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Air Force secretary proposes testing

By Amanda Terkel on Sep 14th, 2006 at 10:07 am

Air Force secretary proposes testing

high-power microwave devices “on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield.”

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64 Responses to “Air Force secretary proposes testing”

Yardley says:

Sounds about right from the jerks who came up with this idea, God Demands That We Profit from 9-11.

What is wrong with these guys?
September 14th, 2006 at 10:09 am
Canadian Bystander says:

And they laughed when I put on my tinfoil hat!
September 14th, 2006 at 10:13 am
S.D. says:

Oddly enough, it has a twisted logic to it. Sort of like:
“It’s Not Bad, we do it to Our own people!”

An example of someone else willing to have other people make sacrifices??
September 14th, 2006 at 10:14 am
Marie says:

This is incredible. Do all the latent Dr. Strangeloves in the military feel they have unlimited support in the White House?

Sure, they say, use microwave guns on demonstrators, protestors, marchers, picket line walkers – who else? Rowdy football fans?
There is something frighteningly wrong with leadership today.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:15 am
TripMaster+Monkey says:

Yardly:

You do realize that’s a satire site, right?
September 14th, 2006 at 10:16 am
Tim Wilkins says:

If you wanted a clear, reasoned analysis of the effects, why would you not microwave all of Bush’s Cabinet until crisp…of course, they’re already overdone…
September 14th, 2006 at 10:20 am
William Cormier says:

What kind of skewed logic is that??? If they are used on an American “crowd,” it will probably be a peace rally or something of that nature.

If the DOD is worried it may have some residual effects, and possibly be dangerous, why wouldn’t they test it on the battlefield first instead of subjecting American citizens to the testing?

At least on the battlefield, we know it is being used against the enemy, but to try it here demonstrates just how much the Pentagon feels about the well-being of American citizens. With logic like this, it’s no wonder we are losing the war in Iraq and Afghanistan – Bush has run-off most of the generals that had even an iota of humanity or common-sense!
September 14th, 2006 at 10:21 am
Marie says:

#3 SD
THAT is EXACTLY his logic.
I read the full article yesterday.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:22 am
Drew+Mackenzie says:

“And in other news, the Air Force’s failure to correctly install surge protection in their microwave emitter testing equipment resulted in the evaporation of approximately 1,300 residents of San Francisco. The Air Force defended its testing, saying it regrets the ‘unfortunate sacrifice of human test subjects, but on a bright note, that section of beach is cleaner than it’s been since 1920, and we’re thrilled about the environmental benefits the system has to offer.’”
September 14th, 2006 at 10:23 am
JLo says:

If they bring the Pain Ray humvees, I’m bringing my molotov cocktails. Seems fair.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:26 am
Sharon Cox says:

Let’s see, how does this work exactly..All the senior marchers and peace protesters that have pace makers and heart conditions like me get zapped into oblivion…bushco saves ton’s of money from social security payment’s..Now they don’t have to pay it back into the S.S. fund that they have plundered…First round…Next the others are zapped so their hired gun’s can round them up and put them in the camp’s or ship them all to foreign secret sites to be tortured and accused of being terrorests…Geees when are the public goint to wise up and stop swallowing all this crap from the reich….Sure glad I kept my gun’s and ammo along with the food and water…..Blessings, we need them more than ever…….Peace, right after we clean out our corrupt government.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:26 am
Yikes says:

TripMaster, I had been to the conservatives for american values blog yesterday after someone posted a link to it. I laughed because I thought it was satire and then cried at the comments because some thought it was real and then I thought ‘maybe it is real’ and read a couple of other entries and then I thought ‘Crap – somebody is incredibly witty’ and then I was sad because I could see some of our trolls agreeing with it.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:26 am
Zooey says:

Briseadh na Faire brought this up in yesterday’s Think Fast thread.

This is sick — sickness in a long line of horrors during the last 5+ years.

Are they going to wait for people to get out in the streets protesting this kind of thing, and then use it on them?

Oh wait….we don’t protest in the streets about ANYTHING.

