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	<title>Comments on: Sen. Graham: White House Held Military Lawyers In 5 Hour Meeting and &#8216;Tried To Force Them To Sign A Prepared Statement&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: John Public</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/graham4/comment-page-2/#comment-1513674</link>
		<dc:creator>John Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why it&#039;s important to get a &lt;a href=&quot;http://civiliandefensecounsel.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Civilian defense counsel&lt;/a&gt; like Lance Sigmon (the link attached). The JAG system needs some serious work, my court martial went much better with him on the scene.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why it&#8217;s important to get a <a href="http://civiliandefensecounsel.com/" rel="nofollow">Civilian defense counsel</a> like Lance Sigmon (the link attached). The JAG system needs some serious work, my court martial went much better with him on the scene.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1513674', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/graham4/comment-page-2/#comment-1291009</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;i cant get this on a power point!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: appletree &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Senate and White House Seek Compromise on Torture</title>
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		<dc:creator>appletree &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Senate and White House Seek Compromise on Torture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That&#8217;s probably why so many military and legal professionals oppose Bush&#8217;s plans to &#8220;clarify&#8221; the conventions. In fact, the president grew so desperate to gain the approval of legal professionals that White House officials kept JAG officers in a meeting for five hours in an attempt to get their approval for the president&#8217;s program. They refused to endorse his proposal, so the president simply lied and said that they had endorsed it: President Bush was questioned about Gen. Colin Powellâ€™s letter criticizing White House legislation that would authorize torture. Bush tried to downplay Powellâ€™s letter by pointing to another letter signed by the militaryâ€™s top uniformed lawyers saying they supported Bushâ€™s plan: BUSH: Thereâ€™s all kinds of letters coming out â€” and today, by the way, active duty personnel in the Pentagon, the JAG, supported the concept that I have just outlined to you. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That&#8217;s probably why so many military and legal professionals oppose Bush&#8217;s plans to &#8220;clarify&#8221; the conventions. In fact, the president grew so desperate to gain the approval of legal professionals that White House officials kept JAG officers in a meeting for five hours in an attempt to get their approval for the president&#8217;s program. They refused to endorse his proposal, so the president simply lied and said that they had endorsed it: President Bush was questioned about Gen. Colin Powellâ€™s letter criticizing White House legislation that would authorize torture. Bush tried to downplay Powellâ€™s letter by pointing to another letter signed by the militaryâ€™s top uniformed lawyers saying they supported Bushâ€™s plan: BUSH: Thereâ€™s all kinds of letters coming out â€” and today, by the way, active duty personnel in the Pentagon, the JAG, supported the concept that I have just outlined to you. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=839964', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: heaven help us</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/graham4/comment-page-2/#comment-835608</link>
		<dc:creator>heaven help us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bush Administration (as well as all political leaders)do exactly what they are told to do.  They are being run by the illluminattti !! This was supposed to be a highly secret organization. Originally it consisted of 13 families who knowingly or unknowingly serve Satan.  Everything that happens is supposed to happen.  Remember that Bushh was Head of the CIA and the bill that he wanted passed excluded the CIA from being centralized as a &quot;warmonger.&quot; The FBI deals with our territory but the CIA is global.  We are just waiting with baited breath-the ONE-WORLD government.  NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think I am pretty well informed on what we are headed towards. You&#039;ll be OK as long as you have Jesus
in your heart NOT your mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bush Administration (as well as all political leaders)do exactly what they are told to do.  They are being run by the illluminattti !! This was supposed to be a highly secret organization. Originally it consisted of 13 families who knowingly or unknowingly serve Satan.  Everything that happens is supposed to happen.  Remember that Bushh was Head of the CIA and the bill that he wanted passed excluded the CIA from being centralized as a &#8220;warmonger.&#8221; The FBI deals with our territory but the CIA is global.  We are just waiting with baited breath-the ONE-WORLD government.  NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
I think I am pretty well informed on what we are headed towards. You&#8217;ll be OK as long as you have Jesus<br />
in your heart NOT your mind.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=835608', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jusb1me</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/graham4/comment-page-2/#comment-835255</link>
