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	<title>Comments on: Franken: Air America Not Filing For Bankruptcy Today</title>
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		<title>By: dwight</title>
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		<dc:creator>dwight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Air America Bankrupt?  Why would you say such a thing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Air America Bankrupt?  Why would you say such a thing!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=991394', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Vince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every other news source, (aside from this pathetic one) confirms that Air America WILL IN FACT BE FILING CHAPTER 11.  Bye bye Al...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every other news source, (aside from this pathetic one) confirms that Air America WILL IN FACT BE FILING CHAPTER 11.  Bye bye Al&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=985977', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Homer+Simpson</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/15/franken-no-bankruptcy/comment-page-3/#comment-850040</link>
		<dc:creator>Homer+Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 03:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Danny Thomas, I think I&#039;ll now vote for ALGORE... 

That lard butt could end global warming tomorrow if he&#039;d stop spewing the 
warm swill out of his pie hole! 

  Nice line up. Gore, Hillary, Ned Lamont, Harry Reed, Pancy Pelosi. Yea, with that Martian crew running the country, I&#039;d sleep real good at night....  

  Who&#039;d France have to call on when the crap hits the fan?

Hello...Mc Fly!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Danny Thomas, I think I&#8217;ll now vote for ALGORE&#8230; </p>
<p>That lard butt could end global warming tomorrow if he&#8217;d stop spewing the<br />
warm swill out of his pie hole! </p>
<p>  Nice line up. Gore, Hillary, Ned Lamont, Harry Reed, Pancy Pelosi. Yea, with that Martian crew running the country, I&#8217;d sleep real good at night&#8230;.  </p>
<p>  Who&#8217;d France have to call on when the crap hits the fan?</p>
<p>Hello&#8230;Mc Fly!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=850040', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Thomas</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/15/franken-no-bankruptcy/comment-page-3/#comment-837532</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 03:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops.  Missed that one, didn&#039;t you folks?

While I frequently criticize the astonishing incompetance of AAR&#039;s management, the radio network is the most valuable source of information available to us today.  It truly is a Godsend, and combined with the presence of the blogs and the internet, gives us a real opportunity to properly inform Americans.

Hopefully, we&#039;ll be able to stem the tide of American Fascism and salvage the republic before it&#039;s too late.

Oh, btw, I don&#039;t have the heart to tell our friend Homer Simpson that Rudy is a supporter of abortion and gay rights.  Oops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops.  Missed that one, didn&#8217;t you folks?</p>
<p>While I frequently criticize the astonishing incompetance of AAR&#8217;s management, the radio network is the most valuable source of information available to us today.  It truly is a Godsend, and combined with the presence of the blogs and the internet, gives us a real opportunity to properly inform Americans.</p>
<p>Hopefully, we&#8217;ll be able to stem the tide of American Fascism and salvage the republic before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
<p>Oh, btw, I don&#8217;t have the heart to tell our friend Homer Simpson that Rudy is a supporter of abortion and gay rights.  Oops.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=837532', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Homer+Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homer+Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Al, don&#039;t forget to turn the lights off on the way out....
 Baaa Haaaa!!


   FYI. AA WILL declare BK, in that way, they will not have to pay back creditors and especially The Boys &amp; Girls club....Pretty sad for people who are supposed to care  Then, they will reorganize, blame the &quot;vast right wing conspiracy&quot; on their past failures and go on with thier hatefilled diatribes, not learning or addapting to the free market.

  Thank God (inwhich ironically they don&#039;t believe) for the courts, for again, that&#039;s the only way the left get&#039;s any victories since they always get pasted at the ballot box.

  (Check out your leftist bud&#039;s in Mexico, they lose, can&#039;t accept defeat and they will probably send that county even deeper into the abyss)

Rudy in 2008!!!

