Allen continues effort to downplay his Jewish heritage.
By on Sep 20th, 2006 at 12:07 pm
Allen continues effort to downplay his Jewish heritage.
“I still had a ham sandwich for lunch. And my mother made great pork chops,” Sen. George Allen (R-VA) said yesterday, explaining how news that his grandfather was Jewish is “just an interesting nuance to my background.” Info on the controversy here, here and here.
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Self hating jew always looks “interesting” on a resume.
September 20th, 2006 at 12:11 pmWhat is the point here. This man is an ass, that should be clear to anyone willing to look. The fact that he is seeking pure WASPdom is his issue. I just hope voters are discerning enough to say no to him at the polls.
TexasJuice
September 20th, 2006 at 12:17 pm“And I’m not funny. And I don’t work in Hollywood, nor do I sell diamonds. And I don’t invert my sentences. And I don’t make all kinds of demands in restaurants. And I don’t read from right to left. And I didn’t cry during Schindler’s List. Nope, no Jew in me at all.”
September 20th, 2006 at 12:17 pmWho cares??????
September 20th, 2006 at 12:17 pmAllen has a problem with his Jewish bloodline and his racist, white supremacist philosophy. He also can’t control his anger, so reporters should keep asking him about it and watch him have a vertical hissy on camera.
September 20th, 2006 at 12:22 pmUmm, who cares? An asshat is an asshat is an asshat whether he is a yarmulke, a fez or a turban.
September 20th, 2006 at 12:23 pmcan someone please make t-shirts that say:
September 20th, 2006 at 12:25 pm“GEORGE ALLEN: IGNORANCE IS BRISS”
Hitler hated his jewish bloodline too. Hitler was also a racist as well. Allen is a racist with ties to the CCC.
September 20th, 2006 at 12:26 pmSo Allen’s mother was so ashamed of being Jewish that she never told the him? How pathetic is it to be ashamed of who you are. Buying hook line and sinker into the world view of racists. This is very telling.
September 20th, 2006 at 12:26 pmSo his mother was so ashamed of being Jewish that she never told Allen that he’s part Jewish? How sad to be ashamed of who you are. Buying hook line and sinker into the world view of racsits. There is nothing quite like self-hate. This is very telling.
September 20th, 2006 at 12:29 pmwhooooooooooooooooo cares
September 20th, 2006 at 12:30 pmmountain molehill etc etc etc
mighty+aphrodite STFU jackass
September 20th, 2006 at 12:32 pmAll America demands that he answer this question: Senator Allen, are you cut or uncut?
And, what else isn’t he telling us? Could he be gay? What about a vampire? (Some of them are, you know). Maybe he’s even got a drop or two of black blood!
The Democratic Party needs to demand a full, complete DNA analysis determining which groups he belongs to or not! No DNA test, no peace!
September 20th, 2006 at 12:34 pmThinkprogress – it is up to us progressives to elevate the dialog. Unless this story has something to do with Allen’s fitness for office, please drop it. If you have a problem with Allen’s dismissal of his heritage, state it clearly and stop all of this inuendo, it does not do you credit.
September 20th, 2006 at 12:34 pmWhy is he even discussing his ancestry? Who really cares? The more people talk about how they are NOT prejudice, the more they are trying to cover up the fact that they ARE prejudice.
September 20th, 2006 at 12:47 pm“…please drop it.”
vampire concern troll?
September 20th, 2006 at 12:48 pmIf reporters want to get Allen to show his true colors, then they should pressure him on how he DOESN’T support the troops… how he voted against getting proper body armor for our troops in Iraq. Reporters can let the public know that Allen has put our military in harms way by not giving them the equipment that they need to protect their lives.
September 20th, 2006 at 12:50 pmIt says something about a man’s character when he denies his heritage.
September 20th, 2006 at 12:53 pmIt also says something about what he brings to the office he seeks to retain; how he views issues, how he values his constituents of all races and creeds, and what he sees for the future of America.
That’s what these remarks by George Allen say about himself – it’s not a pretty picture of a relatively young Senator in the country today.
Racism and bigotry is never excused, but it is easier explained in the case of someone who was born when racism and bigotry was accepted in much of the country — today, there is no explanation – there is no excuse.