		<dc:creator>jusb1me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fring them to justice? if that is what  W wants then why does the law need to be rewritten before trials can begin? And  why does he threaten us with taking his ball and going home  if  the law isn&#039;t rewritten to his  liking  . It would seem to me that if they have  gotten info  to stop planned attacks then the curent law  is doing the job quite nicely .Also how can one country rewrite  international law?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fring them to justice? if that is what  W wants then why does the law need to be rewritten before trials can begin? And  why does he threaten us with taking his ball and going home  if  the law isn&#8217;t rewritten to his  liking  . It would seem to me that if they have  gotten info  to stop planned attacks then the curent law  is doing the job quite nicely .Also how can one country rewrite  international law?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=835255', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Otherworld &#187;</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/graham4/comment-page-2/#comment-834157</link>
		<dc:creator>Otherworld &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apparently the White House held military lawyers captive in a 5 hour meeting where they tried to force them to sign a prepared statement in support of Bush&#8217;s pro-torture bill, and in a pathetic attempt to try and counteract Colin Powell&#8217;s letter criticizing the legislation. Thankfully the Senate is investigating the White House&#8217;s actions&#8230;and hopefully, something will come of it. &#8220;President Bush has been more respectful of civil liberties and civil rights than any previous wartime president in the history of the United States.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Apparently the White House held military lawyers captive in a 5 hour meeting where they tried to force them to sign a prepared statement in support of Bush&#8217;s pro-torture bill, and in a pathetic attempt to try and counteract Colin Powell&#8217;s letter criticizing the legislation. Thankfully the Senate is investigating the White House&#8217;s actions&#8230;and hopefully, something will come of it. &#8220;President Bush has been more respectful of civil liberties and civil rights than any previous wartime president in the history of the United States.&#8221; [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=834157', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: null</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/graham4/comment-page-2/#comment-831829</link>
		<dc:creator>null</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 02:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Other than RON PAUL Icannot think of any people in gov&#039;t who represents the American peoples rights under the constitutions. Our politicians, upon being elected, immediately forget the oromises made and concentrate on keeping their place at the public trough. too bad America!!!.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Other than RON PAUL Icannot think of any people in gov&#8217;t who represents the American peoples rights under the constitutions. Our politicians, upon being elected, immediately forget the oromises made and concentrate on keeping their place at the public trough. too bad America!!!.</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=831829', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pete Santiago</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/graham4/comment-page-2/#comment-831369</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Santiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, a consensus is growing in this great land of ours. We need to get this gang of thugs out of office.  Two more years of this un-checked power grabbing administration is much to much to endure.  Number 84&#039;s postings is broad outline of steps/measures we as a Nation must put in motion and carry out.  To quote Thomas Jefferson: &quot;Those who give up their liberties for the sake of security deserve neither liberty nor security&quot;.  Remember also that &quot;Those who control the present - control the past.  And those who control the past will control the future&quot; &lt;em&gt;George Orwell (1984)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, a consensus is growing in this great land of ours. We need to get this gang of thugs out of office.  Two more years of this un-checked power grabbing administration is much to much to endure.  Number 84&#8217;s postings is broad outline of steps/measures we as a Nation must put in motion and carry out.  To quote Thomas Jefferson: &#8220;Those who give up their liberties for the sake of security deserve neither liberty nor security&#8221;.  Remember also that &#8220;Those who control the present &#8211; control the past.  And those who control the past will control the future&#8221; <em>George Orwell (1984)</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=831369', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca  Broughton</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/graham4/comment-page-2/#comment-830752</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca  Broughton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been thinking for a very long time that the people in this country that call themselves conservative republicans are morally bankrupt to put up with the way Bush and the republican congress are operating this country. I do beleive that if the demorcrats were in office some of these law breaker that call themselves Christian Conservative would  be on top of buildings screaming for impeachment  for the Executive,Senate and The House Of Representatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been thinking for a very long time that the people in this country that call themselves conservative republicans are morally bankrupt to put up with the way Bush and the republican congress are operating this country. I do beleive that if the demorcrats were in office some of these law breaker that call themselves Christian Conservative would  be on top of buildings screaming for impeachment  for the Executive,Senate and The House Of Representatives.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=830752', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jonn D</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/graham4/comment-page-2/#comment-829739</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonn D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 16:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TIME TO ACT!
