Path to 9/11 Writer Slams Critics, Defends Movie As Totally Accurate
Path to 9/11 Writer Slams Critics, Defends Movie As Totally Accurate
In today’s Wall Street Journal, Path to 9/11 writer Cyrus Nowrasteh defends his screenplay as accurate. Nowrasteh writes:
I felt duty-bound from the outset to focus on a single goal–to represent our recent pre-9/11 history as the evidence revealed it to be. The American people deserve to know that history: They have paid for it in blood…Fact-checkers and lawyers scrutinized every detail, every line, every scene. There were hundreds of pages of annotations.
ABC’s claimed inaccurate material was included because Path to 9/11 was a “docudrama.” It’s clear now that was just spin. The people who created the film regard it as “the truth” and it was marketed as such. Nowrasteh doesn’t address the multiple glaring inaccuracies in the film, including:
– A scene where former National Security advisor Sandy Berger pulls the plug on a clear chance to take out Osama Bin Laden. According to the 9/11 Commission report, this never happened.
– A scene where Madeleine Albright overrules military commanders and insists on informing the Pakistanis about a missile strike on a suspected Bin Laden hideout. According to the 9/11 Commission Report, this never happened.
– A scene indicating Bush demanded aggressive action after receiving the August 6 Presidential Daily Brief entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US.” According to Condoleezza Rice’s testimony before the 9/11 commission, this never happened.
Nowrasteh dismisses criticism of the movie as “politically driven hysteria.” He doesn’t mention that many prominent conservatives — including Bill Bennett, Bill O’Reilly and Brent Bozell — criticized the film for factual inaccuracies.
Norwasteh also denies he is a “political conservative.” He has a funny way of showing it. He described himself in an interview as “more of a libertarian than a strict conservative.” Last year, Nowrasteh spoke on a panel titled, “Rebels With a Cause: How Conservatives Can Lead Hollywood’s Next Paradigm Shift.” In advance of Path to 9/11 he gave interviews to a variety of right-wing websites.
In short, Nowrasteh’s defense of Path to 9/11 is about as accurate as the film itself.
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It’s all true….Winston Smith wrote the final draft himself.
September 18th, 2006 at 9:52 amFact-checked and accurate? Must be an alternate reality thing, maybe a parallel universe slightly akimbo to ours.
September 18th, 2006 at 9:56 amWe make history. We leave it to you in the so-called “reality-based” community to talk about it.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:00 amI’m really angry that Pres. Clinton and Madeliene Albright haven’t sued.
Screw taking the high road anymore
September 18th, 2006 at 10:01 am(guess I’m a little cranky this morning…)
This guy is suffering from dementia at an early age.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:03 amHe has lousy fact checkers and lawyers apparently.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:03 amLiar or idiot? Which is it?
Yeesh. It’s as if they think there are no internets. Google? What’s that?
Either that, or they just don’t freaking care. I lie, therefore I am.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:04 amI realize that it is not 100% accurate, but I saw the movie and it was the first time I realized that it wasn’t Bush who caused all this mess. He has just been reacting to it. I feel like I’ve been feed a bunch of lies. Explain to me, if evil Bush cause all this to happen, how come the attacks began before his administration?
September 18th, 2006 at 10:11 amLike the Bushwacker(think of that anyway you choose)this guy can’t be wrong. He is a neocon and neocons are never wrong. It is everyone else who is wrong.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:12 amLike the rest of the pack, truth is whatever anyone individual neocon says it is at the moment. Objective truth, verifiable facts et al are for wimps and liberals.
All these clowns will have a great time in Hell where they will be talking to the choir.
So your saying he used Dan Rather’s fact checker? Oh, I’m sorry, I did not realized there is a monopoly on agendas.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:19 am#8 I’m not sure your loaded question is really asking anything. What are you really wanting to know?
September 18th, 2006 at 10:19 amHe might actually not be a conservative, just a hack (or maybe a neocon hack).
Recall that he got this gig after the director read his script for the 2001 Showtime propudrama “The Day Reagan Was Shot”.
Former Reagan officials called that one “fiction” as well.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:21 amI watched the whole thing and found it matched the 9/11 commission report pretty accurately.
There is plenty of blame to go around.
Clinton will never sue, he doesn’t want the whole story to get any more publicity.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:23 amI know Nowrasteh is telling the truth by that serious, professional look on his face.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:26 amIs ThinkProgress STILL on this topic???? Let it go, people! The left-wing failed to prevent the program from airing and its second-night was the highest-rated show that evening….The TP-led attempt at censorship and prior restraint failed and the country got to see the movie (which was quite good, by the way)…Move on.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:27 amAt this point, who cares. Nobody watched the damn thing anyway. I, for one, watched the Indianapolis-Giants game on the first night, and turned the second night off after the shaky Blair Witch Project hand held camera angles started giving me a headache.
Rather than some sort of earth-moving event (Like “The Day After” in the mid-80’s), I can’t for the life of me think anyone is going to remember this clown’s movie. It was, pretty much, a non-event.
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September 18th, 2006 at 10:27 am#8 – Juan, the fact that you would use a movie filled with inaccuracies for your history book really is over the top. There are plenty of documents items in the news, online and the like that will give you the information you need.
Turn off the TV and read.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:28 amSTFU, Zoolander.
You too, Exley, you admitted pompous ass.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:30 amOk, so he comes out and proves he’s insane.
And Denny, you’re obviously lying, what’s the point in that?
September 18th, 2006 at 10:30 amAh yes, another “I’m a libertarian” conservative. Libertarians are just wingnuts who wanna own child porn. FU totally-accurate-cyrus!
September 18th, 2006 at 10:31 amHe is just trying to recover from the criticism that attacked the veracity of the film before he sends it off to Blockbuster for public release.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:31 amHe didn’t make enough profit the first time around, so he’s at it again.
The sheeple will believe him – the guy is a demagogue, and should be ignored, but leave it to the WSJ to give him another venue.
Exley, so you’re going to stand up and ask for the Pres. Reagan docu-drama to be broadcast? they’re both “docu-drama”, they both have the exact same amount of fiction/reality.
So, stand up and say “Now that you’ve done a hatchet job on Pres. Clinton, do one on Pres. Reagan!”
September 18th, 2006 at 10:32 amWhy anyone would believe anything this bunch of nuts would expouse is beyond me. I wouldn’t believe them if they said this whole mess was their fault. Lies lies and more lies has convinced me.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:32 amRichard Mellon Scaife and David Horowitz were involved from the beginning.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:33 amThe director is a known political wacko and will only be able to work on Xtian wacko projects from now on. Ask Mel Gibson and Bruce Willis.
Norwasteh wants to work again and is trying to cover his bases. We are living in times that make Joe McCarthy look like a patriot. We won’t forget the cultists traitors that drove our country into the 3rd world.
Your list left out one of the most actionable offenses, namely the smearing of American Airlines.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:33 amAmerica’s Least Wanted
Bush demanded aggressive action after receiving the August 6 Presidential Daily Brief entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US.â€
Actual Bush response: “Great, now you’ve covered your @$$.”
