“My proof, Tracy is your posts.”

Which posts? How about just one. Is that easy enought for you?

“Besides, you aren’t here for discourse. It’s obvious to everyone except you.”

I try to have discourse with other people and have read your posts in other threads. Rarely do your comments EVER do anything to promote the dabate.

“Would be much easier to go into blogs to talk with the opposite side of the fence”

I doubt it…wouldn’t want to leave your comfort zone. Which sites have you posted in besides TP BTW?

I live in a red stste. I have conversations with real live conservatives nearly everyday. Would be much easier to go into blogs to talk with the opposite side of the fence – like you.

Besides, you aren’t here for discourse. It’s obvious to everyone except you.

“The real answer is because you are a coward. Your actions keep validating it.”

The is your asinine opinion. My opinion about why you visit this site frequently is that you are too much of a coward to post on a conservative blogs….or do you? If so, which ones?

But you visit TP everyday just about. I don’t because I don’t have the time.

Where is your evidence that I only go into old threads to attack people behind their backs?

Proof right there that you have a warped sense of reality. I don’t post until close to 6:00 most evenings, and I do it while grading papers.

The real answer is because you are a coward. Your actions keep validating it.

…BOTH have their eyes…

…CLOSED!

Regarding your hero Gorby, why not ask the dissidents who rotted in his jails about who freed them? Read Natan Sharansky’s “Case for Democracy” (no it isn’t Noam Chomsky approved) about Gorby…Gorby was forced to relent because his people were rising against him due to external pressure from Reagan and the Pope.

What “wacko claims” are you afraid to address? This is what liberals do. They don’t have facts so they just say they don’t want to address the point.

Is it FDR siding with Stalin….? Or Saddam butchering his own people…? Which one is a wacko claim?

Are you denying Saddam drained the marshes in the south, thus displacing hundreds of thousands of Shiia? Then, while they fled he straffed them with gunships? (again though, we are “evil” for throwing him out). Are you denying Saddam gassed his people and the Iranian soldiers? Or are you denying he shot at our planes thousands of times in the 90’s while we patrolled the north and southern ends of Iraq to protect the Shiia and the Kurds from slaughter?

Again, the US is the evil one though for kicking him out.

Or are you denying that FDR used to refer to Stalin as “Uncle Joe” and thought he was a decent fella and refused to address Churchill’s concern that as soon as the Nazi’s were defeated, then Stalin would simply fill the vacuum?

“You mean since we sided with Israel in Lebanon?”

So we should have sided with the PLO?

“Yep, that’ll happen when you invade another country and oppress its people.”

I thought you said that the those who attack first are the aggressors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Lebanon_War

“The Government of Israel gave a green light for the invasion as a response to the assassination attempt against Israel’s ambassador to the United Kingdom, Shlomo Argov by Fatah – Revolutionary Council and to artillery attacks launched by the Palestine Liberation Organization against populated areas in northern Israel.”

“Actually a crappy economy, corruption and mismanagement enabled the end of the USSR.”

And the fact the communism doesn’t work as a system of government or a economic one.

These are YOUR words….

“Guess why Saddam stayed in power for 30+ years – THE US!!!”

“You said why did he stay in power for 30+ years, I pointed out that it was a product of US policies.”

Read you own words again, because you said what he stayed in power and blamed the U.S.. YOU should read or write more carefully. Also you didn’t say that he was a product of U.S. policies untill now. Nide try.

“I didn’t say that every step of the way we’re SOLELY responsible…”

You said that the U.S. was responsible for Saddam staying in power for 30+ years and never mentioned ANY other entities. BTW he was president of Iraq from 1979-2003. We were both wrong on this detail.

“Then there’s the matter of those advanced helicopters used to suppress the post gulf war rebellion.”

They weren’t U.S. made helicopters. You need to brush up on your military knowledge.

“The US chose to support trade with a dictator, and that propped him up financially.

I agree we helped. At the time we saw the spread of communism as a greater threat than the Baath party taking over Iraq.

“That was my POINT all along.”

Then why did you say that from the beginning instead of saying that the U.S. was responsible for Saddam staying in power for 30+ years? You sounded like it that if it weren’t for the U.S. alone Saddam WOULDN’T have remained in power so long. You need to mention the main culprits that helped him build up his military machine that suppressed his own people and it wasn’t the U.S., it was the Soviets and the French.

“It takes that kind of external propping up (usually financially) for a dictator to survive.”

So now you are saying that the U.S. infused Saddam with cash?

“If a dictator can’t divert money around his people (say with oil), he can’t oppress them…”

Kinda like he did under the nose of the U.N….right?

Gorby led them to a better place….that’s pathetic to even claim. His country crumbled because Reagan ran them into the ground. The Soviet’s own nuclear scientists were asking for more “capitalism” and freedom to create because they knew that a closed society can’t keep up with a free society.

