Earlier today on Good Morning America, Virgin CEO Richard Branson, who yesterday pledged $3 billion to invest in alternative energy to combat global warming, appeared alongside Al Gore. Branson explained that he was once a global warming skeptic, but after meeting with scientists, reading books, and talking over breakfast with Gore, he became “convinced that the world has a real serious problem.”
Gore praised Branson for having the “guts” to show such “courage and leaderhip” on the issue. Watch it:
Transcript:
SAWYER: We’re happy to say the man himself, Sir Richard, joins us this morning, along with a man who convinced him to make this pledge, I understand, over breakfast, former Vice President Al Gore. And we’re sure glad to have both of you with us.
This is no question, putting your money where your convictions are. But why do it right now? You’ve been a skeptic in the past about global warming, whether it’s just a cycle or whether it’s real.
BRANSON: Yes. I think, along with quite a few people, if you switched the clock back 10 years, I was skeptical. But now, you know, I’ve met a lot of scientists, I’ve read a lot of books, I’ve had Al Gore spend two hours at my home giving me his personal time to convince me.
And sadly, I’m now convinced that the world has a real serious problem.
[SNIP]
SAWYER: So how did you do it at breakfast in just a couple of hours? Guilt?
GORE: No. We just talked about the facts of the situation. You know, all of us have problems absorbing the reality of what we’re facing with this. It’s really a planetary emergency. And it’s sort of hard to talk about that at breakfast time.
But we’ve quadrupled the population of the world in less than 100 years. We have these powerful new technologies. We’re capable of doing things we weren’t capable of doing in the past.
And Sir Richard Branson is the rare individual who captures and commands attention. And he has the guts to do something bold. And a lot of people are going to follow his lead.
And, to your earlier question, a lot of CEOs who have had the guts to make this kind of commitment in the past — none as big as this one — have ended up making money. I hope he ends up making a lot of money. But it’s far from guaranteed. He just is showing courage and leadership.
All Al needs now is Chuck Norris and Jack Bauer and he will have the perfect team together to kick global warming butt.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:18 pmIs Branson donating his own money or the profits directly from Virgin INC.?
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:23 pmIs ABC trying do some repentance? Good for Gore and Branson. See what you can do if you talk to someone. Gore didn't have to torture Branson into doing this. He simply showed the facts.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:24 pmGood for Branson. Why was he so stupid before?
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:25 pmRoger,
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:34 pmFollow the link and read.
I can only presume that Branson is also shutting down all his airlines and train companies as they are huge polluters. I am also guesing he is getting rid of all his extra homes, boats, and is now only using public transportation. Otherwise he looks like a hypocrit.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:34 pmSomeone actually had the courage to look at the facts, assess the situation, and change a long held opinion regarding global warming... AND he followed through with a commendable pledge of monetary support.
Almost gives you hope for humanity.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:36 pm#6
so you're saying any company that produces pollution should not research methods of producing less. gee, maybe that's why its taking so long to curb our habits. there would be no companies capable of researching this by your standard.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:48 pm#6 Roger... are you still on this tack? Here's where you were yesterday...
And with this gem (which I would love to see where the DOE says that, please help me), you really are struggling to be taken seriously this week Rog:
You missed my polite question on the other Branson thread, Rog, so here's your second chance...
Roger - please tell me where this comes from - not just the Department of Energy. Here’s what I found on the DOE’s website:
The average retail price of regular motor gasoline fell from $3.04 per gallon on August 7, 2006, to $2.62 per gallon on September 11, 2006, and is expected to fall to an average of $2.55 per gallon in January 2007 before rising again into next summer.
In 2006 and 2007, the WTI crude oil spot price is projected to average around $70 per barrel (West Texas Intermediate Crude Oil Price). Retail regular gasoline prices are projected to average about $2.65 per gallon in both 2006 and 2007 ( Gasoline and Crude Oil Prices).
For gasoline to be at $1.15, the price of opil would need to be below $20 a barrel…..
I hope for your sake, you are not budgeting your ARM mortgage payments with your gasoline savings.
Please lay off the mind-altering stuff, Rog.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:48 pmI think this sounds a little like Ted Fonda giving gazzillions to the UN. How's that working out for ya Ted?
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:48 pmHow is he a hypocrite by donating money to help a problem? Maybe he is donating the money (and hopefully will continue to do more) as a way of offsetting his polluting businesses.
Apparently conservatives are only comfortable with giving/receiving money donations when corruption is involved, not with charity.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:51 pmCan Al "earmark" some of that money to finance Dem campaigns? We can clean up all kinds of pollution by renaming the GOP to the CO2P and eliminating all carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:51 pmI was wondering when the trolls were going to put their negative spin on this. It took 6 posts and 16 minutes.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:51 pmRoger_Roger, the correct spelling is "hypocrite".
