Always listen to experts. They’ll tell you what can’t be done, and why. Then do it. ~ Robert A. Heinlein

I Googled for something completely different, but found your page…and have to say thanks. nice read.

Just wanted to drop a note to let you know what a great site you have. It is a great resource and a great place to drop by.

According to the spreadsheet, the sources for Citgo are Citgo’s subsidiaries in those countries.

The explanatory notes say nothing about the source being Citgo subsidiaries. That is country of origin and you can look up the companies operating in those countries. I gave you the majors operating in Algeria for example. Besides, Citgo does not have subsidiaries with lease holdings or drilling operations in those countries.

Then again, maybe you would like to tell me in what countries Citgo, or a subsidiary is exploring, drilling and extracting oil.

My response was relevant to the first few posters who believe they were not giving their money to Exxon, et al when they by Citco gas.

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I stopped buying gas from Exxon and not just because of this crap either. I refuse to be ripped off for gas twice. First at the pump and one more time when i pay my taxes. Billions in Bush Tax Cuts have been given to the big oil companies already. They got their money. I buy from Citgo (Venezuala) and Lukoil (Russia).

Citgo will pay Exxon, et al to extract oil they share rights to, or oil they don’t have rights to (an example, sources from the other countries). Your purchase of Citgo gas is also providing Exxon, et al revenue. The first few posters don’t realize that Citgo uses their revenue to purchase Exxon, et al gas, thereby profiting Exxon, et al. Maybe I misunderstood them and like you are okay with giving a little money to Exxon, et al instead of all of it. Somehow, I don’t think so.

#28 – irrelevant. Buying from the Citgo stations flows funds to the national oil company of Venezuela irrespective of the origin of the gasoline actually pumped. Pay more attention in school honey dipper, the economics class and the critical thinking classes are important.

This statement is really meaningless now. And what is “origin of the gasoline actually pumped”? Pumped from where? The station, the refinery, the ground?

The profits for Citgo go 100pct to Venezuela.

Profit goes to Citgo, but revenue is use to pay Exxon, et al. They also get 100% of their profit…provided by your purchase of Citgo gas. Part of your $2.60+/gal is being used to pay for Exxon, et al’s product. PDVA would get 100% of revenue and profit if they operated exclusively without partners. But they don’t. Citgo.com details a few of those partnerships that I listed previously.

Either you always agreed Exxon, et al was receiving revenue and thought a personal attack in place of facts made a convincing argument, or you’re shifting your argument from a position thinking no revenue was going to Exxon, et al in PVDA deals, or you have no argument at all. Whatever, but you now agree that Exxon, et al receive revenue and profits from your purchase of Citgo gas (refined Exxon, et al gas).

Here’s the money quote.
“The company is owned by PDV America, Inc., an indirect, wholly owned subsidiary of Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A., the national oil company of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela that pays Exxon, et al $60+/barrel plus lease payments, plus royalties to extract and produce oil, thereby receiving revenue and profits from Citgo and it’s customers”.

Regardless, Citgo oil (parts of which are Exxon, et al oil) gets comingled with oil from different sources (Exxon, et al), just as described in the EIA brochure I linked above.

Here’s your link, and here’s the money quote:

“The company is owned by PDV America, Inc., an indirect, wholly owned subsidiary of Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A., the national oil company of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.”

And that Honey, is all you need to know….thanks for playing.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/cli.html

Of course, we’re still waiting for your source for this ridiculous statement…

You do realize that much of the oil would require more energy to retrieve than it supplies?

Citgo partners with these evil oil companies that thank you for adding to their profits when you purchase Citgo petroleum base products imported from the Orinico Belt:

ConocoPhillips, ExxonMobil and ChevronTexaco

These companies have a 40-50% in the production of Venezuelan oil.

Beyond Venezuela Citgo processes and refines petroleum products from the Virgin Islands, Mexico, Algeria, Brazil, Columbia, Norway and Ecuador – production from companies such as ConocoPhillips, ExxonMobil and ChevronTexaco, BP and Anadarko with services provided by Halliburton (see Algeria).

Keep on buying Citco. The oil companies you hate thank you for your ignorance.

Ditto. Same here. It’s about time these efforts have begun to pay off, and that liberals are starting to grow spines and get that being pacifists doesn’t mean being passive…

This is good news. Let’s keep the pressure on the neocons. They are cracking from it!

Where’s the hate in saying you like guys with big noses?

The reason I KNOW you are a woman is directly related to how the women I know deal with people. A man would not be so condescending in every single post. Not even Al Franken can be hateful all the time…. But Stephanie Miller and Maureen Dowd can be. You are a parrot of both. It’s like you read their articles, go to the websites they tell you to, and have no mind of your own. Speaking of which, I have yet to meet a man that would write ROTFL in every single post. Are you ever gonna get off the floor? Do you ever stop laughing, because it is definitely you who is beyond being reasonable. I’ve tried to be reasonable with you several times in the past and you can do nothing but attack me, and other liberals have backed me up. So I’m done trying with you… I will hold nothing back and will call you any name I please.
I hope you have the dinner on the table, dad should be home from work any time now mom.
BTW… while you’re on the floor laughing, would you please mop it up, you’ve been there so long it’s gotten stinky and dirty…

#28 – irrelevant. Buying from the Citgo stations flows funds to the national oil company of Venezuela irrespective of the origin of the gasoline actually pumped. Pay more attention in school honey dipper, the economics class and the critical thinking classes are important.

#24 – rogx2 – The Oil Drum – the calibre of the posters will impress you. They will help you understand why a ton of oil shale in Alberta is not the answer to disappearing West Texas Int.. Start with the Chevron Jack discovery…it is an interesting analysis. Chevron does not want anyone to know Jack about Jack. Yes the age of cheap oil is over – sorry to disappoint. Did you not read the discussion of why Opec thinks that $60 is the new baseline?

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/press/reports/full-report-exxon-s-weapons-o

It’s a good ‘un.

Okay btruthiness, as soon as you read the HOLY BIBLE, I’ll read your propaganda books. then maybe we can read MY PET GOAT (lol). Heow’s about Cyrano DeBergerac, I know you New York housewives love guys with big noses!!!
You Are too funny

You are a parody of common sense

You make me laugh mom!