Thank goodness…..we’re safe.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:27 am
Yardley says:

Now I do…and I feel like a dolt.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:28 am
old_europe says:

Now, they have gone completely bonkers. They can’t be serious, I was checking for the date, but it is definitely not April 1st.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:34 am
RUCerious says:

When I was in Nam, we had microwave dishes, enormous ones on our site.
Every now and again a bird would fly by when a transmission was coming or going and POOF! Fried bird. Not a pretty sight. I’m sure the weapon they have isn’t that powerful, but it sure as hell can’t be good for you! Why not test the anthrax vaccine with an airborne spray of New York City?
September 14th, 2006 at 10:35 am
dlet says:

So we are fighting terrorists to protect our freedoms at home that seem to include being zapped by our own military by micowave guns. Ain’t democracy worth pain that exciting the water molecules in your body would bring?
September 14th, 2006 at 10:35 am
RUCerious says:

Yikes – Geez, you had a real up and down day, huh?
September 14th, 2006 at 10:36 am
Sharon Cox says:

Good Morning Zooey, I’m not going to take the safe route, I’m going to march and scream and yell till this bunch of rat basterd’s are out of our government…Never thought I would live this long any way….Year’s ago my gun instructor said.” any one that would go up against a woman with a gun must be real stupid, they are better shot’s and subject to PMS”..Well I don’t get the PMS thing but a good shot…Enough of this bunch already, win or loose in Nov. I wan’t them all out….Time for all to get out the big brooms and start cleaning…….Blessings
September 14th, 2006 at 10:37 am
katy says:

gee, this was brought up yesterday… so why didn’t TP jump on it then? …maybe they wanted to do some fact checking and research before putting it here… it’s important to have a reliable reputation…

SO WHY DIDN’T YOU DO THAT BEFORE POSTING THE AAR THREAD?
HUH?… just wondering…

good morning…
September 14th, 2006 at 10:37 am
Dumb Fox says:

I’m actually intrigued that the military is testing “non-lethal weapons”. As if it’s not enough that our soldiers are going into hostile environments with crappy body armor, now we want to give them non-lethal weapons too. Cos you know a tranquilizer dart or pepper spray is exactly what you need when a f*cking AK47 is aimed at your head.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:38 am
midwestblue says:

The Air force brass are slowly going insane. Remember, these are the guys who are actively pressing for war with Iran. Thank God for the Army and Marine Corps brass, who are against such a suicidal move. THAT particular piece of brass should be decommissioned. Reason: Personality Disorder.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:40 am
Zooey says:

Good morning, Sharon.

I was hoping my sarcasm would come across with the “safe” comment. Ah well.

Better get to work, forgot to set the alarm last night and the sun didn’t wake me. Hug that cedar for me, will ya?

Peace…
September 14th, 2006 at 10:42 am
BushKill says:

Not the first time our Government has used us a ginnea pigs.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:43 am
oldtree says:

if we put our officers on the front like the Israeli’s do, they would be the first in, last out of any confilict.
If this ‘generalissimo” is so big on the technology, Please, point it at him first. (concentrate on his genitalia so that he can’t breed)
September 14th, 2006 at 10:43 am
Herman B Hayes says:

Yardley — try not to link to us (CFAV) on here, ok? I appreciate it, but I could do without the reputation as a spammer.

On the topic at hand…boy oh boy, I cannot wait to be microwaved by my own government. I just cooked a Hot Pocket, and I just cannot rest until I have my very own crispy crust and savory filling.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:45 am
Dumb Fox says:

On second thoughts, maybe we’re just pre-trialling the Gonzales torture test. So that, you know, we break the Geneva Conventions on our own citizens before we get found out by military investigators. So long as the microwave incineration doesn’t kill the anti-war hippies, we can pipe it in to Gitmo cells. But not if the prisoner’s got a pacemaker. Cos then it would kill him and that would be torture.

