Matthews: ‘I Have Been…Against This Bullshit War From The Beginning’
Matthews: ‘I Have Been…Against This Bullshit War From The Beginning’
This morning on Imus, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews blasted the media for not covering the Iraq war. Matthews said that while people are still fighting and dying the Iraq, war “has been taken off television, and Bush must love it.”
Matthews said that most of the media was sold a bill of goods by the Bush administration, but that he’s been “a voice out there against this bullshit war from the beginning.” He added that Cheney was “totally wrong” about Iraq but still “talks like God on television, and we are supposed to believe every word.” Watch it:
Transcript:
MATTHEWS: It is like we are at war — we have killed 15,000 people that died over there in that war, we still get guys knocked off every couple of days, a couple more guys are killed — and yet it is not on the tube. It’s like, are we bored with the war now? Is that the new thing? We don’t cover a war guys are fighting? And I watch the news, I don’t see the war any more. It has been taken off television, and Bush must love it. Certainly Karl Rove loves the fact that the Iraq War has gotten boring for the American people.
IMUS: It probably had something to do with the tainted spinach, you know, if you’ve been thinking about it.
MATTHEWS: How can we be in a war and not watch it?
IMUS: Well, I don’t know, that’s a good question.
[snip]
IMUS: It must make you uncomfortable to read Frank Rich’s book, “The Greatest Story Ever Sold,” because it’s Frank’s essential thesis that they sold us this bill of goods — the administration did, you know Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld all them about the Iraq war — and it was you and the rest of the media went along with them…
MATTHEWS: Me?
IMUS: …like enablers with an alcoholic.
MATTHEWS: No. no. no. no. Don. Dono. You can check everything. Get your Nexis-Lexis out. Get your google out. Every column I have written from the day they started talking about Iraq has been against it. Now you are chuckling because you know damn well you’ve pulled my chain here. I have been a voice out there against this bullshit war from the beginning.
IMUS: OK, well, except you then.
MATTHEWS: OK. That’s nicer.
IMUS: Do we have to edit that for the radio, Lou?
PRODUCER: Yeah, we got it.
MATTHEWS: I have never used it ’til now because it was never more appropo. But you are right. The amazing thing is the President is winning now with a hand with nothing in it. They were wrong about the WMD, wrong about the connection to 9/11. Cheney said he didn’t even know there was going to be a war when we went in there. He was totally wrong, and yet he talks like god on television, and we are supposed to believe every word.
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Hes right …… everyday this month except the 5th of the month American troops have died, this month alone 50 American and the UK 3 averaging 2.57 troops everyday
whats more freightening is that there is NO media in Afghanistan ………anything could be happening there too
September 21st, 2006 at 8:42 amSee? It wasnt so hard to say. Way to go, Mr. Matthews.
September 21st, 2006 at 8:43 amEh, big hairy deal. Way to go, Tweety. Too bad your saying on Imus where no one is listening or watching.
September 21st, 2006 at 8:45 amAmerica’s Least Wanted
Is this the same Matthews that does Hardball? Cause all I ever hear is him kissing Bush’s butt or attacking Dems. Who is this masked man???
September 21st, 2006 at 8:54 am#4 – AN: One and the same – and strangely enough, he’s been much more critical on Hardball as well. He must have bumped his head or something.
September 21st, 2006 at 8:59 amlying pathetic fat loser hes part of the problem like so many others
September 21st, 2006 at 9:02 amSmall quibble but the transcript shows that Imus made the comment about Cheney, not Mathews.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:03 amHe did the ass-kissing in the beginnng of the interview w/ the “mummy” where he said Bush has looked good w/ the long winded speeches he has conducted recently. He said that the public likes the Prez when he is out front on a topic instead of in the background. he apparently must be watching somebody else speak because I think most people stopped listening a long time ago! matthews tries to come off as “balanced” when on imus then goes back to the G.E. approved propaganda when back on t.v….can you say paid FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!
September 21st, 2006 at 9:08 amAnd where has this Chris Mathews been for the past three years? Is this the same Chris Mathews that I stopped watching two years? Did I misconstrue all that obsequious acqueiscence to Bush and the Republican talking points?
September 21st, 2006 at 9:10 amThere is a gigantic shift to the left happening in this country. On issues from the war to global warming everyone involved in politics in this country is moveing. The funny thing is that there is no talk about the shifting of the country to the left like there was five or six years ago talking about how the country was becoming more conservative.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:10 amTranscript fixed. Thanks.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:11 amThose comments don’t square with his behavior and his previous attitude toward Bush. He sees Olbermann’s popularity and he must want a piece of it.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:17 amThe Iraq war was part of Cheney’s Energy proposal… the secret part that he didn’t want to share with Congress and the rest of the American people. Cheney is a TRAITOR to our country and should be dealt with as a TRAITOR.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:19 amMatthews’ ratings are even more abysmal as Keith Odormann’s:
CABLE NEWS RACE
TUES. SEPT 19, 2006
VIEWERS
FOXNEWS O’REILLY 1,932,000
September 21st, 2006 at 9:25 amFOXNEWS SHEP SMITH 1,405,000
FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,396,000
FNC BRIT HUME 1,381,000
FNC GRETA 1,284,000
CNN WOLF BLITZER 912,000
CNN LOU DOBBS 848,000
CNN COOPER 790,000
CNN ZAHN 783,000
CNNHN GRACE 770,000
CNN KING 706,000
MSNBC SCARBOROUGH 444,000
MSNBC ODORMANN 444,000
CNNHN BECK 425,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 413,000
There is a gigantic shift to the left happening in this country. On issues from the war to global warming everyone involved in politics in this country is moveing.
Comment by brad — September 21, 2006 @ 9:10 am
Ok, a clarification. There is no left in the US with some really small exceptions. What you have is liberals and conservatives: they can differ in some issues like abortion, crime fighting, welfare, etc, but they will never fight in real deep issues like economic system, foreign affairs or the role of US in the world. What you have is a really hardcore right and moderates. The US middle class is the strongest bourgeoisie in the world who seldom asks itself about the consequence of its actions: savage consumption of resources to obtain commodities. The real left can be found, as always, in Europe who has the highest social conscience laboring mass. Just ask Villepin.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:27 amChris Matthews – this is the same person who’s brother is running for Lt. Gov. of PA with frat boy Bush’s puppet, Lynn Swann. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:28 am#11 – Brad, I’m not so sure it’s a move to the left so much as it’s a move away from the far-right and towards the center.
The Republican party has become the party of one opinion “You’re either with them or against them” and they’ve alienated anyone who’s even remotely moderate. Republicans have made it quite clear that they will not tolerate dissenting opinions. Well, except now that Pres. Bush has become an electoral liability they’ve suddenly started to say “Hey, us Republicans aren’t rubber stamps for Pres. Bush! Just ignore the past 6 years of us rubber stamping anything (and everything) he’s ever asked for!”
Democrats have been a much more open party, including liberals/moderates/conservatives and every shade between. That’s been a liability to the Democratic party in trying to get their voice heard. When you’re an open party you have many different points of view and you’re less likely to reach consensus. A Democratic strength is that with such a wide base we include more centrist positions than Republicans. This is why the Democrats have been majority party 56 % of the time over the past 150 years, and the Republicans 44%. Sometimes, extremism does gain a temporary foothold, as evidenced by the last 12 years of the House. It always loses to American moderation.
I think the Republicans are trying to claim they’ve always been independent even when their history has proven them to be sycophants of the neo-con extremism. I hope the American public maintains enough of an attention span to remember the Republicans wanting to impose their misguided agenda on everyone just because they’ve temporarily held majority status.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:28 am#14 – Tom, let me guess. You got those numbers from Drudge.