 Take that Bee-outch!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Al, don&#8217;t forget to turn the lights off on the way out&#8230;.<br />
 Baaa Haaaa!!</p>
<p>   FYI. AA WILL declare BK, in that way, they will not have to pay back creditors and especially The Boys &amp; Girls club&#8230;.Pretty sad for people who are supposed to care  Then, they will reorganize, blame the &#8220;vast right wing conspiracy&#8221; on their past failures and go on with thier hatefilled diatribes, not learning or addapting to the free market.</p>
<p>  Thank God (inwhich ironically they don&#8217;t believe) for the courts, for again, that&#8217;s the only way the left get&#8217;s any victories since they always get pasted at the ballot box.</p>
<p>  (Check out your leftist bud&#8217;s in Mexico, they lose, can&#8217;t accept defeat and they will probably send that county even deeper into the abyss)</p>
<p>Rudy in 2008!!!</p>
<p> Take that Bee-outch!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=835616', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/15/franken-no-bankruptcy/comment-page-3/#comment-835330</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got so much enjoyment from the intellectually stimulating, thought provoking commentary:

Rove...that Bastard
O&#039;Reilly... that bastard
Limbaugh... that bastard

And the hillarity!!  I could listen for hours and hours on end.  Its shuch a shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got so much enjoyment from the intellectually stimulating, thought provoking commentary:</p>
<p>Rove&#8230;that Bastard<br />
O&#8217;Reilly&#8230; that bastard<br />
Limbaugh&#8230; that bastard</p>
<p>And the hillarity!!  I could listen for hours and hours on end.  Its shuch a shame.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=835330', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Seth II</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bernard - #120,

So a person is only allowed to take a position different from yours if they are currently in combat???  That&#039;s as stupid as me telling you to go join the terrorists in Iraq if you are so against the war.  You&#039;d have a palpatation.  Grow up and become as open-minded as you pretend to be.</description>
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<p>So a person is only allowed to take a position different from yours if they are currently in combat???  That&#8217;s as stupid as me telling you to go join the terrorists in Iraq if you are so against the war.  You&#8217;d have a palpatation.  Grow up and become as open-minded as you pretend to be.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=834019', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 06:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Of all the moves AA could make , getting rid of Springer stands out. The guy has been nothing but an anchor on the network. He knows nothing about polotics . He had no guests on. He reveled in anything that had to do with his own tittilation and MSM b.s. . I almost went insane when he had to tell us about how he got stood up for his high school prom every spring. You gotta give the girl some credit for taste though. 
 My only regret is that Stephanie Miller isn&#039;t available for the morning slot but anything beats Jerry the putz.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Of all the moves AA could make , getting rid of Springer stands out. The guy has been nothing but an anchor on the network. He knows nothing about polotics . He had no guests on. He reveled in anything that had to do with his own tittilation and MSM b.s. . I almost went insane when he had to tell us about how he got stood up for his high school prom every spring. You gotta give the girl some credit for taste though.<br />
 My only regret is that Stephanie Miller isn&#8217;t available for the morning slot but anything beats Jerry the putz.</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=832535', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/15/franken-no-bankruptcy/comment-page-3/#comment-832299</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 04:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when are the caring, compasionate, deep thinking, high minded, tolerant libs at Air America going to return the $825,000 to the Boys and Girls Club? Perhaps if those kids had been aborted they wouldn&#039;t need the money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when are the caring, compasionate, deep thinking, high minded, tolerant libs at Air America going to return the $825,000 to the Boys and Girls Club? Perhaps if those kids had been aborted they wouldn&#8217;t need the money?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=832299', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 04:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, good effort.  Seth et. al. - what are you yellow elephants doing in the USA?  Your leader needs you in Iraq.  Get thee hence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, good effort.  Seth et. al. &#8211; what are you yellow elephants doing in the USA?  Your leader needs you in Iraq.  Get thee hence.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=832196', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Considerettes - Conservative commentary served up in bite-sized bits &#187; Liberal Website Retracts Story - Al Franken Blames Conservatives</title>
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		<dc:creator>Considerettes - Conservative commentary served up in bite-sized bits &#187; Liberal Website Retracts Story - Al Franken Blames Conservatives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 03:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Liberal Website Retracts Story - Al Franken Blames Conservatives   By Doug Think Progress has retracted its story on rumors that Air American Radio was going to file for bankruptcy. Now, TP is most definitely on the left side of the political spectrum, but check out their quote from Al Franken. Despite reports the liberal talk network would file for bankruptcy protection by week&#8217;s end &#8212; that apparently isn&#8217;t happening. Franken tells listeners &#8220;we&#8217;re not in Chapter 11? and pokes at conservative talk hosts and websites for getting it wrong with quips like &#8220;who&#8217;s gloating now Bill O&#8217;Reilly?&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Liberal Website Retracts Story &#8211; Al Franken Blames Conservatives   By Doug Think Progress has retracted its story on rumors that Air American Radio was going to file for bankruptcy. Now, TP is most definitely on the left side of the political spectrum, but check out their quote from Al Franken. Despite reports the liberal talk network would file for bankruptcy protection by week&rsquo;s end &#8212; that apparently isn&rsquo;t happening. Franken tells listeners &#8220;we&rsquo;re not in Chapter 11? and pokes at conservative talk hosts and websites for getting it wrong with quips like &#8220;who&rsquo;s gloating now Bill O&rsquo;Reilly?&#8221; [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=832156', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey+DeWitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey+DeWitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opps, sorry about the dual post...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opps, sorry about the dual post&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=831621', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey DeWitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey DeWitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Still gotta wonder why half of the AAR affiliate stations which are owned by Clear Channel are not promoted by the billboards of which CC owns the majority. There were two in Los Angeles (one on top of the ABC radio station - gotcha!) when they first went on the air, and I kept looking for more. A billboard campaign would catapult the ratings of these stations by funneling in listeners.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Then let AA pay for the billboard campaign.  Radio stations support shows that they pay for, thatâ€™s why you will see billboards for Rush, AFAIK all the stations carrying AA are being paid to do it, radio stations typically donâ€™t pay to advertise programming like that.



