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“You have to believe _________, or you are wrong.” Hmmmmmmmm, where have I heard that before?

Call me despicable. He does ’say’ what the people want to hear. I have never met the man and don’t personally know anyone that has. He is a politician and there is no way that you can tell me that there has been no misrepresentations on his part, all politicians do it to some extent.
Does that mean that I don’t respect him at all? No, it doesn’t, I do respect some of the things that he has proposed and the fact that he served in the military. I hold the gov’t responsible for the ‘conflicts’ that we are involved in, not the soldiers that are told that we are in danger and need to be fighting this person or that regime.

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]]> By: mary m http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/19/damato/comment-page-3/#comment-849524 mary m Thu, 21 Sep 2006 01:41:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/19/damato/#comment-849524 What makes the pap on this website any more "fair and balanced" than what's on Fox? Because you say it is? Stop hating long enough to learn from history. Look up these this name: Neville Chamberlain. See how he helped Hitler. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The same people who thought that Hitler was a nice guy probably would like Ahmenijad and Chavez too. You know, both sides are so blind that we are going to be caught with our pants down again. What makes the pap on this website any more “fair and balanced” than what’s on Fox? Because you say it is? Stop hating long enough to learn from history. Look up these this name: Neville Chamberlain. See how he helped Hitler. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The same people who thought that Hitler was a nice guy probably would like Ahmenijad and Chavez too. You know, both sides are so blind that we are going to be caught with our pants down again.

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It’s GOP Kool-Aid Time. Pure Poison.

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******Dear DC – Of course not, a loyal radical Leftist would “appropriate” the Ritz-Carlton and allow it to be taken over by the oppressed. For our countries “enemy detainees” lets stash them at the Hilton. (I NEVER stay at a Hilton property due to that walking trash bag, Paris.)

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