Here ends the gospel according to John (Yoo).
September 14th, 2006 at 10:49 am
Yikes says:

RUCurious, actually that was only a snippet of 5 minutes of my day LOL.
September 14th, 2006 at 10:58 am
dlet says:

Hayes,
That actually would be an interesting scenario. Peace Marchers with Hot Pockets sewn to the outside of their clothes being zapped by the Air Force Ray Gun, then sitting down to have a little lunch break.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:01 am
Clyde+the+Ripper says:

It is the duty of a good Military leader, as Rummy and Dummy have both claimed to be, to lead one’s troops into battle. So, in keeping with that custom, so recently forgotten, I propose we give Rummy and Dummy one each of the new weapons and let them try them out on Congress. If they prove to be non-lethal then Congress could jack up the power and shoot R&D until the level of lethality is reached.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:02 am
bluefish says:

”If we’re not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation,” said Wynne. ”(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press.”

Wynne then added, “But if we accidentally do significant damage to one of our own citizens, well they probably deserved it anyway.”
September 14th, 2006 at 11:12 am
Republicans are the fear and smear party says:

Excuse me, but didn’t Saddam Hussein use weapons on his own people? Isn’t that what Republicans said was so awful? Republicans pretend to hate him but they emulate him all the time.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:27 am
Jason says:

Didnt we learn anything from the CIA’s MK-ULTRA testing of LSD, mescaline, etc on unknowning US civilians and CIA employees in the 1950s-1970s? Didnt Rummy himself work for Nixon and Ford when such testing was banned? Even Cheney was working for Ford at the time!

our leaders are starting to remind me more and more of the Japanese Imperialists. Where were the developed? Unit 731?
September 14th, 2006 at 11:36 am
Coffins draped with flags says:

So there is no difference between George W Bush and Saddam Hussein afterall.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:48 am
June says:

What is wrong with these people? Are they going to test Bunker-Busting Nukes on us too?

I think I get it: We don’t care what the International Community thinks until it bolsters our case for attacking our own citizens. Great…
September 14th, 2006 at 12:03 pm
For Truth says:

Hayes I love the idea, bring your frozen food, and after the pain subsides, you can have your hot lunch!
September 14th, 2006 at 12:22 pm
barfly says:

Normally, I’d be against such things – but they should test this baby on Fred Phelps and his miserable spawn until their eyes pop!
September 14th, 2006 at 12:32 pm
Briseadh na Faire says:

For more information:

September 2005:

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:u2sphUFlv5gJ:www.de.afrl.af.mil/Factsheets/ActiveDenial.pdf+%22Active+Denial+System%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10

and this article:

http://www.sandia.gov/news/resources/releases/2005/def-nonprolif-sec/active-denial.html

“Burn injury is prevented by limiting the beamâ€™s intensity and duration.” Any guess as to what happens if the intensity is increased?

From Wikipedia

Military researchers claim that the system causes no long-term damage and the Department of Defense hopes to use it to avoid killing rioters or insurgents. … Proponents of the system hope to arm troops “with a nonlethal capability in military operations other than war” â€” citing, for instance, peacekeeping and crowd control operations. For example, the beam could be focused on a street or other critical area, and the pain would cause rioters to flee from that area.

Tests were conducted using a civil disturbance model, not a combat situation:

during tests carried out at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico, participants playing the part of rioters were told to remove glasses and contact lenses to protect their eyes.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8644374/

The concerns go back as far as April 2001:

Where and when would such a device be employed? Martin Lee, writing in the San Francisco Bay Guardian, after covering a Pentagon unveiling of the project in April, 2001, suggests some possibilities: “Zap-happy Pentagon strategists envision using the Active Denial System in various operational settings where a small number of American troops or military police might be confronted by a horde of angry civilians. Border patrols, â€™peacekeeping’ missions, urban riots, and domestic disturbances have been flagged as situations in which such a device could prove handy.”

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2004/041202-zap.htm

One final note: since this weapon does not cause permanent damage at low settings, its use on prisoners will be acceptable under President Bush’s definition of torture. People could be bound and subject to excruciating pain without the ability to avoid exposure to the microwaves.