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:55 pmCheck out the report on the Greenland ice sheet this morning out of the University of Colorado: http://denver.yourhub.com/BOULDER/Stories/News/General-News/Story~127278.aspx
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:58 pmHere's my link for post #9 http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/steo/pub/contents.html
And don't quote me Bunsen Honeydew, the DOE dude, I've met him, he's not that impressive.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:59 pmI am just going to keep on reposting that until Roger_Roger develops a brain.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:59 pmseriously, how can anyone say this is a bad thing. is it just because, gasp, doing things for reasons outside of amassing more wealth for the wealthy is almost, um un-republican-y? the guys doing a good thing, he's getting good pr for it, deal with it.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:00 pmSo investing your money on improving your business and help it run more efficiently while giving it a very good PR slant is bad in the eyes of Roger. Man, I hope you never get in a position to run a company. It would end up like all of bushies' corporate follies.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:00 pm#19, Roger is demonstrating sterling qualities for a position in the Commerce Department - unswerving loyalty to the Dear Leader and rank incompetence in his chosen specialty.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:07 pmRE: 17
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:10 pmSee Bruce, I told you not ALL republicans are bad...
roger, does being nice make your skin burn? maybe just a little? i bet stomping on puppies makes it go away, though. and then you can get back to your rush limbaugh listening and karl rove worshipping.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:12 pmI may have the wrong troll, but hasn't RogerRoger recently posted that he was taking a "different" strategy to reduce our oil dependency but continuing to use a lot until it is gone, thus forcing the market to come up with alternatives. (If so, his complaints here toward Branson are hypocritical. If I am wrong, I apologize. )
Note: if I was going to do this my usual way, I would not have included the part in parenthesis in this post and waited for a response to the first statement. I thought I'd try it the BushCo way!
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:13 pmroger? hello? still there? is it lunchtime at the competitive enterprise institute? or did you all lose internet service when exxon stopped paying your bills?
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:18 pmcoachjason
;)
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:35 pmcoachjason
I agree, not all Republicans are bad (I've got a boat load of them in my own family, including father, brother, and sister). I do think, however, that much of the Republican ideology and policies, especially from the current Republicans in power, is extremely bad, wrong, and immoral.
Plus, not all Democrats are bad! :)
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:43 pmWow, that is absolutely amazing. I think my hands are sore from patting these guys on their backs. Imagine being openminded enough to be allow yourself to be persaded based on reading and learning. That is quite a revolutionary concept in this world.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:54 pmAmerica's Least Wanted
Hey PLC
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:03 pmHow did you become the runt of the litter (lol)???
I wish I had a billion to give to global warming research myself... I'm just not high enough on the neocon pecking order yet. It's this whole "you guys are full of crap" attitude I keep giving them. Yeah, I traded in my suv for a 4 cylinder car (still an American car though), does that count for me doing my part???
You can almost compare the global warming arguement to the Christianity arguement... If it's wrong, then there's nothing to worry about, and you'll die knowing you tried to do the right thing. If it's right and you didn't try, well then....
what the heck??? My name and e-mail address were just changed on that last post... now I know tightie righties e-mail... how the heck did that happen??? Is he out there posting as me somewhere???
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:04 pm#1
I would watch that show.
The NEW Captian Planet and the Planeteers?
I'm dying over here imagining Chuck Norris thrusting his fist into the air and shouting 'HEART!!'
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:07 pmTo clear things up, I, coachjason, posted #29. I don't know how my handle changed, but it's not the first time... Hopefully it's the last!
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:08 pmdid you briefly become tightie rightie? if so, shower immediately and scrub vigorously!
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:08 pmBranson is amazing! I would like to discuss windmills in Upsate, NY. Please email me.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:10 pmBranson is amazing! I would like to discuss Windmills in Upstate, NY. Please email me.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:11 pmBranson is investing 3 billion on collecting cows farts and using them as alternative aircraft fuel
But good on him
did you know 120 miles sq of solar panels in a desert could fuel all the worlds electric needs ???
we could split this up into the worlds 240 countries that would require each building 0.5 miles by 120 miles solar panels...not too much then for a world project of course we would all have to make americas share as it would veto this
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:19 pmHey PLC How did you become the runt of the litter (lol)??? comment by tightie rightie
Great question! Actually, at age 18, my first year in a conservative Christian college, I was actually a **gasp** young Republican for about three minutes. You've heard the joke about the "republican" puppies that became "democrat" puppies after they opened their eyes. I guess that's what happened to this "runt". I became independent for many years, although finding myself increasingly in favor of Democrats over Republicans. I finally registered as a Democrat during Bush I.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:23 pmI can only presume that Branson is also shutting down all his airlines and train companies as they are huge polluters. I am also guesing he is getting rid of all his extra homes, boats, and is now only using public transportation. Otherwise he looks like a hypocrit.
Comment by Roger_Roger
Still stuck on clenis Roger^2?
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:35 pmwhat the heck??? My name and e-mail address were just changed on that last post… now I know tightie righties e-mail… how the heck did that happen??? Is he out there posting as me somewhere???
Comment by coachjason
Sockpuppet
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:37 pmBranson has humbled himself, now if only the GOP and Bush would do the same instead of spending 45 million on smear campaigns.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:40 pmGreat! Now how do I convince them both that fusion alternatives are the most efficient approach to solving the problem?
Our organization, the Focus Fusion Society - http://focusfusion.org/ -
is dedicated to developing fusion energy, ASAP, by advocating a
systematic approach to exploring fusion alternatives, and supporting
that research ourselves for the focus fusion approach.