September 18th, 2006 at 10:35 amThe guy is a Rovian delight! Lie scandalously about your opponents & since your words get airtime, that is all that’s needed to call them truth.
George Orwell is spinning in his grave.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:35 am#8 -
You’re right, it wasn’t Bush who caused al Qaeda to attack the US.
But Bush did NOT react in any meaningful way to the al Qaeda threat. Bush ignored the intelligence about al Qaeda prior to 9/11. Then, while the country was living in fear and seeking revenge, he falsely linked 9/11 and al Qaeda to Iraq, to wage a war he had planned long before taking office.
Yes, you have been fed bunch of lies, and yes, Bush is evil. Thank you.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:36 amTo Exley,for a right wing prick like yourself,the truth is censorship.All anybody wanted was a factual representation. To The Pittsburgh Kid,yes no one will remember this,but I still think it was worth watching to see how far the right will go to control thought,the subvert history. Nixon died hero and we all saw how the prictically launched Reagan off to heaven.
The more important issue is how this film came to be on a major network for 2 nights(sunday and monday no less) w/no advertising AND interrupted by a Bush speech just to make us real scared. How can so much propaganda get
September 18th, 2006 at 10:43 amon real tv.Who paid for it and who approved it? It’s incredible.
“Totally accurate”? Is that kinda like George Tenet saying “slam dunk”?
September 18th, 2006 at 10:47 amFRANK RICH: The Longer the War, the Larger the Lies
““The Path to 9/11†was false from the opening scene, when it put Mohamed Atta both in the wrong airport (Boston instead of Portland, Me.) and on the wrong airline (American instead of USAirways)”
The article also contains some good tips on spotting Bush admin lies. Of course, “some might say” that if their lips are moving…
September 18th, 2006 at 10:48 amIt is nice to see some facts come out that the Clinton administration fights to hide. He is so worried about his legacy [of shame] that many people did not realize how much terrorism escalated under his watch. From the first bombing of the towers, embassy bombings, the terrorist training for two year before 9/11…. It is nice to see people realizing the mess Bush inherited.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:49 amOh Exleyment don’t you believe in telling the truth? Didn’t your mother teach you how to be truthful? As an action flick it had all the shaky camera work and tension. As an historical reenactment it fell short of showing (here it comes) the truth. In no way would I defend Clinton but Bush is just as defenseless.
Don’t the republicans want the truth to be told?
September 18th, 2006 at 10:49 amEnough of this lieing snake eyed jerk already…The film was a flop, most of the public watched football or something else…Read their viewing was 12% so boycott and do what need’s to be done with out giving him and his bunch any more minutes of fame……Blessings
September 18th, 2006 at 10:52 amone must then wonder as to whether this person’s shirt is stapled to him by a helper so as not to pull out when he bends over
September 18th, 2006 at 10:52 amIs there any organized boycott of Disney? I feel like the left has just left this issue and that is not good. If we let these fascists get away with this, they will do it again and again.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:55 amSomeone ought to make up a movie about Cheney’s Energy Task force. Since the meetings were all secret, we could make up any shit we wanted.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:56 amWould be similar to this pile of propaganda rubbish.
#18 Zooey!
So good to hear from you. I trust the day finds you well.
#22
“The Reagans” was telecast on Showtime.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:57 amPresident Bill Clinton gave his first Inauguration speech on JAN 20, 1993.
The first World Trade Center bombing occurred on FEB 26, 1993.
President Clinton never once blamed Bush I or his policies for the attack. He got to work and caught those responsible who will remain in jail for life.
For eight years Clinton was attacked by Republican liars for a number of fabricated charges. 40 million was spent on those attacks and nothing has come of it. His attempt to kill Osama Bin Laden with a missile strike failed and he never had a second chance. The depiction of a situation where the White House is called to get the ok to attack a house where Bin Laden was is a complete fabrication. No such event occurred. It was during that time Republicans were loudly declaring that the war on Al Qaeda was a case of “Wag the Dog.” This revisionist crap of a drama is slanted and stupid and a disgraceful attempt by Republicans to cover their lousy governance and complete ineptitude.
When President Bill Clinton and his cabinet met for the “Pass the baton” meeting” between his outgoing and Bush’s incoming Presidency they made it very clear that the number one threat to the US was Al Qaeda.
Two hours later Condoleezza Rice gave a speech stating that the Bush Administration beleived the greatest threat to the Unites States was IRAQ.
They put Dick Cheney in charge of Counter terrorism and he never held a meeting. Not one.
Then 911 happened and lets remember history people.
The White House directed the EPA to advise rescue workers the air was fine down there.
Bush didn’t want an investigation. He was forced into it by families of the dead.
He didn’t want to testify.
When he finally did testify he could only do it with Dick Cheney on his arm and then they wouldn’t do it under oath.
George Bush and his buddies are weak and cowardly, incompetent and irresponsible for trying again to blame someone else for their mistakes.
Heck of a job Bushie.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:57 amNot only is posting way to slow, I see the trolls are here, pretending fiction is truth.
That can’t be good for TP’s reputation.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:57 amIt is upsetting to see this opportunity to really examine history and its lessons thrown away. The 9/11 story does present a number of interesting lessons:
1. How do we recognize budding dangers at an early enough stage to prevent fruition without becoming over reactive and paranoid?
2. How do we recognize the potential blow back from our policies in dealing with fringe groups? Our dealings with the radicals were necessary to contain the Soviets. The blowback has been beyond our anticipation.
3. How do we work in a bipartisan manner to counter threats?
4. How de we build back the trust and confidence between political groups to prevent the political use of such issues?
The highly partisan treatment of the Path to 9/11 failed in the task. As with most partisan statements, it oversimplifies and spins history. One side is right and the other blameless.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:58 amI sure wish Bush was worried about HIS legacy!
As it is he will go down in history as the one who subverted the Constitution and who advocated torture.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:58 amIs this the face of a nouveau riche and nouveau neo-con ? Is there any difference ? may be he is just a con man smelling easy money and quick fame . How is so much youth can be so full of it ?
September 18th, 2006 at 11:00 amOr Supreme Emporer Dick saying “last throes”? Oh, but I’m sure this guy isn’t deluded. Nowrasteh is absolutely sure that he’s positively and accurately on the mark with no room for error and that his entire fake-umentary is as “slam dunk” as the pre-war intelligence that was without spot or wrinkle.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:01 am“It is nice to see people realizing the mess Bush inherited.”