Testimony elicited during such interrogations would then be admissible in his Military Commissions, without cross examination. Welcome to the NeoCon Dark Ages.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:52 pm
james k. sayre says:

Microwaving fellow Americans? Why, it must be the Bush war crime family and their “culture of life”…. It just never ends with these idiots…
99% of the terrorism would end if Americans would stop arming and supporting Israel and would stop acting like imperial idiots around the world.
Cheers.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:54 pm
Clyde+the+Ripper says:

#34 Coffins

Unfortuntely there is a BIG difference betweem Saddam and DUHbya: Saddam is in jail and on trial. Soon may that difference be corrected.
September 14th, 2006 at 12:55 pm
Sharon Cox says:

Thank’s for bringing this to our attention yesterday, BnF..Sad state of our country indeed…

Great post again Clyde….Blessings all..I’m outta here till this site work’s better…..Blessings
September 14th, 2006 at 1:05 pm
Briseadh+na+Faire says:

More Star Trek:

The first two prototypes of the Personnel Halting and Stimulation Response, or PHaSR, were built at Kirtland last month and delivered to the laboratory’s Human Effectiveness Directorate at Brooks City Base, Texas, and the Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate at Quantico, Va. for testing….Systems such as PHaSR have historically been too powerful at close ranges and ineffective but eye-safe at long ranges. The next prototype is planned to include the addition of the eye-safe range finder and is planned for completion in March 2006.

http://www.defense.gov/transformation/articles/2005-11/ta110105a.html
September 14th, 2006 at 1:12 pm
Briseadh+na+Faire says:

Finally, please see The Space Vehicles Directorate from the Air Force Research Laboratory.

http://www.vs.afrl.af.mil/ProductLines/

Battlespace Environment Division… to support Air and Space Forces for America’s Global Engagement.

Spacecraft Technology Division is to provide technology to revolutionize space capabilities for Global Awareness and Control of Space.

Integrated Experiments Division is to develop, integrate and demonstrate vital developing military space concepts.

Now, consider these developments in light of the Statement of Principles of the Project for a New American Century.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

It bears repeating that many signers of the Statement of Princples are now in high positions in the Bush Administration.
September 14th, 2006 at 1:29 pm
nofltwlt says:

I tried to send the following message through an Air Force site but the site was brain dead – go figure.

I just read a post on http://www.huffingtonpost.com regarding the use of a microwave weapon that Secretary Wynne suggested be used against AMERICAN CITZENS!!! for crowd control.

I have a much better idea. Secretary Wynne should schedule a trip to the thousand islands, spend a week on each one, for each day on each island he should shoot himself with his Flash Gordon death ray. Then if he likes that, he can ask one of his closest friends to shove it up his behind.

This nut should be screened for mental problems immediately!
September 14th, 2006 at 1:39 pm
Trinary Suka says:

I say we should use it on the congress and senate to make them act right,,like chickenhawaks on a electric plate — every time they take money from a lobbyist or do something unethical…BZZzzzzZzzzAapp!!
September 14th, 2006 at 1:53 pm
Marty Didier says:

Iâ€™m really sad right now and also totally outraged. Iâ€™ve been posting for a very long time and some of you may recognize my name. People, you had better wake up! We are ALL in BIG ASS TROUBLE!

I was with in a family for more than 26 years who joined Organized Crime shortly after I married. Only this group was made up of Political Corruption, The MOB, Criminal Element within the Federal Government AND Military (Pentagon and CIA) and much more. They constantly bragged about being â€œThe Worldâ€™s Largest Criminal Systemâ€. This is for good reason because this system extends beyond our shores. Iâ€™ve been saying this for a long time and feel that enough has been in the news over the last few years that many people should be able to put it together.

My personal lifeâ€™s experience crosses many times with Gus Boulis / Abramoff, Gus Boulis Casino Boats and my ex-wifeâ€™s family entertaining buying in to his business, Chicagoâ€™s â€œHired Truck Scamâ€, Chicagoâ€™s Asphalt Scam, â€œWined & Dinedâ€ as a family by MOB people to launder money, Chicago Tribuneâ€™s Mortgage Fraud Articles (but I know it involves the Banks, Trust Groups and others) and many more. Also, what pains me is the knowledge of many murders committed by this group to where all of them are claimed to be from natural causes. My closest friend lost her best friend in 2002 by him being murdered this way. She and members of her family will testify in court that he was murdered! At the same time they were setting him up, they were trying to seduce me into the same trap, however I knew ahead of time what this was all about and survived.