Should’ve known it wasn’t from a reliable source, only from a majorly biased right-whiner.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:33 amTom – scary numbers… you mean to tell me that there are still 1,932,000 ignorant assholes out there that watch O’Reilly? That’s sad. Doesn’t say much for the intelligence of the American people. Guess Bush’s No Child Left Behind scheme is working… no child will be denied the opportunity to remain ignorant and uneducation – that’s Bush’s No Child Left Behind program. If you doubt my comment… ask a teacher.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:34 amJuan+C
Lets put it this way: The centre is to the left of the right, and right now the right is dying from its own excess. Change is in the air, and that change is going to be good.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:34 amA whore like Tweety wakes up once in while with his ass up in the air and Karl Rove pounding away on his huge ass and starts to panic a little. My suggestion is to bitch slap him with your size 14 Chucks until he stops sniveling. Tweedy is a good whore and quite an earner so we have to be patient with him.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:36 amGood try Tom. Your stats are a 1 day snapshot, not any kind of average for a year or month or week or whatever. What your info does not show is how much Countdown’s ratings have gone UP from a year ago and how much FOX’s ratings (all Cheney sock puppets included) have gone DOWN! How about posting those stats, my little mathematician?
September 21st, 2006 at 9:42 amI remember watching Hardball on the day Bush landed on that aircraft carrier in 2003. Tweety sounded like Bush was some conquering hero and I don’t recall Tweety questioning whether it was a dress-up publicity stunt.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:43 amYes, I agree there is no left in the US.
Also, what I was attempting to point out is how the media is covering this political shift from towards more Democratic stances (one might call center left or centrist). How when the Republicans came to power there was alot of talk of the publics shift to the right, compared with now when they talk of a political shift to the left. The public of course never really moved right and what we are witnessing now could be called a (slight) return to popular political stances.
Wheather this will be good or bad, or if it will even give the Dems a majority, has yet to be seen. One thing that did help the Repugs was the way the media discourse talked about a shift in public opinion, which we all know has an actual effect on public opinion.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:47 amTom the puppet , telling more lies. As for tweety this is the same man who said a short while back…”I can’t believe that people don’t like bush”…yep heard that one with my own ears…..he a FAKE, blows with the hot air he puts out.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:50 amThe more TV talking heads like Matthews belittles the Iraq War, and the Bush Regime, then all the better for America! The war must end and Bush must be impeached and Cheney too!
September 21st, 2006 at 9:53 amYa the same Tweety that could see Bohners/Boners/whatever “Greatness”.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:54 amMatthews’ ratings are even more abysmal as Keith Odormann’s
September 21st, 2006 at 9:59 amComment by Tom
So, Tom, who do you like in the race over the cliff, the decider lemming or the very last lemming follower into the abyss?
It was disgusting watching Tweety go on and on with things like “Look at that codpiece!” It gave me the impression that he wanted to see what was under that codpiece.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:02 amMatthews has ruined himself, no one can possibly take him seriously anymore, even when he’s making sense. He’s an attenion whore.
Tomorrow he’ll probably have another on-air make out session with Tom DeLay.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:03 amhe a FAKE, blows with the hot air he puts out.
Comment by wisedup
Ok, I take back last part of what I said in #2.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:03 amI think Matthews got pissed, not because Imus unfairly lumped him in with the rest of the lapdog press, but because Imus called him out and was chuckling listing to him try to wiggle his way out. Matthews now knows (finally) this is/was a bulls**t war, but he wasn’t always like that. He isn’t quite the suck up they have at Fox, but at times he hasn’t been much different. Kudos to Imus for calling him out. Tip O’Neil must be spinning in his grave knowing this guy once worked for him.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:07 amNo need to take it back, Juan. Somebody needs to start saying this stuff, and even though we at TP know what Matthews is, many people do not, and maybe they’ll start listening to him. One way or another, the word has to get out. :)
September 21st, 2006 at 10:14 amThe same tweety that loves DeLay, Coulter, and Lott. The same tweety that when talking about Clinton and 9/11 said “We know he didn’t stop it.” Yes, get your google and nexis-lexis out and check out what he’s said. Better still, check out Media Matters. Tweety’s got more hits than Elvis.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:15 amTweety was “against the war” before he was for the “for” the people who were for it. And now that it’s safe to bleet about how “against” it he was the rest of can bask in his moral consistancy.
Whatta guy!
September 21st, 2006 at 10:18 amOne way or another, the word has to get out. :)
Comment by Zooey
Hi, Zoo. That smiley looks radiant today. :)
September 21st, 2006 at 10:18 amMatthews is absolutely right. I have been a regular DAILY watcher of his show since 1999 and he ALWAYS was against the war. Always. In the months before the Iraq invasion he was all over this issue and he thought it was absolutely wrong to launch an unprovoked attack against any nation. He said it again and again on many, many broadcasts.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:20 amFOXNEWS O’REILLY 1,932,000
FOXNEWS SHEP SMITH 1,405,000
FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,396,000
FNC BRIT HUME 1,381,000
FNC GRETA 1,284,000
CNN WOLF BLITZER 912,000
CNN LOU DOBBS 848,000
CNN COOPER 790,000
CNN ZAHN 783,000
CNNHN GRACE 770,000
CNN KING 706,000
MSNBC SCARBOROUGH 444,000
MSNBC ODORMANN 444,000
CNNHN BECK 425,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 413,000
I never watch any of these Pundit shows…they could all dissapear off the Airwaves and I would never know or care. Really all they offer is little insight and alot of finger pointing at groups they have each lumped or associated themselves with or against.
The non-stop finger pointing political olympics.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:21 am[unenthusiastical] weee…
And what the heck is an IMUS?
September 21st, 2006 at 10:22 amMathews is so right, and he was one of the few in the main stream media who at least at the courage to question the wisdom, purpose, necessity, tactics and philosphy behind the war.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:28 amHi, Zoo. That smiley looks radiant today. :)
Comment by Juan+C
And your charm is brilliant, Juan. :)
I’m off to work, hope to see you around this evening!
September 21st, 2006 at 10:28 amMatthews is right on, and has been one of the few main stram media voices who had doubts about this was rom the beginning.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:30 amHow long has it been since Tweetie said that the only people who disliked Bush were left-wing wackos???
September 21st, 2006 at 10:32 amHe also talked about how Bush’s popularity was rising. How people like it when Bush gets out and explains things. Matthews doesn’t think Bush’s war performance is particularly important, nor the fact that Bush lied to get us into war. Matthews also said that the republicans are going to keep the senate and probably the house. If he’s so anti-war, and he really believes that Bush is popular the Republicans will retain control, why isn’t he screaming?
September 21st, 2006 at 10:33 amI also remember Tweety describing Bush as having a “golden aura” about him. Remember when he suggested Bush’s bust be carved on Mt. Rushmore? I knew those words would come back to haunt him then. SHUT UP, CHRIS MATTHEWS, YOU ARE AN OPPORTUNISTIC LEACH.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:42 am“How long has it been since Tweetie said that the only people who disliked Bush were left-wing wackos??? ”
If Imus wasn’t a right wing shil, he’d have asked Matthews this question.
If Matthews wasn’t a right wing shil, he wouldn’t be chatting up his “views” with the ugly wind bag to begin with.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:42 amOnly a fool would dispute the fact that there is a right in the US, but I do believe that there is an emerging left in the US as well.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:44 amBlah, blah, blah…. Matthews can’t run away from all his remarks about “left wing whackos” and how we should carve Dubya’s bust on Mt. Rushmore. I also remember that weird reference he made to Bush about him having a “golden aura about him.” Shut up, TWEETY! You are an opportunist, and we know it.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:46 amHow can you be against the war and be a Bush Cheerleader at the same time? Matthews lobbed Softballs and no follow-ups at Cheney and Condi back in 2002 and 2003… he should have stuck his mitt out and caught the non-sequitors he was getting slammed back at him… so maybe he’s against the war, but he ain’t on the side of the American people.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:48 amcheck out media matters website. go back to 2004 and see that Chris Matthews was indeed a pawn in this gigantic shell (schill) game.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:48 amOops – I googled Chris Matthews and Tweety is lyin’
http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/1223-04.htm
“– Chris Hearts George. Matthews has routinely expressed his admiration for President Bush, calling a Bush speech “brilliant” even before it was given and accusing those who dislike the president of being “whack-jobs”; he also said that Bush sometimes “glimmers” with “sunny nobility”; and, recounting his experience at a White House party, Matthews said Bush “belongs on Mount Rushmore.” ”
Read more at above link…
September 21st, 2006 at 10:50 amtake a look at Media Matters going back to 2004. its all there. He was a major player in this shell (schill) game.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:52 am#15 Juan C 100% right on. When I showed up I thought I was a right-winger…found myself lurking to the left of the Democratic position. These days I am closer to being a crypto-trot – all turtles are.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:53 am“Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs, maybe on the left,” = Chris Matthews – November 28th, 2005.
