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		<title>By: Dave von Ebers</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: No. 73.  Retired Republican Soldier, I have a question - not &quot;snarky&quot; or sarcastic, just a serious question that deserves a serious answer.

I understand your concern over safety and security, but at what cost?

How much liberty are you willing to give up?  Is there a point at which you&#039;d rather risk another terrorist attack than give up more liberty?  

The rationale you use to defend Bush&#039;s policies is very open-ended.  Anything to keep us safe.  But I presume you think there is some limit to government authority, even if it is designed to protect the citizenry.  Right?  There has to be some tipping point where you&#039;d say, okay, I&#039;ll take my chances that the terrorists might strike again, but I&#039;m not willing to give any more ground to the government ... or is there?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: No. 73.  Retired Republican Soldier, I have a question &#8211; not &#8220;snarky&#8221; or sarcastic, just a serious question that deserves a serious answer.</p>
<p>I understand your concern over safety and security, but at what cost?</p>
<p>How much liberty are you willing to give up?  Is there a point at which you&#8217;d rather risk another terrorist attack than give up more liberty?  </p>
<p>The rationale you use to defend Bush&#8217;s policies is very open-ended.  Anything to keep us safe.  But I presume you think there is some limit to government authority, even if it is designed to protect the citizenry.  Right?  There has to be some tipping point where you&#8217;d say, okay, I&#8217;ll take my chances that the terrorists might strike again, but I&#8217;m not willing to give any more ground to the government &#8230; or is there?</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When dems clap when the kill the patriot act that allows US agencies to talk to each other about terrorist and then want to stop a surveillance program that listens to overseas call from terrorist and give terrorist all the same constitutional rights the a common US citizen has the American citizen can make up their own mind about the dems</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Retired Republican Soldier, you have just proven (by ignoring the FISA law) that you hate the US Constitution.

Pres. Bush is more than legal in requesting wire taps, &lt;strong&gt;ONLY SO LONG AS HE GETS A COURT ORDER!&lt;/strong&gt;  Guess what?  he can wait up to three full days AFTER he&#039;s already had a wire tap in place to get the court order!  So much for your false claim that the FISA law is too restrictive.

Have you done any research on the current FISA law, RPS?  You sound like all you&#039;ve done is swallow the &quot;party line&quot; announced by your elected officials like a good lemming.  How many FISA requests have been turned down since it was enacted?

&quot;The judges modified only two search warrant orders out of the 13,102 applications that were approved over the first 22 years of the court&#039;s operation. In 20 of the first 21 annual reports on the court&#039;s activities up to 1999, the Justice Department told Congress that &quot;no orders were entered (by the FISA court) which modified or denied the requested authority&quot; submitted by the government.

But since 2001, the judges have modified 179 of the 5,645 requests for court-ordered surveillance by the Bush administration. A total of 173 of those court-ordered &quot;substantive modifications&quot; took place in 2003 and 2004 -- the most recent years for which public records are available.

The judges also rejected or deferred at least six requests for warrants during those two years -- the first outright rejection in the court&#039;s history&quot;

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/253334_nsaspying24.html

So, before you start making more false claims about how Pres. Bush has his hands tied, you might want to get off your lazy fanny and do a bit of research about the current FISA law and actually question your pro-big-government leanings and wonder why 3 days to get &quot;forgiveness&quot; after already tapping someone is just way too hard for Pres. Bush to have someone else do for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retired Republican Soldier, you have just proven (by ignoring the FISA law) that you hate the US Constitution.</p>
<p>Pres. Bush is more than legal in requesting wire taps, <strong>ONLY SO LONG AS HE GETS A COURT ORDER!</strong>  Guess what?  he can wait up to three full days AFTER he&#8217;s already had a wire tap in place to get the court order!  So much for your false claim that the FISA law is too restrictive.</p>
<p>Have you done any research on the current FISA law, RPS?  You sound like all you&#8217;ve done is swallow the &#8220;party line&#8221; announced by your elected officials like a good lemming.  How many FISA requests have been turned down since it was enacted?</p>
<p>&#8220;The judges modified only two search warrant orders out of the 13,102 applications that were approved over the first 22 years of the court&#8217;s operation. In 20 of the first 21 annual reports on the court&#8217;s activities up to 1999, the Justice Department told Congress that &#8220;no orders were entered (by the FISA court) which modified or denied the requested authority&#8221; submitted by the government.</p>
<p>But since 2001, the judges have modified 179 of the 5,645 requests for court-ordered surveillance by the Bush administration. A total of 173 of those court-ordered &#8220;substantive modifications&#8221; took place in 2003 and 2004 &#8212; the most recent years for which public records are available.</p>
<p>The judges also rejected or deferred at least six requests for warrants during those two years &#8212; the first outright rejection in the court&#8217;s history&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/253334_nsaspying24.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/253334_nsaspying24.html</a></p>
<p>So, before you start making more false claims about how Pres. Bush has his hands tied, you might want to get off your lazy fanny and do a bit of research about the current FISA law and actually question your pro-big-government leanings and wonder why 3 days to get &#8220;forgiveness&#8221; after already tapping someone is just way too hard for Pres. Bush to have someone else do for him.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=815991', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 02:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 01:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RRS, it is a win-win isn&#039;t it?  If they don&#039;t attack it is because of Bush.  If they do attack it is because the Dems are soft on terror.  Is there any way that your precious thugs are at fault?</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 00:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RRS 
Careful - Don&#039;t be too smug -- it can come back to bite you in the ass.

What source is informing you that the &quot;bad guys&quot; are dried up.  Could it be the fact-free Fox network?
Heard about Anbar Province (50,000 square miles in area) being lost to AlQaeda?  This is in addition to the sectarian violence.
Our troops are caught in the midst of a civil war which was not expected, not planned as a contingency, and there is no way to exit.
Thanks, GW.