Iâ€™ve been writing on the Internet about these crimes for a very long time. Iâ€™m a technical person who deals with many different types of technology. I write computer code, build electronic systems and design, design and build high-end sophisticated mechanical equipment and more for clients. While I had my office ALL of my computer network systems Windows software where constantly contaminated by criminal software. I have the IP addresses of where my captured data went and wanted to give it to the County Police but they refused to accept it. The reason is, I know from the family that the County Police Chief is involved in the criminal system. I ended up closing my office. When I went to ask questions about how these people were coming into my system on a Microsoft Technical Posting Website, I was immediately banned. This meant I was shut off from being able to learn from others about what they were doing with my systems by other technicians.

Iâ€™ve had many computers blown up. This forced me to use local library computers to research and post. While visiting my local library, Iâ€™ve been constantly harassed and they also try to stop me from using the computers. Recently, they destroyed my last two laptops. One belonged to my son. Neither, had wireless. My home and friends homes are constantly broken into. After one break-in, my laptop started acting strange as if someone was inside as I was using it. While at the library, they used what ever was installed in my laptop to shut it down while I was composing in Word. Thereâ€™s a lot more to this as itâ€™s been going on for years.

I live with my elderly (age 83) mom. Mom comes from a large family and sheâ€™s a middle child. Like others in her family, sheâ€™s in good health and able to drive. Iâ€™ve noticed this year that her memory and behavior isnâ€™t what it should be especially compared to her older sisters and brother. We started looking at her meds but that wasnâ€™t out of normal. There were a few times while I was sleeping that I woke up feeling really hot. As I awoke, I heard a loud buzz and after being more awake, I heard someone right outside where I was sleeping quickly walk away. This happened a few times and what I did was get up and slept elsewhere. Looking back, Iâ€™m lucky to have done this.

Mom has complained a number of times of feeling really hot, nauseous with a sick feeling, headaches and more. Often this happened while she was sitting watching TV, which is near an outside wall of our home. Itâ€™s also where I would occasionally sleep, and experienced the buzzing sound and felt the same way. Back then, I really didnâ€™t think much of it because I accepted that mom might feel this way, but the comparison of her and her family said something was seriously wrong.

While sitting in our Kitchen working on my laptop (before it was blown), I became extremely nauseous with a serious sick feeling. It was as if I was trying to swim in strange water, is the best way I can explain it. Our kitchen is near an outside wall. Because of my technical abilities, I immediately knew that I was possibly in front of a high energy wave. I thought that this was totally bizarre but became very concerned. It quickly made me sick enough to where I ran out the room. I remember staring back at where I was sitting and wondering if my computer was going to survive? It froze and needed to be rebooted.

Being somewhat confused of what this was, but also very alarmed with what it might be, I went and asked mom how she felt. She said she felt fine. But frankly, my 83 year old mom isnâ€™t up on this stuff and wouldnâ€™t know what it was if she was in front of it, even though she has commented with feeling sick as mentioned above.

I couldnâ€™t get what happened out of my mind and started researching about Mind Control using radio waves. I know from the family that they employ Phys-Ops as one of their tools to manipulate and control others but I lacked the deatil of what this was. Many of the crimes my ex-in-laws did were to stop others from trying to sue them. What usually was employed were Phys-ops to intimidate the victim into giving up their legal fight. It worked most of the time. But if they continued, that is when they would try to have them harmed or even murdered and some were. However even after knowing this, I wanted to get to the bottom of what this was for mom and I.