Comment by Happy+Guy — September 18, 2006 @ 10:49 am
Great, maybe if we dig deep enough we could pin all the failures in Iraq on Clinton as well! That’d explain everything.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:09 amI couldn’t help but notice that the Wall Street Journal remained silent on these claims. A good newpaper would at least have pointed out that many people of all political views have denounced certain scenes as not supported by fact. On matters political the WSJ is just another tabloid and deserves to be treated as such.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:09 amI finally watched the series this week and what I took away was the HUGE amount of CYA that no clear direction prior to 9/11 (Both Clinton and Bush). Also I can’t see why the left has their panties in a wad over this docudrama. Like I said before maybe you all should get together and write it with a scene that depicts a PNAC meeting planning 9/11 and its aftermath.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:11 amOnly two simple facts are needed to show the REAL difference between Clinton’s aggressive prosecution of terrorists & Bush’s fake GWOT –
September 18th, 2006 at 11:11 am1996: Under President Clinton, CIA sets up ‘Bin Laden Unit’ (before bin Laden has committed any major terror operation.)
2005: Under pResident Bush, CIA closes down ‘Bin Laden Unit’ & retires its most senior operatives (despite bin Laden still being at large after killing 3,000 Americans & other Nationals.)
‘Nuff said.
Aren’t Nowrasteh’s 15 minutes of fame up yet?
September 18th, 2006 at 11:13 amLooks to me like you guys fell for it: you put a flash-in-the-pan loser back into the news.
Good job, guys.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:16 amC’mon. You can’t effect a conservative bastion in Hollywood by calling yourself a conservative outright. That’s a no-brainer. In fact most creative output from conservatives seems to indicate an entire absence of brains.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:16 am#49
Dave,
Your Bears look impressive.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:17 am#47
That’s what you got out of a work of fiction RRS?
Wow, that’s amazing.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:19 amPath to 9/11 is a 100% phony docu-drama and funded propaganda by the GOP!
September 18th, 2006 at 11:19 amWow, I have to combine a few in this one.
Nothing ever came about investigating Clinton! Are you insane? 12 of his cronies where found guilty in court, many going to jail. He was impeached, found guilty of prudery and lost his law license. Wow, talk about revisionism.
Bi-Partisan! Not from a Democrat. If you try to agree on any topic that is not towing the party line you get kicked out of the party. Joe Lieberman is 100% Democrat. He agrees on one topic, he is Jewish and these people want all Jews dead. Gee Wiz, I wonder why he feels the way he does. So what do the Dems do? Kick him to the curb. The new Democratic party is a bunch of ultra-liberal left-wings nuts. The country is mostly red and moderate. You guys are shooting your own foot.
When a big attack comes it will be in a city. Know for being “blueâ€, will you wake up then as you shrinking voter base gets blown up?
Last comment was about TP’s reputation. Just remember “TP is usually full of sh!tâ€.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:25 amI see retiredrebubsoldier has a new screen name.
Whatsa matter boopsie? Did ya keep repeating stupid stuff and get 86′d?
Nothing is too good for our trolls.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:27 am#42 ” I sure wish Bush was worried about HIS legacy!”
Bush is well aware of his legacy. He’s doing everything he can to give himself the REGAN treatment once he’s gone. It’s going to take a hell of a lot of lying to hide the truth but that’s the plan. It was one of the very first things that he did which made me look at this President as someone without concern for law.
He stole his records from his stint as Texas Governor and sent them to his fathers’ library. He then appointed out of hand and without precedent, his own historian.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0423-03.htm
September 18th, 2006 at 11:29 amHappy+Guy
Lying sack of shit.
Joe Liberman is a REPUBLICAN taking REPUBLICAN money from REPUBLICANS so he can vote with REPUBLICANS on every issue.
Bill Clinton was convicted of…… WHAT?
September 18th, 2006 at 11:32 amHappy+Guy > since you hate TP, and believe it’s full of crap, then why do you post on here? Go to RedState.com and spew away with fascists > lol.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:32 amA right winger lies? And the trolls excuse him? Surprise, surprise.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:33 amFound guilty of prudery?
LMAO
if that’s a crime, why aren’t more republicans in jail?
September 18th, 2006 at 11:34 amIs the censor active once again?
September 18th, 2006 at 11:36 am#55 — you are a moron. Leave us alone and join your moronic neocon buds
September 18th, 2006 at 11:37 am#55 Happy + Guy Clinton has his Law license back. He was impeach because he lied to the Grand Jury. This was something that should of been between him and his wife not the whole world.
Bush is the one who should be impeach because he lied to the american people about why we went into Iraq. The real reason was for OIL, OIL, OIL and to make his buddies richer.
When the Dems take over both houses in November we will impeach Old Bushies and his Admin.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:46 amExley, thanks … though I’m not going to order my Superbowl tickets just yet. Unfortunately, the “NFC North,” or whatever the heck they call this division, is hardly a tough division. (Not like what Chris Berman used to call the “NFC Norris Division”.) Still, I’ll take a 2-0 record anyday.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:46 am#58 Mparker:
Judge Finds Clinton in Contempt of Court
By Roberto Suro and Joan Biskupic
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, April 13, 1999; Page A1
A federal judge yesterday held President Clinton in contempt of court for giving “intentionally false” testimony about his relationship with Monica S. Lewinsky in the Paula Jones lawsuit, marking the first time that a sitting president has been sanctioned for disobeying a court order.
Clinton Disbarred From Supreme Court
By Anne Gearan
Associated Press Writer
Monday, Oct. 1, 2001; 10:48 a.m. EDT
WASHINGTON –– The Supreme Court ordered former President Clinton disbarred from practicing law before the high court on Monday and gave him 40 days to contest the order.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:52 amYou may have noticed that Republicans that don’t agree with EVERYTHING their Party says or does “ABSOLUTELY 100% OF THE TIME”, don’t consider themselves Republicans. They call themselves “moderates” and “independents“.
Democrats know you don’t have to march in lockstep with your Party on every issue and still call yourself a Democrat. Not so with Republicans.
DISCIPLINE, people! DISCIPLINE!
September 18th, 2006 at 12:00 pmHow do you know the right-wingers are getting nervous about something. They say, “Move on.” This is the crowd that dwelled on Whitewater for 7 years. What do you want to move on to, Exley, the war? The economy? The upcoming election?
There’s a reason people remain preoccupied with an issue. Usually, it’s because there has been no resolution. I just saw 9-11 Press for Truth and it was all about Bush and his cronies and the mainstream press wanting to “move on”. The 9-11 victims’ families responded by saying, let’s look into this before we move on and the 9-11 Commission was established. The entire proceeding, however, was more or less just a national, “Let’s move on and forget the details” sort of a thing.
September 18th, 2006 at 12:04 pmYou know it’s funny. These conservatives are all about responsibility, but never take responsibility for their own actions.
September 18th, 2006 at 12:16 pmIt is utterly laughable that Republicans like Exley continue to try to equate Clinton lying about a private consensual affair with the prolific and mendacious lying, law breaking, and war crimes of the Bush administration.
Pathetic.
September 18th, 2006 at 12:19 pmThe 9/11 report was not complete ergo Nowatrashs tall tale is also incomplete — ergo it cannot be true or accurate.