#12 – MParker, Mighty Aphro is just upset because someone dropped a house on her sister.
September 20th, 2006 at 12:56 pmTo all the WHO CARES People:
Welcoming an American person of color to America without knowing anything about his citizenship suggests that you do not perceive people of color as having the same standing as whites.
Calling him mecaca further suggests that you do not view non whites with the same regard as whites.
Later taking offense to being asked about your Jewish heritage is just the latest evidence that Allen does not hold white and non white citizens in the same regard… and will therefore not represent them equally.
I know to you guys that institutionalized bigotry is probably no big deal… but to the rest of the world it is… that is why this is important… that is why We CARE!!!
September 20th, 2006 at 1:11 pmAllen’s campaign says Jim Webb, Ned Lamont and Democrats are jew hating anti-semites. Read it here!
http://allens-a-team.com/2006/09/20/resolving-webbs-jewish-question/
September 20th, 2006 at 1:22 pmHow does this qualify as anything of interest or importance? This is making Think Progress and every other site that continues fanning this very tiny little flame look kind of stupid.
September 20th, 2006 at 1:39 pmJust when you think they can’t get any more slimey, a “slimier” one will pop up.
September 20th, 2006 at 1:43 pmI think it is quite interesting that people on this thread are not interested in more information about how Sen. Allen keeps defining himself with his comments regarding race. Nothing is more mysterious than a fact clearly stated as the saying goes and either in or out of context who would disagree that Mr. Allen has decided to say the say the things he says without conscience? If we were a parliamentary form of government wouldn’t Mr. Allen be at the top of the SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE Party’s platform leadership. I suspect that most of the people who are arguing with this thread and it’s relevance are members of that group trying to dilute a potential Howard Dean stigma being made on their boy George. After all how could the social theocrats vote for a Mormon?
September 20th, 2006 at 1:50 pmThe man is a phoney pure and simple. That’s why this is relevant. Why should we believe anything he says? He’s as smarmy and slimey as they come. And, what’s with the squinty eyes? What a freakin’ dork!
September 20th, 2006 at 1:51 pmJust for giggles. Does anyone live in Virginia?
September 20th, 2006 at 2:07 pmmparker, You’re not related to Bonnie Parker, are you?? Your vocabulary has a certain tone…..
September 20th, 2006 at 2:19 pmtexasJuice #1,
Allen is in VIRGINIA…
…one of the most redneck, al Cracker, inbred subhuman conservative bastions in the nation…
…which is why he’s STILL in the race…
….”Save American democracy”…
…FORCIBLY SECEDE the confederate al Cracker Southern traitors’ STATES!
September 20th, 2006 at 2:28 pmVote here: What group will George Allen insult next?
September 20th, 2006 at 2:38 pmdoes he like adam sandler movies?? inquiring minds want to know.
September 20th, 2006 at 2:40 pmWelcome to the real world of Virginia, you bunch of chattering macacas!
September 20th, 2006 at 2:40 pmWhat else would you call it besides “an interesting nuance”? Actually, I don’t even find it mildly interesting. I would just call it a “nuance” and leave it at that.
Allen obviously was raised as a christian. Not surprising, since many of Felix’s generation chose conversion, rather than persecution or murder by the Nazis, for their children. It was the ugly result of an even uglier time (one that ended, I might add, only through decisive military action, with large-scale loss of life), but no one would expect Allen to revert to Judaism, or to eschew pork chops, at this late stage of his life. That would be REALLY phony.
This is like revealing that my great-grandfather, about whom I know almost nothing, was an Irish Catholic ward heeler for the Boston Dem machine 100 years ago. I wouldn’t be any more inclined toward eating corned beef and cabbage, or any more likely to vote for Teddy Kennedy. And it wouldn’t stop me from running for re-election as a senator from Virginia.
I do hope the lefties here and elsewhere keep picking at this nothing issue, though. I especially enjoy it when Webb staffers like Mr. Feld do so. Webb’s silence on this outrageous attempt to impose a religious test – excluding Jews from public office – will backfire on him, and on all of you. So keep up the good work!