Frank Olson, Ph.D. in biochemistry was one of the leaders in the early 50’s with researching how to control individuals and masses fundedd by the CIA. His son, Dr. Eric Olson, Clinical Psychologist believes his father was murdered, you ought to read their story. It may be important for you to research into others who have died similar deaths. Two that I can recall were retired Vice Presidents of major Banks, just last year. What I know about this huge criminal system and that the Banks are involved. Itâ€™s likely these people were murdered because they may have had something to do with setting up the shell companies that launder money. Also, didnâ€™t some of the people involved in Enron also die strange deaths? I personally know from the family that both Bill Clinton and the Bush family are directly involved. This is how huge this criminal system is!

It wasnâ€™t until my research into Olsonâ€™s project and what itâ€™s grow into, that I realized what had happened to my mom and my self. Iâ€™m outraged. You would be wise to realize that they havenâ€™t just started, theyâ€™ve been doing this for a long time. Their victims are people like us, ordinary people who â€œKnow Too Dam Muchâ€ and arenâ€™t afraid to talk about it! If you want to get your brain fried, keep talking about about what you know, like I am and they will start going after you! Our Federal Government is OVERRUN with a Criminal Element thatâ€™s totally Out Of Control! And they don’t have ANY regard for human life what so ever!

Why is it that the County Police, even though they were working on an investigation involving me, REFUSED to accept my package of IP addressees? Why is it that other Law Enforcement groups run way when I try to talk about the Murders and harmful acts I know about? Some personal have replied with information explaining that they know what this is. Somehow and someway, at the Federal Level, Law Enforcement needs to get on this right now!

My God People, I suspect they harmed my Mom! When is everyone going to wake up?

This Criminal System also likes to use â€œPoisonsâ€. I found the food in my office poisoned and threw it out, only after getting sick more than a few times. The pain was so exteme that I buckled over and contimplated going to the Hospital. I know more than a few others and some have died! Besides using poison, they also use something that will give you â€œCancerâ€. I know some who ended up this way. And there are many other murders done by this same group. One suspicious situation is the death of my attorney! Thereâ€™s valued reasons why they would have murdered her. Thereâ€™s also statements from others who ended up dying in a similar way, so donâ€™t take this lightly, either.

Iâ€™ve been trying to get to the bottom of all of this for years. Why are there constant road blocks thrown at me, isnâ€™t anyone interested in wanting to get to the bottom of this?

There are other criminal activities this criminal group is involved in. Another one is Very Wide Scale International Drug Distribution and they are directly responsible for selling drugs to our people on a very large scale! This is another area I can talk with great detail and experience!

Marty Didier, Northbrook IL
Currently all my electronic communications including email has been compromised. Iâ€™m not able to send out or receive important email. Plus, all phone conversations also are interrupted and compromised. Iâ€™d love to connect with someone about this, but youâ€™ll have to come to me, unfortunately.

I also want to connect with Eric Olson, son of Frank Olson and others who have been victimized by this criminal group. For Eric Olson, I may have information that would help lead him to the bottom of his fatherâ€™s murder.

Links:
Mind control
http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Mindcontrol

Psychological operations
http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Psyops

Psychological Operations
http://www.psywarrior.com/

All About The Psywarrior
http://www.psywarrior.com/mybio.html

Psychological Operations/Warfare
http://www.psywarrior.com/psyhist.html

PSYOP and MILITARY
http://www.psywarrior.com/links.html

Major Electromagnetic Mind Control Projects
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/major_mc_projects.htm

Timeline of Important Dates in the History of Electromagnetic Technology and Mind Control
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/timeline_emc.htm

MK-Ultra: The CIA and Radiation
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/cia_and_radiation.htm

Mind Control Slavery and the New World Order
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/mind_control_slavery_nwo.htm

Mind Control Index
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/mind_control_index.htm

The Government Psychiatric Torture Site
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/Dial%20Protected

A HISTORY OF SECRET CIA MIND CONTROL RESEARCH
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/pro-freedom.co.uk/skeletons.html

Skeletons in the Closet: Part 2
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/pro-freedom.co.uk/skeletons_1.html

The Search for the Manchurian Candidate – John Marks
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/marks1.htm

1977 Senate MKULTRA Hearings
http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/freebook/mk/toc.html

MKULTRA Hypnosis Experiments
http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/freebook/mk/mkultra4.html

MKULTRA Documents
http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/freebook/mk/

MKULTRA Subproject No. 83
http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/freebook/mk/subproject83.html

MKULTRA Trickery
http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/freebook/mk/mkultra6.html

MKULTRA Materials and Methods
http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/freebook/mk/mkultra7.html

MKULTRA and LSD
http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/freebook/mk/mkultra5.html

I have many more if anyone is interested?
September 14th, 2006 at 1:54 pm
Trinary Suka says:

Put an egg in the microwave and turn it on, it doesn’t take a genius to see that this would be harmful to people.