September 21st, 2006 at 10:56 amFrom Media Matters:
– Chris Hearts George. Matthews has routinely expressed his admiration for President Bush, calling a Bush speech “brilliant” even before it was given and accusing those who dislike the president of being “whack-jobs”; he also said that Bush sometimes “glimmers” with “sunny nobility”; and, recounting his experience at a White House party, Matthews said Bush “belongs on Mount Rushmore.”
– Matthews’s panels consistently skew to the right. Matthews has hosted numerous MSNBC panels that contained far more conservative commentators than progressives. In 2005, the trend was especially prevalent during MSNBC’s presidential inauguration coverage; and both before and after Bush’s State of the Union address. While moderating discussion panels on Hardball, Matthews has repeatedly emphasized the liberal allegiances of progressive guests, while failing to note that other guests on the same panel were Republican.
Read the rest:
http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/1223-04.htm
September 21st, 2006 at 10:57 amoh big effin deal — so tweety is against the war. too bad that he allows his program as a propaganda outlet for the administration’s lies when he repeatedly has guests such as stephen hayes, frank gaffney, dana merino, dan bartlett, ken mehlman, etc etc on to lie uninterrupted and unchallenged in their appearances.
and don’t forget how jacked up tweety was around the time of ‘mission accomplished’; he was more than willing to fall in line when it looked like things were going well for chimpy.
September 21st, 2006 at 11:01 amwasn’t matthews named ‘asshole of the year,’ or something like that, in 2005, due to all the bullshit he was enthusiastically peddling?
September 21st, 2006 at 11:02 am“We’re proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who’s physical, who’s not a complicated guy like Clinton or even like Dukakis or Mondale, all those guys, McGovern. They want a guy who’s president. Women like a guy who’s president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It’s simple. We’re not like the Brits.”
September 21st, 2006 at 11:03 am(MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, 5/1/03)
“We’re all neo-cons now.”
September 21st, 2006 at 11:03 am(MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, 4/9/03)
If you tell yourself something long enough, you’ll start to think it’s true.
September 21st, 2006 at 11:05 amwasn’t matthews named ‘asshole of the year,’ or something like that, in 2005 by media matters, due to all the bullshit he was enthusiastically peddling?
September 21st, 2006 at 11:07 amChris Matthews is full of it….when thisBS war started , he was on the air saying”Iguess we’re all neo cons now!” In full support of the criminals in the Whitehouse and this illegal war..Dems mkust take back Congress and Bush MUST be tried for WAR CRIMES punishable by DEATH!
September 21st, 2006 at 11:08 amI love the fact that politicians and the media constantly tell us how they were “sold a bill of goods”. THAT’S A BUNCH OF CRAP!! Politicians were being informed left and right of the nonsense about Iraq, Al-Qaeda and Niger. And the media just refused to report all of it. Nobody wants to take responsibility for it. And how about that douchebag, Bush-loving, pseudo-cowboy hat wearing asshole, Imus seperating himself from the “rest of the media”. Bunch of effing hypocrites
September 21st, 2006 at 11:09 amChris Matthews is full of it….when thisBS war started , he was on the air saying”I guess we’re all neo cons now!” In full support of the criminals in the Whitehouse and this illegal war..Dems must take back Congress and Bush MUST be tried for WAR CRIMES punishable by DEATH!
September 21st, 2006 at 11:10 amChris Matthews is full of it….when thisBS war started , he was on the air saying”I guess we’re all neo cons now!” In full support of the criminals in the Whitehouse and this illegal war..Dems must take back Congress and Bush MUST be tried for WAR CRIMES punishable by DEATH!
September 21st, 2006 at 11:10 am‘the war has been taken off television’ because corporate america, which sponsors all broadcast ‘news’ programming is intentionally, purposefully attempting to aid bush and the neocon repubes by distracting viewers and listeners.
we need to hound all broadcast media daily, until they get around to providing the truth about ‘conditions in iraq’ to american audiences.
September 21st, 2006 at 11:18 amI don’t think he’s full of it. I think he was in support getting Afghanistan, but then if I’m wrong I’m sure TP or MediaMatters will find it.
But has anyone ever noticed how completely candid Matthews is on Imus? He’s dynamite there. I have a BIG feeling MSNBC has Chris talk differently on Hardball so he sounds more “fair”.
September 21st, 2006 at 11:26 amChrissy Matthews IS Bullshit.
He’s a Chimpyloving pretty boy who supports the Chimp and his war.
Chrissy Matthews was never against the war from the beginning. He’s lying. He’s been a staunch supporter of the Chimpy regime from the get go.
September 21st, 2006 at 11:27 amI think Matthews is one of few openly centrists out there. He follows no party line. Someone mentioned his right-wing regulars. Did you miss his praising Al Sharpton as the smartest guy he has on his show? How Sharpton could be president if he were better educated? He loves Sharpton. He also loves Joe Biden. They’re regulars, as is Howard Fine and so many others.
I wish more people looked at both sides of issues, as he does. Sometimes he thinks Bush did well (from a political, impact standpoint, not necessarily that he loves the man), sometimes he doesn’t. My main problem with him is his giving time to Ann Coulter. Although he did warn her recently that they had been friends up to this point when she was taking an even sharper turn for the worse than usual. She was going too far for him.
On balance, I see Matthews as an independent.
September 21st, 2006 at 11:27 amChris Matthew’s last column in SF Chronicle in September 2002 he came out against the war (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/09/01/IN133269.DTL&hw=Chris+Matthews+column+last&sn=003&sc=875).
September 21st, 2006 at 11:34 amChrissy Matthews is one of Chimpy’s male hookers.
September 21st, 2006 at 11:38 amImus, a huge idiot himself, was not at all unfair in lumping Matthews in with the rest of the complicit media who sucked Bush’s d#ck nonstop throughout 2002-2003. And yes, he was practically creaming himself when Bush landed on that aircraft carrier in his little costume. Matthews wants to be able to say he was always against this war, and that may be true. But he was also just plain scared of being called names, and so made it nearly impossible to tell that he was against the war. At least by watching him on television, his major outlet. Of course he takes some blame, he was right there with the rest of the kewl kidz making fun of the left for opposing this disaster. Even while he agreed with them. Pretty sad.
September 21st, 2006 at 11:44 am[...] It’s a slow news day so I have to pretend I’m linking this because I care what Chris Matthews thinks, not because of the cheap thrill in hearing a semi-obscure media personality use profanity on live radio. [...]
September 21st, 2006 at 11:46 amTweety has done a 360 degree turn yet still lying. Chris followed the lead and was Bush/Cheney’s cheerleader and in the back pocket of the GOP. Chris aka Tweety would spin/blame/lie on command. Tweety got his job on NBC for over cooking the Clinton case for the GOP. Just like Katie Couric who was paid by the GOP for her support bying giving her the CBS job. Now Tweety is acting like all that never happen does Tweety have the Libby sickness of memory loss. Just ask Tweety why Bill Clinton will never be on his show. Tweey knows the show and rule of the King George and team is over so he changing sides. Notice the world leaders are no longer listening to the Liar-in Chief.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:01 pmThe/dlc/are/frauds is correct in that his line of bushit just won’t sell any more. And like a perfect corporate republican he would do or say anything to keep the money stream alive for his bosses.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:05 pmAfter five years of lies and coddling the republicans it’s not time to stop now chris. You will only be adding “hyprocrite” to your portfolio.