We're not talking cold fusion, fission, or conventional ITER fusion. It's all those alternatives out there that you've never heard of. Fusion is much closer than people think, but funding and debate on it is curiously lacking. It needs advocates! It needs a Fusion X-prize.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:50 pmI don't know what Branson's persuasion (l/r) be but he has an open mind and loves to lead on cutting edge issues. To critizise him make absolutely no sense at all.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:51 pmAl Gore nows has a formitable partner, which he desperately needed to get the message out that global warming will be ruinious to future generations if it not confronted headon sooner rather than later.
This may be a life and death issue, and certainly not a left or right issue.
Smart people have to lead on this. And we know people associated with this administration are not amoungst them.
Sockpuppet
Comment by Dick
Actually the politically correct term is elongated footwarmer (and odor fighter) with another's hand up my bottom. Please get it right! (lol)
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:53 pmThe 2008 Democratic Presidential primary races will be very interesting, with Progs backing Gore and the Clintonistas backing Hill'reh. I wonder where John Kerry is going to fit in all this?
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:56 pmanyone else see that clinton announced his new billion dollar investment fund today? the green fund will invest in research and technologies to decrease greenhouse gases and our dependence on petroleum. wait, so he's saying capitalism and environmentalism are not mutually exclusive? why does bill clinton hate capitalism and mother earth? why, bill, why?
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:00 pmbranson is nothing but publicity seeking opportunist. so he read a few books on GW. lets see him talk the talk and take his pollution spewing 747s out of the air.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:44 pmgee, jason. you're a heck of a businessman. how exactly will he operate his airline without planes? do you have any concept how many ads he could run for $3 billion if he just wanted some publicity?
really, why are people against this? it's not your money, why do you care? is it that he's getting publicity and you're jealous? well, donate $3 billion to any cause, then!
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:50 pmGlobal Warming is a future big problem, but the most important issue at present is Bush about to ignite global WWIII attacking Iran! The Earth will be a burned up cinder, if a nuclear war occurs, so nobody left alive to worry about the destroyed global environment! I like Gore, but he needs to use his time to attack the Bush Regime warmongering too!
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:19 pm#43 I agree, it will be interesting. I am hoping that wasn't pure snark. The centrists will back Hilary (and yes, despite propaganda that she won't run coming from her camp...she will). We progs (I actually love that term) will back Gore/Feingold/Clark. One of those three will do. Unfortunately, we will lose and we will hold our noses and vote Hilary in the general. She will probably win. I don't see any viable Repub candidates, especially with the general dislike of Republicans these days. This could change in the next two years...maybe some Republican will bring us all together. LOL, that WAS snark.
September 22nd, 2006 at 10:31 pmGlobal Warming is a myth!!!! Why do most scientists agree its happening? Because they have no morals and are selling out to grant money.
September 22nd, 2006 at 10:32 pmAnyone ever heard of grant money to disprove global warming?
Reminds me of "The Emperor's new clothes"
I do like the idea of alternative fuel and the liquidization of coal seems very promising. Branson is doing this not as a great jesture of his new found love of the environment but for his love of money.
Being a smart businessman he realizes that if alternative fuels are developed the price of all fuels drop because of competition.
Go ahead you tree huggers and hold him up as a new prize but don't be upset when you find out its true capitalism that drives him and he does this for PR.
Oh how many of you have written to support the California Attorney General who is suing the Auto industry for global warming?
Last time I checked it was supposed to be the fuel that pollutes.... but someone has to put that fuel in the vehicle..... I wonder how he gets to work???
And by the way...Kerry will not fit in anywhere.
September 22nd, 2006 at 10:32 pmSteve, you do know that nobody listens to the Jesus-Krispy on the corner right? Well, you are he.
September 22nd, 2006 at 10:41 pmHim? Not sure on the grammar there.
September 22nd, 2006 at 11:05 pmYour point? I can understand when confronted with logic, it's easier to resort to name calling then to engage in meaningful discussion.
September 23rd, 2006 at 12:35 amStevie, you have never brought one valid point to any discussion...so...you can keep saying "Global warming is a myth!!!" or you can say something intelligent and maybe people will engage you.
September 23rd, 2006 at 12:58 amI think this says it all "Richard Branson, who yesterday pledged $3 billion to invest in alternative energy "
September 23rd, 2006 at 1:17 amThat doesn't say gave or donated.
Are you still looking for grant money to disprove global warming?
#55 What are you talking about? Branson invests in alternative energy...so that means...Global warming is a myth!!! Huh?
September 23rd, 2006 at 1:24 amNo it means he could give a crap less about the environment and needs an alternative fuel to lower his costs.
September 23rd, 2006 at 1:32 amOnce alternatives like coal to liquid hit the market the price of oil falls in the toilet. Not only does he get a cheap fuel but it is more stable because a its not coming from the unstable middle east.
he is not an enviromental hero he is just a very smart and rich businessman. I'm surprised your buddy Al Gore is going along with this because his shares in Oxy Petro will lose value.
Wow Stevie, you are really reaching. Not only are you directly contradicting what Branson said you are saying that that alternative fuels will compete with oil sometime soon and actually be a more attractive investment than oil sometime soon. Are you insane?
September 23rd, 2006 at 1:39 amNo I am informed. As long as gas prices stay above the $18 a barrel level Coal Liquidifaction is profitable. The military is all ready conducting test on these fuels.
September 23rd, 2006 at 2:09 amMost of the Midwest is already building many ethanol plants. I'm not insane by any means.... I just don't have my head buried in the sand.
