29 retired military and Defense Dept officials
By on Sep 14th, 2006 at 2:56 pm
29 retired military and Defense Dept officials
urge the Senate Armed Services Committee to reject the White House’s attempt to relax CIA interrogation standards. (Full letter HERE.)
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A coward will scream for the torture of his enemies, and will seek to act in a manner of extreme barbarity for the sake of masking his cowardice. He will kick a dog when it is down and torture a ten year old for the sake of being “Tough.”
Those men, who signed that letter, are not cowards, and are worthy of respect.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:04 pmBut will AWOL boy pay any attention to them? Who is the commander in chief? He’s the decider.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:08 pmWe have a POS for a president.
Military men couldn’t possibly know how to conduct a war. Now, the real experts are guys like Wolfowitz, Perle, Libby and all their enablers, er, I mean, associates.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:13 pmOf course Bush won’t listen to these people, just like he didn’t listen to daddy when he (daddy) warned about invading Iraq.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:14 pmMarie
GW is a coward. He has demonstrated this over and over and over again. He won’t listen, and he will claim that failure to be a show of resolve. Resolve is for wimps, you need a president with the guts to adapt.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:16 pmSeptember 14th, 2006 1:07 am
GOP Leaders Back Bush on Tribunals
At the same time, the House Armed Services Committee voted 52 to 8 to ratify the White House’s version of legislation creating military commissions for trying terrorism suspects. The measure would give Bush the authority he seeks to withhold classified evidence from defendants, admit testimony that defendants might maintain was coerced, and protect U.S. intelligence agents from legal action over their interrogation methods. House Republican leaders plan to bring the tribunal bill to a vote next week.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:25 pmIf This passes then the next American that walks past my house and looks into my garden .,…Im Gonna waterboard him till i get out of him why he was looking over my garden fence and if he dont tell me the truth his kids will be next then Ill pull his grandmothers fingernails out one by one, till i get the truth ……….. lets hope EH
September 14th, 2006 at 3:29 pm“The letter signed by 29 former military leaders also urged Congress to make the safety and protection of U.S. troops, should they become prisoners, the highest priority.” Do any of you seriously doubt the outcome of a U.S. servicemember detention by the bad guys? Should read: “29 useful idiots lose touch with reality.”
September 14th, 2006 at 3:37 pmFor the most part, you set the rules so that when the tables are turned you will be treated in a similar manner to how you have treated others – and anyone who thinks that there will never be a day when the US requires charity or mercy from others is not a student of history.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:39 pmWould someone tell me who altered my screen name to Jay+Randal? I just noticed after I posted on another thread? This is weird so be aware that some troll is playing games on here again!
September 14th, 2006 at 3:42 pmconsider the impact that redefining Common Article 3 would have on Americans who put their lives at risk in defense of our Nation.
imagine this ….Imagine all your spies abroad being tortured to find out what they were spying in the first place????????
September 14th, 2006 at 3:43 pmTHIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYBODY EXCEPT PROTECTING BUSH ,CHENEY AND RUMFELD THEMSELFS FROM THEIR OWN WARCRIMES >> GET IT
September 14th, 2006 at 3:46 pmNo surprise that the people on the right would find this letter distasteful. They lack the foresight to realize that allowing torture will affect how our military is treated in all conflicts going forward. Not just in the current war on terror.
It’s the same logic behind why they don’t understand why warantless wiretapping is bad. I suspect they’ll figure it out when a president they don’t like is in office.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:49 pmARTICLE 3 DOES NOT INCLUDE AMERICAN SOLDIERS SOON
In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions:
(1) Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed ‘ hors de combat ‘ by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.
To this end, the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:
(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;
(b) taking of hostages;
(c) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment;
(d) the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.
(2) The wounded and sick shall be collected and cared for.
An impartial humanitarian body, such as the International Committee of the Red Cross, may offer its services to the Parties to the conflict.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:03 pmThe Parties to the conflict should further endeavour to bring into force, by means of special agreements, all or part of the other provisions of the present Convention.
The application of the preceding provisions shall not affect the legal status of the Parties to the conflict.
Jay: “Would someone tell me who altered my screen name to Jay+Randal?” – - You and several other lucky posters have apparently been made into ULTRA-posters. Either that or you’ve been Supersized. (The site is flaky in many ways today.)
September 14th, 2006 at 4:21 pmThe Bush administration is objecting to a groundbreaking treaty that set up a nuclear weapon-free zone in Central Asia.
Under the treaty signed Friday, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and Turkmenistan committed themselves not to produce, buy, or allow the deployment of nuclear weapons on their soil.
But the United States, along with Britain and France, refused to attend the signing ceremony in the Kazakh capital
Arms control groups believe the Bush administration is being disingenuous.
“The reason that many of us suspect the U.S. is opposed to this is more fundamental,” the independent Arms Control Association’s Daryl G. Kimball told OneWorld. “This is a very strategic region. The U.S. is reticent to give up the option of deploying nuclear weapons in this region in the future.”
“The United States is now involved in a massive program to overhaul its nuclear arsenal,” she added. “In fact, they’re working to replace every nuclear warhead and all of the existing delivery systems in the arsenal to ensure prompt precision global strike capabilities. So the United States is openly using the threatened use of nuclear weapons around the world.”
September 14th, 2006 at 4:27 pmRRS
September 14th, 2006 at 4:52 pmIf any progressive labeled retired military the way you just did, you would be up in arms. Bush has shown no respect for the military, from his days in the National Guard until today. The military is nothing more than a tool for him. He has valued the opinion of military leaders, has done nothing to increase the safety of troops sent into battle, and has done nothing to insure that returning injured and emotional disturbed soldiers get all the care they need.
should be NOT valued the opinion of military leaders
September 14th, 2006 at 4:53 pmPLC
RRS is no retired soldier. He is a keyboard commando. The level of disrespect he shows to those who served and disagree with him, more then confirms my thoughts on the matter.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:05 pmIt’s official: We have reached a point in our country where an administration’s underhanded scheme to absolve itself of past and future war crimes is now considered a political strategy by our mainstream media.
This is madness on a scale not even Network author Paddy Chayefsky predicted.
September 14th, 2006 at 5:23 pmWow, 29 retired and Defense officials…. I’m really impressed. Lets see how many thousands of them are there?
September 14th, 2006 at 8:02 pmRRS is a “keyboard commando” (#19)
September 14th, 2006 at 8:53 pmHow appropriate – succinct and to the point.
Republicans are typically cowards who have never served in the military much less a war. Some have but the majority have not. Show me a man who thinks that torture is the way to go and I will show you a chickenshit chickenhawk who has not been that close to what is going on. This bill is to protect those who have already been in violation…starting at the top it would include Dubya, Cheney, Gonzalez and downward. Note the republican veterans and non-veterans, e.g., chickenshit chickenhawks…
http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html
September 14th, 2006 at 9:02 pmkasinca is a coward and a fool. Little coward hiding behind his mothers skirt calling people names….. really a manly thing to do.
September 14th, 2006 at 9:29 pmBrandi, would you like to join the Air Force thread? I am thinking you would make a great guinea pig.
September 15th, 2006 at 12:30 am