Welcome to Media Consolidation and Deregulation 1.0. Just wait for version 2.0 when one company controls it all, making it easier for us to not realize what is actually happening in the world.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:06 pmThe majority of you here are right on about Chris Matthews. May I suggest that you write to him at MSNBC and hold this mirror up to him? He’s obviously in deep denial about his behavior and positions in the last few years regarding Bush. He’ll be hearing from me as soon as I’m done here.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:08 pmit is way past time for some reasonable American “” LEADERS”" to step forward and help Bush who cannot fix this, fix this….
September 21st, 2006 at 12:09 pmSome true Patriotic flag waving DC insider … come forward. Tell America who and where this overwhelming almost paralysing person or people are and how to get their necks into the noose.
We need to stop playing with everyone’s lives, careers, respect,etc and end the nonsensical war in Iraq. We need to make sure rebuilding is started and leave it alone.
There are plenty of ways to reason what could be next but someone with a conscious should come forward and speak. And America should listen.
Will it happen….. could it possibly be an alternative October Surprise????
he should blame lazy and ignorant americans. Those are the ones politicians feed off of. I stopped blamming politicians when all those idiots voted for bush a second time. Americans are to blame for our problems not politicians
September 21st, 2006 at 12:11 pmI’d rather go to an AA meeting than watch two dry drunk media whores talk.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:14 pmAtrios was on Sam Sedar saying “Matthews can talk about Iraq all he wants to”.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:19 pmThese days I am closer to being a crypto-trot – all turtles are.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
A what? I didnt understand it. :(
September 21st, 2006 at 12:20 pmWasn’t Mathews the same guy who said, “we are all neocons now” right after the statue of Saddam was toppled. Talk about revisionist history!
September 21st, 2006 at 12:26 pmI’m reading the comments and, wow, you people are deranged. Chris Matthews, a man who spent countless hours talking up every possible rumor (no matter how ludicrous) involving Rove, et al., with the Plame matter, who declared the war in Iraq a quagmire when the advance on Baghdad slowed down during a sandstorm, who only stopped his nonstop ranting about the “neocons” after a few too many people speculated on the anti-Semitic tone, is a Bush lickspittle? What does a person have to do to be anti-Bush? Take to the nearest grassy knoll with a rifle?
September 21st, 2006 at 12:32 pmIts true.. Americans are more concerned with football than anything ugly.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:38 pmWe’re being led by a not so bright president in a time we need the best minds.
Ive given up on thinking the american people give a rats ass about anything but themselves.
Palistine is being killed.. along with its people. Lebanon is in shambles.
Even Irans president asks.. ‘is all you think about just dropping bombs’.
And the bullshit keeps flowing.. and everyone has a different opinion.
#82 – crypto-Trotskyite…sort of the activist wing as opposed to the ’surf the current’, laissez-faire wing of turtle politics.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:39 pm#70. Thanks, Scott. I remember reading that column when it came out. I got out my Lexis-Nexis and here’s what he said on October 10, 2002:
You might want to temper your approval of his saying it by the fact that he hasn’t repeatedly railed against it on his TV show, but he’s very clearly on the record before the war saying it’s a bad idea. Read that central paragraph again. Could the guy have been righter?
September 21st, 2006 at 12:39 pmMatthews presents one persona in print and as a guest, and another on his own shows. He may have started out as a Democrat, I regard him as being basically a shill for GOP policies at this point. He has been “against the war”, but he’s not against the President.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:40 pmSorry, the date was September 1, 2002.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:41 pm“â€â€â€â€Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s Hardball held forth breathless fawning commentary of the event (the pilot stunt) while the caption shot across the screen: “Why are the Democrats raining on Bush’s parade?” Said Matthews: “We’re proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as a president, a guy who has a little swagger, who’s physical . . . Women like a guy who’s president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a HERO as our president.”â€â€â€â€â€ …….sez Matthews….
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0502-35.htm
Matthews is just a stealth hack. For God’s sake why do we spend any time on this asshole..or his shit head co-hort Imus. Both are shit peddlers and nothing more…..
Think about it. The USA’s pressing problems today are all creations of our elected officials, with perhaps the exception of the energy mess. And who was instrumental in ensuring we voted for the guys that put us in this mess? Well, that would be Chris. Remember this:
“â€â€â€â€. Matthews has a visceral love for tough guys with the common touch, as opposed to creepy wimps like Al Gore, who, he said in 2000, “would lick the bathroom floor to be president†and “doesn’t look like one of us. He doesn’t seem very American, even.†Contrast Matthews on Bush: “Sometimes it glimmers with this man, our president, that kind of sunny nobility,†he said to Washington Times editorial-page editor and former Newt Gingrich minion Tony Blankley.â€â€â€â€â€
http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=11345
Doesn’t look very American??? Al Gore the military vet? (Tweety did not serve), But the salient point is that it was rhetoric like that which bought us Iraq,..as that war was a certainty if Bush was elected and never going to happen if Gore was. Matthews pushed many folks into a Bush vote…and many folks from a Gore vote.
I live in Florida and know well that Iraq was less than 600 votes from never happening.
And lets not forget his enabling of the Swift Boat Liars…
September 21st, 2006 at 12:41 pm[...] Just when my friend John Combest declares that media bias has “jumped the shark” Chris Matthews comes out and admits something that we all know, that he is a biased partisan hack. So what? In this case, he admits that he has been against the Iraq war since the beginning. Here is the transcript: [...]
September 21st, 2006 at 12:41 pmCRITISIZING SOMEONE WHO AT LEAST CARES WHATS HAPPENING.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:42 pmWHATS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE…
LOOK AROUND.. LOOK WHAT WEVE BECOME.
Get your heads out of your asses and care a little about whats happening.
Nice comment Carl..
September 21st, 2006 at 12:43 pmChris Matthews against the war from the beginning? Right.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:44 pmHow about just listening to him as he spins and lives…
September 21st, 2006 at 12:45 pmThrowing some ideas around that might make us think.
You rather the scripted almost inane crap from Howdy Doody ?
True, Mathews has always been against the war. I just don’t understand how he has reconciled his obvious love for Bush with his recognition that the man has made the most serious blunder in the history of American politics.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:48 pmBut curious… what do you think our fearless leader though about those
September 21st, 2006 at 12:49 pm7 minutes he just sat with the kiddies.. wouldnt it be fun if we could
get him on a show everyday with scripts to read… what a scene. lol
I recall vividly jumping out of my easy chair waving my fist at Mr Mathews as he licked the boots of the Right. Time after time he would give a pass to the Republican and then blast the Dems and not let them complete their answers. Me thinks he protests too much. Another republican trying to ditch their responsibility for what’s happening in this country. He should be ashamed if not drummed out of the Washington with all the rest of the drooling boot polishers for Bush.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:50 pm[...] Just when my friend John Combest declares that media bias has “jumped the shark” Chris Matthews comes out and admits something that we all know, that he is a biased partisan hack. So what? In this case, he admits that he has been against the Iraq war since the beginning. Here is the transcript: [...]
September 21st, 2006 at 12:51 pmMatthews loves his early morning phone-in with Anus in the morning–who even watches that pathetic phony cowboy who looks like a prune. Matthews is in awe of these supposed “celebrities”. I worked on the Hill when he was there and believe me he was NOT the big player in Mr. O’Neil’s office that he wants everyone to think he was. It was Leo Diehl, Kirk O’Donnell and Delores Snow who were closest to the Speaker, not Chris Matthews. He can say what he wants to old Imus, but he’ll be speaking out of the other side of his mouth on “Noballs”.
I cannot stand watching his show. Can someone tell me why he ALWAYS mentions the Clintons?? What did they ever do to him.
Imus is rooting for Santorum in the Pennsylvania Senate race. However, Santorum and Frist screwed both Imus’ wife and Suzanne Wright over the autism bill he sponsored by not alllowing any family members of autistic children to sue the makers of the vaccine for damages!!! When you get in bed with fleas, you’re going to get bitten.