Steve, you do know about the corporate welfare system right? Oil companies have an incredible advantage because of the government givaways. You are against welfare, right?
September 23rd, 2006 at 2:31 amSteve, I'm not sure what exactly you think you're railing against.
Regarding grants to disprove global warming: You know at some point science determines that a theory is valid and invests in fleshing it out further. Is your alma mater currently seeking grants to disprove Newton's Laws or that the earth is round. How many studies proving global warming exists do you need. If you get one more, will it finally do it for you?
Regarding Branson investing in alternative fuels: Of course he is investing. The trolls on here cannot seem to grasp the notion that something can be both better for business and the environment. They are NOT mutually exclusive. So the guy gets some good PR out of this. Why does that bother people? However, if this were just a publicity stunt, he would have pledged $3 million, not $3 billion. For $3 billion, he could buy all the publicity he wants, and - newsflash - the guys is in the news all the time anyway.
Regarding the California lawsuit: I have to admit that sounds like election year grandstanding. If California had set a greenhouse gas emiision limit for the automakers products and then they subsequently exceeded those limits, by all means hold them accountable, but to sue them without a law to back it up is just a show.
Also, the numbers I'm seeing for coal gasification indicate break-even closer to the $35/barrel mark, not $18.
From Wikipedia entry on coal:
Estimates of the cost of producing liquid fuels from coal suggest that domestic U.S. production of fuel from coal becomes cost-competitive with oil priced at around 35 USD per barrel [8], (break-even cost). This price, while above historical averages, is well below current oil prices. This makes coal a viable financial alternative to oil for the time being, although production is not great enough to make synfuels viable on a large scale. [9].
So synfuel is one viable alternative, but there are several and it is important not to hitch our nation to any one technology this time around.
September 23rd, 2006 at 8:53 amTo add a bit on coal liquidification. It is not very efficient. To date, it is only used in countries where standard fuel resources cannot be transported easily to.
Realistically, the break even mark is even higher than 35$ due to the location of our coal reserves.
As for the whole global warming is a myth thing. Why is it that you beleive this? What is your background on this issue. I happen to have worked with one of the scientists that was called in front of various committees such as the senate and that california lawsuit. One thing that I have learned is that a clear and large majority of legitimate scientists believe that there are forces that we are a main contributor to that are currently causing global warming.
I want to make a guess here and say that your scientific research background is very weak steve. This is because you seem to adopt the dogma that most creationists and intelligent design supporters share with the no global warming supporters. That is in its simplified form: if you can poke a hole somewhere, the entire thing must be wrong. Any legitimate researcher knows that science revises itself repeatedly to approach an absolute. Any hole that is poked means another revision is at hand. So the researchers that are asking for grant money to prove one thing or the other are not doing so in a frivolous manner, but to in fact research more about this phenomenon so that we can know more about this.
Has anyone every heard about global cooling? Both factors appear to be at work on our environment. Global cooling is basically due to the large amount of particulates that we release into the air. This can cause less solar radiation to actuallly hit the ground and for that radiation to become scattered. This in effect can mask the true effect of global warming. However, the most compelling tenet of global cooling lies in chemistry. This is the fact that water is polar. This means that it will aggregate around these particulates. When water in the atmosphere naturally aggregates, it forms rain. These particulates appear to accelerate the rain formation process. This in effect means that rain forms earlier than it should and lands earlier that it normally would. Now the effect of this is that rain patterns can shift.
September 23rd, 2006 at 11:14 amHuman caused global warming is not Science. This is what we know from real geological data:
The earth has had many periods of both cooling and warming and it may just well be a cycle that the earth goes through. We know also that the earth has experienced some tramatic Cause Events.
Meteor strikes and volcanic eruptions are just a couple that caused major climate changes. The fact is that the earth recovered from these events.
I'm not disputing that climate changes occur. I'm disputing that the reason for them is Man-made.
The actual weather data we have is just a little over 100 years. That snapshot of an erath that is 4.5 Billion years old is meaningless for real scientific data. The truth is we don't know.
Money is being spent on researching something we most likely have no control over. Why not use all that feel good money on some other noble purpose?
I'm sure given the opportunity there are homeless advocates who would love to have the kind of money that is spent on Global Warming research.
Ok now on the coal issue. I did misquote $18. $35 does seem the more likely target. I got the $18 from a proposal I saw from the CEO of Jet Blue. What he was asking for was a government guarantee of $38 per barrel down to $18. The proposal can be found here
He also said that with 79 plants we could be totally free from imported oil.
The problem is that it cost approximately $4 Billion to build each plant and if oil fell through the floor it could be all for nothing.
Charlie I'm not sure you can have both global warming and cooling at the same time.
September 23rd, 2006 at 12:16 pmThose of you who are calling Branson a hypocrite aren't really thinking things through very much. Sure, his planes cause a lot of CO2 omissions, but it wouldn't do any good for him to shut down his airline. Everybody needs to use a plane once in awhile, so if he shut it down it would just be bought up by someone else.
Instead, Branson is doing what everybody should be doing: he is offsetting the damage he is doing by contributing what he can to the solution.
