In a new interview with Foreign Policy magazine, right-wing “Path to 9/11″ writer Cyrus Nowrasteh was asked if he was surprised by the reaction to his biased, inaccurate film. “No, this was a witch hunt. It was like a national book burning. It’s Salem all over again.” He added, “I think the hubbub is because we got to the truth.”
NowTrash needs to up his dose of Thorazine.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:21 pmthe “truth” in quite an Orwellian way.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:21 pmthe hubbub, as you put it, was you’re a crony who wrote crap for that clown and his crew turning america into a fascist dictatorship.
Did anyone even watch that piece of garbage?
September 21st, 2006 at 12:22 pmReality Check: The hubbub was because of all the lies.
Doh!
September 21st, 2006 at 12:23 pmIt’s book burning? Salem? Excuse me, but if it were book burning, wouldn’t that have meant that “Fantasia 9/11″ would not have aired and the celluloid destroyed by fire in the public square? If it were Salem, wouldn’t that have meant that this loser would have been thrown in the lake and, if he sank, oh no witch (oops, sorry you drowned) or if he floated, oh, witch must now burn at the stake.
Last I saw, he is still very much alive expanding his evermore shrill pie hole by the day; and Fantasia 9/11 was aired (almost typed “erred” — Freudian slip?). What is it with these people and their completely over-wrought rhetoric? If there political views were not enough to make them jokes, the constant hyperbole should seal the deal as to their clownish nature. Next thing you know, political dissent in this country will be equated by these wingnut clowns and WATBs with Hitler appeasers — oh, wait –
September 21st, 2006 at 12:28 pmHow much of the movie is truth and how much fiction? “I’m not going to answer that,” he replied. “Ultimately, and I’ve found this with every docudrama I’ve done, people in the same room at the exact same moment during a major historical incident can have completely different versions of what happened. It’s the Rashomon effect.”
What about if the people were never in the room and the room doesn’t even exist?…wouldv’e been my next question. I guess lieing comes easy when you are fanatical. It’s the Rove Effect.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:29 pmTruth is such a simple word.
I’m surprised he’s using it so incorrectly.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:29 pmCyrus wrote a documentary on the events of 9/11 with several outright lies in it, claimed it was the official story based on the 9/11 commission reports findings, despite the fact that those scenes directly contradicted the report, did not have the common decency to even interview the people who were actually there, at the time, and now he is crying about the fact that he is considered to be a total liar? Gee whizz, I wonder why?
September 21st, 2006 at 12:30 pmI can’t tell which is worse about right wingers: their extreme hypocrisy, or their histrionic self-righteousness when called on it.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:33 pmThis fool just can’t believe everyone didn’t gobble up his steaming pile of bullshit, and come running back for more. Typical RW process: tell a lie and expect to get away with it, but if you get called on your shit, scream witch hunt!
September 21st, 2006 at 12:33 pm“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.â€
- Joseph Goebbels
September 21st, 2006 at 12:34 pmRun along and get started on your screenplay for FoxFaith Films now, Mr. Nowrawasethwrawsteh.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:40 pmyep and these people are running the Nazi playbook page by page.
NOW IS THE TIME TO DO WHAT JEFFERSON SAID MUST BE DONE IN TIMES LIKE THESE
September 21st, 2006 at 12:41 pmI hope his career and well-being are ruined.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:55 pm#13. Yes, good men should stand up to ensure the U.S. does not impede the sovern right of middle eastern dictators to repress the rights of its people. Who’s with me!
September 21st, 2006 at 12:55 pm#15 – well holy non-sequitur, Batman!
September 21st, 2006 at 1:06 pmPaul, show me an oppressive dictator, and I’ll show you a US installed tool. That’s our game; we set ‘em up, we knock ‘em down, we make money. The “rights of the people” is often the excuse, but rarely the reason. Wave that little plastic flag.
September 21st, 2006 at 1:09 pmpaul in typical Republican fashion has to make up something that nobody said. Good job. Nobody here is buying it. Move along silly troll.
September 21st, 2006 at 1:10 pmFurther proof, as the study portrayed, that right wingers are “Whiney Ass Tittie Babies” that always feel victimized.