Remove the republican monopoly in November.
Start impeachment and war crime proceedings against Bush, Rumzy, ConuSleeza, Cheney and others known and unknown.

Abolish the Patriot Crap (Act).
Remove all politicians who resist.

Keep in mind Bush &amp; Company are not the only traitors to this once great republic. All those who signed the Patriot Crap (most without reading it) should be charged with dereliction of duty and publicly shamed. Many should be removed from office, others tried as conspirators(Pipe Dream? maybe). 
 
How could Bush get away with voter fraud, instigating a war, unwarranted wire tapping, surveillance and dismanteling of the constitution. Where was balance, reason, sanity and most importantly opposition within the house and senate?
Don&#039;t let these politicians tell you they were duped, if thats their defence they need to go.

This government has once again failed us and it will be business as usual unless we reastablish who the master and servants are. 


For those whom choose to do nothing let your children know this.

We have lost our great republic! Not a single shot was fired, what cowards are we.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TIME TO ACT!<br />
Remove the republican monopoly in November.<br />
Start impeachment and war crime proceedings against Bush, Rumzy, ConuSleeza, Cheney and others known and unknown.</p>
<p>Abolish the Patriot Crap (Act).<br />
Remove all politicians who resist.</p>
<p>Keep in mind Bush &amp; Company are not the only traitors to this once great republic. All those who signed the Patriot Crap (most without reading it) should be charged with dereliction of duty and publicly shamed. Many should be removed from office, others tried as conspirators(Pipe Dream? maybe). </p>
<p>How could Bush get away with voter fraud, instigating a war, unwarranted wire tapping, surveillance and dismanteling of the constitution. Where was balance, reason, sanity and most importantly opposition within the house and senate?<br />
Don&#8217;t let these politicians tell you they were duped, if thats their defence they need to go.</p>
<p>This government has once again failed us and it will be business as usual unless we reastablish who the master and servants are. </p>
<p>For those whom choose to do nothing let your children know this.</p>
<p>We have lost our great republic! Not a single shot was fired, what cowards are we.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=829739', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: nullSIR ENRICO GRANSE,ESQ.</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/graham4/comment-page-2/#comment-829473</link>
		<dc:creator>nullSIR ENRICO GRANSE,ESQ.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;THE MR BUSH THE FALSE PRESIDENT,MEANING THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN PRESIDENTLESS FOR ALMOST 6 LONG YEARS,SO THIS TRUE, TRUST ME IT IS,SO ALL THE PEOPLE HE HAS APPOINTED ARE NOT REALLY LEAGALLY THERE,SUCH AS THE CHIEF JUDGE OF THE SUPERM COURT,CASE CLOSE ON THIS MATTER. AS FORMER MARINE AND BUSH TRYING TO CHANGE THE GENIEVA CONVENTION, TO LIST TORTURE AND SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ALOWED, HE IS CRAZY AND HE IS OUT OF CONTROL. IMPECHMENT IS A MUST RIGHT NOW,WE CAN NOT AFORDE THIS WICKED CONDUCT TO BE AROUND UP. BUSH FORGET THE CHRIST SAID THE LEAST YOU DO UNTO YOUR BROTHER YOU HAVE DONE UNTO ME. ON THIS ONE THING HE IS WRONG ON THE BAD THINGS HE AND HIS PEOPLE HAVE DONE. HE HAS ADDED $3 TRILLION TO THE DEPT OF THE GREAT COUNTRY,MEANING THE NATIONS NOW OWES THE WORLD $8.2 TRILLION, AND IT IS BE ADDED TO THE RATE OF AROUND $19 BILLION A DAY.OK.THAT IS A WHOLE LOT OF MCYDESS.THIS