New O’Reilly Book: Osama Bin Laden Supports American Progressives
New O’Reilly Book: Osama Bin Laden Supports American Progressives
ThinkProgress has obtained an advance copy of Bill O’Reilly’s new book, Culture Warrior. In it, O’Reilly claims that Osama bin Laden supports American progressives. Some excerpts from Chapter 7:
Who do you think Osama Bin Laden supports in the American culture war: the traditionalists or the secular-progressives?
…[T]hink about what I am about to put forth: From his hideout somewhere in the Mulism world, Osama bin Laden and his coheorts have got to be cheering on the S-P [secular-progressive] movement…
Why does Osama bin Laden support progressives in America? O’Reilly explains that they both hate America:
…[I]t is rooted in the one thing that the secular-progressive movement and Al Qaeda have in common: Both outfits believe that the United States of America is fundamentally a bad place.
…The bedrock belief that America is, and has been, an evil country is crucial to understanding the secular-progressive point of view when it comes to the war on terror.
O’Reilly, ends the chapter with the logical conclusion: join him in the fight against progressives or die:
All clear-thinking Americans should become opponents of the S-P [secular-progressive] movement for the simple reason of self-preservation.
Meanwhile, according to O’Reilly, bin Laden is out to get him. In an interview with Barbara Walters, O’Reilly claims that the FBI informed him he was put on an al Qaeda “death list.” The claim was disputed by an FBI officer.
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We should all file a class action lawsuit for defamation and slander.
;-)
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:52 pmAnd this is different from Hate speech how?
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:53 pmI’ve never understood this fashion of being proud of being a complete idiot.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:56 pmSo what? Is O’Reilly trying to create an absurd form of guilt by association? If Bin Laden uses (used) toilet paper after going to the bathroom, should we progressive Americans fear to also use toilet paper after going to the bathroom? The Reich-wing is out of arguments and their Republican stooges are going down big time on November 7th… All their lies and treason are being exposed for what they are: lies and treason.
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:57 pmCheers.
From Ron Suskind’s One Percent Doctrine, pages 335-6:
Bill O’Reilly is an idiot who badly misinforms the American public.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:01 pmI would think there is good argument that Osama would be happy with people like Bill O’Reilly because he and other Bush supporters are shrinking the soul of our nation with their promotion of torture. In addition the Bushies are weakening our best and most enduring national security, our Constitution, with their illegal warrantless wiretapping and heaven only knows what other illegal spy programs.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:01 pmO’Lielly is starting to show his true colors. Intelligent well-read Americans (of whom there are unfortunately not enough) will remember the term “Kulturkampf” - from Nazi Germany.
His deceit, even in this short excerpt, is in what he doesn’t say - that bin Laden would see the United States destroyed, while the “secular-progressives” would see it made better.
This particular deceit is beginning to wear too thin to stand up, especially since it was overused to prop up the insane idea that (secular, though certainly not progressive) Saddam Hussein would have had any use for (religious zealot) bin Laden other than as the object of a public execution. And that insanity was used, and still IS being used, to excuse an insane and unjust war.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:01 pmThis so ridiculous on every level. GWB has been the greatest Al Queda recruitment agents OBL could have ever wished for.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:02 pmShorter O’Reilly:
Fire with fire doesn’t really work in the real world, Bill…
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:02 pmYou really have to be a dumbass American to watch this pathetic clown pontificate and catapult the propaganda. Unfortunately with the dumbing down and increasing apathy in Americans this bombastic sorry ass still has an audience albeit a dimishing one.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:08 pmI do hate what America has become, but unlike Osama, I am not looking to take out my anger by blowing things up. I want to work to change America (without explosives!)
Think about the radical right in this country. Why aren’t THEY being compared to Osama? I’ve heard about them bombing abortion clinics, and absuing children by scaring them into thinking hell awaits, and that they must fight (as in literally battle it out) for Jesus.
Bill has to understand there are better people to compare Osama too.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:08 pmBin Laden isn’t quite as much of a dumbass as the Republicans would like you to believe. If he supports anyone it is the Republicans, because shit he keeps on releasing these handy little videos whenever the Republicans are in trouble.
If he wanted the Democrats to win he wouldn’t be trying so damn hard to keep the Republicans in power.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:10 pmBill’s the man! Seriously, he may be a pompous jerk, but he’s a hero of the culture wars!
“The bedrock belief that America is, and has been, an evil country is crucial to understanding the secular-progressive point of view”
This is mostly true, at least if one only inspects the comments sections of progressive blogs such as this one. Which, of course, might only mean that they generally attract just hateful progressives…
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:11 pmOliely is f*cking psychotic.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:11 pmAbsolutely bat-shit insane, this guy is.
This excerpt implies a total disregard for reality. Why would fundamentalist religious groups align themselves with alleged secular humanists?!?!?
Conservatives love a good myth, though, especially one that is as on message as O’Reilly’s myth is. You don’t need to check out history or examine the ideology of these two groups– you simply need to feel it in your gut.
This is “truthiness” at its finest.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:11 pmHe’s also trying to turn people against the label progressive with his “secular-progressive”. My suggestion: always talk about “elitist-conservative”.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:13 pmI am so sick of this “progressives hate America and blame America first” line of BS.
The fact is that terrorists hate America because of events in the past they feel America has betrayed them or attacked them unfairly. They also don’t like that sometimes the American Government acts in AMerica’s best interest and that conflicts with their self interests. Sometimes America is right in doing so and sometimes not.
The fact is that it is inevitable that mistakes get made and sometimes elected governments act on their own ambitions and not necessarily in the interests of the voters and citizens. To point out these mistakes and lack of priorities is NOT hating America or blamign America first…it is called DEMOCRACY and demanding that your elected officials represent the voters and not just their wealthy donors or their own radical agenda of what America should be.