September 18th, 2006 at 12:24 pm#68 Massachusetts Liberal,
I was just trying to offer you folks some helpful advice. The failed effort to prevent the American people from seing this film only wound up hurting the left-wing by raising its profile and reminding people of the Clinton administration’s insufficient response to Al Qaeda terrorism in the 1990s. This is borne out by recent polls that show that the GOP has regained its advantage over the Democrats as the party best able to adress the problem of terrorism. If you want to keep talking about the Democrats and their traditional electoral weakness on the issue of national security, please go ahead. Like I said, I was just trying to help.
September 18th, 2006 at 12:26 pmThese Republicans seem to want to get rid of reality and truth. The critisms aren’t critisms against true inaccuracies, but something more tame like “politically driven hysteria”. What delusional nonsence. Let’s round these people up.
September 18th, 2006 at 12:26 pmMan, I wished I could have watched Path to 9/11. I saw Nowrestehs’s movie The Day Reagan Was Shot on Showtime. Has anyone here seen that? The movie was not Republican friendly. However, since I didn’t see Path to 9/11, and the majority of people here think it was conservative spin let me ask this, did the movie talk about Sandy Berger stuffing classified documents in his socks (which he said was an accident) while preparing to testify in front of the 9/11 commision?
September 18th, 2006 at 12:28 pmyou know it’s funny. These conservatives are all about responsibility, but never take responsibility for their own actions.
Comment by Karim — September 18, 2006
Yeh, I was readinf about the Unitary Executive thing and part of that is being responsible, “the buck stops here” thing, yet Bush never takes responsibility for anything. (Unless it’s a terror plot that’s been foiled in Britain)
In Bush world the buck never stops because it’s name is blame.
September 18th, 2006 at 12:29 pmExley: Liar.
September 18th, 2006 at 12:36 pmThe failed effort to prevent the American people from seing this film only wound up hurting the left-wing by raising its profile and reminding people of the Clinton administration’s insufficient response to Al Qaeda terrorism in the 1990s.
See Exley, you say one thing and post another. We went thru this the other day, and still you keep forgetting that Reagan and Bush Sr. armed Saddam.
Your are not clever Exley nor is your asessment correct, your just another boob tube watcher thats stuck on Clenis.
YOU know good and well that Regan Bush Sr. and Rummy looked the other way when Saddam gassed the Kurds [Agaba pipeline] and that Reagan assisted and appeased the mujahdeen.
Your lame Exley, now stop repeating your little ‘Clenis’ fantasy cloaked in “Help”
Reagan was a Terrorist appeaser, admit it.
September 18th, 2006 at 12:41 pmThank God Reagan wasn’t a Soviet appeaser. Things were different in the 80’s than today Dicky Boy. This country sent the wrong message to terrorists dating back to President Nixon. Yeah, thats right, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, and Clinton. Bush Jr. didn’t back down, and that drives the leftist flower sucking idiots CRAZY!!!!!!!!! I can’t wait to here the excuses on why the left lost ANOTHER election come this November. Haaa Haaaaa Haaaaaa Haaaaaaaaa.
September 18th, 2006 at 12:52 pmAt least Reagan wasn’t a Soviet appeaser. And Bush Jr. isn’t a terrorist appeaser. I can’t wait until November to here the left’s excuses on why they LOST ANOTHER ELECTION. Conspiracy theories will abound while reason will show that the left has no grip on reality. N O N E whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAAA HAAAA HAAAA HAAAA HAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
September 18th, 2006 at 12:58 pmCOULTER 2004: I’m not blaming the Democrats for 9-11 alone. I’m blaming them also for the Cole bombing, for the embassy bombings, for 20 years of attacks that have not been stopped. It is indisputable that it is because of regulations that came post-Watergate when Congress was made up of two parties: Democrats and radical Democrats.
Reading, today, what Anne said in 2004 is pure crap. All of these talking points of hers. and Exleys, have been debunked many times over. We know today that Reagan did finance and Assist Al Qaeda, that Bush sr and Rummy assisted Saddam with WMD and Looked the other way while shipments continued AFTER the Kurds were gassed (this during a Republican Presidency), of course this also brings up Ollie North and the Iran-Contras, another Republican led fiasco..
September 18th, 2006 at 1:03 pmLook who is a lying sack. Joe Liberman does not vote Republican. This just proves your head is so far up you can’t see truth. If he did you lefties would not be able to burn flags. We just needed one more vote to get a burning ban passed in the Senate but Joe towed the party line on that one.
He is a Democrate who is destroying the State of Connecticut and has been for years. If anyone in the Dem party votes with his mind he becomes an instant Republican. You are so twisted it is funny. Good thing you are all destroying yourselves. People will vote for saftey or giving terrorists rights.
September 18th, 2006 at 1:05 pmtherant.us has an article even more disturbing that calls anyone who attacks it ‘ridiculous’ then goes on a 2 page rant that liberals suck yet provides not a single rebuke of any point liberals brought up.
Check it out. Spam them with hate mail.
September 18th, 2006 at 1:08 pmHere are some action links to make your complaint about ABC’s obvious shilling.
if you want to complain to the FCC through an intermediary;
http://www.charleswsanders.org/petitions/pnum495.php
Or you may wish to make a direct complaint, and you can do that here;
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/complain.shtml
Vote absentee and your vote will be harder to “erase”
September 18th, 2006 at 1:08 pmThis country sent the wrong message to terrorists dating back to President Nixon. Yeah, thats right, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, and Clinton. Bush Jr. didn’t back down, and that drives the leftist flower sucking idiots CRAZY!!!!!!!!! I can’t wait to here the excuses on why the left lost ANOTHER election come this November. Haaa Haaaaa Haaaaaa Haaaaaaaaa.
You realize how silly that post is?
You say WE sent the wrong message when it was the Republicans that screwed up, but now that Bush Jr. has created a bigger screwup in the battle against Reagans freedom fighters you want to call this quagmire in Iraq, a Peace Operation mind you, a victory for the Neo-Kooks?
What planet are you on?
Jr. is a moron trying to fight an asymmetric war with Shock and Awe,..only a wingnut would find this a victory or a win..
Good luck selling that line of ‘WE’ and ‘US’ garbage..
September 18th, 2006 at 1:09 pmWhere’s Jon Stewart with the Question Mark?
Oh there it is!
September 18th, 2006 at 1:10 pmThe whole project stunk of right-wing propaganda. First it was all 9/11 Commission Report, 9/11 Commission Report, fact, fact, accuracy, accuracy. So much so that ABC (with Scholastic Inc.’s help) even tried to ram it down high schoolers’ throats with educational materials, “Generously sponsored by ABC”.
I saw the educational materials – conflating 9/11 and Iraq, among other right wing fairy tales. The “materials” included a letter from 9/11 Commissioner Kean yakking about “facts” and “accuracy”. (He later said he didn’t know what was in the film – he hadn’t seen a final cut. Can you say “back peddling”?.)
Didn’t take long for Scholastic, Inc., to pull the materials for not meeting Scholastic’s “high standards”and issue a statement saying “that Scholastic had no involvement with developing the ABC docudrama, and that the company is not promoting the program.”
ABC did some back peddling too – big time, as a matter of fact. They changed the original disclaimer from the sparce “Based on the 9/11 Commission Report” to crowded page citing additional sources like other books and interviews. Did the original disclaimer – or claimer – leave them too open to legal action?