September 20th, 2006 at 2:40 pmII have to point out all the hate in this blog. #28 bashed the state the Revolutionary War was won in. Home to 8 US presidents. And the nicest people in the world.
September 20th, 2006 at 2:41 pmGeorge Allen: Jew, Not a Jew?…
One thing his campaign may want to do to help Allen truly embrace his Jewishness is play “Jew, Not a Jew” with him….
September 20th, 2006 at 2:44 pmIf Macaca Allen is a Jew, then I’m cancelling my membership right now. It’s bad enough having to apologize for Joe Lieberman already.
September 20th, 2006 at 2:48 pmAn even more “interesting nuance” lies in the fact that Sen. Allen’s Tunisian ancestry makes him 50% African-American. So in the balkanized parlance of American liberals Allen is the incumbent African-American senator from Virginia – and a Jew, to boot. With that kind of victim’s pedigree he should be getting lots of campaign contributions now from the NAACP and the Anti-Defamation League!
September 20th, 2006 at 2:53 pmAm I the only Virginian?
September 20th, 2006 at 3:02 pmCitizen+Dad, you have to admit the idea of a retribution by the left for the flushing of Mr. Dean due to his emotional outburst does have some legs to it? I have to think that if Mr. Allen is to be the President of the US he has to pass a certain, if unrealistic amount of scrutiny and all the media attention he can draw to himself pulling his boots out of his mouth. As they say in Rappahannock county FOGET HELL. Isn’t that the way it is sir? Even if he loses to Mr. Webb, and decides to run for President he is the Social Theocrats’ boy is he not. I think he should see how S. Carolina goes and then pull a Joe Liberman Independent end around, if you will, and hold the GOP, Rudy Gulliani loving constituents, hostage for the party’s heart and actually see how big the social theocrats depth is. Again, you aren’t going to vote for a Mormon are you?
September 20th, 2006 at 3:04 pmSince it’s Allen and he mentions pork twice, I think we should also look into his connections with the pork industry.
Nice job pointing out why this is important SuperChrist and Fly-man.
September 20th, 2006 at 3:05 pmKevin, do you hear rumblng in Virginia. It’s not the traffic, it’s Jefferson rolling over in his grave!
September 20th, 2006 at 3:21 pmYa know, somethin’ just ain’t Kosher with this George Allen guy.
September 20th, 2006 at 3:27 pmLook, I want the democrats to win. But all this stuff about his religion is irrelevant and a really stupid diversion.
September 20th, 2006 at 3:35 pmPublicus. You seem like a rational person. I have been looking all over this site for one thing. What do Democrats/Liberals/Progressives really stand for? What are they all about? Please give me an answer that does not just I hate Bush.
September 20th, 2006 at 3:38 pmThis is along the Mary Cheney lines: don’t go there, Left. It’s ugly when you reverse-pander. Leave it alone.
xxxjimmy
September 20th, 2006 at 3:54 pmSo given his explanation he’s either (a) inherently stupid, (b) totally uninqisitive, (c) ashamed of his familial ties, (d) a liar. Take your pick none of them are “good” character traits for a leader of the country.
September 20th, 2006 at 4:04 pmKevin, I am disturbed by this Administrations handling of Iraq, Iran and now Afganistan. It also appears there is a tenancy towards heavy handedness (ie with other nations, congress, etc). I will, however, probably vote Republican again for the reason you site. Democrats, what is your position. It is easy to be the kid in the back of the class saying everything is stupid, or boring, or messed up. You are right. But as someone concerned about the future, I am not going to entrust someone whose only proposal is Bush lied, Bush is evil, Bush has screwed everything up, we’ll do a better job. You are going to have to do better than that to regain power for the benefit of the whole nation.
September 20th, 2006 at 4:06 pmOH so now it’s reverse pandering. Oh please! The civility in politics was checked at the door when George Bush selected Karl Rove as his advisor.
September 20th, 2006 at 4:11 pmPrepare yourselves, reason and sympathy was something the Right could count on to abuse the Left for actually utilizing in the last cycle. It’s not retribution now, it’s a universally accepted practice. All is fair in love and war and now it’s apples to apples and the party in control attacks are falling on deaf ears. Bend over and take it like a man will you all? Boy George has put his foot on his mouth beyond and all of his success and failures are self inflicted. The poor Social Theocrats just don’t know what to do. Go ahead K-Lo loves him just say it Mitt, Mitt, Mitt, you know Mitt, The Mormon, he’s you going to be your new boy.