People like O’Reilly and the extreme right want to point the finger and blame everyone else. Progressives are definitely not the “hate america” crowd…but O’Reilly and the loyal Bush followers are definitely the “point the finger” crowd and refuse to accept ANY responsibility for anything ever. It is always someone else’s fault and they are the poor victims of injustice.
It is that line of faulty reasoning and logic that not only will ensure that future radical governments like the Bush admin continue to make mistakes and cover them up or blame someone else. And if we continue to make the same mistakes over and over and over without ever listening to other ideas or criticism then why would those who truly hate America ever stop? We are only fueling the hatred and irrational fear of AMerica that they already fear…especially when we attack innocent countries and overthrow their leaders without reason and without a plan. Especially when we bomb their media and implant our own propaganda channel. Especially when we ensure that our own puppet officials get into office by any means necessary. What do we see now? Gee…a rise in terrorism and terrorist attacks the longer Bush’s war continues. Go figure. Iraq is now worse off than before? Gee. I guess I hate America too for pointing out FACTS. Better to ignore facts, kill more innocent people because that is the AMerican way according to O’Reilly.
If you ask me, believing America is a killing, torturing, war-hungry, weak victim of these evil muslims and that America is filled with self loathers and people who hate it…that is truly the view of someone who thinks poorly of America. You have to truly hate America to want to see it continue on the path that it has been and continue to believe that the voters are motivated by evil.
You don’t show your hatred for AMerica by pointing out mistakes any more than a teacher who points out a students mistakes hates that student. On the contrary, it is the DUTY of the teacher to point out mistakes. If the teacher doesn’t do so, then she is failing her job AND failing her students and not preparing them properly for the real world.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:13 pmThis guys twisted
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:14 pmNo Spin Zone my ASS!
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:19 pmWhat are this fox man’s credentials to make such assertions?
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:19 pmActually, I wear the progressive label and I try not to hate anything.
I certainly don’t hate America but I don’t approve of the conduct of the White House and the Republican congressional cabal.
This is obviously a GOP talking point straight from Karla Rove.
“Liberals/Progressives/Democrats support the Terrorists”
It is complete and total bullshit without any factual basis.
I am sick of this shit. If anybody says I’m with the terrorists because I’m a liberal, I am going to knock them down and stomp their face until all their teeth fall out in a bloody puddle.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:21 pmIf progressives hate America, it’s only because they hate the “new America” that tortures, starts unprovoked wars, spies on its citizens, lies to its citizens and practices other forms of fascism and corruption. This “new America” is the one that Bill O’Reilly loves. Progressives loved the way America was when we took the high, moral road, abided by the Constitution, abided by the Geneva Convention, abided by international laws and treaties, respected the U.N., respected our citizens and was a kinder, gentler, less corrupt America.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:22 pmI am now convinced that torture might be the only method for getting the truth out of O’Reilly.
Both outfits believe that the United States of America is fundamentally a bad place. …The bedrock belief that America is, and has been, an evil country is crucial to understanding the secular-progressive point of view when it comes to the war on terror.
Progressives only hate the America that BushCo is trying to create by destroying the great one we have had for 250 years.
Who do you think Osama Bin Laden supports in the American culture war: the traditionalists or the secular-progressives?
I don’t think he supports any spectrum of American culture. “Set ‘em up and knock ‘em down” O’Reilly’s strawman arguments are getting more and more infuriating.
I can’t wait to watch Olbermann’s smack down of this book.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:22 pmO’Reilly makes no sense and mis-characterizes bin Laden’s positions. It’s no wonder he’s on his death list.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:23 pmSince bin Laden mentions God frequently in his speeches he is probably upset to read that he favors anti-secularism, and then to read further that he favors anti-Bush forces when Bush has transformed Iraq into a fundamentalist Islamic state, which was bin Laden’s goal, must really piss him off.
Bush has given bin Laden exactly what he wants–Iraq, plus the useless expenditure of American blood and treasure on the sands of the Middle East. Why can’t O’Reilly see this? It doesn’t matter–he’s history now. Boo-hoo.
osama prefers republicans. everytime o’reily opens his mouth two new terrorists are created.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:24 pmThat would be a pretty good trick for a dead man. These repugs will believe anything their talking heads spew forth.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:24 pmTwo things
1. Progressives love America. If we didn’t care about America, we wouldn’t be making so much noise. The Right seems content to wave their little flags and sit idly-by while our finest American principles are destroyed.
2. Is O’reilly a religious man? What this “secular menace” crap coming from falafel-man?
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:29 pmNo one’s listening or watching him so this is his attention getter. Bin Laden wouldn’t wast his time on a wacko like Bill. Plus Bill needs to sell the book for money as the others didn’t do well. Bill is a draft dodger like his friends Bush/Cheney/Rummy. Remember Bill still has to pay the civil suit claim the woman took out. Fox only loaned him the money he has to pay it back. Now with the Nov. election likely to bring down the GOP Bill has to make his money fast. O’Reilly most likely was sitting right next to Bin Laden in Washington and didn’t know nor did Bin Laden care who he was just a diry old man who gets his kicks for phone sex because he can’t done the real thing. O’Reilly should hook up with Karl Rove now that Karl came out of the closet. Oh Jeff Gannon might not like that or maybe they can fight for their man Bill phone sex O’Reilly.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:33 pm“Osama bin Laden and his coheorts” - -Did the book really spell cohorts that way or is that a TP typo? If it’s the publisher they should be hung.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:33 pmIs that the real cover design? Hard to believe he thought Al Franken was using a bad picture for the cover of “LIES.”
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:35 pmBTW, let’s consider the language. “Culture Warrior”, the title of the book, is parallel to jihadist. I don’t think or feel like I’m at war with BushCo - it is a cultural “divide” or a “clash” of culture or a cultural “debate” or some other non-military/aggressive terminology. O’Reilly is presenting himself as a militaristic enemy of progressive Americans. What’s he going to do - capture us, kill us, torture us, destroy us? Progressives, in contrast, want to convince, pursuade. So, who is more moral?