&lt;blockquote&gt;There is no excuse to be that ignorant of the truth. Jeff, the rightwing radio phenom has been funded by Richard Scaife, Adolph (ahem) Coors, the Heritage Foundation, AEI, et al. Itâ€™s been a 30 effort.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



So?  They invested because they expected to make a profit, that what business does.  The investors in Rush have certainly made their money back and a very nice profit besides!

Right wing talk isnâ€™t a loss leader, itâ€™s not an advertising campaign, it is and successful because it MAKES MONEY.

The bottom line is the bottom line, if something makes money we see more of it, doesnâ€™t matter if itâ€™s conservative talk, reality TV or overpriced sneakers being pushed by some NBA star.  Liberal talk hasnâ€™t found itâ€™s voice yet, hopefully at some point it will, but it hasnâ€™t yet.

Jeff DeWitt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Still gotta wonder why half of the AAR affiliate stations which are owned by Clear Channel are not promoted by the billboards of which CC owns the majority. There were two in Los Angeles (one on top of the ABC radio station &#8211; gotcha!) when they first went on the air, and I kept looking for more. A billboard campaign would catapult the ratings of these stations by funneling in listeners.</p></blockquote>
<p>Then let AA pay for the billboard campaign.  Radio stations support shows that they pay for, thatâ€™s why you will see billboards for Rush, AFAIK all the stations carrying AA are being paid to do it, radio stations typically donâ€™t pay to advertise programming like that.</p>
<blockquote><p>There is no excuse to be that ignorant of the truth. Jeff, the rightwing radio phenom has been funded by Richard Scaife, Adolph (ahem) Coors, the Heritage Foundation, AEI, et al. Itâ€™s been a 30 effort.</p></blockquote>
<p>So?  They invested because they expected to make a profit, that what business does.  The investors in Rush have certainly made their money back and a very nice profit besides!</p>
<p>Right wing talk isnâ€™t a loss leader, itâ€™s not an advertising campaign, it is and successful because it MAKES MONEY.</p>
<p>The bottom line is the bottom line, if something makes money we see more of it, doesnâ€™t matter if itâ€™s conservative talk, reality TV or overpriced sneakers being pushed by some NBA star.  Liberal talk hasnâ€™t found itâ€™s voice yet, hopefully at some point it will, but it hasnâ€™t yet.</p>
<p>Jeff DeWitt<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=831608', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey DeWitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey DeWitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Still gotta wonder why half of the AAR affiliate stations which are owned by Clear Channel are not promoted by the billboards of which CC owns the majority. There were two in Los Angeles (one on top of the ABC radio station - gotcha!) when they first went on the air, and I kept looking for more. A billboard campaign would catapult the ratings of these stations by funneling in listeners.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Then let AA pay for the billboard campaign.  Radio stations support shows that they pay for, thatâ€™s why you will see billboards for Rush, AFAIK all the stations carrying AA are being paid to do it, radio stations typically donâ€™t pay to advertise programming like that.


&lt;blockquote&gt;
There is no excuse to be that ignorant of the truth. Jeff, the rightwing radio phenom has been funded by Richard Scaife, Adolph (ahem) Coors, the Heritage Foundation, AEI, et al. Itâ€™s been a 30 effort.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So?  They invested because they expected to make a profit, that what business does.  The investors in Rush have certainly made their money back and a very nice profit besides!

