both. Sometimes, I just leave my radio turned off now. What’s the point?
October 31st, 2006 at 2:41 pmRE POST 762:
“Of all places on the planet, nobody needed Air America more than Dallas. I can survive the loss, but there are millions of lost souls here that need saving.”
Of ALL the places on the planet, hmmmm? Inclusive of Upper Volta, Lapland, or the Steppes?
“Surviving the loss”? Worse than the loss of a loved one from an incurable disease, I’d imagine.
“Millions of lost souls that need saving”? Yea, verily, bereft are the many of the vaunted secular gospels, betided woefully of the brutal loss of their mind melting, anti-American, pessimistic on-air sermonizings. Verily, the exaggerations run thick in the wailing and moaning.
Will this unintentional comedy never cease?
October 31st, 2006 at 8:38 pmAir America has been plagued by financial difficulties since day one. I don’t understand how it has consistently failed to turn profits when every single democrat, liberal etc. in America stood by it. It’s just amazing to me that so many conservative talk shows are able to thrive when the single most visible progressive radio station in the world is currently filing for bankruptcy reorganization. What does that tell you?
November 6th, 2006 at 6:12 pmre: Jason’s coment 764: what the failure of Air America indicates is that a nationwide radio network cannot survive if major corporate backers “black-out” advertising. You may not know this but AA is under boycott by major corporate powers.
November 7th, 2006 at 10:36 amWith the outcome of the elections now set in the radical Leftist-Democrats’ favor, Air America junkies can now breathe a sigh of cannabis-tinged relief. Big Brother Government will ride in on its spavined burro, its back bent under the weight of the State-funded sheckels sent as an infusion to this financially anemic embarrassment to the broadcast airwaves.
Fear not, ye patchouoli-scented, scruffy wretches, yearning to sop up Air America’s audio drippings…Principessa Pelosi will write your favs a fat check and all will be right (that is Left) with the world once again.
November 8th, 2006 at 1:04 pmLook…I tried…really I did. I tried to listen and pull something usefull out of Air America. Al Franken is an unfunny and snobbish dolt. Randi Rhodes is a shrill, harping, confused and stammering twit. This was the best you had? Couldn’t they at least try to be interesting and entertaining. I liked Franken on SNL…what happened? and If I hear Randi Rhodes squeal the word “Macaca, Macaca” again, I’m going to pull all my hair out. Get some entertaining and interesting show hosts and I promise to give it another try…promise. If not, AA deserves to go the way of the Dodo.
November 13th, 2006 at 6:22 pmHow does joey big time (post 765) know that all of the major corporate powers are boycotting AA? If so, why? Could it be that since there are no ratings and therefore no listeners, advertisers can see no return on investment?
I’m a Republican myself, but frankly I wasn’t that unhappy about the election results. The majority of Americans are conservative, but they didn’t vote for my party’s candidates despite that. People stated they were tired of the corruption scandals and wanted a new direction in Iraq. This wasn’t a surprise. Unfortunately a lot of good Representatives and Senators went down with the ship in the process (though thank heavens Ned Lamont got his comeuppance). Bush, I am convinced, could have retained control of the Senate for Republicans had he fired Rumsfeld (a scapegoat had to be found) before the election and announced a major bipartisan initiative to change course in Iraq. I am confident that would have won over a measly couple thousand voters in Montana and perhaps Virginia and saved at least one seat (and therefore control). However, he as usual chose not to do that. So be it. Now he, like Clinton, will be forced to work with the opposition party after a mid-term election, whether he likes it or not.
The value in this, for Democrats, is that they will have a chance to stop the whining and actually do something constructive. If they do that, they will likely retain control. If they do not, they may lose the next election. What has become clear since the election is that the Democrats do not actually have a policy, but I suspect they will develop one — they will have to. I saw in the paper today that some 60% of Americans don’t think the Democrats have a plan in Iraq. That’s a lot of Americans. It also tells me fairly reliably that the election was against Republicans, not for Democrats.
The value for Republicans is, perhaps, some long-overdue self-examination. Of course the liberal left (the sort that liked AA) doesn’t see it, but they and their views are as dogmatic and uncompromising (and intolerant) as they claim the far right’s views are. There is one view on any given issue, and all of them subscribe to it. Both sides need therapy and, on the left, also some anger management counseling.