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:35 pmCulture Warrior? That’s rich. Where in the book does he discuss the conservative, cultural significance of writing bad soft porn mysteries? How about the ideologically correct way of sexually harrassing a subbordinate with stories about a private moment with a fallafel?
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:35 pmThe truth is, Bill O’Rielly is a distraction, and not someone any true progressives should waste their time ridiculing. Like Limbaugh, he is all but irrelevant to anyone except the rest of the batshit crazy and stupid people who make sure he stays employed. Where are the blog entries hammering these bastards on the soon-to-be-a-debacle in Iran?
#13 - Please direct us to comments on this blog stating that progressives hate America. Oh, please keep in mind that BushCo does not equal America. Good luck with that.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:36 pmWhy does O’Liely have a picture of a dried up prune on the cover? Oh, never mind.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:36 pmUBL supports American progressives which of course explains why he murdered so many of them in very Democratic NYC.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:36 pmSilly Billy, tricks are for Rove.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:37 pmdid i miss something? why is secular a deragotory term? when did the United States of America get a national religion? are we a secular democracy? perhaps the national religion was a rider on the national language bill that was just passed. oh, that didn’t happen? hmmmm. looks like i’ve got a long weekend of looking over the constitution again. i prefer the bush co. version. not so many, whatta ya call em, words.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:37 pmStupid people shouldn’t write books.
O’reilly is a stupid people.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:40 pmif bill doesn’t agree with secular-progressive (i guess this is the new term, i say we embrace it and take all the wind fromits sails) does that make him a fundamentalist-regressive. sounds nice.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:42 pmDUH!
…and the point is?
…why wouldn’t anyone want to support those who believe:
…that all people deserve the right to live free and unencumbered of the yoke of tyranny and facism (unlike the “traditionalists”)…
…that truth and honesty are virtues their governments should aspire to adhere to…
…that trumped up wars for profit are criminal actions that require perpetrators of such criminal actions be held criminally liable…
…that WASP American lives are NO MORE SACROSANCT and precious than ANY OTHER lives…
…that focusing more on preserving mankind than destroying it is a worthy endeavor…
…and that ALL PERSONS are created equal in the scheme of creation…
among other things…
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:44 pm“The fact is that terrorists hate America because of events in the past they feel America has betrayed them or attacked them unfairly.”
The fact is that progressives hate America because of events in the past they feel America has betrayed them or attacked them unfairly? Well, them and everybody else.
“To point out these mistakes and lack of priorities is NOT hating America or blamign America first”
Correct, but too many progressives dislike and blame America anyway.
Has a progressive ever erred on the side of giving America too much benefit of doubt?
“It is always someone else’s fault and they are the poor victims of injustice.”
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Damn it’s great to hear that from a leftwinger! Now, just go and look in a mirror!
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“If anybody says I’m with the terrorists because I’m a liberal, I am going to knock them down and stomp their face until all their teeth fall out in a bloody puddle.”
Errr so you’re a terrorist? That’s at least extremely bullyish, if not terroristic.
(btw I think Al-Qaeda wants to have the Busheviks in power, even if Osama himself is long dead)
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“If we didn’t care about America, we wouldn’t be making so much noise.”
Duh, the charge is that you care about it in a negative way.
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“Please direct us to comments on this blog stating that progressives hate America.”
There are no comments “I hate America”, but there are plenty of sweeping comments “America is [some nasty thing]” all the damn time.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:45 pmI would love to see who deposits money into O’Reilly’s bank accounts.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:46 pmComedy gold!
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:47 pmRandom rightie, don’t visit me or you’ll end up in a bloody, toothy puddle.
You Reich Wingnuts are all fascists who want to destroy America by destroying the Constitution.
You are the real America-Haters. I love America. I just hate what you assholes are doing to it.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:48 pmS-P [secular-progressive] movement!! what dat?
I don’t think “clear thinking Americans” ever heard of it.
Isn’t Al Quaeda based on “religious” ideas??
Why would they ever align themselves with secular types!!!!!
Just more nonsensical rhetoric.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:49 pmCool! O’Dumbass has a new label ready for us S-P (Secular Progressive.)
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:49 pmHere’s my new label for him D-P-N (Dumbass Pervert Neocon)
O’Reilly in the hall of mirrors: “Both outfits believe that the United States of America is fundamentally a bad place.”
And thanks to O’Reilly, both he and they are right.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:51 pmI’m going to buy the book.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:53 pmUBL supports American progressives which of course explains why he murdered so many of them in very Democratic NYC.
Comment by Badmoodman
In reality, the world trade center was full of business professionals (you know, Republicans). The democrats were on the streets below prepping for lunchtime selling hotdogs (hehe)
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:55 pmWe should all file a class action lawsuit for defamation and slander.
;-)
Comment by Unholy+Moses
That was my first thought when I read this item. But then, if they allow us to file a lawsuit against him, he’ll be allowed to file a lawsuit against us for calling Fox News Channel anchors a bunch of lying, Bush-loving sacks of shit. Of course, the truth is a defense against libel…
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:55 pmRandom Rightie
I’ll repeat what I’ve posted before:
When I was raising my daughter, whom I love, I reprimanded, corrected, scolded, and punished her when she did something outside the moral parameters of our household. I did this out of LOVE, not hate.
When my country’s politicians do something through policies outside the moral parameters of the American values inherent in the Constitution, then I reserve the right and, actually obligation, to criticize, scold, correct, or punish those politicians. This I also do out of LOVE, not hate.
I am sick and tired of progressives being labeled America-haters when we are trying to PRESERVE its best features.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:56 pmSo, do I owe some dues to this Secular Progressive movement? I wasn’t aware that I joined up, but if O’Reilly says so, then it must be true. No spin and all that.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:56 pmAmerica’s Least Wanted
Oh Random Rightie, there is no hatred of America here. This country has a robust history of people speaking out about what is believed to be unjust activities by those in power. It is not a slam against America, rather it’s rejoicing in the freedoms we have that allow us to speak out. “I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it” is something vital to the continuation of this country.