There can be healthy debate between parties -I, for one, have not always voted Democratic.  I have always listened to both sides and voted for the man I believed to be best.  (I did not vote for Clinton the first time).
It is one thing to debate policy, it is another to call those who debate you traitors, and that is the game plan of your party.  They are closed.  
There is no debating you because your mind is closed, and that is too bad, because you don&#039;t appear to be a stupid person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RRS<br />
Careful &#8211; Don&#8217;t be too smug &#8212; it can come back to bite you in the ass.</p>
<p>What source is informing you that the &#8220;bad guys&#8221; are dried up.  Could it be the fact-free Fox network?<br />
Heard about Anbar Province (50,000 square miles in area) being lost to AlQaeda?  This is in addition to the sectarian violence.<br />
Our troops are caught in the midst of a civil war which was not expected, not planned as a contingency, and there is no way to exit.<br />
Thanks, GW.</p>
<p>There can be healthy debate between parties -I, for one, have not always voted Democratic.  I have always listened to both sides and voted for the man I believed to be best.  (I did not vote for Clinton the first time).<br />
It is one thing to debate policy, it is another to call those who debate you traitors, and that is the game plan of your party.  They are closed.<br />
There is no debating you because your mind is closed, and that is too bad, because you don&#8217;t appear to be a stupid person.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=813611', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Retired Republican Soldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retired Republican Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry Marie but I am not awar of an attack here in the States since 9/11, are you?  I would add the most of the violence in Iraq is not aimed at American Troops but at each other.  The die hard Jihadi wannabe pool has just about dried up on the bad guys and they are having a tough time recruiting.  Fact is the Shia have a long standing score to settle and the Sunnis are hitting.  I am just surprised that the Shia didn&#039;t go on a nationwide killing spree after Saddam was ousted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry Marie but I am not awar of an attack here in the States since 9/11, are you?  I would add the most of the violence in Iraq is not aimed at American Troops but at each other.  The die hard Jihadi wannabe pool has just about dried up on the bad guys and they are having a tough time recruiting.  Fact is the Shia have a long standing score to settle and the Sunnis are hitting.  I am just surprised that the Shia didn&#8217;t go on a nationwide killing spree after Saddam was ousted.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=813568', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again Katy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again Katy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=813494', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/13/snow-defends-boehner/comment-page-2/#comment-813446</link>
		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the story marie refers to:

Why protect the Saudi royal family and Pakistani military? 
- September 13th, 2006     BY GERALD POSNER
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/node/4023
...
fellow randi listener, ri - er - correct?
...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the story marie refers to:</p>
<p>Why protect the Saudi royal family and Pakistani military?<br />
- September 13th, 2006     BY GERALD POSNER<br />
<a href="http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/node/4023" rel="nofollow">http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/node/4023</a><br />
&#8230;<br />
fellow randi listener, ri &#8211; er &#8211; correct?<br />
&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=813446', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ronin Tetsuro</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/13/snow-defends-boehner/comment-page-2/#comment-813141</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronin Tetsuro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So who determines what constitutes a terrorist, RRS? 

There&#039;s been a lot of things that the United States has done that would make it eligible for the &#039;rouge state&#039; classification, so what&#039;s our caveat? What&#039;s our out? That we are America, and we work for the greater good? 

You and I both know that&#039;s a bunch of Bushit, so how can we be objective and draw the line without also incriminating ourselves? Wouldn&#039;t it behove us to act in ways that don&#039;t also condemn us? If you agree with that, then you DISAGREE with the Administration, and that makes you a terrorist anyway. 

So you might as well get on the side of the &quot;good guys&quot;. That would be the American *people*, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So who determines what constitutes a terrorist, RRS? </p>
<p>There&#8217;s been a lot of things that the United States has done that would make it eligible for the &#8216;rouge state&#8217; classification, so what&#8217;s our caveat? What&#8217;s our out? That we are America, and we work for the greater good? </p>
<p>You and I both know that&#8217;s a bunch of Bushit, so how can we be objective and draw the line without also incriminating ourselves? Wouldn&#8217;t it behove us to act in ways that don&#8217;t also condemn us? If you agree with that, then you DISAGREE with the Administration, and that makes you a terrorist anyway. </p>
<p>So you might as well get on the side of the &#8220;good guys&#8221;. That would be the American *people*, by the way.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=813141', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/13/snow-defends-boehner/comment-page-2/#comment-813032</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We cannot  beat the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan - what makes you think we can keep them from coming here.
&lt;strong&gt;Our tactics are wrong - they are not working.&lt;/strong&gt;  
BTW, Four names of &lt;strong&gt;Saudis &lt;/strong&gt;were given up by  al Zabaydah early in 2002 (not through torture, but through rules of engagement interrogations).  The names included three Saudi princes and one official.
Within the year, they all died under unusual circumstances.  One died in a one-car accident, one was killed in a plane &quot;explosion&quot;, one died of &quot;thirst&quot; (at age 26) and one died of a &quot;heart attack.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We cannot  beat the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan &#8211; what makes you think we can keep them from coming here.<br />
<strong>Our tactics are wrong &#8211; they are not working.</strong><br />
BTW, Four names of <strong>Saudis </strong>were given up by  al Zabaydah early in 2002 (not through torture, but through rules of engagement interrogations).  The names included three Saudi princes and one official.<br />
Within the year, they all died under unusual circumstances.  One died in a one-car accident, one was killed in a plane &#8220;explosion&#8221;, one died of &#8220;thirst&#8221; (at age 26) and one died of a &#8220;heart attack.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=813032', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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