Thank you Paul
September 20th, 2006 at 4:13 pmPaul, Kevin etal , those that apparently work for Boy George’s campaign, the notion that the Conservatives have allowed the GOP to destroy the budget surplus with their unbridled spending is more than just a little disturbing. Yeah the well I’m going to vote republican any way because the democrats don’t have any good suggestions to replace the GOP’s squandering is total bull shit. The analogy I have to the way the Government is run right now is The GOP is the dad driving the family car that everyone worked hard to pay for and dad and his party is at the wheel and going off the cliff yelling at everyone in the back to shut the hell up I know where were going. So I’m sure it will be after it crashes and burns with all on board the dad and his party will say why didn’t you say something. Screw you and your party works just fine for me. Your sorry ass excuse for an accountable responsible fair bipartisan partnership in government borders on spousal abuse. Maniacal hypocrites the lot of you all. Go ahead and say it Tax and spend, liberals, kinda has a different ring to it now doesn’t it after 6+ years at the helm by your boys and the party of destruction.Good luck with your civilized cheerleading.
September 20th, 2006 at 4:35 pmYou are going to have to do better than that to regain power for the benefit of the whole nation.
Comment by paul
Paul that’s like saying I am deeply disturbed that the President is a drug addict, but hes my guy so I am gonna keep enabling him on his wreckless path. I am gonna give this drug user more and more drugs because the Democrats aren’t as dangerous as Bush’s policies. I don’t care if a drug addict lies to me, I don’t care if he sends my kids to a war based on lies. He’s my drug addict!
You guys always talk about Power..We all know Power corrupts and yet you will re-elect that same corrupt, and incompetent person and give him the very last thing you shoud..Power?
Thats like saying I will re-elect Hitler because he has power and he needs more power to benefit the nation…that’s insane to give a derelict more power.
September 20th, 2006 at 4:44 pmSo given his explanation he’s either (a) inherently stupid, (b) totally uninqisitive, (c) ashamed of his familial ties, (d) a liar.
Or (e) the memory of what happened to Felix was so painful that it was not discussed in the Allen family when George was growing up. Like that “special” aunt or uncle who was an alcoholic, or a jailbird, or worse. Sheesh, aren’t there any secrets in your family’s closet?
The point is Article VI prohibits religious tests for public office, so all of these blatant anti-Jewish, anti-Christian, anti-religion comments are not only ugly, they also violate one of our most basic constitutional principles. This spectacle exposes the dark fascist underbelly of the left. As for Mitt Romney, (or anyone else) the last thing I would consider about him as a candidate would be his religious affiliation.
September 20th, 2006 at 4:47 pmI’m wondering why so many people have http://null/ as their URL
September 20th, 2006 at 4:49 pmLast I checked the Pres could only have 2 terms. Bush can’t run again.
September 20th, 2006 at 4:54 pmCitizen Dad name one Southern Christian poster child nominee for the GOP’s party’s helm? You can’t tell me you’re here to just politely defend Sen. Allen out of the most altruistic intentions. The Social Conservative vote is the biggest lynchpin to the GOP’s success in the next Presidential election and I find it quite curious that so many people on this thread are here to defend Sen. Allen or at least try to stop the bleeding of his poor choice of self inflicting words. This is a progressive blog after all. He was the last chance for the Social Theocrats, say Evangelical Christians and he has blown it. So my prediction stands the choice will have to be Rudi or a Mormon, what will it be? Time to get your own party.
September 20th, 2006 at 5:01 pmPublicus. You seem like a rational person. I have been looking all over this site for one thing. What do Democrats/Liberals/Progressives really stand for? What are they all about? Please give me an answer that does not just I hate Bush.
Comment by Kevin
What does Kevin stand for?
September 20th, 2006 at 5:03 pmAll I see is that his ‘party’ has screwed him over, again.
Looks like I’m the only one that can vote in VA. So the rest of you don’t count.