September 21st, 2006 at 12:52 pmSorry Chris, it is way too late now. Even this ‘CYA’ attempt is full of crap. He says “It is LIKE we are at war…” Like? Like? Come on Chris. “Cheney was wrong…” Wrong? He was LYING!!! “Every column I have written…” Come on!! You know he meant your T.V. show! He sure does know about B.S.! Ass. “Sunny nobility…” GAG ME!! You can stop now, Chris.
September 21st, 2006 at 1:02 pmSure, Matthews was gung-ho about Iraq way back when, but so were 99.9% of all the talking heads and politicos (Democrats included). What makes me sick is that today’s anti-war converts don’t like (or are afraid) to talk about how Bush lied to and deceived them. Instead, they let him off the hook by lambasting the way he’s prosecuted the war—that he didn’t have a “plan.” He did have a plan, which was simplicity itself: (1) Lie about Saddam’s ties to 9/11. (2) Get Saddam’s oil!
September 21st, 2006 at 1:06 pmHey Bill
Listen to what? Stuff like this:
From the November 28 edition of MSNBC’s Hardball:
“”"”"”"MATTHEWS: I like him. Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real WHACK-JOBS, maybe on the left — I mean — like him personally.”"”"”"”
or this:
“”"”"And I think the president here is right back to his old political craft. This is going to be a very strong political move by the president. He’s talking about spending an extra $3 billion for extra economic aid to the new government of IRAQ for rebuilding. I think he’s going to hold the Democrats’ feet to their fire and say, “Are you going to vote for this or vote against it? I dare you to vote against it.” And I think this is the brilliant political move here by the president, forcing the Democratic carpers and complainers to come forward, and say, “All right, you don’t like my strategy for victory in Iraq? Vote against it. Go ahead, make my day.”"”"”
Or this:
“”"”"MATTHEWS: Do you think this role, and I want to talk politically [...], the president deserves everything he’s doing tonight in terms of his leadership. He won the war ( Iraq). He was an effective commander. Everybody recognizes that, I believe, except a few critics. Do you think he is defining the office of the presidency, at least for this time, as basically that of commander in chief? That [...] if you’re going to run against him, you’d better be ready to take [that] away from him.”"”"
Look Bill…Bush ran from the war of his generation. He lacked the couarge to fight it. He was affraid to go to Viet nam..how else can we say it? But your Boi Chris..wants us to forget all that and see this ass-hat as a hero.
September 21st, 2006 at 1:10 pmWhy would you suggest we listen to that?
“”"”Sure, Matthews was gung-ho about Iraq way back when, but so were 99.9% of all the talking heads and politicos (Democrats included).”"”"
Cynic..that is a false statement.
September 21st, 2006 at 1:13 pmMatthews and Anus–two of a kind. Two old phonies. Matthews acts like a 2 year old. He loves the sound of his own voice–just like that ugly, wheezy, prune-faced Imus.
Matthews talks out of both sides of his fat face. I cannot understand why people waste their time with him. He runs hot and cold. I won’t watch anymore. At the time he comes on at 5 I’m listening to NPR. The way he spits all over the place makes me cringe.
September 21st, 2006 at 1:20 pmMatthews and Anus–two of a kind. Two old phonies. Matthews acts like a 2 year old. He loves the sound of his own voice–just like that ugly, wheezy, prune-faced Imus.
Matthews talks out of both sides of his fat face. I cannot understand why people waste their time with him. He runs hot and cold. I won’t watch anymore. At the time he comes on at 5 I’m listening to NPR. The way he spits all over the place makes me cringe.
September 21st, 2006 at 1:20 pmAfter WWII, you couldn’t find a Nazi in Germany either. Chris Matthews, of HardBall, has not been against the war from the beginning. He was a Bush Shill like all the rest. He’s even hosted Ann Coulter and her hate-mongering.
September 21st, 2006 at 1:29 pmOur government has been acting the way amateurs do, not knowing or understanding the impact of what it has been doing. From President Bush, who makes a joke of his ignorance, to stooges such as Rumsfeld and truly unfeeling fixed-idea men such as Cheney, we have suffered from inept and uninformed leadership. Iraq is just one example of such amateurness, with a war that had no plan for any follow-up. Iran is another. The way we’ve handled Afghanistan is still another. Our ignoring the essential conflict between Israel and the Palestine peoples, just hoping it will go away. Add them up and we can now see how inept this administration has been. Then look at the current economy, changed from a positive one in which our assets were growing to one in which almost everything except oil has been declining. Asking the military, who weren’t trained to build nations and who did their job heroically in the war, to sort out what needs to be done in Iraq or Afghanistan is truly amateurish; such work was never the military’s job. Not even having a full professional cadre of those who speak the language of our enemies, from Afghanistan to Iraq to Iran to Lebanon – how could this administration even pretend to understand what forces it has unleashed? The author of “Fiascoâ€, Tom Ricks, has said we’ll probably have troops in Iraq for fifteen years because of how amateurishly things have been handled. I grieve for our sons and daughters and our grandchildren who will be forced to handle the mess that will be left behind by this administration.
“Stay the course” or “Adapt to win”. It doesn’t matter what they say. It’s in the book; it’s in their playbook; there is no sense of reality here, only Republican “spinâ€. It will continue until the election and, if they prevail, we can expect it to continue unabated. So, please, don’t act surprised; and above all don’t act as if it won’t happen again and again. One more point: The Republicans have mastered one technique and use it very well: It is called “first strike.†They frame the argument (call Democrats cowards because they “cut and run” or won’t “stay the course”) and the Democrats then have to respond to it. If only some smart Democrat had come forward, immediately, and said, “Expect this to happen, expect this type of campaign from the Republicans,†they might have taken the “first strike†capability away from the Republicans. And, by doing this, they might have begun to show how the Republicans are bending events to remain in power. By the way, I have heard it said, more than once, that “pulling out of Iraq is tantamount to giving Al Queda a license to create more 9/11s.” Well, we haven’t pulled out of Iraq. And we almost had another 9/11. And we’re being promised that the treat isn’t gone for another 9/11. Sorry, guys, you can’t have it both ways. So the argument that we need to remain in Iraq at any cost holds no water.
It seems to me there is much disinformation being distributed about, for example, Al Qaeda. No one seems to have assessed what they are doing, how many people there are, where they are located. This is simple stuff, raw intelligence stuff. Hm, I wonder why. You may want to look into this. Almost everything I have read is muddled, unclear, inconclusive. Is it possible they are so small, comparatively so weak, that they couldn’t attack us if they really wanted to?
I ask this because it is good politics to make them so mysterious that we can’t assess them, so that people can be AFRAID, really AFRAID of them all the time? After all, they’re connected to … um, Saddam and Iraq … Iran … maybe Pakistan … the Taliban in Afghanistan … and under your bed. Perhaps Mr. Bush has de-emphasized the threat from Al Qaeda because he knows there aren’t that many of them? Just what does he and the Vice
President know about them – a definitive answer with facts and figures might be in order.
One assessment apparently shows them as a very small fragmented minority, which got lucky, remember, only because the cabin doors of the airliners weren’t secured and pilots couldn’t carry guns. I repeat this, One assessment shows them as a very small fragmented minority, which got lucky, remember, only because the cabin doors of the airliners weren’t secured and pilots couldn’t carry guns. Had the doors been secured 9/11 probably couldn’t have happened.
Now, whether or not that’s true, it might be nice to have some facts. Otherwise, as I’m fond of saying, there is no such thing as a “global war
on terrorism”; it’s like a “war on laziness”, or a “war onsuicide bombers”, so vague it distorts the picture and is designed only to make you afraid.
Being afraid is not what intelligence gathering is about; precisely the reverse, so you can take the proper action. And Bush may not want to take
that action. After all, Pakistan has already shown us that’s a real possibility, isn’t it? Bush also seems to be afraid that, if we find out the real facts, he will be weakened and lose all of his strength.
So if you disagree witht the current administration and want to see their power checked, you have only one choice – to vote Democratic and get everyone you know to do so also. Otherwise we’ll have more of the same and watch our country go down the drain. Sure the Democrats will turn greedy and corrupt but not at first.