Don’t be blinded. This administration has proven to be divisive (uniter not divider my ass), secretive and short sided. They are deserving of the ridicule thrown at them. That’s not hating America, that’s defending it’s core principles.
September 22nd, 2006 at 1:57 pmplease please please, could someone tell me why secular-progressive is a bad term. i can embrace that. i’m okay with it. it is about time democrats stop shrinking away from “democrat” “liberal” “progressive” or whatever term conservatives come up with. look up the definition for any of those terms, and i’m proud to be all of the above. i would jump for joy if, the next time the right says “they’re a bunch of liberals!”; the democratic party would say yes, and…? instead we get comebacks like “am not!” how friggin childish.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:01 pmTom3, you sound progressive.
“You Reich Wingnuts are all fascists who want to destroy America by destroying the Constitution.”
Ohh. Here I was, being exasperated at the rate at which liberties are being dismantled by the Federal Government, currently in the hands of the nominally rightwing faction of the one party, and I’m a fascist? Strange.
You wouldn’t, by any chance, be a myopic hater?
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:03 pmHe’s actually right because “Secular Progressive” = NeoCon.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:06 pmOlbermann had a lot of fun last night with Bill’s claim that he’s on an Al Queda death list.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:06 pmI’m not claiming that criticizing US policies means hating the country. But that’s not all you do.
Anyway, I don’t think I’ll be able to accomplish anything in this thread, so I’ll go away soon.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:08 pmDo I see this Right, Rightie? Are you defending a sexual deviate?
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:08 pmO’Liely is so full of self-importance. I seriously doubt that Al Qaeda would waste the bullet.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:10 pmbtw you folks could get more mileage out of O’Reilly’s evident paranoia if you tried.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:10 pmlittle known fact. i am also on obl’s death list. see? isn’t pretending to be relevant fun?!? obl could care less about bill. get over yourself bloviator.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:10 pmDouchebaggery!
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:12 pmWould Adams and Jefferson call themselves “traditionalists”? Or would they find secular progressivism attractive? Secular doesn’t mean atheist; it means of the world. Progress is exactly what they were making when they created the most robust democracy in human history. Did the founding fathers want the country to be governed according to the church? I don’t think so.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:14 pm#65
my point exactly. why does bill think secular-progressive is bad. is his alternative fundamental-regressive? i’ll take the former, thank you. does he pine for the good old days? like the dark ages?
nobody expects the spanish inquisition!
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:19 pmCulture Warrior ?? bwahahaaaaa, I think he means Falafel Warrior.
Don’t fall for the hate-bait, ‘Culture Warrior’ because that’s all they know how to do.
I guess Archie Bunker was a Culture Warrior too?
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:26 pmI’m not claiming that criticizing US policies means hating the country. But that’s not all you do.
Anyway, I don’t think I’ll be able to accomplish anything in this thread, so I’ll go away soon.
Comment by Random Rightie
No, we also criticize ridiculous comments like this. And, no, you won’t accomplish anything on this thread or anywhere else by making unsubstantiated accusations. Bye, now!
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:28 pmActually, O’Reilly has it all wrong. Bin Laden is laughing himself sick, not at the Liberals, but because he wants everybody to re-elect all of the Republicans who will support Bush’s policies even after he leaves office. Five years to have Bin Laden around still, its boggles the mind until you realize that (a) he is useful to Bush and vice versa, and (b) his group Al Qaeda may not be as big, as strong or as threatening as Bush makes him seem. Has anyone really determine if Al Qaeda has 300, 3000, or even 30000 adherents? I can’t find enough information about them that makes any sense whatsoever. So far, my conclusion is that Bush didn’t care about Bin Laden (FROM LA TIMES article by Maura Reynolds during a news conference at the White House on March 13, 2002, Bush said,†I truly am not that concerned about him,” according to the official White House transcript.) and likes to use him to scare people, ditto for Al Qaeda. To think, if Al Qaeda has even 3000 members worldwide, could that scare us? At any rate, if you don’t like people like O’Reilly and Bush, vote for a Democrat no matter how much he may affront you. In the long run the Democrats will turn out to be as bad as the Republicans, but right now we need to restore the balance.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:28 pmThe book title was a printing error…..Should be….Cilture Whoreing……by Bill O’lilie. infamious whore and Pimp for the radical right…….Blessings
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:29 pmI didn’t see my post come up either so this is a re-posting…
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:30 pmActually, O’Reilly has it all wrong. Bin Laden is laughing himself sick, not at the Liberals, but because he wants everybody to re-elect all of the Republicans who will support Bush’s policies even after he leaves office. Five years to have Bin Laden around still, its boggles the mind until you realize that (a) he is useful to Bush and vice versa, and (b) his group Al Qaeda may not be as big, as strong or as threatening as Bush makes him seem. Has anyone really determine if Al Qaeda has 300, 3000, or even 30000 adherents? I can’t find enough information about them that makes any sense whatsoever. So far, my conclusion is that Bush didn’t care about Bin Laden (FROM LA TIMES article by Maura Reynolds during a news conference at the White House on March 13, 2002, Bush said,†I truly am not that concerned about him,” according to the official White House transcript.) and likes to use him to scare people, ditto for Al Qaeda. To think, if Al Qaeda has even 3000 members worldwide, could that scare us? At any rate, if you don’t like people like O’Reilly and Bush, vote for a Democrat no matter how much he may affront you. In the long run the Democrats will turn out to be as bad as the Republicans, but right now we need to restore the balance.
You know what I would really like? Pundits no longer interviewing pundits (talk about preaching to the choir), interviewers interviewing other interviewers….
Is it me, or are these shows becoming too cosily incestuous?