CONDUCT IS NOT WHAT THE CHRIST WOLD EVER CONDONE,NO NEVER SO ARE THEY DOING THE WORK OF THE DEMONS, BUT THEY ARE. THEY ARE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEMONS, GOD SAYS TO HATE ALL THAT IS BAD, YES MEANING EVIL. YET THE BIBLE FURTHERESTATES  THAT ALL THAT IS LEGAL IS NOT LAWFULL. MEANING MANY LAWS ON THE BOOKS ARE NOT AGREEABLE IN THE EYES OF GOD. BESIDE 99% OF THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE ALL ILEAGAL,BECAUSE THEY DO NOT SUBCRIBE TO NATURAL LAW. OK. SO MAY YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>THE MR BUSH THE FALSE PRESIDENT,MEANING THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN PRESIDENTLESS FOR ALMOST 6 LONG YEARS,SO THIS TRUE, TRUST ME IT IS,SO ALL THE PEOPLE HE HAS APPOINTED ARE NOT REALLY LEAGALLY THERE,SUCH AS THE CHIEF JUDGE OF THE SUPERM COURT,CASE CLOSE ON THIS MATTER. AS FORMER MARINE AND BUSH TRYING TO CHANGE THE GENIEVA CONVENTION, TO LIST TORTURE AND SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ALOWED, HE IS CRAZY AND HE IS OUT OF CONTROL. IMPECHMENT IS A MUST RIGHT NOW,WE CAN NOT AFORDE THIS WICKED CONDUCT TO BE AROUND UP. BUSH FORGET THE CHRIST SAID THE LEAST YOU DO UNTO YOUR BROTHER YOU HAVE DONE UNTO ME. ON THIS ONE THING HE IS WRONG ON THE BAD THINGS HE AND HIS PEOPLE HAVE DONE. HE HAS ADDED $3 TRILLION TO THE DEPT OF THE GREAT COUNTRY,MEANING THE NATIONS NOW OWES THE WORLD $8.2 TRILLION, AND IT IS BE ADDED TO THE RATE OF AROUND $19 BILLION A DAY.OK.THAT IS A WHOLE LOT OF MCYDESS.THIS CONDUCT IS NOT WHAT THE CHRIST WOLD EVER CONDONE,NO NEVER SO ARE THEY DOING THE WORK OF THE DEMONS, BUT THEY ARE. THEY ARE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEMONS, GOD SAYS TO HATE ALL THAT IS BAD, YES MEANING EVIL. YET THE BIBLE FURTHERESTATES  THAT ALL THAT IS LEGAL IS NOT LAWFULL. MEANING MANY LAWS ON THE BOOKS ARE NOT AGREEABLE IN THE EYES OF GOD. BESIDE 99% OF THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE ALL ILEAGAL,BECAUSE THEY DO NOT SUBCRIBE TO NATURAL LAW. OK. SO MAY YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY.</em></strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=829473', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: StateEnemyLiterati</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/graham4/comment-page-2/#comment-827772</link>
		<dc:creator>StateEnemyLiterati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 03:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if the American justice system is usurped to the point where uprisings and civil war are caused to erupt? This is the black mark of countries whose thrones have been ruthlessly usurped by the opulent elites. The Inauguration Parade consisting of whitewashed tanks in the guise of limos, Uzi-bearing plainclothes SS-men, perimeter fencing, riot suppression squads in record numbers, even thus unable to keep eggs from striking the Presidential Panzerlimousine. Stolen elections, disenfranchised minorities, electoral fraud, collusion and corruption all through the supreme court, the senate, and the house of representatives, shady-sounding charismatically deceptive media talking heads, ever inflating in size as the screen gets bigger and bigger with bloted terror-journalism. Newspapers that leave the reader confused and bewildered, not knowing where to turn in response to the daily news. Secret masonic occultists consorting with other occultists, wearing the masks of religion to conceal their true intent. With a quote from Holy Writ, nefarity, death, and evil are brought about. Bush, today&#039;s wayward MacBeth, has done murder on Lady Liberty who is true and supreme ruler of all. Soon Birnam Wood must come to Dunsinane! 