Right wing talk isnâ€™t a loss leader, itâ€™s not an advertising campaign, it is and successful because it MAKES MONEY.

The bottom line is the bottom line, if something makes money we see more of it, doesnâ€™t matter if itâ€™s conservative talk, reality TV or overpriced sneakers being pushed by some NBA star.  Liberal talk hasnâ€™t found itâ€™s voice yet, hopefully at some point it will, but it hasnâ€™t yet.

Jeff DeWitt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Still gotta wonder why half of the AAR affiliate stations which are owned by Clear Channel are not promoted by the billboards of which CC owns the majority. There were two in Los Angeles (one on top of the ABC radio station &#8211; gotcha!) when they first went on the air, and I kept looking for more. A billboard campaign would catapult the ratings of these stations by funneling in listeners.</p></blockquote>
<p>Then let AA pay for the billboard campaign.  Radio stations support shows that they pay for, thatâ€™s why you will see billboards for Rush, AFAIK all the stations carrying AA are being paid to do it, radio stations typically donâ€™t pay to advertise programming like that.</p>
<blockquote><p>
There is no excuse to be that ignorant of the truth. Jeff, the rightwing radio phenom has been funded by Richard Scaife, Adolph (ahem) Coors, the Heritage Foundation, AEI, et al. Itâ€™s been a 30 effort.</p></blockquote>
<p>So?  They invested because they expected to make a profit, that what business does.  The investors in Rush have certainly made their money back and a very nice profit besides!</p>
<p>Right wing talk isnâ€™t a loss leader, itâ€™s not an advertising campaign, it is and successful because it MAKES MONEY.</p>
<p>The bottom line is the bottom line, if something makes money we see more of it, doesnâ€™t matter if itâ€™s conservative talk, reality TV or overpriced sneakers being pushed by some NBA star.  Liberal talk hasnâ€™t found itâ€™s voice yet, hopefully at some point it will, but it hasnâ€™t yet.</p>
<p>Jeff DeWitt<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=831604', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Seth II</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding PNAC, is it really any surprise that policies proposed by a conservative think tank would be fairly highly regarded by a conservative-majority government?  The day that Progressives are sworn in as the leadership of this country I fully expect PNAC to be out on its ear and Center for American Progress, among other organizations, to become highly regarded.  Will the conservatives howl about it and propagate conspiracy theories?  I kind of doubt it.  Even when Clinton was President, the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy(TM) charge was thrown about.  It seems the left requires conspiracy theories in order to make a case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding PNAC, is it really any surprise that policies proposed by a conservative think tank would be fairly highly regarded by a conservative-majority government?  The day that Progressives are sworn in as the leadership of this country I fully expect PNAC to be out on its ear and Center for American Progress, among other organizations, to become highly regarded.  Will the conservatives howl about it and propagate conspiracy theories?  I kind of doubt it.  Even when Clinton was President, the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy(TM) charge was thrown about.  It seems the left requires conspiracy theories in order to make a case.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=830735', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Seth II</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/15/franken-no-bankruptcy/comment-page-3/#comment-830631</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay,