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:30 pmBORe doesn’t care about secular-progressives he’s a Ratings Whore [Culture Warrior] hate baiter. Like a female version of Manne.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:31 pmhey guys what is with the (+). i must have missed something.
o’shit, get in the bunker sulfer is burning and it’s coming from faux news.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:33 pmHe looks like he just showed up to pick up the kids from his ex-wife for the weekend.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:34 pmWhat O’Reilly (and his ilk) fail to remember is that the United States was founded as a secular nation. Yet he uses the term as if it’s un-American to be secular. Simply put, he does not know what he’s talking about. Neither do his fans.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:34 pmO’Lielly’s book is obviously being marketed to come out on the heels of Ann Coulter’s book, just before the November election, to appeal to the same dimwitted readers. The message is clearly supposed to be that secular, progressive, and liberal are godless, therefore unAmerican, therefore bad, etc., etc. One would have to be an idiot to accept the premise.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:40 pmMy may lean conservative, but O’Reilly is crazy. It is true that the far left does at times go with the “Blame America” rhetoric, but OBL would never be “for” progressives. Hell, you guys are the anti OBL. This terrorists want a world ruled my one religon. YOu guys are against religon.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:41 pmit’s coming to a point that no matter what anyone says or how black the writing is on the white piece of paper, the nazis, zionists, are sociopaths. they are not folks of integrity, conviction, morals, values, social tolerance, economic tolerance. since they qwacks think that america is not waking up let’s see what november says. and let that speak to the neocons.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:44 pm#77
right on. hey bill, did you not have history in grade school? why didn’t his editor send this crap back to him?
“um…bill? turns out the United States is secular, so i’m not sure you’re thinking of the correct word. maybe you should lie down. ask rush for some pills, you’ll get a good night sleep and you can start your book all over again.”
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:44 pmIt seems the right wing nuts have nothing left to use to attack the left with. Now they have to make up this crap? What next? The Democrats killed Elvis?
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:47 pmI imagine Bill and Ann Coulter get together to count their money and laugh about how their clearly impaired audiences pay them to spout this crap.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:49 pm#79
i, for one, am not against religion. i am against government by religion. that’s backed up in textbooks even in schools where intelligent design is taught.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:49 pmWhy would Osama ever support the so-called “secular-progressives”? If you look at his ideology and compare it with the neo-con, born again, mega Jesus Freak Christian, Pat Robertson, let’s all fight the armageddon inducing holy-war ideology, they are right on par. Let’s see, who hates queers? Neo-Cons and Extremist muslims, check. Who supresses women? Neo-cons and Extremist muslims, check. Who believes there should be no separation of church and state? Neo-cons and Extremist Muslims, check. I think I see a trend here. O’Reilly is absolutely cracked-out.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:49 pmMr. O’Reilly is a complete nut job!
Not very insightful, but true.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:53 pmWhenever Democrats want our government to take responsibility when we err, Republicans try to smear Democrats with the “Blame America First” chant because Republicans refuse to take responsibility for anything. This has been going on for over a decade.
September 22nd, 2006 at 2:53 pmNo, Bill, progressives do not think the US is a bad place. We think the current administration (whose bile and vomit you clownishly and delightfully lap up) is MAKING the US a bad place and a bad actor on the global stage. I have no doubt that the pea-sized brain in your bulbous head cannot comprehend the clear distinction.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:02 pmHow dare he say that I hate America only because I disagree with him or the way things are being done. I love America, and I consider myself patriotic. I am just as American as he is. I don’t think America is an evil country and a fundamentally bad place, but I do think that there is room for improvement.
Maybe there are some “progressives” out to get him, not “al Qaeda”. It is all the same to him.
I may not agree with what you say, Bill, but I would fight for your right to say it. Would you do the same for me? Bill?
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:03 pmUnpatriotic progs / libs / Dems are finally being called out on their cowardice, and they just don’t like it.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:05 pm90….thank you for that perfect example of projection.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:07 pmfrom newshounds
“PS to BOR: If you really believe what you told Barbara Walters, that you specifically have been targeted by Al Queda, you have no business promoting your whereabouts in large audiences of innocent people. If you were really looking out for folks you wouldn’t urge them to come be targets with you; in fact, you’d go into hiding with soul-mate Dick Cheney.”
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:08 pm
i hate republicans and i hate Bill, not america. he thinks republicans and bushco = america and since hes a stupid, stupid man he easily confuses the two so i see how he made his mistake there.
but bill should watch jesus camp. thats who thinks america is evil and hates it. and funny, their thinking and “logic” conforms perfectly to their brothers in ideology — the secular progressive hating OBL and al qaeda.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:09 pmfrom newshounds
“PS to BOR: If you really believe what you told Barbara Walters, that you specifically have been targeted by Al Queda, you have no business promoting your whereabouts in large audiences of innocent people. If you were really looking out for folks you wouldn’t urge them to come be targets with you; in fact, you’d go into hiding with soul-mate Dick Cheney.”
sorry if this is a double post
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:10 pmWhen you wander in a bookstore, grab a couple of copies of Olbermann’s “Worst Person in the World” (or anoter good book) and put them on top of O’Really?’s book. This tiny act of resistance will make you feel a bit better and help to protect the public.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:11 pmNEWS FLASH Bill O’Reilly lies………….Also the sun is yellow (Jason’s favorite color)
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:12 pmI’m not a myopic hater. I have presbyopia.
Random Rightie bashes progressives and then tries to say he’s against the Chimpy regime.
You’re a lying sack of shit, Random Rightie…just like your hero the Chimp.
I bet you fantasize about fellating Chimpy’s tiny penis.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:13 pmSorry Jason, but post #90 all but made me repost this:
Don’t worry, no sane person would ever bother asking a liberal to defend their country, so you can stay safe in your flip-flops and bermuda shorts.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Now, I need you to explain to all the progs here that have served in the military, about not defending their country.
And a reminder that Jason is a 38 year old who supports the Iraqi war, but refuses to enlist!
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:18 pmI’m going to buy the book.
Comment by Kevin — September 22, 2006 @ 1:53 pm
Charmin is much,much softer.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:20 pmSounds like someone wants to block free speech
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:28 pmWe can all complain about The Republican Crime Syndicate and thier evil tactics. But, whats the game-plan of the Democrats?