We could all follow Branson's lead by doing things like calculating how much CO2 we produce with our weekly business flights and what not and then taking steps to reduce our CO2 emissions by the same amount. Sort of like how catholics use Hail Marys to forgive their sins. Google 'emission calculator'
For those of you who are naysayers about the effects of global warming, a grave warning: open your eyes before it's too late. Not only 'too late' because of the actual effects of global warming, but also the human backlash against those who mislead us today. After the Environmental Revolution of 2010, the fake scientists, profiteers, and naysayers will be found and brought to justice for what they have done. Make sure you are on the right side before it's too late.
September 23rd, 2006 at 4:38 pmI thought Co2 was plant food? Carbon monoxide is the problem.
September 24th, 2006 at 8:41 amGore is a hypocrite. He and Clinton made the following promise in 1992 in "Putting People First":
"Increase corporate average fuel economy standards from the current 27.5 miles per gallon to 40 miles per gallon by the year 2000, and 45 miles per gallon by 2015." (p. 90)
However, when the Clinton-Gore left the White House after eight years in office, CAFE stood at 27.5 miles per gallon. That's right, the man who wrote Earth in the Balance and was the "most influential vice president in history" didn't do a thing to reduce our dependency on foreign energy sources. He spent all his time raising money from Buddhist nuns and crooks at coffee klatches, and defending the most corrupt president in history.
September 24th, 2006 at 2:25 pm[...] Good Morning America har en liten tv-intervju med Richard Branson och Al Gore som handlar om Bransons satsning. [...]
September 25th, 2006 at 6:06 amSteve.
Well, sorry buddy, but if you're telling me all sorts of man-made products don't have an impact on the environment, from batteries being dumped in land fills, to oil spills in the ocean, to cars producing carbon monoxide...if they don't impact the Earth in some way...I don't know what to tell you.
Good luck with that.
September 27th, 2006 at 1:23 amIt is great that the these men are showing the leadership required to address the greatest global problem man has created. However using another fuel is not going to reduce the heat generated by the engines producing the unnatual warming.
October 4th, 2006 at 8:58 pmThe area that would be better for Sir Richard to look at is the Starrport Airport Concept. I am in 100% Pure New Zealand and think the earth needs to look at energy reduction first .
Lets not wait Sir Richard for the Day after Tomorrow, lets get Starrports operational so that you make more profit which can be used for other fuel and engine developments.
Talk talk talk !!!
The only way to effectively combat global warming is population control. Voluntary euthanasia and birth control must be aggressively promoted.
The most effective contributors were Hitler (6 million + descendents dead) and African dictators (at least as many). Branson and Gore are tossers - you can't control people's expectations - just get rid of the people!.
February 9th, 2007 at 2:19 pmEverybody is talking about limiting emmissioms. Another large part of the problem is global deforestation. Quit clearing the rain forest of Brazil to grow more soy beans. Quit destroying the mangrove systems in order to grow shrimp. These trees suck up tons of CO daily. Not an answr by itself, but just as big a problem as oil burning engines.
February 9th, 2007 at 9:28 pmas we have learned in k-12,1-4/5,-2-4 and on the only thing that is gotten by socalled " GIVING to CHARITY " is the massive tax break that they recieve, So lets say that you pay uncle sam 33/35% tax, if you give it away you only pay 13% tax, SO IF you have $1 million = in tax you would pay $ 333,000.00 - NOW with the same amount, you give to charity, inwriteoff tax is $130,000, now what nut would want to give the larger, no give away ,end of year claim it as donation ======
February 10th, 2007 at 6:15 amCHEAPER. MAKES SINCE TO GIVE AWAY= rich get richer = stupid get poorer.
Guys, get your perspective on the situation sorted out. I'm an aerospace engineer. A family car (I'm not even gonna mention SUVs) uses more fuel per passenger mile than a Boeing 767.
Through ACARE and Greener By Design, the aerospace industry is making massive leaps towards reducing harmful emissions and fuel consumption. Time to put the same targets for the automobile industry.
February 10th, 2007 at 10:28 amNo
February 14th, 2007 at 12:14 pmdear AL GORE,and sir richard branson...
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REAL,PRIMARY ESSENCE FOR ALL PROBLEMS OF HUMANKIND AND NATURE IS NOTHING ELSE BUT MAN! BUT,WHAT KIND OF MAN? THATS IS MAN WHO KILL AND EAT ANIMALS AND USED THE ANIMALS FOR HIS BLOOD BUSSINESS/animals was ,from unhuman, man kill and use for food,cosmetics,cure,test laboratori,in army,for dressed,for shoes,for doping in sports and for sexual problems/...IN ONE WORLD WHERE PEOPLE/HUMANITY EAT AND KILLS ANIMALS IS WORLD OF MENTAL-ABNORMAL,BIOLOGICAL DEGENERICS/MUTANTS AND IT'S WORLD WHERE ALL PEOPLE WAS SPIRITUAL SLEEPING AND LIVE LIKE ZOMBIES AND ALL THEY LIVE IN HIPNOSIS;NOT REALY LIVE AND THEIRS ACTIVITIES IS NOTHING BUT KILLING ANIMALS,NATURAL;KILL PURE EAR AND KILL CLEAR WATER AND KILL KIDS BECAUSE FOR NO FOOD AND CLEAR WATER...how?!FIND THE REASONS FIRST!