They didn’t pull the mini-series though? Hmmm, I am just spit-balling here, but maybe the invisible benefactors who paid for 5 hours of air time weren’t willing to let ABC out of the corner they painted themselves into.
Cyrus whatchamacallit is just trying to make a stand. No one on the left and no one without a political agenda is likely to ever give him a job writing after this. He’s got to at appeal to the far-right, esp. those who didn’t actually read the 9/11 Report or who belong to the “Blame Clinton Early and Often Club”. He’s got to try and present himself as a persecuted truth teller, instead of big lying, fabricator boy.
The stench from this mess is bad!
September 18th, 2006 at 1:15 pmAnd Bush Jr. isn’t a terrorist appeaser
sure he is..haven’t you seen Bush give Osama more airtime than any other terrorist? And hasn’t bush given osama just what he wanted? yupp.
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People will vote for saftey or giving terrorists rights.
How do you vote for a terrorist rights in America?
By voting to remove your own rights?
Really man WTF, Bush says OSAMA hates you because your free, so you will do just what Osama wants by letting Bush take away your rights to be free?
Yeh the ‘terrorists’ will love you when you sell your freedom away…right..
September 18th, 2006 at 1:18 pmExley: Liar : and 5/4ths retarded (my apologies to the mentally challenged, at least you have a legitimate excuse)
LOL… this maroon is touting “recent polls”…. still mad that old billy boy got his knob waxed in the oval office I see, oh the horror, LOL – quick, cover exleys eyes and ears everyone…. wait, no need, just rock him to sleep those tried and “true” republican lullabies so he feels better about the wonderful world we live in thanks to the bushketeer club…
“This is borne out by recent polls that show that the GOP has regained its advantage over the Democrats as the party best able to adress the problem of terrorism.”
hows that bush bounce there goin for ya… he’s at what now? 37%?
oh, yeah, thats right… in your world down is up and you and your ilk speak for the majority of americans… yeah, of course it was all clinton’s fault we BELIEVE you… ROFLMAO…..
comments like yours make me want to be there to revel in the coming mental breakdown you’ll be having when your heroes get their asses handed to them on election day… try as they may to lie, cheat, and steal to hold onto their offices, your party’s reality check is well under way…. sorry to have to break it to ya, but like you said, just trying to help
recent polls LOFL, good one there …. you had me goin for a moment LOMFL
September 18th, 2006 at 1:22 pmThis just proves your head is so far up you can’t see truth. If he did you lefties would not be able to burn flags. We just needed one more vote to get a burning ban passed in the Senate but Joe towed the party line on that one.
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You do realize that burning is how they get rid of old flags don’t you? :The Flag Code suggests that, “when a flag has served its useful purpose, it should be destroyed, preferably by burning.”
And secondly I have never burned a flag, and if I did it would be per the flag code.
What I do burn is GOP signs found along the highways littering the landscape.
September 18th, 2006 at 1:32 pmAll I’m saying, if you talk to liberals, they are comfortable espousing that prior to 9-11, the world was a beautiful, peaceful place. What the movie does, even if it is 99% false, is to remind us the towers were bombed before Bush, the Cole was bombed before Bush, the embassies were bombed before Bush. The situation is a mess, but Bush didn’t inherit a perfect Clinton world and turn it into an evil Bush world that can be easily turned into a perfect Democratic world with a simple trip to the polls. The movie served it’s purpose. Thank you.
September 18th, 2006 at 1:54 pmNowrestah fits right in with other conservatives. He has difficulty speaking the truth.
September 18th, 2006 at 1:56 pmExley,
September 18th, 2006 at 1:57 pmI just found that lullaby for ya:
http://www.cnn.com/video/us/2002/02/25/ashcroft.sings.wbtv.med.html
Pleasant dreams!
#92, tru_thordare
Well, he was the greatest Attorney General since Robert Kennedy, but he’s not much of s singer.
September 18th, 2006 at 2:12 pm# 13 Denny is not me.
When you click on the name the same window appears that both brandi and Robroy were using the other night.
September 18th, 2006 at 2:23 pmBoy Dick your being a real, um, never mind.
How am I voting away my rights. I am not planning on calling any terrorists over seas. If I did then they should listen. You people twist that whole topic. When the people found out what was happening they agree with the president. But your twisted little band of lefties wants the terrorists to have constitutional rights. Sorry, they don’t fall into the protected group.
I have a wonderful life with more freedoms than any other country. I would be in no other place. You don’t feel the same way then go to where you are comfortable, but don’t mess with my rights. The right to be safe is a pretty big one.
And if you are going to twist the flag burning issue then your head is still stuck. When a flag is retired it is burned with respect. Not dragged in flames through a street and spat on. Too many lives have been given in defense of that symbol. Anyone who does not understand that should be deemed a traitor. That’s not free speech. That is so disgusting that if I saw that act I would show you violence and torture.
Not the torture found in our Cuban country club. While they throw excrement at our boys they have to hand them the holy book of hate with white gloves on. Ohhhh, we torture them. While they blow-up or behead anyone from our side. You little kiddies better grow up and find out the real world we live in is a nasty place and should be proud of what is happening to defend your freedoms.
Hey, did you hear what happen when we gave Abu Ghraib prison back to the Iraqis? Fist thing they did was hang 27 of them. They are torturing the crap out of everyone. They understand the people in there are evil. The prisoners are begging for the Americans to take it back. And the Anti-American Demorats were asking for it to be turned into a memorial on how bad America is.
I had some time so I figured I would rattle a few cages. Keep it up, and we will keep winning elections. Flame On.
September 18th, 2006 at 2:43 pmWell nobody watched so Kean and others lost the money they wanted to make. First it was a lie then they said they’d fix it but didn’t then it went on air as nobody watched now their back to it was the truth. This one movie full of lies has cost the GOP, Disney, reglious right , investors and Mr. Kean’s son who is running for office. What a price to pay for a lie.
September 18th, 2006 at 2:44 pm#98
Actually, Jackie, Part II was the highest rated program of that evening. And Tom Kean Jr. is now leading the polls in the NJ Senate race over Menendez.
September 18th, 2006 at 2:47 pmLOmuthaF’nLOUD AGAIN… really exley, you’re killin us here…
REPUBLICANS INCH CLOSER in ‘06 ELECTION PREFERENCE
ABC News — September 13, 2006
“THe Republicans lead teh Democrats in trust to handle terrorism by 48-41 percent among registered voters in this ABC News polls, a flip from a seven-point Democratic advnatage last month
you seriously think i’m taking an ABC News poll seriously? HAHAHAHAHAHA yea… and ABC/Disney, TIME, and CNN aren’t exactly biased now are they… LOL LOL LOL … what’s that? another bush bounce i hear…. ROFLMAO
good one senor exley, feel sorry for you come november… try a bit harder… thar’s progressive thinkers round these hee-uh parts good sir…. LOFL
(it’s like 5th grade all over again with these guys i swear)
September 18th, 2006 at 2:54 pmRight you are Juan (#90) – the world wasn’t perfect pre-Dubya,but on the other hand…
Pre-Dubya, no one called liberal little ol’ me a “fascist”, “terrorist appeaser”, “intelectually confused” , “anti-religion” (or what ever the insult of the week is) because I didn’t agree with whoever the President was
Pre-Dubya, FEMA could actually help in a disaster instead of pulling the focus away from relief so incompetence could be assessed.