September 20th, 2006 at 5:03 pmThe point is Article VI prohibits religious tests for public office, so all of these blatant anti-Jewish, anti-Christian, anti-religion comments are not only ugly, they also violate one of our most basic constitutional principles. This spectacle exposes the dark fascist underbelly of the left. As for Mitt Romney, (or anyone else) the last thing I would consider about him as a candidate would be his religious affiliation.
Comment by Citizen+Dad — September 20, 2006 @ 4:47 pm
And what GOVERNMENT ENTITY is “oppressing” Mr Allen with a religious test? Reporters, the public, constituents asking questions DO NOT FALL UNDER ANY SUCH prohibition. And further if you are comparing a grandfather who according to George was “in the resistance” and comparing that to an alcoholic aunt, you REALLY got to work on your analogies, I know a group called the Anti Defamation League that wants a word with you.
September 20th, 2006 at 5:05 pmThis spectacle exposes the dark fascist underbelly of the left.Comment by Citizen+Dad — September 20, 2006 @ 4:47
And just for your edification: fascism-a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power BUSH, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
September 20th, 2006 at 5:08 pm“I’m wondering why so many people have http://null/ as their URL” – - Umm, it’s the default entry in the URI box. Delete it if it bothers you.
September 20th, 2006 at 5:09 pmCome on! Have you ever seen a Senator who doesn’t like pork?
September 20th, 2006 at 5:16 pmWhat’s really funny is picturing the strategizing going on among Allen and his people. “How can we make it clear I’m not a Jew? Ham sandwich? Well, some people with think that sounds too French. What about pork chops? Perfect! Sounds the right note of down-home cooking!”
Jon Stewart should have somebody – Lewis Black, maybe – report on whether the idea of dropping trou and getting out in front of the whole circumcision thing is getting any traction.
September 20th, 2006 at 5:25 pmInteresting how progs can’t wait to “out” Republicans on issues in which progs are supposed to be sooooo sensative – John Kerry “out”-ing Dick Cheney’s daughter as a lesbian, now you are “out”-ing Allen’s Jewish ethnicity? Both actions are a sign of utter desparation, as you feel November’s election slipping through your fingers.
September 20th, 2006 at 5:39 pmnow you are “outâ€-ing Allen’s Jewish ethnicity?
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler
Are you insane? Nobody’s “outing” someone for being Hebrew. And blaming Progressives for “outing” a Hebrew would be quite a shock to Progressives like Barbara Striesand. But it does point out your psych makeup, you feel that being a Hebrew is a disgrace therefore your use of “outing” someone for it. We on the other hand reveal in the diverse cultures of all people. And we are surprised when republofascists want to “hide” the fact they have ethnic roots in order to “look” like a “WASP”.
September 20th, 2006 at 5:54 pmReporters, the public, constituents asking questions DO NOT FALL UNDER ANY SUCH prohibition. And further if you are comparing a grandfather who according to George was “in the resistance†and comparing that to an alcoholic aunt, you REALLY got to work on your analogies . . .
Hey, I’m encouraging you to ask any questions you want. Of course, if you want to ask idiotic or bigoted questions that is your business.
As for anologies, you miss the point. It’s not the stigma of a particular kind of secret that often causes it to be kept “in the closet.” It’s the pain of remembering the suffering of a loved one – suffering that the family often prefers not to relive. The pain of Nazi persecution, or the memory of what that persecution did to one’s family, falls as easily into that category (regardless of religious persuasion) as the effects of alcoholism or other kinds of family secrets.
In the end, it is sometimes the better part of valor to look forward to the future, rather than dwell upon the past. That’s certainly one way for the son of a “Jewish” Tunisian mother to become a pork chop eating Presbyterian senator from Virginia. And no shame attaches, no matter which analogy one uses.
Bottom line: This whole thing is good for George Allen. Keep up the good work.
September 20th, 2006 at 5:54 pmIn the end, it is sometimes the better part of valor to look forward to the future, rather than dwell upon the past. That’s certainly one way for the son of a “Jewish†Tunisian mother to become a pork chop eating Presbyterian senator from Virginia. And no shame attaches, no matter which analogy one uses.
Bottom line: This whole thing is good for George Allen. Keep up the good work.