September 21st, 2006 at 1:27 pmIt if was so true why did it have to be edited to take out blatently false material?
September 21st, 2006 at 1:30 pmOn the basis of individual credibility, if we are to believe that he is not in fact “a witch” in this witch hunt, then we might just as easily assume that Chavez was correct in calling Bush “the Devil.”
September 21st, 2006 at 1:37 pmTypical Rightie garbage. He got to spew his lies all over network T.V., and that’s just dandy. But have the nerve to tell him what you think about it, and OMG!!!, he is ‘Mr. Martyr’. ‘They’re picking on me!’ Up yours, pal. How about taking a Lie Detector test, to prove you’re telling the truth? You should be able to pass with flying colors, right?
September 21st, 2006 at 1:38 pmWell, sure, if by “truth” you mean “making stuff up,” it was very truthful indeed!
September 21st, 2006 at 1:39 pmUm, dude, at Salem they burned witches, not books. Nonetheless, we all appreciate your concern for accuracy ‘n all …
Oh, and by the way, expressing an opposing view is not the same as “book burning”. Criticizing you for making stuff up isn’t “censorship.” A-an’ freedom of speech is a two-way street.
So, you were saying?
September 21st, 2006 at 1:44 pmwhat part of …’wrong,lies,false and repub bias DOESN’T HE GET?????
September 21st, 2006 at 1:44 pmHere is some context on how we got here, i.e., on what did and didn’t happen in the time before 9/11. It is context that the US mainstream news media (predictably), the opposition party leadership (disgracefully), and the 9/11 Commission (tragically), have refused to offer you. (And, no, I am not referring to questions about what really happened at the Pentagon, or what really happened to WTC Building #7, etc. You don’t have to go there. Those questions are even, to some extent, a distraction. I am referring to what didn’t happen at the White House.)
On 9/11/01, Al Qaeda dealt the USA a savage blow. The three-pronged attack slaughtered thousands of innocents, delivered a severe economic blow, and provided Bush-Cheney with the rationale it desperately needed to force its radical agenda upon the political establishment and the populace.
At the time, the “conventional wisdom†(which would, of course, be more aptly termed “convenient half-truthsâ€) was that “the world changed on 9/11.†The world didn’t change that awful morning. The attack was simply an escalation in an ongoing struggle with Al Qaeda. The day and the hour might have been a surprised, but the attack itself was no surprise.
Several weeks earlier, on 8-6-01, Harriet Miers (yes, her) handed George W. Bush a Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB) titled “Al Qaeda Determined to Strike in The U.S.†It mentioned airplane high-jacking. But Bush did nothing.
Indeed, the “Decider†and his minions, led by Dick Cheney, had largely undone the work of the Clinton-Gore administration’s national security team.
They halted the “principles meetings,†which had been established to overcome the already-identified problem of stove-piping within the federal government’s law enforcement and intelligence agencies.
They ignored the admonitions of Clinton-Gore national security adviser Sandy Berger and Counterterrorism Czar Richard Clarke to keep the crushing of Al Qaeda as the USA’s most urgent national security action item.
They dismissed the warnings and urgent recommendations of former Sens. Gary Hart (D-CO) and Warren Rudman (R-NH), whose truly bi-partisan commission had been empowered by Clinton-Gore to present a comprehensive strategy for real homeland security.
They had their new Ambassador to Yemen tell FBI counterterrorism expert, John P. O’Neill, to back off his investigation of the attack on the US Cole. In the summer of 2001, the frustrated O’Neill resigned, and took a job as security director for the WTC, only to perish at Ground Zero on 9/11.
Remember, too, that Zacarias Moussaoui had already been arrested. And, as we know from FBI whistleblower Colleen Rawley, dedicated field agents, working the case with diligence, could not get the attention of Beltwayistan.
Both the US mainstream news media and the opposition party abdicated their responsibility to explore the implications of these facts. They wimped out, and deferred to the 9/11 Commission. The 9/11 Commission, in turn, dispersed and diluted these facts in the footnotes, and in the voluminous mass of its final report, instead of aggregating them, connecting them, and highlighting them in the lead paragraphs of its executive summary, i.e., instead of speaking truth to power, which is what the grieving survivors of the slaughtered innocents deserved.