Pre-Dubya, if it became clear that contractors were grossly overpricing, not providing the services as contracted, or having their leadership convicted of providing bribes – Congress wouldn’t have spent their time legislating over the medical condition of one woman in a vegetative state, or trying to amend the Constitution to disallow flag burning – despite the rarity of it, or writing legislation worded specifically so it wouldn’t pass
Pre-Dubya, my mom didn’t have to worry over and try to analyze a prescription drug deal that even members of Congress couldn’t get a handle on. Nor did she have to worry about reaching the “donut hole” and having to pay 100% out of pocket while still making payments on her premium
Pre-Dubya, my friends who are dedicated teachers weren’t considering giving up because their job stopped being educating and became about test preparation. Their schools didn’t try to find ways to get kids with learning difficulties to switch schools, rather than stay and risk them lowering the average
Pre-Dubya, my son’s barely more than minimum wage after school job would at least afford 2 gal. of gas per hour’s net pay and filling a gas tank would leave a bit left over to save toward college – which is almost unaffordable with us and him saving up
No good came from 9/11 except that for awhile we were all Americans until Dubya talked bipartisanship, but used the “my way or no way” method of governing
I could go on, but it makes me sick to think how 6 years with a clueless, silver-spooned, “Christianist”leader has our country angry, and divided and unable to discuss issues or consider compromise.
Yup Juan, the world wasn’t perfect before Dubya – but compared to now…
September 18th, 2006 at 3:02 pm#101,
Oh, blazeit+cuz , is that REALLY the best you can do???? When confronted with a number of polls that contradict your statements in posting # 88, all you can do is say, “I don’t believe the polls.”
Ooookay. I see you have no substantive response to these numbers. You are dismissed, rookie.
September 18th, 2006 at 3:13 pm#102
Part II to which I referred aired on Monday night. Why you are citing Sunday night’s numbers is beyond any of us….
September 18th, 2006 at 3:15 pmABC ‘PATH TO 9-11′ TOP RATED SHOW OF MONDAY NIGHT… 8.3 RATING/12 SHARE FOR ABC MOVIE, BEAT ‘CSI: MIAMI’ RERUN [6.8/11] AND NBC 9-11 ‘DATELINE’ [3.7/6].
This is the Monday ratings. So this reflects 29% of the “available TV viewing audience”. That means 71% of the available TV viewing audience chose NOT TO WATCH TV in that slot. So 71% plus 17% that didn’t watch ‘path to stupidville’ for a grand total of 88% of the available TV viewing audience chose not to watch the show. Sounds like a loser to me.
September 18th, 2006 at 3:28 pmHappy Guy
I am not planning on calling any terrorists over seas. If I did then they should listen. You people twist that whole topic.
It’s not all about you. It’s about all of us, the U.S., its values and principles, its moral authority. Progressives don’t mind wire-tapping as long as there are checks and balances of power through court order and oversight by Congress. You people twist that ad nauseum.
You don’t feel the same way then go to where you are comfortable, but don’t mess with my rights. I am and will remain an American with the right to disagree and confront government officials when they go against my values or the law. If you don’t like THAT, then maybe you should go somewhere else.
Too many lives have been given in defense of that symbol. Anyone who does not understand that should be deemed a traitor. That’s not free speech.
Those lives were given for the values and principles of our republic which that symbol represents, not the symbol itself. “Speech” is not just speaking(the use of symbols). It’s about writing, drawing, painting, and using the flag to express opinion.
That is so disgusting that if I saw that act I would show you violence and torture.
Of course you would. Attack the person or the form of the message and ignore the content. And resort to violence rather than understanding a person’s position.
Ohhhh, we torture them. While they blow-up or behead anyone from our side. You little kiddies better grow up
Black and white thinking and a strawman argument. Just because we may not be as thoroughly wrong as someone else, doesn’t mean we’d be right. Reminds me of a little boy saying he only broke one window throwing stones and snitching on his brother for breaking three. Talk about immature!
And the Anti-American Demorats
Being against an American policy is not anti-American. Name-calling slogans are not truth.
September 18th, 2006 at 3:30 pmIf ThinkProgress or another similar site started a petition to send the FCC that would call ABC on hiding the connections of the production company and individuals behind the miniseries to conservate political organizations, I would sign it. I do believe that stations are required not to mislead the public about political programming in order to keep their licenses.
September 18th, 2006 at 3:30 pmHey, Exley, care to give some kind of link that points to these numbers you cite?
How about this claim: “The viewership numbers for both Part I and Part II were well below the viewership numbers for re-runs of Happy Days.”
I don’t need to actually cite any source, but since I’ve stated it as fact you now have to prove me wrong.
It’s the Pres. Bush doctrine. You have to prove me false, but I don’t have to prove anything. See how that works? If it’s good enough for the current administration to use, it’s good enough for me!
If you disagree with this doctrine, could you explain why you hate America so much? (See how Pres. Bush does it?)
September 18th, 2006 at 3:33 pmExley
When confronted with a number of polls that contradict your statements in posting # 88, all you can do is say, “I don’t believe the polls.â€
So, when Cheney or Rumsfeld or Bush or whomever says they “don’t accept the premise” or some other nonsense, you’ll be right here confronting them on their lack of substantive response to Americans questions. Right?
September 18th, 2006 at 3:34 pmSince when does qty (ie poll numbers) equate to quality (ie the truth).
September 18th, 2006 at 3:56 pmThese polls and ratings are very interesting, but do they matter? Has any poll favoring Democrats over the past 6 years made any difference in what is happening to you today?
September 18th, 2006 at 4:14 pmJuan, good question considering how Gore was ahead in the exit polls in 2000 and yet for some reason did not win.
It seems to me that polls are heavily manipulated via the way the questions are posed to people. The way that they are worded can be very misleading.
September 18th, 2006 at 4:36 pmExley nice move but I got my information from friends, family and others that live and vote in New Jersey. Don’t worry the numbers will change again as more Republicans get indicted and as they continue to tell us how well things are going in Iraq/Afgan. The GOP is fighting within their own group and Bush needs the torture bill passed so the UN can’t charge him with crimes against humanity. Look nothing is going right for these evildoers so the numbers aren’t important it’s the voting that counts. I do feel bad for the Republicans that are good but will be judged by association.
September 18th, 2006 at 5:03 pmThis weasel is merely trying to recoup some of the profit he didn’t make when he ran the film on ABC – it is going to be released on DVD soon and he is just trying to increase sales.
September 18th, 2006 at 5:28 pmSlander and lies apparently don’t register with his moral calculator.