We in Canada are aware of your plight in these last days of democracy, and will share in your fate inevitably. Your King is building a barrier wall along our southern border (your northern border) and we have no idea why this is. All that we seem to have found in the way of terrorists were a group of 17 teenage Canadianized Muslims who listened to rap music, had premarital sex, and happened to attend an official Canadian Army Cadets Camp, and were accused of having enrolled for terrorist training purposes when one of their group refused to sing &quot;God Save the Queen&quot; citing religious differences. Three tonnes of fertilizer and other assorted materials were then clandestinely planted in their houses, or else trumped up after the fact, to the end that the trial is delayed indefinitely and most of the original 17 have been released on bail, and are being vigorously monitored. But there is something intrinsically not beleivable in this official story. We have Stephen Harper (who Bush called &quot;Steve&quot;), a fundamentalist robotic nut who probably lost his virginity during some kind of a church 
service- or so he would have us beleive- so that he can &#039;enlighten&#039; us all by reverting the same sex marriage laws, civil liberties code and justice system back to the early 1940s and institute his own state sponsored religious brainwashing empire specializing in smoke and mirrors deception and layer upon layer of foul, capricious lies! He is the worst type of warmongering neoconservative Doctor Strangelove imaginable, with an unwavering agenda to subjugate the entire country to the tortures and oppression of his awful religion.

He favors the use of our long-standing military, renowned for fairness and integrity, to discredit our patriotic beliefs through the Afghanistan deception, where we have lost many of our people (although many less than th U.S. since we employ strategy and a bit of tact when we fight). He has ripped open sensitive issues that we had thought resolved, again gay marriage, mainly spewing drivel about how we must emulate our fathers in WWII and just blindly stumble off to be cannon fodder. He wears blase suits and speaks in an unwavering monotone voice with ZERO facial expressions. WWJD my ass.

Let&#039;s all move to the other side of the world, all at the same time, and give those Neocons a little Time Out from oppressing us to help them think about what they&#039;ve done. Go to Sweden and ask to be taken in as a refugee! I guarantee they&#039;ll have room for the number of people that will wake up to this travesty before it is too late- I estimate very few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the American justice system is usurped to the point where uprisings and civil war are caused to erupt? This is the black mark of countries whose thrones have been ruthlessly usurped by the opulent elites. The Inauguration Parade consisting of whitewashed tanks in the guise of limos, Uzi-bearing plainclothes SS-men, perimeter fencing, riot suppression squads in record numbers, even thus unable to keep eggs from striking the Presidential Panzerlimousine. Stolen elections, disenfranchised minorities, electoral fraud, collusion and corruption all through the supreme court, the senate, and the house of representatives, shady-sounding charismatically deceptive media talking heads, ever inflating in size as the screen gets bigger and bigger with bloted terror-journalism. Newspapers that leave the reader confused and bewildered, not knowing where to turn in response to the daily news. Secret masonic occultists consorting with other occultists, wearing the masks of religion to conceal their true intent. With a quote from Holy Writ, nefarity, death, and evil are brought about. Bush, today&#8217;s wayward MacBeth, has done murder on Lady Liberty who is true and supreme ruler of all. Soon Birnam Wood must come to Dunsinane! </p>
<p>We in Canada are aware of your plight in these last days of democracy, and will share in your fate inevitably. Your King is building a barrier wall along our southern border (your northern border) and we have no idea why this is. All that we seem to have found in the way of terrorists were a group of 17 teenage Canadianized Muslims who listened to rap music, had premarital sex, and happened to attend an official Canadian Army Cadets Camp, and were accused of having enrolled for terrorist training purposes when one of their group refused to sing &#8220;God Save the Queen&#8221; citing religious differences. Three tonnes of fertilizer and other assorted materials were then clandestinely planted in their houses, or else trumped up after the fact, to the end that the trial is delayed indefinitely and most of the original 17 have been released on bail, and are being vigorously monitored. But there is something intrinsically not beleivable in this official story. We have Stephen Harper (who Bush called &#8220;Steve&#8221;), a fundamentalist robotic nut who probably lost his virginity during some kind of a church<br />
service- or so he would have us beleive- so that he can &#8216;enlighten&#8217; us all by reverting the same sex marriage laws, civil liberties code and justice system back to the early 1940s and institute his own state sponsored religious brainwashing empire specializing in smoke and mirrors deception and layer upon layer of foul, capricious lies! He is the worst type of warmongering neoconservative Doctor Strangelove imaginable, with an unwavering agenda to subjugate the entire country to the tortures and oppression of his awful religion.</p>