There has been no accountability for 9/11. Bin Laden, Zawahiri and Mullah Omar are still alive. The Bush-Cheney national insecurity team, that looked the other way, is still in power. And adding inexcusable insult to profound injury, the Bush-Cheney administration and the Republican-controlled US Congress have not even followed through on the 9/11 Commission recommendations.
For the rest of this post –
Words of Power #21: Judith Miller, Ken Lay, Florida, 9/11 and The Return of The Forbidden Truths?
And for a response to the airing of “Path to 911″ –
Words of Power #28: On 9/11/06, Ask Yourself “Is This My Country?”
Richard Power
September 21st, 2006 at 1:51 pmhttp://words-of-power.blogspot.com
I’m sure his friend Rush has some oxycontin somewhere he can probably get, I mean, what are friends for?
A witch hunt?
I wonder if the same FBI agent visited cyrus as did BORe?
September 21st, 2006 at 1:53 pmNo one I knew even watched this piece of garbage fiction. The same will be trued for this dweeb’s book.
September 21st, 2006 at 1:53 pmThanks goodness that MOST americans know the difference between truth and fiction. The rest are the true sociopaths.
September 21st, 2006 at 1:54 pmThey just can’t admit when they are wrong can they? Then trying to use coloful metaphors to blame it on?
“The little green men made me do it, and the pot-boiling witches put a spell on me, it was like the inquisition, phosphorous inmy armpitsm, stretched on a rack, tortured. We proved what we didn’t know”
September 21st, 2006 at 2:04 pmHow much of the movie is truth and how much fiction? “I’m not going to answer that,” he replied.
LIES LIES LIES
September 21st, 2006 at 2:13 pmHey I saw “Path” both nights, so I can justifiably say it was dramatized like one of those “forensic files” shows. Kind of fakey. It didn’t budge me in the least one way or the other: I needed to see it so I couldn’t be called a hypocrite. It was in no way close to a documentary. It wasn’t even in the same solar system. It was just a TV show about an event. How dare Nowrasteh even hint that it “got the truth”. It had bent and plasticised scenes all over it. Sheesh. The truth is the truth, Nowrasteh, and when you bend it it’s called an INTERPRETATION.
September 21st, 2006 at 2:25 pmDoes Nowrasteh know the difference between truth and fiction? That was a very odd interview.
September 21st, 2006 at 2:28 pmi heard he was a repressed born again faggot. the whole bunch are like log cabin repubs on ice.
September 21st, 2006 at 2:39 pm#35 – Echoman, Excuse you! I’M the “born again faggot” but that’s MISTER Born Again Faggot to you! ;-)
Honestly, I’m a “born again” Christian and my partner of 6+ years is a militant agnostic. His philosophy is “I don’t know, and you don’t either!”
We get along because I keep my faith where it belongs, in my heart and soul. Rather than try to convert people by words, I live my life in such a way as to demonstrate Christianity by how I live my life.
Actions speak louder than words and MUCH louder than bumper stickers!
September 21st, 2006 at 2:53 pm“But I liked what the director had done with that sequence because I thought it symbolically represented what was going on.”
You know, the truth. Because truth IS in the eye of the symbolism holder?!
September 21st, 2006 at 3:53 pm“The Path to 9/11″ was much like “Alien Autopsy”….don’t look to closely.
September 21st, 2006 at 4:03 pmWitches weren’t burned at Salem, that is an urban myth. They were hanged (or pressed under heavy stones, to make them confess).
September 21st, 2006 at 7:19 pmNobody was burned in Salem, that is an urban legend. They were hanged. With the exception of a man who was crushed by heavy rocks, until he confessed. He wouldnt confress. He kept asking for more weight. Admit being a witch; you live and family property is taken away. Deny being a witch and you die, and property is taken away. Die without answering the question and the ‘question is null and void’; ergo, family keeps property.
No one was burned. That would be the Inquisitions, in Europe.
September 21st, 2006 at 7:25 pmsorry about the double post, I thought my first post didn’t go through.
September 21st, 2006 at 7:27 pmOkay, Fry, thanks for setting the record straight. The point is, they didn’t burn books at Salem, so Nosferatu, er, I mean Nowrasteh didn’t even get the urban legend right …
September 21st, 2006 at 10:28 pmYou are right Dave about Nowrasteh. He didn’t get things wrong. He lied, fabricated and twisted the truth.