Comment by Citizen+Dad — September 20, 2006 @ 5:54
The only bigot here is you. If you don’t remember the past you’re doomed to repeat it, looks like you and the current crop of neocon fascists are doomed to repeat what happened to your fascist predecessors right down to the prison camps with the “Jewish” resistance. No one can respect a man ashamed of his our past, and if you think that’s good for “Macacca” Allen you’re as stupid as I think you are.
September 20th, 2006 at 6:24 pmI still haven’t figure out how some people are born christian and others are born catholic, some are also born atheists,…now you expect me to believe that people are born jewish?
I mean, does our DNA hold biblical text, of any kind, within it?
How have you come to put the cart before the ass?
September 20th, 2006 at 6:28 pmBy the way Citizen, I don’t know ANYONE who hides their involvement in the Nazi/WW II resistance. haven’t you noticed all those Holocoust Memorials? You need some reality testing. The WHOLE point of those memorials is to NEVER forget and NEVER cease to discuss it so it can’t happen again. You’re in for a really big surprise after the 1800 torture fotos and 6 videos from Gitmo make it to the public airways, the word republican may very well be the modern “Nazi”. And for your further education, the Hebrews in this country support the Democrats.
September 20th, 2006 at 6:28 pmPeople are too damn caught up in ideological battles that none here can ever prove or disprove.
My God is better than your God and can kick your Gods ass mentality…
September 20th, 2006 at 6:32 pmBy the way Citizen, I don’t know ANYONE who hides their involvement in the Nazi/WW II resistance. haven’t you noticed all those Holocoust Memorials? You need some reality testing. The WHOLE point of those memorials is to NEVER forget and NEVER cease to discuss it so it can’t happen again.
Uh, no, I suppose you wouldn’t “know ANYONE who hides their involvement in the Nazi/WW II resistance” – unless they weren’t hiding it very well.
And I think we are still free enough in America that George allen’s parents and grandparents don’t need your ex post facto permission or approval as to how they deal with memories of the Holocaust. In any event, their choices have nothing to do with Allen himself – except for your insistence on turning him into a self-hating Jew. You really ought o be ashamed of yourself.
September 20th, 2006 at 6:42 pmCitizen, here’s a representative sample of how “Jewish” people feel about Georgie, unless you speak for them too.
Practicing or not, according to Jewish law (and the Nazis), he’s a Jew. Anti-Semites and murders don’t care if you go to shul (or kal) or not. They care that you have Jewish ancestry — something along the same lines of the “one drop rule.”
One would have hoped that Allen would have embraced the news as a means to better understand the horrors of racism and open his eyes to the fact that the bigotry which he has embraced throughout his life caused his ancestors to be murdered.
Instead, he used the opportunity to reassert his Christian bona fides, while pissing on his Jewish heritage at the same time.
Yep, a good ole boy who is a racist bigot and wants everyone to know he’s “white” thru and thru, yep that’s great for our country. Nazis all.
September 20th, 2006 at 6:55 pmbones. That’s interesting sentiment. I would like to remind so many on the site that your man Ahmedinejad denies the Holocaust happened at all. But you are willing to portray Bush as an evil lunatic and Ahmedinejad as a peace loving ruler.
September 20th, 2006 at 7:04 pm#66, bones,
Republicans don’t wear their ethnicity like a badge to try to score free points with the electorate. I am certain that Allen wasn’t HIDING his grandfather’s ethnicity – no Republican would think it makes a difference. I love how you “out” someone, then try to act like Dick Cheney or George Allen is the person with some sort of problem, because they don’t use these trivialities to score points like progs do. Are you trying to say that Reps must disclose every personal fact about their families, or they are some sort of bigot? Quite the contrary, if it TRULY doesn’t matter, then one does NOT bring it up. It MATTERS to progs, who do bring it up, and you will see once again, that it will anger the electorate, just like it angered Independents when John Kerry “outed” Cheney’s lesbian daughter.
September 20th, 2006 at 7:08 pmPaul, Jason, Jason, Paul. Now the two of you can gannon out and torture some little boys.
September 20th, 2006 at 7:15 pmBut you are willing to portray Bush as an evil lunatic and Ahmedinejad as a peace loving ruler.