That WaPo column you linked was an editorial, not a hard news article.  A lot of the language and argument are purely suppositional.

Furthermore, the editorial states in no uncertain terms Rove is &quot;the culprit.&quot;  When it was written in July of last year that was widely suspected.  But now we know that it is not the truth.  The culprit has now admitted his actions, and yet nobody (including those of you here who were the most up in arms) is calling for his dismissal and charging.  Why is that???

BECAUSE YOU WANT ROVE!  You&#039;re not getting him, not on this issue anyway.  But you want him so badly that you&#039;re willing to cite an EDITORIAL that is now horribly OUTDATED as proof of his &quot;crime&quot;.  This is what I meant when I said that many Progressives tend to consider suppositions as facts.  I didn&#039;t realize how strongly those suppositions would stick even in the face of contradictory factual revelations.

You asked how Joe Wilson was inaccurate?  From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.factcheck.org/article337.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FactCheck.org&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;July 6, 2003 â€“ Wilson publishes &quot; What I didnâ€™t find in Africa&quot; in The New York Times, identifying himself for the first time as the unnamed â€œenvoy.â€ He writes, â€œI have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq &#039;s nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat.â€ &lt;strong&gt;Wilson does not mention that he learned there was a possibility Iraq had sought uranium during a 1999 trade meeting with Niger â€™s former Prime Minister.&lt;/strong&gt;[Emphasis added]

Contrary to later statements by White House officials, Wilson does not claim that Cheney sent him on the Niger trip, only that he was sent to answer questions from Cheneyâ€™s â€œoffice.â€ He also doesnâ€™t claim that Cheney was told of his findings, only that it would be â€œstandard operating procedureâ€ for the CIA to brief Cheneyâ€™s office on the results of his mission. (Wilson, &quot; What I didnâ€™t find, New York Times July 6, 2003).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Notice that Wilson&#039;s omission (in bold) affects his main thesis: that there was known to be no uranium sought by Iraq from Niger.  In fact, he himself found that there quite possibly WAS uranium sought by Iraq from Niger!