OH FORD! Just pass out the SOMA alreadY!
September 14th, 2006 at 1:56 pm
Marie says:

As long as they are suggesting that it be tried on Americans, I think we all know a few in the White House and on Capitol Hill who would be fair guinea pigs.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:24 pm
CyraBrown says:

I suggest trying it out at Republican fund raising events. You know how rowdy they can get! They have no problem torturing people, even killing them, but they are concerned for the wellbeing of our ‘enemies’ so they want us to be the lab rats??? Get crucial! This is intended to be used on us. And this ‘cover’ story about ‘testing’ is a flat out lie. Are they planning on asking for volunteers? Good luck with THAT! Maybe that is what they plan on using those 73,000 Katrina victims they have stashed away behind the Exxon refinery.
September 14th, 2006 at 2:44 pm
Marie says:

#49 CB
You just created an instant scenario. The thousands crowded into trailers at the Katrina internment camp on the Exxon property, with fencing to contain them, might decide to protest their “government housing” or talk to reporters (who will then get arrested).
In order to quell the “uprising” a new microwave device – that doesn’t really “harm people” it just “slows them down” will be used on them.
They will have accomplished the proverbial two birds with one stone – quelled a “riot” and tested their weaponry.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:01 pm
Republicans are the fear and smear party says:

This is so insane. This moron only cares about what the press will think about using it on “enemies” so his solution is to use it on Americans exercising their first amendment rights first. Typical Republican thinking.
September 14th, 2006 at 3:15 pm
Jay+Randal says:

Use of a microwave weapon on a crowd of people would be horrendous > it would start to cook people from the inside out > just a few seconds of being hit by the rays could cause blindness or cancer to form from damaged tissue > elderly and children could die suddenly > long term health damage to survivors is unknown?!
September 14th, 2006 at 3:34 pm
Jay+Randal says:

Politically the use of this weapon on Americans would most likely result in a violent revolution in the US and overthrow of the government in DC!
September 14th, 2006 at 3:35 pm
Jay Randal says:

Posts 52 and 53 are me, but my screen name got altered by a troll to Jay+Randal, so be aware that names are being altered with a + mark!
September 14th, 2006 at 3:51 pm
Trinary_Suka says:

Posts 52 and 53 are me, but my screen name got altered by a troll to Jay+Randal, so be aware that names are being altered with a + mark!

Comment by Jay Randal

Try Using an _ between names.
September 14th, 2006 at 4:20 pm
tom49tom says:

Seems to me like the official slogan of our government has now become “Fighting ‘em here so we won’t have to fight ‘em over there!”
September 14th, 2006 at 7:50 pm
Coffins draped with flags says:

Thanks Clyde.

Wish Bush in jail like Saddam would become a reality.
September 14th, 2006 at 8:11 pm
Briseadh na Faire says:

test
September 14th, 2006 at 9:39 pm
JPark says:

Where the hell are the trolls on this one? Any volunteers you cowardly little people? Nope? Un-American little bastards.
September 14th, 2006 at 11:59 pm
Zooey says:

test
Comment by Briseadh na Faire

A+
September 15th, 2006 at 12:25 am
My Cracks and Serials says:

My Cracks and Serials

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view
March 18th, 2008 at 6:27 am
Cracks House says:

Cracks House

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view
April 7th, 2008 at 4:30 am
Rorie says:

Rorie

Good work.
April 7th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Turtle Dove says:

Turtle Dove

Thanks for the blog!
April 9th, 2008 at 12:11 pm

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