Comment by paul — September 20, 2006 @ 7:04 pm
Get it right paul- Bush is an evil lunatic, I never said anything about Ahmedinejad, it’s the voices in your head that did.
September 20th, 2006 at 7:17 pm–Republicans don’t wear their ethnicity like a badge to try to score free points with the electorate.
Sure they do Jason – white, bigoted, klansman
–I am certain that Allen wasn’t HIDING his grandfather’s ethnicity – no Republican would think it makes a difference.
Oh sure they do Jason, you don’t want those “Jews” in the Country Club
– I love how you “out†someone, then try to act like Dick Cheney or George Allen is the person with some sort of problem, because they don’t use these trivialities to score points like progs do.
Unless of course they are some kind of brown person and need to be tortured or prevented from immigrating or you need them to cut the grass or clean the pool.
–Are you trying to say that Reps must disclose every personal fact about their families, or they are some sort of bigot?
No, but I’d think the man knew his grandfather, or at least heard he had a grandfather, unless of course he really is that stupid, great reason to vote for him.
–you will see once again, that it will anger the electorate, just like it angered Independents when John Kerry “outed†Cheney’s lesbian daughter.
I’m sorry Cheney wants his daughter to go to hell. I personally think that’s harsh. But if you think denying you’re Jewish will endear a rascist, bigot to Americans you’re in for a surprise!”One would have hoped that Allen would have embraced the news as a means to better understand the horrors of racism and open his eyes to the fact that the bigotry which he has embraced throughout his life caused his ancestors to be murdered.
Instead, he used the opportunity to reassert his Christian bona fides, while pissing on his Jewish heritage at the same time.”
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — September 20, 2006 @ 7:08 pm
September 20th, 2006 at 7:23 pmOne would have hoped that Allen would have embraced the news as a means to better understand the horrors of racism and open his eyes to the fact that the bigotry which he has embraced throughout his life caused his ancestors to be murdered.
Instead, he used the opportunity to reassert his Christian bona fides, while pissing on his Jewish heritage at the same time.
Yep, a good ole boy who is a racist bigot and wants everyone to know he’s “white†thru and thru, yep that’s great for our country. Nazis all.
Only in the balkanized mindset of the left does a politician have a duty to “embrace his heritage” to the 3rd or 4th generation and “open his eyes” to self-hatred. Only in the bigoted world of the left would any public figure who simply considers himself to be an American – as opposed to a hyphenated American – be called a “good ole boy,” a “Nazi,” or a “racist bigot.”
Of course, if that person happens to be black (Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice) or Jewish (Joe Lieberman, Michael Medved), the left always reverts to the self-hatred meme. It never fails – because that is the left’s only explanation for a person’s failure to conform to the ideology of victimhood.
BTW, I notice that all you other progs are starngely silent. You must really enjoy having “bones” on your side.
September 20th, 2006 at 7:52 pmOnly in the balkanized mindset of the left does a politician have a duty to “embrace his heritage†to the 3rd or 4th generation and “open his eyes†to self-hatred. Only in the bigoted world of the left would any public figure who simply considers himself to be an American – as opposed to a hyphenated American – be called a “good ole boy,†a “Nazi,†or a “racist bigot.â€
–Yeah funny how that works, when you’re a racist bigot and a Nazi people have a tendency to call you one. Just like when you’re a murderer people have a tendency to call you that, it’s funny like that, huh?
Of course, if that person happens to be black (Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice) or Jewish (Joe Lieberman, Michael Medved), the left always reverts to the self-hatred meme. It never fails – because that is the left’s only explanation for a person’s failure to conform to the ideology of victimhood.
–Yeah like I said above, immediately taking about minorities and religions then calling them names and inferior, a racist bigot. Yeah you’ve got it down. Great impression of a racist bigot.
BTW, I notice that all you other progs are starngely silent. You must really enjoy having “bones†on your side.
Comment by Citizen+Dad — September 20, 2006 @ 7:52 pm
That’s because they know better than to try to change the mind of a truely horrible person( hat tip stewart).
September 20th, 2006 at 8:20 pmMA, I am a Parker and likely related to Bonnie as I have Texan blood. Beware.