<p>He favors the use of our long-standing military, renowned for fairness and integrity, to discredit our patriotic beliefs through the Afghanistan deception, where we have lost many of our people (although many less than th U.S. since we employ strategy and a bit of tact when we fight). He has ripped open sensitive issues that we had thought resolved, again gay marriage, mainly spewing drivel about how we must emulate our fathers in WWII and just blindly stumble off to be cannon fodder. He wears blase suits and speaks in an unwavering monotone voice with ZERO facial expressions. WWJD my ass.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s all move to the other side of the world, all at the same time, and give those Neocons a little Time Out from oppressing us to help them think about what they&#8217;ve done. Go to Sweden and ask to be taken in as a refugee! I guarantee they&#8217;ll have room for the number of people that will wake up to this travesty before it is too late- I estimate very few.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=827772', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pazooter</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 01:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the &quot;vague&quot; language of the GC would indeed describe our recent interrogation practices, it is therefore necessary to change the law because we do not torture. In other words, citizens, we have a choice. We can either torture people, or we can torture logic.  Well, actually we don&#039;t have a choice now. Maybe in November. Maybe we can win back the Americal we grew up in and have this criminal administration thrown in jail to a cell across the hall from Sadam and Osama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the &#8220;vague&#8221; language of the GC would indeed describe our recent interrogation practices, it is therefore necessary to change the law because we do not torture. In other words, citizens, we have a choice. We can either torture people, or we can torture logic.  Well, actually we don&#8217;t have a choice now. Maybe in November. Maybe we can win back the Americal we grew up in and have this criminal administration thrown in jail to a cell across the hall from Sadam and Osama.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=827252', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hopeonhorizon</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/graham4/comment-page-2/#comment-826799</link>
		<dc:creator>hopeonhorizon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS:  Infowars.com is like a strong cup of expresso for the sleepy.  Just straight facts which laws, legal documents and the horse&#039;s mouth &gt; (or I should say the horses&#039;s other end) back up (they are not ashamed of their crimes).  Reports what&#039;s really out there...without bends, omissions, cover ups or fairyland stories.  It&#039;s organic.  Replace your nightly news and turn to it for facts, before you become an Orwellian robot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS:  Infowars.com is like a strong cup of expresso for the sleepy.  Just straight facts which laws, legal documents and the horse&#8217;s mouth &gt; (or I should say the horses&#8217;s other end) back up (they are not ashamed of their crimes).  Reports what&#8217;s really out there&#8230;without bends, omissions, cover ups or fairyland stories.  It&#8217;s organic.  Replace your nightly news and turn to it for facts, before you become an Orwellian robot.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=826799', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hopeonhorizon</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/graham4/comment-page-2/#comment-826692</link>
		<dc:creator>hopeonhorizon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 22:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just crusin&#039; this board and find you all are really informed, unlike most sheeple.  I very rarely write on boards (maybe I&#039;ll start before free speech is TOTALLY illegal) but Liz opened a door that I just had to enter....
#51 Liz and all:  About us being politically &quot;saved&quot;:  I beg you to take heed and be careful....

We all must realize that all of this political excrement&gt;boloney&gt; will never, ever end (not in this nation or/nor any other)...it will just get worse until the true Savior comes...and He is NOT coming in the form of the soon-coming world leader of the EU.  Regardless of what some informed geniuses (I honestly respect and appreciate those political truth-tellers) are saying, there is absolutely no way that citizens can control the political future of this rock.  You realize this when you study the corrupt system for many years and don&#039;t have such a high IQ like Einstein that you have absolutely no common sense (again, thank God for geniuses of this world, though).  &lt;strong&gt;There is no stock in politics (it&#039;s been corrupt since its inception), because politics/politicians/societies are only a slave to the Law of Thermodynamics, &lt;/strong&gt;especially since we have such unbelievable modern technology (a lot of which is unknown to the general public.) It will only GET WORSE...(watch and see, then laugh).  Most everyone here knows that the more you know about what&#039;s going on throughout the entire globe (this includes &lt;em&gt;other nations), &lt;/em&gt;the more facts that you retain, the more you realize that we have &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;absolutely no control&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/em&gt;over it and the more depressing it gets and the more angry one becomes (real bad on your blood pressure).  &quot;With much wisdom comes much grief.&quot;  The only thing &lt;strong&gt;we CAN control &lt;/strong&gt;is the fact that we can actually get to the point where we &quot;get over&quot; these deceptive and satanic rulers of this world and their created policies/laws/tactics/operatives/upsidedown faux propaganda &quot;news&quot; casts/fairyland maitrix fronts/etc..etc... , which will continue until the bitter, ugly, henious, unimaginable end of MAN&#039;S reign over &quot;kingdoms&quot; (it&#039;s gonna get real rough folks...beyond imagination, everyone, so hold on).  