September 21st, 2006 at 1:35 pmBetter late than NEVER…
…I wonder if old Chrissy STILL thinks Bush is such a “great guy”…
…or that Dems are just “Wacko leftists”…
September 21st, 2006 at 1:50 pmthink it’s bad now, wait til we hit Iraq
September 21st, 2006 at 1:51 pmThe simple answer is that American are dumb ass, dummies. Republicans will wave the flag, and put bumper stickers on their cars, saying “Support the Troops” , but all they really care about is winning elections. They will lie, cheat and lie again, and dumb ass republicans follow them like blind mice. It’s pethectic
September 21st, 2006 at 1:54 pmMatthews kisses the ass of whoever is winning or whoever stands up to him. He couldn’t look John Stewart in the eye when he was on the daily show. Creepy guy. Once said Bush has a kind of sunny nobility. That’s about all I need to know.
September 21st, 2006 at 2:00 pmChris Matthews is suffering from selective memory. Check out his shows during the first weeks of the Iraq war. He kept asking anyone on his show who opposed this war, “Don’t the Democrats have to apologize for being mistaken, now?” He forgets his own participation in the hubris surrounding the beginning of this fiasco. And I am sick to death with all the sunshine patriots who keep saying “ALL of us were fooled by the Bush administration.” I certainly wasn’t, nor were the journalists in publications like the NYRB. There were several articles disputing the whole WMD fiction months before we invaded.
September 21st, 2006 at 2:03 pmNow that the country has turned against the war, Matthews says he waws always opposed to it. If that were true, he sure qualifies for an Oscar performance. He still gushes over Bush and his macho-Mission-Accomplished video. His channel is the one that ran a daily war countdown. He was part of the army of pundits who pushed it forward on the public – now he denies it.
September 21st, 2006 at 2:14 pmHe is about as trustworthy as anyone in the Bush White House.
I will never forgive Matthews for referring to Democrats as left wing wackos.
September 21st, 2006 at 2:23 pmThere is too much evidence to the contrary for him to be self-righteous now — he is like the Eddie Haskell of TV punditry (Who, me?!). He claims to be a journalist — journalist my foot — he is a prostitute; whichever way the wind is blowing that is the way he leans.
Now he calls it a bullshit war because the majority of Americans are saying so.
His brother is a candidate in Pennsylvania – let’s see how he talks as the election nears.
I confess to watching Matthews sometimes, but nothing he says personally is creditable, he is interruptive and rude to his guests (hardball or not), he fawns all over pretty women, and he gives idolatrous interviews with the likes of Tom Delay.
Well, Matthews is just lying, and even some guy who writes a TV blog noticed it the other day. That guy is me. Here’s what I wrote at http://www.IAmATVJunkie.com”
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September 21st, 2006 at 2:42 pmMatthews’ ratings are even more abysmal as Keith Odormann’s:
that’s because people with brains don’t get their news from television. note the high viewership of oreilly etc. by the trailer crowd
September 21st, 2006 at 2:52 pmTweety was against it from the beginning?
he sure had a funny way of showing it. Did people who wanted to shove this war down our throats have any bigger and fluffier pillows to rest their fat asses on than Matthews? Did he ask tough and probing follow up questions? Did he feature guests who shared his “bullshit” opinion? how fluffy were THIER pillows?
It’s a good sign when a tool like Matthews decides to stand up and be counted but how big and shiny a badge does he want? Ask real questions Chris, THEN we’ll talk. I mean, even now I half expect him and Cheney to share brandy and cigars. get real.
September 21st, 2006 at 3:02 pmYeah, this coming from a guy who thinks the Democrats are “left” (Left of what? Eisenhower?) Matthews is nothing more than a media weathervane who senses the wind is blowing in a different direction.
September 21st, 2006 at 3:10 pmHmmm…is old Chrisy baby getting jealous of all the ratings Keith Olbermann is getting because he is the only one at MSNBC, CNN or Fox telling the truth to the American public…Is he along with Joe Scarbrough getting the message.
The republican talking points are failing. Even without the constant barrage of the news media blaring out republican this, bush that, they see the public is sick and tired of it all. THEY WANT THE TRUTH AND KEITH IS GIVING IT TO THEM.
September 21st, 2006 at 3:28 pmThe only news worth watching is News Hour with Jim Lehrer. Every evening the military releases a new list of deceased, they end the show with a slideshow of names, pictures, and hometowns of the troops that have died in service.
If only the for-profit news sources would have the courage to do the same.
September 21st, 2006 at 3:45 pm[...] First it was Keith Olbermann complaining about Rumsfeld then Bush now MSNBC’s Chris Matthews says, ‘I Have Been Against This Bullshit War From The Beginning’. HA! [...]
September 21st, 2006 at 3:49 pmChris Matthews sounds tough on Bush at 6 AM on the radio… let’s see if he’ll be tough on the TV’s Hardball… He hasn’t been tough on Bush yet… He’s bogus.
September 21st, 2006 at 4:00 pmThere is a larger message in this than Matthews or Imus’s nonsense.
September 21st, 2006 at 4:15 pmImus is just a goofy western hat and nothing more, but Tweety’s attempt to reposition himself while standing chin deep in his past is a real issue. It is mind-boggling to think how much Matthews (and the likes) must think those around him idiots. He is not only a fan of what he claims to dislike but an architect of its creation. Like Bush or Cheney, Chris is just another shyster trying to rewrite his past foolishness out of the books.
from Chris Matthew’s final column, dated Sept. 1, 2002:
“So I’ll say it: I hate this war that’s coming in Iraq. I don’t think we’ll be proud of it. Oppose this war because it will create a millennium of hatred and the suicidal terrorism that comes with it. You talk about Bush trying to avenge his father. What about the tens of millions of Arab sons who will want to finish a fight we start next spring in Baghdad? Well, that’s it for now. You know where I stand.”
The full column is at http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/09/01/IN133269.DTL
September 21st, 2006 at 4:22 pmAnd Chris Matthews is propped up by NBC as a nonpartisan member of the press? Please.
It’s all anti-Bush, all the time. He might as well state that he is a DNC hack at the begining of each show.
September 21st, 2006 at 4:39 pmNo progress here except another MSM member showing off his Bush Derangement Syndrome.
Who gives a rat’s ass what Matthews thinks? He’s a throwback Tip O’Neill liberal hack who never even did any policy work even when he was (sort of) in the fray. He was all about bullshit then and he’s still about bullshit.
He’s one of the most misinformed critics of the war, his ratings are pathetic, and he’s mendacious to boot. I don’t care if he’s pandering left or right at any given moment. Bottom line is that this bloated Northeastern version of a Good Ol’ Boy is full of it…that’s why nobody listens to him now (as if they ever did).
September 21st, 2006 at 4:55 pmSo it’s becoming fashionable to be against the war now? I knew if I held out long enough it would come back into style, like bell bottoms.
September 21st, 2006 at 5:20 pmChris Matthew is a hack and a cheap one at that. He may think his position is against the war but from my view he should have splinters in his butt the size of Bush’s ego. He rides the fence better than anyone. You stink Matthews!
September 21st, 2006 at 5:43 pmBullshit indeed, Matthews. You’ve been enabling Bush since he announced. Have a beer with him. Women love the flight suit. Gore is the bathtub ring…And how about that NYT story, the front-pager about the Clintons’ marriage and its significance should she run in 08. You wasted countless hours forcing your guests to comment on such meaninglessness, and when they rightly tried to change the subject you dragged them back on-topic. You’ve underminded Dems and given aid and comfort to Reps in so many ways, you may as well have been a war cheerleader. Which, by the way, in the beginning, you were. What an ego.
September 21st, 2006 at 7:21 pmBullshit is right, Matthews. You may have not supported the invasion per se, but you’ve done nothing but give aid and comfort to the Reps while undermining the Dems. Bush to have a beer with. Bush in the flight suit – we women love that. Bush is a nice guy. Gore is the bathtub ring. Kerry is inauthentic. And how about the days of both your shows devoted to the Clinton marriage story in the NYT? Anytime a guest protested that it wasn’t relevant you’d drag him or her back into it. Don’t change the subject to issues that concern us peasants, right?