1kg meat from animals kill 20.000 l clear water;
1 kg meat from animals kill 15kvm2/?/ rainforrest...
1 kg meat from animals kill 15 kids who duying for food and clear water...for that kill one poor and silent animals from maybe 500kg...if you it just 1 hamburger you are part of global climatic katastrophes...
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WHERE IS ROOTS OF PROBLEMS THERE IS SOLUTIONS...
i wan't to support me people arround the world...my idea is to make together E ekological-vegan-vegetarian political party...no other way to save planet from people who kill and eating animals;after that people will go kill and eating people!
there is other opcion:all goverments of world to bring LOW FOR FREDOOM OF ANIMALS FROM MAN AND PROTECTION ANIMALS FROM MAN AND NO USE ANIMALS FOR FOOD,BUSSINESS,ARMY,DRESED,SHOES,COSMETICS,GMO,TEST LABORATORY,WORK...
war for freedom from animals started buddha,moses,jesus,muhamad.a.s...we don't finished that...end of all wars is war for freedom for all animals...the first and last war who maybe never we no need to make...if people stop eating animals...violence under animals is essence of global climatical radical changes...stop you kill and eating animals than you see what happened...never in history 6.000.000.000 people eat over 50.000.000.000 big animals just in 1 year!!!
just people who eating animals are violence and make wars;untill today over 150.000 mans wars;wars make just man-never women!
thats enough blood and we must stopped kill and eating animals...man first kill animal;than he kill man and at the end himself!
without no-eating,no kill animals global problems like climatic today,nobody can stopped katastrophes and disasters;thats is I M M P O S S I B L E !
eko kolaps,fire,storms,cities underwater,nuklear centrales,chemical factory and many more troubles-all together!!!complette disaster! and you now thinking about new movie picture,new car,music,more money?!!
i have all solutions for all problems.i said in short version just essencial problem...
im orhan,35 years!im from macedonia!i no have team...I KNOW MAN WHO KNOW HOW SAVE PLANET AND HE IS REAL SCIENTIST;HIS BORN 1926 AND ITS MAN WHO KNOWS MILION PEOPLES ARROUND THE WORLD! WHO IS THAT MAN?
SOLUTIONS WHO IS INTRUDUCING TO WORLD FROM SCIENTISTS IS...VERY FANNY! PURE APSURD! THEY DIDN;T KNOW WHAT DAMAGE BRING THAT SOLUTION/i speak for solution from text about apel of sir richard branson/...WE CAN NOT PLAY AND DO IT EXPERIMENTES...WAY EXIST AND MAN WHO KNOW HOW-IS STILL ALIVE!!! WHY YOU PLAY WITH PEOPLE?FOR MUCH MONEY? SIR RICHARD BRANSON AND CO. GET FROM PEOPLE 2 .OOO.OOO.OOO $ AND GIVE TO SOMEBODY 25 MILIONS $? BINGO?WHAT IS THAT?
SOLUTION EXIST AND I KNOW WHO IS THAT MAN...IM HERE...BUT THERE IS ANOTHER MAN...HI MAN IS MICHIO KUSHI !!! best student of GHEORGHE OHSAWA!!!
February 17th, 2007 at 11:58 amno need money...i don t need and michio kushi have enough!!!all other scientists must be cooperated with michio!!!
this letter i use for history...i will speak to all world "sir richard brenson not serious man;he just acting;he is actor!" LAST WARRNING:"SIR RICHARD BRANSON SAVE PLANET;CALL MICHIO KUSHI...PLEASE!DON'T MAKE ME NERVOUS...AND I LOOSE PATION! I BELIEVE YOU LISTEN TO ME AND I THANK YOU..."
P.C.michio kushi is not my friend and i not his student;i just read michio's books...
dear AL GORE,there and sir richard branson...
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ATTENTION!!!READ ALL TEXT CAREFULLY...SEE END OF THIS LETTER...
From: "orhan arslani" Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Capital 1...
REAL,PRIMARY ESSENCE FOR ALL PROBLEMS OF HUMANKIND AND NATURE IS NOTHING ELSE BUT MAN! BUT,WHAT KIND OF MAN? THATS IS MAN WHO KILL AND EAT ANIMALS AND USED THE ANIMALS FOR HIS BLOOD BUSSINESS/animals was ,from unhuman, man kill and use for food,cosmetics,cure,test laboratori,in army,for dressed,for shoes,for doping in sports and for sexual problems/...IN ONE WORLD WHERE PEOPLE/HUMANITY EAT AND KILLS ANIMALS IS WORLD OF MENTAL-ABNORMAL,BIOLOGICAL DEGENERICS/MUTANTS AND IT'S WORLD WHERE ALL PEOPLE WAS SPIRITUAL SLEEPING AND LIVE LIKE ZOMBIES AND ALL THEY LIVE IN HIPNOSIS;NOT REALY LIVE AND THEIRS ACTIVITIES IS NOTHING BUT KILLING ANIMALS,NATURAL;KILL PURE EAR AND KILL CLEAR WATER AND KILL KIDS BECAUSE FOR NO FOOD AND CLEAR WATER...how?!FIND THE REASONS FIRST!
1kg meat from animals kill 20.000 l clear water;
1 kg meat from animals kill 15kvm2/?/ rainforrest...