I wonder if the Democrat really ruled Congress and the White House would they attempt to stop an TV program such as this?
September 18th, 2006 at 6:02 pmGee 115,
Contrary to many a right wing opinion, MANY people considered Path To 9/11 as an inaccurate, disrespectful handling of the subject matter. Some of them were hard core media conservatives.
I also don’t think there was an organized effort by the Democratic Caucus to get the movie pulled or changed to reflect the 9/11 report – which lots of media reports and blog comments like to imply. SOME Democratic politicians objectede – don’t get me wrong.
Politicians get interviewed on camera. It’s easy for the right to accuse them of trying to cover their Democratic asses.
However, thousands of people making calls and sending emails don’t get on camera and weren’t worried about Clinton or his ass. Despite what you may believe, for some of us, it was a rejection of more history spinning. For me personally. it was a rejection of spin PLUS outrage that it was supposed to be passed off as a factual accounting to kids in high school. I have a high school age son and would rather someone besides ABC and the goons they hired to prepare his history lessons!
FYI, the 9/11 Report wasn’t generous to Clinton. Cyrus N. could have written an accurate account and made Clinton look plenty bad – unless he was afraid he wasn’t writer enough to do the job well. Or unless, he had an agenda to further and sensationalism and misrepresentation made his effort easier… Oh, but that wouldn’t be honest, now would it?
September 18th, 2006 at 8:09 pmWOW The libs are really screaching over this movie. Some pretty wacky stuff posted here. You nuts will always be on the fringe. Enjoy your escapist fantasy theories while we rule the country! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. GOP! GOP! GOP! GOP!
SKULL & BONES RULES THE WORLD
September 18th, 2006 at 8:56 pmThe path to 9/11:
I was working on computers at A.A. that morning at OIA.
I am deeply ashamed this propaganda would be twisted into the hearts. of Americans by Americans.
The Republican party is showing thier true colors.
I have never seen so many lies in one movie declared to be truth.
Hint: Republicans ALWAYS LIE!
At least Clinton lied about a BJ; A gentleman never tells.
I guess the proper answer for Clinton back then would have been “I cannot recall”?
As for the torture of non combatants:
September 18th, 2006 at 8:57 pmI feel any person wearing a uniform (or part of one) in those pictures is guilty of “Cowardice in the face of the enemy, during a time of war”
(Look up the penalty for that one; Hint you get a blindfold)
Anyone who tortures a prisoner is not fit to wear the uniform.
Bobby Abooney-
On the left, nuts are the fringe, however, they aren’t posting here (the 12 of them are fashioning hats from tinfoil at the moment)
Nuts on the right? Bush calls them his base.
September 18th, 2006 at 10:42 pmWhy are you referring to the 9/11 Commission Report? It is also bs.
September 18th, 2006 at 11:51 pmIt may or may not be bs, but it was the document they initially claimed was the sole basis for the movie, ergo, they should have remained true to the report. Also touting the Chairman of the 9/11 Commission as advisor implied the report was basis and gave it (undeserved) credibility.
Under scrutiny, it was clear that parts of the movie were contrary to the report which is why people on the left and right objected and which is also why the revised disclaimer on the US broadcast was ridiculously long
DUE TO SUBJECT MATTER, VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED.
THE FOLLOWING MOVIE IS A DRAMATIZATION THAT IS DRAWN FROM A VARIETY OF SOURCES INCLUDING THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT AND OTHER PUBLISHED MATERIALS, AND FROM PERSONAL INTERVIEWS. THE MOVIE IS NOT A DOCUMENTARY.
FOR DRAMATIC AND NARRATIVE PURPOSES, THE MOVIE CONTAINS FICTIONALIZED SCENES, COMPOSITE AND REPRESENTATIVE CHARACTERS AND DIALOGUE, AS WELL AS TIME COMPRESSION.
instead of
BASED ON THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT
(on Rush’s and reviewers’ copies, on screen when it aired (at least) the first night it aired in New Zealand & believe in Great Britain – only 24-36 hours before US and well after media hubub)
Contents of 9/11 report – bs? or regular s? is a topic for another night
September 19th, 2006 at 3:13 amHey, did you hear what happen when we gave Abu Ghraib prison back to the Iraqis? Fist thing they did was hang 27 of them. They are torturing the crap out of everyone.
Comment by Happy+Guy —
Torture is monkey see, monkey do, that’s all it is peaches . . .
September 19th, 2006 at 5:37 amWow this tree is full of nuts. Still saying the 2000 election was stolen. Ha ha ha ha ha. You libs tried to steal the election through the liberal Florida supreme court. So we took it to SCOTUS so you could not steal it.
Why do you want this movie banned? Because it does not contain your message so of course you want to CENSOR us from seeing another point of view. Just like you want to censor Rush, Sean and Ann. Disagree with them all you want. But when you try to silence them you have become what you claim to hate.
September 19th, 2006 at 8:32 amHey Happy+Guy (maybe Delusional Dude would be better)
Who wanted it “banned” or “censored”? BTW, those are loaded words, intended to incite. You toss them out casually enough.
Truth is, ABC misrepresented the movie when they said it was “Based on the 9/11 Report”alone, and didn’t mention the other sources or the fictionalization. For me, the disclaimer was fine. It was dishonest of them to release any copies with an inaccurate disclaimer, since they must have known Nowrasteh used other resource materials. (Surely he mentioned it – right?)
Obviously, because of the fictionalization it still wouldn’t meet the criteria for a historical representation for school curriculum.
As far as your hate spewing trinity – I just don’t listen. They are too negative and fond of their own voices’ for me.
September 19th, 2006 at 9:47 amI swear Karl Rove gets a nickel every time someone refers to these Fundamentalist Evangelicals as the, “Right”. Wouldn’t you all agree the word itself implies they are correct about things when they are so clearly NOT! There is something else they are NOT, conservatives. Let’s call them what they really are, “Fundamentalist Republicans” or “Evangelical Republicans”.
Conservative Republicans from my father’s era (WWII veterans) believed in fiscal responsibility and LIMITED government. And just like Mr. Conservative of 1964 (Barry Goldwater), my father, a Republican until his death, would be called a “Left-Wing Radical” today because he believed the Federal Government should stay out of peoples personal business (ie abortion and sexuality) and stick to its role, as specifically outlined in the US Constitution. There are, after all, still plenty of tasks for them to complete at home. New Orleans ringing any bells?
For my Dad, a 9th generation American citizen whose forefathers served in every war this country has ever had, including the Revolutionary War, the answer was clear…Religion and Politics – DO NOT MIX!
September 19th, 2006 at 12:50 pmI swear Karl Rove gets a nickel every time someone refers to these Fundamentalist Evangelicals as the, “Right”. Wouldn’t you all agree the word itself implies they are correct about things when they are so clearly NOT! There is something else they are NOT – conservatives. Let’s call them what they really are, “Fundamentalist Republicans” or “Evangelical Republicans”.