Matthews is one huge ego.
September 21st, 2006 at 7:25 pmGee Chris, I guess I could’nt understand what you were saying on the air because your mouth was always full of Bush administration cock while you were onthe air.
September 21st, 2006 at 7:41 pmChris is absolutely right. He worried that they were going to attack Iraq well before it was a done deal. I remember that very vividly. That’s why I am hanging on every word he says about Iran, because he clearly has his ear to the ground (or whatever that expression is). I happen to trust Chris Matthews, which is more than I can say about many other journalists. Also, I am from Philly and I completely understand where he is coming from. You are right, Chris, about the war and many other issues. Yo, thanks.
September 21st, 2006 at 7:42 pmThat was AWESOME!!!!!! I love Chris Matthews!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
September 21st, 2006 at 8:27 pmok Matthews…I Googled you.
Here are quotes from 2003:
“We’re proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who’s physical, who’s not a complicated guy like Clinton or even like Dukakis or Mondale, all those guys, McGovern. They want a guy who’s president. Women like a guy who’s president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It’s simple. We’re not like the Brits.”
(MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, 5/1/03 on Mission Accomplished”)
And more on “Mission accomplished”:
“…he president deserves everything he’s doing tonight in terms of his leadership. He won the war. He was an effective commander. Everybody recognizes that, I believe, except a few critics. ”
(MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, 5/1/03 on “Mission Accomplished”)
-and another:
“What’s he going to talk about a year from now, the fact that the war went too well and it’s over? I mean, don’t these things sort of lose their–Isn’t there a fresh date on some of these debate points?”
(MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, speaking about Howard Dean–4/9/03)
-and another:
“Why don’t the damn Democrats give the president his day? He won today. He did well today.”
(MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, 4/9/03)
-and:
“We’re all neo-cons now.”
(MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, 4/9/03)
Hey Matthews: you are full of shit.
September 21st, 2006 at 8:50 pmWhew, I have read all the postings and find myself dizzy although I think that ash comes the closest to expressing my views. Chris is better on Sunday mornings than he is on Hardballs where is does talk over his guests seldom letting them finish a thought and he obscures most of his opinions, including that about the war by swaggering in a supposed neutral stance although he usually falls in line with Chimpy because that’s where the guests and current power come from. True courage and conviction are shown by Keith Olberman who has a point of view and declares is loudly and elegantly. Chris is too involved with courting favor to be totally honest except when shown up by the fake cowboy from New Mexico who nevertheless occasionally pierces the fake armor of people like Chris. I only remember the unrelenting hours, days, months and years devoted to the Clinton sex scandal and the come-lately tepid criticism of a president and his war that have made us hated throughout the world and have cost us 2700 American lives. Where was the loss of life or world’s condemnation of a few blow jobs? Please, dear God, awaken the American public before November 7th.
September 21st, 2006 at 9:20 pmMatthews is a fraud. He never had any money until he went to work at MSNBC and he is so nouveau riche. I wish to god that he and Russert would sell their homes here on Nantucket and go out to the Hamptons with all of the other fakers. Plus, their kids are obnoxious, entitled brats.
I loved it when he had O’Beirne and Barnicle on the other night. Barnicle got fired from the Boston Globe for plagirism and O’Beirne’s old man is ripping the taxpayers off. There is NOTHING LEGITMATE about Hardball or anyone else involved with NBC/MSNBC/GE–other than the fact that they are screwing all americans. I dumped my stock with them years ago.
Everyone–stop watching these clowns and eventually, they will get cancelled!!
September 21st, 2006 at 10:12 pmMatthews is a fraud. He never had any money until he went to work at MSNBC and he is so nouveau riche. I wish to god that he and Russert would sell their homes here on Nantucket and go out to the Hamptons with all of the other fakers. Plus, their kids are obnoxious, entitled brats.
I loved it when he had O’Beirne and Barnicle on the other night. Barnicle got fired from the Boston Globe for plagirism and O’Beirne’s old man is ripping the taxpayers off. There is NOTHING LEGITMATE about Hardball or anyone else involved with NBC/MSNBC/GE–other than the fact that they are screwing all americans. I dumped my stock with them years ago.
Everyone–stop watching these clowns and eventually, they will get cancelled!!
September 21st, 2006 at 10:12 pmChris enjoys hearing his own voice and is so infatuated with his celebrity that it’s embarrasing to watch. He’s like a monkey with a mirror, and that’s usually reflecting his rear end….
September 21st, 2006 at 10:16 pmChris is so phony, when the war was popular he was right up there with the GOP ridiculing the left, parroting those idiots from the FOX channel. Now that things are going terribly wrong, he now wants to side with the left. Give me a break !!!!
September 21st, 2006 at 11:06 pmComment by Juan+C
The US middle class is the strongest bourgeoisie in the world who seldom asks itself about the consequence of its actions: savage consumption of resources to obtain commodities. The real left can be found, as always, in Europe who has the highest social conscience laboring mass. Just ask Villepin.
You are probably right that a lot of the US middle class is big on consumption and big on this and that and blah, blah, blah, blah. But I’ll tell you something I’m sick of… it’s people holding the citizens of Europe as peaceful “we’re better than you” humans. The truth is European’s forget their own history more than anyone I know and two of the bloodiest wars that mankind has ever seen were created by them. The truth of it today is Europe has created a welfare state built on the goodwill and dollars of NATO which is funded 85% by the United States. The United States spends upwards of 400 billion a year on defense (which is more than the next three largest spenders combined) and as a result they have a guarntee of security without having to spend the tax dollars. So they go on about how good they are and how they have great hospitals, great schools, great this, great that. I’m sick of it. I would love to have someone pay our defense bills so we in the United States could afford to send our kids to college for free. I look forward to the day when the E.U. surpasses the power of the United States so they actually have to bear the brunt of what it takes to create a global army and protect others. Ungrateful bastards!
Let’s think about a few things…
- “The sun never set’s on the British Empire” – A famous saying, because for hundred of years the brits ruled and took whatever they wanted whenever they wanted from weaker countries.
- The French rolled over like a bunch of wimps when the Germans showed up. Now I appreciate the French a lot. I love the culture, the history and I’m even learning the language right now. In fact, the US wouldn’t exist without the French but those self-righteous pricks would be teaching German in their schools right now if it wasn’t for us.
What may surprise some of you… I’m about as left as you can get. I’m not rich but I enjoy traveling, I save what money I can to visit many of these countries (which I love on principle) and try and take a larger world view. I’m concerned about global warming, I’m concerned about Peak Oil, I’m concerned about nuclear profliferation and on top of that am I queer. So do you get it… I’m not riding the right-wing band wagon. I hate this war, I hate what Bush and his team have done and hate what has happened to the country I love so much. But don’t tell me Europe is innocent… I’m freaking sick of it. As far as I’m concerned they are a bunch of spoiled brats who can’t spell the words “Marshall Plan” and for the most part have no sense of responsibility.
September 21st, 2006 at 11:27 pmBut don’t tell me Europe is innocent… I’m freaking sick of it.
Comment by Jason
I said that if you want to find real left ideology you can find it in Europe. Nothing more. I agree with you in some points. Europe colonized, conquered and crushed hundreds of countries, ethnic groups, tribes and races long before US took their place as the first invading force in the world (they keep doing it with more subtle, economic mechanisms). As for the NATO money, if you think that it is the US who support europeans way of living…well, you know. As if NATO would allow its resources used for welfares, yeah. Probably you meant warfares.
As far as I’m concerned they are a bunch of spoiled brats who can’t spell the words “Marshall Plan†and for the most part have no sense of responsibility.
We have to be cautious. Germany lost two wars in less than 30 years and now its the base of the EU, they have a supreme industry and quality standards…and they plan to provide 50% of the country energy demand with renewable energy. They dont play games with little wars for oil.