Sorry your favorite country and ideal failed – again. Keep your chin up. North Korea and Cuba are still running your ideology and starving their people.

I suggest you read about the Jewish Soviet dissidents such as Natan Sharansky who were jailed by the Soviets for speaking out. See, they weren’t allowed to leave the country…freedom…get the picture???

Yes, a crappy economy helped crumble the USSR — due to COMMUNISM! It doesn’t work!

Occupying Palestine? It is considered both of their holy lands and over thousands of years both have fought to control it. Palestine to me seems willing to share it as do the Jews – whom you obviously despise. Its the Islamic Fascists who are looking for a perceived grievance to rally against. Tell me, how come every time Israel agrees to give up territory, your beloved suicied bombers still murder innocent Jews in marketplaces with bombs laden with nails, ball bearing and rat feces? What next, the holocaust didn’t happen?

Condemned for killing and occupying whom? Oh, that’s right, we are killing the Baathists who were murdering and raping the Muslims…yet we are the bad guys?

Its so easy to get under a liberals skin. Just bring up the USSR and you get mad because in your mind, Communism is the Utopia. Next, all I had to do was point out American exceptionalism and pride in what we stand for – freedom – and you get infuriated. Again, because you don’t like America, you feel guilty and want to see America “get what’s coming to them” because we are the world’s only super power and and are finally doing the right thing and telling the thugs and dictators of the world to free their people and stop indoctrinating them into hate.

You must have a miserable life being a liberal. No morals (hey, if it feels good do it), no values, just contempt for America.

This is what Bush is doing, telling them to free their people.

Yet, he is condemned by the liberals for this. Amazing.

If this the paradigm, how about FDR’s coddling of good ol’ Uncle Joe. As in Joseph Stalin, as in 40 million of his own murdered, as in handing Europe to Stalin after WWII because he thought Stalin was a good guy.

Get over it. We are where we are and have to deal with the problem in front of us.

Instead of hating Bush, why not look at the Islamic Fascists who’ve been promising for 20 years to kill us all? Bin Laden’s Jihad was declared well before W took office.

Also, as for not catching Bin Laden, we have caught those who planned 9/11 such as Khaled Sheikh Mohammed and dismantled 80% of Al Qaeda. 5 years, no attacks. He’s doing something right. Get over your anger.

1. the U.S. has used nuclear weapons against its enemies
2. the U.S. labelled Iran part of the “axis of evil” and an enemy state
3. the U.S. attacked and destabilized another “axis of evil” country
4. the U.S. refuses to use diplomacy and simply makes demands

1A: Japan attacked first, remember? The atomic bombs ended the war and we are free and Japan is free from its dictators.
2A: Yes we did, rightly so. Hizbollah is backed by Iran and blew up the barracks in Beirut and the Khobar Towers – killing hundreds of American soldiers. Also, Iran is giving aid to the terrorists in Iraq. Ahmadenijad has called for the elimination of Israel and to “push the Jews into the sea”. Liberals want to give him a hug.
3A: Yep, Iraq was stable. Invaded two countries, murdered, tortured and gassed hundreds of thousands of its own people. That’s stability baby!
4A: Screw diplomacy with people who start the negotiation with “The West must die.”

“Guess why Saddam stayed in power for 30+ years – THE US!!!”

Provide some evidence that the U.S. was responsible for keeping Saddam in power for all that time.

“It takes an outside force supplying arms and even financial support to sustain that kind of lock.”

Supplying arms? I seem to remember during the Gulf War not seeing a single U.S. tank or armored vehicle along that “Highway of Death”. The T72 is a Soviet made tank. The BULK of the Iraqi armed forces were composed of Soviet military hardware.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_sales_to_Iraq_1973-1990

“Or because you’re so INSECURE you need the LAST WORD!!!”

Is that why you are posting now because you need to laugh at yourself some more?

“Why are you only going into old threads (on the second page or even further archived) to attack people behind their backs?”

Examples?

“Why are you rarely in any of the threads on the front page where people are actively commenting?”

Because, I don’t constantly visit TP every minute of every day like you do and post a comment the second it’s posted.

“As Dr. Phil says – the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior, and our government’s past behavior is pretty incriminating.”

Which was irrelevant as far as Iraq was concerned prior to March 2003…right?

“It’s why I voted for John Kerry.”

That explains alot. He would have lasted ONE term BTW. The terrorists groups would have almost certainly succeeded in another 9/11 type attack if he were to have been elected.

“They never stay in business for very long.”

Not to praise him, but Saddam was in power for 30+ years.

“And if we allow his neocon mentality to persist, something the United States itself will soon know as well.”

The liberals have done more that their fair share to scew up this country.

He should be laughing at himself.