1 kg meat from animals kill 15 kids who duying for food and clear water...for that kill one poor and silent animals from maybe 500kg...if you it just 1 hamburger you are part of global climatic katastrophes...
ekological,vegan food and made food from ground/NOT "gmo"/ is one and all that is connection...
1 calories from animal meat that is 10 calories oil ! ask you self why one country attack another country!
all humanity have a problems...essence of any kind of problem is in killing and eat animals...'anima' means 'soul'...essence of 'food' take with violence,killing from animals is nothing else but BLOOD!!!thats blood product and not grow up directly from the ground...any kind of meat,milk,eggs,fish and any kind of animals kill for eating,for food for your children is nothing but BLOOD PRODUCT!!!kill animals is murder...eat 'food' frpm animals is eating nothing but EATING BLOOD!!! thats not food for your children...
man who duying from 'cancer' is killer/he eat animals/;it is suicide/he don't want to healing with natural food/;hi is 'autocannibalist' HE EATING SELF!!!
industry and factories kill ear,water,natural,animals,people and kids...
newspaper,books kill many forrest...
you want more?
im hungry now...
WHERE IS ROOTS OF PROBLEMS THERE IS SOLUTIONS...
i wan't to support me people arround the world...my idea is to make together E ekological-vegan-vegetarian political party...no other way to save planet from people who kill and eating animals;after that people will go kill and eating people!
there is other opcion:all goverments of world to bring LOW FOR FREDOOM OF ANIMALS FROM MAN AND PROTECTION ANIMALS FROM MAN AND NO USE ANIMALS FOR FOOD,BUSSINESS,ARMY,DRESED,SHOES,COSMETICS,GMO,TEST LABORATORY,WORK...
war for freedom from animals started buddha,moses,jesus,muhamad.a.s...we don't finished that...end of all wars is war for freedom for all animals...the first and last war who maybe never we no need to make...if people stop eating animals...violence under animals is essence of global climatical radical changes...stop you kill and eating animals than you see what happened...never in history 6.000.000.000 people eat over 50.000.000.000 big animals just in 1 year!!!
just people who eating animals are violence and make wars;untill today over 150.000 mans wars;wars make just man-never women!
thats enough blood and we must stopped kill and eating animals...man first kill animal;than he kill man and at the end himself!
without no-eating,no kill animals global problems like climatic today,nobody can stopped katastrophes and disasters;thats is I M M P O S S I B L E !
eko kolaps,fire,storms,cities underwater,nuklear centrales,chemical factory and many more troubles-all together!!!complette disaster! and you now thinking about new movie picture,new car,music,more money?!!
i have all solutions for all problems.i said in short version just essencial problem...
im orhan,35 years!im from macedonia!i no have team...I KNOW MAN WHO KNOW HOW SAVE PLANET AND HE IS REAL SCIENTIST;HIS BORN 1926 AND ITS MAN WHO KNOWS MILION PEOPLES ARROUND THE WORLD! WHO IS THAT MAN?
SOLUTIONS WHO IS INTRUDUCING TO WORLD FROM SCIENTISTS IS...VERY FANNY! PURE APSURD! THEY DIDN;T KNOW WHAT DAMAGE BRING THAT SOLUTION/i speak for solution from text about apel of sir richard branson/...WE CAN NOT PLAY AND DO IT EXPERIMENTES...WAY EXIST AND MAN WHO KNOW HOW-IS STILL ALIVE!!! WHY YOU PLAY WITH PEOPLE?FOR MUCH MONEY? SIR RICHARD BRANSON AND CO. GET FROM PEOPLE 2 .OOO.OOO.OOO $ AND GIVE TO SOMEBODY 25 MILIONS $? BINGO?WHAT IS THAT?
SOLUTION EXIST AND I KNOW WHO IS THAT MAN...IM HERE...BUT THERE IS ANOTHER MAN...HI MAN IS MICHIO KUSHI !!! best student of GHEORGHE OHSAWA!!!
February 17th, 2007 at 12:00 pmno need money...i don t need and michio kushi have enough!!!all other scientists must be cooperated with michio!!!
this letter i use for history...i will speak to all world "sir richard brenson not serious man;he just acting;he is actor!" LAST WARRNING:"SIR RICHARD BRANSON SAVE PLANET;CALL MICHIO KUSHI...PLEASE!DON'T MAKE ME NERVOUS...AND I LOOSE PATION! I BELIEVE YOU LISTEN TO ME AND I THANK YOU..."
P.C.michio kushi is not my friend and i not his student;i just read michio's books...
dear AL GORE,there is letter who i send to sir richard branson...
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ATTENTION!!!READ ALL TEXT CAREFULLY...SEE END OF THIS LETTER...
From: "orhan arslani" Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Capital 1...