1) Go on the offense!
2) Tell it like it is(keeping it real)!
3) UNITY
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:29 pmIt seems the right wing nuts have nothing left to use to attack the left with. Now they have to make up this crap? What next? The Democrats killed Elvis?
Comment by Colorado+Jyms — September 22, 2006 @ 2:47 pm
Elvis is dead???????????????
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:31 pmI heard he was spotted in a cave with bin Laden, singing ‘Suspicous Minds’.
Unpatriotic progs / libs / Dems are finally being called out on their cowardice, and they just don’t like it.
Comment by Jason+M.+Hendler — September 22, 2006 @ 3:05 pm
anything to back up the “unpatriotic” characterization, or just shooting your mouth off.
next time just say, “progs / libs / Dems who i don’t agree with are being called out by someone i look up to, and i like it.” hey, if you like what he has to say, by all means buy the book. i don’t see why you feel the need to come here and throw that crap out so that someone will bite and you can entertain yourself with liberal baiting for the next hour.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:33 pm#98 I’d be very interested in hearing Jason’s explaination. Well Jason, Man up.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:34 pmHey, Jason+M.+Hendler!
Why did you “cut & run” from my challenge that you call for the network broadcast of the Pres. Reagan film?
If you think that Progs wanting the lies cut from the mendacious “Path to 9/11″ film was anti-free speech, then you should be FOR the network broadcast of the Pres. Reagan film!!!
I guess it’s only unpatriotic Cons & regressives that support “free speech” for anti-Prog films and then fight against “free speech” in every other circumstance.
I bet you’re proud of your flip-flops, eh Jason?!?!
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:34 pmFortunately, even middle America is starting to see through this propaganda hate speech. The big lie tactic is not working anymore.
It is going to get very nasty this election. The GOP knows they are in huge trouble if they lose and the Dems start subpoenaing them. A lot of them could go to jail.
So the Republinazis will pull out all the stops this time, accusing Dems of anything, including starting the KKK. The Dems need to stand up to this and call the GOP on it, because it can backfire on the GOP.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:35 pm“Sounds like someone wants to block free speech”
Slander and libel are not protected forms of speech. That’s why it’s permissible to sue someone who says false things about you to the detriment of your reputation.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:38 pmculture chickenhawk is more like it, but creepy clown is the most apt name for that book
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:40 pm#105 Dem Soldier - I think that ‘Cut and Run’ is a trademarked phrase. Just like Freedom(tm) and Democracy(tm). I hate to see you sued.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:47 pmI am a liberal because I believe in Liberty.
If I want it for myself, I must be willing to grant it to others, even if they insist on making fools of themselves in the process. No legislation or public policy will cure stupidity, regardless of how mindless the the attempts to use of such terms as “conservative”, “liberal”, or coining ever more goofy ones, such as, “secular-progressives”, “islamo-fascists”, etc., as epithets.
It seems to me that, these days, the Republican party and its acolytes are 1) busy trying to take way the rights of others to express themselves, or 2) using thier media empires, where possible, to diminish the effectiveness of such expression, or when that hasn’t been possible, 3) endlessly whining about those who would use such rights to disagree with them.
None of these approaches has much moral merit and one could truthfully say, in too many instances, that they have resorted in these efforts to “bearing false witness”. O’Reilly’s most recent blather is yet another excellent example of this.
The current Republican Sect of Holier-Than-Thou Religous Dogma and its High Priest, Karl Rove and his paid army of talking heads and political operatives try mightly to push the teachings given to Moses by God and the teachings of Jesus aside, instead to persuade true Christians that bearing false witness in the name of the Republican Party is not a violation of God’s commandments. Unfortunately, for them God will yet prove he disagrees with them and they shall eventually find themselves burning in Hell.
Perhaps God is still annoyed that Republicans had the presumptuousness to add an 11th commandment to the 10 already there, as though they actually thought that God actually needed their help. Ironically, their 11th commandment, “Thou shall not say ill of another Republican” implicitly acknowleges that they are not true Christians, because they they don’t really believe in the commandment not “to bear false witness”. Instead, for them bending the truth is acceptable. They often refuse to speak ill of their fellow Republicans even though many are on their way to jail for bribery and doing the bidding of the rich at the expense of the poor in direct contradiction to the teachings of Jesus. Instead, they believe if it suits there political advantage, then they should lie and distort, even though the truth would compel true Christians to choose not to do so. They know not of what it means to Love thy Neighbor. Rather, ironically again, despite their oft-professed belief in “intelligent design”, they see it in their interest to instead act in accordance to Darwininan theory, namely in their own self-interest.
Their fate will be much worse than any political scars they may bear after the upcoming elections. The only real question at this point, is just how many true Christians will vote for Republicans, so that they may continue to bear such false witness and further errode the foundations of Christianity, thereby forever condemning their own souls in the process.
So called “Secular-progressives” should not condemn these people, rather they should, at this time, take a moment’s reflection, cross over the mythical cultural divide, and pray for them. Their’s will not be a pleasant fate. I believe that there is no need for me to ridicule them further, because they do such a good job of it themselves.
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:50 pmGee, Osama didn’t call me this morning and leave his usual inspirational message. Maybe he’s frightened of Bill O’Reilly. Oh well, I’ll just put on my little ’support Osama Bin Laden’ t-shirt and go canvass the neighborhood again for American Progressives who hate America. All this terrorist supporting is HARD WORK! I’ll bet it’s harder than clearing brush!