I quoted the entire entry to hopefully avoid accusations of &quot;cherry-picking&quot;.  Yes, the second paragraph states that White House officials&#039; statements were also inaccurate.  So there we have it.  Nobody is an angel.  Nobody is holding Rove up as an angel, just disproving that he&#039;s the Devil.  You would be wiser to not consider Wilson infallible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,</p>
<p>That WaPo column you linked was an editorial, not a hard news article.  A lot of the language and argument are purely suppositional.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the editorial states in no uncertain terms Rove is &#8220;the culprit.&#8221;  When it was written in July of last year that was widely suspected.  But now we know that it is not the truth.  The culprit has now admitted his actions, and yet nobody (including those of you here who were the most up in arms) is calling for his dismissal and charging.  Why is that???</p>
<p>BECAUSE YOU WANT ROVE!  You&#8217;re not getting him, not on this issue anyway.  But you want him so badly that you&#8217;re willing to cite an EDITORIAL that is now horribly OUTDATED as proof of his &#8220;crime&#8221;.  This is what I meant when I said that many Progressives tend to consider suppositions as facts.  I didn&#8217;t realize how strongly those suppositions would stick even in the face of contradictory factual revelations.</p>
<p>You asked how Joe Wilson was inaccurate?  From <a href="http://www.factcheck.org/article337.html" rel="nofollow">FactCheck.org</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>July 6, 2003 â€“ Wilson publishes &#8221; What I didnâ€™t find in Africa&#8221; in The New York Times, identifying himself for the first time as the unnamed â€œenvoy.â€ He writes, â€œI have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq &#8217;s nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat.â€ <strong>Wilson does not mention that he learned there was a possibility Iraq had sought uranium during a 1999 trade meeting with Niger â€™s former Prime Minister.</strong>[Emphasis added]</p>
<p>Contrary to later statements by White House officials, Wilson does not claim that Cheney sent him on the Niger trip, only that he was sent to answer questions from Cheneyâ€™s â€œoffice.â€ He also doesnâ€™t claim that Cheney was told of his findings, only that it would be â€œstandard operating procedureâ€ for the CIA to brief Cheneyâ€™s office on the results of his mission. (Wilson, &#8221; What I didnâ€™t find, New York Times July 6, 2003).</p></blockquote>
<p>Notice that Wilson&#8217;s omission (in bold) affects his main thesis: that there was known to be no uranium sought by Iraq from Niger.  In fact, he himself found that there quite possibly WAS uranium sought by Iraq from Niger!</p>
<p>I quoted the entire entry to hopefully avoid accusations of &#8220;cherry-picking&#8221;.  Yes, the second paragraph states that White House officials&#8217; statements were also inaccurate.  So there we have it.  Nobody is an angel.  Nobody is holding Rove up as an angel, just disproving that he&#8217;s the Devil.  You would be wiser to not consider Wilson infallible.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=830631', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/15/franken-no-bankruptcy/comment-page-3/#comment-829506</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The misinformation from the righties at the tail end of thi thread is astonishing. 
There is no excuse to be that ignorant of the truth. Jeff, the rightwing radio phenom has been funded by Richard Scaife, Adolph (ahem) Coors, the Heritage Foundation, AEI, et al. It&#039;s been a 30 effort.

As for providing links, would you dimwits prefer to read the story as written by journalists or not? Is it the reading that you hhave trouble with? i&#039;m asking that sincerely. 

Are you people really this deluded? This country is in deep fuc*in trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The misinformation from the righties at the tail end of thi thread is astonishing.<br />
There is no excuse to be that ignorant of the truth. Jeff, the rightwing radio phenom has been funded by Richard Scaife, Adolph (ahem) Coors, the Heritage Foundation, AEI, et al. It&#8217;s been a 30 effort.</p>
<p>As for providing links, would you dimwits prefer to read the story as written by journalists or not? Is it the reading that you hhave trouble with? i&#8217;m asking that sincerely. </p>
<p>Are you people really this deluded? This country is in deep fuc*in trouble.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=829506', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey DeWitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey DeWitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m about as conservative as they come (proud to say I&#039;ve voted for Jesse Helms three times) and while I passed along the Think Progress story about Air America&#039;s impending bankruptcy to the local site where we argue about politics it was with very mixed feelings.

When AA does inevitably shut down it will be to bad, not only is it a needed alternative to (the far superior) conservative talk but when it shuts down it will cause many of the lefties to start whining for the return of the &quot;Fairness Doctrine&quot; (and further repeal of free speech).

If AA (or it&#039;s successor is going to work) you have to come up with a real business plan.  NO ONE on the right PAYS to have their broadcast carried, radio stations pay a LOT of money to carry Rush, Hannity, and Boortz, and they pay it because people like to listen to those guys.

You lefties need to come up with shows that people really want to listen to, once you have people listening than advertisers will be willing to pay good money to advertise on your shows.