September 20th, 2006 at 9:22 pmPublius, are you that stupid? Take Bush, do the exact opposite. That is what Dems are for.
September 20th, 2006 at 9:26 pmCitizen ‘dad’ …I feel sorry for your child, whom will become just as sickeningly hateful as you.
September 20th, 2006 at 9:29 pm#79 you’re worried that republicans don’t want jews in the country club. i’m worried that democrats don’t want jews in israel.
September 20th, 2006 at 9:33 pm#26 – Kevin,
September 20th, 2006 at 10:23 pmRick Santorum and Tom Delay pop right to mind.
I’m sorry Cheney wants his daughter to go to hell
Jason, heres the main problem with you so called ‘moralists’.
It’s’ YOU and the ‘Ideology’ that you follow that wants his daughter to go to hell. You are blaming Dick Cheney for his daughters sexual preference and her burning, eventually, in hell.
Hmm. So it’s okay for you to judge other people and their children by YOUR ideology but how dare anybody ever judge Mr. Morals here by THEIR ideology.
Your a Hypocrite thru and thru Jason, and you always will be with that holier than thou self diatribe. You say Liberals [Lesbians etc] should be destroyen, yet when someone points out that a Republicans daughter is a lesbian its suddenly no problem, except that he wants his daughter to burn in hell, Well thats OK!
Your such a flip flopping hypocritic twit Jason ‘Seixon’, just give up the ghost already..
September 21st, 2006 at 2:27 amTrue, the nature of Allen’s ancestry is only an “interesting nuance”; but his evasiveness and changing story line raise legitimate and pertinent questions about his character.
I’m particularly intrigued by his repeated statements that his grandfather Felix Lumbroso was an “anti-Nazi resistance fighter” who was “incarcerated” by the “Nazis.”
Indeed, several members of that old and distinguished Tunisian family were active members of the Resistance; Lucien Lumbroso, in particular, was decorated with the Croix de Guerre. But Felix is nowhere mentioned in the rosters of Resistance fighters.
It is quite possible that Felix was one of the thousands of working-age Jews (among others) who were interned in forced labor camps or on farms during 1942-3, and who simply walked home upon the collapse of the German-Italian occupation. But this would not seem to justify the family’s traumatized silence over his “incarceration.”
Alternatively, if Felix — whose family is said to have been Tunis’ leading wine and spirits importer, and which must therefore have had dealings with Vichy France and Fascist Italy — was one of the faction of Italian Tunisians who welcomed the Axis occupation and in fact collaborated with the occupiers, the situation would have been quite different. These people were (briefly) “incarcerated” by the Allies in the same labor camps that had housed Jews only weeks earlier.
All of this will certainly be more thoroughly scrutinized if and when Senator Allen attempts to become President Allen.
September 21st, 2006 at 5:38 amStill the only Vote that counts.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:58 amJohn Kerry “outed†Cheney’s lesbian daughter.
(another ignoran t) comment by Jason M. Hendler
Jason,
September 21st, 2006 at 11:13 pmMary Cheney worked as a liaison to the gay/lesbian community for Coors Beer long before Kerry even sought the Democratic nomination for president. In other words, her lesbianism was well known to many years before the Presidential debates; Kerry didn’t out her.
But since you bring this up, when incumbent Ann Richardson was running for governor against George Bush, registered voters in Texas started receiving phone calls asking if they “would vote for Gov. Richardson if they knew she’s a lesbian” of “if she has hired many lesbians”–very similar to the calls circulating before the South Carolina primary in 2000, when people were asked if they would vote for John McCain if they knew he’d fostered a black child out of wedlock.” (In reality, McCain and his wife have adopted a dark-skinned daughter from the Indian subcontinent.) Of course, I’m sure you won’t see the filthy hand of Karl Rove in all this.
Senator George Allen is Jewish! As a Jewish- American, Senator George Allen should have shown a higher degree of sensitivity and care with regards to racist conduct. His mother, Henrietta Lumbroso, was a Jewish immigrant of Tunisian/Italian/French background. Trying to portray himself as a WASPY “good old boy” from Virginia just shows how dishonest, elitist, and racist he actually is.
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