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:55 pmLet’s have a naming contest for the book
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:57 pmI’ll call it “fling it all and let’s see what sticks”
September 22nd, 2006 at 3:57 pm#113 “Falafel Warrior”
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:04 pmOsama is the gay lover boy of O’Reilly > lol.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:04 pm#112 “Culture Wanker”
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:14 pm#112 I like what Al Franken used as a joke title for O’Reilly’s book, whose full title he said was: “Living with Herpes in George W. Bush’s America”.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:15 pm“The phone sex fighter”
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:16 pm#113 Oh here we go:
“A Fistful of Falafel”
“For a Few Falafel More”
“Enter the Falafel”
“Crouching Intern, Hidden Falafel”
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:16 pm“Dribbles from a Talking Head”.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:17 pmAs O’RiledUp’s ratings plummet, he pulls out all the Ann Coulter tried and true strategies of writing books that are no more than hate filled rants.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:19 pmThe more crazy shit he writes and says, the more attention he gets.
Ann has proven that this strategy will at least getcha a little face time.
Bill the Shill is on the downhill slide to O’blivion.
Osama and Al Queda need right wing nuts to help them drumb up war so they can maniipulate their people for their own reasons Just as the neocons
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:19 pmneed Al Queda and Osama to engage in a war for profit for the few at a cost to the many. Both sides need an enemy to rally their people to war in order to
manipulate and cortrol them for their own personal gain and reasons. O’reilly is just another media whore looking for ratings, a big pay check and to feed his ego. If he were fair and balanced he would miss the controversy
that gets his so much needed atension. He gets off on all the negative reaction. Its better than being ignored. If you can keep the populous overwhelmed with distractions they dont see who is getting all their money.
“Kulture Klubbing”
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:20 pm“Pills, Platitudes and Pain, the history of Talking Heads in America.”
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:20 pm#113 I really shouldn’t let myself get caught up in this fun:
“Me Penis, My Head”
“Call Me Irresponsible” (may have been taken)
“Blank Like Me”
“My Blood is Red, My Skin is White, My Jacket is Blue”
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:22 pm“No Spine Zone”
“The Good, the bad and the O’Reilly”
“Everything you wanted to know about phone sex but were afraid to ask”
This is fun
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:23 pm” Bushit Through The Ages. ” or…………………………………………………..
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:27 pm” How the flat world was inflated by Science, deflated by Bush, and folded in half by the Christian Zionists.”
Osama bin Laden support President Bush because Bush let him get away with murder 3,000 times.
Bush claims to be tough, but he’s a wimp who goes after a washed up toothless dictator—Hussein—while effectively pardoning the guy who attacked us—bin Laden.
“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
So far, Bush’s failure to get bin Laden (and from his own statements, he isn’t even trying) has run 1835 days since he made that lying statement.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:29 pm“Rants, Ravings and the Religious Right”
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:29 pm“Spin until you drop”
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:30 pm“Why I declared war on Petri dishes”
#113 Still having fun…
“Venereal Disease Treatments That Worked For Me”
“I Can’t Believe They Pay Me To Say This Crap”
“Overcoming Codpiece Envy”
Have a good weekend everyone.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:36 pmWow,
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:36 pmDid I walk into the belly of the beast. I’ll admit there are some on here that make rational, articulate arguments for your point of view but in reading through the posts most of them are ad hominym, hate filled invective. People see the Democrat party represented by the ones that are so far to the left and so filled with rage that they do not want to be represented by Democrats. I don’t believe in everything Bush does, far from it, but I would much rather he and his party represented me.
The main things blocking progress are progressives
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:38 pmOBL is the Yin to GW’s Yang. They need each other like Limbaugh needs paper to ruffle, like Cheney needs a beer and a gun.
“The lease American Hero”
just can’t stop myself now.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:40 pm#106 - nothing new here, Republicans were the party of lies and deceit in the 1870’s also. They told the newly freed and enfranchised black voters that there were two political parties mentioned in the Bible - the Publicans and the Sinners. They were counting on the new voters’ being unable to distinguish “publican” (tavern-keeper) and Republican - and it worked, for a while.
The Democratic Party of today is, by contrast, nearly the opposite of the Democratic Party even fifty years ago. And most of those who were the worst Sinners “saw the light” and joined the Republicans so they could continue being bigoted, intolerant, greedy and oppressive.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:45 pmCondor, my problem with your statement is that you posit that, “People see the Democrat party represented by the ones that are so far to the left and so filled with rage that they do not want to be represented by Democrats.” i do not know which people you are referring, so i cannot comment on the veracity of that statement. but it is disingenuous to gloss over the fact that the republican party also has a far-right side with plenty of rage to go around.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:45 pmBill O’Reilly: Culture Jackass
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:47 pm#132 - well you didn’t pick a good thread, Condor. BOR calls most of the people on this site traitors or terrorist sympathizers almost daily - let’s just say that gets a few peoples’ blood up. Although the tailend of it has degenerated into a top ten list for BOR’s book, so now it’s silly fun. BOR sets himself up for it.
Try the education thread and join the debate…less bloodlust over there.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:47 pmThe main things blocking progress are progressives
Comment by Condor84 — September 22, 2006 @ 4:38 pm
examples please? or is this just some “ad hominym” you commented on earlier.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:48 pm#132 You would rather have Bush represent you? The man who said the Constitution is just a “Goddamned piece of paper”. The Man who said “let doctors practice their love with their patients” (one of my favorites). don’t forget “Heck of a job Brownie”.
The above ramblings were a little Friday’s steam release. If you think this is the belly of the beast go read the blogs at RedState and see how they treat differing views.
Bring some logic with your viewpoint and it’s debated here. Bring snippy little talking points and …………..
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:48 pmIf you don’t like O’Reilly, don’t buy the book and don’t watch the show.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:48 pmAnd this is different from Hate speech how?
Comment by TheToonGuy — September 22, 2006 @ 12:53 pm
Because it is correct
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:50 pmSince NeoCons will say anything and do anything if they can make a dime by doing so, this book should surprise no one.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:50 pmCIA: Osama Helped Bush in ‘04
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/070306.html
_____________
“In fact, Rice overlooked al-Qaeda in every public speech she made between Jan. 20, 2001, and Sept. 11, 2001, a Nexis search reveals. Even stretching all the way back to early 1993, when the World Trade Center was first hit, Rice mentions al-Qaeda not a single time in any speech, article or media interview.