France, well, they do the revolutions (with the exception of Russia and why not? Iran). They have the most powerful electricity company in the world, great research institutions and the Louvre. They have an admirable social conscience. We can go and on…
As for which country is better…its an stupid question. But I will tell you this. Only one country in this planet has used a nuclear bomb…over civilians…twice.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:21 amChris Matthews is a whore. He goes to the highest bidder.
He is working for General Electric so he shills for the GOP.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:25 amhere is the full truth about Olbermann
for mature audiences only
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myv08r_y6sU
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:44 amI am constantly amazed at the unwillingness of the Dems to protect this country. They are always throwing up the number of soldiers who have died in this noble cause nearing 3000 in three years. During the same time, we have killed over 100,000 on our roads in America. Hardly seems comparable does it?
Why do the media and the Dems concentrate on lives given to protect our freedom versus lives lost in pursuit of freedom!!!
September 22nd, 2006 at 9:03 am[...] Ladies and gentleman, here is your bullshit media. No. no. no. no. Don. Dono. You can check everything. Get your Nexis-Lexis out. Get your google out. Every column I have written from the day they started talking about Iraq has been against it. Now you are chuckling because you know damn well you’ve pulled my chain here. I have been a voice out there against this bullshit war from the beginning. [...]
September 22nd, 2006 at 11:27 amHa ha ha. Ha ha ha.
Meanwhile, people die.
September 22nd, 2006 at 11:30 amI’ve have steadfastly monitored the various cable “talk” shows since the wanning years of the Clinton administration. I have notice them not only moving hard to the right in the shows hosts but also in the percentage of conservative quests. Hardball with Chris Matthews is no different. Matthews has so politically straddled the Iraq War and the Bush administration’s policies it enables him to make a case regardless which way the wind blows. What he cannot make a case for is being non-partisan or centrist. I agree with others on this page that it is impossible to be against this war and at the same time constantly demeaning those who either opposed the war or who are and have been calling for alternatives in the managing of this ill-thought endeavor. He (and his stand-in Nora O’Donnell ) continually msirepresent the Democrats as either “having no plan” or totally distorting their stances even after having Democrats on their very own show expressing such views. I view his show as the most insipid form of Orwellian propoganda by proporting to be even handed and tough on all guests while constantly and subtly regurgitating Republican talking points, promoting Rebublican candidates running for office, and extolling Republicans ability to con the public (through fear, distortions, and “hardball” politicking) into winning elections over the lack of substantive positive results that benefit the nation. One only has to look at the difference in the way they covered the last Presidential conventions. This is the same guy who went on ad nauseum about how Gore was so “wooden” and Kerry was so “long winded” while Bush was “the kind of guy you want to have a beer with”. He, like a lot of other able news hosts (can you say Scarborough) are realizing a little too late that the office of the Presidency may require a candidate with a little more talent, intelligence, and insight than someone who can tip a beer can upside down! Ever since the Nixon/Kennedy debates in 1960 the political insiders have realized more and more how much the visual media has on the power to make or break a candidate for public office. Those that only heard the debate thought Nixon had won. Those that watched on television swore Kennedy had won. The rise of “pundit” news shows, combined with the elimination of the fairness doctrine and the hugh expense one has to lay out to run for office have gone a long way to making political races more about popularity contests and a whole lot less about qualifications for the job. Corporate America now decides who gets to ask the questions, who gets on the airways to answer those questions and, now, who gets to spin the news. That my friends is propoganda news and not factual information. On MSNBC Oberman is the only source for challenging the status quo. The other “hosts” are either former Republican pundits (Scarborough, Bowtie chimp, etc.) or Democrat demonizers (Matthews). CNN’s Blitzer gets his taking points straight from the Republican daily brief, Dobbs used to be the most coservative host on cable (looks left of center now given what is on cable currently). Does anyone need evidence about Faux News? Hell Goldwater would be a centrist in today’s culture. The bar has been moved so far to the right that progressives are now defined as “left-wing loonies”. There is no effective “left-wing” Democrats anymore. Only far right neo-cons, Republican conservatives, and centrist Democrats labled as left wing. Before anyone considers giving anyone (especially Matthews) a pass on pesenting the news and views of political substance get out a pen and paper and mark how many times Democrats are termed as liberals and Rebuplicans are either not not labled at all or as simply Representative or Senator. Keep score of the imbalance of quests by political divide. But above all else fact check the statements made by the hosts for accuracy and bias. That is why I get most of my “News” from the net today. I only watch cable to see the distortions and how the propoganda is being laundered to the general public.
September 22nd, 2006 at 11:58 amRe: POST #10
Brad, what color is the sky in your world? You have obviously swallowed the Al Gore, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi kool-aid. Do you live in Boston? It’s the only explanation I can figure for your case for a leftward shift in America. When was the last time you ventured west of the Berkshires? Get out and see America, dude. It’s C-O-N-S-E-R-V-A-T-I-V-E.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:15 pmThe MOST noticeable “defection” amongst the talking head punditry I’ve heard about…
…is David Broder…
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:08 pm#151 – You may be right, but what the average person in those areas means by it is NOT what the regime in Washington means by it. The average person is in favor of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights – the regime wants to shred both of them in the name of greater power for themselves. The average person is in favor of a balanced or at least reaonable budget – the regime is in favor of looting the Treasury to line their own pockets. The average person is in favor of “not taking any crap from furriners” – the regime is in favor of invading other countries, oppressing their inhabitants, and stripping them of their natural resources in order to enrich themselves and their cronies.
Once the average person figures this out – and it ain’t rocket science – there’s gonna be hell to pay.
September 22nd, 2006 at 6:16 pmMathews is a devote Dem you idiots! If someone isn’t to the left of Michael “Feedbag” Moorer, you Chuckleheds think he’s a rightie.
You’re pefect world is w/ Castro.
Ronnie Reagan snuffed out Communism and you D-Bags are trying to revive it.
Capitalism works! Why don’t you?
September 22nd, 2006 at 7:32 pmThe media is moving right because it is getting realigned with the majority of the people in the US. The old 60’s hippies are dying out pretty fast, what aids didn’t get, old age is cleaning up.
September 23rd, 2006 at 8:45 amSoon the country and the media will be full force right wing and you nuts/perverts will be just a mere mention in history. A mention about how perverted folks almost hoodwinked America.
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September 23rd, 2006 at 12:21 pmwell, ernest,
i are a “old hippie” as you seem to think anybody to the left of ralph reed or tom delay is and i ain’t dyin’ out. we folk of a certain age are living to be a lot longer than people used ta, and we vote. the MSM moved to the right because people like rupert murdoch and jack welsh bought it up and said *uck all the little people, we’re gonna tilt the playing field so people like junior bush can pretend like their running the country. and well they may continue to do so, but don’t count on it. but if you want to hold your breath until i die and can’t vote any more then go ahead. i’d like that…….
September 23rd, 2006 at 3:09 pmKudos to Jack Welsh and Rupert!!
September 25th, 2006 at 7:22 pmWe thank rupert and jack for givng the natural right leanings of the people to be expressed. So at least two outlets out of 100 let the natural right leanings come out. I’m patient, lefties will whither on the vine.
September 26th, 2006 at 6:54 amYou brain washed lefty loooooosers sure do crack me up!!!!!
September 26th, 2006 at 6:55 amYou lefty idiots are such loooooooooooooooosers.
If you people came to power here in the US, we would have to rename the country to Retardoslovakia.
Farender,
Quit drinking that stale bong water, take off that tie die shirt, lose the pink lensed granny glasses, wash and cut your hair and beard and take a damn bath! The flys are circling your white, bloated carcass!
Oh yea, get the VW’b van off the blocks and get a job ya commie pinko loser!
The communes have closed becuse this is a capitalist society. Your Utopian
September 26th, 2006 at 8:40 pmdream world only works in your LSD laden mind.
So much for no leanings
November 3rd, 2006 at 7:15 pmWhere is Chris Matthews? He is off the air. Is he sick?
December 10th, 2006 at 11:32 am