Conservative Republicans from my father’s era (WWII veterans) believed in fiscal responsibility and LIMITED government. And just like Mr. Conservative of 1964 (Barry Goldwater), my father, a Republican until his death, would be called a “Left-Wing Radical” today because he believed the Federal Government should stay out of peoples personal business (ie abortion and sexuality) and stick to its role, as specifically outlined in the US Constitution. There are, after all, still plenty of tasks for them to complete at home.
For my Dad, a 9th generation American citizen whose forefathers served in every war this country has ever had, including the Revolutionary War, the answer was clear…Religion and Politics – DO NOT MIX!
September 19th, 2006 at 12:55 pmSo… yeah. From what I’ve seen of this comment list it consists of two groups of willfully ignorant cowards who don’t want to realize that there is no “left” and there is no “right”. It’s one gang folks, they’re just two different factions conjured up to distract you with “islamic extremists” and “the war on terror”, they did it to your parents with “communists” and “nazis” and so on and so on.
Did you know that if you dropped a billiard ball from the once standing WTC towers it would strike the ground in under 10 seconds?
So… yeah, I got a question for all you guys: if the towers (that’s North, South and #7) all collapsed due to fire, “pancake style”, ha-ha-ha… excuse me, then how in the hell did they all collapse to the ground in ten seconds or less, completely pulverized?
While your all busy cursing me, I would suggest you reach deep inside yourselves and find what it takes to research the ENDLESS facts and evidence that points to one inevitable conclusion: that a relatively small group of men (and women) at the highest levels of government planned and executed the 9/11 attacks to serve as a pretext for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and Iran soon as well. They have as well used the attacks to seize YOUR freedoms and have used the attacks as a political tool.
Hard to believe?
This is what I find hard to believe: 19 Arab-Americans with boxcutters hijack four American jet-airliners, and with no flight experience or skills hit 75% of their targets while being ALLOWED to fly unimpeded in the most well protected airspace in the WORLD, for an hour and a half!!!
Wake the hell up!
Neither Democrats or Republicans can or want to help you!
The sooner you see this, the better off you are.
Good luck, whether or not you agree with me, were ALL gonna’ need it.
September 19th, 2006 at 11:17 pmWhat’s your next project? Rewriting the outcome of WW2?
Your neocon fairy tale of a movie was pathetic. Hope it’s the last of your work inflicted upon a skeptical public!
September 20th, 2006 at 10:06 am#81 Happy + Guy. I am not sure if you respect the retired General Colin Powell or not, but I think you may find his letter insightful: http://www.aclu.org/flag/docs/19990518ColinPowellLetteronFlagAmendment.pdf
September 20th, 2006 at 1:02 pmJust because the link is on the ACLU site I hope this does not deter anyone from reading it. The letter is what it is.
P2-911 was brilliant. I want to purchase the dvd and distribute as gifts for Christmas.
September 20th, 2006 at 1:06 pmSimple facts for simple minds:
Number of Americans killed/wounded by foreign terrorists/fighters under:
8 years of Clinton: About 1,300
(incl. Kohbar Towers, TWC 1, Cole, Bosnia, etc.)
5.75 years of Bush: 30,000+
September 20th, 2006 at 2:54 pmOf course he lied. Richard Clarke who I respect said so.
September 20th, 2006 at 4:41 pmThis right wing author had an agenda with his path to 9/11 movie, he is one of those people who worship Bush and does not want to fault him for 9/11 even dough he faults Clinton for the 1993 attack that happened just 30 days after he took office.
Facts are facts, Bush was president on 9/11, he was told by the Clinton administration on the danger bin laden and his people posed to America.
The Bush Administration couldn`t stop 9/11 even dough they received memo 6, they arrogantly dismessed the danger.
The 1993 attack happened because Bush senior had forces in Saudi Arabia, Bin Laden was mad and he attacked.
At the end of the day The 2 Bushes are at fault for the 2 attacks the one on 1993 and the one on 9/11.
Bin Laden is still free, Bush failed miserably to get him in Afghanistan.
NO MORE BUSHES IN THE WHITE HOUSE PLEASE.
Are all of you complete idiots?!? You’re sitting at your keyboards praising Colin Powell… and Richard Clarke?!?
Colin Powell was at the helm of our military leadership in ‘91 when we baited Hussein to attack Kuwait to provide us with an excuse for war. Oh yeah and don’t forget how Bush 1 and his buddies (that INCLUDES Powell) told the Shiite’s to revolt against Saddam at the end of the conflict only to turn their backs on them and ignore their pleas for help as thousands were killed and the revolts squelched.
LET ME SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU: Mr. Powell is the good friend and some might say protege of a man by the name of Frank Carlucci, the man I just named is a board director for the Carlyle Group which is a defense contractor with ties to Saudi royals as well as… the Bin Laden family! Oh, wait, almost forgot: Bush 1 is friends with Carlucci and is on the board of Carlyle as well. Puh-leeeese stop this: “Way to go Colin!” Bullsh*t!
It’s reaaally sad to see commentors on a “think progress” sight spouting the typical right or left wing line they picked up from articles, written by “Journalists”, who are paid by men who are ultimately, by “class” and by secret clubs (Skull & Bones anyone?), either friends or acquaintences of Dubya, his father, or Clinton for that matter.
Oh yes and for anyone (seems like most of the people here) who is still stuck on the whole Bush/Clinton thing, why not look up the large number of pictures of the two of them smiling and glad-handing together. If Bush is so bad then why would Clinton show his face with him? If Clinton is so bad then why would Bush show his face with him? Hmmm, maybe… THEY’RE BOTH BAD!!!
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September 23rd, 2006 at 8:05 pm[...] Cyrus Nowresteh wrote ABC’s docudrama “The Path to 9/11.” Norwresteh maintained the movie was “an objective telling of the events of 9/11.” But his script contained several glaring inaccuracies, all of which shifted blame to the Clinton administration. Nearly 100,000 people contacted ABC to protest the film. [...]
October 16th, 2006 at 10:08 amAs much as I agree with the general sentiment that these movies are filled with fiction, party rhetoric and misleading situations, I feel compelled to point out one thing: IT’S A FRIGGEN MOVIE!!!!
If you go anywhere near a movie and expect facts, you are a MORON!
If it’s a documentary, THEN you can hold demonstrations and flame the producers, writers, sponsors, director, whatever until you run out of spit…. but a ‘docudrama’????
Docudrama = “We wanted to come as close to real events as we could without actually telling the truth.”
Of course they’re going to tell you it’s “mostly” true, which generates controversy, and the only thing controversy does to movies.. absolutely the ONLY thing it does is make people watch. Which is what they want. You want to explain to the makers of the movie in the strongest possible terms that you don’t like the movie and you think it is wrong, shut up and don’t watch it.
Of course people are going to watch it and believe it’s fact. Those are the people who have already made up their minds and there’s little hope for them anyway. Ignore them. Calling attention to it only brings them more converts.
Jeez! 136 comments about a movie….. An Oliver Stone movie!! What they hell did anyone think was going to happen?
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