By comparison, she cites Iraq more than 1,000 times from 1993 to 2001.”
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:54 pmhttp://www.antiwar.com/sperry/?articleid=9705
“A Few Good Falafels”
“May the Falafel be With You”
“A Falafel Too Far”
“The Longest Falafel”
yeah, all right - the theme is wearing out.
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:54 pmAnd what is wrong with having a little fun at Billy’s expense?
September 22nd, 2006 at 4:54 pmLighten up, or light ‘em up, as the case may be!
Bill O’Reilly:
September 22nd, 2006 at 5:05 pm“How to Turn Your Failing Journalism Career Around by Becoming a Cowardly, Right-Wing GOP Hack”
Includes topics such as:
1) How to lie and feel good about it
2) When to time your “sex-scandal”
3) How to give the “reach-around” while wearing a suit
and of course, the ever popular:
4) Getting rich off the poor: The GOP advantage explained
#141 I don’t and neither do you Kevin. Media Matters read it and you can read their take…..if you are brave enough to open your mind on Falafel Bill.
September 22nd, 2006 at 5:08 pm“Windbreaker Shopping For Dummies”
September 22nd, 2006 at 5:11 pmHmm, let’s see.
1. Keep women subordinate to men.
2. Eradicate homosexuality.
3. Everyone should be the same religion.
4. The law of the land should reflect that religion.
5. Censor sex out of all media.
6. Justify the deaths of innocent people in other countries because of their support of acts of war.
Let’s see, I’m trying to think of some more things that Osama and the Religious Right in this country have in common.
I can’t really think of much that Osama et al. have in common with the American “secular progressives.”
Yeah, Osama, he’s one secular progressing all right.
Gimme a break.
September 22nd, 2006 at 5:19 pmThe people who say that the left plays the blame America game are plain wrong. What I get out of that argument is that those who put it forth are absolutely intolerant of examining the cause and effect of past actions by our government. If OBL says he bombed NY on 911 because our troops are in their holy land and a dem points that out, the Limbaughites of the world claim that we are playing a blame America game. They refuse to look at actual cause and effect. If we say the enemy says our unabashed support of Israel is the cause for their violence, we are playing the blame America game, and they once again refuse to examine the record to see what we have done and how it has been perceived. The argument makes not one bit of sense. O’Riley and his ilk do nothing more than perpetuate this fairy tale. I call it a fairy tale because they offer no attempts to actually do a little introspection.
I also see phrase about the angry left, yet I hear very little about the angry right. Hmm, very interesting. The angry left as presented is a fictional entity. The right thinks that anyone who wants checks and balances is irrational angry lefty. They think that anyone who wants the constitution to survive is an irrational angry lefty. They think that anyone who points out corruption is an out of touch irrational angry lefty. Yet when commentators from the right call for SC justices to be assassinated, all is silent from their quarters. When an angry right wing commentator calls for President Clinton or Carter to be assassinated, there is no talk of angry right wingers. When a federal building in OK City is blown up by an angry right winger there is very little mention of the angry right and what it has spawned. Heck here we are in a thread about Bill ORIely one of the most irrationally angry men in the US. Talk of the angry left is plain wrong. While it is true that many on the left are angry, they are not angry for irrational reasons. We are watching the country we love being taken apart at the seams by people who do not value it as much as we do. People who feel that getting their way is more important than doing the right thing. People who feel that the constitution, which is America by the way, is less important than their view of the world. People who feel that political gain is more important than actually running the country.
September 22nd, 2006 at 5:20 pmI will be getting the book and I love the show. Bill does not get a free ride to anyone. If someone makes a good point on his show (even if he does not agree with it) he does not call them names and ridicules them. He admits it’s a good point and tries to counter the point. I don’t agree with Bill all the time but he is a stand up guy.
I’m sure I’m going to be called everything from evil and racist to stupid and idiotic. But you folks hate anyone that does not agree with you 100%. And that is the biggest problem I have with “progressives.â€
September 22nd, 2006 at 5:30 pmWell put Mark.
September 22nd, 2006 at 5:31 pmI never understood why ‘liberals’ never turn the tables on ‘conservatives” arguments that are based on “liberals hate america because…”
Whenever liberals point out something that they don’t agree with, they are accused of hating America. Why can’t liberals, for the sake of pointing out how stupid this is, do it too?
“Abortion is murder.”
>Well, you just hate America. America is a country where women have the ‘right to chose.’ You hate living in America don’t you?
“There should be prayer in schools.”
>Well, America is a country where kids aren’t forced to pray in schools. You must hate that. You must hate this country.
“The EPA should dismantled.”
>Why do you hate a country that protects its environment, natural resources, and wildlife habitats? Please, stop with your America hating nonsense.
“Social security should be eradicated.”
>America is a place that cares about its elderly and handicapped people. Why do you hate America?
It’s that simple. I wish that more people would do it. Soon it would become even more absurd than it is. Then it would stop.
September 22nd, 2006 at 5:32 pmKevin, I do not hate those who don’t agree with me. I’m just at a loss as to why Bill is so dead set against “secular-progressives.” What’s wrong with being secular or progressive? Isn’t that the way our founders intended this country to be? Why should “all clear thinking Americans” join in the fight against “secular-progressives?”
(where did secular-progressive come from. that’s a new label to me)
September 22nd, 2006 at 5:40 pm“Mein Falafel”
“O’Reilly’s Falafel for Kids”
“Who’s Looking Out For My Falafel”
“Falafels Who Trespass”
“Culture? That’s for fags.”
BTW - it is physically impossible for the falafel meme to be played out. It just can’t happen.
September 22nd, 2006 at 5:40 pmWow, Kevin. You say you DO watch the show? No, it’s called “The O’Reilly Factor.” You must be watching “Deal or No Deal.”
September 22nd, 2006 at 5:42 pm