It&#039;s a real wise thing to quit trying to find a &lt;strong&gt;POLITICAL SAVIOR &lt;/strong&gt;and get a real grasp on some real truth:  He&#039;s the Alpha and Omega.  Sorry, everyone, but this rock aint&#039; heaven.  You only get that when you die if you know the &lt;em&gt;real&lt;/em&gt; Rock.  Otherwise, dead people just hang with the dead criminals of this world for eternity after taken to court.  Not fun.  &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Final Note&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;: &lt;strong&gt;TORTURE POLICIES OF &quot;CAREFULLY PLACED&quot; CRIMINALS are a walk in the park&lt;/strong&gt; compared to Heaven&#039;s alternative.  Take heed while you can still breathe.  Love and Peace bros and sis&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just crusin&#8217; this board and find you all are really informed, unlike most sheeple.  I very rarely write on boards (maybe I&#8217;ll start before free speech is TOTALLY illegal) but Liz opened a door that I just had to enter&#8230;.<br />
#51 Liz and all:  About us being politically &#8220;saved&#8221;:  I beg you to take heed and be careful&#8230;.</p>
<p>We all must realize that all of this political excrement&gt;boloney&gt; will never, ever end (not in this nation or/nor any other)&#8230;it will just get worse until the true Savior comes&#8230;and He is NOT coming in the form of the soon-coming world leader of the EU.  Regardless of what some informed geniuses (I honestly respect and appreciate those political truth-tellers) are saying, there is absolutely no way that citizens can control the political future of this rock.  You realize this when you study the corrupt system for many years and don&#8217;t have such a high IQ like Einstein that you have absolutely no common sense (again, thank God for geniuses of this world, though).  <strong>There is no stock in politics (it&#8217;s been corrupt since its inception), because politics/politicians/societies are only a slave to the Law of Thermodynamics, </strong>especially since we have such unbelievable modern technology (a lot of which is unknown to the general public.) It will only GET WORSE&#8230;(watch and see, then laugh).  Most everyone here knows that the more you know about what&#8217;s going on throughout the entire globe (this includes <em>other nations), </em>the more facts that you retain, the more you realize that we have <em><strong>absolutely no control</strong> </em>over it and the more depressing it gets and the more angry one becomes (real bad on your blood pressure).  &#8220;With much wisdom comes much grief.&#8221;  The only thing <strong>we CAN control </strong>is the fact that we can actually get to the point where we &#8220;get over&#8221; these deceptive and satanic rulers of this world and their created policies/laws/tactics/operatives/upsidedown faux propaganda &#8220;news&#8221; casts/fairyland maitrix fronts/etc..etc&#8230; , which will continue until the bitter, ugly, henious, unimaginable end of MAN&#8217;S reign over &#8220;kingdoms&#8221; (it&#8217;s gonna get real rough folks&#8230;beyond imagination, everyone, so hold on).  It&#8217;s a real wise thing to quit trying to find a <strong>POLITICAL SAVIOR </strong>and get a real grasp on some real truth:  He&#8217;s the Alpha and Omega.  Sorry, everyone, but this rock aint&#8217; heaven.  You only get that when you die if you know the <em>real</em> Rock.  Otherwise, dead people just hang with the dead criminals of this world for eternity after taken to court.  Not fun.  <em><strong>Final Note</strong></em>: <strong>TORTURE POLICIES OF &#8220;CAREFULLY PLACED&#8221; CRIMINALS are a walk in the park</strong> compared to Heaven&#8217;s alternative.  Take heed while you can still breathe.  Love and Peace bros and sis&#8217;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=826692', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Make Them Accountable / And harder.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make Them Accountable / And harder.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sen. Graham: White House Held Military Lawyers In 5 Hour Meeting and â€˜Tried To Force Them To Sign A Prepared Statementâ€™ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Barillari pÃ¨re &#187; Blog Archive &#187; An empty room, a pair of handcuffs per JG, the New York Yellow Pages and as many dirty cops necessary would have probably convinced them.</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/graham4/comment-page-2/#comment-822593</link>
		<dc:creator>David Barillari pÃ¨re &#187; Blog Archive &#187; An empty room, a pair of handcuffs per JG, the New York Yellow Pages and as many dirty cops necessary would have probably convinced them.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Please find the story here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Please find the story here. [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=822593', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#29 Yes, Jim Haynes was nominated by GWB to sit on the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. Sen. Graham has also appearantly been blocking him from a vote in Judiciary committee. The &quot;conservatives&quot; want him to be confirmed regardless of his record and want the President to have all the power he claims so they are very upset with Sen. Graham&#039;s stance on the detainees. This torture/detainee issue is tied to the Haynes nomination because he is the current Defense Department General Counsel.