I didn’t mean to criticize about Salem. Sorry If I offended anyone. I just wanted people to know that Nowrasteh isn’t 100% full of bullshit, he’s at 110% of bullshit.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:48 pmNo problem, Fry … actually, I appreciate your setting the record straight.
And, we agree that Nowrasteh is, ahem, factually-challenged.
So, its all good.
September 21st, 2006 at 11:07 pmIn Magical Zoolander…er, Land, heh, the truth pours from the tip of his pen.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:36 amIn the article cited, Cyrus Nowrasteh holds two opposing thoughts in his mind at the same time and sees no problem with that.
On the one hand, he says:
“The interviewer, citing obligation to truth and history — and the fact that a large number of Americans, for example, still think Saddam was involved with 9/11 — asked if he thinks he misled people. “No,” he replied, “I think the hubbub is because we got to the truth. ABC was anticipating an attack from the Republicans. No one expected an attack from where we got it.”
The whole response to 9/11 about it’s fictitious scenes presented as facts was because “we got to the truth”
How does that fit with the following, where Nowrasteh admits that he had to “collapse, conflate, and condense”:
“He defended his screenplay, saying, ‘I had to collapse the events of eight and a half years into five hours. I don’t know any other way to do it except collapse, conflate, and condense.’ He called a ‘conflation’ the quite fictional scene where Clinton aide Sandy Berger calls off the seizure of bin Laden by a nearby CIA team. As for trimming the climax of that scene — when Berger cuts off the phone line — Nowrasteh admitted it ‘wasn’t actually in the script. But I liked what the director had done with that sequence because I thought it symbolically represented what was going on.’
ABC promoted the misleading miniseries as the “The Story of *Exactly* What Happened”, “The Official True Story”, and based on “The 9/11 Commission Report”. Now the author admits that there was a “conflation” of events.
It’s too bad that the conflation of events favored the Bush administration and repeatedly bashed the Clinton Administration in the most condemning and unappealing light.
Because of the fact that “The Path to 9/11″ has already aired, many will say that this issue is over, and nothing more can be done.
I disagree. I feel that it is important to continue the fight, telling Disney and ABC that they were wrong in airing of “The Path to 9/11″. We must let corporate interests know that there is a price to pay for airing political partisan soap operas and calling them history, or “The Story of Exactly What Happened”.
To this end, I have developed a web site, http://www.BoycottForPathTo911.com, whose goal is to inform readers about the factual errors included in “The Path to 9/11″, and encourage people who feel strongly about this misuse of our public airwaves to boycott Disney, ABC, and their sponsors.
On our Boycott for Path to 9/11 web site, I list the assets of ABC and Disney available for boycott as well as contact information for readers to let ABC, Disney, and advertisers know that we do not want to see this type of partisan political film parade as history ever again. I also outline a Plan for Action to see that our message gets heard by the corporate leadership at Disney and ABC.
I have a companion blog, Boycott For The Path to 9/11 Blog for readers to share their opinions, views, and contact information for ABC, Disney, and their sponsors. In addition, I am featuring letters written to Disney/ABC by concerned citizens. Hopefully this will encourage others to write Disney, ABC, their local ABC affiliates, and advertisers on these stations and networks.
Please visit our web site and blog, and see how you can help. A boycott only makes sense if you carry it through so that Disney and ABC can see that it affects their bottom line. If you are a fan of “Lost”, “ESPN”, or “Dancing with the Stars”, select from our list of Disney and ABC assets those items that you *would* really boycott. We can make the corporate re-writers of history hear our anger.
http://www.BoycottForPathTo911.com
Boycott For The Path to 9/11 Blog
September 23rd, 2006 at 3:14 pmI read your thoughts with much amusement. As most of you can’t even spell correctly I ascertain that there is not one whole brain between the entire group. And gee where does anyone get off criticizing something they have not seen? Are you mindless idiots who beleive everything you read in the paper? Further what makes you think you’re the ones who know the truth? Do you really think the government lets’ us in on everything?
December 7th, 2006 at 12:11 pm