REAL,PRIMARY ESSENCE FOR ALL PROBLEMS OF HUMANKIND AND NATURE IS NOTHING ELSE BUT MAN! BUT,WHAT KIND OF MAN? THATS IS MAN WHO KILL AND EAT ANIMALS AND USED THE ANIMALS FOR HIS BLOOD BUSSINESS/animals was ,from unhuman, man kill and use for food,cosmetics,cure,test laboratori,in army,for dressed,for shoes,for doping in sports and for sexual problems/...IN ONE WORLD WHERE PEOPLE/HUMANITY EAT AND KILLS ANIMALS IS WORLD OF MENTAL-ABNORMAL,BIOLOGICAL DEGENERICS/MUTANTS AND IT'S WORLD WHERE ALL PEOPLE WAS SPIRITUAL SLEEPING AND LIVE LIKE ZOMBIES AND ALL THEY LIVE IN HIPNOSIS;NOT REALY LIVE AND THEIRS ACTIVITIES IS NOTHING BUT KILLING ANIMALS,NATURAL;KILL PURE EAR AND KILL CLEAR WATER AND KILL KIDS BECAUSE FOR NO FOOD AND CLEAR WATER...how?!FIND THE REASONS FIRST!
1kg meat from animals kill 20.000 l clear water;
1 kg meat from animals kill 15kvm2/?/ rainforrest...
1 kg meat from animals kill 15 kids who duying for food and clear water...for that kill one poor and silent animals from maybe 500kg...if you it just 1 hamburger you are part of global climatic katastrophes...
ekological,vegan food and made food from ground/NOT "gmo"/ is one and all that is connection...
1 calories from animal meat that is 10 calories oil ! ask you self why one country attack another country!
all humanity have a problems...essence of any kind of problem is in killing and eat animals...'anima' means 'soul'...essence of 'food' take with violence,killing from animals is nothing else but BLOOD!!!thats blood product and not grow up directly from the ground...any kind of meat,milk,eggs,fish and any kind of animals kill for eating,for food for your children is nothing but BLOOD PRODUCT!!!kill animals is murder...eat 'food' frpm animals is eating nothing but EATING BLOOD!!! thats not food for your children...
man who duying from 'cancer' is killer/he eat animals/;it is suicide/he don't want to healing with natural food/;hi is 'autocannibalist' HE EATING SELF!!!
industry and factories kill ear,water,natural,animals,people and kids...
newspaper,books kill many forrest...
you want more?
im hungry now...
WHERE IS ROOTS OF PROBLEMS THERE IS SOLUTIONS...
i wan't to support me people arround the world...my idea is to make together E ekological-vegan-vegetarian political party...no other way to save planet from people who kill and eating animals;after that people will go kill and eating people!
there is other opcion:all goverments of world to bring LOW FOR FREDOOM OF ANIMALS FROM MAN AND PROTECTION ANIMALS FROM MAN AND NO USE ANIMALS FOR FOOD,BUSSINESS,ARMY,DRESED,SHOES,COSMETICS,GMO,TEST LABORATORY,WORK...
war for freedom from animals started buddha,moses,jesus,muhamad.a.s...we don't finished that...end of all wars is war for freedom for all animals...the first and last war who maybe never we no need to make...if people stop eating animals...violence under animals is essence of global climatical radical changes...stop you kill and eating animals than you see what happened...never in history 6.000.000.000 people eat over 50.000.000.000 big animals just in 1 year!!!
just people who eating animals are violence and make wars;untill today over 150.000 mans wars;wars make just man-never women!
thats enough blood and we must stopped kill and eating animals...man first kill animal;than he kill man and at the end himself!
without no-eating,no kill animals global problems like climatic today,nobody can stopped katastrophes and disasters;thats is I M M P O S S I B L E !
eko kolaps,fire,storms,cities underwater,nuklear centrales,chemical factory and many more troubles-all together!!!complette disaster! and you now thinking about new movie picture,new car,music,more money?!!
i have all solutions for all problems.i said in short version just essencial problem...
im orhan,35 years!im from macedonia!i no have team...I KNOW MAN WHO KNOW HOW SAVE PLANET AND HE IS REAL SCIENTIST;HIS BORN 1926 AND ITS MAN WHO KNOWS MILION PEOPLES ARROUND THE WORLD! WHO IS THAT MAN?
SOLUTIONS WHO IS INTRUDUCING TO WORLD FROM SCIENTISTS IS...VERY FANNY! PURE APSURD! THEY DIDN;T KNOW WHAT DAMAGE BRING THAT SOLUTION/i speak for solution from text about apel of sir richard branson/...WE CAN NOT PLAY AND DO IT EXPERIMENTES...WAY EXIST AND MAN WHO KNOW HOW-IS STILL ALIVE!!! WHY YOU PLAY WITH PEOPLE?FOR MUCH MONEY? SIR RICHARD BRANSON AND CO. GET FROM PEOPLE 2 .OOO.OOO.OOO $ AND GIVE TO SOMEBODY 25 MILIONS $? BINGO?WHAT IS THAT?
SOLUTION EXIST AND I KNOW WHO IS THAT MAN...IM HERE...BUT THERE IS ANOTHER MAN...HI MAN IS MICHIO KUSHI !!! best student of GHEORGHE OHSAWA!!!
February 17th, 2007 at 12:01 pmno need money...i don t need and michio kushi have enough!!!all other scientists must be cooperated with michio!!!
this letter i use for history...i will speak to all world "sir richard brenson not serious man;he just acting;he is actor!" LAST WARRNING:"SIR RICHARD BRANSON SAVE PLANET;CALL MICHIO KUSHI...PLEASE!DON'T MAKE ME NERVOUS...AND I LOOSE PATION! I BELIEVE YOU LISTEN TO ME AND I THANK YOU..."
P.C.michio kushi is not my friend and i not his student;i just read michio's books...