The Democrats, after many years of whining about the economy, job migration, and Iraq, are now going to have to do something about it. The US economy is strong, actually, and to make it better by the 2008 election will take some doing, especially since the forces of globalization will continue to cause American jobs to migrate overseas because those forces are economic in nature and somewhat independent of politics. The weak parts of the economy are the rust belt states where manufacturing jobs have been lost because they can’t compete in a global economy with countries that don’t pay people or provide benefits. The Democrats will have to do something about immigration issues, and they will have to help figure a way out of Iraq after their years of providing moral support to the terrorists through constant criticism of everything the President did (sorry, but that’s the hard truth, lefties). And of course there is still global warming and the oil price problem. The Democrats will have to figure out how to take that on also. And the deficit. So the time for action has come, replacing the time of whining. The Democrats will be judged on their performance in the next two years, not on Bush’s, because the Democrats are now in a position to force the direction taken on these issues. And once Bush is gone, it will dawn (albeit slowly) on the Democrats that the Islamic Fascist movement was not the creation of George Bush and that it will continue to strengthen, not weaken, after Bush is gone, and the world will need to figure out how to deal with it effectively (which they have not and are not — just look at France which has terrible problems even though they have opposed Bush on nearly every issue). The whining and Bush-bashing may well be seen by history as misplaced and counterproductive.
The joy expressed by al Qaida, Islamic millitants, and repressive “leaders” in states like Iran at the fall of the Republicans from power should indicate that if putting Democrats in power makes terrorists deliriously happy, maybe that decision should be re-thought.
For the sake of the country and the world, I wish the Democrats luck, skill, and wisdom. Unlike the Democrats, who I am convinced wanted failure in Iraq and in the US economy to bring down the hated George Bush (again, lefties, I’m sorry, but that’s how you acted), I want them to succeed, because the costs of failure outweigh my desire to have Republicans return to power. That, I have to say, is far more than the average Air America listener wished for the Republicans and the President. Mean-spirited, nasty, and negative is what AA has always been. If AA manages somehow to limp along until 2008 when Bush leaves office, what on earth will they talk about after he’s gone??
November 15th, 2006 at 4:09 pmI listened to Air America quite a bit. I think it was a good idea to use comedians as hosts because they are more entertaining, and political jabs and other messages seem to carry a stronger ring of truth about them when mixed with humor. Also, when a comedian “gets serious” that means something… and people tend, for some reason, to trust comedians as good-natured, well-wishing folks. I frankly think that little logic was employed in the argumentation, and there was a significant appeal to emotion and innuendo… almost like an Art Bell for progressive ideas instead of flying saucers. Of course, I’m progressive in some ways but conservative in others, so maybe I’m part of the “conspiracy”… or maybe I’m part of the regular thinking crowd that can see through bad arguments regardless of how well they are presented… which made listening to airamerica an exercise in frustration knowing that good progessive ideas have no voice… they only have a 24/7 political ad with about as much meat as a goldfish in a piranha tank… at least with Air America.
December 28th, 2006 at 4:03 amThank God Air America is going out of business. The last thing the country needs is more demogogues and “adults” who believe either party has a monopoly on good ideas and common sense. If Rush and Coulter are bad, why would adding Air America and Ivins be a solution?
No doubt my points fall on deaf ears in a place like this. I guess I keep hoping there are still people out there that put the country and solutions before party and paradigm.
December 28th, 2006 at 4:14 pmWell for one Air America is nothing but about comedians. Talk radio should be about truth. Saying the words Air America and Truth in the same sentance is like mentioning Hitler and Love in the same breath.
January 3rd, 2007 at 9:27 pmI watched one of your hosts this morning (1/24/07) on CNN. Considering what she had to say about the Presidents speech last night, I can see why you’re going the way of the dinosaur.
January 24th, 2007 at 7:40 amLosers always claim their woes on others…….Looks like the fat cat exects. of this co. saved thier own butts only at the expence of thier fellow brothers.
Such a boatload of self serving cry babies.
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