#55 The way I understand it the plan that passed would not provide cover for the questionable methods that are occuring because there is no CIA loophole like there was originally. This plan also allows for a judge to determine the evidence that will be used and not used. If the judge decides the evidence being given to the suspect or his lawyer would compromise security then that evidence will automatically be disqualified from consideration during the trial.

The president&#039;s original plan would have allowed the questionable tactics to continue because it allowed for the CIA secret prisons and the government, not a judge to decide what evidence would not be shown to the suspect.

#73 The states do license lawyers but they must pass a multistate exam becasue you can take a license from South Carolina and recieve a virginia bar card because of recoprocity. The JAGs also take federal exams inorder to practice before the federal courts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#29 Yes, Jim Haynes was nominated by GWB to sit on the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. Sen. Graham has also appearantly been blocking him from a vote in Judiciary committee. The &#8220;conservatives&#8221; want him to be confirmed regardless of his record and want the President to have all the power he claims so they are very upset with Sen. Graham&#8217;s stance on the detainees. This torture/detainee issue is tied to the Haynes nomination because he is the current Defense Department General Counsel.</p>
<p>#55 The way I understand it the plan that passed would not provide cover for the questionable methods that are occuring because there is no CIA loophole like there was originally. This plan also allows for a judge to determine the evidence that will be used and not used. If the judge decides the evidence being given to the suspect or his lawyer would compromise security then that evidence will automatically be disqualified from consideration during the trial.</p>
<p>The president&#8217;s original plan would have allowed the questionable tactics to continue because it allowed for the CIA secret prisons and the government, not a judge to decide what evidence would not be shown to the suspect.</p>
<p>#73 The states do license lawyers but they must pass a multistate exam becasue you can take a license from South Carolina and recieve a virginia bar card because of recoprocity. The JAGs also take federal exams inorder to practice before the federal courts.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=822579', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Grumpasaurus.com &#187; Oh, to hell with it</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grumpasaurus.com &#187; Oh, to hell with it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Well, as part of this &#8220;let&#8217;s redefine torture to be A-OK!&#8221; strategery the Busheviks attempted to pressure the military lawyers to agree to the redefinition. So they could brag about it as authorized. It didn&#8217;t go over so well. But during todayâ€™s White House press conference, a reporter cited comments by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) â€” a former JAG and an opponent of the Bushâ€™s detainee policies â€” claiming that the White House had placed extreme pressure on the military lawyers to sign a statement, and that the lawyers had refused to sign the initial statement crafted for them by the White House [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Well, as part of this &#8220;let&#8217;s redefine torture to be A-OK!&#8221; strategery the Busheviks attempted to pressure the military lawyers to agree to the redefinition. So they could brag about it as authorized. It didn&#8217;t go over so well. But during todayâ€™s White House press conference, a reporter cited comments by Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) â€” a former JAG and an opponent of the Bushâ€™s detainee policies â€” claiming that the White House had placed extreme pressure on the military lawyers to sign a statement, and that the lawyers had refused to sign the initial statement crafted for them by the White House [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=821954', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MarySavoca</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarySavoca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&quot;s not be too fast to accept the McCain, Warner ,Graham ,effort until we have digested it. The Jag letters could be another ruse to
pass what the Prez wants. They sound good but always vote lockstep.
Nana</description>
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pass what the Prez wants. They sound good but always vote lockstep.<br />
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