Jeff DeWitt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m about as conservative as they come (proud to say I&#8217;ve voted for Jesse Helms three times) and while I passed along the Think Progress story about Air America&#8217;s impending bankruptcy to the local site where we argue about politics it was with very mixed feelings.</p>
<p>When AA does inevitably shut down it will be to bad, not only is it a needed alternative to (the far superior) conservative talk but when it shuts down it will cause many of the lefties to start whining for the return of the &#8220;Fairness Doctrine&#8221; (and further repeal of free speech).</p>
<p>If AA (or it&#8217;s successor is going to work) you have to come up with a real business plan.  NO ONE on the right PAYS to have their broadcast carried, radio stations pay a LOT of money to carry Rush, Hannity, and Boortz, and they pay it because people like to listen to those guys.</p>
<p>You lefties need to come up with shows that people really want to listen to, once you have people listening than advertisers will be willing to pay good money to advertise on your shows.</p>
<p>Jeff DeWitt<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=829475', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason+M.+Hendler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason+M.+Hendler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A conservative on this blog must always remember that progs throw around links like fundamentalist Christians throw around Bible versus - who needs sound rational argument, when you can just quote from your own scripture, which progs write and rewrite daily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A conservative on this blog must always remember that progs throw around links like fundamentalist Christians throw around Bible versus &#8211; who needs sound rational argument, when you can just quote from your own scripture, which progs write and rewrite daily.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=829345', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bonesTwo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/15/franken-no-bankruptcy/comment-page-3/#comment-827768</link>
		<dc:creator>bonesTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 03:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another horrible link to support your argument. 

First of all - it is an article dated 7/13/2005. A few thing have happened since then, most notably:

1. No charges against Rove
2. NOBODY charged with outing a CIA officer
3. Armitage admits he was the leak

Secondly - this article is filled with the kind of spewing hate that you love in sentences like ..

Roveâ€¦&lt;em&gt;Heâ€™s also the kind of ethically unconstrained guy Bush has wanted around when the going gets tough&lt;/em&gt;... and then goes to cite the following evidence of thatâ€¦â€¦â€¦NONE. And &lt;em&gt;itâ€™s not just Rove whoâ€™s been caught up in the coverup&lt;/em&gt; - Well, now we know there wasnt anything to cover up, since they did nothing illegal, at least according to Fitzgerald. 

At least this article waited until like the 6th or 7th paragraph to mention Watergate. With all the panting going on in the media (and Iâ€™m sure your basement) in July 2005 it must have sounded like prom in yuppie Georgetown bars. 

Why donâ€™t you check out this link Jay:

http://this.is.just.a.link.to.make.it.look.like.i.know.what.im.talking.about/ but.the.truth.is.that.i.dont.have.a.clue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another horrible link to support your argument. </p>
<p>First of all &#8211; it is an article dated 7/13/2005. A few thing have happened since then, most notably:</p>
<p>1. No charges against Rove<br />
2. NOBODY charged with outing a CIA officer<br />
3. Armitage admits he was the leak</p>
<p>Secondly &#8211; this article is filled with the kind of spewing hate that you love in sentences like ..</p>
<p>Roveâ€¦<em>Heâ€™s also the kind of ethically unconstrained guy Bush has wanted around when the going gets tough</em>&#8230; and then goes to cite the following evidence of thatâ€¦â€¦â€¦NONE. And <em>itâ€™s not just Rove whoâ€™s been caught up in the coverup</em> &#8211; Well, now we know there wasnt anything to cover up, since they did nothing illegal, at least according to Fitzgerald. </p>
<p>At least this article waited until like the 6th or 7th paragraph to mention Watergate. With all the panting going on in the media (and Iâ€™m sure your basement) in July 2005 it must have sounded like prom in yuppie Georgetown bars. </p>
<p>Why donâ€™t you check out this link Jay:</p>
<p><a href="http://this.is.just.a.link.to.make.it.look.like.i.know.what.im.talking.about/" rel="nofollow">http://this.is.just.a.link.to.make.it.look.like.i.know.what.im.talking.about/</a> but.the.truth.is.that.i.dont.have.a.clue<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=827768', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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